how many are only 1 dose in therefore not vaccinated until 2 weeks etc? These are junk stats they spout. Don't mean a thing than to achieve a desired outcome. What is age group of those in ICUs (and comorbidities)... is the 7% elderly with multiple issues? How many constitutes 50%? 200? 50? 3?
Headlines seem to be enough for many people on all sides these days. I've seen at least a dozen posts on this board with misleading or otherwise poorly written headlines where the top comments called them out.
I still remember years ago hearing Rush Limbaugh tear apart a NYT story that had a paragraph near the end of the story that pretty much stated the exact opposite of the headline.
Do you know of any way to look at hospitalizations in the US that show percentage of vaccinated to unvaccinated? I've seen a few, but it's never enough info to dig into and figure out if it's legitimate or not.
I think there’s fuckery afoot re: gathering stats about unvax but not gathering stats about vax. In California, by public health press release, there is a claim that 99% of hospitalizations are unvax. This flies in the face of stats from other states and other countries.
Cat turd is a moron it’s not a funny thing to laugh about.
Anyone can read the original studies - the vax gives a modest degree of protection over a short time window, while giving 50%+ of that benefit back in the form of serious side effects.
"...95% received at least 1 dose, and 93% received both doses..."
No mention of Boosters, which would be interesting, but Australia was slower and later to Vaccinate their population so we can assume less wanning immunity.
Also from the article
"Authorities are currently not separating cases in ICU between those who are sick due to Covid, from those who are in there for another reason and also happen to have Covid."
So this is just people in the ICU. Does not say why, or if they are being treated for COVID or just happen to have COVID. Maybe they don't want to reveal those numbers cause The Narative, but that is speculation.
"Authorities are currently not separating cases in ICU between those who are sick due to Covid, from those who are in there for another reason and also happen to have Covid."
It's a YUGE difference. Pt with a broken femur - admitted for the fracture, but also tests positive for Covid. Pt admitted for alcohol withdrawals - happens to test positive for Covid. Infant admitted for respiratory distress - this one really was Covid caused pneumonia. Pt admitted for blood sugar over 800 - happened to test positive for Covid. Pt with a broken finger whose infection is going to require surgery is admitted, happens to test positive for Covid.
I'm sure the government will classify them all as Covid patients for statistical purposes.
The point is, the vaccines were marketed to the public as more or less 100% efficacious in preventing severe disease and death. This statistic proves that portion of the narrative was utterly false and that the medical establishment is grossly incompetent or liars.
Also in the UK and Scotland the % covid associated hospitalizations and deaths among the vaccinated (60-80% depending on the week) approach their respective proportions of the total population
Pfizer CEO just came out the other day and said that the first two jabs are basically useless but the third jab offers some protection against severe illness and death, but it doesn’t do much to prevent infection.
But you really need to try their omnomnomnomicron vaccine that ones 100% they promise - preorder now, shipping in March!
The jab and subsequent boosters can’t keep pace with the mutations that may very well be prompted by the jab itself. So there are two schools of thought on how to proceed: continue administering experimental technology with no knowledge of the long term side effects, or allow the virus to run its natural course, claim some lives, and achieve herd immunity by natural exposure, putting an emphasis on therapies that the government knew worked all along. Sweden chose the latter strategy and are doing fine relative to their neighbors.
Your first point needs to be made much more in my opinion. It's entirely possible the jab is CAUSING the mutations.
In either event, we always should have gone with the natural approach. Humanity has survived much, much more dangerous viruses than this one. Yet we're the first generation that shut down the world and imposed tyranny because of it.
There logic here is that 7% of the "unvaccinated" are taking up half the ICU space while the 93% of vaccinated are taking up the other half therefore the ratios show that unvaccinated are at higher risk.
Do they even mention if they are even referring to just Covid patients?
If 100% of their Covid patients are vaccinated and the icu is filled with 50% Covid patients that “stat” would still be true while completely misleading.
This is why I don’t care about any of the numbers anymore. It’s all bullshit
My issue with that is that I don't know how they count anything.
Are the unvaxed in hospital with COVID, or from it? Are single and double vaxed and not boosted not counted as vaxed or unvaxed? If they're admitted less then two weeks after their 2nd shot or booster, are they considered unvaxed?
There's been so many cases of data manipulation/selective counting I really just don't trust a presentation of a flat percentage at all.
Thanks mate, so it's inflated to start with... But there's still the 'How many Fauci Ouchies does it take to be vaccinated' and when does it count as fully vaxxxed.
I had some moron tell me that unvaccinated people should be barred from being hospitalized. I asked why and he was like, “because they made a choice”. I asked why he thinks that, because a nurse told him that.
Don’t forget, they tally people who have gotten 1 shot, 2 shots, have yet to get a booster, and people whose last injection was less than a week ago as unvaccinated. And before long, they might count those that aren’t triple-jabbed as unvaccinated as well.
In other news, starvation is the new fad diet. Rodents and Insects are high in protein as potential food stuffs, and the new Soylant Foods Corporation founded in Belgium is planning a new Green Division specializing in recycled human beings.
