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CaptainHempbeard 454 points ago +464 / -10

I have no faith in SCOTUS.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 139 points ago +140 / -1

democrats are spazzing out and want to pack the SCOTUS yet again after abandoning their quest back in june 2021. good sign for us.

https://archive.md/AuLJJ

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CaptainHempbeard 72 points ago +77 / -5

They're been talking about that for a hot minute now. Nothing new.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 31 points ago +44 / -13

nah. they backed off since june. even pedo joe isn't pushing for court packing anymore.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 15 points ago +30 / -15

there was so much doomerism here about court packing until june. cuck schumer did a big series of votes in june trying to make it at least 50 plus kamala and he couldn't get anybody to bite on it with the whole democratic caucus. manchin/sinema refused to kill the filibuster to court pack. that's why nobody here has been dooming about courtpacking since then and there's no point to doom about courtpacking unless we see manchin/sinema voting to kill the filibuster. we started dooming again about them voting to kill the filibuster to pass the 'green new deal' garbage and now if they pass it they would not kill the filibuster because of manchin/sinema. they could still pass the garbage law but it would be 51-50 with kamala.

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BidensPrisonWallet 52 points ago +52 / -0

It sucks that we have to rely on people like Manchin and Sinema to keep our nation. Definition of hanging by a thread.

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Kaiheitai 37 points ago +37 / -0

We should feed their dinos and starve our rinos.

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Chad_Dudebroski 16 points ago +16 / -0

I guess the left has their bitch mcconnells and lady grahams

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Mooksayshigh 8 points ago +10 / -2

That’s the biggest problem right there. The mindset that we need to depend on politicians to keep our nation.

Change that mindset, save the country.

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russianbot4673 43 points ago +52 / -9

every time i see someone use any variation of the word 'doomer' i think to myself 'here's a fucking retard'.

the word only really first came into prominence when everyone here was calling you one if you didn't think that somehow, magically, trump was just going to remain in office on jan20th. people here still believed in that retarded magical fairy tale well INTO january. and called you names if you didn't.

me, i prefer using my brain to see what we're actually up against. retards like you prefer sniffing lines of faery tale hopium and getting high and living in a fucking fantasy.

lefties control the whole world pretty much. in fact it was trump's presidency that showed us that. then covid showed us they even control the medical industry. the FBI, the CIA, all that shit. it's ran by complete RADICALS. they label US terrorists for protesting our kids being taught CRT, but don't label antifa a terrorist group. they called those of us who shoved their way into the capital on jan 6th terrorists, but not the black guy who runs over people, or who shoots up a school.

if you don't see the kind of power they wield and assume that there's a pretty good chance senate or SCOTUS isn't going to rule in our favor, you're just a complete fucking retard.

the whole idea, the whole concept of what you're saying doesn't even make sense. SCOTUS is 9 people. you aren't fucking one of them. you aren't a senator either. those people are corrupt as fuck, they're elites, they got into those positions for power, and they're probably compromised. THEY get to vote on these matters, NOT YOU. and THEY aren't calling and asking any of us for advice. and you're over here like some shit-slinging monkey calling people doomer for actually noticing this shit. for seeing reality for what it is. god damn. you people will never learn, will you? your wishes and hopes that these elites do the right thing, has nothing, ZERO to do with whether they will or not. our 'paying attention' and not 'getting distracted' has ZERO affect on the outcome of any of this shit. the only way we could change anything at this point.... well... we all know what that is, but none of us are going to do that either.

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Goozmania 8 points ago +11 / -3

dOoMeR sPoTtEd

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Philhelm 4 points ago +4 / -0

Accelerate. Prepare for ramming speed!

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day221 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well said. If they do overturn Roe my first thought anyway was how it will be a gift for Democrats and the establishment in upcoming elections and wouldn't last long.

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OrangeElvis 1 point ago +2 / -1

The guy who likes to use his brain to get all the facts immediately considers a person using the word "doomer" as retarded. Gotcha.

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Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +3 / -1

Somebody say 5150!?

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formersenatorbiden69 8 points ago +9 / -1

Van Halen’s lesser catalog has entered the chat.

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Pickinpox 1 point ago +1 / -0

4130 is my go to

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Metalheads4Trump -10 points ago +8 / -18

Doomers are controlled ops and insufferable... LOL.. the amount of downvotes means nothing to me other that I'm right. You just prove your point.. Doomers aren't doing jack shit IRL to help turn all this around, controlled opposition.

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joejack777 11 points ago +16 / -5

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Overturning these cases are great, but they're doing it for a reason. It will lead to public outcry and begging from the left to pack the court. The Supreme cucks didn't all of a sudden find their balls after handing the steal to pedo joe

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Goozmania 4 points ago +5 / -1

Let me have some of that hopium, dude. Seems top knotch.

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russianbot4673 2 points ago +5 / -3

it's faery tale hopium huffing is what it is. not to mention contradictory. if 'they' can threaten scotus to not do one thing, why would 'they' just let them get away with some other thing? it doesn't even make fucking sense. we're talking about justice roberts, who basically told trump 'yah ok we looked at the constitution, and you DO have the authority to ask citizenship status on the census, but i'm still not going to let you do it, because i don't like your reason for doing it'

which is absofuckinglutely insane. and he made that exact kind of decision on something else really big too, i can't even remember what it is anymore. but it's butt-fucking insane that he'd rule like that, not to mention, what authority does he have to block something if he himself agrees the president has legal authority to do it? who the fuck elected roberts? nobody. he wasn't elected. our president was. the system was set up that way for a reason. judges aren't fucking presidents and yet he acted as one in those rulings.

and you think maybe the fuck was threatened and that's why he didn't want to hear trump's case? ho ho fucking ho

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jebbush123 -3 points ago +3 / -6

this is the impetus for dems to either pack the court, or to rig the 2022 elections to gain every last bit of power possible. the rigging will happen because the SCOTUS overturning it will allow them to claim that the GOP is SUPER unpopular by astroturfing more riots and then they'll steal 2022 BIG by claiming the voters hated the GOP and the normies will buy it.

they will particularly focus on stealing a supermajority in congress so they can pass shit and aren't bottlenecked by manchin/sinema, and stealing state legislatures so that most of the 30 gop state legislatures today will become democrat controlled, and then they'll pass all sorts of crazy shit (their lack of state control is what's keeping them from not going totally bonkers rn and if they get it, it will be scary).

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RedAltoids 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is not an unreasonable take.

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VasitEllyral 4 points ago +4 / -0

The timing of this is definitely odd; it'll just give the left something to energize their base for the midterms.

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Dingus 3 points ago +5 / -2

Not everything is a super-complex conspiracy. Sometimes shit is just what it looks like. I say that with peace and love. No more autographs after the 20th.

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jebbush123 -2 points ago +8 / -10

b/c overturning RvW leads to huge turnout from dems and midterm blue landslide in 2022. that's why the scotus was allowed to do this by the deep state. so that the democrats can use this to say 'oh look people really hate republicans' so they can steal their way to total and absolute control and nobody will question the narrative.

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VoltronGreen1981 6 points ago +6 / -0

Get rid of it at a federal level and leave it in the hands of individual states to decide if they want to allow abortion or not.

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Canlog96 5 points ago +6 / -1

We’ll see how much people on the left really care about keeping the court non-partisan once they do something they don’t like. The last 2 years has just been them screwing over everyone so they had no reason to fight. What happens once there is a reason?

