MTG announces press conference for J6 political prisoners… (media.patriots.win)  DON'T TREAD ON ME              
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Vandread010 113 points ago +113 / -0

Going to watch.

50 bucks say the MSM wont touch it

Diotima 59 points ago +59 / -0

Or they'll write some ad hominem filled diatribe about "crazy MTG".

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Taupkek 25 points ago +25 / -0

You forgot to add, "Without evidence" to the beginning.

CoryInTheHouse1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

I guarantee it will be something along the lines of "MTG Shows Jail Conditions for 1/6 Insurrections are Actually BETTER Than in Her Home District"

Below will show a white prisoners cell being well kept next to a black prisoners looking like a shithole because they set it on fire two weeks prior.

The article will then just turn into some liberal diatribe about how awful the American prison complex is today

Wrexxis780 16 points ago +16 / -0


jebbush123 -41 points ago +7 / -48

why do we care about the jan 6th cucks lmao? they were 90% antifa rioters, and maybe 10% of them were Q-chimps. their chimpout effectively stopped the ted cruz 10 day audit from taking place and made it so congress confirmed the theft.

Donger-Lord2 33 points ago +33 / -0

Anaconda is back.

Junionthepipeline 15 points ago +15 / -0

Son you dont even care about yourself.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'm sick o these damn snakes on a plane!

Wohwoh1911 5 points ago +5 / -0

Mother Fuckon snakes on a Mother Fuckon plane.

Seatacjoe 10 points ago +10 / -0

because the antifa faggots sorry FAGGOTS were excused out the back and they took in good people that just were there to here good information about the steal. THats why I turned in, I thought Trump was gonna lay down some "more" irrefutable evidence and everyone was going to demand justice. FUCK ANTIFA BUNCH OF CUCK LIL FAGGOTS, am I right Fren?

magaroll 4 points ago +4 / -0

Because at this point it's become " normal" for the government to lock up indefinitely citizens that protest or enter a federal seat of power.

doesn't matter if all of them "in jail" are paid feds, it's the fact they could be ANYONE next time.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Collapse this and scroll down to the next top level comment by Chopblock. That's your answer

magafren 9 points ago +9 / -0

Well at least we know Chris Cuomo won’t

keepamericagreat102 8 points ago +8 / -0

They know how to ignore people who are not convenient

TermLimits 2 points ago +2 / -0

Even the alleged conservative radio talk shows I listen to barely touch it. It's almost as bad as their blackout of the 2020 election steal.

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BoatingAccident 26 points ago +26 / -0


GA_Logic 6 points ago +6 / -0

I concur.

Arkham 2 points ago +2 / -0

And sadly, daddy trump betrayed us :/. didn't pardon he's supporters, but pardon a rapper! Daddy Trump still trying to win the black vote tho!!!

Chopblock 57 points ago +58 / -1

There are things about the sixth that are absolutely clear:

It was a demonstration, NOT an “insurrection” or even an “attack”.

The protesters were unarmed, had no plans of attack, and were not arranged in a combat formation.

The protesters never attempted to seriously harm or detain the people in the building or outside it, and what violence occurred was virtually all scuffling at barriers and thoughtlessly throwing small found objects, activities that are normal occurrences at any large crowd protest. No deaths or serious injury resulted from this behavior, and it was not widespread or pervasive.

Even the property damage was limited to that associated with any large uncontrolled crowd. Some broken windows, some petty theft, and some vandalism — and much of that was at the hands of infiltrating agitators whom members of the crowd identified to police and in some cases even intervened to stop.

Threats and rhetoric were of a taunting and brash, rebellious, and disrespectful nature, not calculated messages of incitement, calls to commit immediate bodily harm, or intimidation beyond the type common to any protest.

Protesters had good reason to believe that they were granted access to the building and grounds, both by precedent of previous ‘occupying’ protests, and by observing the actions and words of Capitol Police ‘waving them in’. Instances where trespassing might be more obvious consisted of staged symbolic acts, petty souvenir-taking, and in a few instances, seemingly genuine if misguided attempts to locate evidence of a national security crime to deliver to authorities.

