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sgt_richard 254 points ago +254 / -0

'never have to worry about gas prices again'

Ya but we're going to fuck you per mile you drive anyway. - .gov

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IncredibleMrE1 162 points ago +162 / -0

Never mind that you'll need a diesel generator to recharge your EV when you get stranded.

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pushbackv2 170 points ago +170 / -0

Never mind that China has twice the CO2 emissions of the US, but no one cares because science and US bad.

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DinosOnNoahsArk 89 points ago +89 / -0

Electric vehicles are cool, from a technical perspective, but when you talk about replacing all vehicles with them, it's not hard to understand that it wouldn't only be an environmental nightmare, it would be an overall nightmare.

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pushbackv2 81 points ago +82 / -1

They're counting on that.

Make it cool. Make it hip. Incentivize it. Ostracize those who aren't "doing their part" and aren't with the program. Ramp it up from ostracization to dehumanization. Pump up the numbers. Censor accurate reports on the logistical nightmares. Inflate the demand. Paid actors. More incentives. Downplay criticisms. Attack their authors.

Nobody does nightmares like the globohomo reigme.

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SordidPontification 34 points ago +34 / -0

It's almost like it's the same playbook they've used successfully on the masses with COVID, the vaccines, the list goes on...

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DroolingElmo 29 points ago +29 / -0

Electronic cars are easier to control. You don't have enough social credits to drive right now, please return to your home.

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pushbackv2 18 points ago +18 / -0

Non-compliance detected.

Manual controls disengaged. Enabling auto-pilot.

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Parhelion12 18 points ago +18 / -0

You have arrived at your education facility.

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DroolingElmo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Which is why all my cars are pre-1995

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freeamerica4ever 13 points ago +13 / -0

The only people they can push this on is their own, but the only people Buttplug says he wants to buy are rural people and poor urban people. Plebmobiles.

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BillGateCanSuckIt 5 points ago +14 / -9

All electric only vehicles suck. The hybrid gas/electric ain't to bad.

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pushbackv2 18 points ago +24 / -6

Stop enabling this faggotry and stop making concessions.

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resoluteAction 20 points ago +20 / -0

Electric is more expensive and more pollution. Those are basic facts. The cost could be brought down if everyone bought them but if you count the cost of the electric grid vs petro distribution, electric will always be orders of magnitude more expensive and less reliable. If electric was better then airplanes would be electric.

Electric vehicles equals more control for the oligarchs and taxpayer funded improvements to the electric grid that the oligarchs want to enable an AI and robot revolution.

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DemsHaveNoHomeHere 3 points ago +3 / -0

Bootyjizz

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labiator 0 points ago +1 / -1

not much use for towing

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CrankyCrank 11 points ago +11 / -0

Exactly where is everyone supposed to charge when there is actual market penetration? The charge duration is going to be a logistical nightmare.

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sleepinggiant 5 points ago +6 / -1

At your home at night when your sleeping....like your phone

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Parhelion12 4 points ago +4 / -0

What about us reptilians that do not require sleep?

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M8kMdlErthGr8Again 3 points ago +3 / -0

While you are eating children then.

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resoluteAction 4 points ago +4 / -0

And people that routinely drive more than 300 miles daily? Not to mention the batteries don't work in high and low Temps.

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Junionthepipeline 2 points ago +2 / -0

Look that's not important the important thing is the big guy and a few others make that ten percent.

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CrankyCrank 2 points ago +2 / -0

yes because you never drive a lot during the day, long distances or outside of the city.

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IlhanOmarsFagBrother 7 points ago +7 / -0

These people expect there to be a charger along the curb every 15 feet in the next two years. Fucking lunacy.

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tree_sloth4 3 points ago +3 / -0

Better buy a 20 mile extension cord!

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keepamericagreat102 6 points ago +6 / -0

Pete Buttgag is literally ass fucking entire nation, I'm sure it's intentional and not a coincidence.

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was thinking about that. Right now our local Hy-Vee has maybe two charging stations. Will parking lots have to be full of charging stations? Seems like this will be more detrimental to the environment in many ways.

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DinosOnNoahsArk 7 points ago +7 / -0

That's a concern, but a bigger one is the power required to rapidly charge these cars in mass. It's not like you are charging your cell phone. These batteries require incredible power to charge.

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ConstutionalCarry 4 points ago +4 / -0

power required to rapidly charge

Don't worry. They'll only recharge about 30miles per hour. It's one of the nice things about electric vehicles as compared to gas vehicles. It only takes you hours to recharge instead of the inconvenient <5 minutes gas cars take. It makes every recharge a special occasion.

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akira2501 3 points ago +3 / -0

A lot of people don't realize that fuel pumps are limited to 10 gal/min by law. You could certainly run the pumps even faster.

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bidensmissingbrain 13 points ago +13 / -0

because science...bad

How DARE you disparage our great lord dr faccini!

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linereddit 6 points ago +6 / -0

Maybe, Faucholini?