And for those who remain dedicated to an impartial court even after major decisions they don’t like…. Good for you!

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Dictator_Bob 2 points ago +4 / -2

This will remove that leash.

Now explain to everyone how they are going to you know, get this past the fucking courts. In what universe will they obtain a mandate, ballot stuffing or not, strong enough to override an entire branch while holding back a hostile citizenry?

They are pandering to the base while throwing threats at the court.

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RStroud 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think we can, in part, thank the USCCB for this. There are 25 Catholics (15 democrats) in the Senate and 131(76 democrat) in the House. Pelosi and Biden are both Catholic. It's no coincidence they've recently been pushing for excommunication for Catholic politicians that support abortion.

Adulation with respect to abortion is a grave sin, and it is right to withhold communion from those that habitually and very publicly do so without the slightest hint of contrition. To receive communion in such a state is a spiritual danger to the recipient.

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FuckRedditMAGAMAGA 3 points ago +3 / -0

They've been talking about it since FDR

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WhoMeTwo 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's because they already know the outcome....

I hope I'm wrong.

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Holyscmoly 1 point ago +1 / -0

Makes me wonder if acb and kav have been purposely voting left to take the heat off for the big one I’m not going to place any bets but a little hopium game theory.

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SaulGoodman 27 points ago +27 / -0

If they don't like the results, they change the rules and move the goal posts. See 2020.

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Wordlife187 9 points ago +10 / -1

And 2019 And 2018 And 2017 And 2016 And 2015 And 2014 etc And 1965 And 1964 And 1963 And 1962 infinitum

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bratt 7 points ago +7 / -0

Hey! 1962 was a good year.

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Worldtraveler0405 3 points ago +3 / -0

You were born?

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RexCollumSilvarum 3 points ago +3 / -0

Kennedy elected. An anti-deep-stater.

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Worldtraveler0405 1 point ago +1 / -0

JFK won election in 1960 though if I'm correct, and got inaugurated in January 1961. But close enough. :p

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giggitybooped 7 points ago +7 / -0

Could be a bad thing. Dems don't have anything like "Trump racist" or "Orange Man Bad" to rally behind anymore. When they feel like abortion will be taken away it will give them ammo and something to rally behind.

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AgamemnonContingency 4 points ago +5 / -1

The vast majority of Americans view Abortion like changing a babies diaper. They don't like it but they don't want to deal with the shit themselves. When people are smearing the shit in their face anyway, they aren't going to go "well I see your point let's kill anyone under 6!" They're gonna say "get the FUCK out of my face!"

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preferredfault 4 points ago +4 / -0

Most young people aren't even having sex anymore to worry about abortions in the first place, so this is a side effect of the left basically destroying the family unit and isolating everyone, and has pretty much left them with no backing/attention on the issue. This is a case where their destruction of America, has created conditions that backfire on them.

Most of the huffing and puffing, like always, is being forced by liberal media. So they're on their own arguing this, and they're definitely on the losing side of the argument.

It's soo bad, that the liberal justices are spouting some obviously self conflicting positions that don't hold up even to minimal scrutiny. At one point, Soto tried to imply that the court shouldn't even have the right to decide on the issue (under the guise that it's something out of the scope of SCOTUS), when it's a case literally about something the court previously decided. So she basically made a good argument for Roe being overturned, but it was under the context that the previous decision should stand rather than the decision being given back to the states. She was basically making the argument as if it had already been thrown back to the states and isn't a matter for SCOTUS to touch.

I listened to the whole hearing, and the mental gymnastics going on with the liberal justices had soo many easy to poke holes in them that you can tell just how bad their position really is. People like Soto exude bottom percentile intellects. Just watching them in action shows why they never deserved to be there. They're like dealing with elderly first year law students.

See, Roe isn't just about positions. Overturning Roe easily has logic and science behind it. And that's why Democrats have been soo desperate to shield Roe from any kind of scrutiny for all of these years, because it is a very rickety house of cards. Even just minimal levels of legal and scientific scrutiny can blow it down.

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deplorable-d00d 2 points ago +7 / -5

This is exactly how Gavin Newsom managed to stay in power. The Texas abortion law hit at the right time and he picked up and ran with "Larry Elder = black man bad racist republican will take away women's rights". It fired up all the screeching cat women in the cities and Elder lost.

I've been very suspect of this timing, because it wouldn't be decided until 2022. The dems will use this with their army of single feminists that no one wants to fuck, to sway public opinion their way. It's a BAD move to be taking up RvW so close to midterms!

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Miztivin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Man the Rrreeeeing will be intense. Look how hard they Rreeed over texas heart beat bill.

These people are mentally ill.

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Holyscmoly 1 point ago +2 / -1

So you really think it was an honest election then?

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VirPopulus 1 point ago +1 / -0

All you faggot losers thinking it will only energize their side. Why can’t we be energized by our victories? Is it just your bullshit hopium memes that energize you, like an easily amused child? Plus, if you believe in the principal that abortion is wrong then there is no time like the present to end its federally-legal status. Should they nix RvW, that will also be a great win for states’ rights.

Learn how to win, pussies.

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Holyscmoly 1 point ago +1 / -0

I honestly doubt they could rally any harder than they already have.

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JoeManchinSupporter 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's the filibuster preventing those faggots from packing the courts

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ChelseaHubbell 1 point ago +2 / -1

This shit is a trap to get Dem voters out in 2022. Republicans are falling for it, it's so obvious what's they're doing.

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rocco_saint 1 point ago +1 / -0

Your kidding me right? The GOPe arent "falling for it". They are continuing to milk the abortion grift for all its worth. Its one of their biggest fundrassing talking points. And something they never truely do anything about. When they had both legislative houses they never even touched bills that would bar abortions nationally.

That said your point is still accurate. But the GOPe makes more in fundrasing when they are in the minority. So its a win/win for them.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 9 points ago +17 / -8

right...so let's just cower in the corner and take it in the ass like we have every year since 'roe v wade' is your solution. what the SCOTUS might do is wonderful. you know what happened when we had 8 fucking GOP appointed SCOTUS justices vs 1 dem appointed SCOTUS justice in 1992 for the 'planned parenthood v casey' (aka roe 2.0) case? 5 GOP justices (including reagan's dreadful o'connor and kennedy) voted to strengthen roe and keep it intact and make it even more pro-abortion vs 3 GOP justices and JFK's very right wing supreme court justice byron white who dissented against 'casey'.

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Jaqen 3 points ago +5 / -2

You’re probably correct, but your delivery leaves a lot to be desired.

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Jaqen 0 points ago +3 / -3

I also prefer you avoid sugar coating.

But arsenic coating isn’t a welcome substitute.

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Dingus -2 points ago +3 / -5

"WheNeVer We wiN wE reaLLy loSE"

but you're not the doomer, he is?

Some of you people need some air or something.

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Dingus -2 points ago +2 / -4

sure thing, retard!

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Sumarongi 9 points ago +10 / -1

It won’t energize them, it will more likely demoralize them. Roe vs Wade is one of the reasons we are in this situation, (general cultural decline) and it basically gives precedent to the federal government to do all sorts of shit to us we don’t want.

Lefty’s are on such thin ice with the shot , that once it becomes widely accepted that its a totall failure they will likely crack. Ritten house makes it totally unlikely that they are going to rip places apart violently like last year, and they are going to have to start blaming Trump for the vax they pushed on everybody. I think a lot of them will commit suicide if Roe get overturned . I really do

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knivey 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe they'll be too busy raisin all them newborn childrens to go out and vote next year XD

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CaptainHempbeard 8 points ago +10 / -2

It also speeds up the replacement of White Americans.