These facts are known and provable with video footage. Less established are the connections, motivations and coordination behind suspicious actions by authorities and infiltrating agitators:

The certification itself is likely to soon be proved based upon fraud and criminal activity. Certainly the protesters had good reason to believe the very security of the country was at stake, which mitigates any judgement of the appropriateness of their actions.

Congressional leadership purposefully under-resourced and under-utilized available crowd control assets. They have already cited optics as a reason for doing so, but the way they were seemingly pre-staged and prepared with a narrative message is suspicious, especially since the actions they justified using their messaging narrative is disconnected from common sense and flies in the face of both their own precedent behavior, expressed rhetoric, and common congressional representative responses to protests.

Capital police waved people into the building, gave instructions on allowed behavior, but at the same time also engaged in needless provocation by discharged tear gas into a non-violent crowd and other actions, while also suspiciously acting with indifference to the most obvious instigators.

The unnecessary shooting of Ashli Babbitt occurred in highly suspicious circumstances, involved persons with dubious motives, and brought an uncharacteristicly unprecedented press and leadership P.R. response seemingly based on political narrative considerations.

We are finding out that instigators and planners of the most aggressive and provocative actions were government agents, federal collaborators, and known leftists often connected to BLM and/or Antifa. Yet of all those arrested, these have gone uncharged, quickly released on bail (in one case despite already being charged in another case where a protest led to a roadside shooting), or allowed to plea down their case.

The other prisoners seem to be political prisoners held for narrative and intimidation purposes more than actual threat they represent (a tactic allowed to occur before by some of the same judges and other actors). Their treatment is inhumane, capricious, and excessive, and does not conform with equal protection under the law.

Finally a word on the Congressmen, Senators, and Coward Pence:

One thing that was real was the fear and panic of an entire branch of government when they were presented with even a small chance of facing a public who might hold them accountable for their actions.

Their cowering on the floor, covering their heads in plastic bags, and self-published photos displaying weakness as virtue, their inability to speak against the accusations or evidence, and their dodgy and treasonous dereliction of duty to hurriedly install one of their own over the rightful winner of a landslide victory will be a lasting tribute to their personal shame, a historical marker of the worst congress to ever inhabit that institution, and a story-lesson about abject failure taught to children of future generations.

Those that stood up to demand honest elections are heroes, and they have reaped the rewards that all true heroes get for their service: injustice, lies, and suffering. Nevertheless it is thanks to their sacrifice that the whole world knows we are still in this fight — that America has not rolled over, no matter how corrupt and feckless our installed office-holders weakly attempt to hold their grasp on power by abuse and fraud.



War_Hamster 17 points ago +17 / -0

Did they ever find Pelosi's laptop?

Faulkner 12 points ago +12 / -0

Here’s the latest I could find:


My question is, if they have all this evidence on this one person, why did they conduct military raids on the homes of other citizens claiming to have evidence that THEY stole Pelosi’s laptop? And why haven’t they recovered the laptop? Are they going to claim that it already found it’s way to Russia?

Spez: She was only charged in October. I can’t find any mention of a trial date, and I wouldn’t think we’ll be seeing one any time soon.

War_Hamster 10 points ago +10 / -0

Thanks. She may not be the brightest bulb, and her ex seems nice, but I think she still deserves better legal representation than this:

In January, Williams' attorney Lori Ulrich said that it was regrettable that her client "took the President's bait and went inside the Capitol," but denied that she was responsible for stealing the laptop."

Faulkner 6 points ago +6 / -0

Her lawyer is just a typical lawyer who understands that her client’s fate doesn’t depend on the law or the rule thereof.

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War_Hamster 7 points ago +7 / -0

These "defense" lawyers are 100% in on the Muh Insurrection narrative. With that as a baseline, they cannot possibly get a fair trial.

It's rather disgusting.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

They don't know from insurrection. There were 3 million people there.

