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Thelongrun 69 points ago +69 / -0

Good man. A good judge, now there's a thing.

This good judge better have very good security.

The people behind this Genocide are sociopathic mass murderers with billions of dollars to throw around.

They've already taken out three African leaders and a Haitian President.

Damn their eyes.

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Rainman [S] 33 points ago +33 / -0

TRUMP APPOINTEE!

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Thelongrun 16 points ago +16 / -0

Man alive, I didn't know that! Makes perfect sense.

Great, great, great news!

GREAT NEWS!

Still, I hope the guy's got great security.

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Ez_mac 49 points ago +49 / -0

Too late in most places. People were either coerced or fired. Hopefully those fired get a huge lawsuit payment, but I doubt it

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chuckachookah 38 points ago +38 / -0

You will see people be re-offered their position.

But, real talk, these hospitals already fucked up. They listened to their SJWs in HR or the fat Karen "administrators". The business leaders cucked out on their responsibilities and/or you have a board of doctors that are ALL on the take to Big Pharma and they are pushing the vaxx.

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keepwinning 8 points ago +8 / -0

100%. That is, go back when they offer 100% increase in pay.

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DefenderDad 3 points ago +3 / -0

Its SJWs in my company that corrupted the CEO. Lets just say my company is in the process of getting too woke and will go broke before long.

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chuckachookah 8 points ago +8 / -0

Is this going to save your position, Doc?

A surgeon buddy of mine was in the same position. He had been arguing with pretty much all of the hospital directors and they were sucking that Big Pharma D.

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chuckachookah 5 points ago +5 / -0

Now you at least have the law on your side (in the form of a nationwide injunction).

From doctor to UX designer.. hmm. well, good luck either way.

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Erkme73 5 points ago +5 / -0

Reply here when you find out what gives. Wife works locums and one of her two contracted job shops has already caved. They accepted her medical exemption. The other still hasn't responded to the exemption filing.

We had an interesting talk tonight about whether the facilities where she works or the staffing firm will change direction. I said they almost have no choice. Unless they're suicidal about virtue signaling, they no longer have the .gov backing - and I would presume, thereby lose their legal liability carveouts. Interesting times.

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ActionExpress 2 points ago +2 / -0

Keep trying man! A good UX designer is invaluable to a company. Someone that can put their selves in the customers shoes, someone who can understand how design changes can impact revenue, and someone who is willing to be creative with their ideas. That someone is you!

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Drsugarballs 6 points ago +6 / -0

Had a long convo with our hospital legal counsel today about this issue. He and I agreed. It’s was nice. And now I don’t loose my job.

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oldmanliverspots 5 points ago +5 / -0

how do you think hospitals will respond? mine had said not to bother holding out hope that they would change their policy in response to anything courts do and that it's their own hospital policy, but I don't see how they can continue the charade now. it seems like that was probably a bluff.

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Plutossextape1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Same here last day is tomorrow.

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Jecovidwitness 16 points ago +16 / -0

I held my ground. They keep sending me emails telling me I have till December 5th to get first shot. I keep ignoring them. I guess I’ll find out tomorrow whether they’ll drop it or go full steam ahead. I told my coworkers they can do what they must. The answer is no shot, ever.

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OhioRock3 9 points ago +9 / -0

Exactly. My son already lost his job at the hospital

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Thelongrun 3 points ago +3 / -0

A good point... tragic, but unfortunately true.

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POTUS_DonnieJ 34 points ago +34 / -0

OSHA down, CMS down. Now its time to go after the fed contractor EO killshot

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Lurking-My-Life-Away 13 points ago +13 / -0

I'm a former fed contractor who walked. Sup far I'm pleased with the decision but I do have co-workers I'll miss. Some good people folded under the pressure. It was really sad to watch.

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POTUS_DonnieJ 9 points ago +9 / -0

I’m pissed at the definition of fed contractor. I work for a private company that does 99.9% non government things, I’m an engineer on a product that is exclusively sold to consumers, most of whom hate the government, 99.9% of the 50k employees that work for my company will never in their entire careers even put 5 minutes of work into a government project, and yet, because that tiny tiny tiny government project exists, we’re all federal contractors.

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Lurking-My-Life-Away 7 points ago +7 / -0

That's ridiculous. If I was the company owner I would have ditched the contract because the terms were breached by the federal government. Sad to see so many effected for so few.

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easyonthefiber 1 point ago +1 / -0

My understanding was that the federal vaccine mandate for contractors required a contract modification for existing contracts, or went into effect for all new contracts (verbiage added to the new contracts as part of the solicitation package).

It would be crazy for an entity to unilaterally be able to modify all existing contracts without ratification by the other party(parties) on said contract.