Easy to say, rhymes the right way, I like this.

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Ballind 8 points ago +8 / -0

There is no way I'll believe that China only produces twice the CO2 as the US. Easily 10x

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KekistanPM 5 points ago +5 / -0

Exactly what a woke co-worker ranted to me about over lunch one day. It's all our fault China has so much pollution because we consooooooooooom from them.

It's not China's fault for their pollution regulations, it's not our fault for buying imports...it's our inherent desire to consume that they ranted about.

When I asked him whether China should tighten up their environmental regulations, he shrugged the question off. Because US bad.

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daty_dato 3 points ago +3 / -0

Most don't give a fuck about Climate change. It's a useful tool to enrich themselves and to push for population reductions..

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Bazzellle 26 points ago +27 / -1

I have been thinking about the whole needing a gen for your electric car.

Perhaps this is another step in their plan to isolate people. Covid arrived and they stopped people from traveling long distances to see families.

Electric cars means you keep folks controlled in areas. Maybe? Just a thought.

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 26 points ago +26 / -0

Exactly this.

My wife has family that we drive out to visit. The trip is 9 hours of driving but it beats flying. If we take a small car, we usually fill up twice. Truck? 3-4 times. Assuming we get a Tesla, we would end up looking at 2-3 charges on the drive out. We would need to find a Tesla supercharger in order to even make it worth it (200mi or so of range in 15 minutes). Here’s the deal, our drive takes us to the middle of bumfuck where you aren’t going to find that infrastructure. This would completely change our ability to drive out to visit them.

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HockeyMom4Trump 6 points ago +6 / -0

I hear you. My family goes on numerous road trips. Clearly, the elite making these policies fly everywhere and have little concept of the realities of road travel.

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KekistanPM 4 points ago +4 / -0

Didn't the Green New Deal call for abolishing air travel?...at least for us plebs?

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FuckingWiseCracker 2 points ago +2 / -0

And, as an added bonus, people like us, the Purebloods, cannot fly either because we don't have a COOF/Social Credit passport. Total control for the powers the (shouldn't) be.

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Sylvester1212 10 points ago +10 / -0

Or a false cyber attack or EMP to stop them all.

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ThisIsMAGAcuntry 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah if all the infrastructure is there. Also explain to me how charging a battery is going to compete with filling up with gas in terms of time?

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ThisIsMAGAcuntry 2 points ago +2 / -0

No doubt you are correct on all those points. Now add the cost/affordability of each vehicle. Then estimate the logistics required to run and maintain however many millions of these things rn.

I get that they are the future. I don't get your point of arguing their benefit over even X2 the price of fuel at this point in time. I think this thread alone shows enough anecdotal evidence to suggest we aren't ready for mass adoption just yet

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SHILL_DETECTOR 20 points ago +20 / -0

nevermind that it catches fire, burns down your house, and kills you in your sleep

never have to worry about anything ever again

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HockeyMom4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

Clearly these people do not do too many road trips. They probably fly everywhere and have no idea what it is like to drive cross country.

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Ladybug87 64 points ago +64 / -0

Same people who claimed, just a few short months ago, that many people in this country can't afford to get a drivers license so they can vote, are the ones who try to convince us now that those people will just magically be able to afford electric vehicles. 🤡 🌎

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tyrantsgetthescope 24 points ago +24 / -0

They give government phones away to every poor person on the planet there will be government issued EV’s in a decade and you’ll pay 75% taxes

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okboomer59 20 points ago +20 / -0

You will own nothing. You will use an app to summon an autonomous EV, if your social credit score is satisfactory. And you will be happy. Or else

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Retard_Strength 14 points ago +14 / -0

don't forget the bugs. you will eat the bugs. in your pod. bigot.

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Goldsteinbergsky 24 points ago +24 / -0

And never be able to travel more than a few miles from home! And, as an added bonus, you get to spend 8 hours recharging your shitty e-car so you can get back home! Hurray!

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M16A4 12 points ago +12 / -0

But it drives itself !!! And is eco friendly

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TDAF 5 points ago +5 / -0

If it drives itself, a driver's license will be optional. Sorry, voter ID laws.

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bobobob 1 point ago +1 / -0

The battery packs degrade over time and eventually render the car worthless and destined for the crusher. So eco-friendly!

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 11 points ago +11 / -0

Where I live, they refuse to install charging stations (apartments, not worth buying property in this shithole state). I mean they even removed all of the external power receptacles. I can’t even detail my own car since I can’t find an outlet to run an extension to my carpet shampooing machine.

You either need to use the charging stations at your office or locate a charging station in a shopping center parking lot and then walk or find a ride home. We also have a massive homeless drug addict problem, so you run the risk of having your car broken into and used as a shoot-up spot if you leave it unattended. Oh and my company is basically only allowing pre-approved personnel on site to begin with, so even if you do drop by the office, you can’t go inside while your car charges. You have to basically sit in it until then. Defeats the purpose.