War_Hamster 4 points ago +4 / -0

And the only people murdered were Patriots.

I'm almost insulted that anyone believes that we couldn't do better than that if we actually wanted an insurrection.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

"took the President's bait"


If she's just playing the game and knows what she's doing ok, but 🤮

Faulkner 8 points ago +8 / -0


PonySoldier66 7 points ago +7 / -0

and it's going to take an ACTUAL INSURRECTION to fix everything, but that's none of my business.

(sips tea)

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Junionthepipeline 3 points ago +3 / -0

Every insurrection has vendors lol

IvIA6A 30 points ago +30 / -0

They need to be released immediately for lack of due process. I hope they have lawsuits lined up

QLARP 5 points ago +9 / -4

It's called the patriot act. Don't need to follow bail laws if it's homeland security related.

Muslim dudes were held in gitmo for 15 years before a trial

IvIA6A 17 points ago +17 / -0

It's not just about bail. It's about politically motivated punishments and abusing pretrial holds to elicit plea deals. It's about the right to a speedy trial with public evidence.

QLARP 3 points ago +7 / -4

Welcome to the drug war for the last 40 years.

If they use it on joggers with crack why wouldn't they use it on a boomer walking into the capital?

IvIA6A 9 points ago +9 / -0

That's Joe Biden's crime bill, that does everything but hang people for jaywalking.

when_we_win_remember 1 point ago +2 / -1

Most people get bail. The right to a speedy trial is a casualty, I agree.

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WhiskeyTwoNine 9 points ago +9 / -0

Caught in video violently attacking cops?? Source please cuz I'm calling major BS on that. I've seen videos of cops letting people through the gates and doors and videos of an unarmed woman being shot but nothing even close to a violent attack on a cop.

UsernameChecksOutt 8 points ago +8 / -0

U/stringtheory is from an alternate reality where there were many violent insurrectionists.

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Kronos1981 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Q Shaman guy never committed any violence and has no violent history yet was held pretrial and denied bail for 9 months.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

You're presenting a basic assumption of justice being served. That's a paid shill if ever I've seen one.

You're criminally insane.

There's virtually no chance they've identified so many. Also, leftist rioters from the summer of love fought Police doing much more harm and weren't detained, much less in conditions like this. Yet not a peep from you about this obvious double standard.

I don't usually care how long someone's been here, but GTFO handshake.

Junionthepipeline 2 points ago +2 / -0

Put up or shut up bitch boy

YouHadMeAtGaming 1 point ago +1 / -0

He did. And was downvoted. I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand that there was some violence there from “our side.” Yeah, it was probably started by instigators, but some of our people got roped in. It wasn’t hard to say “well this is getting a little out of hand, I should probably back off.” The people saying our side had no hand in the violence are the same people that will say any failed attempt at a revolution is a false flag, and will only get behind a successful one.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fair point.

YouHadMeAtGaming 0 points ago +1 / -1

Side note, I’m not defending the treatment of the DC prisoners, I think it’s horrible, but I am defending the point that there were some violent people there. Our side isn’t full of perfect, righteous people. We have our share of dirtbags, racists and felons.

when_we_win_remember 1 point ago +1 / -0

If we're going to speak in moral rather than legal terms, I think hitting cops on J6 was the right thing to do. There is going to be a lot more of that needed to get any kind of change in this country. The cops are the enforcers of the powers that be. They choose that position.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

We needed to clog the streets so nothing could move from 1/6 - 1/20. We had an AMA with a State legislator the summer before who told us this. It was started as an armed event. Instead of doing what needed to be done, the first person through the breech was killed and everybody went home as asked. Imagine if our Revolutionary War had gone like that, there never would have been a US. Think about the legacy you're leaving your grandchildren and re-evaluate your priorities please. Our founding documents place the responsibility for overthrowing tyrants squarely on our shoulders.

when_we_win_remember 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are right that the Patriot Act is not relevant.

I don't think this discussion is useful at all in abstract.

brainphreeze 23 points ago +24 / -1

Any sitting Republican not backing this should be voted out.

