Which is why I donât believe healthcare should be free and provided by the government.
Should there be some sort of reform in how expensive healthcare is? Yes. Should it be free? No. Any time something is free, itâs usually dogshit, which is why itâs free
Keep in mind the town doctor usually didnât spend 8 years at school just to be a doctor. Even as early as the 1900âs most doctors were apprentices that took up the trade. Would be nice to find a based Doctor not indebted to a university.
Tractor supply, get the horse paste that ONLY contains ivermectin. 200 pound person takes a 250lb equivalent dose for light dosing. 0.2-0.6mg/kg per iMASK routine by FLCCC.
I have lost all respect for doctors and they showed what they are really about in this scamdemic. I hope I never need the services of my local doctors and hopefully there will be time to seek out honest doctors instead of the corrupt, vaccine pimps we have now.
What lmao. Insurance companies donât dictate the prices towards Medicare/Medicaid. The government setâs max payouts for those and the hospitals have to abide by those prices or refuse to cover those governmental insurances.
Yup. I was a medical worker for a decade and used to laugh at those $8 Band-Aids the hospital would charge the insurance companies. It's so out of control that I don't think anyone can fix it now.
Ran my hand over a broken beer bottle that was in a 6 pack on a shelf. Opened my finger up nice and clean. Drove to a hospital 5 min from the store. Sat in the ER for 3 hours waiting my turn because I said my pain was only âa 2â
Got seen by a doc. 15 min. Iodine wipe. Local anesthetic. 3 quick sutures.
Do you think doctors or nurses would intentionally harm us when they find out we are unvaccinated? Are they that crazy with the injections and if it comes to that we are in an unrecognizable world dealing with prison doctors than real doctors.
I'm not an expert on this by any means, but I did spend a year dealing with billing at a small clinic. I would say that, at the very least, our current system adds a large amount of administrative overhead.
Also, it seemed to me that the insurance companies would deny every single claim at least once, no matter what it was, just as a matter of policy.
Not really. Insurance is what saves you from paying a shit ton of money towards the hospital. The insurance and hospitals meet to settle on a certain maximum amount the hospitals can charge the insurance companies i.e you. Thatâs why thereâs out of network and in network hospitals/providers on your insurance. If hospitals drop their prices then both the consumer and insurance companies would be happy because it saves you both money.
If everyone walking into Walmart had a million dollars in his pocket, a pound of butter would cost $40,000. Everyone with "insurance" entering a hospital "appears" to have a million dollars in their pocket.
The big problem is in the fact that many people "share" that appearance which makes one million dollars act like 150 million dollars to the healthcare market. This drives prices through the roof.
A truly "affordable healthcare law" would simply outlaw health insurance completely.
Our leaders have become something other than human by allowing this genocide to take place under their watch. Big Pharma is bribing them with money and stocks to turn a blind eye.
Our leaders have become something other than human by allowing this genocide to take place under their watch. Big Pharma is bribing them with money and stocks to turn a blind eye.
I was told by HR in an e-mail, that I needed to have my mask on while sitting at my desk by myself. This was right before the SCOTUS ruling. I was prepared to lose my job of 6 years.
The thing is the doctors and nurses hold all the power. What are the hospitals gonna do hire untrained people to do it? If they all quit the hospitals are powerless.
The majority ruling explicitly states medical and religious exemptions must be followed. If you or anyone you know is in the medical community, FIND A LAWYER. You will win in most parts of the country.
Allowing the health case worker mandate to continue shows how much this ruling is hairsplitting over processes rather than really protecting individual rights, or cutting through the nonsense of corrupt politicized âguidelinesâ being used to subvert self-autonomy.
Heathcare work is one of he largest sectors of the economy â and thereâs no real reason the same disconnected justifications canât be extended to any other industry.
It also sends the message to companies that are tied to government contracts like the Healthcare worker industry. If you want those contracts in the future you might want to please the boss. Would hate for those contracts to get lost in the mail? Biden is a bitter, mean POS and he will break any law, norm, or contract just to send a message to the public. There are consequences when you don't obey the Party and no one individual or business stands above the Party.
This splitting of hairs sends that message and it leaves it open to interpretation so businesses can use this decision as an excuse to fire people so they can appease Biden and keep federal contracts. The SC gave them a loophole that weak minded, and Democrat leaning CEO's will use.
Should of been a slam dunk decision but the Deep State only gave them a Buy one Get one free deal. Glad Roberts went with this one but I feel bad for the nurses and health care workers that will be fired.
Sounds easy, but it is not. Most lawyers won't take the case without the EEOC giving you a "right to sue" letter. My daughter filed a complaint in November for her exception being denied at the hospital she worked at. The hospital also let her go in November and we have heard nothing but "pending" from the EEOC for two months.
People are done with the Democrats and are jumping ship to our side. The scamdemic is over and now it is time to make the Democrats pay. The whole shit show is about to explode. The world knows the November 3rd election was stolen and the January 6th rally was an FBI coup.
I traveled in the Soviet Bloc during the Cold War - seeing AK toting soldiers everywhere was the norm. Of course, those were ethnically homogeneous communities. In the USA, our commie soldiers will keep to the White suburbs and safe spots where they won't encounter the "joys of diversity"
Yes, I travelled Russia and Ukraine in the 90's. AK toting soldiers were the norm in the cities.
Only interaction I had with them was when I wanted to take some pictures of the architecture at the Moscow train station. After they figured out I was an American and not a likely terrorist everything was cool.
People are done with the Democrats and are jumping ship to our side. The scamdemic is over and now it is time to make the Democrats pay. The whole shit show is about to explode. The world knows the November 3rd election was stolen and the January 6th rally was an FBI coup.
People are done with the Democrats and are jumping ship to our side. The scamdemic is over and now it is time to make the Democrats pay. The whole shit show is about to explode. The world knows the November 3rd election was stolen and the January 6th rally was an FBI coup.
Don't count on it, this covid crap is here to stay. Even if the coast is clear, you still have tons of bullshit to deal with like admin threatening your hours and position every week through budget cuts and whatever the libtard board members have up their asses that week.
I got so tired of this shit after a decade that I left and never went back to "saving lives", because the one life that is most important to me is mine.
I've heard stories, will look into places before I apply to them and take a job, if issues arise I've never been afraid to make a change of direction or location
Big Pharma and the Democrat Party always planned that this would take 5 years with or without a vaccine. They planned to take their time rolling out a vaccine and since Trump forced the issue they produced something that really didn't work.
Pretty much this. Then the commies run with it and their own party flocks to get infected with rainbow gene juice? Remember the illegals leaping over the fence aren't required or mandated, yet we are? Hrmm. Are the Krats willing to sacrifice nearly their entire base within 5 years and replace them with the illegals? Are the illegals supposed to kill off the rest of us?
These people stay up all night scheming this shit in between sacrifices, rituals and deeply troubling magical workings that would make Crowley blush.
never thought about are the illegals here to kill off the rest of us. They might be releasing real criminals that might be rewarded for scalps of conservatives and paid by a quota system. the more crimes and murders you can commit is how much your Christmas bonus is.
I wonder if those third world countries prisons are empty like Castro did in the late 70s. Democrats and biden don't care and they will probably kill more Democrats than conservatives unless biden flies them directly into red states and provides them with homes.
Covidian doctors and nurses scare the shit out of me and if I see one of those "Get the Jab" buttons on them I am going to just leave because once they find out I am unvaccinated they are going to slip something in my IV.
Legally they can't, but probably will. These people are insane cultists. Now we know how these people think and operate out of their inner circles. I thought Heaven's Gate was kind of funny in a dark humor vein, but these Covidian Clowns are dangerous to even be around, let alone admit myself into their chamber of doom.
It sounds just like Nazi Germany. Get the sheep to embrace the insanity, have the academics and the medical community to believe in the plan (Eugenics) and then start eliminating the non-believers or like Hillary likes to say the "deplorables." It really now is a cult. Stay away from Hitler doctors and nurses.
Seen that, one I'm heading into hasn't or at least yet. Seen some students and staff without masks on when I went by to meet with an advisor so hopefully a sign this one isn't looking to require it, moving forward now if it becomes an issue I'll look for a way to deal with it
I think the clinical sites you'll have to train at will require it. Sorry to burst your bubble. As far as I know in Massachusetts most of the clinical sites aren't allowing any religious exemptions for students.
There are a lot of based health-care workers I am sorry for who shouldn't be forced to get the clot shot. Do you want to be treated ONLY by brainwashed, vaxed doctors, surgeons and nurses? I don't. We need good people in the system and this is going to chase them out.
This is either going to lead to more private healthcare by healthcare pros, or single-payer/government healthcare for all. I hope that capitalism wins over communism on this front.
I wish that were the case, but almost all of the state medical boards are left wing/corrupt and will suspend or terminate the licenses of conservatives who get out of line. It's a real problem. Physician here by the way.
How do we fight this? I've heard the same from my doctor, who is quietly based as hell.
Long term, we need to do like they do, and silently infiltrate. Same with school boards. Take them back as well, though those be easier based on we just need to show up and vote for the board members instead of being lazy.
Doctors have a lot to lose from having their medical license revoked. That makes it almost impossible to take a stand.
I read that doctors are afraid to write medical vaccine exemptions. The patient shows the medical exemption to the employer, then the employer complains to the medical licensing board, and then they threaten to revoke the doctor's license if he keeps writing exemptions.
I would hate to be a doctor and know that I have caused injury or death to a person in the community. You will always feel guilty by ruining their lives because they were afraid to speak out because they were fearful to what the Democrat Party would do to them or the pushback from Big Pharma. Maybe they don't care at all which would be terrible to think but they are approaching Nazi like in promoting injections.
As a young physician, I'm close to half a million dollars in debt from school (between me and my husband). I can't exactly "take a stand" and will probably just have to find a new career.
I'm sure this is a good day for most of you, but it's horrific for me.
So much respect to you. I am not sure I would take a stand. Actually I know I wouldn't. But then again I have kids already. That debt will be a joke to you someday hopefully. The mandate is only for certain medical establishments I read. Can you go to another state? Or some hospital that doesn't require it? Would your medical degree be recognized in Sweden or Japan? Treat western patients in Japan. Investment banking would take a Doctor? I just pray all this pain brings out something better in the future for our society.
Yea this fn blows. Been working in healthcare for years. Im not even worried about the current set of jabs as much as I am jab 20. They already ram the influenza shit down your throat every year. Make no mistake this will be annual as well. The heart can only take so many poundings.
I would hate to be a doctor and know that I have caused injury or death to a person in the community. You will always feel guilty by ruining their lives because they were afraid to speak out because they were fearful to what the Democrat Party would do to them or the pushback from Big Pharma. Maybe they don't care at all which would be terrible to think but they are approaching Nazi like in promoting injections.
We're going to fight for you guys, and all Americans who should have BODY AUTONOMY. Nobody in any job or position should be forced to put something they don't want in their body.
Huh? I thought women enjoyed creepy old guys who cover their faces penetrating them with a squirting shaft against their will to maintain employment. Wasnât that the whole point of #MeToo?
The gov mandates testing yet can't supply the tests.
I'm pushing for everyone to get tested daily. What's the point getting tested after you're symptomatic, after you've exposed everyone? Get tested daily, twice a day if you're smart.
So hopefully, normies realize that government can't manage a simple operation like testing, no fucking way you should let them manage your diabetes, cancer, fatass, depression, brain damage/transsexualism, etc.
No it won't, Big Pharma has the government as it's bitch. All the red tap bureaucracy is why the fucking health care industry is in the shit hole it is in. For 100 years CRONY capitalism has been grooming and growing the medical field in the US. If you think that somehow 100 years worth of laws is just going to magically vanish and "capitalism" will fix itself, you have no clue how fucked up the industry is and just how much authority the government and bureaucrats have. Crony capitalism is NOT capitalism, it's basically the same shitty communism that the fucking Chinese have.
The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
I would hate to be a doctor and know that I have caused injury or death to a person in the community. You will always feel guilty by ruining their lives because they were afraid to speak out because they were fearful to what the Democrat Party would do to them or the pushback from Big Pharma. Maybe they don't care at all which would be terrible to think but they are approaching Nazi like in promoting injections.
The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
Maybe cash-only would work for payment, but no physician or other provider is going to practice without liability insurance.
What do you think doctors and nurses will do to the unvaccinated when we go in for an elective surgery? Would they do us harm because we disagreed with their advice on injections and boosters? The medical establishment scares me now and I am taking care of my health to avoid going there at all costs.
Hey, great question. I summarized my thoughts in a longer post here already, have a look and let me know. In short, I think they would just deny care, rather than accept you as a patient then harm you.
Wrong. There are based healthcare workers that specifically sought out work in a state without any jab mandates, at employers with no jab mandates, have never pushed a jab, and have treated patients for their jab side effects.