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MAGA1775 10 points ago +10 / -0

Banning abortion increases the population of future commies.

Its not typically white, conservative voting families getting abortions.

Its the dregs of society.

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Sumarongi 3 points ago +4 / -1

They wouldn’t be liberals if they knew they might have to carry the baby.

You believe that political affiliation is some how genetic?

The abortion law promotes the degeneracy among most middle class white women (and men) we see today. Most of them are worse off for it.

You aren’t seeing the bigger picture

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MAGA1775 5 points ago +5 / -0

You are correct.

This is a horrible strategic decision at a time when the left's base is crumbling and we are primed for an actual "red wave"

This is how you get a "blue wave" instead for 2022.

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thenameisdonald 5 points ago +5 / -0

“Slaughtering unborn children should stay legal.”

This is your brain on optics.

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AspirationalRecluse 5 points ago +5 / -0

They've let us down one too many times. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Worldtraveler0405 3 points ago +3 / -0

u/War_Hamster Kavanaugh, Barrett and Roberts will likely cuck out.

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War_Hamster 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's not what the SCOTUS watchers I trust seem to think is going to happen. Kavanaugh, especially has foreshadowed his thinking with some rather pointed questioning.

Roberts is also misunderstood. On the difficult and important cases, he probably votes the right way half the time. He is more concerned with optics than he is with justice, because he sadly cares too much about his legacy. He does not like sweeping change, preferring gradual moves. This is almost a golden opportunity for him; to overturn Casey, but not Roe, and then to have Roe come up in a later session.

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Worldtraveler0405 2 points ago +2 / -0

What do you mean with Kavanaugh, looking at his recent 'ruling/vote' history?

So, this upcoming court case will be about Casey and not Roe? It will be interesting to see ... whether Roberts now shows his Conservative/Constitutional base.

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War_Hamster 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think this will be 6-3 to overturn Casey but not Roe.

Roberts will certainly vote with the majority because he absolutely has to write the opinion on this one. It's imperative for his legacy, but also so he can shape it so that it doesn't take out Roe now, but leaves the door open. He believes in incrementalism.

The wording will be very important.

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Worldtraveler0405 2 points ago +2 / -0

I see. Thank you for the explanation. So, would you mind me inform what the consequence of Casey would be? Take as example, make late-term abortions, such as in NY, illegal and punishable by penalty or sentence.

Also, what will be the pretext for Roe vs Wade at a later stage e.g. talking about 5-10 years in the future?

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

My quick answer is going to be flawed, so if someone wants to correct me and elaborate, I won't mind.

Casey returns abortion laws to the States. Roe could outright ban it.

The Casey ruling should come through in June and about half the States have new abortion bills ready to go. They'll immediately be sued in just about every State. Those suits will work their way through the various courts and the one that addresses the key issues Roe screwed up will make it to SCOTUS. Maybe 2 years? This is why you'll start hearing even more calls for court packing next year while they still can.

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Worldtraveler0405 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks! Much more clearer now. We shouldn't be surprised to hear more squealing from celebs on their 'social' media accounts about this as well.

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Kaarous 128 points ago +130 / -2

Legalizing child murder is the single most evil thing the human species has ever done. May God forgive us, for taking this long to fix it.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 44 points ago +45 / -1

the saddest shit is two of reagan's SCOTUS appointees, o'connor and kennedy, voted to strengthen 'roe v wade' in 'planned parenthood v casey'. there were 8 GOP SCOTUS justices and only 1 dem SCOTUS justice in 1992 when 'casey' was ruled!!! that one single dem justice was JFK's justice and he voted for pro-life and against 'casey', LMAO. another reason to like JFK is his very conservative justice byron white.

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AlphaOverBetaReturns 37 points ago +37 / -0

JFK would probably be considered a right wing apostate these days. He was definitely left but not like the modern Democrat party.

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Wrexxis780 16 points ago +16 / -0

And the left would still have assassinated him in today's times.

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Major_Nutt 10 points ago +10 / -0

He'd probably have been friends with Trump, because they definitely would have met had Kennedy lived.

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Philhelm -2 points ago +2 / -4

They probably would've fucked the same hookers. I say that with admiration.

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Julia_J 4 points ago +4 / -0

JFK was pro-gun rights and pro-capitalism which is considered far right now.

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Christopian 6 points ago +6 / -0

If it happens, which I doubt, All this does is allow states to ban it.

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Brellin 9 points ago +9 / -0

Nothing will stop the flood of shitty leftist assholes into red states faster than red states banning abortion.

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10MeV 5 points ago +5 / -0

I agree! I've long said that I hope one day, when the insanity of legalized infanticide has been eliminated, that people in the future will look back on this time in horror, wondering how people could possibly have done this.

Legalized abortion, I fervently hope, will one day looked back upon with the same outrage as the Holocaust is today.

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Wordlife187 5 points ago +5 / -0

Agreed, however; it's funny how America always undoes it's atrocities and everyone says we're the worst.

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logan34 -8 points ago +16 / -24

Im honestly flabbergasted that the right cares so much about this shit. Imagine how many more welfare babies we would have to be paying for if the blacks and leftist commies couldn’t abort their vile vermin. I could give two shits about it. Im personally against abortion but let the leftist scum naturally cull their degenerate population

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Judicator 13 points ago +24 / -11

FUCK. OFF.

Im honestly flabbergasted that the right cares so much about this shit. Imagine how many more welfare babies we would have to be paying for if the blacks and leftist commies couldn’t abort their vile vermin. I could give two shits about it. Im personally against abortion but let the leftist scum naturally cull their degenerate population

Seriously. Get the fuck out of here. You don't deserve a place at any table of any house or to have contact with any decent human being if you condone mass murder of babies.

There is ZERO guarantee that had those children have been born and raised they would have become communists. In fact many of the more strongly anti-communist people are anti communist because their parents were so degenerately communist.

But that doesn't matter. Murder is murder; a baby is as innocent as they come, especially a baby that hasn't even been born yet.

Don't try to hand wave the atrocity away with "well it's them so it doesn't matter" - no, it DOES fucking matter.

Abortion, and the legal and moral precedents it instates, are the root of all evil we face. If we come out of this whole disaster of a world with a country and our lives intact, we should be amazed that God has spared us for our own negligence in stopping abortion; as it is, with nearly 50 years of abortion, tens of millions murdered, our nation deserves to be obliterated and forgotten. We should all be on our knees begging for forgiveness every day and praying for guidance as to the best way of defeating this horrific infanticide.

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tentonbudgie 5 points ago +6 / -1

We should probably have this conversation on the topic. Coming from the non religious group, our deal is that you don't represent us on this issue, which is fine, we're good with you having your voice and saying it. We don't need you to add anything to include us, we are good with this being a division between us and apoint on which we disagree, and yet there's so much more on which we agree that this difference is one we're prepared to live with.

Aim your cannons at the liberals.

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Judicator 4 points ago +5 / -1

Agreed that this would be a good discussion.

That said I really just don't know how you could reconcile - from a religious or not religious perspective - abortion as anything other than murder. Hence my rather zealous reaction to this person's post.

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Judicator 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thank you! Man it was getting weird how many atheists were crawling out of the wood works and going "well abortion is pretty much just a theist issue, you don't represent the atheists among us!"