Imransgarage 7 points ago +7 / -0

Those boebert fans take note. Too busy making like warm social posts.

QLARP 4 points ago +6 / -2

Only 5 are supporting it

Wrexxis780 7 points ago +7 / -0

Did he stutter?

Arkham -2 points ago +2 / -4

Oh yeah? and vote another RINO in? Haven't we learned our lesson yet? Politicians always betray us lol?

War_Hamster 18 points ago +18 / -0

Not a press conference!!!

Whatever will the Deep State do?

This is a big escalation from strongly worded letters.

Kidding aside, these 4 don't seem like they've stopped fighting, but it's been all sound and fury so far.

Where's our special counsel for the 2020 election? Where's a single Republican demanding one?

CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

A strongly worded press conference.

And perhaps a letter of writ.

That shall teach yon skalleywags!

War_Hamster 3 points ago +3 / -0

You don't think it's a bit premature to pull out the heavy artillery like "skalleywags"?

CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nay! Nave and fool, even

Unsilent 18 points ago +18 / -0

God bless those who support these political prisoners. 🙏

GitmObama 12 points ago +13 / -1

Will be wild if Trump was there too.

Dcokes 8 points ago +9 / -1

This right here! My advice to Trump would be to get better fucking advice

Imransgarage 2 points ago +3 / -1

Hmm lotta stuff in a short sentence there.

BoatingAccident 15 points ago +15 / -0

Do you hear that? It’s the sound of the media not caring.

Darkheartisland 15 points ago +15 / -0

Ashli Babbit wasn't just shot, she was assassinated. It was a hate crime.

Junionthepipeline 4 points ago +4 / -0

On the bright side that murdering foriginer will get suicided eventually

leakmouth 13 points ago +14 / -1

Well they’ve only been tortured and rotting away for almost a YEAR, at least one is dead, others are dying, their lives have been ruined for doing nothing but I guess it’s better late than never

OnlyTrump20 7 points ago +8 / -1

Just imagine the PTSD they will suffer, even if they are released. Ruined for life, indeed.

_Cabal_ 5 points ago +6 / -1

How many have been broken, I wonder.

RedPillMAGALegend 11 points ago +13 / -2


journalist 11 points ago +11 / -0

The GOP has 200+ Congressmen, 50 Senators and only four people could give a fuck about the Patriots being held as political prisoners in our own damn country?

Wupta 10 points ago +10 / -0

No one here believes for one second that this was an insurrection. The insurrection happened when they stole the election and every single branch of government colluded. This is a generational fight but we’ll eventually crush them don’t lose faith. God doesn’t make mistakes, he revealed the corruption through the Trump administration and now we have to earn back the life we do lazily gave away.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

We don't have a generation to fight this. If midterms are stolen and nothing's been done to correct 2020 we have one option.

when_we_win_remember 2 points ago +2 / -0

It seems likely they've been cheating for a while. I see no reason it will stop.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Everybody in Chicago knows that elections have been rigged there for over 100; years. There was testimony before Congress in 2001 about the 2000; election from somebody who worked for the company providing electronic ballot machines that they could flip the results of any election 49-51 in either direction and nobody could ever tell unless you counted every paper ballot by hand.

That means that every vote needs to be on paper, checked by a representative of at least each major party to make sure it's a legal vote, and counted by hand.


No, this is not new. Neither is it a question of "I don't see why it will change." We the People need to give them a reason! I've been having conversations with State legislators all over the Country. Voting records need to be kept for 22 months for a reason. We haven't followed all legal recourse until that time has elapsed. That means midterms. That means prepare to do what we must if we don't have fair elections by then, without that we don't have a Country and our children don't have anything worth living for.

Destroy_WithLove 9 points ago +9 / -0

MGT is showing Presidential qualities.

Prudentwait 3 points ago +4 / -1

Her Holocaust memorial apology (for comparing yellow vax badges to the star of David) was shameful.