Imagine being denied life-saving care by those npc fuckbrains because you're White, male, Christian, intelligent, grounded in reality, etc. We've already seen that behavior going on from the start of this plamdemic hoax but imagine it becoming official policy
I basically just avoid doctors. I may have broken my toe recently, but I'm fine. I will be walking in the side of my foot for a month or two, but nature nows how to fix itself.
Same. But I have family members who have severe issues who need good medical care. All of this bullsh%t still touches us all in some way. That's why we fight for each other, because we are also fighting for ourself. Everyone is connected.
Paige, what do you say to woman who are all for abortions but when it comes to vaccinations they are pro-vaccines and the "my body, my choice" goes out the window.
Once they got that "essential worker hero label there was no coming back. I find nurses to be much more covidian when pushing the injections. I really am afraid if I ever land in a hospital and they find out I am unvaccinated what they will do to me to punish me for having a thinking brain.
The bad news is they obviously recognize Congress's authority to impose a jab mandate, seemingly regardless of how effective or safe that jab may be. But that's a problem for another day.
They can only cheat so much, get themselves a few extra % here and there. They can't turn 60% against to a win, I mean, perhaps they can, but not often.
People are done with the Democrats and are jumping ship to our side. The scamdemic is over and now it is time to make the Democrats pay. The whole shit show is about to explode. The world knows the November 3rd election was stolen and the January 6th rally was an FBI coup.
Unfortunately it looks like this isn't a decisive opinion, it's only granting the temporary stay and allowing the litigation to continue in lower federal courts.
And in granting the stay, SCOTUS explains why the applicants are likely to prevail on the merits. This signals the Supreme Court's legal reasoning on the merits.
So even though SCOTUS didn't actually rule on the merits, if the 6th Circuit were to rule differently and allow OSHA to impose the mandate, the door would be open for the plaintiffs to appeal to SCOTUS again.
TLDR: It's really unlikely that the 6th Circuit will use different legal reasoning than than the Supreme Court when they eventually hear the full case.
How does that work? So the 9th Circuit decides "fuck you and your freedom" and reinstates the mandates. Now it comes back to SCOTUS where they do exactly what?
I would hate to be a doctor and know that I have caused injury or death to a person in the community. You will always feel guilty by ruining their lives because they were afraid to speak out because they were fearful to what the Democrat Party would do to them or the pushback from Big Pharma. Maybe they don't care at all which would be terrible to think but they are approaching Nazi like in promoting injections.
The 6th circuit decides whether or not OSHA is following the Constitution which supposedly takes more time. In the meantime, the Supreme Court issued this stay which blocks OSHA.
After 6th circuit decides that OSHA is following the Constitution and allows it to continue (let's be honest, that will happen), plaintiffs appeal to the Supreme Court. SCOTUS grants/denies appeal and decides on the constitutionality then.
That's likely not to happen actually. The opinion is clear for the 6th, and even if they tried it, SCOTUS would quickly overturn again. So they know it's moot
All these entities (NFIB, Texas, whatever) sue OSHA in US appeals court.
US appeals courts decide to consolidate all the lawsuits into one big one and randomly choose the 6th circuit to hear and judge the constitutionality of the mandate.
NFIB, Texas, etc. petition the 6th circuit for a "stay" (a temporary order) banning OSHA from enforcing the mandate until the 6th circuit determines constitutionality.
6th circuit says "gtfo".
NFIB, Texas, etc. appeal to SCOTUS, asking for a stay, preventing OSHA from enforcing the mandate until the 6th circuit determines constitutionality.
SCOTUS says yes.
-- today we are here
6th circuit eventually hears and makes a decision on whether or not OSHA is constitutional.
6th circuit probably rules "yes it is constitutional".
NFIB, Texas, etc. appeal to SCOTUS because they disagree.
SCOTUS either takes up the case or says "gtfo". If SCOTUS says "gtfo", the temporary stay is gone, and workers have to get their Fauci Ouchies.
If SCOTUS takes up the case, SCOTUS determines constitutionality.
If SCOTUS decides that it is constitutional, workers have to get their Fauci Ouchies.
If SCOTUS decides that it is not constitutional, we celebrate and OSHA can go pound sand.
No, the case being punted back to the federal courts is still about the federal mandate, it's just that the emergency stay is active again pending the results of that litigation.
Fuck Scotus cuckfags and commies. Partial victory in one case, vs total loss in many others. They haven't stopped the steady march toward tyranny America has been on for the last 200 odd years. Barely slowed it down at all. In fact, they've made things a lot worse more often than not.
Dumb take, who will implement anything if you get a good candidate in the White House? This is why trumps agenda got stalled at every point, because of liberal feds, liberal contractors, liberal generals, and liberal intelligence agencies. These people are unelected and impossible to fire. Youâre shooting yourself in the face on this take
Well itâs going to exist whether you like it or not and allowing it to be 100% weaponized against you is so stupid. Good luck repealing anything when every federal department slow walks any rulings or when the DOJ writes executive orders in a way that will be struck down in court because the people writing it want it to be (which is what happened to every trump EO)
Not just federal employees. Anyone who works for a company - public or private - that has federal contracts is still on the hook apparently. Thatâs fucked.
Roberts is a fucking cuck. Always has been. Kavanaugh is too, but it hurts more because people stuck up for him and Trump appointed him, so we expected more balls. Too much cucking shrank his balls to pea size.
Edit: as is he ever raped anyone, LOL, his flaccid extension couldn't rape anything.
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
I would hate to be a doctor and know that I have caused injury or death to a person in the community. You will always feel guilty by ruining their lives because they were afraid to speak out because they were fearful to what the Democrat Party would do to them or the pushback from Big Pharma. Maybe they don't care at all which would be terrible to think but they are approaching Nazi like in promoting injections.
Sets the precedent for extreme cucking IMO with the healthcare decision, because that basically says if you receive a single cent from the federal government you have to do and inject literally anything they say.
I donât think theyâve ruled on the federal contractor mandate yet. But that one is especially fucked because it attempts to regulate employees who share a workspace with people who work on federal contracts.
Letâs say your company has 5 floors in an office. The people who work on federal contracts are on the 2nd floor and you work on the 4th floor. You have no contact with the people working on federal contracts except maybe sharing an elevator or parking garage. Surprise! You fall under the mandate.
My co designated the entire workforce as contractors because the gov is a large customer....so they're still using the EO as their basis for requiring. Hope that gets taken care of soon.
On December 7, 2021, the US District Court for the Southern District of Georgia granted a preliminary injunction to temporarily halt the enforcement of the Biden administrationâs vaccine mandate for government contractors nationwide. The court held that President Bidenâs executive order likely exceeded his authority under the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act, 40 U.S.C. § 101 et seq.
In his decision, Judge Baker stated the âdirect impactâ of President Bidenâs executive order âgoes beyond the administration and management of procurement and contracting; in its practical application ⊠it operates as a regulation of public health.â[1] The injunction prevents enforcement of the vaccine mandate for prime contractors and subcontractors on all covered contracts âin any state or territory of the United States of America.â
"Comrade Pooh, we have disturbing news from the USA! They are replacing all their soldiers with trannies! With their suicide rates, it will be impossible for our soldiers to kill any of them!"
People are done with the Democrats and are jumping ship to our side. The scamdemic is over and now it is time to make the Democrats pay. The whole shit show is about to explode. The world knows the November 3rd election was stolen and the January 6th rally was an FBI coup.
Yeah, my union told me it was impossible, but somehow usps managed it. I asked if I could switch to the usps union and the union rep did not find it funny.
Unions tend to have only one or two goals, while ignoring everything else about the job. UAW for instance is only there to make their guys money. 23 an hour for simple labor, 12 hours a day 6 days a week mandatory with ensured OT potential on top of that. And everything past 48 hours a week is double OT. So now 23 an hour is 6 figures minimum.
I work for a federal agency. The majority of my office is based vets, including myself (and one contractor who is in the reserves). This also includes my direct leadership. I wonât disclose what I do, but I feel itâs for a better cause than most agencies. Many of us have submitted religious exemption requests (the forms word it as religious âexceptionâ), and so far no one has heard anything, but weâre supposed to have interviews about it. According to my supervisor, something like 35% or more of our department has filed for religious exemptions, and theyâre probably backed up with paperwork.
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
We don't even get federal funding. It's anyone that accepts medicare/medicaid as insurance. Which pays WORSE than regular insurance. It's not a fucking favor or a grant.
The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
Once you start to see them not talking about the election you know it is a done deal, just like Biden going into the basement for the last 2 months of the campaign, the UniParty just signs off on it just like the steal on November 3rd.
Me too. Many double and triple jabbed coworkers catching Covid right now. Openly saying they won't take another jab. We'll see where this goes, and if there will be another round of firings. Some curious if a religious exemption will be accepted if they have already taken 2 shots. My state is mandating the booster or unpaid administrative leave.
Sign up for a travel company. They care more about money than mandates. They let me sign a religious exemption no problem. Plus sheâll get paid about 3-5x more. And half of her paycheck will be untaxed so she wonât be funding the govt as much
Im having trouble finding contracts accepting exemptions idc if this wipl change that but it may. Are you having luck finding contracts accepting exemptions?
I signed up last June back when the mandates were âconspiracy theoryâ. Every hospital is understaffed, especially in my profession. They were already desperate before Covid and now tons of people left cause of the mandates or to travel so Iâve been at the same hospital this entire time. Fortunately Iâm nights and none of the management gives a shit about any of it and the day shift ones just pretend too. I remember the director came in and gave the bullshit mandate speech and at the end I was like âwhen did Biden get his medical degree to practice medicine on the entire country?â And the director was like âexactly!â And then told me to see her later so we could discuss politics more lol. Anyways my company just let me fill out âreligious/personal exemptionâ and I checked a box and signed and dated it and they havenât bothered me since. They just renenewed my contract for another 13 weeks. They pay a ton and I have a girlfriend here and they donât bother me about masks or vax so Iâll just keep renewing. They are already short staffed by about 60% and honestly itâs tough as fuck work, but as long as they donât bother me, Iâm not taking chances elsewhere. But I do know this, ever since the mandate, weâve had a grand total of 0 applications (management is very vocal about this) and several people quit over it. Nursing is terribly short too, I canât even get them to answer their phones for criticals cause theyâre all taking care of twice the normal load of patients. Eventually enough people will leave cause the workload is too hard and they canât take care of patients properly (I feel this way sometimes.) and eventually the hospitals are going to have to reverse these mandates. Too many people have come too far to get it now and the ones who did get it donât want more. More people are waking up and Joe rogan did a huge service to that. I know people at work who got it and regret it because they felt coerced into getting it. All the vaccinated are starting to get sick with Covid and Iâm just like âtold ya so. It doesnât work.â Things will change, it just depends how far Americans are willing to bend. Fortunately Biden is putting the country in a Vice grip and accelerating that (rising prices, nothing in the store, supplies for companies running dry, rising gas prices, vax mandates to eat/work etc) so now we as a country just need to ask ourselves, how far are we willing to bend? How uncomfortable are we willing to let it get? And I think most of us have subconsciously weighed that decision knowing that when we do fight back, there will be a time of food shortages and civil unrest and lots of violence. So Biden has to make america worse than that for us to finally say âenough is enough. If weâre going to live like this, we might as well do it on our terms and take back our countryâ and itâs coming quick. BLM riots, gas prices rise 100% in less than a fucking year. Food shortages that even Twitter is noticing. EVERYTHING cost more and your money is worth less. Biden is worse for this country than 9/11, heâs doing what the taliban never could and destroying the very core of America without firing a single shot and tripping up the stairs while doing it.
Im am basically in the same situation, my facility accepted excemption and keeps renewing been here since july and have been waiting it out. I was getting ancy and wanting a change but my recruiter says she is having trouble placing unvaxxed which makes me nervous. Ill keep renewing, hopefully the WHO statement and lack of effective variant vaccines kinda make this dissapear but are they going to contiue claming each lesser severity variant is an emergency requiring mandatory boosters? How far does this go?
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
Isn't a final decision. Is a stay/non-state while other courts work it out.
Basically court is saying this isn't relevant to most peoples jobs, so they are likely to succeed in stopping the rule for most jobs, so they will pause for now. But, healthcare rules are relevant to healthcare jobs, so there's a chance the rule will stand, so we will not stay it.
Although healthcare people were dealt a hit, isn't a knockout.
not good enough. Losers didn't protect the health care workers. Also, this is only for the stay. They didn't rule on the merits. Don't get too excited. They could (and probably will) backtrack and cuck like the 6th circuit. They are the bought and paid for supreme court CUCKstices.
Because Congress passed 100 billion laws controlling every aspect of healthcare already including that workers get tons of vaccines.
The issue is that we already let government functionally own healthcare and the court may be right in that we cannot complain about it now. We'd have to get Congress to deregulate the industry.