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HerbertBailBondsh 7 points ago +7 / -0

Can they retrofit a solar cell array on the roof to collect and recharge the batteries as they drive?

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altYPNeT 4 points ago +4 / -0

The Cybertruck was rumored of having such an option on the bed cover. But solar panels on the roof of any EV will just add a few miles per day. If you go camping for a week and let it sit there, it'll recharge somewhat if it's not cloudy, but other then this application solar panels on the roof won't do much of a difference for daily driving.

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sleepinggiant -1 points ago +2 / -3

Uhhh i have 300mi range and have made coast to coast trips no problem....why are people defending 4 dollar a gallon gas...i d9nt get it.

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ThisIsMAGAcuntry 8 points ago +8 / -0

You don't get it because you have tunnel vision and aren't looking at all the factors, other people's situations.

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Brucesky420 34 points ago +35 / -1

Do people not realize the majority of the power to our grid comes from non renewable energy? The price of electricity will still go up as the price of oil, natural gas and coal continue to go up, especially for the charging stations that run on generators 🤣

Not to mention just about every other industry in the world heavily relies on these sources of energy, gas prices make everything you buy more expensive to produce and deliver.

These people think oil is only popular because we like polluting the planet, but the reality is it's popular because cheap and accessible energy has literally changed the world more than anything else. The moment we were able to distribute energy all across the land it sent the developed world into hyperdrive. The amount society has advanced because of it is exponential. The industrial revolution couldn't have boomed like it did without it. We have computers in our pocket and internet at our fingertips thanks to what we've been able to do with oil and coal

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Friendly_B 7 points ago +7 / -0

Maybe some of them, but I would assume the majority are just ignorant.

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Kolob 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yep like the biofuel proponents who don't realize fertilizer is manufactured with petroleum

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Imransgarage 4 points ago +4 / -0

Haha no they don't care if we rot they are happy to see it.

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Friendly_B 2 points ago +2 / -0

"You love to see it."

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AgamemnonContingency 11 points ago +11 / -0

People really need to learn this. A tractor can do the work of 80 farm animals like oxen simultaneously around the clock if so needed. Oxen are only work or food livestock too so low return on that investment. All with one operator. You don't need to feed and water them. To do the equivalent work in that period you would need easily 5 times the animals to account for rest. Even if you could harness and rig that many animals yourself, your food output would have to exceed their feed requirements, and that's assuming you are trying to grow something they can eat. Since it takes time to grow, you need to stockpile that feed, so you can't sell that first harvest until the next one comes in. The arrival of oil has freed massive amounts of labor in food production. Increasing yields per farmer to such insane degrees that wjat used to be the vast majority of labor I'm EVERY country is now a small sector. Even steam requires fuel on board, people to stoke it, operators and maintainers on hand, and we built steam tractors to. The fact that you can now dump 3 fluids in between fields, diesel, grease, and oil, and have that same reliability and function as what took entire teams in the past is why the modern world can exist.

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okboomer59 8 points ago +8 / -0

Those pushing the Green New Deal (while buying oceanfront mansions) understand this. The smoothbrains who actually believe that man-made emissions are causing natural disasters do not

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AmericanMan00 7 points ago +7 / -0

Electricity fuel distribution according to our own eia, depends where you live but Natural Gas is pretty dominate.

If your interested in planetary science and processes you may come to the conclusion that our planet makes an abundant supply of Natural Gas.

Renewable?

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okboomer59 6 points ago +6 / -0

EVs are a less-efficient, more expensive way of using fossil fuel to power cars

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logan34 10 points ago +10 / -0

THESE FUCKERS are salivating at the chance to charge you PER MILE carbon taxes. Fuck these commie scum!

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pushbackv2 102 points ago +103 / -1

If they can normalize the greatest election steal in history, they can normalize the fucking retarded Green New Deal.

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GlacialSpeed 49 points ago +50 / -1
  • Vote counting was halted the night of the election in many swing states with no reason given or fake reasons supplied (water main, just toilet overflow)
  • Hundreds of eyewitnesses gave testimony at multiple states' legislative sessions detailing the election crimes
  • Video evidence showing concealed cases of ballots being pulled out and scanned repeatedly in Georgia after the poll watchers were removed due to the "water main leak".
  • Voters identified as indefinitely confined to illegally receive absentee ballots even though they are young and healthy
  • Ballots for voters under the age of 18 were counted
  • Voters submitted multiple ballots in the same state or across multiple states
  • Voters submitted ballots in states they do not live in
  • Poll watchers illegally removed from polling places for questioning fraudulent vote counting
  • Absentee ballots counted even though voters never requested or filled them out
  • Vote counting machines had overridden vote selection percentages above 60% in some counties, and FAR above normal ranges in many others
  • Vote counting machines had the overridden vote selection logs wiped for 2020, but previous years' log data was still there

The 2020 Election Was A Complete Fraud

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substantialmajestic 9 points ago +9 / -0

What a nice list. There is so much that it's hard to keep track or recall it readily. Thank you.

