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Snoman 144 points ago +145 / -1

The lessor of 2 evils, that’s the word around here.

CaptainButthurt 161 points ago +161 / -0

Choosing evil still results in evil...

Amaroq64 14 points ago +22 / -8

Many of us once thought Trump was the lesser evil. Some (libertarians) still do.

Snoman 7 points ago +10 / -3

Trump the lessor evil compared to who ?

Amaroq64 23 points ago +25 / -2

Hillary. At the time, I believed the (Ayn Randian) libertarians that Trump is going to be good on some days and evil on others depending on which way the wind blows that day, but it's better than Hillary's pure evil and the Supreme Court also hanging in the balance.

I believed a number of the false things we were being told about him for a year or two after he was elected, though I still defended him against Obama's running coup attempt.

Handshake1 24 points ago +30 / -6

When are you people going to snap out of this Odumbo coup bullshit? Odumbo isn't and never has been in charge of shit, he was more of a puppet than Joey.

It's the top five richest family's in the world who call the shots on EVERYTHING. Most are ex-royal family's and just because they've lost their titles doesn't mean they don't still hold their money and money is all powerful.

Get a clue.

Falling_ferret 20 points ago +22 / -2

Baby, it's Satan and malevolence in charge of this world. Biden, Obama, Soros, the 5 richest families... they're just pawns (some willingly) to evil's whims. Money? It's nothing. Money isn't power, power isn't even power.

Once enough people realize Who overcame it all, then we get to put the world back together.

Read the founders' enough and you start to get the idea that most of them believed and loved a certain someone who isn't talked about nearly enough anymore...

Therightisright -23 points ago +2 / -25

Ya ya ya, one true god, everyone else is evil, blah blah blah. Religion is such a racket. The gold plated Vatican really screams “money isn’t power”

Handshake1 -24 points ago +4 / -28

Baby? LOL 😆 yeah you lost any and all credibility right there.

If you think this is some spiritual ooga booga bullshit going on and not driven by certifiably insane people seeking money and power. You seriously need to check into the nearest mental health facility.

Have a nice day/evening Pumpkin.

Dfalt 4 points ago +4 / -0

They also have a certain affinity for red shields if you know what I mean

johnrambo 2 points ago +2 / -0

The only power bathhouse barry is is a power bottom. I still can't believe people think that puppet or even the kkklingontons are in charge. There's a much higher power.

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markolbb 12 points ago +12 / -0

He did direct the ATF to make an end-run around congress to reclassify bumpstocks and binary triggers as MGs. I love Trump but he wasn't perfect, although definitely not evil.

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Amaroq64 8 points ago +8 / -0

Libertarians and Ayn Randian Objectivists (I'm the latter) believe some of Trump's policies are big government and therefore he's kind of a socialist, so he's therefore not much better than an actual socialist. (I disagree with them on this, I think he's a hero who nonetheless has some flaws.)

They believe he's a "pragmatist with no principles" therefore he will be unpredictable and inconsistent and his decisions will be random.

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everyman 8 points ago +8 / -0

More of what the media was pushing. If you didn’t have the_donald in 2016 you really had no idea what was going on.

10MeV 14 points ago +14 / -0

To this day, facebook automatically bans, won't even let it post, any link that has patriots.win in it.

Complete censorship works, unfortunately. The left has so locked out conservatism that even when I suggest any conservative sites to friends they're already programmed to reject the source out of hand. "Breitbart? Hah! Right wing loony conspiracy site spreading lies.".

Patriots.win? Hooo boy... most of my friends won't look at this place, not a chance. And yet this is the first place I come when news is breaking. It's a mixed bag here, tbh, but this is the only place I find people looking behind the curtain!

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MasterChef 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think they didn't like his stance on using terrifs as a leveraging tool. To be honest I was against it until he used it so well.

Snoman 1 point ago +2 / -1

No shit, some folks thought Trump was the lessor evil vs. Killary ? Interesting, I’d expect damn near everyone was already on one side or the other at that point.

AHonkTooFar 4 points ago +4 / -0

You'd have to be a retarded libertarian to believe he's a lesser evil, the man has done way more for the cause than any other in decades. And he exceeded his promise to repeal two pieces of legislation for every one new one he implemented, ofc that's just 'boring details' as far as some are concerned.

He was yuge for conservatives and libertarians and all inbetween.

gillonba 2 points ago +3 / -1

The difference is that Trump was never an evil of any kind and those people were wrong from the beginning. Opposing child sterilization is not wrong. Do you agree with child sterilization?

TheMemeSpiceMustFlow -3 points ago +8 / -11

Change happens in increments. You're not going to go from lefty-communist Ds straight to principled America-First conservative Rs in a single election. Going to require a lot of lefty-commist Ds going to moderate Ds and moderate Ds going libertarian or RINO R.

conservativeyuppie 18 points ago +20 / -2

Yeah keep convincing yourself that that'll work.

The_End_Arrives 12 points ago +12 / -0

Been hearing "conservatives" say this since the 90s and nothing has improved since then.