Like I'm pretty sure murder is one of the most universally agreed upon bad things outside of Christian morals, even. Specifics are grayer but still, abortion is clear cut murder.

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rocco_saint 0 points ago +2 / -2

At least the dude had the balls to state the unpopular opinion. Granted not very eloquently but then again how do you make a statement like that eloquent? It's easy to hop on your soapbox and talk down to someone when you know you have the backing of the rest of the people in the room.

So yeah "Fuck You" back. I don't agree this guy's opinion, but the reason why people like him will never come to our side of the argument is because they get a nice healthy "Fuck You" from a person waving a Bible at them. Meanwhile you gain your conservative equivalent of SJW likes, just like the way the GOPe makes their money on the abortion grift. Nothing gets done because there's just enough conservatives turned away from the argument by likes of you to where the GOPe isn't forced to act unilaterally against it when they're in power.

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Judicator 1 point ago +2 / -1

Why does stating an unpopular opinion deserve any reward at all?

If my unpopular opinion is "Ah yes half of the population should be murdered every 50 years to prevent overpopulation" that isn't something that should be rewarded. I should have the right to say that, sure, but that should be followed by a chorus of denouncement because it's a retarded and evil idea.

Like I said elsewhere: even if I were an atheist, I'd see abortion as murder. There's no real way around it being murder. It's taking a human life that has done nothing wrong and snuffing it out - in a rather violent manner, too. Unless we want to start suggesting murder is moral I think abortion is to be considered mass murder, state sponsored and funded. So if atheists around here are okay with that, I don't know what you're even doing on here because it's clear your compass will take us in the wrong direction.

The GOPe isn't forced to do anything by us. This is well established: they grift for money and don't give a damn what happens next. They are part of the establishment, the deep state, the global elite. Abortion is the crux of their power, in a sense, and they would never legitimately seek to end it. It's a nonstarter then to assume they would for any reason other than because the elite view abortion as no longer necessary and instead seek to use it's disallowment for political capital.

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rocco_saint 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's a shame you missed the underlying point of my reply. But at least your smart enough to realize the grift for what it is. But feel free to keep playing into the us vs. them game that's kept conservatives fragmented.

Im personally against abortion but....

A leading "Fuck you" is the perfect way of introducing your beliefs to someone isn't it? Especially someone that admits they are pretty much on your side of the argument of being anti-abortion. But because they didn't pass a purity test that you administered for upvotes and conservative SJW feels you silenced the conversation.

That said, I've pondered the same thought process that the op stated. The irony that we are fighting against the people advocating for the ability to murder their own children. When those same people stand against everything that we hold dear. And would love to take the inalienable human rights granted us by God as they are doing the same to the unborn. We are not only giving the other side a political cause to rally behind, we're also saying that that side can not snuff out their future generations. But as a Christian with Christin morals, the life and fights are not easy. Also, I believe that children that are aborted having no blame are ushered into the hands of Jesus Christ himself. And the sin for this horrific act falls upon those that are responsible for this act. This is where I think you and I can find common ground. Right now our tax money is used to fund this process. Our representative government allows for it. And therefore all of us even though we individually are so disconnected from the act bear responsibility for it.

Now before you start adding this verse and that verse in a reply. Give John 8:6 to 8:11 a look. That might help you understand where I'm coming from.

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Judicator 0 points ago +1 / -1

If you don't even believe murder is wrong I don't know how you could call yourself a conservative.

Also if he really puts that much stock into what I'm saying that he flips political sides then he was as good as not in our camp to begin with. No, I think you're the one that is making this far too black-and-white. I can disagree with him on issues we disagree on, just as I can disagree with a leftist on issues I disagree with them on.

There are legitimate criminals that are on the political side of "conservatism" (or that vote that way). There are literal child molesters that do, too, probably. Should I give them a pass because attacking them keeps conservatives fragmented?

Don't mistake disagreement (or rather, lack of a hive mind) for "fragmentation". Trump won the legitimate vote by a huge sum this year, did he not?

Im personally againts abortion but....

Is the same thing as saying

Im personally against murder but....

That's not really on the same side. If we took everyone that says that and counted them you'd have probably 75% of the "pro-choice" (as if the baby has a choice to get murdered!) saying that - yet they keep voting pro choice and we have a mass infanticide of tens of millions of babies.

I lead with "fuck you" because saying "i'm personally against it but..." is indicative of some kind of understanding of the arguments already.

If this is a bullshit "purity test" how do you quantify when someone is truly a conservative or not? Surely when you remove purity tests then it's open season, and the grifters become legitimate conservatives just as much as the next person? There are purity tests that are imposed with too much force and strength, for sure, but if murder is too strict a purity test then no purity test is valid and you might as well throw your hands up and go "whatever the fuck happens happens!"

This isn't for upvotes at all. The only shits I give about upvotes are to get a vague feel for what the population of the thread (an incredibly small sample size, mind you). I'm not trying to silence conversation, I'm just seeking to draw a clear and definite line in the sand as to where you can stand on the issue. Baby murder is baby murder, no matter how well you try to package that. If you support it or the legalization of it I cannot tolerate that. Maybe once upon a time I could, but not anymore. I can't remain nonchalant on the issue, especially when it is largely the root and core of moral decay of the West.

Again you are falling into some sort of predestination fallacy. There is 0 guarantee that their offspring will be aligned to them. More often than not they are not, and this holds true for history. Look at the least communist countries in the world today and you would see the countries that lived communism. The communism lasted at most three generations before it collapsed and was buried, hopefully for good, in that region.

There is also 0 guarantee that conservative parents will raise conservative children. If that were truly the case then surely we wouldn't have leftists at all, because conservatives would have conserved historical values? Far from it. Children more often than not rebel from their parents, and this often means politically flipping. Should we start killing conservative babies because they might become leftists? Should we even tolerate that or that notion? Of course not! People have the right to speak it, yes, but we have the right and the responsibility to definitively and completely condemn that idea.

Leftists are more often raised from predatory behavior on children, from what I've seen. Leftists are often borderline incapable of reproducing biologically, which means they rely on preying upon children. Allowing them to inhibit their own limited biological reproduction will not stop them from reproducing or even really slow them down, to be honest.

And it isn't just about murdering their own children. Abortion is murder, having one is murder, but legalizing it is more than just murder. It's setting a legal precedent for murder that goes beyond someone's own children and into the realm of government mandated murder, something that has already been witnessed encroaching into the European Socialized medicine societies.

You start running into the realm of "if the child is mentally disabled we legally must abort it", among other things. The only reason we aren't there already is because of the resistance of pro-life crowd.

And yes. It is a travesty (and I cannot understate it enough) that our money funds it. For that we are somewhat responsible, though the finities of that lie in the nitty gritty.

Also I personally am a huge fan of John 8:6-11, I've used it many times on here. I don't believe it really applies in this case in the way you're making it out to. As I have seen it, it is more about two other things: the absolute need for forgiveness and having the moral clarity of judgement of people versus actions.

I legitimately think anyone can turn to God and truly seek forgiveness for their sins and have it granted. We are to respect that and echo it where possible, but that doesn't mean being played for fools, either.