I think Omicron is being conflated with vaccine injury. I think people that have had a jab within the last 14 days are more likely to be hospitalized. In this country they will be counted as partially or unvaccinated
It's working because it's supposed to be killing us.
Purebloods!
Superstraight, pureblood and proud American
Totally forgot all about Superstraight!
Thanks, you wonderful pede!
PUREBLOOD! say you want me, want me, out of your life, but I'm just a pe-de walking tonight!
Leftism: from soy to GMO in three easy honks.
We'll have to start calling them GMNPCs.
What they mean is forcing people to get the shot is working.
We called it!!!
Are people outside of 6 months now "mud bloods" and the sheep "muggles"? ;-)
Voldemort was a mudblood.
No wonder he split himself up so much.... didn't wanna die from the Faux-chee Jab.
how many are only 1 dose in therefore not vaccinated until 2 weeks etc? These are junk stats they spout. Don't mean a thing than to achieve a desired outcome. What is age group of those in ICUs (and comorbidities)... is the 7% elderly with multiple issues? How many constitutes 50%? 200? 50? 3?
Headlines seem to be enough for many people on all sides these days. I've seen at least a dozen posts on this board with misleading or otherwise poorly written headlines where the top comments called them out.
I still remember years ago hearing Rush Limbaugh tear apart a NYT story that had a paragraph near the end of the story that pretty much stated the exact opposite of the headline.
Thanks, I was curious how the article would justify it.
It seems like a dirty car salesman trying to sell a lemon.
Do you know of any way to look at hospitalizations in the US that show percentage of vaccinated to unvaccinated? I've seen a few, but it's never enough info to dig into and figure out if it's legitimate or not.
You have to look at UK, Scotland, Israel. US data are terrible
I think there’s fuckery afoot re: gathering stats about unvax but not gathering stats about vax. In California, by public health press release, there is a claim that 99% of hospitalizations are unvax. This flies in the face of stats from other states and other countries.
What's the point of reiterating a false point built on fake numbers. Lending any sort of validity to the argument is feeding into their hand.
Cat turd is a moron it’s not a funny thing to laugh about.
Anyone can read the original studies - the vax gives a modest degree of protection over a short time window, while giving 50%+ of that benefit back in the form of serious side effects.
From the Article:
"...95% received at least 1 dose, and 93% received both doses..."
No mention of Boosters, which would be interesting, but Australia was slower and later to Vaccinate their population so we can assume less wanning immunity.
Also from the article
"Authorities are currently not separating cases in ICU between those who are sick due to Covid, from those who are in there for another reason and also happen to have Covid."
So this is just people in the ICU. Does not say why, or if they are being treated for COVID or just happen to have COVID. Maybe they don't want to reveal those numbers cause The Narative, but that is speculation.
It's a YUGE difference. Pt with a broken femur - admitted for the fracture, but also tests positive for Covid. Pt admitted for alcohol withdrawals - happens to test positive for Covid. Infant admitted for respiratory distress - this one really was Covid caused pneumonia. Pt admitted for blood sugar over 800 - happened to test positive for Covid. Pt with a broken finger whose infection is going to require surgery is admitted, happens to test positive for Covid.
I'm sure the government will classify them all as Covid patients for statistical purposes.
The devil's in the details. If they aren't telling you, it means the numbers are catastrophic for their agenda.
Yup. When the news agencies are full of "activist" journalists, nothing they say can be trusted and everything has an agenda.
I miss the days when the news attempted to, you know, tell you the facts and let you make up your own mind.
While true. I'd wager that most people willing to get vaxxed got vaxxed long ago already. There are ever fewer holdover that submit as time goes on.
The point is, the vaccines were marketed to the public as more or less 100% efficacious in preventing severe disease and death. This statistic proves that portion of the narrative was utterly false and that the medical establishment is grossly incompetent or liars.
Also in the UK and Scotland the % covid associated hospitalizations and deaths among the vaccinated (60-80% depending on the week) approach their respective proportions of the total population
Pfizer CEO just came out the other day and said that the first two jabs are basically useless but the third jab offers some protection against severe illness and death, but it doesn’t do much to prevent infection.
But you really need to try their omnomnomnomicron vaccine that ones 100% they promise - preorder now, shipping in March!
Yes that was crazy—we are testing it now, but it will be out in March. What if when you test it you discover it’s useless and hurts people?!
Then it really will be an upgrade lol. The current one doesn’t work and kills and hurts people
The jab and subsequent boosters can’t keep pace with the mutations that may very well be prompted by the jab itself. So there are two schools of thought on how to proceed: continue administering experimental technology with no knowledge of the long term side effects, or allow the virus to run its natural course, claim some lives, and achieve herd immunity by natural exposure, putting an emphasis on therapies that the government knew worked all along. Sweden chose the latter strategy and are doing fine relative to their neighbors.
Your first point needs to be made much more in my opinion. It's entirely possible the jab is CAUSING the mutations.
