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racer513 159 points ago +159 / -0

It's more dangerous to come out of the closet as a conservative , than it is to come out as gay

OZ00MSTALLGEESE 92 points ago +93 / -1

It is not dangerous in any way shape or form to come out as gay. Literal children do it all the time.

gregariousbarbarian 52 points ago +52 / -0

Well.... depends on what country you live in lol.

But the left is only concerned with "homophobia" where white people live....

LarryBugman 13 points ago +13 / -0

Countries that persecute the gays produce refugees, which lefties can manufacture into self esteem through virtue signalling. They’re indispensable.

ConcernedFrenchFrog 8 points ago +8 / -0

Not only self estime: cannon fodder against white societies, social and electoral dumping.

DestroyerofCobwebs 21 points ago +21 / -0

Not only is it not dangerous, identifying as a homosexual is intentional left open as the only escape hatch for children who are being abused by their peers in the public schools.

Nothing else they do can make the torment stop, but the second they say they're gay, the teachers and administration rush in to protect them.

Do people think that kids can't figure that shit out? I have seen it happen to children of my long time friends. These kids aren't really gay, they're just sick of being tormented and have an obvious get out of misery button sitting right in front of them.

What they don't realize though, is that this move comes with a cost; being part of the LGBT community, which is basically an acceptance cult. Most of them never find their way back out.

The public school system is manufacturing homosexuals.

Retard_Strength 8 points ago +8 / -0

incentivize it; get more of it.

it is amazing how many people don't understand this basic part of human nature.

or are more accurately, willingly ignorant.

GodSaveTheWest 3 points ago +3 / -0

The public school system is manufacturing homosexuals.

Government school system, call it what it is. All part of the plan for the destruction and resetting of the west.

Neutral_admin 1 point ago +2 / -1

I mean, it's usually also well founded by private corporation "foundations", it's more of a government/corporate amalgamation designed to generate productive idiots and middle managers than anything else.

boomerbutnotOKBoomer 1 point ago +1 / -0

that is a very astute observation. Name checks out

Ricky_CIA 1 point ago +2 / -1

Even that faggot that got "lynched" decades ago in Wyoming wasn't actually killed because he was gay, it was a botched robbery.

But that didn't stop the globo-homos from using him as a martyr on a cross to further their faggot degenerate agenda.

treos -17 points ago +3 / -20

that's not true when the parents are theists. i mean, heck, the amount of bigoted hatred i've seen here...i feel bad for those people's kids if any of them are lgb. they're parents have a true hatred for them and think their demons or something because being gay goes against their religious beliefs.

it's where a good chunk of my down votes came from here. theists showing how hateful and bigoted they actually are.

Daniel Ashley Pierce abused by family for being gay.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPrUW6W331M still there on youtube since Aug 28, 2014

listen to them lie as they abuse and attack him by claiming they love him. there's no love of any kind in that video. just hatred and hostility.

it is pretty risky to come out as gay when the rest of your family are theists.

OZ00MSTALLGEESE 4 points ago +8 / -4

Cry about it queer no one cares

treos -1 points ago +3 / -4

why should i cry about you having been raised and taught by hateful people to hate others for the crime of being different in some way?

you're no better than a leftist suffering from a terminal case of TDS.

you're just following in the footsteps of other hateful people who taught you to be hateful towards others.

the only difference is that you hate people from being different instead of having different political views.

you're a pathetic excuse of a human and so are those who raised and taught you to be this way.

tell me, does my being gay frighten you? does my being gay injure or otherwise harm you in some way? or do you just hate me simply for the sake of it and because you can?

people like you are just as bad as leftists. maybe take some time and review the history of your hateful religion and study how tyrannical your imaginary god is sometime.

you theists are just filled with hatred and bile cloaked in a grand deception of kindness and forgiveness.

i've seen a single theist at least attempt to be friendly here thus far. the rest of you have shown me nothing but hatred simply for the fact i'm gay.

that cloak of kindness and forgiveness doesn't work on me because i see through your deceptions and see you people for what you truly are.

OZ00MSTALLGEESE 2 points ago +6 / -4

Cope and seethe

treos 0 points ago +4 / -4

ok, leftist

Neutral_admin 2 points ago +5 / -3

Wow, was that all it took for you to take the mask off?

You went from "bigots are bad" to "people like you" from a seven word sentence.

treos 2 points ago +3 / -1

what mask? i haven't been wearing a mask of deception. it's theists who do that.

acting like their religion is all nice and forgiving and kind when in reality it's nothing but hatred and bigotry towards anything that goes against its teachings.

not once have i been pretending to be nice or trying to deceive anyone. i've made my stance on all this religious hatred crystal clear since i first commented about it.

Neutral_admin 2 points ago +5 / -3

The only person with religious hatred here is you.

You came into a group you don't know, and accused them of things you couldn't possibly know or even have any evidence of.

You are literally a bigot.

SpartanRolandB210 -1 points ago +1 / -2

im not scared of faggots, faggots are scared of me. you arent the abomination boy, it is your sin people can be saved. but your hate wont allow that.

treos 1 point ago +3 / -2

good thing i'm not a faggot then. i'm not a bundle of sticks. sadly, i have to be a human like you.

and sin? if you want me to repent for the "sin" of being gay then you're telling me to repent for the crime of being born!

but lucky for me, i'm not part of your religion. i've committed no religious sin. that's just you wanting to punish someone for simply being who they are. wanting to punish someone for being different.

you don't scare me in the slightest.

SpartanRolandB210 2 points ago +2 / -0

im not part of a religion either. also the "gay gene" is not good science.

StronklikeBull -2 points ago +1 / -3


Dudes like you ALWAYS want the cock. I feel sorry for your kids when you get busted blowing someone at a gas station.

OZ00MSTALLGEESE 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Anyone who makes fun of me for being a disgusting degenerate must also secretly be a disgusting degenerate"

Cope, faggot.