We also need to be cautious when treading the line between condemning an action and a person as a result. I do not condemn you or this person, but I do condemn the action of abortion just as I condemn the tolerance or acceptance of it. In a hypothetical situation drawing from the imagery I invoked, say I cast this individual out of my home for their expression of this notion. Should they come back and say "I've thought it over, I am sorry for what I've said and have changed my mind" and I do not find their sentiment fake, I would forgive them and accept them back into my home.

I am not without sin. Just because I am sinful doesn't mean I cannot point out other sin, and cannot fight sin in myself or in others - especially where other innocent lives lay on the line.

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rocco_saint 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wow. That's a pretty hyperbolic reply. Yet once again you are missing the point of all of my replies to date. So let me sum it up into a more clear and concise statement.

A guy admits that he's against abortion but asks a pragmatic theoretical question. Instead of replying back with something simple and illuminating like "Yeah buddy, that's why our side's fight is so much more difficult. Because we have to think morally and not simply pragmatically. That's how the left thinks." You rent your clothes like the Pharisees and Sadducees in this "fuck you" tantrum you had. And yes, you can claim that this isn't for social points etc, and go on and on about defending it, claiming that the op and myself have some warped sense that murder is not wrong. But it's not going to change my mind. And I doubt my posts will change yours.

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logan34 -1 points ago +1 / -2

You musf enjoy paying hirer taxes to take care of all the welfare babies? Dumbass

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Judicator 1 point ago +2 / -1

Ah yes so murder is good too?

It's not like we can't just, I don't know, reduce welfare tax because it's an independent issue? Righhhhhtt.

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logan34 0 points ago +1 / -1

Look at violent crime stats post and pre roe v wade and you realize there's been many good to come from it. these low lifes aren't clogging up our neighborhoods with single parent vermin that cause crimes. In a perfect world where we had closed borders and didn't have to share society with the 13% sure ban abortion but in the world we call reality it's actually beneficial for us.

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Judicator 1 point ago +2 / -1

Define good and evil.

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MAGA1775 -5 points ago +5 / -10

Saying "Fuck Off" and "Get the fuck out" isn't very Godly of you.

Using profanity to attack, demean, or pervert is a sin.

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Judicator 2 points ago +4 / -2

"Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good." -Romans 12:9

The "goodness" of an action is usually based on three criteria among Christians (and, specifically for me, Catholicism) and most philosophies with any measure of development: 1.) Intent 2.) The action itself 3.) Outcome

My intent is not to be vile for the sake of being vile. My intent is mainly to try and dispel that which is evil (as best as I can see it) and to try and convey the gravity and magnitude of what that individual is saying, in case it slipped by them.

The action itself - use of profanity - is highly subjective and cultural. Saying "fuck off" isn't inherently vile or profane, and even in the cultural context of most of the United States it isn't particularly malicious. In this sense, the action is at worst pretty much neutral, as it is so dependent on intent and interpretation (as most language is).

The outcome remains to be seen. I cannot personally see any realistically expectable negative outcomes from my use of insistent expression.

"Attacking" and "demeaning" are not fundamentally sins, and I did nothing to pervert him in any way.

Is Jesus braiding a whip to proceed to clear the money changers out of the temple rather violently a sin?

Wrath - anger for the sake of anger, without justification - is a sin. Righteous Anger is pretty much an obligation.

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duckduck 67 points ago +70 / -3

If this were to happen, do the traitor "right-wing" judges Barret, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch get labelled as successes?

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jcd_007 69 points ago +77 / -8

Yes. If they help obliterate the absolute travesty of “Roe” and put an end to New York and California restrictions on the exercise of constitutional rights I will consider them successes.

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IncredibleMrE1 47 points ago +49 / -2

The only two justices worth their salt are Thomas and Alito. ACB sold us out for a book deal and cried over a dead violent fentanyl-addicted felon, Kavanaugh has jelly where his spine should be, Gorsuch is a flake, and the other 4 are radical Democrat activists. Their road to redemption is long, narrow, and winding.

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ImmuneResponse 5 points ago +8 / -3

I told motherfuckers about that sellout cunt back when they were trying to Kavanaugh her. Nobody wanted to hear it. All I got was "doomer!" or "shill!".

Go figure.

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disgruntled_patriot 2 points ago +4 / -2

There is NO REDEMTION for TRAITORS

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KGB82 17 points ago +17 / -0

The fallout from this might be a mess but also, ultimately, beneficial. Liberals will rage, and remove all peaceful options. But we'll see.

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joejack777 14 points ago +14 / -0

They'll just pack the court. That's what this is all about.

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aaafirefly123 4 points ago +4 / -0

That’s a good way to undermine the legitimacy of the SCOTUS.

Considering that the right has lost a lot of faith in the judiciary packing the courts will end whatever little faith remains in the government from the right.

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Philhelm 2 points ago +2 / -0

Accelerate!

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Sumarongi 3 points ago +3 / -0

They won’t rage because of Rittenhouse. You have no idea how afraid the average lefty is of guns.

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KGB82 8 points ago +8 / -0

These people engage in mob warfare. They spread the fear out. And Rittenhouse is an example of why you're wrong. They attacked him while he was armed. You think any of them that night were thinking about legalities? It's not like Rittenhouse set a precedent, so they knew that very night an armed person could defend themselves with deadly force. They attacked anyway. Of course they would try to turn it around on Kyle, but that's irrelevant. That's after the fact, after the mob. When they're in a mob, they share a brain. They do things a normal human wouldn't do alone.

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Sumarongi 1 point ago +2 / -1

You are missing the point. Two of them died and the other got his arm shot off. Those were not consequences that was even slightly in the consciousness of the average protestor or rioter last year. They all assumed Rittenhouse would be sent to prison for it, giving them free reign to sow their destruction. There is a distinct reason there was not riots after the Rittenhouse case. They are cowardly and afraid.

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KGB82 6 points ago +6 / -0

No, they assumed that after the fact. Understand. In the moment, they're just blood-thirsty monsters. That's what matters. They'll be at it again. I have no doubt, because mobs diffuse the fear of the individual through a collective.

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Patriot6969 6 points ago +11 / -5

As long as my right to my health and medical information and decisions and am not discriminated against in employment/services, i really don't give a fuck what liberals do to themselves. Obsessing over other peoples choices libtard faggotry. You wanna kill your own baby? Not my problem. My rights will not be compromised by the government as a favor to leftists because the scotus ruled against abortion. My rights (individual rights, freedom of choice, medical and bodily autonomy) are infinitely more important than some blue haired liberal hurting herself and her family. Its the same thing as guns. I dont care how many people die in gun violence related crimes. My rights to defend myself is infinitely more important than someone else doing something to someone else who isnt me. Dgaf. The government has no right to compromise my rights on someone elses behalf. Be mad.

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disgruntled_patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hell NO! Selling out the American Republic is an act of TRECHERY from which there is

NO REDEMNTION

These filthy fucking TRAITOROUS SCUM will rot in hell By God if I have to send the sonsabitches there myself.

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FormerGraveheart 2 points ago +2 / -0

You sound disgruntled!

You should try to become more gruntled. It's better for the blood pressure.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 2 points ago +5 / -3

of course. i like to look at it if 2A constitutional carry is ruled nationwide and roe v wade is repealed then we celebrate for only 24 hours for each ruling announcement and then move on and go back to shitting on the SCOTUS until every ruling is awesome like those two potential rulings.

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KekistanPM 10 points ago +14 / -4

Even if they do overrule Roe V Wade, I'm expecting a lot of people in all echelons of authority to take the "The Supreme Court has ruled; now let them enforce it" attitude.

