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Blndhairylegs 93 points ago +93 / -0

ruling wasnt that mandate was unconstitutional, just that OSHA creating and enforcing it was. If it was a law passed by Congress, it would most likely be just fine. I dont agree, beleive whole idea is extremely unconstitutional as does Clarence Thomas, but rest of SCOTUS are apparently retarded.

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JESUSJUGS 35 points ago +35 / -0

They are clown 🤡 monkeys 🙉

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Inquisitor_Corvus 12 points ago +13 / -1

Ass clowns

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Bdbdbdbdbfffbrnfbr5 3 points ago +4 / -1

If you ever want to realize just how useless the Republican party is remember that the two most liberal judges on the Supreme Court (Roberts and Kavanaugh) were appointed by Republican presidents

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10MeV 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kavanagh crying because they were being mean to him was the tell. Leftist beta-males cry in public. I was done with him when I saw that.

What, Kavanagh? You don't think being on the SCOTUS would demand strength of character? GTFOH, wimp.

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SpezLovesHisBull 1 point ago +1 / -0

Roberts fucks children and kavanaugh is a rapist

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tyrantsgetthescope 17 points ago +17 / -0

I don’t care if the penalty for not taking it is the electric chair, not gonna take it, will subvert at every opportunity

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Endprism 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not now not ever

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KekistanPM 6 points ago +6 / -0

I honestly thought the judges would let OSHA do it citing Jacobson v. Massachusetts ruling that the states could enforce compulsory vaccination laws, and they would even try to double down with "promote the general welfare."

Either argument would be utterly absurd, but not to activist judges.

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victory2024 4 points ago +4 / -0

States can do much more than the Feds under the Constitution. Theres no general federal police power.

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Steady3 3 points ago +3 / -0

I disagree. The rest of SCOTUS is definitely retarded.

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ProsecuteTreason 2 points ago +2 / -0

Corrupt and conveniently retard!

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WashingtonIsNext 50 points ago +50 / -0

These rulings only come out because of expected compliance. If every healthcare employee impacted by this decision stopped coming to work, this vaccine game would come to a halt before the end of this month, I'd wager.

Instead they chose to strongarm a demographic of workers that "trusts the science" much moreso than your average workgroup.

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OperationRudyRusso 19 points ago +19 / -0

They trust their lifestyles and their paychecks.

Most of them know.

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leatherbottom 5 points ago +7 / -2

I don't know if that's true. Everyone I know in the healthcare field (a small sample, mind you) seems to eat the shit up.

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NotMyGovernor -3 points ago +4 / -7

Nursing is easy money. Easy degree, easy job, easy money, easy ego. Too many of those would never go back to sleeping shit, not even for a shortened life.

Remove the government monolith’icisizing regulations of the health care industry and all of this will go away.

What will happen at this point is people won’t even go into health care at all.

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NicklePickle 5 points ago +5 / -0

Are you a nurse?

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zzyzyx 5 points ago +6 / -1

He's clueless.

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NicklePickle 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agreed

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Boobzrule 4 points ago +4 / -0

Easy money my ass. And let’s see you pass the NCLEX w/o a years worth of sleepless nights preparing… you sound like a person who’s never achieved anything and is mad at others that you perceive to have achieved something you feel you could never

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Endprism 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nursing is not easy money. It’s a hard job

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Damadhatter 0 points ago +1 / -1

Some of the last inelegant people I know managed to make it through nursing school.

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Voltage 0 points ago +0 / -0

Sister-in-law was doing travel nursing before she started medical school. There are contracts paying I've heard as much as 8k a week.

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EastTexasMadLad 1 point ago +1 / -0

My 26yo niece is making 6k a week in Dallas as an ER nurse.

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NotMyGovernor 0 points ago +1 / -1

Butt hurt nurses are downvoting me. Let’s see them explain why they took nursing over engineering.

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LessSwampMoreMAGA 4 points ago +4 / -0

I mean that’s the reasoning that Roberts used for not overturning Obamacare. That it would do more harm than good which completely ignores individual rights and liberty, and that was a decade ago.

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CanadianIceman 2 points ago +2 / -0

The entire hoax is compliance and slow boiling the frog

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sir_rockness 33 points ago +37 / -4

I bet the good folks left in Healthcare are very upset about this and they should be.

The really sad thing is I don't care. Healthcare has basically become a quasi branch of the federal govt due to their acceptance of Medicare and medicaid and it shows.

