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posted ago by Firesky ago by Firesky +613 / -6
  • you will work but foreigners will benefit from your labour (Leviticus 26:16)
  • you will be ruled over by people who hate you (Leviticus 26:17)
  • your leader will not care for you, will oppresss you and will enrich himself (Zechariah 11:17)
  • you will flee from your enemies in defeat (Deuteronomy 28:25)
  • your children will intermarry with foreigners (Deuteronomy 28:32)
  • foreigners will be superior to you in your own country (Deuteronomy 28:43)
  • women will become selfish (Deuteronomy 28:56)
  • your people will dwindle in number (Deuteronomy 28:62)
  • violent foreigners will enter your land (Jeremiah 5:15-16)
  • violent foreigners will prey on your sons and daughters (Jeremiah 5:17)
  • there will be widespread confusion (Deuteronomy 28:20)
  • foreigners will enjoy benefits while you are oppressed (Deuteronomy 28:33)
  • what you own will be given to someone else (Deuteronomy 28:31)
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Firesky [S] 36 points ago +41 / -5

It's all biblical, folks.

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CommunistHunter 40 points ago +42 / -2

According to the book of judges, the remedy is to repent, turn back to God, and start building armies and training assassins.

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Honkey_McCracker 14 points ago +14 / -0

Deus Vult

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19American62Woman 8 points ago +8 / -0

Indeed

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LoobintheToobin 6 points ago +6 / -0

Jeremiah 3:13 (NLT) Only acknowledge your guilt. Admit that you rebelled against the LORD your God and committed adultery against him by worshiping idols under every green tree. Confess that you refused to listen to my voice. I, the LORD, have spoken!

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Standingoak 3 points ago +3 / -0

Same script , New Characters. ... .. But God still wins.

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Shayhawk 13 points ago +13 / -0

The ENTIRE federal government.

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Drewski1138 17 points ago +20 / -3

These were all specific warnings for Israel as God’s covenant nation. That covenant was broken repeatedly by Israel, and we are under the New Covenant bought with Jesus’ own blood. We are in an age of Grace wherein Israel has been set aside, but will be grafted back into God’s “tree” at a later time (See Romans 9-11 detailing all of this, Israel’s past, present, and future redemption). Couple specific notes:

  • Women have always been selfish. Part of the curse is that “her desire will be to her husband.” Literally the woman will want to be in charge.
  • All those references to foreigners….uh….hate to break it to ya pal, but we’re foreigners in context of Scripture, Gentiles.

Unlike what others have said here, the solution is not to build armies and raise up the next Crusade. Our job is to be salt and light in a dark, rotten world. (See Matthew 5). Our job is to show God’s love to a lost world, win them to Christ, and let God’s redeeming, preserving, enlightening power do the work to change our communities.

So….who have you told about Jesus lately?

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docdarling 8 points ago +9 / -1

Oh wow. Somebody sane.

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CommunistHunter 7 points ago +7 / -0

I’m sorry, but God is the same today, yesterday, and forever. We are not to turn a blind eye to evil. Loving your neighbor requires defending them from evil.

I see an awful lot of Christians today who do not understand what love is. Love is not a feeling, it’s not letting your children do what they want, and it’s not letting your enemies oppress your neighbor.

Communists killed one hundred million people in the twentieth century. We count on God to provide us what we need, yet we go to work every morning. Faith without works is dead, and despite common belief, sharing of the gospel is but one duty we have to glorify God.

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Drewski1138 3 points ago +3 / -0

I never said God isn’t the same today. He very much is. His character and power remains consistent for all of time, but the ways in which He deals with humanity today are vastly different than when the Law was written. Even before the Law, God dealt with men differently. Corporal punishment and killing and eating of animals was not a thing until after the flood.

God has slowly revealed more and more of Himself to man until Christ came to fulfill the Law that humanity could not, due to our sin nature. You are partially correct about love. It’s not just a feeling. Truest love is demonstrated by action, but not just any action: giving, self sacrificial giving. “For God so loved the world that He gave…” “Greater love hath no man than this, than a man lay down his life for his friends.”