Forbidden_outcast 2 points ago +3 / -1

Why do you think that is representative of every religious family?

Seems to me that these parents are of very low class status, and the young man is a master of manipulation.

Why did the young man push and push and push to the point of inciting their outrage. Why did he not just leave, but continue a relationship with them?

All they wanted to say was we do not support your <insert lifestyle>, now that you are adult.

My parents did the same thing to me, bc I was a little (ok, a lot) wild. I did the same thing to my oldest adult child when she dropped out of college and I was paying for her apartment. (I was only paying for the apartment for bc I wanted her to focus on school.)

This kid literally used his gay status to beat his parents over the head, bc it’s all the rage right now, and got him even more attention. (Like I said- he seems like a very manipulative young man.)

Do you normally take the language of the most uneducated among us, and use it as a cudgel to fuel your own hatred? Because it seems like that is what you are doing.

Edit: this kid just didn’t want to support his own self, and if his parents weren’t going to do that, he was hellbent on taking them down with him. That’s a pretty low down person.

treos 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Why did the young man push and push and push to the point of inciting their outrage."

what makes you think he wanted them to react that way? who in their right mind wants their own family to turn against them like that?

"All they wanted to say was we do not support your <insert lifestyle>, now that you are adult."

what lifestyle? homosexuality isn't a lifestyle just like being heterosexual isn't a lifestyle. you speak of ignorance while showing your own ignorance here. what makes you think people choose to be lesbian, gay, or bisexual?

i never chose to be gay but here i am.

and they made it very clear in that video that they were doing that for religious reasons specifically. why else would they keep trying to hammer home the fact they believe his being gay is a sin?

"This kid literally used his gay status to beat his parents over the head, bc it’s all the rage right now, and got him even more attention. (Like I said- he seems like a very manipulative young man.)"

2014 is not current year. and no, that was...you're insane if you think that's what he was doing in that video! HE was the victim in that video, NOT THE AGGRESSOR! the rest of his family were attacking HIM!

"Do you normally take the language of the most uneducated among us, and use it as a cudgel to fuel your own hatred? Because it seems like that is what you are doing."

like i even need to do that. also, "the most uneducated among us"? yeah...majority... especially people like you who think homosexuality is a lifestyle or a choice people make.

"Edit: this kid just didn’t want to support his own self, and if his parents weren’t going to do that, he was hellbent on taking them down with him. That’s a pretty low down person."

you lying piece of shit. you're purposely twisting the facts to suit your argument. that's not what happened in that video and you damn well know it.

you're a sick individual who is victim shaming and defending child abuse. iirc he was still a minor at the time of that video being uploaded but you clearly don't care about that.

"the most uneducated among us"?

ok, RETARD! how about you go work at CNN? OH, WAIT! WHAT'S THAT I HEAR?!

CNN, Gay teen records family's intervention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkIHmnOzMDM



yet here YOU are, twisting the facts, LYING, trying to make it sound as if the VICTIM in this situation was the aggressor and that his hateful bigoted family were the victims when they LITERALLY TOLD HIM AHEAD OF TIME THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS!

he did this to EXPOSE them. to expose this kind of abuse lgb sometimes face when coming out to their own family!

and you DARE try to claim THEY were the VICTIMS?!

i'd say "fuck you!" but you're too hateful and abusive.

Forbidden_outcast 1 point ago +2 / -1

You seem sane. Parents have the right to kick their adult children out of the house for any reason they choose- and the kid doesn’t have to like it.

I’m not even religious 🤣, yet here you are still spewing the exact same hate to a non-religious person, as why you try to claim is the reason you hate religious people.

Maybe the problem is you just overly-nurturing your inner victim ideology.

And you what- some people may truly dislike gay people bc they don’t think it’s in God’s laws.

But the majority of them, run across people like you- and think- no way can we give someone like this yet another weapon to beat across our heads and sow division and hate.

treos 1 point ago +1 / -0

"I’m not even religious 🤣, yet here you are still spewing the exact same hate to a non-religious person, as why you try to claim is the reason you hate religious people."

i've never once said i hate religious people.

"And you what- some people may truly dislike gay people bc they don’t think it’s in God’s laws."

i don't give a damn about their imaginary friends laws.

"But the majority of them, run across people like you- and think- no way can we give someone like this yet another weapon to beat across our heads and sow division and hate."

dude, theists have literally been a protected class in this country since it was first founded ("religious freedom" part of the constitution).

https://patriots.win/p/140JK8w4g4/nearly-two-dozen-house-republica/ and they want to deny other people that same level of protection. why? because they don't want lgb and t people to become a protected class like they are!

if anything, i'm giving them what they deserve for their hatred and bigotry. you want to treat lgb people like shit simply because they're different in some way? then tough shit! have a taste of your own damn medicine, BIGOTS!

but no...we have to keep those theists protected and deny their victims the same level of protection. that's pretty fucked up, y'know? and don't even try to deny that that's what's happening.

treos 0 points ago +1 / -1

iirc it's because of people like you that he did that in the first place.

Forbidden_outcast 0 points ago +1 / -1

Lol. So you don’t agree that a parent has the right to kick their adult child of the house for any reason?

treos 1 point ago +1 / -0

careful, retard, your stupidity is showing again.

i've already made my point but you're not even trying to deny that you support child abuse on religious grounds.

you're a heartless monster.

Forbidden_outcast 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gnat, begone!

Neutral_admin 1 point ago +4 / -3

I don't think you actually realize how small a church Westboro Baptist actually was.

treos 2 points ago +3 / -1

ha! you think i've been talking about that church in my comments here? lol no. i've been talking about theists in general. you're all a bunch of hateful bigots.

well...most of them are anyway...