What is insane though is that it is an investigative drug currently in trials that has no FDA approval, and therefore is covered under Nuremberg- no coercion. So even if you want to âprotectâ health care workers- would you protect health care workers with an unapproved injection thatâs arguably not even a vaccine? They need to fight this in court again over the status and name of this therapy. (For healthcare workers covered under CMS.)
I'm not aware of the US ever having officially agreed to Nuremburg codes as a treaty or law that we will use. So, while they apply ethically, they don't apply legally (any legal Pedes can feel free to correct me here.)
This page says itâs part of federal rules. But those can be changed. Iâm not sure what the Helsinki agreement means relative to US lawâŠ. Will keep digging.
That one has some (very limited) logic behind it because it's based on federal government spending. I don't agree with the argument at all, but at least it is somewhat built around a logical framework.
The OSHA rule was just such a clear overstep of power that it was a joke. That's why the conservatives were all lining up to write the opinion. I've taken one business law class and I could have written that. The liberals in their dissent basically said "covid is dangerous so that's all that matters".
It's not, really, but there is a better argument there. It's a question of scope.
HHS has jurisdiction over a very specific industry and its employees under a clause that could reasonably be expected to construe that authority in terms of public health and welfare, so they could theoretically mandate employment requirements within that industry and solely that industry.
The OSHA rule applies to literally every citizen. No regulatory body has that sort of authority and there isn't even a theoretical case to be made for it.
"When ruling on a preliminary stay / injunction, the court decides whether the moving party is likely to prevail on the merits. Here, SCOTUS said those who oppose the vax mandate would prevail, so there's no reason to proceed any further with the cases at the lower court level. Justices essentially signaled, "If you rule against these folks, we're going to slap you down with a reversal."
I'm also irritated about how this was only about how OSHA doesn't have the authority. Nothing about how this is a gross human rights abuse in general as a policy.
Thatâs the legal aspect vs political aspect. Legally osha doesnât have the authority. Politically it is a human rights abuse. The Supreme Court is a legal body and not a political body (as the saying goes).
In case you didn't see my post above, this is how it was explained to me
"When ruling on a preliminary stay / injunction, the court decides whether the moving party is likely to prevail on the merits. Here, SCOTUS said those who oppose the vax mandate would prevail, so there's no reason to proceed any further with the cases at the lower court level. Justices essentially signaled, "If you rule against these folks, we're going to slap you down with a reversal."
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
They're still absolute trash. If I shot you in the chest 7 times, then gave you a cookie, you still gonna like me? Gtfo of here with those shit judges.
Nature's inoculation. Glad it happened instead of what could have happened. Glad I held out getting jabbed. And tbh glad covid made me rethink some of my health choices. Stopped smoking recently and other changes coming.
86 Billion over what the airline industry asked for in PPP loans will get a lot of illegals into this country via the airlines. They want to show their gratitude to Biden and the Democrat Party.
What about federal workers? These stupid fucks. Federal workers include the fucking cashiers at a cvs because they have a pharmacy and accept Medicaid/medicare. Also includes me, who works at home on a computer reviewing insurance claims paid correctly.
I guess it's time to move to a different industry. I for one am glad to let our current healthcare industry die. They don't care about your health, they only care about what makes them more profits. A patient cured is a customer lost.
It's also time to get your healthcare from a different industry. The Medical Profession has been purged of critical thinkers that saw an experimental, poorly tested procedure for what it is.
The ones left either will bow to any pressure or are too dumb to know better. Either way you're going to get prescribed Pfizermax Energy Drink instead of water.
Get your healthcare from the gym, from the fruit and vegetables section of the grocery store, from hygiene products -- not from these doctors unless you get cancer or some disease where you have no choice.
If they require it mandate regardless of the government I'd get the hell out.
I work for a cell phone carrier, and they were seemingly preparing for this mess years in advance. If you were work-from-home, they didn't even ask your status. You were off Scott free.
This whole mess is still scary as hell mind you, but there are some fighting on the backend.
I think itâs for workers at facilities that are funded by Medicare, medicaide? So I donât think private health care dmfacikities are included? Please, someone who knows what theyâre talking about correct me
The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
Yes, the CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
I'm a fed contractor that does IT work from home. I dont even go on base, nor do I step foot in any medical facility, yet me and my whole team were required to get vaxxed by Dec 6th of last year.
Let's not cannibalize each other. There were many who got the shots early on in a genuinely naive belief that they would help end the stupidity for good. And many have been converted because they thought they'd done their part and were betrayed by their government.
The Fed contractor mandate is still stayed. These decisions don't affect that.
Also: You should have put in an exemption request. Worst case it kicks the can down the road a bit while they evaluate it, and you could have held out for the stay that eventually did come.
Same here, honestly scared about a world where all fed contractors are wildly liberal. Itâs already so slanted where I am and this is nothing but a purge of any of us who are left.
That applies to a lot of things, but not pharmacies. I know several people who work in pharmacies with zero vaccine requirements, some of which are in big chains.
Federal contractors are different than just pharmacies which fill scripts. There's an entirely separate set of requirements for federal contractors that simply do not apply whatsoever to pharmacies, and that's not remotely limited to just vaccine mandates.
Thereâs a lot of based healthcare workers. Believe me, based Allied Health Professionals outnumber the cucks. Especially at the smaller private hospitals and clinics.
Those were (and still are) my exact thoughts. I was certain the highest shitheads in the land would rule on the side of stupidity. I guess a broken clock is right twice a dayâŠ
Unfortunately the ruling today has no bearing on the will of private companies -- they appear to be free to "do what they want" independent of this decision
Well I guess I'm about to get fired, cuz I'm not getting this shit. I work for a global company...and remotely...and they are still mandating it. What a joke.
One of the dissent's arguments was that OSHA's estimates on employees quitting was lower than the threat because they (employees) don't end up following thru with the threat -- in other words they call chicken and expect you to not do shit.
The only way we get out of this is if enough of us don't comply. The Rubicon is here. If we don't pass thru it now, they will and are doing so -- and if they take it now, t'll just be a countdown to boxcars from there.
So I think this means they've upheld the stay of it going forward while it will still be fought in court. Also it sounds like if it makes it back to the SC there's a good chance they will rule against biden.
The applications for stays presented to JUSTICE
KAVANAUGH and by him referred to the Court are granted.
OSHAâs COVIDâ19 Vaccination and Testing; Emergency
Temporary Standard, 86 Fed. Reg. 61402, is stayed pending
disposition of the applicantsâ petitions for review in the
United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit and
disposition of the applicantsâ petitions for writs of certiorari,
if such writs are timely sought. Should the petitions for
writs of certiorari be denied, this order shall terminate automatically. In the event the petitions for writs of certiorari
are granted, the order shall terminate upon the sending
down of the judgment of this Court.
It is so ordered.
Honestly surprised they made the correct ruling, it shouldn't have taken this long. It'll be interesting to see what potatus pivots to next in his war against Americans.
Just a heads up, this is not a ruling on the OSHA mandate. They only decided that the 6th circuit wasnât right to reinstate it. They could still rule in favor, but until the y make a ruling it cannot be enforced by OSHA.
I understand there is still a chance they could change their arguments if it went back to SCOTUS, but highly unlikely. They would have to be huge cucks
Yeah but fuck them! I can't tell you how many doctors/nurses from cardiologists to pediatricians have nagged and guilted me and my family about the damn shot. They apparently love it, so let them all have it. They can be the test subjects.
Yep. They want big daddy government telling the rest of us what to do, but now, in a MASSIVELY ironic twist, they have to either get vaxxed or learn to code!
They are still operating on the false premise of this vaccine actually preventing disease. It does not. Requiring healthcare workers to get it is not good enough.
They shouldn't be determining health efficacy. It's extremely dissapointing to see them allow mandatory health procedures regardless. Just glad they're not doing it for anyone not under the Federal governments thumb by choice already.
This is a half-just ruling, since our HCW frens are still fucked. I am still losing my job at a university on Tuesday because they want and are enforcing the mandate, but maybe other employers who were on the fence will do the right thing and not require it anymore. I really don't want to be unemployed for a long time, but will do what is necessary to stand for what is right. Thanks to the normally cucked Roberts for finally voting the right way for a change. I am putting this in the win column.
Healthcare worker here, TOTAL BS ruling
i don't even have patient interaction, looks like ill be looking for a job outside of healthcare. I've been in healthcare for the last 15 years, and its been great. However, healthcare is NOT what it used to be. I used to be proud of what i did to save lives on a daily basis, but not anymore. FUCK YOU JOE BIDEN!!!!!
Just make an appointment to get it and cover your shoulder with a prosthetic flesh pad. You can cover it at the top with your shirt and wear a cast to cover the bottom part. I genuinely considered this as a last resort if it got crazy.
Then I decided as a matter of principle I would vocally refuse and that this was my hill.
Yeah but fuck them! I can't tell you how many doctors/nurses from cardiologists to pediatricians have nagged and guilted me and my family about the damn shot. They apparently love it, so let them all have it. They can be the test subjects.
I don't know if you watch Razorfist, but you'd like him. His recent video on Fauci getting his ass caved in by Rand Paul ended with a great little message for the black-pillers, of which this site has many. (It's around the 6:40 mark.)
I've been eating downvotes for a week saying that doomers were being faggots over this, that the facts didn't favor them. They insisted they were "realists".
BREAKING: The Supreme Court BLOCKS the federal government's COVID-19 vaccine-or-test requirement for large workplaces. The court ALLOWS a vaccine mandate for workers at federally funded health care facilities to take effect nationwide.
And for pedes who like to actually stay informed, the opinions--
So I guess just fuck you, prole, if you're a medicaid-funded healthcare worker (that's like basically ANY hospital at this point, isn't it?) or a federal employee.
I donât work for the government, but my work has a few government contracts (NOT the majority of our business), so it looks like Iâm still covered.
The opinion does recognize that this is only an interim final rule, and that for such a rule, they did not need to consider the impact to rural hospitals. However, the final rule must.
So that is the new avenue of attack. Do not give up if you work in health care! Resist to the last moment
that's like basically ANY hospital at this point, isn't it?
It's basically everyone that works in healthcare. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
I worked as a therapist in a nursing home in NY. I refused to quit my job, so they suspended me without pay and filled my position the same week. I asked what my official status was, considering they've already filled my position. THEY WON'T FIRE ME! "Just get vaccinated", they said, "Provide us with proof and you can come back to work." I didn't go through all this just to give up and take the fucking shot. Get wrecked.
This is a fucking disaster. I wouldnât have gone into nursing if I knew the government could force me to be injected with experimental drugs every time something remotely dangerous happened.
Millions of people being forced to take this Big Pharma poison is outrageous.
âCongress has authorized the Secretary to impose condi- tions on the receipt of Medicaid and Medicare funds that âthe Secretary finds necessary in the interest of the health and safety of individuals who are furnished services.â 42 U. S. C. §1395x(e)(9).* COVIDâ19 is a highly contagious, dangerous, andâespecially for Medicare and Medicaid patientsâdeadly disease. The Secretary of Health and Hu- man Services determined that a COVIDâ19 vaccine man- date will substantially reduce the likelihood that healthcare workers will contract the virus and transmit it to their patients. 86 Fed. Reg. 61557â61558. He accord- ingly concluded that a vaccine mandate is ânecessary to pro- mote and protect patient health and safetyâ in the face of the ongoing pandemic. Id., at 61613.â
âThe rule thus fits neatly within the language of the statute. After all, ensuring that providers take steps to avoid transmitting a dangerous virus to their patients is con- sistent with the fundamental principle of the medical pro- fession: first, do no harm. It would be the âvery opposite of efficient and effective administration for a facility that is supposed to make people well to make them sick with COVIDâ19.â Florida v. Department of Health and Human Servs., 19 F. 4th 1271, 1288 (CA11 2021).â
No idiots forcing millions of health care workers, but criminal murderers who intentionally want to harm We The People, Liberty, Freedom and Pursue of Happiness.
Just found this German video (activate the English captions) which proves how it is done via the tests and change (increase) of tests always directly before a new wave of corona cases. !!!! The video explains also how via the tests they could fabricate the illusion that the vaccinations worked in 2021.
This is not a win. Its a loss. Classic lose lose scenario. 2 mandates. Almost exactly the same things. One for healthcare workers, one for other businesses. You allow one to stand but block the other? Makes no sense. They both massively violate the constitution. To allow either to stand is a big blow.
The ides for the Healthcare one from what im gathering. Only applies to Hospitals that take federal money, like grants and such. AKA if you made a deal with the devil, the devil sets the rules.