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TrustTheTruth 4 points ago +5 / -1

The real question everyone should be asking is this:

Why did Mayor Pete make the final pitch for Biden before the election, and why of all places, did he make it in Racine, Wisconsin?

Racine is the Root and model for the real Agenda, including Agenda 21 and 2030, and the transportation Agenda.

Biden also rigged a billion dollar referendum in Racine in the April 2020 primary.

Zuckerberg used Racine as the gateway district to rig Wisconsin and the swing states.

Georgia, Arizona and other states are connected to Racine through secret societies and corrupt political groups including the New Deal Leaders.

Ask Stacey Abrams and Elena Parent, and Mayor Pete.

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giggitybooped 10 points ago +11 / -1

Just give Arizona two more weeks and you'll find out!!

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MasklessMarvel -8 points ago +1 / -9

so?

it's over and there is nothing we can do about it

we have stopped voter fraud

quit wasting our time with this whiny doomer bullshit

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GlacialSpeed 3 points ago +3 / -0

Disagree

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JesusWept 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you came home from work and found your neighbor had forged your name on a deed and moved into your house, would you say "it's over and there's nothing I can do about it"?

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

this is totally different

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Darkheartisland 11 points ago +12 / -1

The last new deal impoverised a generation of blacks. Same old playbook for them I guess.

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South_Florida_Guy 101 points ago +101 / -0

Because nothing else in life or the economy depends on the cost of fuel whatsoever

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IncredibleMrE1 62 points ago +64 / -2

You are not properly understanding "6uild 6ack 6etter," komrad. Now report yourself to the nearest gulag for reeducation.

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pushbackv2 11 points ago +11 / -0

You will be assigned to sleeping camps based on your social credit score.

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Build_Back_Bankrupt 7 points ago +7 / -0

Build Back Better, I do not think this means what you think it means.

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MasklessMarvel 7 points ago +7 / -0

it's going to suck mowing my lawn with a scythe

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thallos 1 point ago +1 / -0

Doesn't the cost of electricity depend on gas?

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FuckRedditMAGAMAGA 62 points ago +62 / -0

I wonder how they're going to generate all that electricity

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slimcoat 67 points ago +67 / -0

gay sex

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SPEZ_CUPS_CCP_BALLS 14 points ago +14 / -0

With Barry as the engine

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ATK69 6 points ago +6 / -0

Lots and lots of power bottoms.

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pushbackv2 13 points ago +13 / -0

The Electricity Fairy.

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DinosOnNoahsArk 7 points ago +7 / -0

The Coal Fairy

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LemonTree 9 points ago +9 / -0

To be fair, the plug should be removed from the electric car. And the GREEN car should be powered by wind and solar only.

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pushbackv2 5 points ago +5 / -0

Only a matter of time until they start calling that plug the butt plug.

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okboomer59 4 points ago +4 / -0

Named after the Secretary of Transportation?

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Whoopies_tds 5 points ago +5 / -0

Electric eels

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +3 / -0

squadrons of hamsters

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CommieCucker 56 points ago +56 / -0

The only way electric cars make any sense is if your juice comes from a nuclear power plant

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Bigpersonguy 38 points ago +38 / -0

And if i can charge it to full as fast as filling up my gas tank.... Lol in the article they pitch it to rural folks. A rural farmer doest have time to take a 4 hour break a few times a day while his truck charges

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CommieCucker 19 points ago +19 / -0

That's the part that threw me.....lol rural folk here. Their take on electric is pretty much ass-backwards. Electric is good for the city, a la short distances, not for forty mile round trips. This is all about forcing us to fund their secret investments by strong-arming us into switching from what we already use.

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PraiseBeToScience 6 points ago +6 / -0

There's no way in hell I'm taking an electric car into northern Nevada. It's literally 200 miles between gas stations. You need at least ten gallons of fuel if you don't want to die. Ten gallons is 250 to 300 miles in a space of just a few cubic feet. I can't fit 300 miles if extra range in my trunk.

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Dr_Fauci 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is all about forcing us to fund their secret investments

Ding ding. P.s. we need more boosters. My shares aren't high enough!

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akira2501 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's great, if you have zero plans to leave that city. Want to go on a vacation with your family? Nope. Want to take a day trip to the surrounding area? Nope. Want to lend your car to someone else so they can run some errands? Nope.

It's purely a limitation strategy.

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MasklessMarvel 8 points ago +8 / -0

we like to drive across country to visit family members- about 1000 miles

with the time it would take to charge the car, that trip would take like five days

the farmers are going to love having to stop working for four hours to recharge their tractors

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okboomer59 4 points ago +4 / -0

Dr Emmett Brown has entered the chat

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CommieCucker 3 points ago +3 / -0

The hero we need, but not the hero we deserve

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Plugthegamey 3 points ago +3 / -0

In Florida. Have nuclear 👍🏻

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CommieCucker 1 point ago +1 / -0

Florida keeps sounding better and better....