Neutral_admin 0 points ago +3 / -3

The irony in your reply is palpable.

borntacticool 1 point ago +3 / -2

This 20 year old "kid" is a disgrace. I do believe he probably went on facebook and defamed his parents like they accused him of because there's video evidence of him doing it already that he provided himself.

Anyone who airs a family's dirty laundry and badmouths them in public while still taking benefit from them is a piece of shit. It's not even about being gay at that point. If you want to say you're being "abused" but you're still living at home at 20 you're little more than a parasite.

It's Ilhan Omar behavior. The USA helps her in so many ways and instead of being thankful she becomes a terrorist. If he didn't like his parent's opinions or religious beliefs, he should have moved out - instead he stuck around and did shit calculated to damage and defame them, recorded it and put it online.

That makes him a piece of shit.

treos 1 point ago +2 / -1

that's a pretty good job of victim shaming and defending religion fueled homophobic bigotry and hatred you just did there.

are you always such a hateful cunt?

oh, who am i kidding...you probably support child abuse too. just. because. they're. gay.

do you theists even realize just how incredibly similar you are to leftists suffering from TDS? it's like i'm commenting on CNN youtube videos on this site with how much hatred you guys throw around.

it's enough to make me genuinely wonder which side is actually the lesser of the 2 evils or if both are just filled with equally hateful cunts. hateful, and likely pent up in some way or another, cunts.

seriously...you theists think everyone needs jesus and belief in religion to live a good and get by in life.

no, thank FUCK i'm an atheist. i sure as fuck don't need your hatred and bigotry to get by in life. i don't need to be such a shitty person to get by in life. and i don't need to worship a tyrant that doesn't even exist to get by in life.

and don't say he does because i already know NONE of you have even the slightest hint of actual proof to prove your bastard god exists.

there, i said it. been holding back on that to be polite but i'm sick of getting shit from you cunts. your god is a tyrannical bastard whose existence is a state of perpetual subjectivity. you've got no proof he does exist, everyone else has no proof he doesn't exist.

"If he didn't like his parent's opinions or religious beliefs, he should have moved out - instead he stuck around and did shit calculated to damage and defame them, recorded it and put it online."

go fuck your smelly fish craw with a metal spike.

all you people do is piss me off. and the guy in that video? his parents and the rest of his family were in the wrong and treated him like shit. THEY are the ones in the wrong in that video, NOT him. HE was the VICTIM of religious bigotry and hatred.

borntacticool 0 points ago +1 / -1

victim shaming

What is he a "victim" of? Hanging around after he's 18 and trying to publicly shame his parents while still taking their free housing and food? He secretly recorded and trashed his family in public. If that's what fags do, I don't want them around either.

defending religion fueled homophobic bigotry and hatred you just did there.

I bet you they didn't go out in public and talk shit about him. They have a right to their beliefs just as he does - but he doesn't have the right to use their home as a platform to fuel his anti-Christian bigotry.

are you always such a hateful cunt?

Haven't called you anything yet, fag.

oh, who am i kidding...you probably support child abuse too. just. because. they're. gay.

I'm opposed to gays because I'm against child abuse. There's a strong link between homosexuality and pedophilia. Also not a fan of rooting in feces - sodomy is disgusting and unhygienic regardless of who is doing it. Homosexuals spread STDs, they spread AIDS and they're not typically monogamists. Even the idea of gay marriage is a joke. They clearly only wanted it to mock and defile the Christian religion because they commit adultery at every turn.

do you theists even realize just how incredibly similar you are to leftists suffering from TDS? it's like i'm commenting on CNN youtube videos on this site with how much hatred you guys throw around.

it's enough to make me genuinely wonder which side is actually the lesser of the 2 evils or if both are just filled with equally hateful cunts. hateful, and likely pent up in some way or another, cunts.

seriously...you theists think everyone needs jesus and belief in religion to live a good and get by in life.

no, thank FUCK i'm an atheist. i sure as fuck don't need your hatred and bigotry to get by in life. i don't need to be such a shitty person to get by in life. and i don't need to worship a tyrant that doesn't even exist to get by in life.

Fedorafags are embarrassing - which brings me to my next point: Homosexuals are also very fucking annoying. You're dramatic, narcissistic, and intolerable. Half the reason people can't stand you isn't even the buggery, it's your own shitty behavior. It's like you take the worst, most obnoxious Jewish mother-in-law and integrate it into your personality; then you wonder why no one wants to be around you.

Incidentally I'm not even a Christian.

RizzlieDoodad 35 points ago +35 / -0

It's not about being a conservative, it's about leaving the Democratic plantation

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AmericanJawa 7 points ago +7 / -0

Some people didn't leave the Democrat plantation, they just stayed in the exact same place and the Democrat plantation left them behind.

javixpimraj 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Squirted out from under them" is the way I think of it.

OGpsywar 3 points ago +3 / -0

Staying within the same two (Left Claw "vs" Right Claw) feet, of the same Satanic Buzzard, is a distraction from Real Redpilling. It just trades one illusion for another.

The frightening aspect for those that fully Redpill
-is- disconcerting, for those who can step back from Both the claws - and finally perceive the Buzzard, -

It's their Shock of realizing: "Oh My G-d, Those 'Crazy' People Were Correct The Whole Time"..

Or as someone put it last week: "Lately Any Use Of The Term 'Conspiracy Theory' Should Just Be Replaced With The Term 'Spoiler Alert'."

Neutral_admin 1 point ago +2 / -1

Left/Right is simplistic European politics.

Sexyqualiathoughts 18 points ago +18 / -0

Been on Reddit for years before the purge of the_donald, use to be on r/atheism and at the time it was a victim fest that I fed into. Granted, I did lose some family members when I first left religion, but I will say this, being a Pro-American (aka Trump supporter) has been WAYYYYYYY more difficult.

America1stAndOnly 16 points ago +16 / -0

I used to be a part of r/atheism too. Ironically, the helped me find God with Jesus Christ. The more time that got spent there, the more it became apparent that they weren't about atheism, they were just about hating Christians. It should have just been called anti-Christianity, because that's the only religion they've ever had a problem with.

