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DebunkTheLeft 330 points ago +335 / -5

The problem is, this is happening on a global scale.

This generation of woketards will usher in the greatest, most horrifying loss of history and knowledge since the burning of the Library of Alexandria.

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UsernameChexOut 112 points ago +117 / -5

I think this is a little bit more nuanced than we either give a shit about it or we do not. There is an area in between. I think to a certain extent, you are both right, and wrong at the same time.

I don't think we need to invade Paris to fix this. Notre Dame wokeness isn't directly gonna impact my price of gas, but we also can't be ignorant about the fact that this commie shit originated in French and German universities. While I don't really give much of a shit about some building across the ocean, we do however have an interest in not having a breeding ground for woke commie garbage to grow and spread from. So yeah, I agree, we have more pressing shit to deal with. But it also doesn't mean that we shouldn't care at all. We need to speak out about this, we need to raise awareness, and we need to support our French pedes that are also working to get their country back.

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Threaper666 20 points ago +22 / -2

Didn't the Age of Reason and most of the ideas that inspired America come out of the same region? America is the Zenith of Western Culture. But will Tumble like the tower of Babylon if it isn't cherished and protected.

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UsernameChexOut 28 points ago +28 / -0

Precisely, and that's why I think this is important. We're not talking about protecting some random bush in the middle of Africa. This was the backbone of western culture. We should give a shit about it.

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Threaper666 15 points ago +15 / -0

It would be like planting a Pride Flag on the Square thing in Mecca. Might as well bulldoze Stone Hinge.

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Snooptwo -10 points ago +2 / -12

Id say planting a pride flag on Mecca would be funny, but seeing how the Christians here have hijacked the narrative of our movement to force a blatantly bigoted and hateful anti gay stance (I use those words carefully, knowing how the left has distorted them) I think it would be just as funny to plant a pride flag in any one of your churches to watch you weak fairy faux Christians have a little bitch fit. The right isn’t the Christian Right of the 80s anymore. It’s punk. It says fuck you to the establishment, and that includes your mega churches and Roman Catholicism and the rest of the fag bashing haters and losers that have become the mouthpiece for Christianity in this movement.

get triggered faggots

Spez: downvotes but no rebuttal. Why are Christians so low IQ and weak these days? Can’t even defend your shit religion or your evil demonic god. When I was a Christian, I’d defend my god. I love debating about it. We studied apologetics at my school and I loved using those tools to defend my religion. But now? Pretty sure y’all are just mindlessly following your pastors. So many with such an elementary view and approach to the Bible. Between that and the outright blatant hatred for others, it’s hard to take y’all seriously as Christians. You sure as fuck don’t act like Christians, don’t treat others the way Christians I know treat others. I was so close to coming around to going to church again, but y’all reminded me why I left. Thank you for that. As always, it’s Christians, not Christianity that is the problem. Fuck you and fuck your demonic hateful god.

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UsernameChexOut 27 points ago +30 / -3

I don't think we have the financial or military support to spare of course. But I think we can do better than thoughts and prayers.

We need to see the reality clearly that in 2021, we live in a global world and unfortunately it's a global battle.

I'm not gonna pretend to know everything, but there are certainly ways that we can help.

As I mentioned, it's a global effort and strategies and organization also needs to be on a global scale. Back before 1/6, a French pede posted here the lessons that they learned from the yellow vests protests. It was a very good, very insightful list of tactics, strategies and general knowledge. I think that's one example of how we can help. The intelligence gathering and sharing needs to be global.

That's more along the lines of what I think of as "support".

But you know, also even knowing that you are not alone in this helps. Look how many stories you see here of people finding the strength to resists vaxx mandates, or shitty family members just by knowing that there are others out there like them resisting. The globalist playbook is out. We know that they want to isolate us. They want us feeling like we're alone and crazy. But we're not alone, and we're not crazy. It might not be much, but knowing that there are people out there that support you and care for you can hopefully give people some strength to get through the dark times.

I hope this explains what I mean more clearly.

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UsernameChexOut 34 points ago +38 / -4

While the venting and shitposting is of the highest quality here, I think this place is more than that.

What I personally find best about this place are all the different news sources that none of us could go through individually. I know more about shit because of this place.

The memes here are a giant red pill dispensary to be liberally handed out to everyone in your life.

And clearly, some people are finding support here that they are not getting in their everyday lives.

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DickTick 6 points ago +8 / -2

Where did they claim that shitposting here was all that was needed to change something?

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Snooptwo -2 points ago +5 / -7

We can always do better than thoughts and prayers. The Christians here love to post their versus, or their prayers, or whatever to show everyone what a good Christian they are. They’re Pharisees as far as I’m concerned. Jesus was very clear about praying in private. It’s a conversation with your god, right? A personal one, where you are thanking god for his mercy, asking for forgiveness for your sins, snd sending messages about your loved ones. Sounds great. Absolutely no reason to do it publicly unless you’re trying to show off, just like the Pharisees. Yet I see those cheesy ass cringe comments from you people on a daily basis.

I held it in for a long time, but the Jesus Freaks are starting to get out of hand. There was multiple threads attacking Richard Garnell because he’s gay. Like what the fuck? Do you think any sane person gives a fuck about archaic laws some camel fucking Jews wrote 3000 years ago? Of course not. It’s retarded. And ive been trying to come back around to the church because there’s a lot I like, I grew up in the church and in a Lutheran school from 3-18 years old. But these Christians here are just fuckin gay dude. They’ve completely pushed me away from Christianity, maybe forever. With their gay sappy versus and their gay prayers snd their gay obsession with where men put their dicks, to the point that they want to excommunicate a man who has fought tirelessly for our movement because they don’t approve of his sex life. Fuuuuck you. If you’re right, pretty sure god will look at what I’ve said snd done and let me in before many of you CINOs that don’t live up to any of the tenants of love and compassion that their dogma demands.