No, it's basically everyone that works in healthcare. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
If Iâm reading this stuff right, the CMS mandate might still be struck down on the merits later. Granted, that doesnât help health care workers right now, but might eventually help set precedent
These morons are equating the clotshot to wearing gloves. That is how ignorant they are of the science behind these vaxes. They act like they're a polio vaccine and end transmission. Don't these fools ever look at anything but a SCOTUS brief?
Will you feel comfortable getting medical care in the USA knowing the only medical staff left submitted to this and will still try to push it onto you?
OSHA Rule:
6-3 to halt it while the case works its way through the system.
CMS Rule:
5-4 to allow it to be enforced while the case works its way through the system. (Roberts and Kavanaugh again show themselves to be less "right wing" than advertised).
Some more info from the AP
Full opinion here
HURRAY!
Except for the Healthcare workers, I'm so sorry. This is still unconstitutional.
I'm not worried about the retards on tiktok, I'm concerned that any based nurses and doctors will be quickly forced out of healthcare.
They need to fightback, and make the government back down. I was ready to step down as a trucker and watch the world crumble.
Or start their own private hospitals/clinics and not accept medicare & medicaid patients.
They very well could be on their way to this. Who knows, the healthcare they offer may even be way cheaper
Which is why I donât believe healthcare should be free and provided by the government.
Should there be some sort of reform in how expensive healthcare is? Yes. Should it be free? No. Any time something is free, itâs usually dogshit, which is why itâs free
This is how it used to be. The town doctor would come treat you and you pay a reasonable amount of cash.
Keep in mind the town doctor usually didnât spend 8 years at school just to be a doctor. Even as early as the 1900âs most doctors were apprentices that took up the trade. Would be nice to find a based Doctor not indebted to a university.
Or a bushell of apples and homemade bread.
Hope more do this, the patriot online docs are gouging me for ivermectin.
Yep. The bright side is that even w/ the gouge, it's less expensive, safer, and more effective than the stuff the hospitals would try to sell you.
Whatâs the link? Just to have on hand. Thanks.
Tractor supply, get the horse paste that ONLY contains ivermectin. 200 pound person takes a 250lb equivalent dose for light dosing. 0.2-0.6mg/kg per iMASK routine by FLCCC.
Link?
Doctors love cash
Totally this, two highest paid professions are lawyers and doctors but somehow people think lawyers are assholes but doctors are saints
I have lost all respect for doctors and they showed what they are really about in this scamdemic. I hope I never need the services of my local doctors and hopefully there will be time to seek out honest doctors instead of the corrupt, vaccine pimps we have now.
What lmao. Insurance companies donât dictate the prices towards Medicare/Medicaid. The government setâs max payouts for those and the hospitals have to abide by those prices or refuse to cover those governmental insurances.
Medical insurance is a scam to keep medicine overpriced.
Indeed it is, because it puts a deliberately obfuscating layer between the consumer (the patient) and the price.
Yup. I was a medical worker for a decade and used to laugh at those $8 Band-Aids the hospital would charge the insurance companies. It's so out of control that I don't think anyone can fix it now.
Ran my hand over a broken beer bottle that was in a 6 pack on a shelf. Opened my finger up nice and clean. Drove to a hospital 5 min from the store. Sat in the ER for 3 hours waiting my turn because I said my pain was only âa 2â
Got seen by a doc. 15 min. Iodine wipe. Local anesthetic. 3 quick sutures.
Bill came for $3000
Do you think doctors or nurses would intentionally harm us when they find out we are unvaccinated? Are they that crazy with the injections and if it comes to that we are in an unrecognizable world dealing with prison doctors than real doctors.
I'm not an expert on this by any means, but I did spend a year dealing with billing at a small clinic. I would say that, at the very least, our current system adds a large amount of administrative overhead.
Also, it seemed to me that the insurance companies would deny every single claim at least once, no matter what it was, just as a matter of policy.
Not really. Insurance is what saves you from paying a shit ton of money towards the hospital. The insurance and hospitals meet to settle on a certain maximum amount the hospitals can charge the insurance companies i.e you. Thatâs why thereâs out of network and in network hospitals/providers on your insurance. If hospitals drop their prices then both the consumer and insurance companies would be happy because it saves you both money.
If everyone walking into Walmart had a million dollars in his pocket, a pound of butter would cost $40,000. Everyone with "insurance" entering a hospital "appears" to have a million dollars in their pocket.
The big problem is in the fact that many people "share" that appearance which makes one million dollars act like 150 million dollars to the healthcare market. This drives prices through the roof.
A truly "affordable healthcare law" would simply outlaw health insurance completely.
Our leaders have become something other than human by allowing this genocide to take place under their watch. Big Pharma is bribing them with money and stocks to turn a blind eye.
Our leaders have become something other than human by allowing this genocide to take place under their watch. Big Pharma is bribing them with money and stocks to turn a blind eye.
I've used Frontline. Highly recommend.
Went to a place like that this morning. It was great and there was no bullshit.
this is the way.
The adminâs goal is to crash the system and take over anyway.
I was told by HR in an e-mail, that I needed to have my mask on while sitting at my desk by myself. This was right before the SCOTUS ruling. I was prepared to lose my job of 6 years.
The thing is the doctors and nurses hold all the power. What are the hospitals gonna do hire untrained people to do it? If they all quit the hospitals are powerless.
i'm sure a certain number of the illegals pouring over the border probably have 100% legit medical degrees issued by the University of Belize.
hell, the coyotes probably sell them as a premium package
Oh you know they will be bringing in the immigrants.
^THIS! <3 MAGA2022
The majority ruling explicitly states medical and religious exemptions must be followed. If you or anyone you know is in the medical community, FIND A LAWYER. You will win in most parts of the country.
Allowing the health case worker mandate to continue shows how much this ruling is hairsplitting over processes rather than really protecting individual rights, or cutting through the nonsense of corrupt politicized âguidelinesâ being used to subvert self-autonomy.
Heathcare work is one of he largest sectors of the economy â and thereâs no real reason the same disconnected justifications canât be extended to any other industry.
Yes this shows the decision was not based on the facts as it pertains to the law of the land and on politics.
They knew the economy could not tolerate a full on mandate but they can get away with the health care mandate.
At some point in the future they may use the health care mandate as precedent for a full scale one.
They are chipping away a piece at a time.
Thanks kavanaugh, I sure am glad Trump picked you. Not
It also sends the message to companies that are tied to government contracts like the Healthcare worker industry. If you want those contracts in the future you might want to please the boss. Would hate for those contracts to get lost in the mail? Biden is a bitter, mean POS and he will break any law, norm, or contract just to send a message to the public. There are consequences when you don't obey the Party and no one individual or business stands above the Party.
This splitting of hairs sends that message and it leaves it open to interpretation so businesses can use this decision as an excuse to fire people so they can appease Biden and keep federal contracts. The SC gave them a loophole that weak minded, and Democrat leaning CEO's will use.
Should of been a slam dunk decision but the Deep State only gave them a Buy one Get one free deal. Glad Roberts went with this one but I feel bad for the nurses and health care workers that will be fired.
Sounds easy, but it is not. Most lawyers won't take the case without the EEOC giving you a "right to sue" letter. My daughter filed a complaint in November for her exception being denied at the hospital she worked at. The hospital also let her go in November and we have heard nothing but "pending" from the EEOC for two months.
How do you "prove" a religious exemption?
Religious exemption does not require religion btw. Just a strongly held belief.
How do you disprove it?
That's the beautiful part, you can't!
How do libtards prove Brandon got 80 million votes?
You don't have to. You declare it in a comprehensible way.
Yeah but itâs too late. The mandated time in the medical industry was Jan 4.
People are done with the Democrats and are jumping ship to our side. The scamdemic is over and now it is time to make the Democrats pay. The whole shit show is about to explode. The world knows the November 3rd election was stolen and the January 6th rally was an FBI coup.
many of them are just quitting
it's so bad they are sending the military to some states to shore up healthcare
All part of the planned takeover.
That is to condition the Plebs that it is normal to see uniformed military in everyday life/locations.
I traveled in the Soviet Bloc during the Cold War - seeing AK toting soldiers everywhere was the norm. Of course, those were ethnically homogeneous communities. In the USA, our commie soldiers will keep to the White suburbs and safe spots where they won't encounter the "joys of diversity"
Yes, I travelled Russia and Ukraine in the 90's. AK toting soldiers were the norm in the cities.
Only interaction I had with them was when I wanted to take some pictures of the architecture at the Moscow train station. After they figured out I was an American and not a likely terrorist everything was cool.
That was normal to see during WWII though
And the military just announced a $50k signing bonus if you'll enlist for 6 years active duty
People are done with the Democrats and are jumping ship to our side. The scamdemic is over and now it is time to make the Democrats pay. The whole shit show is about to explode. The world knows the November 3rd election was stolen and the January 6th rally was an FBI coup.
People are done with the Democrats and are jumping ship to our side. The scamdemic is over and now it is time to make the Democrats pay. The whole shit show is about to explode. The world knows the November 3rd election was stolen and the January 6th rally was an FBI coup.
They will make their own healthcare providing systems
Going back in the fall for my associates in nursing, hopefully by the time I'm done it won't be an issue for one reason or another
Don't count on it, this covid crap is here to stay. Even if the coast is clear, you still have tons of bullshit to deal with like admin threatening your hours and position every week through budget cuts and whatever the libtard board members have up their asses that week.
I got so tired of this shit after a decade that I left and never went back to "saving lives", because the one life that is most important to me is mine.
I've heard stories, will look into places before I apply to them and take a job, if issues arise I've never been afraid to make a change of direction or location
Big Pharma and the Democrat Party always planned that this would take 5 years with or without a vaccine. They planned to take their time rolling out a vaccine and since Trump forced the issue they produced something that really didn't work.
Pretty much this. Then the commies run with it and their own party flocks to get infected with rainbow gene juice? Remember the illegals leaping over the fence aren't required or mandated, yet we are? Hrmm. Are the Krats willing to sacrifice nearly their entire base within 5 years and replace them with the illegals? Are the illegals supposed to kill off the rest of us?
These people stay up all night scheming this shit in between sacrifices, rituals and deeply troubling magical workings that would make Crowley blush.
never thought about are the illegals here to kill off the rest of us. They might be releasing real criminals that might be rewarded for scalps of conservatives and paid by a quota system. the more crimes and murders you can commit is how much your Christmas bonus is.
I wonder if those third world countries prisons are empty like Castro did in the late 70s. Democrats and biden don't care and they will probably kill more Democrats than conservatives unless biden flies them directly into red states and provides them with homes.
Dangerous times my fren.
Covidian doctors and nurses scare the shit out of me and if I see one of those "Get the Jab" buttons on them I am going to just leave because once they find out I am unvaccinated they are going to slip something in my IV.
Legally they can't, but probably will. These people are insane cultists. Now we know how these people think and operate out of their inner circles. I thought Heaven's Gate was kind of funny in a dark humor vein, but these Covidian Clowns are dangerous to even be around, let alone admit myself into their chamber of doom.
It sounds just like Nazi Germany. Get the sheep to embrace the insanity, have the academics and the medical community to believe in the plan (Eugenics) and then start eliminating the non-believers or like Hillary likes to say the "deplorables." It really now is a cult. Stay away from Hitler doctors and nurses.
Most colleges are requiring the vax too
Seen that, one I'm heading into hasn't or at least yet. Seen some students and staff without masks on when I went by to meet with an advisor so hopefully a sign this one isn't looking to require it, moving forward now if it becomes an issue I'll look for a way to deal with it
I think the clinical sites you'll have to train at will require it. Sorry to burst your bubble. As far as I know in Massachusetts most of the clinical sites aren't allowing any religious exemptions for students.
There are a lot of based health-care workers I am sorry for who shouldn't be forced to get the clot shot. Do you want to be treated ONLY by brainwashed, vaxed doctors, surgeons and nurses? I don't. We need good people in the system and this is going to chase them out.
This is either going to lead to more private healthcare by healthcare pros, or single-payer/government healthcare for all. I hope that capitalism wins over communism on this front.
I wish that were the case, but almost all of the state medical boards are left wing/corrupt and will suspend or terminate the licenses of conservatives who get out of line. It's a real problem. Physician here by the way.
Respiratory Therapist here. Glad some MDs such as yourself are on our side. I feel many more are than we realize.
It is but people are scared to talk about it. Just like they don't discuss their vax side fx.
How do we fight this? I've heard the same from my doctor, who is quietly based as hell.
Long term, we need to do like they do, and silently infiltrate. Same with school boards. Take them back as well, though those be easier based on we just need to show up and vote for the board members instead of being lazy.
But what do we do in the short term?
Doctors have a lot to lose from having their medical license revoked. That makes it almost impossible to take a stand.
I read that doctors are afraid to write medical vaccine exemptions. The patient shows the medical exemption to the employer, then the employer complains to the medical licensing board, and then they threaten to revoke the doctor's license if he keeps writing exemptions.