TheMemeSpiceMustFlow 7 points ago +7 / -0

"Conservatives" haven't done much since the 90s either. Of course things don't get better when good people do nothing, never said that isn't true. Just pointing out that not fighting because you can't immedately get the results you want is just an excuse for being lazy or a coward.

zuccherina 4 points ago +4 / -0

The difference is people are choosing to do something about it now.

gloriouschairmanpao 5 points ago +6 / -1

If it didn’t, almost none of us would be here.

XXandXYNoExceptions 9 points ago +9 / -0

Change happens in increments.

I'm very familiar with the Slippery Slope, thank you very much, and all I can see this does is enable it.

TheMemeSpiceMustFlow -2 points ago +1 / -3

What are you proposing the alternative is? If conservatives don't vote then you're just ensuring that candidates move further and further left.

Snoman 4 points ago +4 / -0

Negative, MAGA can leverage their vote against the RINO’s to get them in line in the ways that matter.

TheMemeSpiceMustFlow 0 points ago +1 / -1

Of course, especially during primaries, but on election day you usually only have three choices, D, R or third party/no vote. Not voting just ensures thing move more left.

Snoman 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let’s forget about the not voting aspect, and apply pressure on the Primary. Then instead of MAGA voting for the lessor of two evils the eGOP and Independents are.

It’s really that simple..

HeavyMetalPatriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

If I believed in a poltiical solution - which I don't - I'd suggest starting a MAGA party. Fuck the Uniparty.

CanadianFren 7 points ago +7 / -0

The only change happening in increments is us giving ground to the Marxists. We have NEVER gained ground we just keep losing it and then celebrate that we didn't lose ground as fast as the commies want us to.

TheMemeSpiceMustFlow 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agreed. Not say that isn't the case, just pointing out that not voting because neither candidate is acceptable is just making things worse. Everyone needs to vote.

Snoman -1 points ago +1 / -2

Your looking at it wrong, instead of a no vote, MAGA can leverage their vote to get the RINO’s in line

TheMemeSpiceMustFlow 1 point ago +1 / -0

Of course, especially during primaries, but on election day you usually only have three choices, D, R or third party/no vote. Not voting just ensures thing move more left.

GodSaveTheWest 3 points ago +3 / -0

Youre not going to slowly stop a flood with a bucket.

TheMemeSpiceMustFlow 3 points ago +3 / -0

Of course. That's the reason we are where we are in the first place. Change doesn't happen automatically either. The majority of "conservatives" have done little to nothing in the past 70-80 years. If enough people speak out change will happen, but it will take time. Not voting isn't going to help make anything better.

GodSaveTheWest 3 points ago +3 / -0

Never said to not vote, just dont expect it to work. The cultural/societal rot is too deep, it needs to be cut out. The constitutional american voter base (white christians) is dying out and not having enough kids while being replaced by dem voters. Entire generations have been raised as degenerates and brainwashed to be commies.

I think nothing short of revolution will save america. Happy to be wrong though.

TheMemeSpiceMustFlow 1 point ago +1 / -0

If people can't even be bothered to vote, why would they want to participate in a revolution? Both have the same barrier to success, not enough people care enough to be involved. Perhaps at some point in the future elections will no longer be held and a revolution will be the only option, but at least for the time being if enough people are willing to fight a revolution then enough people will be willing to vote to win elections.

GodSaveTheWest 1 point ago +1 / -0

Winning elections isnt enough if we are choosing between 2 shit candidates. Elections will only matter if america first candidates run and it isnt rigged against them. Otherwise its just delaying the inevitable.

i still vote for the lesser of 2 evils. But i cant help but consider accelerating since i see no end point but war, and id like to fight it instead of putting it off on my children or grandchildren.

basedvirginian 16 points ago +20 / -4

Can I get a “nah I’m good time do some ‘gardening’” option plz?

ShanghaiJoe 14 points ago +14 / -0

and that's why we are losing. We are still following the wrong people around. We can't accept a lesser of two evils anymore.

BillionsAndBillions 8 points ago +8 / -0

The fact is, politics attracts people with no principles. It attracts power-hungry narcissists.

Handshake1 6 points ago +6 / -0

Look at the medical definition of Narcissistic personality disorder. Then look at 90% of politicians and people holding public offices from the bottom to the top. Then see how many symptoms they check off....

We normally sane people are being ruled by certified and provably insane people.

Really sad when you realize how literally true what I just state is reality.

becray5 8 points ago +8 / -0

Slowly kill you are do it suddenly. Never give in and let them just go all out, then revolt.

Smokethewoke 88 points ago +88 / -0

It’s just gonna all play out, and those of us who survive it will start stuff over again if God wills it.

Inquisitor_Corvus 36 points ago +37 / -1

That’s pretty much how it goes for the little people.

AmericanJawa 30 points ago +31 / -1

If it's a game of 'survival' I put better odds on God just bringing about the end times.

Philhelm 40 points ago +42 / -2

"Fuck 'em."

  • God 11:3
NoahGav 12 points ago +12 / -0

That's always been my favorite bible verse.

Philhelm 8 points ago +8 / -0

Name checks out.

sixfingerdildo 2 points ago +2 / -0

I said I wouldn't do it again, but damn. Damn! Transgender children?! Damn!


sordfysh 5 points ago +6 / -1

I don't think we are seeing the end times just yet. The signs haven't been fulfilled in Revelations, yet.