So I’m done with Christianity snd Christians in general for a while. I think this movement would be way better off without the Puritan faggots that contribute nothing of value to the MAGA movement.

And for u Christians who will get your little virgin panties in a wad and downvote, please respond! I want to know why you think your god is a loving god despite Romans 9 clearly stating that he creates people for the explicit purpose of distraction! I can’t imagine any loving god condemning a child to hell before its born, because going to hell is their entire purpose. Why even create them then? What about free will?

Your thoughts and prayers do fuck all. I’ll take Garnell and Milo over you fuckers any day of the week, especially Sunday.

Spez: no response about Romans 9? Ok. Do you knowingly follow a god who condemns innocent children to hell. Noted. Please fuck off. Whatever god you follow is a demon.

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fezg 7 points ago +7 / -0

Do you not see how Christianity is a threat to the NWO? So much so that they’re desecrating the most famous church on the planet to neutralize that threat?

Morality is what is lacking in our nation’s leaders and in this world or we wouldn’t have so much corruption and blatant evil going on.

Me, or anyone pointing that out means I’m a self righteous Pharisee? Your comment shows you have no idea what Christianity or Jesus is about. Christianity is about admitting we’re all fallible and sinners, which is why we need Jesus. It’s about humbling yourself and admitting you make mistakes and you’re wrong. It’s not about boasting or pretending to be better than anyone. I don’t know what kind of church you grew up in, but unfortunately, they failed to preach the Gospel to you, which is the most basic function of a church.

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79WillardCptn 3 points ago +3 / -0

What's better than prayers. Explain what it is that makes you all knowing.

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Shezestriakis 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't know about the babies, but I know where you're going...

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Paul_Revere -2 points ago +1 / -3

"I think this movement would be way better off without the Puritan faggots that contribute nothing of value to the MAGA movement."

+1.

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conservativefrank 22 points ago +25 / -3

While you're picking battles, "we'll fight next time" or "we'll fight the important ones", the left is winning everywhere.

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Threaper666 14 points ago +15 / -1

They only win if good men do nothing.

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Heavy_Metal_Patriot 14 points ago +14 / -0

Where were the men of Kenosha? Why did a 17 year old kid have to be out there alone? Why wasn't there 200 men with him? Or even 20 men? Or even 2?

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RBK2 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think we are still too comfortable, and being afraid of losing our livelihoods and not being able to support our families plays a role in that.

Also, I don't know anyone that would be willing to protest with me, and I sure as hell wouldn't want to do it alone in the very state where Floyd died and massive riots occurred. Strength is in numbers.

And let's be real, no one would give a shit if I or anyone else on here got arrested, just like all of us haven't taken action since 1/6.

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Paul_Revere 2 points ago +2 / -0

My thoughts exact;y.

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Patriots_dont_kneel 12 points ago +12 / -0

Which they do. We let them get away with the election steal, with turning our military into a bunch of fags etc.

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Snooptwo -1 points ago +1 / -2

Exactly! So let’s pray publicly so everyone knows that we are totally awesome Christians! That will stop them! Quick someone post some cringe weird Bible verse or type out a prayer like “lord forgive them for they know not what they do” or some other gay faggotry you Christians keep posting here.

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conservativefrank 6 points ago +12 / -6

We'll get 'em next time!

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Ghostof_PatrickHenry 5 points ago +5 / -0

Nothing will change until corrupt politicians start going to jail and facing harsher justice. How we bring about that reality is the real question/debate.

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Norwegianskier 3 points ago +3 / -0

Dont worry about everything yanks

Allow us euros to take some of the fighting for once. Fokus on the big fight over there.

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 2 points ago +2 / -0

We can mourn the loss without making it one of our battles.

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projectfreedom 30 points ago +30 / -0

It has begun and it is up to us to save every statue and every book from these monsters until their madness destroys itself. The greatest culture to have ever existed will not be wiped out by tinpot dictators and their cronies.

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DebunkTheLeft 17 points ago +17 / -0

Yes. A lot of people think that we can't fight culture wars on more than one front at a time, but we can. The globalists, are, by definition, global. And in order to fight them, we ALSO need to be global. The US never would have existed without allies, a lot of people don't know that. And we can't continue to exist without allies either.

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projectfreedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

I never said we wouldn't have take an active role but we can only help it along.

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Jacobite 17 points ago +17 / -0

So much of history has been forgotten or misrepresented by modern "historians".

You can can destroy or replace entire races of people, has happened many times, and you can certainly destroy a culture, but what remains is all that is left behind. Monuments, artifacts, documents, and other material things.

Seems like this time around they are doing away with our various cultural achievements first.

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PhilipeNegro 10 points ago +10 / -0

How very Islamic of them

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Isaiah53 9 points ago +9 / -0

Take a deep breath, open your bible, and read everything Jesus said.

It is going to get worse. A lot worse.

Your job is to shine God's light in the gathering darkness, and to lead all who are willing to follow to His throne.

This is a spiritual war, so shine up your armor. (Ephesians 6:10-18)

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MsHawke01 1 point ago +1 / -0

It doesn't have to get a lot worse. That is up to all of us. Are we living in end times? Sure we are. All you have to do is look at the signs of the times to know that. But this is not the only end times. Noah lived in end times. Moses lived in end times. Jesus lived in end times. Sodom and Gomorrah was in end times. Things didn't work out too well for them because there were not 10 righteous people living there. But Nineveh was also in end times with a prophet that hated them so much that he tried to high tail it out of there rather than warn the people. But when the reluctant prophet was forced to do his job, the people repented and Nineveh was saved.

It is up to us if we want to be like Sodom and Gomorrah or if we want to be like Nineveh. I hope that more Christian America wakes up. They've been asleep for so long, have been lied to for so long. But it's truly time. The alarm clock is going off. Awake Awake America.