It's also the threat of losing privilege of Medicare/medicade payments which is what the medical mandate does.
If a doctor steps out line they can lose this and it's a HUGE portion of the customer base.
I would hate to be a doctor and know that I have caused injury or death to a person in the community. You will always feel guilty by ruining their lives because they were afraid to speak out because they were fearful to what the Democrat Party would do to them or the pushback from Big Pharma. Maybe they don't care at all which would be terrible to think but they are approaching Nazi like in promoting injections.
Yup many doctors tried to do the right thing through all this and lost their licenses or got shit at work for it.
As a young physician, I'm close to half a million dollars in debt from school (between me and my husband). I can't exactly "take a stand" and will probably just have to find a new career.
I'm sure this is a good day for most of you, but it's horrific for me.
So much respect to you. I am not sure I would take a stand. Actually I know I wouldn't. But then again I have kids already. That debt will be a joke to you someday hopefully. The mandate is only for certain medical establishments I read. Can you go to another state? Or some hospital that doesn't require it? Would your medical degree be recognized in Sweden or Japan? Treat western patients in Japan. Investment banking would take a Doctor? I just pray all this pain brings out something better in the future for our society.
Maybe I'm obtuse but could you hypothetically "vax" yourself and provide a vax card? Or have a based dr friend do it for you?
Yea this fn blows. Been working in healthcare for years. Im not even worried about the current set of jabs as much as I am jab 20. They already ram the influenza shit down your throat every year. Make no mistake this will be annual as well. The heart can only take so many poundings.
McDonalds hiring though eh?
I would hate to be a doctor and know that I have caused injury or death to a person in the community. You will always feel guilty by ruining their lives because they were afraid to speak out because they were fearful to what the Democrat Party would do to them or the pushback from Big Pharma. Maybe they don't care at all which would be terrible to think but they are approaching Nazi like in promoting injections.
If every physician did, you could.
Sorry, but that's sheep thinking and you all will get what you deserve.
Seriously , like getting their license suspended for giving out an exemption. It's scary how zealous the covid cult is.
I hope so too, Patriot. Those look like the options we will be faced with now.
me too. Currently in medical model care.... will be searching for jobs soon, i imagine.
We're going to fight for you guys, and all Americans who should have BODY AUTONOMY. Nobody in any job or position should be forced to put something they don't want in their body.
Huh? I thought women enjoyed creepy old guys who cover their faces penetrating them with a squirting shaft against their will to maintain employment. Wasnât that the whole point of #MeToo?
There's apparently a shortage of covid test kits.
The gov mandates testing yet can't supply the tests.
I'm pushing for everyone to get tested daily. What's the point getting tested after you're symptomatic, after you've exposed everyone? Get tested daily, twice a day if you're smart.
So hopefully, normies realize that government can't manage a simple operation like testing, no fucking way you should let them manage your diabetes, cancer, fatass, depression, brain damage/transsexualism, etc.
How can you be sure unless you test yourself 10 times a day?
Genius! COVID testing in breathalyzer form... Car won't start unless you're negative... Man, this totalitarian dictator thing is easy...
No it won't, Big Pharma has the government as it's bitch. All the red tap bureaucracy is why the fucking health care industry is in the shit hole it is in. For 100 years CRONY capitalism has been grooming and growing the medical field in the US. If you think that somehow 100 years worth of laws is just going to magically vanish and "capitalism" will fix itself, you have no clue how fucked up the industry is and just how much authority the government and bureaucrats have. Crony capitalism is NOT capitalism, it's basically the same shitty communism that the fucking Chinese have.
The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
Exactly. What this this vax mandate is being used for is a purge of those who won't blindly follow orders.
Yup same thing in Military.
I would hate to be a doctor and know that I have caused injury or death to a person in the community. You will always feel guilty by ruining their lives because they were afraid to speak out because they were fearful to what the Democrat Party would do to them or the pushback from Big Pharma. Maybe they don't care at all which would be terrible to think but they are approaching Nazi like in promoting injections.
This will lead to private cash only practices being set up. Which is what should be happening anyway.
Agreed. I wonder how health insurance companies will handle all this...that's a concern.
I agree three. Take it back to where cash rules.
Demand they be shut down.
The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
Maybe cash-only would work for payment, but no physician or other provider is going to practice without liability insurance.
What do you think doctors and nurses will do to the unvaccinated when we go in for an elective surgery? Would they do us harm because we disagreed with their advice on injections and boosters? The medical establishment scares me now and I am taking care of my health to avoid going there at all costs.
Hey, great question. I summarized my thoughts in a longer post here already, have a look and let me know. In short, I think they would just deny care, rather than accept you as a patient then harm you.
The SCOTUS ruling on Thursday was devastating, due to allowing the CMS jab mandate to go into effect. It is a loss for liberty. Here's why, and what Trump had to say about it at his Arizona rally last. - https://patriots.win/p/141EwWzUen/ Trump completely glossed over this very important point. But it was a good start that he spoke against mandates in general.
Thanks fren, I will read up on it. Keep fighting
Sucks for them. Oh well. Itâs not like they lifted a finger in 2020 when the the narrative was being established.
Wrong. There are based healthcare workers that specifically sought out work in a state without any jab mandates, at employers with no jab mandates, have never pushed a jab, and have treated patients for their jab side effects.
But thanks for your empathy!
Imagine being denied life-saving care by those npc fuckbrains because you're White, male, Christian, intelligent, grounded in reality, etc. We've already seen that behavior going on from the start of this plamdemic hoax but imagine it becoming official policy
I basically just avoid doctors. I may have broken my toe recently, but I'm fine. I will be walking in the side of my foot for a month or two, but nature nows how to fix itself.
Same. But I have family members who have severe issues who need good medical care. All of this bullsh%t still touches us all in some way. That's why we fight for each other, because we are also fighting for ourself. Everyone is connected.
Paige, what do you say to woman who are all for abortions but when it comes to vaccinations they are pro-vaccines and the "my body, my choice" goes out the window.
I'll gladly watch them twerk for the Myocarditis Mixtape. Blow the whistle on the hospital killings or get all the doses that are coming to you.
a pandemic so severe nurses have time to choreograph twerks
a pandemic so deadly we can fire unvaxed nurses and then make covid-positive ones work OT
Once they got that "essential worker hero label there was no coming back. I find nurses to be much more covidian when pushing the injections. I really am afraid if I ever land in a hospital and they find out I am unvaccinated what they will do to me to punish me for having a thinking brain.
you expect them to work 24X7 without taking a break or blowing off a little steam?
Good point. I recall during the Spanish Flu, the nurses did choreographed musical numbers too.
yes, they used castanets and maracas
Heart attacks halfway through twerking. You hate to see it folks.
I dont think this response is correct given the nature of the healthcare ruling.
I'm sure the tiktok nurses have already happily taken the jab multiple times.
Hey ohhhh
Full opinion here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
You need more credit for giving a source. Thank you.
Here is the full opinion for the healthcare workers case: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a240_d18e.pdf
This one was decided 5-4, with Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, and Barrett dissenting. The last one is a bit of a surprise.
So rapist Kavanaugh is going to allow hospitals to rape people with needles
It's 30 pages
It's around 60 thousand characters. A little heavy for a message board
Aside from that, do you actually think SCOTUS will stealth edit or take down an opinion?
The bad news is they obviously recognize Congress's authority to impose a jab mandate, seemingly regardless of how effective or safe that jab may be. But that's a problem for another day.
That helps us.
You think abortion got people to the polls? Wait until the next election ad says VOTE for XXXXX for MEDICAL FREEDOM
Great point, however if the voting is corrupt and manipulated like the 2020 election was, none of that will matter anyway
They can only cheat so much, get themselves a few extra % here and there. They can't turn 60% against to a win, I mean, perhaps they can, but not often.
This ruling allows for forced 120th trimester abortions
Saw that as well. It's only a matter of time until a national vaccine law is passed
It wouldn't surprise me if the House teed one up immediately
Lol only 26 Demonrats bowing out so far
Gotta pump up those numbers!
People are done with the Democrats and are jumping ship to our side. The scamdemic is over and now it is time to make the Democrats pay. The whole shit show is about to explode. The world knows the November 3rd election was stolen and the January 6th rally was an FBI coup.
I love reading scotus opinions thank you
Unfortunately it looks like this isn't a decisive opinion, it's only granting the temporary stay and allowing the litigation to continue in lower federal courts.
Yeah, but they did say the applicants were likely to prevail. A 6-3 decision
And in granting the stay, SCOTUS explains why the applicants are likely to prevail on the merits. This signals the Supreme Court's legal reasoning on the merits.
So even though SCOTUS didn't actually rule on the merits, if the 6th Circuit were to rule differently and allow OSHA to impose the mandate, the door would be open for the plaintiffs to appeal to SCOTUS again.
TLDR: It's really unlikely that the 6th Circuit will use different legal reasoning than than the Supreme Court when they eventually hear the full case.
Well said
How does that work? So the 9th Circuit decides "fuck you and your freedom" and reinstates the mandates. Now it comes back to SCOTUS where they do exactly what?
It means it's over. It basically says "dont send this shit back up to us".
No one continues litigation after a decision like this.
Biden is (D)ifferent...
I would hate to be a doctor and know that I have caused injury or death to a person in the community. You will always feel guilty by ruining their lives because they were afraid to speak out because they were fearful to what the Democrat Party would do to them or the pushback from Big Pharma. Maybe they don't care at all which would be terrible to think but they are approaching Nazi like in promoting injections.
Biden reinstated the eviction moratorium after SCOTUS shot it down so nothing is over
So.. what about the mandate for federal contractors? Thatâs the one Iâm being hit by.. do you know if this included striking that down?
granted stay blocks OSHA
Hawaiian Judge DGAF
I agree
The 6th circuit decides whether or not OSHA is following the Constitution which supposedly takes more time. In the meantime, the Supreme Court issued this stay which blocks OSHA.
After 6th circuit decides that OSHA is following the Constitution and allows it to continue (let's be honest, that will happen), plaintiffs appeal to the Supreme Court. SCOTUS grants/denies appeal and decides on the constitutionality then.
That's likely not to happen actually. The opinion is clear for the 6th, and even if they tried it, SCOTUS would quickly overturn again. So they know it's moot
no, this is a fucking spear
a fucking judicial spear to the 6th going fuck you this is dead
end it
But how does that work? It sounds like you are describing the process that led us to today.
This is the process, AFAIK. I am not a lawyer
-- today we are here
Wtf.
that was the point all along, to put it back to the state level.
No, the case being punted back to the federal courts is still about the federal mandate, it's just that the emergency stay is active again pending the results of that litigation.
Fuck Scotus cuckfags and commies. Partial victory in one case, vs total loss in many others. They haven't stopped the steady march toward tyranny America has been on for the last 200 odd years. Barely slowed it down at all. In fact, they've made things a lot worse more often than not.
Thanks for that!
The real MVP. Thanks!
And federal employees. Military, border patrol, ice get fucked too. Roberts and kavanaugh fucked them.
Federal employees haven't been ruled on yet.
..which means they're still fucked? What are you going for here. There isn't big litigation going on about the feds regardless. It's going to stand.
I'd like to know where I stand with that. Of course AFGE, hasn't done shit to fight against this.
Good, these tax leeches should get fucked.
Dumb take, who will implement anything if you get a good candidate in the White House? This is why trumps agenda got stalled at every point, because of liberal feds, liberal contractors, liberal generals, and liberal intelligence agencies. These people are unelected and impossible to fire. Youâre shooting yourself in the face on this take
I don't anything implemented at the federal level, I want it all repealed, disbanded or otherwise eliminated.
Well itâs going to exist whether you like it or not and allowing it to be 100% weaponized against you is so stupid. Good luck repealing anything when every federal department slow walks any rulings or when the DOJ writes executive orders in a way that will be struck down in court because the people writing it want it to be (which is what happened to every trump EO)
Did you comment on a wrong post? Or are you confused
Federal employees are tax leeches. I am not confused.
Would you be able to explain why an E5 is a tax leech?
The postal service doesn't need to get tested or injected.
Not just federal employees. Anyone who works for a company - public or private - that has federal contracts is still on the hook apparently. Thatâs fucked.
I believe that was a separate case to the OSHA and HHS mandate. If memory serves me correct, that case didnât make it to Scotus yet.
Correct. The HHS ruling does not bode well for federal employees and contractors, however.
Of course Kavanaugh and roberts fucked us there.
Raped. Forcing me to accept anything inserted into my body is the defintion of rape.
They meaning the deep state must have dirt on Kavanaugh. What a disappointment he turned out to be.
Roberts is a fucking cuck. Always has been. Kavanaugh is too, but it hurts more because people stuck up for him and Trump appointed him, so we expected more balls. Too much cucking shrank his balls to pea size.