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joejack777 6 points ago +6 / -0

Cms is still alive in blue states. I fucking hate my state

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Women4Trump2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

i just read that the fed contractor mandate was knocked down. Either saw it on citizensfreepress.com or breitbart.com

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Rainman [S] 18 points ago +18 / -0

SPEZ:

A Louisiana U.S. district judge blocked a federal COVID-19 vaccine mandate for health care workers Tuesday, issuing a nationwide injunction in another setback to President Joe Biden's effort to require wide segments of the population to be vaccinated.

Louisiana Western District U.S. Judge Terry Doughty's decision follows an identical ruling Monday from Missouri U.S. District Judge Matthew Schelp, but Schelp's decision only covered 10 states.

https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2021/11/30/louisiana-federal-judge-blocks-biden-national-covid-vaccine-mandate-healthcare-workers/8806478002/

https://sports.yahoo.com/louisiana-federal-judge-blocks-nationwide-214608170.html

OLD LINK https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/judge-blocks-covid-19-vaccine-rule-healthcare-workers-across-us-2021-11-30/

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MAGA_____bitches 18 points ago +18 / -0

My sister works for a healthcare company and she works remotely..... has never met a client or a coworker face to face in over a year..... and she has to be vaxxed by Friday.

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chuckachookah 15 points ago +15 / -0

she has to be vaxxed by Friday.

Not any more.

Tell her to contact HR and document that what her employer is demanding has major civil rights implications that outstrip any HR policy (whether under duress from the Biden Admin or self supported).

DOCUMENT the exchange.

And, have her contact a lawyer. Now that there is case law (in some states new laws on the books), lawyers fees are IN PLAY.

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DefenderDad 7 points ago +7 / -0

Correct. Being fully remote is a reason it is dangerous for the company to mandate. That means they are saying they accept financial responsibility for the remote workspace.

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icuNurse 4 points ago +4 / -0

Unfortunately, this doesn't stop an employer from mandating vaccines if they'd like too. This only prevents the federal government from forcing a business to mandate vaccines.

An individual business mandating vaccines is an entirely different scenario.

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chuckachookah 2 points ago +3 / -1

It’s is a different scenario, but businesses operating in the US all have to work under US law and that starts with the Constitution.

And these rulings outline the civil rights that can and would be violated.

An employer can not make a policy to force women to abort their child. Nor can they take action against you or have a policy related to your HIV status. And they can’t take action based on your color, creed, or religion.

Right or wrong, these matters are settled an employee has rights. Work at will doesn’t carry allow an employer to have any policy it wants.

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icuNurse 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, you're wrong in literally your very first section. Private business isn't bound by the constitution in the slightest. The constitution solely binds the government. Different labor laws, civil right acts, and anti-discrimination legislation protects you from your employer.

An employer can also 100% mandate things within reason which is why there have been drastically different results in the court cases about the mandates.

Businesses can require all kinds of things as requirements for employment as long as they follow Title VII anti-discrimination laws.

Un/fortunately a private entity can require vaccination as a condition of employment. What they cannot do is discriminate based on vaccination status. Like you said, they can't discriminate against you for your HIV status as that's a protected class under the Americans with disabilities act. Again, un/fortunately the freedom aspect here means nobody is forcing you to do anything. The hospital isn't forcing me to do anything against my will. They're not going to hold me down and force me to be vaccinated. They absolutely are trying to coerce me and such in exchange for employment, but that isn't forcing me to do anything. This is why every lawsuit about employer mandates being unconstitutional has been tossed by the courts.

In regards to government mandates, this is where what you are talking about comes into play. The government is absolutely violating your civil liberties by mandating the vaccine and every mandate has been shot down by the courts due to this fact.

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chuckachookah 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, you're wrong in literally your very first section.

We're on the same team, so I think you're coming on a tad too strong.

Private business isn't bound by the constitution in the slightest.

First, it is absolutely correct that all US businesses are governed by US law and US law begins with the Constitution. In practice, we also have the compiled, durable case law, which is ultimately covered under Article III.

I have sold three businesses, running one full time right now, and an investor in another.

A business (any business) spends most of its energy complying with the laws and all laws, rules, and regulations emanate from the Constitution.

The constitution solely binds the government.

No. The Bill of Rights, which is one section (an extremely important one) of the Constitution. In fact, it's "just" the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution.

You're thinking very narrowly.

Different labor laws, civil right acts, and anti-discrimination legislation protects you from your employer.

Ah-huh. Correct. I was speaking more broadly. The civil rights amendment is part of the Constitution... it is an amendment to the Constitution.