I basically don't trust my Healthcare providers anymore. I grew up around doctors and nurses and I've been shocked to see how fucking stupid and trusting they've been of the medical establishment and how they've flippanty dismissed their hippocratic oathes.

Now there have been exemptions but the norm has been to go along with it and even promote it... just sick of them. I view them the same way I view teachers. Teachers are half the reason I had to leave my home state. I'm sick and tired of people sacrificing their principles for a buck.

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OperationRudyRusso 18 points ago +18 / -0

The hardest thing about being a doctor is getting into med school.

You know what they call the person who finishes dead last in Med school?

Doctor.

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sir_rockness 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wow I'm from my understanding the process is rayciss. Brown people can score lower and still pass?

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texsnoop 11 points ago +11 / -0

The CMS rule applies to basically everyone that works in healthcare, private or not. The bullshit reason why is because even private practices that don't mandate the jab nor take medicare/medicaid need to be affiliated with a hospital for both their private insurance contracts as well as their liability insurance.

So, the few based healthcare works left are now completely fucked.

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HiddenDekuScrub 4 points ago +5 / -1

I think you missed the obvious "out" there.

There are private practices out there that take no insurance. Whether or not they're affordable isn't an issue. (They're not going to be equipped like an emergency room.) But they do exist. (Unfortunately all the ones near me seemingly exist for tranny hormones and weed....)

People can still go to hospitals if they need them for emergencies or whatnot. I suspect we will see more non-insurance private practices develop to get away from this rule.

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Wanderlust 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is my plan after my training.

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TheTelltaleFly 3 points ago +3 / -0

Keep looking. They are out there. I found a great private Christian family medical practice near me that does not take insurance. You pay out of pocket which sucks but if you aren’t a degenerate fat fuck and you know how to rest and stay hydrated when you get sick, you don’t need a lot of doctor visits.

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texsnoop 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even if a practice is cash only and has no private insurance contracts, they still need a hospital affiliation for their liability insurance. Even physicians that make no mistakes (just kidding, everyone does) need liability insurance because patients will sometimes sue for no reason, or have an expected side effect from a procedure or medication that they were warned about, and sue anyway.

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EastTexasMadLad 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is not true.

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texsnoop 2 points ago +2 / -0

Please elaborate. This is accurate to the best of my knowledge, and I wish it weren't true.

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sir_rockness 1 point ago +1 / -0

Time to find a good Amish doctor... though from what I've heard they're bullshit.

When I got the coof I didn't go to the doc... it wasn't fun but I got over it. Outside of major surgery wtf are Healthcare providers even for?

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KekistanPM 3 points ago +3 / -0

The sad thing is if all of them were barred from practicing medicine, there would be an incredibly massive shortage of healthcare professionals.

Though a major reason we have a shortage even now is because tens of millions of people don't take care of themselves when they could. It's a shame that the shortest path to gratification doesn't include a desire to exercise, eat healthy food, and avoid junk food or processed food. And we now have millions of new hypochondriacs to boot.

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Voltage 1 point ago +1 / -0

The reason for that is the schools. Almost all the teachers/professors are radical leftist, and if you don't conform than you don't pass.

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OrangeElvis 16 points ago +16 / -0

Everyone has a right to make their own medical decisions... except medical professionals.

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CALI_MAGA_MAMA 18 points ago +18 / -0

Scotus didn't even say we have the right to choose. They just said congress has to force us instead of osha. They can fuck right off with that.

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peltast 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is that an "emergency session of CONGRESS for a midnight vote" I'm seeing??

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ijwgzm 3 points ago +3 / -0

The Senate already voted against the OSHA mandates. That's one of the arguments the Supreme Court used to justify scrapping them; it was clear that no such law could be passed because the Senate wouldn't vote for it.

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peltast 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's one of the arguments the Supreme Court used to justify scrapping them;

This is one effing scary reason for them to be using.

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PonySoldier66 15 points ago +16 / -1

Healthcare workers see what is going on and they are not speaking up.

Maybe they need to clean their own house.

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Behind_blue_eyes 11 points ago +11 / -0

Lots are leaving the field. I know many who are refusing and willing to leave medicine completely

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EastTexasMadLad 2 points ago +2 / -0

16 years as an anesthesiologist. I currently have a religious exemption. If it goes away, I quit that same day. Unvaxxed docs are all trying to figure out how to leave the system. Trust me.