KekistanPM 11 points ago +11 / -0

Imagine people being so worked up over a deity they don't even believe exists.

"But I literally cannot go anywhere without a Christian forcing their beliefs on me!"

I don't believe that for a second; if anything I'm seeing "churches" adapt their beliefs to fit political correctness all around me. Even Jesus said "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet."

SpartanRolandB210 1 point ago +1 / -0

which is sad progressive Christianity is not Christianity at all

Retard_Strength 7 points ago +7 / -0

lots of atheist cowards who are just bullies. they know they can dump all over Christianity with no repercussions. But they literally admit they are afraid of criticizing Islam, 'because [they] have families' (literal quote from Penn Gillette, IIRC)

SuddenlyClintoned 5 points ago +5 / -0

If someone calls themselves agnostic, I'm apt to believe them.
If someone calls themselves atheist, there's a 50/50 chance they're simply hateful in my experience.

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Glower_not_shower 5 points ago +5 / -0

I never got that sub. I grew up with in probably one of the most religious parts of the Bible belt and was never persecuted for not going to church or being in the Christian clubs at school. Yea a few people may have made comments but no big deal.

Im pretty sure that place was just a bunch of basement dwellers living way too comfortably looking for something to persecute them.

Neutral_admin 3 points ago +4 / -1

I find most militant atheists are generally assholes who are unpleasant to be around. When people reject them in general they have to say it's because they are atheists.

The LGB-whatever-the-fuck community is like this too. Especially the T-tards, they get up in people's faces and push push push push and when they get their asses handed to them, it's "because I'm trans"

SpartanRolandB210 3 points ago +3 / -0

yeah honestly this. if you spend anytime around self described atheist's their usually just assholes they hate so much and that makes them so unpleasant they are bitter hateful people in all they do.

SHILL_DETECTOR 10 points ago +10 / -0

dont go inside closets

Dialectic 9 points ago +9 / -0

What if you have a walk-in closet?

SHILL_DETECTOR 7 points ago +7 / -0

Those are for the wife!

SwampMonsterJesus 5 points ago +5 / -0

Or for the gun storage with lots of safes for the multiple guns you own!

Tacosalad67 4 points ago +5 / -1

It doesn't matter, if you walk into a closet and come out, even if you have a bunch of cool guns, you still came out of the closet and therefore will always be technically gay. I'm sorry but rules are rules.

MrSir 2 points ago +2 / -0

Explains the trend in open concept houses and barn style doors and light fixtures.

All the clues are coming together.

Neutral_admin 1 point ago +2 / -1

Nothing makes me feel more gay than holding a nice gun though.

SpartanRolandB210 1 point ago +1 / -0

thems the rules and we cant change em

treos 2 points ago +2 / -0

lol suuure...

CheapChinesePlastic 1 point ago +2 / -1

Imagine coming out as a race realist that believes behavior and cognitive ability is determined by genetics and environment is a small minority in determining one's success.

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Scumbag-reddit 52 points ago +52 / -0

I've never been a lefty, not even close. Always been a conservative because I've always been high on critical thinking and it's my belief that you cannot be both a critical thinker and a lefty. What the left did do however is remove my tolerance for them. I used to be a live and let live kinda guy...but that shit don't fly any more.

AHonkTooFar 16 points ago +16 / -0

Same here, grew up on a farm (but went into stem). Mom and gran have amazing people sense (and memory) so they already doubted what the public was being fed years ago during the 'war on terror' but even they didn't realize how far the rot went, I still remember them pointing out inconsistencies in news reporting when they talked politics with each other when we were just kids. Or how whenever criticism of whichever government was in power got heated there always was, with perfect timing, a crisis to distract the masses.

In stem I truly realized thinking and critical thinking were separate, I've met cab drivers with much better bs detectors than top scientists I've worked with.

Some of my views have changed over the years but I never moved from the right. The left are destroying our civilization.

SupremeDearLeader2 2 points ago +2 / -0

No doubt that leftist elites exploit cognitive deficits to gain and keep power, the biggest lefties I know in real life have anxiety disorders and self medicate which further fogs their cognitive abilities.

JustLeaveMeTheFAlone 34 points ago +34 / -0

I was a lefty until Obamacare. I couldn’t forgive forcing people to enter complex contracts with for-profit corporations. On top of that, they used the derided Bush cost-plus model for setting prices on health insurance.

NoCoupForYou 31 points ago +31 / -0

I voted for Obama because I believed the banks needed to be re-regulated and Glass-Steagal needed to return.

Then, the moment he got elected, he fired all his advisors that were pushing him to do just that and gave them make-work, do-nothing 'white paper commissions'.

And started talking about Nationalizing Health Care, as if that was the problem of the time.

Turned out that banks got mega trillion guarantees and bailouts and almost no reforms, while homeowners who were paying their mortgages. often for years, until they lost their jobs during the Financial Crisis nothing.

In 2012 I wrote in RON PAUL. In 2016 I finally voted for a real American President, Donald J. Trump. 2020 as well.

usernamenottaken 5 points ago +5 / -0

I share your 2012 and 2016 experience, fren!

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GontMawr 30 points ago +30 / -0

I am living proof.

grenades_and_ham 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was going to just ask for an example.

AtheistTrumper 4 points ago +4 / -0

Me too. Cults are shitty.

nickybops 1 point ago +1 / -0


Ellessargolden 30 points ago +31 / -1

10 years ago under Obummer I was a lefty. As soon as I saw all the anti white male bullshit I became right wing by choice. Then I researched and formed MY own opinions...now I am further right than Trump. I have become a "Right Wing Extremist".

Sir_Girth 16 points ago +16 / -0

Bet you can make people melt down with your opinions. I know I can. Trump isn’t even that right wing. At least not as far as I would have went.