Along with the full armor, pray Psalm 91 every day. Then I'd take a look at Psalm 58. Who is David talking about? He's talking about men that set themselves up as gods over us. What did he do? Look at verse 6. He prayed for them.

6 O God, shatter their teeth in their mouth; Break out the fangs of the young lions, O LORD. 7 Let them flow away like water that runs off; When he aims his arrows, let them be as headless shafts. 8 Let them be as a snail which melts away as it goes along, Like the miscarriages of a woman which never see the sun. 9 Before your pots can feel the fire of thorns He will sweep them away with a whirlwind, the green and the burning alike. 10 The righteous will rejoice when he sees the vengeance; He will wash his feet in the blood of the wicked. 11 And men will say, "Surely there is a reward for the righteous; Surely there is a God who judges on earth!"

Then, I recommend Psalm 83.They're all here and there's only one way we're going to prevail. By the one Way. In these latter days, we certainly do hold to a form of godliness but denying the power thereof. We have the power to perform greater miracles than Christ Jesus, but we do not believe it. Know that He that is for us is greater than he that is against us!

Stop listening to the lies told by the false preachers, the false prophets that occupy the pulpits today. As said in Ezekiel 22

25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets in her midst like a roaring lion tearing the prey. They have devoured lives; they have taken treasure and precious things; they have made many widows in the midst of her. 26 Her priests have done violence to My law and have profaned My holy things; they have made no distinction between the holy and the profane, and they have not taught the difference between the unclean and the clean; and they hide their eyes from My sabbaths, and I am profaned among them. 27 Her princes within her are like wolves tearing the prey, by shedding blood and destroying lives in order to get dishonest gain. 28 Her prophets have smeared whitewash for them, seeing false visions and divining lies for them, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord God,’ when the Lord has not spoken.

There is yet hope. We are told in 2 Chron 7

13 If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people, 14 and My people [d]who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

But it goes on to say:

19 “But if you turn away and forsake My statutes and My commandments which I have set before you, and go and serve other gods and worship them, 20 then I will uproot you from My land which I have given [g]you, and this house which I have consecrated for My name I will cast out of My sight and I will make it a proverb and a byword among all peoples. 21 As for this house, which was exalted, everyone who passes by it will be astonished and say, ‘Why has the Lord done thus to this land and to this house?’ 22 And they will say, ‘Because they forsook the Lord, the God of their fathers who brought them from the land of Egypt, and they adopted other gods and worshiped them and served them; therefore He has brought all this adversity on them.’”

Jesus said, "If you love me, keep my commandments."

Does it have to get a lot worse? I say not if we follow the Word of God. Not if we repent.

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Isaiah53 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fun fact:

Satan quoted Psalm 91 to Jesus.

Moreover, in original Hebrew, the following from psalm 91 are literal names of demons:

"...the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence...the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday."

These are the names of raphaim/nephilim. Satan's minions.

This is why satan quotes this psalm to Jesus. He is trying to figure out if he can kill Jesus, and kick the judgment can down the road for a few more millennia.

He had tried to kill Jesus as a toddler, through Herod 1, but God protected Him. So satan wasn't sure if he could do it.

Jesus gave up nothing because the truth was, He needed satan to kill Him. He planned it.

And who entered Judas to turn in Jesus to the authorities? That would be satan.

Who told him to go?

Jesus did.

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MsHawke01 2 points ago +2 / -0

Very true. i was trying to not do what I did and that is create a wall of text that very few will read. Alas, here I am, a voice crying in the wilderness. I can only pray that it reaches those who have ears to hear and eyes to see.

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Isaiah53 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just drop the seeds of the Word.

Jesus said he'll have the Holy Spirit do the rest.

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Snooptwo 1 point ago +3 / -2

Ugh omggg shut the fuck up. I’m so sick of this gay cringe Christian shit. I’m not shining shit for a god that creates people for the explicit purpose of destruction (Romans 9). If you want to follow a god that condemns little babies to hell before they’re even born, then be my guest. But I’m sick of this faggy Christian shit, acting like you love people then turning around and attacking Rick Garnell because he’s gay. Read something other than your damn Bible. Thoughts and prayers won’t do a god damn thing. Now y’all can downvote me and not address Romans 9 like you always do because you don’t know a god damn thing about Christianity or apologetics. Just your lame ass bumper sticker Bible bullshit.

Maybe you Christians should actually listen to Jesus before showing off and posting your stupid prayers here.

And when you pray , do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray , go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen

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Isaiah53 3 points ago +4 / -1

You are incorrect.

On all fronts.

Even your quote is way off base, in terms of your argument context.

Jesus' quote has to do with false piety and, in particular, directly addressed the priests of his day who would stand in the streets chanting prayers, and then go back to their offices and steal all the property left to new widows by their husbands, and who caused many other forms of suffering.

I take it you are gay, from your Garnell comment. Being gay is just one sin. So is lying, any sex outside of marriage, creating and worshipping a false god you think is warm and fuzzy, etc.

So is being a coward Christian. (Revelation 21:8)

And coward Christians stand there and say nothing, fully knowing that their brother or sister is cutting themselves off before God, and allow them to burn.

Thus, when a Christian points out a sin, it is not done out of judgment, but out of love. As in, "Fix your shit, because I want to see you in heaven, brother."

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bighomiebeenchillin 0 points ago +1 / -1

you gonna address his point on roman 9 brah?

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Isaiah53 2 points ago +2 / -0

Once you are done with the Pawson history lesson, delve into the much shorter summary of the biblical clarity for Romans 9 with Michael Heiser. (The Calvinists got it wrong, which appears to be your interpretation, as well.):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tAMlq4bzXQ0

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bighomiebeenchillin 1 point ago +1 / -0

nah im good

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Isaiah53 2 points ago +2 / -0

Context is everything. Before we discuss one fragment of Romans, please catch up on its historical context:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OpXQbCnMWgA&list=PLfk5IZQHKovK_7RzISco4nVgMvt0bqFUZ&index=9

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bighomiebeenchillin 1 point ago +1 / -0

nah im good

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Jacobite 6 points ago +6 / -0

So much of history has been forgotten or misrepresented by modern "historians".