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logan34 2 points ago +2 / -0

And they dont magically decide to start charging you per mile you drive taxes because they can.

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Icepck 2 points ago +2 / -0

LFTR technology!

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bitchlasagna 35 points ago +36 / -1

Yep. I bought one, and sold it. I would get to my wage slave location OK and home OK in the summer, but with like 10 miles left on the charge.

In the winter? I couldn't keep the glass defrosted it takes too much electricity. I would get home with 0-1 miles left on the charge and would have to give up driving anywhere for lunch. On the coldest days I dare not even drive the thing.

After that horrible experience I went back to gas guzzlers because fuck them.

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-jjjjjjjjjj- 23 points ago +23 / -0

I went to a Tesla store once. They have kiosks where you can punch in things like your daily commute, where you live, etc. and it will give you information about the expected range and so forth.

When you set it to a Midwestern winter climate, Tesla's own kiosk was saying the expected range will drop 40-50%. That's what their own marketing was telling me, so its probably the absolute best case. I laughed and walked out of there. Who the fuck wants a car that promises 300+ miles of range, but will give you at most half of that when it gets below freezing?

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pup1pup 13 points ago +13 / -0

I'm impressed they didn't just lie.

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MasklessMarvel 4 points ago +4 / -0

i think I will buy a trailer

fill it with batteries

charge them for free at a charging station

and go make money helping stranded drivers

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DinosOnNoahsArk 3 points ago +4 / -1

But if we just allow government to steal our money through inflation, then donate that money to "science" by granting communist professors with billions and billions of dollars to "research" green energy for 40 years, they might have a breakthrough!

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ThisIsMyTruth 1 point ago +1 / -0

high fuel prices or high electricity prices? Seems like a lose lose proposition.

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NavySTG 21 points ago +21 / -0

Can they haul a horse trailer?

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Overlord 29 points ago +29 / -0

For a 100 miles and then you have to charge for an hour at a supercharger that doesn't have any pull through options.

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-jjjjjjjjjj- 13 points ago +13 / -0

And 100 miles of range at a fast charging station will cost you more than 100 miles worth of gas. And don't forget high-current, high voltage DC chargers like Supercharger exponentially degrade your car's battery life. The faster you juice it up, the more wear on the battery. So, you can look forward to your EV having half range within a year or two.

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okboomer59 4 points ago +4 / -0

a supercharger powered by fossil fuels

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zuccherina 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol. You've thought of everything. You would not make a good politician.

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Heavens2MAGAtroid 6 points ago +6 / -0

I can't see how trucks that need to tow things will ever be electric.

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Eatinglue 15 points ago +15 / -0

I’m a farmer and it would be impossible for us to be full electric. Charging time means you’re not harvesting, and we can go like 14 hours/day. Sometimes we have to go 24 hours because winter is coming and you can’t harvest some things in the snow. High horsepower digging tractors would use an INSANE amount of electricity.

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-jjjjjjjjjj- 5 points ago +5 / -0

The amount of electricity isn't an issue. Huge digging and hauling equipment (the type used in open-air mines) has been electrically driven for years, sometimes decades. Its just that the electricity is generated onboard by a diesel engine. We use that because its more efficient and more robust to have the diesel engine running at a constant efficient RPM to generate electricity than it is to have the diesel engine supplying power directly.

The problem with full electric work vehicles like farm tractors is the batteries. You can't put enough batteries on them because the more you add the heavier it becomes and the more power you need to move the heavier vehicle, etc.

Even if you used the cordless tool model of having tons of swappable batteries sitting on chargers waiting to be used when the current one dies, you'd need literal tons of batteries to get through a full day and then you'd need an enormous amount of electrical power wired to a farm (good luck getting a high current line run to a rural farm) to charge them all up again.

Its not practical and the cost of the batteries alone would make farming unprofitable in almost all cases.

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2008RonPaul2012 4 points ago +5 / -1

Let's just starve people systematically then. Problem solved.

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freeamerica4ever 3 points ago +3 / -0

Eat less, comrade.

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SurrenderFreeman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, that's where hydrogen power comes in. They put those in city busses because they don't care about the weight. But it's impractical to put them in regular vehicles

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invalid_data 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can see how people not wanting a company watching their every car move and them having full control of your car even after purchase is a massive reason to never switch to electric.

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Build_Back_Bankrupt 4 points ago +4 / -0

No, but enough horses could. And you don't have to worry about gas prices!

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Build_Back_Bankrupt 3 points ago +3 / -0

Whoa whoa, I got these horses from China, they're lower emission equine transportation animals, though they do smell funny and they have black and white stripes, which I thought odd, but hey I'm doing my part.

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +3 / -0

yes and when the batteries are dead you can just hitch up the horse

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jollybygolly 3 points ago +3 / -0

for the first part of the trip. for the last part you get the horses to pull you.

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NADSAQ 1 point ago +1 / -0

ah, equity

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Buck_Fiden 17 points ago +17 / -0

Plugging in you electric vehicle will now be called "docking". (Do not look that up on UrbanDictionary.)

