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Scuffers 99 points ago +99 / -0

Yes, he ran after a minor with an illegal hand gun, and was about to shot him in the head.

so, attempted murder, illegal possession of a firearm, carrying a concealed firearm at the least.

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supermagafragilistic 17 points ago +17 / -0

While I'm disinclined to be in favor of charging someone with an expired concealed weapon permit, I don't believe CCWs are necessary, if you can legally own a firearm, you should be able to legally carry it period, but in this case I'd make an exception.

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Madnote1984 19 points ago +19 / -0

I absolutely agree, and if THAT were his only crime, I would never want him charged. BUT, since he was trying to murder someone, he should have the FULL book thrown at him, just like they tried to do to Kyle. BS weapons charges and all....

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ShanghaiJoe 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ohhh, but did he cross state lines though ????? That's the real question.

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Scuffers 2 points ago +2 / -0

LOL!

you just know all this state line bullshit is so they can get the fed's involved.

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Pinochet_Was_Right 60 points ago +60 / -0

Don't forget 'Jump Kick Man', who they knew

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TruthyBrat 7 points ago +7 / -0

Also the AntiFa puke who was egging on the mob to riot and fired the shots as Rosenbaum was running at KR. Zamaris or something like that.

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clownworld30330 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ziminsky.

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TitsOnAFish 3 points ago +3 / -0

*Agent Ziminski

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deleted 3 points ago +4 / -1
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clownworld30330 2 points ago +2 / -0

A bit dumber than usual for an agent.

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patriot71 19 points ago +20 / -1

he may be dead. Apparently, found unresponsive in his home.

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Knowbody 20 points ago +20 / -0

Probably fake. Need confirmation.

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Atlantapede 12 points ago +12 / -0

drunk and passed out

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deleted 7 points ago +7 / -0
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IlhanOmarsFagBrother 6 points ago +6 / -0

Got the GRID

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mygovisacommie 2 points ago +2 / -0

More likely just really high on heroin

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yahweh 8 points ago +8 / -0

fake news.

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Sdhoppy71 4 points ago +4 / -0

Where was Hillary at that time?

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deleted 4 points ago +4 / -0
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Atlantapede 16 points ago +16 / -0

AND Joshua Zeminski for conspiracy of murder

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TruthyBrat 5 points ago +6 / -1

And inciting a riot.

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My2Cents 1 point ago +1 / -0

Never heard why Zeminski was never called to testify. Someone here must know.

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LiteraIIyHitIer 4 points ago +4 / -0

Because he's a fucking Fed.

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refresco 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because he's a strung out criminal piece of shit, maybe?

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GeneralVeers 12 points ago +13 / -1

Also he should be charged for armed robbery----

Wait.

/facepalm

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masterfulsky 5 points ago +5 / -0

unarmed armed robbery

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PrezElectHamsandwich 1 point ago +1 / -0

They called him “the one-armed bandit”

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OccasionalCortex21 10 points ago +10 / -0

https://old.reddit.com/user/find_your_line

Grosskreutz reddit account

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orangemanwins202020 1 point ago +1 / -0

how did you find this? how do you know its him?

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PM_ME_UR_MAGIC_CARDS 1 point ago +2 / -1

He shared his CCW license. It's legit him.

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orangemanwins202020 1 point ago +1 / -0

thank you

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Tcrlaf1 9 points ago +9 / -0

I am thinking they gave the ACTUAL ATTEMPTED MURDERER total immunity to testify against the guy they were trying to railroad due to politics.

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GabeC1997 2 points ago +2 / -0

Which is total bullshit that should be ignored.

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D-Dub 8 points ago +8 / -0

Someone could correct me if I am wrong but Kyle and his family could sue them in civil court if the cucks in Kenosha prosecutor office don't man up.

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orcwordlaugh 1 point ago +1 / -0

I hope this is the case, especially if the city pays out to Byecep Man in his civil case. The salt if Kyle took it all from him.

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FamburgerHelper 7 points ago +7 / -0

And Drop-Kick Guy too.

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Id10tech 6 points ago +6 / -0

Amen! Was thinking the same thing at the verdict.

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A_Colostomy_Bag 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes!!! Offense, offense, offense!

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Redpill-notCommieRed 4 points ago +4 / -0

Will flufferboy prosecute?

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c_programmer 4 points ago +4 / -0

I see a clear case for attempted murder and felony murder since he was part of a group committing a felony that caused the death of Huber. Jump kick man should get the same, aggravated battery and felony murder.

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spezisapedo2 2 points ago +2 / -0

I could actually see that, although personally id rather Kyle take the complete win, and move on with his life. Id hate to have a jury declare Gaige 'innocent' too just muddying the waters.

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TheDonWon 4 points ago +4 / -0

I’d like to see a gif of his raptor hand sprinkling salt

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xBigCoffinHunter 3 points ago +3 / -0

His civil case isn’t looking so hot

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preferredfault [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh no it's gone completely. Not guilty nullifies any claim he had, and that's before you even consider that he lied in the lawsuit by not mentioning he was armed. Good shoot, no lawsuit. Otherwise Kyle has even more of a claim than he does on the same grounds, so if they give him 10 mil, they'd also have to give Kyle 10 mil or more.

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Train_w_no_brakes 2 points ago +2 / -0

Was just thinking this. It’ll never happen tho

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SendCCPToHell 2 points ago +2 / -0

Guilty of biological terrorism. Lord knows what was in his blood as he sprayed it everywhere.

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honkskillet 2 points ago +2 / -0

And jump kick man be arrested for assault.

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that_sound 2 points ago +2 / -0

Assault AND BATTERY! with a dangerous/deadly weapon. His shod foot.