Edit: as is he ever raped anyone, LOL, his flaccid extension couldn't rape anything.
That's what I was thinking, and since basically most large companies are considered federal contractors, that fucks a ton of people.
Thanks for the info.
Sauce?
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
I would hate to be a doctor and know that I have caused injury or death to a person in the community. You will always feel guilty by ruining their lives because they were afraid to speak out because they were fearful to what the Democrat Party would do to them or the pushback from Big Pharma. Maybe they don't care at all which would be terrible to think but they are approaching Nazi like in promoting injections.
I don't think a ruling has been made regarding that but this sets a strong precedent
Sets the precedent for extreme cucking IMO with the healthcare decision, because that basically says if you receive a single cent from the federal government you have to do and inject literally anything they say.
fair point
"become a tranny or be fired"
I donât think theyâve ruled on the federal contractor mandate yet. But that one is especially fucked because it attempts to regulate employees who share a workspace with people who work on federal contracts.
Letâs say your company has 5 floors in an office. The people who work on federal contracts are on the 2nd floor and you work on the 4th floor. You have no contact with the people working on federal contracts except maybe sharing an elevator or parking garage. Surprise! You fall under the mandate.
4D chess in that situation!
Same with pretty much all university faculty.
My co designated the entire workforce as contractors because the gov is a large customer....so they're still using the EO as their basis for requiring. Hope that gets taken care of soon.
On December 7, 2021, the US District Court for the Southern District of Georgia granted a preliminary injunction to temporarily halt the enforcement of the Biden administrationâs vaccine mandate for government contractors nationwide. The court held that President Bidenâs executive order likely exceeded his authority under the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act, 40 U.S.C. § 101 et seq.
In his decision, Judge Baker stated the âdirect impactâ of President Bidenâs executive order âgoes beyond the administration and management of procurement and contracting; in its practical application ⊠it operates as a regulation of public health.â[1] The injunction prevents enforcement of the vaccine mandate for prime contractors and subcontractors on all covered contracts âin any state or territory of the United States of America.â
Do you have the sauce on this?
do you think I made all that up?
https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/u-s-district-court-enjoins-federal-8882638/
Def not, need it for work! đ Thanks for sauce!
1+1=2
source??
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22Baker+stated+the+%22direct+impact%22+of+President+Biden%27s+executive+order+%22goes+beyond+the+administration+and+management+of%27&t=ffcm&ia=web
Stop working for the enemy.
Shut the fuck up, retard.
At least heâs not making shit up.
That contractor mandate is separate from both of these.
5 fucking seconds of research.
Well, good luck to the military trying to recruit.
Hence all the woke and tranny ads. They knew this was coming, and want to continue to siphon tax money for butts in the seat.
Uncle Samantha (formerly Sam) Wants You!
Maybe it's a secret plan to start a war and destroy all the woke people in battle
Go onâŠ
"Comrade Pooh, we have disturbing news from the USA! They are replacing all their soldiers with trannies! With their suicide rates, it will be impossible for our soldiers to kill any of them!"
People are done with the Democrats and are jumping ship to our side. The scamdemic is over and now it is time to make the Democrats pay. The whole shit show is about to explode. The world knows the November 3rd election was stolen and the January 6th rally was an FBI coup.
I can only imagine what kind of buttfuckery will happen in the foxholes.
"H-h-how do we kill that, which has already killed itself?!"
good
less poor men shoved into the meat grinder and less shit hole people blown up for no fucking reason
Shit, I just joined USPS
Lucky for you usps union somehow negotiated no Vax.
Probably for helping steal the election.
Basically usps is staffed largely by vets, vets are based, dems need usps to pull off mail in voting.
Yeah, my union told me it was impossible, but somehow usps managed it. I asked if I could switch to the usps union and the union rep did not find it funny.
Yea unions suck
Unions tend to have only one or two goals, while ignoring everything else about the job. UAW for instance is only there to make their guys money. 23 an hour for simple labor, 12 hours a day 6 days a week mandatory with ensured OT potential on top of that. And everything past 48 hours a week is double OT. So now 23 an hour is 6 figures minimum.
Tons of joggers too
I work for a federal agency. The majority of my office is based vets, including myself (and one contractor who is in the reserves). This also includes my direct leadership. I wonât disclose what I do, but I feel itâs for a better cause than most agencies. Many of us have submitted religious exemption requests (the forms word it as religious âexceptionâ), and so far no one has heard anything, but weâre supposed to have interviews about it. According to my supervisor, something like 35% or more of our department has filed for religious exemptions, and theyâre probably backed up with paperwork.
IT?
Has anyone actually asked any of the hacks in the Brandon Admin why the fuck USPS gets a pass??
Yeah ironically it was my fallback job if UPS forced me out, lol
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
Yep.
actually they stopped a steal attempt in VA
Pretty sure USPS was exempt. đ
You should be good at usps, right? They were under the osha mandate. Although they're federal workers, they did not fall under the federal mandate.
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
I thought they carved out an exception for the postal service.
Oh no. :(
I wonder where this put me as a healthcare worker with a religious exemption.
I'm praying they do something better than this for you, Patriot and all of our great people in health/medical jobs. This is still unconstitutional.
so ANYONE in medicine or just federal medical workers have to get it?
Anyone employed by a facility that takes medicare / medicaid money...
thanks fam
The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
We don't even get federal funding. It's anyone that accepts medicare/medicaid as insurance. Which pays WORSE than regular insurance. It's not a fucking favor or a grant.
anyone or institution getting medicare/medicaid money
The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
as much as we don't like it, it is not unconstitutional
the mandate applies to doctors and facilities who take medicaid/care payments
as the "insurance company," HHS can set policies for pay outs
what I see is a lot doctors saying "screw medicaid"
and that is going to hurt a lot of old/sick people
this mandate is still being fought in the lower courts
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
they are not going to steal 2022
the PO has already proven it has safeguards
Once you start to see them not talking about the election you know it is a done deal, just like Biden going into the basement for the last 2 months of the campaign, the UniParty just signs off on it just like the steal on November 3rd.
i see as the same way it was during the campaign
hide him in the basement so people won't know what a screw up he is
then the media will have an easier time lying about him
dems don't have this magic power to steal elections
we know their tricks, how they operate and how to stop them like we did on 11/2
we're ready now
Me too. Many double and triple jabbed coworkers catching Covid right now. Openly saying they won't take another jab. We'll see where this goes, and if there will be another round of firings. Some curious if a religious exemption will be accepted if they have already taken 2 shots. My state is mandating the booster or unpaid administrative leave.
If they took the first one, they probably will. If they took the second one, they definitely will.
If you find a way around it, I'd love to know. My wife is a nurse.
Sign up for a travel company. They care more about money than mandates. They let me sign a religious exemption no problem. Plus sheâll get paid about 3-5x more. And half of her paycheck will be untaxed so she wonât be funding the govt as much
Im having trouble finding contracts accepting exemptions idc if this wipl change that but it may. Are you having luck finding contracts accepting exemptions?
I signed up last June back when the mandates were âconspiracy theoryâ. Every hospital is understaffed, especially in my profession. They were already desperate before Covid and now tons of people left cause of the mandates or to travel so Iâve been at the same hospital this entire time. Fortunately Iâm nights and none of the management gives a shit about any of it and the day shift ones just pretend too. I remember the director came in and gave the bullshit mandate speech and at the end I was like âwhen did Biden get his medical degree to practice medicine on the entire country?â And the director was like âexactly!â And then told me to see her later so we could discuss politics more lol. Anyways my company just let me fill out âreligious/personal exemptionâ and I checked a box and signed and dated it and they havenât bothered me since. They just renenewed my contract for another 13 weeks. They pay a ton and I have a girlfriend here and they donât bother me about masks or vax so Iâll just keep renewing. They are already short staffed by about 60% and honestly itâs tough as fuck work, but as long as they donât bother me, Iâm not taking chances elsewhere. But I do know this, ever since the mandate, weâve had a grand total of 0 applications (management is very vocal about this) and several people quit over it. Nursing is terribly short too, I canât even get them to answer their phones for criticals cause theyâre all taking care of twice the normal load of patients. Eventually enough people will leave cause the workload is too hard and they canât take care of patients properly (I feel this way sometimes.) and eventually the hospitals are going to have to reverse these mandates. Too many people have come too far to get it now and the ones who did get it donât want more. More people are waking up and Joe rogan did a huge service to that. I know people at work who got it and regret it because they felt coerced into getting it. All the vaccinated are starting to get sick with Covid and Iâm just like âtold ya so. It doesnât work.â Things will change, it just depends how far Americans are willing to bend. Fortunately Biden is putting the country in a Vice grip and accelerating that (rising prices, nothing in the store, supplies for companies running dry, rising gas prices, vax mandates to eat/work etc) so now we as a country just need to ask ourselves, how far are we willing to bend? How uncomfortable are we willing to let it get? And I think most of us have subconsciously weighed that decision knowing that when we do fight back, there will be a time of food shortages and civil unrest and lots of violence. So Biden has to make america worse than that for us to finally say âenough is enough. If weâre going to live like this, we might as well do it on our terms and take back our countryâ and itâs coming quick. BLM riots, gas prices rise 100% in less than a fucking year. Food shortages that even Twitter is noticing. EVERYTHING cost more and your money is worth less. Biden is worse for this country than 9/11, heâs doing what the taliban never could and destroying the very core of America without firing a single shot and tripping up the stairs while doing it.
Im am basically in the same situation, my facility accepted excemption and keeps renewing been here since july and have been waiting it out. I was getting ancy and wanting a change but my recruiter says she is having trouble placing unvaxxed which makes me nervous. Ill keep renewing, hopefully the WHO statement and lack of effective variant vaccines kinda make this dissapear but are they going to contiue claming each lesser severity variant is an emergency requiring mandatory boosters? How far does this go?
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
No accommodations for my exemption. It was retire, or get fired.
On Bidens naughty..er..watch list
Can that be fought still?
Yeah I'm a PT fuck this. Still not getting one. Will find another career if necessary
yes
this case involved OSHA
the healthcare worker mandate is via HHS
and it is being fought in the courts
many hospitals are eliminating the mandates because it is causing a shortage of workers
Isn't a final decision. Is a stay/non-state while other courts work it out.
Basically court is saying this isn't relevant to most peoples jobs, so they are likely to succeed in stopping the rule for most jobs, so they will pause for now. But, healthcare rules are relevant to healthcare jobs, so there's a chance the rule will stand, so we will not stay it.
Although healthcare people were dealt a hit, isn't a knockout.
not good enough. Losers didn't protect the health care workers. Also, this is only for the stay. They didn't rule on the merits. Don't get too excited. They could (and probably will) backtrack and cuck like the 6th circuit. They are the bought and paid for supreme court CUCKstices.
They would only rule in favor of the stay if they thought the petitioners had a good chance of winning on the merits.
The OSHA rule is so egregious that it makes Obamacare look constitutional in comparison. There was no justification for it. Ever.
How is the CMS ruling any more constitutional?
Because Congress passed 100 billion laws controlling every aspect of healthcare already including that workers get tons of vaccines.
The issue is that we already let government functionally own healthcare and the court may be right in that we cannot complain about it now. We'd have to get Congress to deregulate the industry.
And Congress is exempt from absolutely every law they pass against the people.
Except the law they pass every year that gives them a raise
Donât worry, the tax payer is exempted from their raises.
What is insane though is that it is an investigative drug currently in trials that has no FDA approval, and therefore is covered under Nuremberg- no coercion. So even if you want to âprotectâ health care workers- would you protect health care workers with an unapproved injection thatâs arguably not even a vaccine? They need to fight this in court again over the status and name of this therapy. (For healthcare workers covered under CMS.)
I'm not aware of the US ever having officially agreed to Nuremburg codes as a treaty or law that we will use. So, while they apply ethically, they don't apply legally (any legal Pedes can feel free to correct me here.)
I believe it took a part in some international trade agreements. But some digging is definitely required.
https://anti-vaccines.com/history-of-vaccine/nuremberg-code-of-1947/
This page says itâs part of federal rules. But those can be changed. Iâm not sure what the Helsinki agreement means relative to US lawâŠ. Will keep digging.
That one has some (very limited) logic behind it because it's based on federal government spending. I don't agree with the argument at all, but at least it is somewhat built around a logical framework.
The OSHA rule was just such a clear overstep of power that it was a joke. That's why the conservatives were all lining up to write the opinion. I've taken one business law class and I could have written that. The liberals in their dissent basically said "covid is dangerous so that's all that matters".
Embarrassing, actually.
Nice comment. Well said.
It's not, really, but there is a better argument there. It's a question of scope.
HHS has jurisdiction over a very specific industry and its employees under a clause that could reasonably be expected to construe that authority in terms of public health and welfare, so they could theoretically mandate employment requirements within that industry and solely that industry.