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +3 / -0

chinese penis "handcuffs"

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LiskaEman 3 points ago +3 / -0

As someone who knows a bout docking already (without having to look it up in the dictionary lol. I don't remember how/why/etc the subject came up but it had) your post is absolutely hilarious.

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Groundpounder 13 points ago +13 / -0

Just as they hand over the Afghan lithium mines to the CCP. For the Big Guy.

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-jjjjjjjjjj- 12 points ago +12 / -0

These people really are clueless. Poor rural resident who drives 100 miles each way? Just buy a $50,000 EV with a 300 mile range that's actually more like 200 miles under real driving conditions and is actually 100 miles when temperatures are below freezing. Yeah you'll have to sit and wait for 3 hours to charge it, but you can use that time to forage for bugs for dinner because all the farmers couldn't afford diesel and electric tractors are better known as paperweights.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

Poor rural resident who drives 100 miles each way?

it's well worth a ten hour commute to save the earth

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-jjjjjjjjjj- 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why don't farmers just work from home like the rest of us?

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

they sorta do

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JS_Mill 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've never met an electric car owner who earns less than 80k/ year.

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FLIBS 11 points ago +11 / -0

What a moron. This administration sees us all as their personal social experiment.

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BlacknWhite 3 points ago +3 / -0

Social extermination*

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YT45 10 points ago +10 / -0

I wonder if Petey Buttplug is actually dumb enough to think that electric power magically falls out of the sky, or if he just thinks everyone else is that dumb.

Electricity comes from four sources: coal, oil, hydro, and nuke. Solar and wind cannot meet large-scale demand, and they never will, either. Since they’re trying their damnedest to shut down all the nuke and hydro plants, that just leaves coal and oil. So yes, Petey, you dick-smoking manlet, owners of electric vehicles most certainly do need to worry about gas prices, because gas prices will affect electric bills.

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preferredfault 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's worse. They hide the actual inefficiencies of electricity. Over 66% of electric energy is lost in some way shape or form by the time it reaches the meter in homes. That's not even including the losses from electric conversion within devices themselves, which has even more losses. For example, a 300w PC with an 80 bronze power supply, will pull ~360w from the wall.

The fact is, physical gas in a vehicles tank, is more efficient than turning it into electricity. No loss in transmission. No losses in electrical conversions.

To top it off, electric vehicles have a higher carbon footprint from construction than gas vehicles....soo much so, that it takes YEARS of the use of that EV in order to even break even with a gas vehicle + its gas usage, assuming the average miles driven per year, which I think is higher than actual reality anyways.

And again, none of this is actually considering those huge losses in energy from power plant to plug.

The actual difference in emissions isn't all that great. After 200,000 miles driven, the real final total metric for carbon emissions is 68 tons for the EV, and 78 tons for the gas vehicle. And that's not even including a battery change! While 200,000 mile isn't the end of life of a vehicle, I would consider this to definitely be the starting territory for the EOL of a vehicle. In fact, AARP considers 200,000 to 300,000 to essentially be the general accepted EOL mileage of vehicles.

So the truth is, in the end, after ALL this trouble, we're only reducing carbon emissions by 13%. Throw in a battery change in the cars lifetime, and that evaporates entirely.

BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE! Since EV's cost more, guess what? You need to produce higher carbon emissions to make the money to pay for it! OOOPS! That's enough to wipe out that 13% and MORE. That's one of the biggest factors they ignore....if you have to pay more for something, you're devoting more work hours to paying for that thing, so making that extra money to pay that extra cost, has its own fucking carbon footprint!

That's still not even considering the carbon emission cost of making the money to pay for another battery after the first one wears down. Average EV battery costs $6,500. How much carbon emissions are created doing the work needed to make that battery and make the money needed to pay that $6,500? Quite a bit, enough to pull the EV wayyy ahead of a gas vehicle in total final carbon emissions.

So there you have it. EV's actually have a higher carbon footprint than gas vehicles, no matter how long you drive them, because they won't be able to offset the carbon footprint by the time the vehicle has surpassed its maximum end of life mileage!

It's all a fucking scam.

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CA-Refugee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Learning about inefficiencies in energy distribution is why I have postulated to classrooms I've attended before that solar farms should be salvaged and sold to individual homeowners at a discount, along with installation of inverters connected to the existing energy grid. You get the benefit of solar energy with next to no inefficiency due to resistance over a long distance, and the excess energy can be passed off along the current lines with a shorter distance. It's like having a botnet of generators.

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Kolob 3 points ago +3 / -0

He is dumb enough. My aunt worked on his campaign. She was an English major and is smart about that kind of thing, but her math skills are horrible. She really believes all this stuff. the STEM branches of the family are not so gullible.

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Joequill 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pete isn't stupid. He knows damn well what a steaming pile of shit all of this is.