Loving your neighbor means giving, being the antithesis of a world that takes and takes and takes. Loving your neighbor does not mean bashing them over the head metaphorically with a Bible, or literally even. “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, that ye love one another.”

I used to be very confrontational, argumentative, antagonistic, especially on Facebook with friends who think and believe differently. I found that I wasn’t winning anyone over by being hostile and zealous for what I believe in. I was just being a dick. Is there a time to stand and fight? I believe so yes, in defense of our loved ones and country. Does that give me permission to go off half cocked and start shooting commies? No.

I do agree that we are called to do more than share the gospel. We need to be salt and light in other ways as well, lead in our communities and make our voices heard for truth.

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CommunistHunter 4 points ago +4 / -0

For what it is worth, the original comment was made in half jest. I believe strongly that the Christian men of our nation need to stand up, out of love, and fight back.

Going off half cocked shooting commies is not what is being discussed, zealously defending our families, neighbors, and nation is.

We are also called, I believe, at least here in America, to reward good, punish evil and serve as God’s ministers, as the people are the governing authorities in America. We are given a lot of tools to do this. I can expand on it later as I am at work - but there is no doubt in my mind.

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Bluridgegirl 5 points ago +6 / -1

Thanks for the perspective Pede! God is truth, God is in charge!

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Drewski1138 3 points ago +3 / -0

My pleasure! I always hope to add some clarity and accuracy when I see these well meaning but inaccurate posts.

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LoobintheToobin 5 points ago +5 / -0

The law still Applies to us too: “But you are not the only ones with whom I am making this covenant with its curses. I am making this covenant both with you who stand here today in the presence of the Lord our God, and also with the future generations who are not standing here today.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭29:14-15‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Matthew 5:17-20 (ESV) 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

If the populace turns to God and repents of their evil We could be done with this as soon as tomorrow, but that is very unlikely. Leviticus 26: 14-45. I think we are about to see the famines and war section in this downward spiral of non repentance. There are rumblings of understanding which is good, but not enough to change the path so far.

“Then my anger will blaze forth against them. I will abandon them, hiding my face from them, and they will be devoured. Terrible trouble will come down on them, and on that day they will say, ‘These disasters have come down on us because God is no longer among us!’” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭31:17‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Ezekiel 2:5-7 (NLT) 5 And whether they listen or refuse to listen--for remember, they are rebels--at least they will know they have had a prophet among them. 6 “Son of man, do not fear them or their words. Don’t be afraid even though their threats surround you like nettles and briers and stinging scorpions. Do not be dismayed by their dark scowls, even though they are rebels. 7 You must give them my messages whether they listen or not. But they won’t listen, for they are completely rebellious!

“And who can win this battle against the world? Only those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God.” ‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:5‬ ‭NLT

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michelleobama22 2 points ago +2 / -0

excellent post

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sordfysh 5 points ago +6 / -1

And zero quotes from Isaiah?

You just picked out the Jewish laws which God gave the Israelites to prevent them from taking on other gods. What about the law against eating pork or the laws against endless debt? Not interesting to you?

If you want to see that we are being punished, the book is Isaiah, not Deuteronomy nor Leviticus.

In Isaiah, the people were worshipping foreign gods and storing up great wealth while sacrificing their own children and letting the widows and orphans beg on the streets.

The reason this is important is because we need to see what pisses God off. Right now, I see a lot of immigrants who more faithfully follow God than Americans. Israel forsaked God, so God used gentiles to spread the Gospel. Watch how foreigners and immigrants spread the Gospel you should have been living.

If you don't melt down your idols and return it all to God, the new gentiles will be closer to God, and God will leave you behind. On the other hand, if you follow Jesus, your descendants will be blessed.