In Wisconsin, a threat of violence is assault. If contact is made, it's also battery.

Any physical harm done to the victim qualifies it as misdemeanor battery. If serious bodily harm occurred, it could be felony battery. There are 2 types of felony battery: substantial battery if the harm is substantial (example: concussion), and aggravated battery if there is great bodily harm - long lasting effects, permanent impairment, risk of death.

It was reported that Kyle was vomiting after the attack. Why? Nerves or concussion? How long after the attack? Long lasting effects? Permanent impairment?

Dude kicked someone in the head. The State knows who he is. If he is not prosecuted for substantial felony assault and battery minimum, the conclusion is obvious.

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bitpusher 1 point ago +2 / -1

So true!

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FreeFlorida 1 point ago +1 / -0

hes on suicide watch

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pray4peace4 1 point ago +1 / -0

File a complaint with the Wisconsin State Attorney General against the city DA failing to apply the law equally. Only a Wisconsin citizen can do this.

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RECO1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

Someone start a Petition lets make this Happen!!

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reallyrural 1 point ago +1 / -0

God damm Right

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watamellon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah let's not worry about a weapons charge. Not the issue here and making it one weakens the 2a. What should be of concern is the attempted murder.

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TheMadManDidItAgain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not attempted murder, he would be found not guilty...

However, aggravated assault, yes.

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MexBrodie73 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fucking A Right

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starboard 1 point ago +1 / -0

And hopefully there go GG’s hopes of ever winning his lawsuit and never having to work again.

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TeeRoyAL 1 point ago +1 / -0

the same state prosecution would get a win for sure, and this one rightfully so

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DemonkkkRatSlavers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hung first, trial afterwards.

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Gnometard 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah!

The communists need to arrest their communist tools to give us patriots vindication!

Oh wait.... The entire last 10 fucking years show why that won't happen.

Welcome back from your coma, you're gonna be really surprised at how the world has turned out if you still think crimnals get arrested!

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SupaMegaBen 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not a fan of GK, but if you look at his earlier comments, he honestly sounded fairly reasonable. I think the leftist mentality really got to him and has him lying to the media now.

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__I_dindu__nufin_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah he's not going to get arrested.

He'll probably be suicided.

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Boruzu 1 point ago +1 / -0

TROOTH. Will this even happen?!?!

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peltast 0 points ago +1 / -1

Letting him not be indicted is White Privilege.

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Bigbadchows -2 points ago +4 / -6

Wont ever succeed as he has stated he was attempting to stop a person that shot another person. We also do not want people charged for attempting to stop a violent criminal. But he should be charged with a gun violation. Since that is not disputable.

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preferredfault [S] 12 points ago +12 / -0

When he pretended to give up and then tried to shoot Kyle, that nullifies any self defense claims Grosskreutz could have had. So even in that scenario, Kyle would immediately regain self defense rights, while Gaige would lose them. At that point, it doesn't matter what Grosskreutz pretends to believe.

Even when we're talking about citizens arrest...trying to kill someone who exercised restraint when you fake surrendered, would again nullify the attempt at citizen arrest. And he clearly wasn't trying to perform a citizens arrest, because he was trying to shoot Kyle. It would fall back to self defense law, which Grosskreutz relinquished when he pretended to surrender.

Keep in mind, he chased down Kyle. It's not like Kyle sat next to him on a bus and he recognized him and tried to perform a citizens arrest. He also pulled a gun before Kyle even fell to the ground and was attacked, before Kyle had to kill skateboard guy.

Even hearing that someone shot someone, can't possibly justify his behavior. Shooting someone isn't inherently criminal. No one even yelled anything but that Kyle shot someone. So you can't assert you were performing a "citizens arrest" against someone, when you are unaware of the criminality or legality of the shooting. No one yelled "He killed a guy in cold blood!". That would be an excuse that would work. But "He shot that guy!", isn't enough to say you have the right to believe you were going after a criminal who just committed a crime, and certainly not enough to attack them.

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kjj9 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't like it, but apparently the standard used by the Kenosha prosecutor's office is that the jury should decide. If they are going to be consistent, they should bring charges.

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Bigbadchows 1 point ago +2 / -1

Not saying self defense, he had no self defense claim. For Grosskreutz you need to know what his state of mind was. Not saying one arm is not guilty just saying you could never convict.

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preferredfault [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

What I'm contending is you can convict on that. To first claim you have a right to perform a citizens arrest, you must first have some idea of the criminality of what they did. Hearing someone yell "He shot that guy!", is not enough to infer the criminality. Therefore he does not have any rightful claim to performing a citizens arrest or anything similar.

Picture this scenario: A guy walks out of a store, and when he's half way down the block, the store owner runs out of the store and says "Stop that guy!". He's walking past you, you think he's a thief, you tackle him and he hits his head and dies from the fall. Except, the reason they yelled stop that guy is because he left his wallet in the store and the store owner wanted to return it to him.

Now do you think you won't get charged with involuntary manslaughter? You'd likely be convicted, because the argument will be that you had no idea of whether that guy was a criminal at all, you merely acted on the words of another person, which weren't even that descriptive. It involves you ASSUMING there is criminality, when there is no words pointing to such. That would make your actions ultimately unreasonable.

The same applies here. Again, they didn't yell "Hey he murdered that guy in cold blood!". It was just "He shot a guy!". It's on THEM for inferring criminality, since there is nothing criminal about defending yourself. Therefore they acted on a lack of information, therefore they don't have those protections. They can't say they thought they were chasing a criminal, when the information they were given by yelling crowds was not describing criminality at all, but rather just an event that took place.

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clownworld30330 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's more of a case against Grosskreutz than there was against Kyle.

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