The OSHA rule applies to literally every citizen. No regulatory body has that sort of authority and there isn't even a theoretical case to be made for it.
Not my explanation, but relevant
"When ruling on a preliminary stay / injunction, the court decides whether the moving party is likely to prevail on the merits. Here, SCOTUS said those who oppose the vax mandate would prevail, so there's no reason to proceed any further with the cases at the lower court level. Justices essentially signaled, "If you rule against these folks, we're going to slap you down with a reversal."
I'm also irritated about how this was only about how OSHA doesn't have the authority. Nothing about how this is a gross human rights abuse in general as a policy.
Thatâs the legal aspect vs political aspect. Legally osha doesnât have the authority. Politically it is a human rights abuse. The Supreme Court is a legal body and not a political body (as the saying goes).
In case you didn't see my post above, this is how it was explained to me
"When ruling on a preliminary stay / injunction, the court decides whether the moving party is likely to prevail on the merits. Here, SCOTUS said those who oppose the vax mandate would prevail, so there's no reason to proceed any further with the cases at the lower court level. Justices essentially signaled, "If you rule against these folks, we're going to slap you down with a reversal."
this
You mean the Supreme Court finally found a limit to Federal Government power?
Color me surprised.
Three did not. Guess the three
Roberts, Sotomayor, and Roberts?
Breyer, Kagan and the latino bitch.
Roberts didn't side with the commies? Now that's surprising. Makes me wonder if this ruling isn't part of a bigger plan.
The conservatives ruled "Osha can only exercise powers given to them by congress"
The liberals argued "Osha should be able to exercise any power not denied to them by congress"
For anyone who's not a leftist activist, this is an obvious and necessary ruling.
I guess. I'm so fucking jaded at this point I can't believe any win isn't part of some larger agenda.
He and Kavanaugh sided with the commies on Healthcare workers.
It always is. This feels like a fake win.
Roberts has the "freedom" to look conservative / wishy washy when he knows he won't be the "winning" vote.
Maybe it's just as simple as power swinging back to the R side of the uniparty
The "wise" Latina.
Latinx you damn drumphet MAGAt bigot
Nope
It was Sotomayor and the 2 Jews
I think you meant to say was 1 Latin bitch and the 2 jews
Surprise
Lol. Wrong, drumptard, it was Roberts Ă 3!!
Two Jews and the crypto Jew. Thank God rbg is dead. Hopefully she's spending eternity boiling in feces, as she believes Jesus should.
RGB dying was a yuuuuge win for patriots and the free world. đ
Breyer... Sotomayor...... And liberal queen Robert's?
I know it's Kagan, but Robert's wouldn't have surprised me.
Roberts and Kav switched and ruled to impose it on healthcare workers.
You forgot Elena!
You mean Epstein rewards member roberts
Kagan has more chins then a Chinese phone book. What the fuck is this bitch doing deciding my life's health outlook fate
Larry, Moe and Curly?
Just don't stand near the entrance to the Supreme Court, you may end up being stampeded.
Court packing imminent.
The Postal service does not need to vaccinate or inject themselves because they are essential assets into getting out mail in ballots so they can steal 2022. They won't push mandates on them.
Where are all the whiny shits trashing our Trump justices now?
Hello?
Not your thread, huh?
They're still absolute trash. If I shot you in the chest 7 times, then gave you a cookie, you still gonna like me? Gtfo of here with those shit judges.
Kavanaugh sided with the liberals and now its forced on healthcare workers.
COVID IS OVER
No longer best friends with Delta, friends with Omicron now.
Top Kek
Nature's inoculation. Glad it happened instead of what could have happened. Glad I held out getting jabbed. And tbh glad covid made me rethink some of my health choices. Stopped smoking recently and other changes coming.
It was either this or Marek's Disease.
Same! There is a silver lining here. The pandemic got people thinking about their health in a way that they may not have before.
Nothing about Omicron is natural.
FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH DELTA
But...but...but... how about Deltacron????
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Is that a new Decepticon?
86 Billion over what the airline industry asked for in PPP loans will get a lot of illegals into this country via the airlines. They want to show their gratitude to Biden and the Democrat Party.
Covid won't be over until the "aliens" appear.
That how you know they hav given up on covid
Fauci admitted that the COVID numbers are inflated
https://patriots.win/p/141ErkdiUz/cnn-thinks-it-may-be-out-of-touc/c/
Bill Gates said it can be treated like the seasonal flu
https://patriots.win/p/141ErjUV63/bill-gates-says-that-the-omicron/c/
they are in full retreat
I donât care what either of those nobodies say.
And neither should anyone else
EXACTLY THEY ARE ADMITTING 2 SHOTS DOES SHIT, WHY ARE THEY MANDATING IT
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
LOOKS LIKE SALTâS BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS
Salt miner stock is sky rocketing.
I'm eagerly awaiting the reddit salt screencap, those are my fav :)
Enough salt to make enough soup to end world hunger!
I feel the salt entering my veins, and it is DELICIOUSSSSSS!!!
the ocean is jealous
and lady frens
What about federal workers? These stupid fucks. Federal workers include the fucking cashiers at a cvs because they have a pharmacy and accept Medicaid/medicare. Also includes me, who works at home on a computer reviewing insurance claims paid correctly.
The exception is for healthcare workers, which I'm pretty sure doesn't include register jockeys.
I work for a hospital in their tech department and the mandate applied to me.
I guess it's time to move to a different industry. I for one am glad to let our current healthcare industry die. They don't care about your health, they only care about what makes them more profits. A patient cured is a customer lost.
It's also time to get your healthcare from a different industry. The Medical Profession has been purged of critical thinkers that saw an experimental, poorly tested procedure for what it is.
The ones left either will bow to any pressure or are too dumb to know better. Either way you're going to get prescribed Pfizermax Energy Drink instead of water.
Get your healthcare from the gym, from the fruit and vegetables section of the grocery store, from hygiene products -- not from these doctors unless you get cancer or some disease where you have no choice.
Amen brother đ
Nah, there's tons of tech jobs that can be done from home, and many more that are non-medical to boot.
I meant a tech job in a different industry. Not a different kind of job altogether.
I work from home and my company is requiring the vaccine...
If they require it mandate regardless of the government I'd get the hell out.
I work for a cell phone carrier, and they were seemingly preparing for this mess years in advance. If you were work-from-home, they didn't even ask your status. You were off Scott free.
This whole mess is still scary as hell mind you, but there are some fighting on the backend.
yep. ditto
incorrect. It applies to EVERYONE even remotely associated with healthcare. Too much room for discrimination lawsuits otherwise.
Med students are fucked. If I were still in med school, I'd quit. Healthcare is overrated anyway.
Time to become a black market mafia surgeon.
Imagine the business youâd get for being the only pure blood specialist in town who can save lives.
Get paid in 5.56 which is solid payment
You can make more money with less time invested and less debt in many other fields.
They should quit and demand a refund
nope
only entities that take medicare/medicaid
I think itâs for workers at facilities that are funded by Medicare, medicaide? So I donât think private health care dmfacikities are included? Please, someone who knows what theyâre talking about correct me
that mandate is tied to HHS, not OSHA
HHS will withhold medicare/aid money from anyone/place that does not have a mandate
many healthcare places don't take medicare/aid. it's optional
if they keep losing workers, I can see many more dropping medicare/aid
which is really going to suck for the people who depend on it
Most successful practices had dropped this already.
it was hard to find doctors they take medicaid before all the mandate bullshit
this will probably make it even harder, which sucks for the people who depend on it
which is... all of them.
no it most certainly isn't
medicare/aid is like insurance, doctors choose to take it or not
it is difficult to find doctors that do take them
mostly because the pay outs are low and there is a bunch of paperwork involved
most doctors are part of a hospital network, and ive never heard of a hospital that doesnt accept medicare
The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
Yes, the CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
Lol. Eventually they will just deputize us all as health workers... Yknow cuz we all are in this together.
Theyâre going to mandate the boosters just like the flu shot. Get your resume ready.
Pedophile Roberts and crybaby Kavanaugh are to thank. Fuck those asshole faggots
Traitors
I'm a fed contractor that does IT work from home. I dont even go on base, nor do I step foot in any medical facility, yet me and my whole team were required to get vaxxed by Dec 6th of last year.
They already fired a bunch of people as a result.
Why the fuck to you have upvotes?
Why the fuck weren't you fired, pussy?
Religious exemption was approved, waiting to hear if they will accommodate me
Let's not cannibalize each other. There were many who got the shots early on in a genuinely naive belief that they would help end the stupidity for good. And many have been converted because they thought they'd done their part and were betrayed by their government.
Some possibilities, of which I do not necessarily endorse:
Because putting food on the table for their family matters.
Hard to put food on the table when youâre bed ridden with myocarditis or dead from a stroke. Ask Bob Sagetâs family.
The Fed contractor mandate is still stayed. These decisions don't affect that.
Also: You should have put in an exemption request. Worst case it kicks the can down the road a bit while they evaluate it, and you could have held out for the stay that eventually did come.
Same here, honestly scared about a world where all fed contractors are wildly liberal. Itâs already so slanted where I am and this is nothing but a purge of any of us who are left.
Eventually the spike proteins will catch up with them. It was a short term solution that will cost them in the end.
there is nothing they do about federal workers
however, federal contractors are off the hook
That's blatantly false.
My friend works at cvs, a front store cashier. She has been mandated to get it because the pharmacy accepts cms
I have several friends who work at different pharmacies. None of them were mandated to take the clot shot.
CVS is a 100+ company, and they're liberal enough to follow through with it. They were mandated regardless of the federal worker/contractor mandates.
No, you are -- of company sells one rock to the government then everyone is s federal contractor outer the mandate and equality definition
That applies to a lot of things, but not pharmacies. I know several people who work in pharmacies with zero vaccine requirements, some of which are in big chains.
Federal contractors are different than just pharmacies which fill scripts. There's an entirely separate set of requirements for federal contractors that simply do not apply whatsoever to pharmacies, and that's not remotely limited to just vaccine mandates.
Seems like this is slow to hit news outlets as I've yet to see this come through that way.
Theyâre figuring out how to write the story,
âWhy the Supreme Court shooting down the mandate still means you need to get vaxxed to keep your job.â
And why that's a good thing
SUPREME COURT KNUCKLES UNDER TO DOMESTIC TERRORISTS
Supreme Court attempt armed Insurrection
""Trump's conservative Supreme Court wants everyone to get Covid"
Right. Makes me wonder...
Thank you. I spoke way too soon. It exploded right after I posted that.
You just exploded early. It happens to everyone once in a while, don't worry about it.
Do not come. Do not come.
Too late. Watching MTG campaign promos.
Lol
As usual we are the first to know things.
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Ya I just checked for it, and didn't find it.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
Just checked duckduckgo about 30 articles on it.
Don't use DDG. They changed dramatically like 6 months ago.
Duck.com was owned by - get this - Google. It was transferred to DDG at the end of 2018.
And now I'm hearing radio ads for DDG all the time.
A search engine that isn't monetizing you doesn't need to advertise, and probably doesn't even have the money to pay for that advertising.
My suspicion is that DDG sold out to Alphabet and is now under their umbrella.
Edit: Just saw who I replied to. Maybe DDG is under Israeli intelligence now instead.
BRAVEs search is pretty good, better than DDG ever was
Brave is okay. I often don't find what I'm looking for on there, but obviously the privacy is good.
True. I noticed that the other day. Brave is the way to go.
Iswear ive seen bilboards for ddg in the last 12 months to.
To be fair, I've seen billboards for DDG for a few years now.
So you think the infrastructure needed to run a search engine is free?
No, but look at how Brave, Qwant and even DDG (used) to do it:
Topic-based ads based on what you've searched. They can do that without building profiles on you, without tracking you, without monetizing your data.
Classic mossad
Iâm done working in healthcare.
Every time I go to the doctor/hospital I leave saying what a fucking waste of money.
Only thing that's any bit worthwhile is getting bloodwork done. The doctor's visit itself is rarely enlightening.
Thereâs a lot of based healthcare workers. Believe me, based Allied Health Professionals outnumber the cucks. Especially at the smaller private hospitals and clinics.
The last time I went was in 2017 when I got my arm gashed open by a flying piece of glass.
Other than life saving surgery, they are a waste of money
Me too. Losing my job Feb 1st.
What department do you work in? I work in radiology as a nuclear medicine technologist.
I work as a Psych RN/1st Responder with law enforcement. I do Psych evals in the field for suicidal and psychotic subjects.
I would be too, honestly.
Holy fuck
Those were (and still are) my exact thoughts. I was certain the highest shitheads in the land would rule on the side of stupidity. I guess a broken clock is right twice a dayâŠ
Theyâre not quite ready for riots yet.
They gotta finish the wall around the White House first.
LOL! This.