I’m unapologetically right wing now myself.

I work in an office. Whenever people start talking about the vaxx in a positive light I’ll sit in my cube and bleat like a sheep. People don’t like that very much. 🤣

Ellessargolden 9 points ago +10 / -1

I have stated before that we need to cut ALL WELFARE. This includes SS and Medicare. I even predicted that the first people to be tossed under the bus would be the old, then the infirm, now children. It's all a part of scrubbing the nation of any and all opposition to COMMUNISM, whether it be old, present or new.

Sir_Girth 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yup! That is one thing I would do. I would also cut foreign aid off completely. America is not the world’s piggy bank. We don’t owe any other country anything.

Complete moratorium on immigration too. I wouldn’t let anyone in at all. I don’t care what credentials you have, or how pro-America you are.

We have to deport every single illegal as well. ICE and CBP would not want for funding if it were me.

We have to clean up a mess that has been decades in the making. It’s going to take a while.

Get ourselves set back up, and then we could allow immigration again, but with very strict standards.

Those are just a couple examples of what I would do.

Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +2 / -0

Got my vote Fren

Sir_Girth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Glad to hear it! I could go on…

I have a vision, but it would take years to make it so.

Been toying with running for office when I lose my job soon.

Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +2 / -0

Please do

Sir_Girth 2 points ago +2 / -0

You’re sweet. Maybe I will!

Neutral_admin 1 point ago +2 / -1

Hey, let me in before you do that moratorium thing. If I slip down illegally over the northern border, than I'm limited to open-carry while I ride a mountain bike down back roads to Florida.

Sir_Girth 2 points ago +2 / -0

You have time, fren. I am in no way in any position that could do what I want to do on the scale of the entire US. 🤣

If I were… nope, sorry. I stand by what I said. You’ll have to wait until we get our ducks in a row before you would be considered.

Sneak in anyway? Cool! It’ll give my ICE agents something fun to do. 😛

Neutral_admin 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'll just make sure not to bring a drill to a shooting competition, you will never know I'm not from there lol.

Sir_Girth 2 points ago +2 / -0

I like you! 💋

CaptainButthurt 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah I don't even view Trump as right or left but rather just straight American. He did things, for the most part, that benefited America at large. At least when his son in law wasn't in on the plans. America First ideology I don't think is right-left.

Sir_Girth 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, it’s not right-left. We’ve been trained to view everything through our own political lens.

Makes people think it is. If there was an America First Democrat I likely wouldn’t outright hate them.

I just want our government to put our country, and it’s citizens first.

Neutral_admin 0 points ago +1 / -1

The big thing is that the "left/right" thing doesn't really apply well to american politics, and is derived by who sat on what side of a monarch in france.

If there really was an american left right, the entire european left/right spectrum from commie to nazi would fit in a small space on the far left of that spectrum. But the US is about liberty and Europe never really was, outside of a few small pockets, which is why people left for the new continent in the first place and then revolted when they were denied their freedoms.

Sir_Girth 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s a good way to put it. I don’t pay that much attention to the politics of the EU, but I have had exchanges with many people who live there. (Or so they claim)

I agree it doesn’t really fit. The scales don’t match at all. The EU is much further down the road to Communism it’s wild. How anyone can say that Bernie or AOC are right wing on the scale the EU uses baffles me.

The US is based on a system that was a total rejection of the politics in Europe at the time. That’s why people left, and made this country. I would argue we improved the system. It’s too bad Globalism has infected the US system. They’re working to bring the US back in line.

Neutral_admin 1 point ago +2 / -1

I certainly hope they never bring the US back in line.

European history is a history of monarchs and dictators. They made strides with parliamentary politics, but that in and of itself is very rudimentary.

The separation of powers was a stroke of genius and is probably the only reason the US is still where it is right now. But that has been corrupted through the implementation of the administrative agencies, which puts way too much power into the hands of the Executive branch. This coupled with the use of withholding funding from the states if they don't follow said administrative rules (thanks to the 16th amendment which is what gave them the power to do this, financially)

The US needs to go back to most people not even being able to name the President, for him being so unimportant in the major scheme of things.

What is happening is painful for me to see, even if I'm not American, I'm literally in a location where I could perch a rifle on a railing and shoot into the downtown core of a major US city (not a threat, just establishing proximity), I've been steeped in American culture as far back as I have memories, and the US is my dream home. I hate seeing what is happening, and seeing it from a "bird's eye view" makes it even worse, as outside of wishing to be there, I have no emotional stake in any political party or narrative there, outside of what is being done to the Constitution in real time.

Sir_Girth 1 point ago +1 / -0

Where are you from? In a general, geographic, sense?

Parliamentary shit is why the EU is so corrupt in my view. Having to hear the wants and needs of countries that have nothing to do with your own would be exhausting. You can’t have a single government that controls everything. There are way too many variables that need considering. There’s no way it would work. The “data” in any given decision is infinite in that regard.

That’d be like Lefties in CA being able to dictate policies and laws in a state like… I dunno… Oklahoma. They don’t live there. Why the fuck would they have any say in what other states do? It makes no sense to me.

The separation of powers is definitely where the US got it right, but you are not wrong in that the conception of alphabet agencies undermines that idea. We’re living as if the President is a king. So, we are currently being brought back in line.

I don’t like to see it either. I’d rather not have to give a shit about who the President is. I’d rather be more focused on what is happening in my corner of the country. How it effects how I live.

The Constitution is one of the greatest documents ever written. I’m angry at how it is being treated, and has been treated, in the past few years.

You sound like you belong here. It sucks that your ideal is being attacked. I hate it too. Because it actually effects me.

Ellessargolden 2 points ago +5 / -3

😆 TRUTH. I used to fundraise for democrats and know ALL thier talking points. Now I piss off even my "right wing" family members. Trump is just an old school democrat reminiscent of JFK. My how the Overton window has shifted...