So instead of thinking it's all coming to an end, remember that the Kingdom of God is eternal, but also current. How have you been living as a citizen of the Kingdom of God? Have you loved your neighbor as yourself? Like your physical neighbor. Jesus was clear that you aren't supposed to just give to everyone. How are your physical neighbors doing? Is your church one body, or are there members you have forsaken?

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Smokethewoke 2 points ago +2 / -0

He is certainly more patient than I am.

AmericanJawa 1 point ago +1 / -0

Being all knowing and all powerful probably helps.

KAGMAGIC2020 14 points ago +16 / -2

best solution imo is a semi-divided nation. Red states and blue states separate but share interstate commerce and national defense.

CommunismIsForLosers 44 points ago +44 / -0

Except that the left can't tolerate interstate commerce without inecessant meddling, nor a strong military. We have nothing in common anymore. They don't want to be American and they don't want you to be American either.

AmericanJawa 14 points ago +14 / -0

You think they wouldn't do everything in their power to corrupt the Red States and bring them back into the fold?

If Globalism is their goal, then a 'semi-divided nation' just slows down the process.

HeavyMetalPatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

We need to slow down the process to organize and rebuild. Otherwise, we're accelerating on the slippery slope to communism.

thegeeseisleese 11 points ago +12 / -1

I can tell you without any doubt that if we ever were to split the United States along party lines, the blue portion would smuggle a nuke from their arsenal into whatever the largest population center in the red United States is and set it off. There would literally be no one left in the blue states to say ‘hey, maybe we shouldn’t nuke our fellow countrymen’ because anyone with a tiny bit of sanity will go straight for the red states

War_Hamster 5 points ago +5 / -0

Why not just release a manmade super virus?

VolareVia 3 points ago +4 / -1

Nuclear weapons are the ultimate bluff-weapon. They're not meant to be used. Who would want to destroy and render uninhabitable the land of an enemy, when it could be taken over instead?

Blue exUS trying to nuke Red exUS would be unbelievably stupid. They're not stupid, they're evil. Important distinction.

thegeeseisleese 2 points ago +3 / -1

They don’t want the ‘flyover states’ and the modern nuclear arsenal isn’t leaving anything uninhabitable. More like a small section, roughly 50 miles. Ground burst is where most of the fallout comes from because it creates new fissionable material from whatever is in the ground at the time, so if they really wanted to minimize fallout effects, they detonate far from the ground preventing most of the radioactive fallout from occurring. Probably a few months until most of the radiation from an air burst has decayed and the area is entirely habitable again, just minus all the people they hate.

KAGMAGIC2020 -1 points ago +1 / -2

an air burst would cause an EMP that puts the entire US back into the stone ages. They would be killing themselves off too - if thats not their goal

NPCsLOL 9 points ago +9 / -0

If that were to happen, the very first thing the left would do is invite the U.N., china, russia, islam, and south america to station their troops on the blue zones. Not hard to guess what happens next. There is NO coexisting with the left and no matter where on earth people go to avoid them, the left simply will not EVER leave well enough alone. They want us dead and forgotten, period.

KAGMAGIC2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

Then Red states would declare it an act of war and violation of whatever agreement we made. They would be annihilated.

HeavyMetalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nobody is sending troops to US soil. The UN has no juice. They can't invade anybody. China has no interest in any war, let alone a ground war. They want the US as good cucked consumers and wage slaves living in a cycle of debt. Russia is not our enemy. They are our rival. Big difference. Islam isn't organized into armies. Iran is the biggest Islamic state and they couldn't even invade their neighbor. South America is a continent, not a country and none of the Latino nations would go to war with the USA. Instead, they just send millions of their illegal baby mommas to destroy us from within.

Snoman 1 point ago +1 / -0

The left is a minority, not the problem. It’s the eGOP that are letting the nation down. MAGA can leverage their vote to get them back in line.

StraightWhiteCisMale 3 points ago +4 / -1

The leftists in this country have reached such depths of depravity that they they’re not content to murder unborn children by dismemberment, but openly encourage and approve of gender confusion and mutilating children’s bodies by surgery and hormones. Personally, I can’t in good conscience abandon millions of innocent children in blue states to abuse that almost certainly will worsen as these people go unchecked.

pushbackv2 72 points ago +72 / -0

GOP would celebrate drinking their own piss and call it winning because at least they're not eating shit.

AmericanScholar373 28 points ago +29 / -1

“…bUT dEMOcRaTs aRE tHE reeeeeAL pIsS drINkErSss!”

penguinjay1212 8 points ago +8 / -0


Fuckem both and tell anyone who thinks they know you, they are fucked.

thegeeseisleese 58 points ago +58 / -0

GOP is the party of slow acceptance of the same agenda the Democrats are pushing. It’s controlled opposition. GEOTUS should’ve started the MAGA party so we could be done with the Dems pretending to be conservatives once and for all and get the real patriots out of a fake party.

Taqiyya_Mockingbird 31 points ago +31 / -0

The GOP are like the basketball team that the Harlem Globetrotters play against. They're only there to put on a show.

AnonymousFrog 11 points ago +11 / -0

The Washington Generals.