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LoobintheToobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think both scriptural locations are applicable for discovering what God likes and doesn’t like. “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.” ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3:16-17‬ ‭ESV‬‬

I find Leviticus 26:14-45 to be a good encapsulation of the consequences of idolatry and not following God’s laws.

Lots of great sections in Deuteronomy as well. The op highlighted consequences that are occurring but didn’t discuss the why and I’m guessing that’s what unsettled you?

Leviticus 26: 14-45 Deuteronomy 28: 15- 68 Deut 29: 14-15 rest of chapter Deut 30 a call to obey, what God does if we do or don’t obey 31. God predicts the response: 17,20-21 32. The song of Moses: recap of previous chapters. Moses gets to see what’s coming but not enjoy it because he hit the rock and disobeyed God. New Testament references 1 cor 10: 1-24

Highlights: ““But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you: “The Lord will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me. The Lord will make the plague cling to you until He has consumed you from the land which you are going to possess. The Lord will strike you with consumption, with fever, with inflammation, with severe burning fever, with the sword, with scorching, and with mildew; they shall pursue you until you perish. The Lord will strike you with the boils of Egypt, with tumors, with the scab, and with the itch, from which you cannot be healed. The Lord will strike you with madness and blindness and confusion of heart. So you shall be driven mad because of the sight which your eyes see. The Lord will strike you in the knees and on the legs with severe boils which cannot be healed, and from the sole of your foot to the top of your head.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭28:15, 20-22, 27-28, 34-35‬ ‭NKJV

The most tenderhearted man among you will have no compassion for his own brother, his beloved wife, and his surviving children.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭28:54‬ ‭NLT‬‬ Sample: https://greatawakening.win/p/12jwR1T2co/what-is-going-on/c/

“If you refuse to obey all the words of instruction that are written in this book, and if you do not fear the glorious and awesome name of the Lord your God, then the Lord will overwhelm you and your children with indescribable plagues. These plagues will be intense and without relief, making you miserable and unbearably sick. He will afflict you with all the diseases of Egypt that you feared so much, and you will have no relief. The Lord will afflict you with every sickness and plague there is, even those not mentioned in this Book of Instruction, until you are destroyed. Though you become as numerous as the stars in the sky, few of you will be left because you would not listen to the Lord your God.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭28:58-62‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Applies to us too: ““But you are not the only ones with whom I am making this covenant with its curses. I am making this covenant both with you who stand here today in the presence of the Lord our God, and also with the future generations who are not standing here today.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭29:14-15‬ ‭NLT‬‬

“And all the surrounding nations will ask, ‘Why has the Lord done this to this land? Why was he so angry?’ “And the answer will be, ‘This happened because the people of the land abandoned the covenant that the Lord, the God of their ancestors, made with them when he brought them out of the land of Egypt. Instead, they turned away to serve and worship gods they had not known before, gods that were not from the Lord. That is why the Lord’s anger has burned against this land, bringing down on it every curse recorded in this book.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭29:24-27‬ ‭NLT‬‬

““Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, so that you and your descendants might live! You can make this choice by loving the Lord your God, obeying him, and committing yourself firmly to him. This is the key to your life. And if you love and obey the Lord, you will live long in the land the Lord swore to give your ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭30:19-20‬ ‭NLT‬‬

“Then my anger will blaze forth against them. I will abandon them, hiding my face from them, and they will be devoured. Terrible trouble will come down on them, and on that day they will say, ‘These disasters have come down on us because God is no longer among us!’” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭31:17‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Isaiah is a great book too. Isaiah 8:11-13 (ESV) 11 For the LORD spoke thus to me with his strong hand upon me, and warned me not to walk in the way of this people, saying: 12 “Do not call conspiracy all that this people calls conspiracy, and do not fear what they fear, nor be in dread. 13 But the LORD of hosts, him you shall honor as holy. Let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.

Isaiah 27:11 (ESV) When its boughs are dry, they are broken; women come and make a fire of them. For this is a people without discernment; therefore he who made them will not have compassion on them; he who formed them will show them no favor.