You can can destroy or replace entire races of people, has happened many times, and you can certainly destroy a culture, but what remains is all that is left behind. Monuments, artifacts, documents, and other material things.

Seems like this time around they are doing away with our various cultural achievements first.

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MehNahMehNah 5 points ago +5 / -0

Old books have no value any more :-( Big Tech has taken over history.

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Threaper666 12 points ago +12 / -0

That is why hard copies are important.

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DebunkTheLeft 10 points ago +10 / -0

My God, we are literally living Fahrenheit 451.

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GodSaveTheWest 3 points ago +3 / -0

yeah, so much of the history we know could just be lies. The only reliable history we have is video history and even that can be faked.

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Prussian_Pepe 26 points ago +26 / -0

Outside of the cold war, with the prompt up pissing match between USSR and USA do you know who has the 3rd largest stock pile of nukes? That's right the fucking French do. So if the country falls to muslim wack jobs like the globalist want, who do you think gets all the nukes?

Of course the USA does have it's own problems, which nothing short of overthrowing the government is going to actually do more than put a band-aid on a point-blank-buckshoot wound. But you can't completely dismiss what's happening in the rest of the world. The corruption bleeds from all around, and there is more than one knife waiting to stab you in the back when you aren't paying attention

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Directional 11 points ago +12 / -1

Notre Dame isn’t French. It is white western culture.

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Directional 0 points ago +1 / -1

Speak for yourself. Go back to 4chan.

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dudebro 15 points ago +15 / -0

They're destroying white culture. Today it's Notre Dame, tomorrow it's the Acropolis. We cannot fold.

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Injustice 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah yes, the trust the process, go out and vote republican, can't protest because i work, gotta have good optics, and only being able to focus on one thing at a time. That's the republican way and how we will succeed!

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Minn2000 136 points ago +138 / -2

Didn't the French government back in 2019 ordered to be rebuilt EXACTLY as it was?

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glowingstrawberry 99 points ago +99 / -0

that's called lying

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PhilipeNegro 12 points ago +12 / -0

Explain to the folks at home what lying is

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SHALL_NOT 19 points ago +19 / -0

It’s the native language of globalists

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glowingstrawberry 4 points ago +4 / -0

they say they will do X but plan for Y?

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Josemarti 42 points ago +42 / -0

You know the game. They say something moderate, the right knows the truth, the left defends their guy as if their guy is doing exactly what they don't want. Less than a year later we're proven right and all prior statements are forgotten.

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Shamb3 3 points ago +3 / -0

Our studies say domes are 99% Less likely to spontaneously combust.

Well maybe 75% likely, they might be the wrong sect of domes.

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DonttrustChina 1 point ago +1 / -0

what they technically said as that the damaged portions must be rebuilt exactly as they were, so the woke just changed the plan and decided to modify the UNdamaged portions.

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RATMW 103 points ago +104 / -1

France is much closer to civil war than any other western country except possible America. France is going to be the frontline vs Islam

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glowingstrawberry 51 points ago +51 / -0

france and america are very similar in term of white culture. they're the ones they're also the most afraid of. remember the usa would not exist if not for the french. there are way less french people with the ssme culture they once did, just like there are way less americans like that. in fact, its never been weaker. we'll see what happens i guess!

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Det_Richard_Nipples 24 points ago +24 / -0

We are very interconnected with the French. For as much ribbing as we give we are one and the same. They fought the British to help liberate us, and in turn our rebellion inspired the French peasants to rise up and free themselves. They gifted us Lady Liberty and we gifted them liberty in WWII. I think it's now France's turn to liberate themselves from tyranny and inspire us to do so ourselves.

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Montana_rulz 24 points ago +24 / -0

We give the French the most shit because we’re friends. It’s what you do- talk shit to your closest friends.

The French population is surprisingly based. Don’t get fooled by the news out of Paris. It’s like judging the United States by reading news from New York.

I’ve been all over France. Outside of the shithole that is Paris- most of the population is wonderful. They love the USA. The cemeteries at Normandy are honestly breathtaking. They upkeep that cemetery to immaculate perfection. France is a wonderful country. And they know how to revolt. Give them a bit of time.

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CaptTitus 8 points ago +8 / -0

1994 I was there, on my Cruiser, doing the pass in review for the 50th D-Day anniversary. The view from the bridge wing was quite impressive. A sea of white head stones that seemed to stretch for forever. Such a sacrifice.

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Heavy_Metal_Patriot -1 points ago +1 / -2

I'm sure it will be fine...

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marinatedartichoke1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Saint Louis the IX, Charlemagne, and Charles Martell

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Imnotsureyet2 51 points ago +51 / -0

You usually build monuments after successful war campaigns.

France may be one of the first to realize this is a cold war China is waging.

Identifying the weaknesses in your lifestyles, governments, justice systems and exploiting them.

Then China barricades itself from retaliation.

China's lady boys would be so easy to cripple mentally. So they have to shield their weak blood.

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Forgototherpassword 14 points ago +14 / -0

Kinda with Covid. Release it on the world while also releasing a fear campaign of fake videos with people dropping dead, aerosolized bleach on the outside of airplanes...

Fake giving a shit until the world starts buying it and shuts down, then open up while they destroy themselves.

A few decades ago they would have yelled, "psyche!"