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559throw 8 points ago +8 / -0

"The people who stand to benefit most from owning an EV are often rural residents who have the most distances to drive"

That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard him say, and he's fuckin retarded

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard him say

i am sticking with racist highways

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Cdope45 8 points ago +8 / -0

Tesla has one of the worst grades for reliability according to consumer reports. We don't have the infrastructure to to charge these cars and the grid is already taxed without EV.

Rolling brown outs are already a problem in California. Good way to get stuck during a wildfire.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

Tesla has one of the worst grades for reliability

spontaneously bursting into flame probably influences that score

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wethedownvoted 8 points ago +8 / -0

"Recent polls have shown that the Transportation secretary has high favorability and name recognition amid speculation he may once again make a bid for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2024."

what are they smoking

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GuerillaYourDreams 8 points ago +8 / -0

His dick.

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MasklessMarvel 6 points ago +6 / -0

a faggot transportation secretary who takes maternity leave for a month to fake titty feed a baby while the country suffers from a supply chain crisis is just the guy we need

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Forbidden_outcast 2 points ago +2 / -0

He would be the ultimate virtue signal vote

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fistful-of-hollers 7 points ago +7 / -0

No just turn off your car if your not vaxxed or you vote wrong or support the 2nd amendment and on and on it goes.

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mainsoda 6 points ago +6 / -0

High favorability for the Buttgig? Seriously? The gay guy that just took off 3 months to adopt and breast feed an unfortunate child during a terrible supply chain emergency?

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YOLOSwag_McFartnut 5 points ago +5 / -0

Then you just get raped in electricity prices and the added fees to your registration.

I drive a Volt so I can get fucked in both holes.

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Grady_Wilson 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Commies are especially pushing for all EVs in states like The People's Republic of Kalifornia where electricity prices are outrageous.

So, you either get bent over at the pump or you get bent over on your electric bill and your registration fees with the per mile BS the Left wants to pass.

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MajorClark 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hunter was paid 30M from a Chinese Energy Co., then Brandon closed down the Keystone Pipeline. 10% to the big guy. I wouldn't buy one of those cars since the main shareholders are people like Nancy Pelosi, the arsonist.

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GreyKnight 5 points ago +5 / -0

Even from their viewpoint, it is an absurd oversimplification. The people who save the most are those who drive the most distance at the slowest speeds, usually in stop and go urban traffic, that have accessible chargers and low electricity cost or for their “green” view, near a hydroelectric damn. Electric vehicles are not practical in every location, for every climate, or for every combination without even getting into production and battery issues.

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +3 / -0

basically the are only good for moderate length commutes in urban areas with charging stations

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thisisatestof2 5 points ago +5 / -0

In the article they said something to the effect of the people who will benefit the most are people who live in rule areas in underserved city areas. Now, for electric vehicles to work the best, you need your own parking space or garage space to charge them overnight. That is not really possible in cities where parking is at a premium and much of it is street parking or rural areas where you have long distances to travel with little to no infrastructure in between to recharge said vehicle, especially in cold weather or hot weather when air conditioning is needed.

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-jjjjjjjjjj- 4 points ago +4 / -0

EVs lose about half their range in freezing conditions. Most rural parts of the US have long winters and people drive a lot of miles everyday. Commutes don't get shorter just because its cold. EVs only make sense if you can make your entire trip on one charge. That's not the case for many rural residents in the winter months.

EVs make sense for suburbanites who drive 20 miles a day in heavy traffic, park their car at an office park or parking garage and then drive 20 miles home and leave the car in their garage.

For everyone else, its gas or nothing.

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thisisatestof2 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is exactly my feeling as well. If your commute is about 40 to 50 miles round-trip daily at most EV’s makes sense

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

they are going to benefit people in rural areas the most?

are they going to put charging stations in the cornfields?

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Junionthepipeline 2 points ago +2 / -0

Be lucky they dont nationalize them for the people soon

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gaijin_ronin 5 points ago +5 / -0

AIDS HURRY UP

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WinnerChickenDinner 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wars are fought with gas guzzlers.

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htowngetdown 2 points ago +2 / -0

and over gas

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goat_nebula 5 points ago +5 / -0

He claims rural areas need them most. Horse shit that’s where EVs are least effective. Not gonna be enough charging stations and those white rural areas will be served last. Also, EVs are terrible in inclement weather or towing/hauling any kind of load. Fuckin retarded.

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nautilus 4 points ago +4 / -0

Except the Dems are pushing for a by-mile tax. Any electric vehicle with a decent range is priced as a luxury car, so once again the Dems are helping the wealthy and not the average person.

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TGNX 4 points ago +5 / -1

They do have to worry about government remotely shutting down their vehicles, however.

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Powhattan 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nope. Just the government taxing you by the mile.

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Crappydatum 3 points ago +3 / -0

Stop worrying about gas prices

START worrying about blackouts, brownouts, electricity "surcharges", additional "fees" because you're not paying gasoline taxes anymore, three year battery life, explosions while charging, running out of juice at inopportune times, like when a hurricane is coming. The list goes on, and on, and on.