Isaiah 28:5-6 (ESV) 5 In that day the LORD of hosts will be a crown of glory, and a diadem of beauty, to the remnant of his people, 6 and a spirit of justice to him who sits in judgment, and strength to those who turn back the battle at the gate.

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bobobob 4 points ago +4 / -0

Human nature hasn't changed since biblical days. We like to fool ourselves into thinking we're different because we have smart phones and smart watches, but we're still the same people driven by the same temptations.

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LUXURY_USERNAME 3 points ago +3 / -0

Very solid sermon about this exact topic from last week, a bunch of 9/11 stuff I had no clue about, even Jan 6 lines up with the biblical signs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDyDYqc35Xk

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HanginChad 2 points ago +11 / -9

It's a big book. You can find anything about anything especially if you use short quotes out of context.

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Lt-Aldo-Raine 11 points ago +13 / -2

When I read the title I thought the same thing.

That's not the case. The idea of rebellious nations turning their back on God and being terribly punished is a theme that occurs over, and over, and over again throughout the Bible, especially through the books of the Prophets.

The theme goes something like this: 1) God, through the prophets, warns Israel or the other nations to turn back to Him and repent, which they don't. 2) God severely punishes the nations for rejecting Him. 3) God gives the nations hope of restoration through faith in Him.

This is not some minor out of context point here. This is a major theme in the Bible, again, all throughout the Prophets.

If you'd like a starting point, I'd suggest Isaiah, but really, any of the prophets, major or minor, reinforce and repeat this theme.

God very well may destroy America before rebuilding her again in his image. We have to account for that possibility.

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HiddenDekuScrub 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Fourth Turning: Ancient Edition!

History really is cyclical. Only in the past thousand years or so did people start thinking differently, but has anything really changed all that much? It's definitely worth a pondering.

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BigDickTurner 0 points ago +1 / -1

It seems unfair to punish the faithful as well as the faithless, making no distinction between them. Its not like I can make the trannies take their dresses off and stitch their dicks back on

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AlbertSnow 4 points ago +4 / -0

This won't be a popular take, but here it is anyway... if we were faithful like we claim to be (and I claim it as well), we would never have let it get this far. We stopped standing up for God a long, long time ago.

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BigDickTurner 0 points ago +1 / -1

As a nation, it's a fair point. As individuals, I'm not sure what more I could have done to try to stop this. That said, my life is of course not without sin. So the saying that fits best here is, imho, "There is no fury more righteous than that of a sinner accused of the wrong sin."

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Lt-Aldo-Raine 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is a perfectly valid observation and one that inevitably comes up when the faithful are being subjected to the worst the world has to offer.

First, we're told that God uses these trials to help purify and refine our faith. My favorite scripture on this comes from James, likely the brother of Jesus:

"Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything." James 1:2-4

For me personally, there's a different motivation. As Christians, we are called to share the Good News of Jesus Christ. To share the freedom, the peace, the confidence that comes from knowing our future is secure with as many people as we reasonably can. This means not just sharing the Gospel during easy times, but more importantly, during the most difficult times when it matters the most. I think this is one reason God has us suffer the worst of the world along with everyone else. He's given us a mission!

Just think of the horrors endured by the early Christians under Nero, and persecution of Christians today in China. The Church underwent explosive growth in the first century, and is undergoing that same growth in China today - all in the face of incredible persecution. The faithful have paid and are paying a great price, but the faith is reaping great rewards. I believe this is God's plan.

In the end, of course, this suffering will be over for us once and for all, thanks to Jesus' work on the cross.

"...He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” Rev 21:3-4

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BigDickTurner 0 points ago +1 / -1

To be fair, the worst the world has to offer seems to be other people.

I've not an abundance of faith in the scripture I'm afraid - but I've more than my share of wild 'coincidences' too, and I thank you for taking the time to reply at length. The things I actually do believe, missing as they are some critical elements of Christianity, will surely make me a heretic of some kind. As pure-hearted a heretic as one could be, perhaps, but a heretic just the same.