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heightnoise 2 points ago +2 / -0

China's lady boys would be so easy to cripple mentally. So they have to shield their weak blood

Not as of August. Look online for the propaganda mouthpiece's statement that effeminate "Niang-pao" men, popular teen celebrities and Chinese billionaires are to be purged from their society. The article is from Aug 27th iirc, and relays the CCPs desire to reinvigorate the "working comerade" as a man of military and civil might. The article isnt just demagoguery either; they are reiterating to their miners and farmers that the arent working for just the Chinese people, but that they are part of "military preparation". Its the most extreme language the CCP has put out in a decade.

So in short forget about the sissy men in China. They've been killed off already, or almost all have been

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Imnotsureyet2 1 point ago +1 / -0

In a society as guarded as China's and they still have feminized men.

My point is stronger now. If they treated the internet like we do. Free and open. We would decimate them. They're mentally weak. Look at the damage done to our society while it's available for anyone in the world to interact with.

I think we are actually growing stronger. They're unconditioned and weak.

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ADEPhase3AnimalTrial 47 points ago +47 / -0

Muzzies got what they wanted

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GeneralBoobs 23 points ago +23 / -0

And commies.

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AmericanJawa 43 points ago +43 / -0

What happened to building it just like it was right down to using the same construction techniques?

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w0lver1 25 points ago +25 / -0

No self disrespecting globalist is going to condone the restoration of a church building.

20 bucks says it'll be a den of debauchery in some way or another if they get their way.

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knnbccb 34 points ago +34 / -0

Should have voted for Marine Le Pen's dad back in the day.

And for the Brits, the BNP.

"Oh no... that's too far right!"

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glowingstrawberry 15 points ago +15 / -0

they werent even really right. they were and are nationalists.. weakish ones at that.

its as if you took everyone that leans left and called them commies for 40 years everywhere.

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knnbccb 14 points ago +14 / -0

Anyone right of Mao/Stalin is demonized as 'far right' or 'alt right' by the gaslighting media. Look at Brazil's Bolsonaro.

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glowingstrawberry 4 points ago +4 / -0

yeppers

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Heavy_Metal_Patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeppers is the best form of yes.

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Butt-or-Face 2 points ago +2 / -0

The BNP is full of bundles of sticks.

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AdmrlNelson 32 points ago +32 / -0

Does anyone still have the video of the person on the roof right when the fire broke out?

This article is pushing an electrical short theory as the cause of the fire. 🤡🌎

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BarneyFranksNipples 22 points ago +22 / -0

Not to mention this happened at the height of “mysterious church fires” across Europe, right after importing new waves of Muslim “refugees”.

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culpfiction 19 points ago +19 / -0

I remember seeing that. Very suspicious.

Also the electrical requirements for work on site were so stringent that they couldn't use extension cables and stuff like that. I don't remember all the details but electrical fire would be very unlikely.

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DiscoverAFire 5 points ago +5 / -0

Plus the official reports of "Definitely not arson" while the cathedral was still burning, before any investigations could have even been started....

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IvIA6A 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yes very suspicious.

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Herecomedatpresident 2 points ago +2 / -0

I noticed that.

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QuickMaths 30 points ago +31 / -1

The pope is a self avowed communist who has publicly stated he wants to usher in a “New World Order”. Is anyone surprised?

So glad I ain’t catholic anymore, between the pedophilia and a communist pope, its embarrassing to be associated with that religion. My belief in God and Jesus is in my heart and soul, I have no use for creepy old men, I will speak to God with my own voice.

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Threaper666 12 points ago +12 / -0

The Kingdom of Christ is within you.

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Eatinglue 5 points ago +8 / -3

Martin Luther was right.

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deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0
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hillarysdildont 19 points ago +19 / -0

Istanbul was Constantinople…

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PhilipeNegro 9 points ago +9 / -0

How did Constantinople get the works?

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ElectronicSlurm69 8 points ago +8 / -0

That's nobody's business but the turks

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slangin_paint 3 points ago +3 / -0

I guess the liked it better that way

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PhilipeNegro 3 points ago +3 / -0

You, sir, win a chicken dinner.

ISTANBUUUUUULLLL

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Pal360 12 points ago +12 / -0

Later protesters will burn it down in the name of tiredness because people will be sick of being woke all the time.

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MetallicOpeth 2 points ago +2 / -0

One can only fucking hope

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ADEPhase3AnimalTrial 1 point ago +1 / -0

This needs to be updooted into reality

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worldofsmut 10 points ago +10 / -0

Why don't they just save time and skip directly to mosque.

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IcyHue 9 points ago +9 / -0

X

Last thing I heard recently (like two or three weeks ago) was that they stick to their plans to rebuild it exactly as it was. The article imho talks about ideas already abandoned.

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Directional 6 points ago +6 / -0

They are rebuilding the structure according to its original plans. This is an issue over the faggots redecorating the inside—removing confessionals and medieval artwork for “emotional spaces.”

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LeewardRights 1 point ago +1 / -0

Which is a desecration - of the Faith, the essential nature and function of the architecture, and of their own history. These current rulers have none of the qualities it took to build something so significant and exalted.

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J0eMamaLuigi 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting. Perhaps someone misinterpreted it, or it got changed.

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voter129472974 9 points ago +9 / -0

Read the book Ugly as Sin on architectural theology, traditional cathedrals, and modern (non) Church buildings. It's an eye opener and shows how the modernists went right for the throat, because architecture informs worship in a vastly underestimated way.

I seriously cannot recommend this book enough for Catholics---took less than a day to read.

And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

They will not win.

Also, St. Michael, you know the angel whose "Quis ut Deus" roused the angels in their indecision agan Satan? Yeah he's an absolute badass and is the official Protector of the Church. No chance this guy loses his charge.

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TexasPiper 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wow thank you for the recommendation! Just read the summary and some reviews. Ordering right away!

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voter129472974 2 points ago +2 / -0

Make sure you pass on what you learn. It's harder for them to pull this bullshit on an educated populace.