Sir_Girth 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah, being a former Leftist has made me very effective at debating them. It’s a big reason why I lost my support structure I had when I was one.

I just piss people off now. In the phase where I have to rebuild that structure with people who think like I do.

I think it’s funny that someone like JFK would be considered far-right now. I’ve been in many a debate where people think that fucking Bernie Sanders is right-wing. S’like… are you serious?! 🤪

trump1aj 1 point ago +2 / -1

Same here friend. If I were any further right I’d have a German accent

Bogey 23 points ago +23 / -0

The media has for decades praised young liberal voters for their intellect only to condemn the same voters when they get older and start voting rightwing.

Basic math and knowledge of human aging tells us how older rightwingers used to vote when younger.

ArizonaDesertRat2021 22 points ago +22 / -0

Dave Rubin was redpilled by Larry Elder

thekindlyman555 6 points ago +7 / -1

He began the redpilling process far earlier than that, when he left the Young Turks. He credits Ben Affleck for his stupid argument with Sam Harris on Bill Maher's show for really being his wake up call. He even dedicated his first book "Don't Burn This Book" to Ben Affleck (ironically.)

secession_please -8 points ago +3 / -11

I think Dave Rubin's job is make sure coservatives never do anything effective.

Keepidahofree 19 points ago +19 / -0

I came out of the cult and I don't even know how I rationalized any of it. My brain can't go back to being so stupid. I know too much. No idea how to be a person now actually. I just want to shake people to wake up

FightTheSWAMP 10 points ago +10 / -0

If you are like me.... it's easy to fall into that hole with about 15 years of indoctrination. I grew up in a red area but most teachers still went to a liberal arts school and are left leaning. Generally speaking,, the "higher education" the worse the teacher. If you only pay attention to your teachers and the msm it's easy to justify your position....although now that my eyes are open I just don't understand that thought process anymore.

ireallylikedogs2 2 points ago +2 / -0

We trusted them. They were college-educated. They taught us reason. They wouldn't lie to us, right?

It reminds me of the first episode of MegaMan. Wily believes Mega because "Robots don't lie.". He then escapes.

I suppose these communists used their positions of power to pull a 180 on us right after enforcing the "sources" and "Critical thought"

PelosiSux1776 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah I live in a blue area and if I say anything remotely conservative, I just get knowing knows. No one wants to speak up.

1984means1776 14 points ago +15 / -1

Lots of people missing the mark here thinking somehow this is right versus left. The left of 10+ years ago would be considered "far right" these days. IMO the left has as a whole moved far left into the commie zone. Normal thinking old school libs who were disgusted by what they saw are now grouped with the right. This fight is more about nationalist populism against globalist commies rather than right versus left.

GenericName0101 8 points ago +8 / -0

It is Massive Authoritarianism vs Don't Tread on Me. Doesn't matter what other labels people throw around. Left = Authoritarianism 1984 style. If you are against Orwell's 1984, you are not necessarily 'Right wing'

It is easier to demonize when you compartmentalize. That is what we are seeing right now.

Totally_Not_FBI 5 points ago +5 / -0

We're in the extreme clown world phase of the "revolution" where the commies push all kinds of degeneracy and lunacy as normal to upend society.

lord_nougat 1 point ago +1 / -0


drachennwolf 13 points ago +13 / -0

I was a big leftie in college. My views HAVE NOT CHANGED.

The parties have. Big time. The left used to be against illegal immigration and government intrusion. They railed against the Patriot Act and said that illegal immigrants were just cheap labor for the rich conservatives.

What the fuck happened??

FightTheSWAMP 13 points ago +13 / -0

I am among this crowd. I grew up with liberal parents. Between this and college, I thought I was more liberal leaning. I never paid attention to politics but I did not have a good impression of the GOP. I was 'independent' but always voted Democrat.

Then Trump came along...against Hillary. I'll admit that in 2016 I would have voted for anyone other than that cunt. In 2016 I went from Bernie to Trump.

My values haven't changed. Trump and the media opened my eyes to the evil that is the Democrat party. That being said, the GOP is evil too. I know why I never liked Bush, Romney, Ryan or any of these bullshit elitists.

I will never vote for another Democrat as long as I live. I still don't trust the GOP. I'm strictly voting for America First and those who cherish all the rights that we have.

HaitchElGee 3 points ago +3 / -0

You're literally me. I thought the Democrats were the good guys, and realizing that isn't the case has been a revelation. The GOP are clearly still shit, but I'm anti-big-government all the way. The world makes so much more sense now.

Codrus 10 points ago +11 / -1

But they are also the first to turn back because of friends, family or feelings

Sir_Girth 12 points ago +12 / -0

Not everyone. I haven’t. I’ve lost all of my support structure I had when I was in the cult.

I woke up a few years ago. I’m not going back. I was completely miserable in the Leftist cult.

PelosiSux1776 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not me. Had a relative not speak to me for a year for voting for trump. Also, got many mean comments from relatives for posting pics at a rally. I think they’re just brainwashed now like I was by the media.

ArizonaDesertRat2021 8 points ago +8 / -0

Dr. Charles Krauthammer was a leftie and became more conservative over time… https://www.charleskrauthammer.com/aboutcharles

PartandParcel 8 points ago +8 / -0

Former libtard here. In 2014-2015ish God finally knocked some common sense in me and gave me a massive red pill. My disdain for libtards runs deep cause I used to be one. I woke up, why can’t they?

AmericanBaseball 5 points ago +5 / -0

This was me. Driving in to work in 2016, listening to Joe Rogan/Alex Jones. Woke the fuck up and have never looked back, losing many friends and family along the way. Before dumping social media I would see the posts they would make about Trump supporters with many of them knowing full on I was one of them. To see things like “Trump is a nazi and you are too if you support him” really hurt when it’s coming from people who I used to respect. Was probably for the best as it allowed me to spend more time, focus and energy on my family.