All of those labor laws emanate from Article I (the Legislative Branch). Broadly speaking, Article I provides the powers that create, rule, or sunset any law or agency that creates/enforces workplace rules.

And, the resultant laws (or constraints put on the created agencies) provide employees protections.

Which is exactly what we are seeing now. Underlying this whole legal process that is now (FINALLY!) playing out is ultimately the Constitution at work.

In fact, you eventually get around to saying what I was getting in at in my prior post...

The government is absolutely violating your civil liberties by mandating the vaccine and every mandate has been shot down by the courts due to this fact.

^ That is the Constitution at work.

Un/fortunately a private entity can require vaccination as a condition of employment.

If you're accepting this death jab as a "vaccine"... no, in fact, they can no longer legally require this death jab as a condition of employment. Part of the legal reasoning (in these multiple decisions) is the utter lack of evidentiary basis to call the death jab a "vaccine". And, now, certain states have made it illegal to make the death jab a requirement for employment. In Florida, that applies to existing and potential employees.

More generally, yes, a business can have vaccines (like real vaccines with an actual history, long-term studies, and documented, well-known instances of adverse reactions) as a condition of employment. But, in many instances (e.g., an employee has a well-documented allergic reaction to these well-documented vaccines) an exemption is provided.

You make some other good point, other flawed points about the other stuff, but anyway...

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Thelongrun 11 points ago +11 / -0

That's evil and insane. This is a hard thing for me to say, but her job is not worth dying for. Yes, I know she might have family to feed, rent to pay and everything, but being poor is much better than being made very ill, or worse. My apologies if I have intruded in any way.

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Thathurtsmyfeelings1 16 points ago +16 / -0

My wife is crying right now. She waited it out and didn't bend the knee. She is so happy.

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Jleinf 7 points ago +7 / -0

She’s a brave good person and did the right thing. Give her a hug for me

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bill_in_texas 12 points ago +12 / -0

Too late for the tens or hundreds of thousands nationwide who have already been fired over the forced injections.

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chuckachookah 3 points ago +3 / -0

And too late for the others that took the death jab. They will be dead in 5 years.

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wookiebush 1 point ago +1 / -0

I guess they can sue because they were coerced into getting the Clot Shot. Or at the very least, if things go wrong, they can sue the employer as they would be liable for issues with the CLOT SHOT.

W.

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GoGoGadgetGringo 11 points ago +11 / -0

Sucks for health care workers in WA State that already got the can. Hopefully they sue the state into oblivion

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daty_dato 11 points ago +11 / -0

Biden basically admitted that they knew it was illegal when they started it. It was just to get ppl to tow the line and get the jab.

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RedditStillSucks 8 points ago +8 / -0

If the president can provide "conditions" like this for federal contractors or health care workers.

When Trump is president again...he should bar federal contractors from doing business in California or New York. 😀

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Jleinf 6 points ago +6 / -0

Sweet, can’t wait to hear from the hospital CEO/MD that said I don’t think you understand what are you going to do? My answer: I wait and see what happens. Wonder if they’ll unsuspend me now? Cowards

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TheNewRepublic 5 points ago +5 / -0

These whole thing is so our hospitals don’t get overwhelmed but yet they won’t to get rid of healthcare workers. If at this point you still believe it’s incompetence and not an evil machination then Joe Biden won 2020 fair and square as a circle.

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teej820 4 points ago +4 / -0

Curious if those fired have litigation opportunities with it being overturned?

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chuckachookah 4 points ago +4 / -0

Anyone have a link other than Reuters?

I see a story on National Post, but it doesn’t load the article.

Anyone know the court?

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Rainman [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

See revised links

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mcoulton 3 points ago +3 / -0

What about all the people that got the bad to prevent gettin fired. It’s like they waited to rule once the weak people all gave in. They will either, never give in again, or make the unvaxed pay

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Filthy_MALE 3 points ago +3 / -0

This needs stickied. I come here for any good news.

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MmmSoup 3 points ago +3 / -0

Youngkin….Youngkin….Youngkin…?

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Hodeefuk265 3 points ago +3 / -0

What about all the people that were pressured into getting it. And the hospitals breaking their hepicratic oath??

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wookiebush 1 point ago +1 / -0

How can a Hawaii judge do a nationwide ban for President Trump, but these judges cannot? Double standards much?

W.

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Drsugarballs 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s not over yet. I don’t think this was a nation wide injunction.

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Drsugarballs 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh shit it is nationwide. Holla.

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Iliterallylovejv 2 points ago +2 / -0

Too late. I just fled my healthcare job for greener pastures half a month ago.

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Boinger1988 2 points ago +2 / -0

I feel bad for the people who gave in and got the jab. Now it’s on hold and in limbo