Nevertheless, I recently bough a Jefferson Bible. I reckon that it's either a good compromise, or a step in the right direction, depending on where you think I'll end up.

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Lt-Aldo-Raine 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think you're doing the right thing by keeping an open mind, studying, and testing and questioning yourself and your relationship with God. I didn't grow up in the church and didn't become a believer until I was 36, almost middle-age. And that's all I did. I just kept an open mind and kept searching, and then God answered me one day, praise the Lord, and changed my life. I just said a brief prayer and asked God to bless you and your journey.

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BigDickTurner 0 points ago +1 / -1

Thank you, it's genuinely appreciated.

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LoobintheToobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Job 36:15 (NLT) But by means of their suffering, he rescues those who suffer. For he gets their attention through adversity.

Job 36:21-23 (NLT) 21 Be on guard! Turn back from evil, for God sent this suffering to keep you from a life of evil. 22 “Look, God is all-powerful. Who is a teacher like him? 23 No one can tell him what to do, or say to him, ‘You have done wrong.’

Job 37:13 (NLT) He makes these things happen either to punish people or to show his unfailing love.

“For God does not show favoritism.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭2:11‬ ‭NLT‬‬

“My suffering was good for me, for it taught me to pay attention to your decrees.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭119:71‬ ‭NLT‬‬

Jeremiah 45:3-5 (NKJV) 3 ‘You said, “Woe is me now! For the LORD has added grief to my sorrow. I fainted in my sighing, and I find no rest.” ’ 4 “Thus you shall say to him, ‘Thus says the LORD: “Behold, what I have built I will break down, and what I have planted I will pluck up, that is, this whole land. 5 “And do you seek great things for yourself? Do not seek [them;] for behold, I will bring adversity on all flesh,” says the LORD. “But I will give your life to you as a prize in all places, wherever you go.”

Ezekiel 14:22 (NLT) Yet there will be survivors, and they will come here to join you as exiles in Babylon. You will see with your own eyes how wicked they are, and then you will feel better about what I have done to Jerusalem.

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BigDickTurner 0 points ago +1 / -1

You will see with your own eyes how wicked they are, and then you will feel better about what I have done to (leftist institution of any kind)

This suddenly makes more sense to me if I swap just that one term. I'm not sure I even want to see how wicked they really are.

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Firespawn 5 points ago +5 / -0

Downvotes, for him speaking the truth. Simpletons.

The bible is full of cross references for this very reason. It's how you fully interpret the word.

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Powhattan 2 points ago +4 / -2

God hates shrimp . Com

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LoobintheToobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Job 34:3-4 (NLT) 3 Job said, ‘The ear tests the words it hears just as the mouth distinguishes between foods.’ 4 So let us discern for ourselves what is right; let us learn together what is good.

1 Corinthians 2:14 (ESV) The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.

2 Peter 3:16-17 (ESV) 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. 17 You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability.

The more one knows the Bible, the harder it is to be misguided by out of context usage. Which totally happens.

Though the undertaking of reading this particular book bears risk to the former self, as one may find themselves instead of reading, bring read. For this is no ordinary book.

“For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:12-13‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

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jonrockets 2 points ago +2 / -0

The destruction of our country is immanent, prepare accordingly. God help us.

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Shayhawk 1 point ago +1 / -0

You spelled "planned" wrong.

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TheEnclave89 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wow, those are good points, it seems people have always known what happens when you surrender your spiritual and national authority.

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Greyhound69 1 point ago +1 / -0

yeah, and god punished new orleans with katrina.. god won't lift a finger to help but he sure will punish the fuck out of his "children"

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michelleobama22 1 point ago +1 / -0

yea we arent jews or israel, your choices are cherrypicked and non applicable

keep reading tho😇

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M8kMdlErthGr8Again -1 points ago +1 / -2

That's not the way it works.