In either event, we always should have gone with the natural approach. Humanity has survived much, much more dangerous viruses than this one. Yet we're the first generation that shut down the world and imposed tyranny because of it.
And by intentionally suppressing known therapeutics, it was clearly never about health in the first place, which only leaves evil intent
I understand, but that still means nothing. Especially with what we now know about Covid.
The same people that are currently in the ICU with or without vax, would still be the same people in the ICU.
Lies, damned lies, and statistics!
It’s been exposed that they will give ivermectin to the vaccinated and not the unvaxed in NSW hospitals. To give the illusion the vax works
I saw that
I didn’t know how to save vids so it’s memory holed now I guess
Yep they ripped them down from Twitter, Facebook and instagram. Don’t worry fren, I got it https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/19/nurse-claims-fully-vaccinated-covid-19-patients-are-being-treated-with-ivermectin/
Bloody legend
Btw it was a dif vid I saw but same context. Good work man
HEalTHy AT ANy sizE
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/why-half-of-the-people-in-intensive-care-in-nsw-are-vaccinated/news-story/e935619886f9b4c4346b57e2d5744d1a
There logic here is that 7% of the "unvaccinated" are taking up half the ICU space while the 93% of vaccinated are taking up the other half therefore the ratios show that unvaccinated are at higher risk.
Do they even mention if they are even referring to just Covid patients?
If 100% of their Covid patients are vaccinated and the icu is filled with 50% Covid patients that “stat” would still be true while completely misleading.
This is why I don’t care about any of the numbers anymore. It’s all bullshit
My issue with that is that I don't know how they count anything.
Are the unvaxed in hospital with COVID, or from it? Are single and double vaxed and not boosted not counted as vaxed or unvaxed? If they're admitted less then two weeks after their 2nd shot or booster, are they considered unvaxed?
There's been so many cases of data manipulation/selective counting I really just don't trust a presentation of a flat percentage at all.
They stated they count all 'with covid' and 'because covid' in the same count.
Thanks mate, so it's inflated to start with... But there's still the 'How many Fauci Ouchies does it take to be vaccinated' and when does it count as fully vaxxxed.
It’s 100% affective when you die.
🤣🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Look at that perfectly healthy neck oozing out from under the mask.
VAIDS is real fellas
See, we have always been at war with Eurasia.
Ooof. Brilliant tribute to 1984 sir. 🐸
"I'm in the ICU dying!"
"Hush now, that means it's working."
Annnndddd the picture is of an Obese man. Surprise surprise
I had some moron tell me that unvaccinated people should be barred from being hospitalized. I asked why and he was like, “because they made a choice”. I asked why he thinks that, because a nurse told him that.
Half my ass, probably 80% or 90%.
They're actually being honest for a change. It's doing what it's intended to.
What would it take to mean it isn't working??
Don’t forget, they tally people who have gotten 1 shot, 2 shots, have yet to get a booster, and people whose last injection was less than a week ago as unvaccinated. And before long, they might count those that aren’t triple-jabbed as unvaccinated as well.
The cooks are booked.
Bingo
It's way higher than "half" of ICU patients got the clot shot. They're faking these numbers just like they've faked every number this whole time.
Look, its obese. Just sayin'.
Wait, what even could their justification be?
In their defense, it is working as planned.
Love the WEF Great Reset logo next to their username.
Nice touch
Very effective
Guys it's working when you end up in the hospital!
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!
In other news, starvation is the new fad diet. Rodents and Insects are high in protein as potential food stuffs, and the new Soylant Foods Corporation founded in Belgium is planning a new Green Division specializing in recycled human beings.
Holy shit....Idiocracy
50/50 is the most clear evidence it has no effect either way, but still carries all the risks of AEs.
Imagine being in the ICU and knowing you are a sacrifice
It's like the alien book "How to Serve Humans..."
This is meme magic right in front of your eyes frens. Bask in the power of Kek.
What?
We all need to give thanks everyday that we were not born in Australia or Canada.
This is unbelievable to witness
Here's why permanent heart damage is a good thing.
They’ve already convinced millions that programming your body to produce the toxic spike protein is a “good thing”, so… 🤷♂️
But when I say it, I'm a "conspiracy theorist"
Depends on what job it was intended to do.
That's a staged photo, I recon.
Hey at least this staged photo wasn’t a mannequin missing arms
Fuck your shit-in-a-syringe!
Insert "Akshually..." meme here.
The vaxxed are immune to thinking
I won't read that cancer, what is the logic?
"Most people are vaxxed, so 50/50 means the vax is better than nothing!"
But no distinction between with covid/from covid, no clarification to how many shots counts as vaxxed, a lot of nothing.
I think Omicron is being conflated with vaccine injury. I think people that have had a jab within the last 14 days are more likely to be hospitalized. In this country they will be counted as partially or unvaccinated
The usual bullshit, that it would be worse without the vaxx.
They fudge the numbers and stats, but it is just gaslighting to calm normies from waking up
No the fuck it doesnt
Who are you going to believe? Me, or your lying eyes?