Fair warning though, (assuming you are Catholic) it is not easy getting redpilled as you probably know. Some things you learn will upset you, and you must pray for faith, hope, charity, and fortitude in particular.

As a young person raised by typical "conservative" boomers (and all that implies with Catholicism), I was shocked and disappointed (to say the least) to discover that the explicit purpose of Vatican II was to make the Mass more protestant. Obviously you see why that is incredibly fucking dumb. Next on my list is the 3-part Liturgical Revolution series by Michael Davies, whose Communion in the Hand and other Similar Frauds booklet is excellent.

Also, see this comment of mine:

https://patriots.win/p/140JAnsMre/x/c/4JIOjPpAbJ3

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TexasPiper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Many thanks for the recommendations…thankfully we live in a pretty conservative area and our diocese/parish isn’t woke. But every change we bring to our country and our faith seems to be in the wrong direction. I’m too young to know the difference from pre-Vatican II but some of the elders I speak with express a quiet dissatisfaction.

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voter129472974 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah that's definitely an advantage, I had to drag myself out of mediocrity in a libtard state without the benefit of anyone else's example.

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HighVoltage 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let art be the Bible of the illiterate.

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corntortilla 1 point ago +2 / -1

It always has been. That’s the reason for all the murals and mosaics in churches and cathedrals over the centuries. They were for an illiterate people that couldn’t read. Reading was kept for the clergy, while the murals and mosaics were propaganda the elite clergy could use to feed whatever they wanted to the illiterate. Not only that, the entire design of cathedrals was a form of propaganda, with their soaring spaces and light beaming down from above, as if coming from the heavens, while making the faithful feel small. The clergy, or representatives of god, sat raised on the alter with the heavenly light illuminating them back dropped by the beauty of all the glitter and gold.

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HighVoltage 1 point ago +1 / -0

Pretty demonic really.

The church convinced people to pay them so that they could use that money to continue convincing them that they would go to hell if they didn't keep paying.

Sick fucks.

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voter129472974 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly, the cruciform shape of the building, its verticality, permanance, and iconography, etc...

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LeewardRights 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks for the recommend. I am reminded of a lecture (am still trying to find it) I listened to about the mindset and philosophy of the most influential architect whose designs spawned brutalism. He was essentially an extreme misanthrope, with perhaps cognitive difficulties that made him not relate to human forms and faces well — he desired an architecture that would overwhelm and conform the individual, and designed alienating buildings without a clear welcome - no sense of where the person was meant to enter, no echo of the human face or form in doors and windows, no relief of detail for the eyes to wander about. And no relationship to landscape at all — for a middle eastern country, he insisted on designing a glass walled building so poorly thought out that it acted like a solar oven to cook its tenants. He is the reason for the architecture of communism and Chicago-style projects. The level of alcoholism, depression and despair his buildings created, as opposed to more traditional buildings, was measurable. His approach to architecture is the reason where is a horror movie rendering plant design of a church in Norton Shores Michigan (https://wp-media.patheos.com/blogs/sites/56/2019/01/49803824_10216623308549636_7232622250975821824_n.jpg)

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corntortilla 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don’t know if the architect was a true believer stripping away all the glitter and distraction to focus on the essential elements of the propaganda, or if he was an atheist that studied and understood it all well enough to successfully mock it all, but that is a masterful execution of all the essential propaganda of a cathedral.

The pews in an expansive and overwhelming space to make the faithful feel small. The lifted alter placing the clergy a little closer to god so the faithful don’t forget who is closer and who can show them the way to heaven. The clergy being brightly lit by the heavenly light streaming down from above to reinforce the idea they are chosen by god to lead the flock to heaven. The various angled ledges reflecting the light from above that begin to occasional draw the faithful’s gaze upwards where they can’t help but continue to follow the series of fin walls all the way up to the heavenly light coming from above. The brightly illuminated canopy ledge to bring the faithful’s gaze back down to the clergy, lest they begin to get any ideas about bypassing the clergy and connecting with god themselves.

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LeewardRights 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Altar is the mound of Calvary, the tomb of Christ, the mountain where the law is given, the mount of sacrifice, Christ himself symbolized, and the whole sanctuary is both the undefiled Garden of eden and the tent of meeting - the holy of Holies. This is the theology of the Altar. Good Church design focuses on the altar and tabernacle intentionally and reinforces these typologies.

Frankly, a Catholic is less concerned with the priest and is focused on the offering of themselves and their burdens to the Father, with Christ, in the Mass, and the Manna, the Eucharist, Christ Himself who is present, and replaces our hearts of stone with His own. The priest serves and if he prays the Mass with reverence and humility- more evident in the old traditional Mass - his personality is not noticed.

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CrankHandler1991 6 points ago +6 / -0

Burn it again

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w0lver1 2 points ago +3 / -1

Exactly!

Any Christian should realize that ultimately, these things are just organized piles of stone and wood. Our true focus is the new life and new world after death. God does not reside in physical temples anyway, He's in us.

So if those God hating fools want to take a dump on notre dame, let's shove it right up their asses.

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seilgu 6 points ago +6 / -0

Reading headlines like this often feels like death by a thousand cuts.

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DonttrustChina 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's on purpose.

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ExileOnRedditStreet 6 points ago +6 / -0

Gonna take another Charlemagne to ultimately set things right again.

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Threaper666 5 points ago +5 / -0

And Vlad the Impaler. Mixed in with a little Constantine and Gen. Sherman

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Throwaway_Test 3 points ago +4 / -1

Sherman can rot.

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GuerillaYourDreams 2 points ago +2 / -0

Vlad is becoming my hero.

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smartass 5 points ago +5 / -0

What Le Fuck?

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UsernameChexOut 5 points ago +8 / -3

Said it before, and I'll say it again: the Cucktholics are the biggest fucking pussies ever!