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Wordlife187 26 points ago +26 / -0

Have you read Roe? It would delegate it to the states. There would still be abortions in all leftist states. But red states could at least pass legislation banning it outright.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 14 points ago +16 / -2

overruling roe v wade won't force blue states to stop doing abortions. it will give full greenlight and authority to red states to repeal all abortions though, which is what we want. go back to the 10th amendment, if you will. roe v wade forced blue states policy onto red states and red states still heavily restrict abortion but people are still allowed to abort babies in red states because roe v wade protects abortion 'doctors' so red state police and governments can't lay a finger on those 'doctors' (murderers).

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aaafirefly123 5 points ago +5 / -0

The red states get redder as people flee to get abortions in blue states.

Hopefully.

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6969 1 point ago +1 / -0

as for nation wide concealed carry. even if the supreme court agrees. the leftist states will bend the rules and it will take years in the courts and the supreme court will probably not agree to take the case. effectively nothing changes.

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SteelDriver 6 points ago +7 / -1

Yes, but only until they rule against something we like, then they're persona non grata again. :D

I don't know that I'd agree with the premise of the article. Sometimes, justices seem to be critical of something during questioning and end up going the other way with their decision (maybe they sometimes play devil's advocate).

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DonttrustChina 4 points ago +4 / -0

We need to get better at seeing people as more than binary "successes or failures", "patriots or traitors" etc.

People are complex. They can agree with us on some things and disagree on others. They can have balls of steel on one day, and their courage fails them on another. They're flawed and imperfect, even Trump, and we're not in the room where it happens, we don't see the kinds of pressures put on leaders trying to keep the roof from caving in.

I'm not saying don't hold politicians' feet to the fire. Just...be realistic in actually assessing who they are human beings, and consider all the plates they have to keep spinning.

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Long_time_lurker 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're right about that--sometimes they question the lawyers harshly because they want the strongest reasoning when ruling in their favor or such, so it's hard to guess based on questions alone. That said, the laziness principle tends to be a good one: if they're taking the case--and they ignore most cases--it's probably because they have something to say and want to reverse the lower courts or end a circuit split or such.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 0 points ago +2 / -2

these analyses of the supreme court justices usually are accurate 99% of the time. they nailed it with 'janus' and the gerrymandering laws and 'citizens united' and 'shelby county' and so forth. they even nailed it with 'bostock' when they said gorsuch was going to side with the leftist justices and rule for trannies because gorsuch was going to hijack the term 'sex' and apply that to gays and trannies because he will use 'muh textualism' as the excuse and come up with bullshit like the founding fathers would have banned LGBT from being discriminated against in the workforce if they just look at the word 'sex' and they will apply it to gays and trannies (godawful ruling by gorsuch, btw). and, what do you know? they were accurate and gorsuch wrote 'bostock'.

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6969 5 points ago +6 / -1

yes.

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joejack777 52 points ago +52 / -0

I can't help but think this may be a ploy for the dems to have a reason to pack the court. And it will get their rabid following calling for the need to do it.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 13 points ago +15 / -2

nah...we tried the whole 'it's the 2020 election year so let's just not take up an abortion case because we will lose if we take up an abortion case in 2020'.

glad the SCOTUS finally said 'fuck it' on abortion in 2021. they are going all in now with abortion and constitutional carry.

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MAGA1775 11 points ago +11 / -0

Nothing will energize the left's base more than abortion. Roe vs Wade is their holy grail.

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Motherslut 3 points ago +3 / -0

No one wants to sacrifice anyone. But we recognize that if the left gets a supermajority much worse things will happen to the unborn.

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aaafirefly123 4 points ago +4 / -0

And what exactly can the democrats do.

You can’t overrule the Supreme Court unless you add abortion as a constitutional amendment, and good luck with that given our partisan climate.

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MAGA1775 3 points ago +3 / -0

They can't immediately overturn it, but it would certainly help them with upcoming elections.

Right now the left's base is demoralized and crumbling.

If you wanted to see them energized and unified again, then overturning Roe vs Wade would be the thing to do it. Its their holy grail. I've spent quite some time amongst leftists and many here have no idea how obsessed they are over Roe vs Wade and "muh body muh choice."

So yeah, they couldn't immediately "overrule" it, but we would likely see a blue wave in 2022 and the left's base start repairing itself and unify/energize like never before.

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tentonbudgie 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fine. Pull their heads out of the shadows.

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Corse46 2 points ago +2 / -0

You make a great point with Constitutional carry that I hadn’t considered; that would be a great back door way to lower crime instantly, even in the areas Dems are working hard to increase crime. With a nationwide carry, you would see crime plummet via the People. Criminals don’t like the idea that they might not be the only person armed. They like the monopoly on force.

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Wordlife187 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well yeah. Rush would have been blaring that at the hint of "Scotus to hear abortion case" rumor. ‐-------Also, the leftist base is always rabid and retarded. Wherever the social virtue point are, they'll be there lapping em up.

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debtfuelsthem 0 points ago +3 / -3

this will motivate people to vote leftoids in 2022

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InfiniteYest 40 points ago +42 / -2

I’ll believe it when I see it

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Wordlife187 18 points ago +20 / -2

For real. Zero faith in the new 3.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 4 points ago +6 / -2

of course...but my experience in reading those analyses reports is they absolutely nail it on predicting which justice will do what. they even predicted that gorsuch was going to rule for trannies in 'bostock' and it actually happened despite most journalists and commentators saying gorsuch was going to do what the other conservative justices will do. i think they are 99% accurate, tbh. they pick out the overall mood of the justices and make an educated guess on whether they will be YEA or NAY.

they usually analyze if the justices are ganging up with the other ideology justices or not like when gorsuch kept tag teaming with elena kagan during the 'bostock' hearing. these people are actually in the courtroom and are watching the body movement and how they speak since we can't get any video footage or TV cameras in the SCOTUS.

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knnbccb 21 points ago +21 / -0

Expect a rabid reaction from the feminazis. Alyssa Milano?

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magnokor 11 points ago +11 / -0

The reaction will be measured on the Richter scale.

It will make the sky screaming from the 2016 Trump landslide win sound like a whisper.

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TheDTOMDon 7 points ago +7 / -0

I’ve been hoarding tendies, my body is ready.

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FreddyThePatriot 1 point ago +2 / -1

oh no, angry female tweets

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6969 0 points ago +1 / -1

probably lots of protests, but honestly probably "mostly peaceful" since its gonna be mostly women lol

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WangDoodleDangle 19 points ago +20 / -1

Pray

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TheSonOfGadsden 12 points ago +12 / -0

I wanna see it happen. And if it does we can’t get complacent in any way. Because the woketards on the left will feel motivated to get out in droves for the midterms among other things.

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Wordlife187 10 points ago +12 / -2

You do realize, abortions will still happen, right? This just delegates the full authority to the states (via 10th amendment). Lefty states will quickly pass abortion bills in under 2r hours, and all will continue. Though it gives red states the power to outright ban any form of abortion.

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spezisacuckold 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yes we all get that.

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thisaintitchief76 1 point ago +1 / -0

This will benefit everyone though. This way, when the shitty non breedable females leave for lefty states, they'll all be miserable together and far away from the men that make this country great. They're already attempting to do that now in big cities. Invest in cat food and cheap wine gentleman.

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TheSonOfGadsden 1 point ago +1 / -0

No I’m fully aware of all of that.