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Behind_blue_eyes 3 points ago +3 / -0

24 years here… everything from working in the field as a medic to working ER, ICU or just reading ekgs. I’m with you…My exemption goes and so do I. I’ll flip burgers and take the huge pay cut before I get that jab. I don’t have to take a flu or shingles vax so why this one?

Folks are also not realizing how many places those mandates cover. Would they prefer someone with decades of experience to draw their blood at the lab or the person who just passed a 6 wk course? That heart monitor you are wearing…. Want me to read it? Or the guy who passed a literally 2 week class? I damn sure would prefer an experienced anesthesiologist putting me to sleep. I kinda want to wake up

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EastTexasMadLad 3 points ago +3 / -0

100%. We lost at the SCOTUS. If they can mandate hc workers, then can mandate military, aviation, government contractors, etc

I joke to my patients that going to sleep is free, it’s the wake up that costs!

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Drael 1 point ago +1 / -0

I hope they are also trying to figure out how to fix it. What if they need a doctor?

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OperationRudyRusso 5 points ago +5 / -0

They know.

They’ve always known.

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ijwgzm 1 point ago +1 / -0

And many of them continued to kill people anyway.

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TheAwakePatriot 12 points ago +13 / -1

Roberts was appointed by Bush, a globalist. Why wouldn't he side with the commies? That's all he does. Hes bought and paid for.

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victory2024 5 points ago +5 / -0

Bush also appointed Alito though....

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StrongIsland 11 points ago +11 / -0

Well do you follow the Hippocratic oath or do you follow orders?

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Reborned20 7 points ago +7 / -0

We need not follow Unconsitutional laws or mandates.

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Daughterfreedom76 6 points ago +6 / -0

Less healthcare workers is good for their team. It allows them to continue the false narrative about Covid and over ran hospitals. This also means there could be less workers which could lead to more deaths, which they are hopeful for, unfortunately.

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Carmen1956 6 points ago +6 / -0

Both are compromised. They know the Constitution. Someone has something on both of them and they are willing to doom themselves to hell to protect the secret!

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Joeverhisskies 3 points ago +3 / -0

Government funded = government rules. Just another reason for the gov't to fund everything and grow their own cancerous selves. What ISN'T gov't funded?

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BushWacked 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly. Their ruling was yet another frog in the boiling pot, incremental loss.

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Arwyn3x 3 points ago +3 / -0

The real problem here, and it is a Republic ending problem, is that they think they can base their judgments on what they think is right, not on the Constitution.

They think that they are smarter than our Founding Fathers.

But not to worry anymore, the Biden Administration is telling us we can ignore the black robbed idiots in lace collars.

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VoltronGreen1981 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mandates are not constitutional. It's a massive overreach of the executive branch and nothing more.

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Steve56775 2 points ago +2 / -0

Roberts is corrupt. Too many trips on the lolita express.

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ed_shaw 2 points ago +2 / -0

Supreme Court has blurred the line between principles and policies. Wasn't supposed to turn out this way.

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MADOCCO 2 points ago +2 / -0

If they have a medical exemption or religious exemption, they should file - the CMS mandate rightfully and lawfully allows for those exemptions. All other healthcare workers who oppose the vaccine should quit. Stop complaining about the system that you're a willful participant in. Change the approach, change how the world works around you.

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AmericanJawa 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was under the impression that it was a matter of "If you take Government Money, Government can tell you what to do".

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StadiumHopper 2 points ago +2 / -0

Much of the health care field brought this on by not opposing Obamacare, and then not standing up for the EUA standard that a test should be limited to volunteers only. I sympathize with those of you that have held out, but your AMA and ANA are at the heart of the big pharma corruption. Only you guys can put a stop to it by taking your medical degrees and telling state boards and the AMA/ANA to shove it up their asses.

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arkivx 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly, Brett Kavenaugh is raping the constitution.

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John_Smallberries 2 points ago +2 / -0

To be fair, Drunk Brett grew up in affluent, super-liberal Bethesda, MD. The only "Republicans" in that communist utopia are RINO grifters.

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South_Florida_Guy 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's almost like saying "healthcare is a human right" and since it requires the labor of others, essentially legalizes slavery/servitude.

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6Hr04eC2 2 points ago +3 / -1

healthcare is already vaccinated at more than 90% and whomever refused was fired. This ruling gives cover to the healthcare industry for all the firing they did.