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PhilipeNegro 1 point ago +4 / -3

It's an extension of the Roman empire - complete with closeted homosexuality, borderless taxation, and a "faith" managed by administrators.

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lispboy 5 points ago +7 / -2

Hate to break it to you all. God is not in that place, never was. He's not in the Vatican either, or Mecca, or the Temple Mount (although he was at one point, and will be again, just not for the last 2000 years). He's not at your local church either. He is not at City Hall, or the Library, not even in your own home. In fact, he's not present at any place built with human hands. He lives in the heart of everyone who believes in His Son, the Redeemer Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. We collectively are his church, his bride.

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16BeatsAOne 4 points ago +4 / -0

Even with the assumption that Notre Dame was not a result of terrorism, this stance certainly sends a message to global anarcho-terrorists who loathe religion. And that message -- it is okay to burn down our places of worship, we'll just re-buid them into a woke site for all you communists.

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YourBasedRBelongToUs 4 points ago +4 / -0

“Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (whoever reads, let him understand),then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."

Matthew 24:15-16

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kfunny91 4 points ago +4 / -0

I bet The commie pope signed off on this

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HighVoltage 3 points ago +3 / -0

He probably suggested it.

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acasper 4 points ago +5 / -1

The church is rebranding. I’m really not surprised by this at all. They pretty much lost control of the sociocultural narrative in the last two hundred years for and they’re positioning themselves to take it back.

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King5150 7 points ago +7 / -0

The church, much like celebrities who have been called out by cancel culture believes it can appease and fall into the good graces of the woke, commie, atheist, hedonists and somehow be hip again to the mentally ill and deranged. What the church fails to grasp is that these animals don't bow to anything and expect you to slither down to their level just like them, and no matter what the church does to "get in and be accepted", it'll never be enough. The Church in the past was a place where "confirmed bachelors"(ie) fags and pedos went to hide their shame from the world and others saw opportunity to offend with church impunity, it's the reason why the catholic church got into so much trouble over the past 20 years as these matters of child sex cases surfaced all over the globe. (the offending was happening for decades before this....since the mid 40's).

The stigma of being a faggot these days is by enlarge, gone. It's now become celebrated as they have their own open to freaks sex bars and hookup support groups/clubs. They have their own pedo rings inside Antifa which welcomes them with the premise of protectionism. The church is no longer needed by faggots, rapists and pedos to shelter, shield them and furthermore there is no chance of them getting rehabilitated. Antifa offers them all their degenerate dreams and whims on demand....there is no incentive to change. Antifa also galvanizes their membership by indoctrinating them as a fellow victims who need to wreak woke justice on the masses for never fully embracing their degeneracy.

The Church has no way of competing with the deranged, sociopathic ways of what Antifa membership offers and should cease trying to get their audience immediately, otherwise its relevance as a place of worship for their parishioners will evaporate much like how the stigmatism of being a homosexual in the 21st century became a celebration of modern sodomy.

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voter129472974 2 points ago +2 / -0

Communist demoralization.

The Church is very much alive and well...much harder to destroy than you or its enemies think it is.

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acasper 1 point ago +1 / -0

“The Church” as opposed to the faith. That was the intent of my comment at least. To think that The Church is still in control of the cultural narrative is a bit of a stretch to say the least. That’s not communist demoralization, that’s reality.

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voter129472974 2 points ago +2 / -0

ok, I'm also referring to the incorrupt Church (sorta like the Platonic ideal or substance) which is not visible to the eye

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acasper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank you for clarifying and asking me to do as well. Not distinguishing between the two, which I failed to make clear in my original comment, IS Communist Demoralization.

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Agent_86 3 points ago +5 / -2

I'm no catholic but I cry bullshit!!!

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JZSquared 3 points ago +3 / -0

Archive link to The Telegraph article: https://archive.md/v0JyQ

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sword 2 points ago +2 / -0

thank you

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voter129472974 3 points ago +3 / -0

C'mon guys, don't fall for gay clickbaite titles:

"Adjective Noun "to Be" insert verb shocking clause"

Might not even happen.

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GuerillaYourDreams 3 points ago +3 / -0

Only a mentally ill and spiritually diseased Pope would approve something like this.

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Paintman05WhiteSox 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's not the Pope's call nor is it the Archbishop of Paris' decision. Notre Dame is owned and funded by the secular government. Much like French historical sites and museums. Darn shame too. The only saving grace I can see is wokeness is very faddish. Eventually they will tire from the interior woke renovations and hopefully it will be returned to its previous glory to God. My 2 optimistic cents.

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SaltySavage 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is OBSCENE.

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BlaineBug 3 points ago +3 / -0

It will match modern day Catholicism as a whole.

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LoneWolfsBigIgloo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Satanic.

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Redbird 3 points ago +3 / -0

Michelle Obama lifts her champagne glass to cheer to that.

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HighVoltage 3 points ago +3 / -0

A haiku for the occasion you mention:

In glass reflection

A church steeple burns brightly

And she tucks penis

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ConcernedFrenchFrog 2 points ago +2 / -0

French here: never heard of that 😬

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Schroeder09 2 points ago +2 / -0

Politics is downstream of culture. This is important.

I really think we have to stop giving to our Catholic churches. I'm a practicing catholic. All these communists understand is force and money. Pope frances's goons need to suffer from a lack of the latter. They need to know why they're suffering too.

If our church buildings- hundreds of years old in many cases- are being corrupted and used as communist breeding grounds then stop funding them. We may have to go further every Sunday to drive to a different diocese that is fighting hard against this evil communist take over.