Destroy_WithLove 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s true too

IncredibleMrE1 9 points ago +9 / -0

Definitely going to be watching. Someone alert RSBN.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Where will you watch it?

RogueLeaderX 8 points ago +8 / -0

I think thus woman is one of like 5 Republicans trying to help them.

PickleSticks 7 points ago +7 / -0

So sad that only those 4 are rallying behind the people wrongly incarcerated. That’s all you need to know, Everyone else is a grifter, change my mind.

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Dcokes 7 points ago +7 / -0

Hey fuckstick, just a heads up, all your lefty retarded faggotry is coming to end soon. Let your boyfriend know too, even tho minors don’t really care about politics all that much

Athena86 -6 points ago +1 / -7

Very mature words for a fifteen year old.

Foomer 7 points ago +8 / -1

Oh wow, a press conference! That's better than a strongly worded letter. Because instead of writing the empty words down, she's going to speak them out loud! Gee golly, I can't wait.

kfunny91 7 points ago +7 / -0

it's unbelievable that no other republican is standing up for them!

CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

4 others.

PartTimeLoser 7 points ago +8 / -1

at least someone is trying to do something about this crazy false imprisonment.

Dcokes 7 points ago +7 / -0

Trump better show up to this. If he talked about Jan 6th prisoners one-one hundredth as much as he talked about his “incredible” vaccines it would be an improvement

Seyes 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yea, I agree. Really makes you wonder what the f is really going on. I am so tired of being treated like a retard by elected officials. Burn it down, shoot the traitors and start over.

Athena86 1 point ago +1 / -0

And if he doesn’t show up?

Arkham -3 points ago +4 / -7

sadly man, I'm losing hope on Trump. He didn't pardon his supporters, but pardon a rapper.. He's supporter are losing their job because of the vaccine mandate and he's doing nothing to help them... not going to lie, he's pissing me off... Trump in 2021 is weak.. Go ahead and down vote me, but what he's done with the vaccine mandates? People on this website are losing their jobs and he's not giving them his support. What the hell, I thought he was "for the people"? Really? How about his supporters who are endure worse abuse than Gitmo. They're being brutally beaten, stripped, hogtied, humiliated by guards, and one prisoner blinded in one eye. What if you we're one of the prisoner and you're getting beaten.. And the President that you voted for (Trump) isn't helping you? Would you still support him?????

Don't worried tho. Trump is "definitely" for the people....

"TORTURE: Jan. 6 Inmates Endure Worse Abuse Than Gitmo — Brutally Beaten, Stripped, Hogtied, Humiliated By Guards, One Prisoner Blinded In One Eye (VIDEO)" https://teaparty.org/torture-jan-6-inmates-endure-worse-abuse-than-gitmo-brutally-beaten-stripped-hogtied-humiliated-by-guards-one-prisoner-blinded-in-one-eye-video-467579/

nickybops 6 points ago +6 / -0

The fact they are locked up still almost a year later should outrage everyone. TRUMP NEEDS TO SPEAK UP MORE ON THESE PEOPLE. THEY ARE HIS PEOPLE.

_Cabal_ 1 point ago +2 / -1

They weren't his. He was theirs.

nickybops 3 points ago +3 / -0

Regardless, my point still stands.

Kane 6 points ago +6 / -0

Almost a year late.

trauncher 5 points ago +5 / -0

they should sue the administration for civil rights violations. there should be a single massive trillion dollar suit for all people who have been detained violating their civil rights, and name Pelosi, the FBI that staged the false flag, and every democrat and republican that participated.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

30 Pence.

LtPatterson 5 points ago +5 / -0

There are only four reps who care.

trump4045 4 points ago +5 / -1

More pointless political theater.

Junionthepipeline 5 points ago +5 / -0

When you come up with a better plan get on it

JohnCocktoastin 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don’t see why they don’t just subpoena the judges. Ya, it is something not done. Likely a bad box to open. But where in the Constitution does it say “federal judges are exempt from Congressional subpoenas” because I can’t find the specific article/section/clause number. If anyone has balls, they’d call the cucked judges to Congress and make them defend their bail decisions and lack of responding to legit motions on jail mistreatment.