MAGA1775 5 points ago +5 / -0

What is a single great thing the GOP has done for us in the past decade?

Repeal Obamacare?

Revoke the NFA?

Reduce the size/scope of government?

Taqiyya_Mockingbird 6 points ago +6 / -0

Not one damn thing.

jtt888 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hilarious. I just made that exact analogy to my wife a day ago about my feelings about Republican party right now.

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RBK2 9 points ago +9 / -0

The problem is many on our side (including people on here) would go "REEEEEE" over it because creating a third party would take away votes from Republicans.

thegeeseisleese 2 points ago +2 / -0

If only we could wake people up to these ‘Republicans’ I would hope the people on here are more aware of the deception.

And I would also hope that the actual MAGA congressmen and governors would migrate to the party. All 4 or 5 of them. The rest can get fucked and no amount of reeing should be tolerated.

They aren’t putting up any resistance to a policy unless it’s a conservative policy like when the ‘Republicans’ shut down the Obamacare dismantling because they’re full of shit and are closeted Dems. If they lose votes, nothing changes.

HeavyMetalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

(including people on here)

People? Or do you mean RNC and GOP marketing monkeys paid to post on PDW? We're not just a FBI honeypot. We're also heavily infilitrated by GOP party operatives to push the "GOP = MAGA" narrative.

AOCDickPics 4 points ago +4 / -0

Trump had a rally after the election and his handlers told him not to tell transjokes because conservatives were pro-trans now. He did it anyway and the crowd laughed.

In Loudon after what happened with that school, pollsters did polls about trans-issues. Whether transwomen should e able to play in women's sports, women's bathrooms, etc.... the approval was only 12-18% depending on the question.

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realSvenLaden8 [S] 2 points ago +4 / -2

Search for National Justice on telegram.

feraxil 0 points ago +1 / -1

Don't do that. They staffed themselves with the wrong losers. They're going nowhere.

Gwoz8881 34 points ago +37 / -3

Trannies are mentally ill freaks that need treatment. Not acceptance

GodSaveTheWest 13 points ago +13 / -0

most children grow out of the gender delusions aswell. Its child abuse to enable it.

QLARP 1 point ago +1 / -0

You'd think only being. 03% of the population they wouldn't have to be talked about so much.

Tranny talk ruined Joe Rogan experience. He never talks about cool shit anymore

DblFistinPiston 1 point ago +1 / -0

Especially with children

wharfthrowaway 33 points ago +33 / -0

Republicans are the release valve of the globalist machine.

thisguy883 29 points ago +32 / -3

The LGBT agenda is real. I keep saying it, but I get downvoted into oblivion.

If you're gay or trans, YOU are part of the problem. I'm sorry, but your need to be accepted in society has led to this bullshit we are now seeing every day.

I use to be a "live and let live" person, but now it's obvious we can't ignore your bullshit any longer because it's being force fed to us every day. Everything needs to be gay. Why? Just fuck right off and let us enjoy the society our grand parents had left us. Instead, we have to cowtow to your bullshit and it's never enough.

You say you support America and it's values, yet shit all over it at the same time while partaking in the same degeneracy which is leading to it's downfall.

The day of the rope is coming. This will not end well for these people.

wartooth6 19 points ago +19 / -0

We went awfully quick from "our bedroom is not your business" to "WE ARE BRING OUR BEDROOM DIRECTLY TO YOUR KIDS".

MAGA1775 9 points ago +9 / -0

This is why you can't give the left ANYTHING

They will NEVER be satisfied.

I remember people saying "Come on just give them gay marriage and then they'll leave us alone!"

Just like when they ask for an "Assault Weapons Ban" and say "its just common sense gun control, we don't want to take all your guns just the scary, icky black rifles". As soon as they got that, they would start going after handguns.

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South_Florida_Guy 26 points ago +28 / -2

Granted, Mormons are a bunch of weird fucking cultists.

thegeeseisleese 21 points ago +23 / -2

Not to mention the church leadership whore themselves out to whatever brings the most money into their pockets. Their values can and do change for cash. If you think they aren’t all like Mitt Romney (elders, not your ordinary Mormons) you’re deluded.

least_counties_ever 25 points ago +25 / -0

Democrats want to spend $100 trillion dollars transgendering all the kids in the world, and Republicans work “tirelessly” to get it down to $99 trillion then brag about how much money they saved you.

sfmaga 8 points ago +9 / -1

All the while "pedes" swear freedom means the lgbtq+ propaganda to transition both adults and children (or at least make them homosexual) is okay as long as they vote republican.

jtt888 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'd rather not have their vote if it meant normalizing sexual perversion. Same thing for people that love killing babies.

RedBlooded 24 points ago +24 / -0

I still can't get over the fact that puberty blockers on children is a thing. Pure fucking clown world.

keepamericagreat102 12 points ago +12 / -0

its worse than clown stuff, its genocide.

FinishTheBorderWall 1 point ago +1 / -0

The one year of treatment guideline in the law will only encourage psychotic parents to force their children into transition at an earlier age.

AmericanJawa 20 points ago +21 / -1

Personal Theory: Given that this is coming from Utah, this is just cover to help the Mormons make polygamy acceptable again.