The congregation needs to know what's going on. Unfortunately, at least in my experience this may be a fruitless battle where even the most ”MAGA normie” (one who is somewhere between a true "normies" and ourselves") will not agree with you and think you're nuts. I've talked with plenty at my church about the communist take over of the country and our Catholic church. They're all in agreement and seem on board with acting and making a difference until they walk in to the church doors. Then it all goes out the window. Then they're go along and get along good little sheep. They gentle, kind, and listen to the communist priest. I'm not sure how to handle it, but we need to purge the church by attacking their money supply. This is risky as it may damage the institution we love so much. However, I'd we purge the church of the cucks its teachings may once again gain bite and attract more followers, mass attendees, and givers. I believe the church has been seeing mass decline in attendance because its teachings are wishy washy BS. They have an opportunity to stand against evil and teach in big, bold colors. The 501C3 has them majorly cucked. Abandon the 501C3, lose tax exemption, but you will gain more followers because your teaching will have bite and attract people. People want a cause. The Catholic teaching watered down garbage doesn't give us that. We have to do all our spiritual work extracurricularly.

Atheist pedes and those of other religions reading this should be on board with a strong Catholic church. Your own western moral framework that makes you believe things such as raping children etc. is WRONG is all based on Christianity. Everything good you enjoy here is based in Christianity. A Christian society is one we all benefit from.

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LeewardRights 1 point ago +1 / -0

501c3 has not much to do with this at all. The worst influence is coming through communist and libertine infiltrators like McCarrick, wolves in the sheepfold, who take money from China and elsewhere. They do not believe, and even worse, hate Christ and his people. The German church tax, while a seeming point of historic equity, has given many of the German hierarchy, often heterodox or outright heretical, a gross amount of monetary weight and influence - which multiplied the effect of their faithlessness.

That said, to be a good steward in the realm we directly effect - there are some approaches to guarding ones tithing money from abuse, while directing it towards actual good use. In a diocese where one does not support the use of funds, one can directly pay bills or make purchases in the parish level - utility bills, projects, etc. One can fund a work of mercy directly, or through a well vetted religious order or group. Most of all, do not give money to infiltrators and parasites who do not believe the Faith, and actively work against it.

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Schroeder09 2 points ago +2 / -0

The 501C3 is the root of cuckery in the church. It attracts the "Jesus loves you" priests and like-minded weaklings. No substance teaching. These are often the communists. "don't judge me! Jesus loves me and you too !"

The parishioners don't want this. People need challenged. They need fire and brimstone. Give them this and more will come. More coming to mass means more donations to offset the loss of the 501C3. Teaching fire and brimstone makes good Catholics that spread the faith, fight for freedom, and fight for the USA.

If you don't agree we'll have to agree to disagree because I've been convinced in this belief for ~10 years. I become more convinced of it every year and with each insane overtly communist thing poop Frances says.

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LeewardRights 1 point ago +1 / -0

I would disagree in part - I t’s not the root - most churches can barely afford to redo the roof. There are a multitude of profit business that have been overrun by marxists simply because it’s a way to overtake culture. Churches are a natural target. I will say that the “fruits” of VII spirituality, indifferentism, infiltration of the seminaries and insinuation of secular, de-sacralized psychology into them, and some key influential diocese overtaken by communists created an environment where wishy washy opportunists (who see it as an easy job) and essentially men who want to be social workers but not true sacradotal Fathers to become priests. I agree with your view on preaching with fire - washed down secular platitudes drive people away in the end, the lukewarm eventually sleep in on Sundays, and the committed leave to find Fathers that know the Faith and preach with clarity and zeal. It’s been going from night to day to be in a parish where the priest preaches the unvarnished truth unashamed and with conviction. The perennial Truth is difficult, holy, and worthy, and knowing what it is is critical for surviving the chaos of an imposter like Francis.

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corntortilla 1 point ago +1 / -0

The wealthiest organization on earth laughs at the idea they won’t get a few nickels from you. They’ve survived 50 generations. They’ll outlive you and far beyond.

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Schroeder09 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's not true. Small churches go out of business quite often. There is a struggle for retired priest pension. The church as a whole may be very wealthy, but I think the diocese have somewhat insulated funds. They're somewhat independent, and they're running their own local businesses. I'd you stop feeding them they die quickly.

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DonttrustChina 2 points ago +2 / -0

Of course, that's why they burned it in the first place.

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FrankWisner 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is what happens when Luciferians enter the gates. Fire brought them in, and fire will see them away.

Get Ready. STAY Ready.

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ElectronicSlurm69 2 points ago +2 / -0

Next on Exploitation Theater-- Blacula, followed by Blackenstein, and the Blunchblack of Blotre Blame

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ed_shaw 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Paresian version of our left's "build back better."

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stick_in_the_eye 2 points ago +2 / -0

when you bend over for muhammad dont complain when he fucks you.

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Auroraalpha 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wokeness came from shitty Continental Philosophy.

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Star_Commander 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was hoping this was the bee.

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zippy2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Saw this yesterday and didn't even click on it because I assumed it was

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RandallSavage 2 points ago +2 / -0

Make no mistake, anything held sacred to decent people is under attack and will be ruined until something is done to stop them.

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 2 points ago +2 / -0

Disgusting, and called correctly by this board (and certain others, I’m sure) the second the fire was announced.

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Kitzinger1 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's not set in stone yet. They are going to have a meeting. I don't see the French people being on board on this.

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spezisacuckold 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fuck me. At this rate the Muslims should have just burned the whole thing down. The French don’t deserve to have such a great monument if they’re just going to desecrate it themselves when given the “chance”. Why is the western world so hellbent on killing itself? It’s fucking madness.

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rplgn 2 points ago +2 / -0

The condition for obtaining the funding is to install propaganda. Got it.

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Marshall2 1 point ago +1 / -0

If it's going to be Disney, just don't rebuild.

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Drud14 1 point ago +2 / -1

“Stop, Stop! France is already dead!”

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SeeWithYourMind 1 point ago +1 / -0

Eurotrash is good at converting beautiful and grand ornate architecture into modern communistic cold booger eating shapes. Was this an inside job? The catholics have been shitheads for American Conservatism for decades.