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jennyfrutex 3 points ago +3 / -0

Spoken like someone who has no idea how much fossil fuel is involved in making those electric cars and charging stations.

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BoughtByBloomberg2 3 points ago +3 / -0

There's 2 charging stations for >200 cars here. Fuck this butt munching faggot and his faggot bum pirate butt buddy.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

maybe drivers can get really long extension cords

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CommieCucker 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because batteries are easy to produce and electricity is cheap to generate 🙄

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Crisis83 3 points ago +3 / -0

CO2 taxes on electricity production incoming... And they will be much bigger than the taxes levied on gasoline and diesel.

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ah yes, electric vehicles. The closest charging stations to me are at my office and outside the local pharmacy. I’m not leaving an expensive electric car outside of a pharmacy (in an area packed with junkies) and walking home.

Much easier to just go to the gas station and fill up the truck over the course of 5 minutes.

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Snoman 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, let’s allow the Academic Planners to run shit.

Run it all into the ground..

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QSWO1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Production, and distribution of electricity will have to be more than doubled. That is at least another trillion bucks the consumer/taxpayers will be forced to pay. That does not include charging stations. The current production, and distribution of electricity does not meet today's requirements for everyday life without EV's.

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ChicagoforTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

What about brownouts? Lets say just ten percent of US residents switched to electric vehicles this year, do you really think our power grids could handle it? Think about California's power grid that is already on the brink of failure. Imagine all the people that couldn't get to work because of brown outs.

They want us all in EVs because with smart electric meters then can shut off your electricity with a push of a button. You visit the donald.win? You are a domestic terrorists. No electricity for you.

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HighVoltage 2 points ago +2 / -0

If we get brownouts, that means its working.

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thegeeseisleese 2 points ago +2 / -0

There’s hardly any EV recharge stations near rural areas so good luck driving home after going anywhere. Also, you’ll be charging up your EV on your electric bill so that’ll jump up just as much as gas. Oh and we’re charging you by the mile now since we can’t collect gas taxes obviously. Oh and your car’s battery never breaks down and is worse for the environment than your gasoline powered car ever was.

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SBOJ_JOBS 2 points ago +2 / -0

More expensive car and depreciation (battery for a Tesla = 10-12 thousand $)

  • parking space (if you don't own one now)

  • charger

  • electricity (which will go up with renewable sources and increased demand)

  • home-owner's insurance (extra fire risk of charging huge exotic batteries)

  • per-mile taxes to offset gas tax

Equals:

Much more expensive transportation and cost-of-living. You may shift some of the cost to taxpayers, but unless you are a deadbeat, then you are the taxpayer who will pay + all that waste between your tax payment and your "green" refund.

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ALCOloco 2 points ago +2 / -0

So gay...

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mikethemarine 2 points ago +2 / -0

yes just electric prices, and they are all invested heavily

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TenchuStealthAss 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm just curious, what credentials got him elected Transportation Secretary? What does he actually know about transportation?

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MohaveSkipper 2 points ago +2 / -0

Democrat

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EvilGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0

These guys have no business running a country.

They are just fucking incompetent and the media are happily running cover for them and not asking the most basic questions.

What do we do about these people? Firing squads?

Since a large percentage of road building budgets come from gasoline taxes what happens when people aren't buying gasoline?

How do people charge those vehicles cleanly when there are no reliable forms of green electricity and most comes from burning coal or natural gas?

Etc

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monkeycat2010 2 points ago +2 / -0

I live in an urban area and have looked at electric cars, especially those cool kind of motorcycle cars like the Carver. I would be more than happy to get one.

However, the building I live in does not have ready electrical ports in the garage. Some residents have put them in at their parking spaces to the tune of several thousands of dollars and a million $ insurance policy for any property damages to the common area.

Until the govt starts insisting that multi unit buildings have charging ports for all its residents, this is bullshit.

I am certainly not going to buy a car I have to sit at a Walgreens charging all afternoon because I cannot/will not afford to put in a space specific port in my parking garage.

I guess the govt, with their incredible large heads up their asses, didn't give one thought to the urban lifestyle and multi unit building issues. Here they think they are going to force us all into living in multi unit dwellings in the city, but apparently didn't make any provision for retrofitting these buildings with charging ports. Idiots

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SisterCovfefe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wonder if there's grant money available for those type of projects in the new infrastructure bill.

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SteveBannonsNckbeard 2 points ago +2 / -0

Dont these run largely on coal generating electricity? What happens when the cost of generating said electricity goes up?

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cbonez416 2 points ago +2 / -0

And how are those electric prices? How about electric car prices? How about WHERE do we get this said electric to charge said EV? All pipe dreams. They are robbing us.

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LtPatterson 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't want a fagmobile electric car.

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SocialJudgmntWarrior 2 points ago +3 / -1

"If we can make the electric vehicle less expensive for everybody, more people can take advantage".

The only people who believe that statement are leftist commies.

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Anyone 2 points ago +2 / -0

Guy is a faggot morron.

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