HighVoltage 17 points ago +17 / -0

Polygamy never made much sense to me. With all the nagging and shit that just one wife provides, why would you want to multiply that?

AmericanJawa 12 points ago +12 / -0

It probably works "better" for the men who are adept at "putting women in their place" by any means necessary.

Or in societies that collectively get the women to go along with being universally submissive.

Smurfection 14 points ago +14 / -0

I think it works the opposite way. The sister wives get collected at the very top of the male hierarchy, get their own SUVs, their own houses, get to raise the children mostly the way they want to and as they get older they have less and less "interferring" from the man. It's a made life for the woman who marry the rich Mormon men. The bigger problem in Polygamous communities is the extraneous young men. They have to be done away with. Mormon boys and young men are the biggest problem in Utah because the Mormon leadership of the fundamentalist sects finds ways to throw them out of the community. Generally, these Mormon men and boys have little education, little understanding of the world and very quickly fall into drugs and a live of crime. The Islamic world has the same problem. Too many young men, not enough women to go around because old men take up the poor 14-16 year old girls. So the men become angry and bitter as they stew in their mommies houses with nothing to do but go to the mosque and pretend they are having a spiritual experience.

Polygamy is harmful to women who are married off young or who want a different life from themselves but the problem with instability is the young men who are cast out or keep on the bottom with no chance of getting married, getting a decent job and pushed out.

conservativeyuppie 9 points ago +10 / -1

And this is why Jesus made monogamy a sacrament, because it's the only healthy way to do relationships.

Smurfection 5 points ago +5 / -0

Its also how He reveals his relationship to the Church - He is the groom and the Church is his bride. It is through matrimony and the respective gender roles it entails that we learn about the person of Jesus and in a limited way, come to understand the Holy Trinity. Matrimony was the only commandment prior to the fall of man through Adam's sin.

VolareVia 6 points ago +7 / -1

Too many men with no dating prospects presents a similar problem to too many women.

Too many men with no dating prospects? Women become highly selective, but while valueing the wrong traits.

Too many women with no dating prospects? Men become highly selective, but birth rates plummet and society stuggles.

Polygamy and polyandry, and hypergamy are the worst of both. Within one household you have scenario B, which produces scenario A in the larger society if any of the three become popular.

One way to potentially fix this is to pull all federal funding from college liberal arts programs. The number of women with degrees would plummet, and they'd become more marriageable and wholesome. The birth rate would also rise.

Smurfection 5 points ago +5 / -0

If women of child bearing age outnumber men, the men don't become hyper selective. They become adulterers. After WWI and WWII, there were places in Europe in which the number of eligible women were sometimes 3-1 outnumbering men. The men would marry a woman but become adulterers and carry on affairs with other women. It wasn't unusual in Eastern Europe so see an older twenty something year old woman dating a teenage boy simply because she couldn't get a man of her own. She's be a sugar mommy. Both World Wars in Europe ended up eroding a lot of standard behavior involving courtship, sexual continency and propriety just because after both wars in certain places, a whole generation of men was gone or half wiped out.

trump4045 4 points ago +4 / -0

men and boys have little education, little understanding of the world and very quickly fall into drugs and a live of crime. The Islamic world has the same problem. Too many young men, not enough women to go around because old men take up the poor 14-16 year old girls. So the men become angry and bitter as they stew in their mommies houses with nothing to do but go to the mosque and pretend they are having a spiritual experience.

This is our society in a nutshell.

Smurfection 2 points ago +2 / -0

There are not a lot of young men in western society that care enough about the spiritual life to even pretend a spiritual experience. Pretending toward religion exists almost exclusively in the islamic world. Also, old men in western society aren't marrying all the poor, young girls. They're flat out pimping them out and then dropping them when they become too much of a hassle. Shia does the same thing with a type of marriage called a "pleasure marriage" which lasts only hours and it's basically a pimp/prostitute type thing and the "husbands" are generally men studying to be clerics at Qom.

jtt888 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's literally TV shows about polygamy on TLC.

RATMW 13 points ago +15 / -2

The tranny issue is being forced to divide the right between hardline conservatives who hate them and libertarians/classical liberals who don’t care, in the hopes of taking their votes from the right.

“See, they won’t accept innocent trannies who just want to live in peace, they’re too extreme, vote dem”

You damn right we won’t accept them. Mentally ill pedos get the rope!

magaroll 13 points ago +13 / -0

Vote harder for the GOP. right?

yurimodin 8 points ago +9 / -1

if you don't its just letting them cheat.

magaroll 6 points ago +7 / -1

actually voting in an election you know they are cheating in is LETTING them cheat more so because you are validating the election and approving of the cheating by accepting the results of it.

yurimodin 4 points ago +4 / -0

straight facts here.

magaroll 4 points ago +4 / -0

Plus in the context of this discussion I meant "vote harder for GOP" is voting for democrats basically because they vote for and allow the same shit as democrats anyway so they are no different.

IvIA6A 10 points ago +10 / -0

All the celebrities have designer tranny kids. Soon the gop will have them too.

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trad_patriot 10 points ago +10 / -0

There are a lot of trees in America, but too few ropes...

realSvenLaden8 [S] 2 points ago +5 / -3

Fortunately ropes are reusable.