There are some large companies that are gonna get their asses sued.
And that's a good thing.
Let them burn.
Unfortunately the ruling today has no bearing on the will of private companies -- they appear to be free to "do what they want" independent of this decision
Well I guess I'm about to get fired, cuz I'm not getting this shit. I work for a global company...and remotely...and they are still mandating it. What a joke.
Please do. It's your civic duty to not comply.
And I'm not saying you shouldn't sue. It's just that SCOTUS is going to try to avoid the privacy / freedom of choice issue
One of the dissent's arguments was that OSHA's estimates on employees quitting was lower than the threat because they (employees) don't end up following thru with the threat -- in other words they call chicken and expect you to not do shit.
The only way we get out of this is if enough of us don't comply. The Rubicon is here. If we don't pass thru it now, they will and are doing so -- and if they take it now, t'll just be a countdown to boxcars from there.
I assume that means it's blocked until they decide in the case?
No it's blocked for everyone except hospital staff.
Hospitals that accept federal funding. So essentially, if you take federal money, they own you.
That's what happens when you make deals with the devil.
Since health insurance sucks tons of hospitals except fed money.
From the opinion released today https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
So I think this means they've upheld the stay of it going forward while it will still be fought in court. Also it sounds like if it makes it back to the SC there's a good chance they will rule against biden.
Honestly surprised they made the correct ruling, it shouldn't have taken this long. It'll be interesting to see what potatus pivots to next in his war against Americans.
Edit: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
The usual clowns dissented (Breyer, Kagan, Sotomayor)
Just a heads up, this is not a ruling on the OSHA mandate. They only decided that the 6th circuit wasnât right to reinstate it. They could still rule in favor, but until the y make a ruling it cannot be enforced by OSHA.
You call it correct, when they are allowing untold numbers of people to be forced into experimental mRNA gene-therapy or be fired?
YOU ARE INSANE
everyone including Faucist and Bill Gates is backing down
the dems will keep flailing but it will die out of the news cycle soon
It was obvious if you followed the case law
People were being huge doomers for nothing.
Biden BTFO!!
This is a good ruling - but HHS shouldn't be subject to it imo.
Either way, this is great news.
now for the NY CCW ruling.
Blame Roberts and Kav. They said since they face significant risk they have to take if
the story is totally misleading
this was about using OSHA as a club against employers
the healthcare thing is about HHS withholding medicare payments if they don't comply
a totally different case
They were the ones dishing it out to everyone else, so now they have to eat it. Boo hoo
It's just a stay. They haven't actually ruled.
It's not formal, but in reality, it's over.
I understand there is still a chance they could change their arguments if it went back to SCOTUS, but highly unlikely. They would have to be huge cucks
Fuck. Yes.
Health care workers still get hosed by the other garbage ruling.
Get an exemption or tell your employer to get fucked and work somewhere else.
Not for Healthcare workers.... bullshit
that makes me sick!
Plenty of them made that bed complete with hospital corners. They can sleep in it.
Yeah but fuck them! I can't tell you how many doctors/nurses from cardiologists to pediatricians have nagged and guilted me and my family about the damn shot. They apparently love it, so let them all have it. They can be the test subjects.
Yeah fuck you too then. Weâre not all the same dumbass
Seriously, fuck you FLIBS. We're not all the same.
Yep. They want big daddy government telling the rest of us what to do, but now, in a MASSIVELY ironic twist, they have to either get vaxxed or learn to code!
Still need to rule on the federal contractor mandate.
And the federal employee mandate
already overturned in a lower court
They are still operating on the false premise of this vaccine actually preventing disease. It does not. Requiring healthcare workers to get it is not good enough.
They shouldn't be determining health efficacy. It's extremely dissapointing to see them allow mandatory health procedures regardless. Just glad they're not doing it for anyone not under the Federal governments thumb by choice already.
This is a half-just ruling, since our HCW frens are still fucked. I am still losing my job at a university on Tuesday because they want and are enforcing the mandate, but maybe other employers who were on the fence will do the right thing and not require it anymore. I really don't want to be unemployed for a long time, but will do what is necessary to stand for what is right. Thanks to the normally cucked Roberts for finally voting the right way for a change. I am putting this in the win column.
Healthcare worker here, TOTAL BS ruling i don't even have patient interaction, looks like ill be looking for a job outside of healthcare. I've been in healthcare for the last 15 years, and its been great. However, healthcare is NOT what it used to be. I used to be proud of what i did to save lives on a daily basis, but not anymore. FUCK YOU JOE BIDEN!!!!!
Just make an appointment to get it and cover your shoulder with a prosthetic flesh pad. You can cover it at the top with your shirt and wear a cast to cover the bottom part. I genuinely considered this as a last resort if it got crazy.
Then I decided as a matter of principle I would vocally refuse and that this was my hill.
remote workers with no patient contact are exempt from the mandate
Healthcare workers still got screwed.
Yeah but fuck them! I can't tell you how many doctors/nurses from cardiologists to pediatricians have nagged and guilted me and my family about the damn shot. They apparently love it, so let them all have it. They can be the test subjects.
Told you. Told you all.
I don't know if you watch Razorfist, but you'd like him. His recent video on Fauci getting his ass caved in by Rand Paul ended with a great little message for the black-pillers, of which this site has many. (It's around the 6:40 mark.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZAR64rMGzY
I've been eating downvotes for a week saying that doomers were being faggots over this, that the facts didn't favor them. They insisted they were "realists".
Nope, they were just being whiny bitches.
Doomer today. Prophets tomorrow. Now instead of downvotes you can eat dick to celebrate.
The only good part about being blackpilled is that you're happy to be wrong.
Ooo wow some of us didnât lose our rights today. Great victory!
Whats the other two times?
Mandates are for fags anyway! USA, USA, USA, LET"S GO BRANDON! WHOOOOOOOOO!
so are man dates
Per SCOTUSblog in case anyone wants a more direct source:
https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/1481710289125089283
And for pedes who like to actually stay informed, the opinions--
Based one blocking workplace shit: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
Cuck one allowing healthcare tyranny: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a240_d18e.pdf
So I guess just fuck you, prole, if you're a medicaid-funded healthcare worker (that's like basically ANY hospital at this point, isn't it?) or a federal employee.
well, if you work for the federal government you give up rights.
I donât work for the government, but my work has a few government contracts (NOT the majority of our business), so it looks like Iâm still covered.
Bullshit.
Federal contractor mandate is still stayed. These rulings do not affect that.
is there not a case for that still ongoing?
Does this include the mandate for federal contractors?
I guess weâll find out about this mandate killing rural hospitals. Their only other option is to stop accepting Medicare/Medicaid patients.
The opinion does recognize that this is only an interim final rule, and that for such a rule, they did not need to consider the impact to rural hospitals. However, the final rule must.
So that is the new avenue of attack. Do not give up if you work in health care! Resist to the last moment
It's basically everyone that works in healthcare. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
the rulings basically boil down to: 84m workers is too many, but 10m workers is okay
Not enough. All mandates are unconstitutional and should be struck down.
Apparently, Roberts and Kavanaugh joined the liberal justices in making the mandate stand for healthcare workers.
Joined? They are part of liberal ass cancer side of the court. Especially Roberts that absolute cuck
Good work, kid. Now donât get cocky
Great fucking news! Now if only they would end it for healthcare workers.
Cope vax-Nazis
Ok states, time to tell the feds to take their Medicare funding and FO.
I worked as a therapist in a nursing home in NY. I refused to quit my job, so they suspended me without pay and filled my position the same week. I asked what my official status was, considering they've already filled my position. THEY WON'T FIRE ME! "Just get vaccinated", they said, "Provide us with proof and you can come back to work." I didn't go through all this just to give up and take the fucking shot. Get wrecked.
This is a fucking disaster. I wouldnât have gone into nursing if I knew the government could force me to be injected with experimental drugs every time something remotely dangerous happened.
Take that, Brandon!!
From Link: "VACCINE MANDATE STRUCK DOWN: Supreme Court blocks enforcement of Biden administration's OSHA workplace vaccine-or-test mandate, but allows enforcement of HHS mandate on healthcare workers."
Millions of people being forced to take this Big Pharma poison is outrageous.
âCongress has authorized the Secretary to impose condi- tions on the receipt of Medicaid and Medicare funds that âthe Secretary finds necessary in the interest of the health and safety of individuals who are furnished services.â 42 U. S. C. §1395x(e)(9).* COVIDâ19 is a highly contagious, dangerous, andâespecially for Medicare and Medicaid patientsâdeadly disease. The Secretary of Health and Hu- man Services determined that a COVIDâ19 vaccine man- date will substantially reduce the likelihood that healthcare workers will contract the virus and transmit it to their patients. 86 Fed. Reg. 61557â61558. He accord- ingly concluded that a vaccine mandate is ânecessary to pro- mote and protect patient health and safetyâ in the face of the ongoing pandemic. Id., at 61613.â
âThe rule thus fits neatly within the language of the statute. After all, ensuring that providers take steps to avoid transmitting a dangerous virus to their patients is con- sistent with the fundamental principle of the medical pro- fession: first, do no harm. It would be the âvery opposite of efficient and effective administration for a facility that is supposed to make people well to make them sick with COVIDâ19.â Florida v. Department of Health and Human Servs., 19 F. 4th 1271, 1288 (CA11 2021).â
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a240_d18e.pdf
Imagine these idiots forcing millions of health care workers to take an intervention they refused.
No idiots forcing millions of health care workers, but criminal murderers who intentionally want to harm We The People, Liberty, Freedom and Pursue of Happiness.
Just found this German video (activate the English captions) which proves how it is done via the tests and change (increase) of tests always directly before a new wave of corona cases. !!!! The video explains also how via the tests they could fabricate the illusion that the vaccinations worked in 2021.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY1AJVvb7bc
Except not for health care workers so this is still basically a half victory.
Picking Kavanaugh to the supreme Court was a colossal mistake.
This is exactly what i predicted, just enough to prevent people from rioting while still holding on to as much control as possible
This is not a win. Its a loss. Classic lose lose scenario. 2 mandates. Almost exactly the same things. One for healthcare workers, one for other businesses. You allow one to stand but block the other? Makes no sense. They both massively violate the constitution. To allow either to stand is a big blow.
Exactly.
The ides for the Healthcare one from what im gathering. Only applies to Hospitals that take federal money, like grants and such. AKA if you made a deal with the devil, the devil sets the rules.
No, it's basically everyone that works in healthcare. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.
Incoming lawsuits from all who have already lost their job due to the âmandateâ. Let the lawsuits rain like hellfire on these commies!
Imagine being Kavanaugh and fidgetting with your mask so much the guy had to draw you with your hands on the mask moving it around.
Clarence obviously the most badass dude on the bench
Sause other than a tweet saying its blocked?
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/13/supreme-court-ruling-biden-covid-vaccine-mandates.html
Thanks! 6-3 OK! Not horrible.
Was that the actual count?
It's the 6 conservatives ruling against it, makes sense
Roberts doesn't make sense here, but I'll take it.
Yes
.... 6-3...
Yes, but, what's the actual count?
.... VI-III...
Yes.
Thats a fucking LAUGH.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
People should take the time to be informed and read the actual opinions linked here. It's important we do that.
about 900 news stories
Theyâre talking about it on Fox now with Turley
Stop watching Fox
Doomers and leftists BTFO!!!
I dance and drink their tears!
Mixed ruling. One stands (the CMS one). One gets shot down (for businesses).
If Iâm reading this stuff right, the CMS mandate might still be struck down on the merits later. Granted, that doesnât help health care workers right now, but might eventually help set precedent
These morons are equating the clotshot to wearing gloves. That is how ignorant they are of the science behind these vaxes. They act like they're a polio vaccine and end transmission. Don't these fools ever look at anything but a SCOTUS brief?
Fuck off doomers.
It's not dooming to say this was a loss with the cms mandate being upheld. That mandate is not just impacting doctors and nurses.
But they're the "realists"!
This decision was very much not the slam dunk it should have been. I'm frankly amazed Roberts made the right choice.
Will you feel comfortable getting medical care in the USA knowing the only medical staff left submitted to this and will still try to push it onto you?
I donât need this to not trust the medical system.
Half upheld. Also, this won't stop employers like mine from requiring a vaccine.
OSHA Rule: 6-3 to halt it while the case works its way through the system.
CMS Rule: 5-4 to allow it to be enforced while the case works its way through the system. (Roberts and Kavanaugh again show themselves to be less "right wing" than advertised).
Now do colleges
colleges, stores, event venues, restaurants both from the employee and customer-facing side. No mandates, no "papers, please" and no goddamn masks
For real? Can't each place still ask for these things? Is this IN the ruling? If so, I'm really excited.
Fuck Kav! The CMS one applies to me. What an absolute piece of shit!!!