The cult turned its back on me the instant they knew which side of the fence I was on.

Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +2 / -0

The bit about social media is exactly my experience, buried my dad in 2019 who everyone knew was a Trump supporter, I took up where he left off to honor his memory and support Trump in 2020 the way he would have loved. Then watched “friends” flame my entire family (mom voted Trump twice too) in the most offensive of ways, fuck every one of them.

Edit: I knew all reason was gone after 2016 when us supporters were becoming the target, a disgusting political move by commies.

Sir_Girth 5 points ago +5 / -0

I realized it after I learned more about the #metoo movement and feminism in general. I was one of those creepy male feminists. I believed in that with zero thought about what they were actually about.

My friend got hit with a #metoo thing within our friend circle. He’s not even based. It’s a way for Leftists to perform character assassinations on people they don’t like.

Feminists know the MSM will do it for them. All they have to do is make up unprovable hearsay nonsense, act like a victim, and the Media will treat it as proven fact.

That’s what happened to my friend. Just on a small scale. Needless to say my friend lost all his friends, his job, and his girlfriend at the time. His crime? He made one of the feminists in the circle angry. So, she destroyed his character completely.

It was a red pill I couldn’t possibly ignore. There have been many for me since then, but that was one of the first that got me to pay attention. Started thinking about why I believed what I did at the time.

There is no way I can go back, and even if I could… I wouldn’t want to.

OZ00MSTALLGEESE 5 points ago +7 / -2

Nope I was telling yall Slippery slope was real when you were approving of gay marriage back in the day, hope you enjoy your drag queen story hour fags

TAIWANNUMBERONE 4 points ago +4 / -0

And many more of them still are but try to tell everyone otherwise.

BasicKekinomics 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep, and we see it here.

"I'm a right wing conservative, but I love my government handouts and my union job. Promoting big government laws and regulation is the only way forward for our movement! Please help me spread the good word about universal income and universal paid family leave for every American citizen."

ed_shaw 3 points ago +3 / -0

The good news about universal basic income is go to hell.

BasicKekinomics 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's amazing to me that we have people on patriots.win that promote universal basic income even after living through the past two years and seeing what free money does to people.

ed_shaw 2 points ago +2 / -0

Same here. You'd think they had been reading the Democratic Underground, or watching Stephanie Kelton presentations on Modern Monetary Theory.

cbonez416 4 points ago +4 / -0

Its really not lonely or frightening. I too have lost friends and I don't talk with some family members now either. I even lost my job over not taking the authoritarian jab!! All bullshit and means nothing. I have come to the conclusion that we will not undo the brainwashing. They need reality to crash. Its coming. And they will try to blame you the capitalist for it. Even though they themselves broke it. It will wake many but not all. This is the moment we say look we warned ya. Been warning ya and we will still warn ya bc shit can get really hair. Like starvation hair.

gloriouschairmanpao 4 points ago +4 / -0

Very true. It’s dark tunnel, but well worth traveling.

ImmuneResponse 4 points ago +4 / -0

My ideals haven't changed. They used to call me a "classical liberal" or a "young outsider".

Now I'm a "far-right conspiracy theorist".


mshecubis 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was a liberal during the Bush years, and I still am.

Don't let the woke commie left take the title of liberal. There's nothing liberal about them. Liberals fight to protect people's rights, not strip them away.

lord_nougat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Liberal as in LIBERTY!

ed_shaw 1 point ago +1 / -0

You could be introducing a thread of its own. Are liberals really about individual rights? I mean liberals of the 40's 50's and 60's ? What they actually accomplish is mandated redistribution from the people to their constituents. Didn't they know they were as much as creating a cult? The Democratic political machines of Boston, New York, and Chicago .... is there anyway to describe other than a racket? When the excesses became unbearable, (1960's) they created victim groups and exploited hell out of them. Show me where I am wrong.

bigusdicus2020 4 points ago +4 / -0

facts. I talk to people on the left who are in complete denial about this. Most are too plugged into the matrix.

Panopticon 3 points ago +3 / -0

I wish we networked better. Would help with the lonely part.

HermitKidd 3 points ago +3 / -0

When the donald was on Reddit it helped open my eyes some more to the lies. Now I can’t go back.

ed_shaw 2 points ago +2 / -0

And when they squashed it just in time for the election, mine as well. I couldn't have imagined the nerve of 'em.

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FormerLibtard94 3 points ago +3 / -0

I’m in this picture 🐸

feedmepizzaseymour 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lost my best friend of 23 years because he found out I supported trump

What a cuck

MerlynTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is that her real name?

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MasterVader2U 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is deeply true.

Weallseethetruth 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm glad I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about me!! Lol

todiwan 2 points ago +2 / -0

I did not change that much. Politics changed. Labels changed.

I still want to help out the poor, I still dislike racists, I still think science is important.

It's just that the left no longer gives a shit about the poor, has become MIND-NUMBINGLY RACIST, non ironically more racist than the fucking Stormfront (except they have power), and they abuse "science" and lie about it.

I guess some things changed in small ways, but I'm just here because conservatives are far, FAR more bearable than most leftists. And are actually the correct side in the culture war. The way I describe myself is that I'm a leftie working hard to make sure the right wins the culture war because the left is literally genocidal.

javixpimraj 2 points ago +2 / -0

I registered to vote for the first time as an adult just to vote against George W. Bush, as I'd never been ashamed to be an American before. This was back when I thought the fight was between D and R.

My D President Obama woke me up from that. Now it was being a liberal that I'd never before been ashamed to be. The Republicans hadn’t gotten better, the Democrats had gotten far worse, and Hillary was obviously going to double down on everything bad that had happened to society during Obama. I was politically homeless for the 2016 election.