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FreddyThePatriot 1 point ago +7 / -6

You do realize, you make points like a girly asshole, right?

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muhlum24 1 point ago +1 / -0

*Laughs in bidet *

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JesusTheOnlyWay 1 point ago +1 / -0

If that happens, any American with a shred of faith and principle will have to flee to anti abortion states, thus depriving the mass baby murdering states of tax revenue

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logan34 1 point ago +1 / -0

They will get motivated to cheat harder

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rocco_saint 12 points ago +12 / -0

2020 - It was about stirring up the minorities. Painting a narrative that minorities coming out in force is a referendum against the racists orange man. Meanwhile they're pulling boxes of ballots out from under the table to scan three or four times.

2022 - Will be about the feminist soccer moms who may have turned out to vote against the dems in the Virginia Governors election. But saw the light when they realized their "rights to bodily autonomy" is being challenged. And they'll probably pull the same boxes of ballots out from under the table at 2am again and scan them through three or four times.....

Democrats have always done a good job of keeping their slaves on the plantation. The only thing that's changed in all these years are the chains they use.

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MAGA1775 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yep, nothing will energize the left's base more than abortion. Many people here don't understand it....but if people thought the race-baiting stirred them up, wait until you see abortion.

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Philhelm 1 point ago +1 / -0

They were going to cheat again anyway. May as well add more powder to the keg along the way.

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MAGA1775 3 points ago +3 / -0

They probably wouldn't even have to cheat. Right now their base is in tatters and crumbling, completely demoralized because all the failure's of Xiden.

But overturning Roe vs Wade would certainly unify and energize them like never seen before. For some reason they are absolutely obsessed with Roe vs Wade, I know because I used to spend a lot of time debating amongst them.

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45er 9 points ago +9 / -0

Hate to be a doomer but no way these cunts give us all that

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GenericInsult 7 points ago +9 / -2

I have literally zero faith in SCOTUS these days.

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DeportAntifa 3 points ago +3 / -0

When they tucked their tail on the Texas case, that was part of the great awakening we had in realizing that how systemically and institutionally corrupt the country is.

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War_Hamster 7 points ago +7 / -0

I think they'll overturn Casey, but not Roe. At least not for this case.

But even if they do overturn both, we should not be celebrating. This is just a stepping stone.

If we believe that life begins at conception, babies are still dying every day until all abortion is ended.

Everyone is cucked until that stops.

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Dystopiaslayer [S] 2 points ago +4 / -2

of course. i like the 'hesitant celebrations' like celebrate for only 24 hours then go back to shitting on them unless or until they start ruling every case like how we like and do it everytime.

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Tiberium 7 points ago +7 / -0

Never going to happen, they are all RINO’s

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megapat100 6 points ago +6 / -0

<you hear the death cry of many whores echo in your mind>

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RolandDelacroix 5 points ago +5 / -0

They will do just enough to rile the Democrat electorate for 2022, but not enough to set a precedent that appreciably changes anything.

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Rpxtoreador 5 points ago +5 / -0

ROE V WADE WAS BASED ON A LIE

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wufwugy 5 points ago +6 / -1

Professing anti-abortion is a non-starter for many. We should be telling liberals to murder their babies for the good of the future of humankind.

That'll get them so triggered that their captured brains will finally have a chance to stop worshiping Moloch.

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kernel 5 points ago +5 / -0

Isn't overruling Row vs Wade about cancelling my body my choice and forcing the injections?

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Sumarongi 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, it’s about states rights. Roe does nothing to stop mandatory injections. But it does force the debate of medical freedom back upon the lefties. If they want abortions to be a protected ‘right’ they will have to pass laws, in their state, protecting medical freedom oR push for a constitutional amendment

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Rydanovich 5 points ago +5 / -0

This has the potential to produce the greatest REEing ever conceived.

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NoFucksman 1 point ago +1 / -0

The REEEee heard round the world

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Patriots_dont_kneel 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not a win at all, at least not for our people. Remember that study that showed that US will be majority non-white by 2030? Well, now consider that whites abort at orders of magnitude less than other races. This is a huge win for "diversity" (genocide), and "conservatives" are cheering it on.

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6969 1 point ago +2 / -1

well most conservatives arnt racist and dont want to see ANY babies killed.

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Patriots_dont_kneel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not wanting to have your people genocided and replaced doesn't make you a racist though.

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6969 0 points ago +1 / -1

agreed

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Beardicus 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm all for hope, but SCOTUS has let us down too many times in my lifetime.

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ThaDtothaOtothaN 4 points ago +6 / -2

We are in a war and in war you are happy when the other side kills off your future enemies so tell my why we should care that lefties are killing off their own?

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ThaDtothaOtothaN 1 point ago +1 / -0

I mean lets be real here they all want to be trannies which kills off their ability to reproduce and those that can are prone to killing their offspring. Give it time and we don't have to do shit as they are essentially causing their own extinction level event.

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VoteRepublicanAgain 4 points ago +4 / -0

Why has it taken us decades to finally start fighting back against babies/fetuses being murdered???

Why did it happen in the first place?

Why aren't there more restrictions at the very least?

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Trampus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because until Donald Trump ran for President and won there were only Republicans who talked about being pro life but never actually DID anything about it. And this goes for so many other issues.

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ARfreedom 4 points ago +4 / -0

My biggest concern is Roberts jumping to winning conservative side so that way he can write a very narrow and limited overturn of these unconstitutional laws.

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TheMAGAlorian787 4 points ago +4 / -0

People just don’t understand. States will still be able to allow women to murder their unborn children. SCOTUS would just be overruling terribly decider cases that have no basis in constitutional law.

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Azukas 3 points ago +4 / -1

Careful. Roe v Wade has protections against vaccine mandates, and given their recent history on punting election fraud, I'd be extremely worried.

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xBigCoffinHunter 3 points ago +3 / -0

Prepare to be disappointed

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Pats5x 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm not holding my breath

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Wordlife187 1 point ago +1 / -0

You won't be with us long.

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Ez_mac 3 points ago +3 / -0

Unlike some here I don’t really care if abortion is legal or not. But I desperately want them to overturn Roe v. Wade because I’m fed the fuck up with these far left lunatics

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MAGA1775 3 points ago +3 / -0

I get how you want to "stick it to them." But the downside is that its going to energize and rally their fractured base to unthinkable levels.

This is how you actually get a "blue wave" in 2022.

I wish SCOTUS would actually focus on stuff that matters like the 2020 steal.

Abortion is more a pet issue of the religious right. The deep state/globalists don't really give a shit about giving that up temporarily, especially if it means energizing their base again.

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FreddyThePatriot 1 point ago +2 / -1

Unborn babies are just future stupid useless assholes anyway

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defiant_liberty 3 points ago +3 / -0

A year ago, I would have thought there is a snowballs chance in hell, but now I think it's likely going to be overturned, ironically, because a lot of the leftist elites and insiders want them to over turn it.

The reason why is because Biden is a complete disaster and failure. The leftist elites are desperate to re-energize their base to get voters to turn out for leftist issues. In sum, leftists want to destroy the family, but even more than that they want power and control, and if they think this will piss off their voters enough to get out and vote, they are willing to go there.

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MAGA1775 3 points ago +4 / -1

You nailed it.

From what we seen, everything that happens in the deep state happens for some diabolical reason.

Right now the left's base is in tatters, demoralized, and crumbling. Overturning Roe vs Wade doesn't affect the globalists, they don't care. But it would be the perfect way to revive their base and energize it to never-before-seen levels.