NoahGav 6 points ago +6 / -0

Sadly ropes might as well be disposable since nobody seems to be willing to use them.

FudgyFudgeBots 10 points ago +10 / -0

Feminazis are writhing with confusion. Fight for leftists or fight for women.

HeavyMetalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

They will destroy their own for virtue points.

aside 10 points ago +10 / -0

Conservatives are about going the speed limit to communism. While liberals are going as fast as possible

Saint_Floyd 10 points ago +10 / -0

But muh based trannies. There's room for everyone in MAGA. Hurr durr.

Mathetai 10 points ago +10 / -0

These people have conserved absolutely nothing for generations. Why would they start now?

ekos640 9 points ago +12 / -3

I honestly think people should be free to cut off their own dick or tits

But I should also be able to call them freaks or X-Men or Transformers and nothing has to be normalized for anyone to accept- by the Toxic Avenger Alphabet Gang or anyone else

Freedom is freedom to be retarded too is my point

Sports thing is fucking retarded - just put the X-Men in their own league it's not fair to the actual women

We could even egg them on in the X-Men league to get like tractor tires surgically installed to help with the game/speed or a rocket launcher for an arm or some shit - they'd do it just put a bow on it or I dunno some dude shit if it's the other form of transmission

tell them if they don't take and use the rocket launcher, it will just be used to bomb brown kids too

now we got a fucking 'sports' league with transformers shooting rockets at each other like American Gladiators on drugs - and 40% of them were gonna kill themselves anyway so this is like win/win for everyone - cause you know damn well you'd watch this shit

realSvenLaden8 [S] 5 points ago +9 / -4

People shouldn’t be free to to stupid things. You shouldn’t suggest people be free to drive on the wrong side of the road.

ekos640 2 points ago +8 / -6

People shouldn’t be free to to stupid things.

Honestly think about that.

Who decides.

Where is the subjective line of stupid or not stupid drawn.

Don't fight monsters so long you become one yourself.

CentralAmericanPede 12 points ago +13 / -1

Libertarians are why we are in the mess that we are in. Guess what, while you play your “live and let live” game, the left is united in trying to impose slavery on us. Which philosophy do you think will win? I know that confrontation is not fun, but sometimes there is no other option.

ekos640 -1 points ago +4 / -5

Libertarians are why we are in the mess that we are in. Guess what, while you play your “live and let live” game, the left is united in trying to impose slavery on us. Which do you think will win? I know that confrontation is not fun, but sometimes there is no other option.

I think they have the right to die trying as well. That's part of my 'live and let live' too.

I believe if others feel they are a justified threat to their freedom - then step up and kill them. You have the right to protect your freedoms too IMO before they're taken from you. If you really feel that way.

Because I believe in freedom. But I guess you don't? OK.

PM_ME_UR_VIVOZ 7 points ago +10 / -3

What you're pushing has a word for it - anarchy. The moral law is absolute, and not up for personal interpretation. Societies that abandon it will see it return with weapons, one way or the other.

ekos640 -1 points ago +5 / -6

The moral law is absolute, and not up for personal interpretation. Societies that abandon it will see it return with weapons, one way or the other.

Oh, so you're a jihadist muslim?

Yeah, no thanks with all that as well.

You can go live in WhateverTheFuckistan if you want to live under rule of the Quran. We do freedom and the Constitution in America.

PM_ME_UR_VIVOZ 2 points ago +5 / -3

uR a JiHaDiSt MuSlIm?

Jihadist Muslims are what you get when you refuse to accept the moral law. Like I said - you get it one way or the other, and God cares little for your quibbling over the definition of “freedom.” Those who reject the moral law will live enslaved by the very degenerates they claimed to uphold in “freedom.” Before the end comes, they will understand it in full.

The Constitution clearly denies politicians the freedom to enslave you. According to you, that makes it a Taliban document. You just might be wrong on what “freedom” actually is, or what was intended when the country was laid out.

conservativeyuppie 3 points ago +5 / -2

You believe in license to do evil, not freedom. Freedom is the liberty to do good. You can't play both sides, evil will always try to encroach on good.

ekos640 2 points ago +3 / -1

Freedom is the liberty to do good.

If that's all freedom was it would just be called 'doing good'

So, God gave us free will, and free will, like freedom, means we can do good or evil

So once again, you are trying to play God and remove from us the free will and freedom He Himself bestowed on us

So you can be gone serpent, with all your intentionally false 'moral righteousness'

Save your false words for those who don't appreciate the gifts the Creator gave all of us.

TommyJarvis 9 points ago +9 / -0

Oh there's the farty old "you do you" libertarian opinion.

That only works when both sides agree on "you do you". The left doesn't agree, they want you dead.

So while you dick around with your bong spouting off libertarian freshman dorm room philosophy, they're out there finding ways to enslave or outright kill you because you're not woke ENOUGH.

ekos640 -3 points ago +2 / -5

Oh there's the farty old "you do you" libertarian opinion.

That only works when both sides agree on "you do you". The left doesn't agree, they want you dead.

So while you dick around with your bong spouting off libertarian freshman dorm room philosophy, they're out there finding ways to enslave or outright kill you because you're not woke ENOUGH.