Within a month of the election though, I'd realized that Donald Trump was everything I'd ever wanted as a Democrat, that Democrats had never intended to give me. America First was just common sense. Scratching my head, as a solid Free to Be You and Me liberal, I've voted R ever since. The RINOs are identical to the Republicans I'd already been voting against, and I trust the RNC no more than I trust the DNC, but MAGA candidates have my full support.

I honestly expected the D's to regroup after the 2016 loss and bring up new leaders to capture the hearts & minds they's lost like mine. But nope, they're just batshit crazy communists now. You understand that Democrats used to be solidly patriotic and hate communists too, right? It used to be only the nutjobs. Now the nutjobs equal the party, so the hell with that.

DahnaldTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

I never really gave a shit what people chose to do but then they started pushing the most degenerate shit on the most helpless people and that’s when I started to care.

decafllort 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not quite the right framing. They haven't changed their beliefs. It's just that the Overton window has moved left. Remember, Trump was a lifelong Democrat until recently.

ClownHunter007 2 points ago +2 / -0

I grew up underneath Bush Jr.’s neocon ass & Obama’s race-hustling socialist ass and hated both of them. When I was 18 I decided to register as a democrat, but I was barely a democrat. I only registered as a Democrat because I thought Democrats were “liberal” - and I consider myself a “classical liberal”.

Once 2016 came around, I learned quickly that I ain’t a modern-day "democrat' nor their ideal definition of “liberal”...thats for sure. It’s only until recently that I found out that “classical liberalism” is a right-wing position apparently. So, I guess I was always “right wing”…I just didn’t realize it nor did I really care.

Honestly, that makes sense because I always thought of Trump was more of a old school 80's NYC Ultra-Capitalist Playboy. He was like the poster-boy of an liberal democrat icon back then. Now, he's "far-right"...because the Democrat party has gone so far away from 80's "liberalism". Knowing Trump's iconic history pre-presidential run, none of that feels "conservative" to me let alone "far right'. He’s just a pissed off ex-democrat. That’s all. He ran as a Republican, and he beat both sides.

Now, because he won, they’re pissed off at all of us who voted for him whether you are an ex-democrat (like him), a republican (who voted for him), a libertarian/classical liberal (who supported and voted for him), or just someone who was pissed the fuck off. Now, we got the great reset all because the elites are mad as fuck at all of us.

JohnniesTime 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wish I could comment, but I've always been super straight.

All1000wombats 2 points ago +2 / -0

99% of all the humans who have ever lived throughout all history would count as "right wing extremists" by today's standards.

Remember that. Your ancestors smile upon you.

75fleetwood 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s not frightening and lonely it’s liberating

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Dialectic 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’d rather be straight up fucking alone with a dog than be in their shitty, cringey death cult. I thank God for creating me the way I am. I may have a much more difficult time doing normal people things but when it comes to telling shitheads to fuck off it’s easy

FredRedd 2 points ago +2 / -0

This was the case with Krauthammer too, yeah?

GhostofPatrickHenry 2 points ago +2 / -0

No it's not. You instantly have rational, insightful, non-hypocrit, and loving Friends on the Conservative side.

DestroyerofCobwebs 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is true, but the problem we've got is that for every lefty we turn to the light, the school system creates two more.

Not to mention, there are certain types of leftists that are basically immune to seeing the truth because of decisions they've made. Drug addicts, abortionistas, petty criminals, the chronically lazy. They'll never see it, because seeing the truth would require that they admit the error of their own life altering decisions.

16Sherman 2 points ago +2 / -0

My wife and I are both registered Dems, once considered liberal, but the Left has taken over and sprinted away from us with the goalposts and we're now straight ticked GOP/Conservative voters. We still believe in some liberal ideologies, but they've molested these to the point they're no longer recognizable, they've lost us forever. They lost me years ago with CRT, equity, and other racist ideologies that I can never pretend are anything but racist. I spent a few months decades ago learning about the Frankfurt School, so none of this was new. When I was told objective thought, colorblindness, and punctuality were White privilege and racist terms I thought they were kidding, they weren't, and this was from PhDs to a PhD, twice doctored, so they weren't even able to hide behind their self-aggrandizing claim of intellectual superiority. I no longer hide my beliefs and will call out illogical arguments based on reputable premises, typically emotional feelings and biases, and we've lost some neighbor friends, but we've gained the support of far more, and that's saying something because we live in a very wealthy and liberal part of Bethesda, MD. The trick is navigating this world today with kids, I have two, 11 and 13-years-old, and we spend hours every weekend reprogramming them to show them the value of logic, objectivity, merit, integrity, the outdoors, our natural born rights and legal protections protecting them, etc. Teaching a boy that it's ok to fail, that we use those failures as motivations to learn from them and do better, 5hat second place is an acheivement, but also first place of the losers, that not much is worth anything on this world without the struggle to acheive it, just tons of realities that they're being told are wrong today. When I taught my kids that not everyone can in fact be anything in life, that some people simply are too stupid to be chemical engineers, etc., their initial reaction was that I was mean, cruel, wrong. I wanted people to fail in their eyes. It took months before they truly understood the nonsense they've been programmed to believe, but theyre awake now, although, they realize it's not always wise to disagree with some on everything when opinions are now literal the identity of some people. Identity politics, where the person decides their political beliefs then allows that to form their identity. Such an assbackward way of living life.

toasty867 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe they are just weak. It doesnt take this much just to change your views if you srent retarded.

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BoomShtick 1 point ago +1 / -0

I disagree for the most part. Its the centrists of yesteryear that were added to the ranks of the “right wingers”. The left became the centrist fence sitters.

Will 1 point ago +1 / -0

Our very fine Salty Cracker was once a card carrying leftist. They don't just walk away when they're red pilled. They run.

PB_Mack 1 point ago +1 / -0

How much courage does it actually take to stop being a dumbass liberal. I mean..you just have to start exercising common fucking sense.