Roe vs Wade is the left/Democrat's holy grail. They go absolutely bonkers over it. At a time when they are falling apart over stuff like vaccine mandates, this would rally and unify them on the same team again.

You would see an actual "blue wave" in 2022 like never seen before.

I think its a pretty stupid hill to die on, personally. There's much bigger issues in this country, such as the 2020 coup, that need to be fixed first.

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defiant_liberty 1 point ago +1 / -0

My hope is that it won't be enough to overcome the economy. The dirty little secret is that the deep state thrives on debt, because debt enables them to "buy now, and pay later". But when the system becomes over saturated in debt, then all that debt becomes the inflation tax. People start to feel the true cost of government within 18 months of the money printing, and there is no way to fix that.

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MasterChef 3 points ago +4 / -1

I'll believe it when I see it. Been disappointed by these justices far too often to have faith in them.

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SaveUsSCOTUS 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lib women used to be hot 15 years ago. Now they look like a clown vomited on them. No idea how they get laid in the first place

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SaveUsSCOTUS 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oof that super sucks guess I’m gettin too old for their my little pony trans shit show sex they claim is normal thank god

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Rpxtoreador 3 points ago +3 / -0

In before a mysterious death to a key SCOTUS judge's first or second removed family member over the weekend!

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Patriot6969 2 points ago +2 / -0

And in response to this they will rule in favor of vax mandates in order to appease leftists

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20MagnusKonrad20 2 points ago +2 / -0

I never thought I would even see this day. I'm just excited to be here.

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CovfefeVideo 2 points ago +2 / -0

'member when they were poised to hear the cases from the states and nullify the fraudulent election?

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Bigperm 2 points ago +2 / -0

Theory i have on all of this... Supreme Court turns back RvW, leftists go bonkers while conservatives rejoice, the divide between Americans grows even wider.

Conceal carry is made legal and America becomes awash with guns and people packing heat. With Americans divided shootings surge and people soon beg for tighter restrictions, Congress comes in to enact very tight gun control and national database. Guns are declared a national emergency and gun seizures begin happening.

The final puzzle piece is put into place and the 2nd amendment is changed drastically or removed. Government now has full control of the citizens and all liberty is removed, social credit system is implemented and communism is ushered in.

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FishyMan420 2 points ago +3 / -1

That's just fantastic. Give the government control over your body, that will go well. Next they will tell you you can't have a kid because your area is overpopulated.

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libman 2 points ago +2 / -0

I support mandatory abortions for all communists / demonrats.

If you are fighting for the lives of their offspring, to be raised by single mothers married to the state, well - you're a more compassionate person than I am...

Just don't expect to win any future elections, ever...

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Sumarongi 1 point ago +1 / -0

that’s a false equivalency.

You are pretending that political affiliation is genetically based. That’s not how it works

Many of these leftist women would not be leftist if it were not for Roe vs Wade. It’s paradoxical but it’s true.

Women were in general, WAY more conservative before Roe, because they were incentivized to get married.

Nowadays they abort until they are sterile. These are mostly middle class white women

We pay drug addicted inner city women to have multiple babies through welfare. They aren’t having abortions. It’s the welfare that is the problem.

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libman 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are pretending that political affiliation is genetically based.

I said nothing of the sort. But there is some correlation (ex natural intelligence). Culture and upbringing have an even larger influence.

The vast majority of children raised by single mothers turn out to be leftists.

Single mothers who wanted an abortion but were forced against it will be hateful abusive mothers blaming Republicans for all the world's problems.

Many of these leftist women would not be leftist if it were not for Roe vs Wade.

Lots of things happened in the past 50 years. There's no reason to think that banning abortion will turn deranged feminists into happy housewives and mothers. It will just make them even angrier, and it will overshadow all other things that Republicans are right about (i.e. economics, geopolitics, etc).

It’s the welfare that is the problem.

We agree on that.

It's tragic that, instead of focusing on the most fundamental economic issues, Republicans waste political capital trying to ban abortion...

That results in people calling us """theocrats""" (what I was brainwashed to think about Republicans in my teens / early 20s), and not understanding the first thing about economics.

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Sumarongi 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s not about this generation (they are lost) It’s about the future

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MAK90 2 points ago +2 / -0

If it's overturned, they will use this to stack the court.

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Sumarongi 2 points ago +2 / -0

What difference, at this point , does it make ?

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6969 0 points ago +1 / -1

even if true, that is not a reason to not do these things.

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TheLionParty 2 points ago +2 / -0

why do i feel its more likely they leave roe/casey intact and just decrease the viability standard which will serve to only slowly erode abortion abilities?

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VoltronGreen1981 2 points ago +2 / -0

Get rid of the federal ruling and let the states decide. It was never constitutional to begin with.

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Trumpchoochoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

DO NOT get your hopes up. Judges in general do not want to overturn the applecart. They are fence sitters. You are lucky to get 1 in 100 that has the balls to make a hard decision.

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Fussbudget 2 points ago +2 / -0

they were too scared or too corrupt to do the right thing when it really mattered

i fully expect the worst from them

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fuckfortysix 2 points ago +2 / -0

Dead fetus has no standing, the coat hanger does though.

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CanadianFren 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lefties were more than willing to get rid of our bodily autonomy in order to use the force of government to mandate experimental injections.

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Tacitus1963 2 points ago +3 / -1

Not holding my breath. Remember this is the same purchased SCOTUS that refuses to hear about the theft of the 2020 election.

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Blacksheep2327 2 points ago +6 / -4

Probably an unpopular opinion here, but I think this is a tactical miscalculation. Over half the country has no issue with abortion. This issue is something the retard leftoids can unite together against and rally their fractured base. We want (and need) to keep them fractured and fighting amongst themselves. Now is not the time. After a Trump or Desantis victory in 2024 is when this needs to be pursued. We've been waking up the normies and so called "moderates" while the left continues to alienate every non commie. These people who will ally with us sadly aren't ready to fully swallow their red pills yet, and this will make them more hesitant. Let's play up the issues we have a what anounts to a super majority in, then win this battle when we're in a better position.

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MAGA1775 2 points ago +3 / -1

You are correct.

The left's base is on its dying breaths. This will energize the left's base more than anything anyone here has ever seen. Roe vs Wade is their holy grail. If you want to see a blue wave in 2022, this is how you see a blue wave.

Prepare to lose a lot of Democrats who came over to our side, especially women.

This is not the time for this.

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FreddyThePatriot -1 points ago +2 / -3

If people want to continue to allow democrats to destroy the country because they don't get to kill babies anymore, then i want the country destroyed since the people are so disgusting that they deserve it.

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MAGA1775 3 points ago +3 / -0

Leftists killing future leftists isn't really "destroying our country"

There's a million bigger things that are destroying our country. All this will do is rally the fractured Democrat/left base more than you've ever seen in your lifetime. It will also lose a ton of the middle of the road, non-religious, young people who came over to our side who don't necessarily fit into the "religious right."

Nothing will kick the beehive more than Roe vs Wade.

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Blacksheep2327 3 points ago +3 / -0

Do you want a shot at beating them? Bc this essentially ensures they rally their base and the normies against us. This is what will be used for beijing biden to expand the court, and things to get exponentially worse. That's the only reason the powers at hand are allowing this to get this far. Wake up my friend. We need to approach this strategically, or all is lost.