I'm not a libertarian lmao, left and right and libertarians and whoever else got the right to die trying whatever it is you say they're trying.

We do freedom here in America though

realSvenLaden8 [S] 2 points ago +7 / -5

So you’re saying parents have the right to mentally and physically abuse their children with this bullshit? You’re part of the problem.

ekos640 0 points ago +5 / -5

So you’re saying parents have the right to mentally and physically abuse their children with this bullshit? You’re part of the problem.

Show me exactly where I said this please and thank you.

Verbatim quote it please.

Knock your dumb shit off.

If a person wants to cut off their own dick or tits, they have the right to ruin their fucking life.

Don't assume to play God and protect people from themselves.

Imransgarage 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ah person? You mean a licensed doctor up to their ass crack in regulations?

Literally nothing is stopping a person from cutting their own body parts off, but that is 100% not what is being talked about here.

ekos640 0 points ago +2 / -2

Literally nothing is stopping a person from cutting their own body parts off, but that is 100% not what is being talked about here.

Except for the people (OP at that) literally saying even just that shouldn't be allowed under 'freedom'? And that freedom is just an excuse to them as well?

Imransgarage 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's obviously not what they are talking about.

realSvenLaden8 [S] 4 points ago +8 / -4

The article and the title of this thread is literally about children.

ekos640 1 point ago +3 / -2

The article and the title of this thread is literally about children.

I said quote me. Stop deflecting with your bullshit.

realSvenLaden8 [S] 3 points ago +8 / -5

It’s not deflecting. On a thread discussing tranny kids you said you’re perfectly fine with people cutting off their own dick and people have the right to be stupid. This bullshit is being pushed on these kids by parents and teachers. It has an obvious effect on society. If you’re not against it, you’re complacent in it at the very least and are part of the problem.

Libertarians get the rope. Same as leftists.

ShartMaster -4 points ago +4 / -8

People should be free to do stupid things so long as the act is not likely to harm anyone else.

realSvenLaden8 [S] 10 points ago +14 / -4

Tranny shit harms everybody.

ShartMaster -6 points ago +2 / -8

If a person wants to cut their dick off and play dress up, fine. As long as they still have to use the men's dressing room, rest room, etc. and they don't try to get me to play along with their silly reindeer games, it only harms themselves.

That said, that's NOT what they are doing. They want a modern day Weimar Republic; amoral and anti-christian.

That's why I specifically stated, "unlikely to harm anyone else". It was a very short, concise statement that covers a lot of ground. I truly believe that people should be free to engage in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in any way that is harmful to no-one else. The modern trans movement, the CRT/DEI movement, this incessant march toward a communist society all harm others and are an anathema to a harmonious American society, therefore we must stay vigilant and informed.

If we had a truly representative government, none of this propoganda would be mainstream, none of these laws would be written, and 90-95% of the "elected representatives" on school boards and in local, state and federal government positions would be hauled out of office and "run out of town on a rail".

TommyJarvis 7 points ago +9 / -2


I'm sick of retreating on these issues. The left keeps swallowing up institutions and pushing for crazier ideas and we keep ceding to them because people like you are too afraid to stand up to them.

What one person does in society does effect the rest. A freakshow shambling down the street in a dress, heels and wig insisting we all believe his stupid fantasy IS dangerous. It undermines "normal" people and contributes to the national psychosis we are suffering from.

Grow up.

Imransgarage 3 points ago +5 / -2

Go tell your doctor you should be free to get any treatment you like. Let us know how it goes.

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usdodsgssog 5 points ago +5 / -0

Works for me. At the rate we're going we'll need someone willing to go balls to wall to stop this insanity. And no, for those incapable of comprehending the concept, I don't want literally Hitler. Or maybe I do? Cause with all that propaganda bullshit shrouding world history I don't have a god damn clue what Hitler actually did. But I digress.

realSvenLaden8 [S] 2 points ago +6 / -4


TheFozz 4 points ago +4 / -0

Utard here.

Fake conservatives and RINOs have been targeting Utah for some time now. Add to that:

All the blue faggots than immigrate to our state

The burgeoning Silicone Slopes tech hub that seems to breed communists

The voter fraud committted by the commies that run Salt Lake County and we’re gonna have a fight on our hands sooner than later.

dirtymikeandthebois 4 points ago +4 / -0

So in 5 years they will be on 'minor attracted person' train.

Fucking retards. Draw the line. I think people normalizing cutting off their dicks is a reasonable line

Bananasthesequel 3 points ago +3 / -0

The GOP is dead to me. I vote for Lions, not RINO's. MAGA or GTFO.

Dirk_Diggler 3 points ago +3 / -0

Look at (but don’t look at) Jazz Jennings. Goes through all that process just to turn into a disgusting freak ham planet.

Wrexxis780 3 points ago +3 / -0





Probably whats next.

TheMAGAlorian787 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can’t preserve women’s sports when men are participating. How retarded are these people?

cK5150 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s not about women sports. You don’t get it yet or what?

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TommyJarvis 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bob won't make it to that future time.

Bob will swallow a bottle of pills at the end of his Junior year.

Another tragic covid death!

resoluteAction 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wait till we see the gope of the uniparty try and move pedophilia into the mainstream going the speed limit.