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JohnCocktoastin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why would there not be something wrong with the bail hearings when the guys there didn't make bail for what basically amounts to property crime? We know several defendants have publicly outed cucked prosecutors for making up shit showing "violent propensity" risk and other such horse shit in order to justify indefinite detention pending trial. This is precisely why they should be called before Congress to defend these decisions. Even if it is a pandora's box.

OnlyTrump20 4 points ago +5 / -1

Well, at least someone is going to speak up for them. I wish Trump would have said something, but it's a bit too late for that now.

PonySoldier66 4 points ago +4 / -0

WHY AREN'T THERE FOUR HUNDRED "congresspersons" there ?


fuck all the rest.

TheRealJaredHolt 4 points ago +4 / -0

She is doing more for the J6 prisoners than Trump. That is incredibly disappointing.

Arkham -6 points ago +1 / -7

Sadly.. the truth.. Trump should've pardon them. But, he pardoned a rapper!??!?! Man... Trump is still trying to win the black vote.. Trump in 2021 is weak.....

CoryInTheHouse1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

All Kodak Black and Lil Wayne had were some weapons charges. They didn't deserve what they were getting

Goatboy66 4 points ago +5 / -1

The people who are responsible for Holding these People in Jail, Should Themselves be Arrested and remain in Jail for as long and under the Same conditions as they Held. Alot of these Patriots lost their jobs, their Homes and These Tyrants should lose the MORE!

CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0


PalmettoPatriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Why the FUCK are these people still detained

SFSilentNoMore 4 points ago +4 / -0

Definitely going to tune in. The 4 of these Patriots are willing to take fire and still bare down on what is right.

They have my gratitude and respect.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Where will you watch?

StadiumHopper 4 points ago +4 / -0


The country went from "Don't tread on me" to hanging banners of Marxists on buildings just like that.

Endprism 4 points ago +4 / -0

God I love this woman

Seyes 3 points ago +4 / -1

The fact that these people are still imprisoned is a disgrace. If you still believe in the judicial system of this country you are as delusional as the people that keep getting das vax put into their veins. I know I'm singing to the choir. Wow, I can't believe at 67 years old I would ever see this. BTW I was always a conservative and voted. How stupid was I.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Please don't stop voting. Can it fail? Of course. How long does it take? Other means of fighting for the next year is taking over County precincts, and contacting elected officials especially State legislators about fair elections. If midterms are stolen and 2020 isn't corrected we have only one option.

michaelrossmdwallet 3 points ago +3 / -0


FreddyThePatriot 3 points ago +8 / -5

Is she going to apologize on their behalf?

OnlyTrump20 -3 points ago +2 / -5

Yeah, let's see if she tries to cover her ass and distance herself in some way.

justinkayz 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you, MTG for doing what you can. Too bad more Republicans can't grow a spine and stand with you. There are a few, but most are cowards.

scrubking 3 points ago +3 / -0


magafren 3 points ago +3 / -0

We have ourselves a 4D chess queen

Can’t wait

JimmyNelson 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wen moar dun?

ExileOnRedditStreet 3 points ago +3 / -0

God bless these patriots

MerlynTrump 3 points ago +4 / -1

No Boebert?

QLARP 2 points ago +3 / -1

She is laying low since her backpack bomb joke.

MerlynTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

sounds like a funny joke.

Herpawinski 3 points ago +3 / -0

They are holding those people to suppress anti regime protests. They have the evidence to try them but they only do trials in dribs and drabs for propaganda purposes.

treos 3 points ago +3 / -0

this should prove interesting in a couple days. and likely cause a very warranted outrage when the truth about how those political prisoners have been treated since they were arrested.

BOBON0101 3 points ago +3 / -0


Patriotparty1971 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why wait till Tuesday 🤷.

Testosteroneape2000 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why doesn’t she do it now. They will suffer over Christmas.