What can be still salvaged is to make sure the religious exemptions will be honored.

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PedeEPablo 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is that so????

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Keepidahofree 2 points ago +3 / -1

So we get rid of all vaccine requirements? I'm fine with that. I didn't get my kids ANY shots. I won't have to fill out paperwork for it ever again.

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Gatchya 2 points ago +3 / -1

Abolish Medicare and Medicaid

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NotMyGovernor 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kavanaugh should be impeached if we get another repub senate / presidency.

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DonttrustChina 1 point ago +1 / -0

It doesn't. It applies differently depending on whether an institution is wholly private, or takes public money. That's the reasoning.

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clownworld30330 1 point ago +1 / -0

But those penumbras.

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Dwel13R 1 point ago +1 / -0

Roberts should be hanged, and Kavanaugh was a yuge mistake.

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Endprism 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who nominated these asshoe?

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ijwgzm 2 points ago +2 / -0

As I understand it, part of the problem is that the case wasn't argued on the fact that the vaccines don't work. Had it been, the mandate would have been much more difficult to justify.

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123breadman 1 point ago +1 / -0

I know people who are straight antivax (everything, not just Shanghai shivers) went to college to be a nurse for years, then had to quit their career because they didn't know that the medical industry forces you to get vaccinated.

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mainsoda 1 point ago +1 / -0

Seems like a good time to get out of the government job business.

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lenchodahated 1 point ago +1 / -0

wage workers knew

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Znut55 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just like the mandates don't apply to everyone either. This was NEVER about health.

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Mega_MAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

I didn't hear anyone argue that the vax does not prevent the spread!

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1Crabbyoldfucker 1 point ago +1 / -0

We don't need to pack the court, we need to unpack it and buy new robes.

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RyanUpCreek 1 point ago +1 / -0

Get ready to be treated like shit when you go to the hospital if you haven't been treated like shit already. It's going to get worse.

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PEPEpeepee 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm so fucking thankful I left nursing school and went into construction.

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ConsiderThisBoot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nice thing about a constitution is it outlines a republic, if we can keep it.

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keepamericagreat102 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are cucked, Trump stabbed in the back by everyone.

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Jamealtyrome 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was only nurses and doctors that accepted Medicaid and medicare funding. Basically if u take government money gotta play by government rules. Other than that you can still be a dr that doesn't accept goverment money and still have ur practice so thats nice but if your in a hospital your fucked.

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tootthebighorn 1 point ago +1 / -0

Cave-on-all is a disgrace to the so-called conservative justices.

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1080pleb 1 point ago +1 / -0

The problem with making healthcare a "right" is that a doctor, nurse, or other health worker could legally be compelled by threat of fine or force to perform their work, regardless of whether they wanted to or thought in their professional opinion that it was the proper course of action.

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SimpleMAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was unware OSHA was in the constitution, an unelected body mandating something that should go through congress instead.

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Endis 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's what SCOTUS decided when they stayed the OSHA mandate.

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Goatboy66 1 point ago +1 / -0

Federal Healthcare workers aren't paid by the Federal Government. THEIR PAID BY THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS. THE GOVERNMENT STEALS OUR MONEY, AND THEY USE THE AMERICAN TAX PAYERS MONEY TO PAY THE FEDERAL HEALTHCARE WORKERS.

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President_Elect_Pepe 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m not saying you should but I think it’s far more situational and fair for healthcare workers to fight the vaccine on the merits of its so called approval.

Maybe I’m wrong but I don’t see an approved product being provided anywhere as that would not allow Moderna to be subsequently provided.

If there’s no approved product available then the EUA rules prohibiting coercion still apply.

They are trying to have it both ways.

Furthermore the fact that this vaccine doesn’t inhibit spread makes it different than other previously required vaccines which were designed to protect spread.

Show me a hospital which requires the HPV or Pneumonia vaccine. Those are far more similar to what these supposed Covid vaccines are providing at this point.

Those are primarily designed and sold largely to provide protection at the end of your life from diseases. That’s what the Covid vaccine supposedly does now.

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HiddenDekuScrub 1 point ago +1 / -0

While I don't like it, and I know we've said these words a lot these days, the decision wasn't decided on merits, but basically who has the power to do what. And the power was based on medicare and medicaid.

I see a rise in no-insurance private practices in the near future.

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