KINGOJ007 3 points ago +3 / -0

This world is already too fucked up to fix

Filetsmignon 2 points ago +2 / -0

No shit. Now's good for that meteorite.

lul_cheto 3 points ago +3 / -0

They embraced poop sex years ago.. sadly so did trump waving his rainbow flag with pride on stage

AmericanMonarchist 3 points ago +3 / -0

The last seventy years has shown the Republicans to be nothing more than leftists on generational delay. 1950s conservatives, nevermind our Founding Fathers whose ideals we allegdly conserve, would be aghast at hearing our "right-wing" values. The modern right is little more than leftists who do not want to be strapped with the bill.

realSvenLaden8 [S] 1 point ago +5 / -4

The modern right makes 90s era Bill Clinton look far right.

conservativeyuppie 2 points ago +2 / -0

Idk why you're getting downvoted for that considering DOMA was literally signed by Clinton.

The_Kuru 3 points ago +3 / -0

Their love for the longest sitting speaker of the house Denny Hastert and refusal to call for an investigation after the serial boy rapist was exposed might have been a clue.

spezpedobestfriend 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good luck in Mormonville. They quit the Boy Scouts en masses and formed their own scouting after the Boy Scouts got woke. I can't wait to see what happens to Mitt when he gets primaried.

Bogey 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Mormons seem to have a huge rino problem though. Money seems to purchase their ethics.

crash7863 2 points ago +3 / -1

There's no based gays or based trannies. We don't need to pander to the mentally ill.

fakewhiterage 2 points ago +2 / -0

People didn’t believe you? I call bullshit

Most of us saw this coming

clown_world88 2 points ago +2 / -0

Come join the third position already. You trumptards have gotten your shit bashed in over and over

Redpill-notCommieRed 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why are they allowing kids to be abused by mentally ill parents?

Red888 2 points ago +2 / -0

The uniparty is fine with mk ultra-ing Americas children... and injecting them with bio-weapons

Donker 2 points ago +2 / -0

I know this is something we don't all agree on, but I don't really care about the transgender stuff... if you're an adult and spending your own money, that's pretty close to the bottom of my list of things I give a fuck about.

The "transgender kids" stuff on the other hand is fucking child abuse.

"Transgender kids" is the now socially acceptable term for "Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy." It's literally parents abusing their children for attention.

Even among the Democrats, the still somewhat sane ones who don't spend their lives in social media, that's not really even a contentious thing to say. These decisions are driven by less than 1% of the population who live on twitter, and then "supported" by a larger percentage who are just terrified of being cancelled or called "right wing."

MAGA1775 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Transgender kids" is the now socially acceptable term for "Munchausen Syndrome By Proxy." It's literally parents abusing their children for attention.

That's exactly what it is. And especially in the age of social media and narcissism, there's so many sick parents out there who push their kids to take puberty blockers, get surgery to be "transgender" so that they can virtue signal and get attention.

realSvenLaden8 [S] 0 points ago +3 / -3

You can’t accept one without the other.

Donker 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't think I follow...

Are you saying just because I don't care about what some other random grown man does to himself, that precludes me from being against child abuse?

realSvenLaden8 [S] -1 points ago +1 / -2

Yes. You can’t accept one without the other.

Flptplt 2 points ago +3 / -1

The Republican party is nothing more than the right wing of the Democrat party. To believe otherwise is embarrassing.

FreedomFromGovt 2 points ago +2 / -0

The GOP is completely comfortable and relieved to have returned to their usual role as the DNC's 'Support Staff'. They hated Trump because, even at his age, he showed them up on his dogged work ethic; he shined the spotlight on their stealth leftism, calling them out by name; and, he demanded that they uphold at least a couple of the campaign promises the GOP made to the voters.

AJoeDD 2 points ago +2 / -0

We need to clean house so badly.

bck- 2 points ago +2 / -0

If I were a parent I’d sign my son up for girls sports and see how long it would take for the rest of the parents to see how retarded it is

Pats5x 2 points ago +2 / -0

this is fucking disgusting.... but I don't think Utah Rs are maga.....

DefKon1 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, they are Mormons first and foremost..if anyone believes different they are an Idiot. The reason they are good with this is because it gives the State corrollary encroachments over citizens health. If you know anything about Mormons, they are all about Gene Mods for the future..just like Roman Catholics, Scientologists and Free Masons, et al...just sayin'!🐸🇺🇲

cbonez416 2 points ago +2 / -0

See how owned your party is ?

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KSMOconservative 2 points ago +2 / -0

I really feel bad for the kids that suffer all this brainwashing. When I was in middle school the pressure was on to have stellar grades and be an athlete, today you have to staple a dick to your head and find an immigrant to fuck, preferably one who's been chemically castrated. What a fucked up world.

censorthisss 2 points ago +2 / -0

Republican sponsor Rep. Kera Birkeland had previously proposed a failed bill banning transgender girls from female sports teams. She said the new plan comes after months of negotiations with several groups, including Equality Utah.

“I believe we have a policy that is fair, balanced and will accomplish the goal of preserving women’s sports,” Birkeland said

This spineless bitch went from proposing a ban, to supporting the exact thing she was trying to ban as long as they agree to a 12 month waiting period.