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leakmouth [S] 136 points ago +138 / -2

I’m in my 40s and already have kids. I don’t even know if I could form real relationships these days. Everyone prefers the company of online strangers

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Wholelottarosie1776 80 points ago +83 / -3

I'm 41 and it's rough. Nobody knows how to just be a human and interact face to face. It's very lonely.

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Wholelottarosie1776 52 points ago +52 / -0

As I said before i had a bone marrow transplant in August of 2020. My life has been turned upside down. Everything I had was taken from me. It's tough to be a recovering cancer patient, and a conservative in NYC. And with the mandates everyone has to be jabbed to have a job here. Can't move with no money.

But even before then it sucked trying to date here. It's all about hookups and superficial. I'm not a hood chick so black guys shun me, I'm black so white guys moms have heart attacks and I'm not good enough to date. Conversations are dead ends. How can someone respond to people that just want to text or give one word answers?

I post here and then went on a 7 mile hike. I have a life that I still live outside of the internet. If you met me in real l'd be the same person. It's hard to be real and everyone thinks you have an angle. The men I meet that I click with are married. And married men are off limits.

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AOCs_tits_4ever 33 points ago +33 / -0

On the plus side, if all the men you click with are married, that means you appeal to the "marrying type" - which means its just a matter of time til you find the marrying type who isn't yet married. Maybe on one of your hikes - and good for you with keeping in touch with the land.

Hang in there. Stay true and things will turn around.

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PerchingEagle 17 points ago +17 / -0

I love how u/AOCs_tits_4ever is taking it upon himself this evening to provide sensitive relationship advice to our young ladypedes.

This is a special place.

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Vino 14 points ago +14 / -0

Black is beautiful! Find a white dude that can't stand his mom. Boom! You win twice girl.

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fac1 1 point ago +1 / -0

I would say, "Skin color is irrelevant to beauty".

There are good-looking people of every skin color.

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Nyranger16 10 points ago +10 / -0

White moms in New York might be like that, but I can't think of a single white family out west that wouldn't embrace you. If you get a chance, at least visit a freedom-loving state and maybe you'll meet a good man with a good family

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gloriouschairmanpao 6 points ago +6 / -0

I know you said you don’t have money to move, and I believe you, but that’s a good goal to consider and maybe build toward.

You might not find a good man somewhere else, but you definitely won’t find one in New York City.

As an aside, at 41, you shouldn’t have to worry so much about what a man’s mother thinks. If the men in your age bracket are still letting their moms run their lives, uh, good, say thank you for saving you some wasted time.

I think you’ll find that other areas are much more affordable and offer much more fruitful opportunities for dating.

God bless, and best of luck.

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DuxBellorum 6 points ago +9 / -3

You're a 41yo single black chick who is lonely?

Dare I ask what you were doing when you were in your prime, aka 18-25yo?

I'm a white male in my 30s and I've already given up trying to find a relationship. I can't imagine how difficult it would be for yourself. Modern western culture doesn't really create the right personalities and values for men and women to set them up well for finding a good relationship.

Guys only giving you one liners or not having an ability to socialize just means they aren't into you. They don't want to get your hopes up because they know there will never be any long-term potential. Married guys can be more friendly because they know they aren't leading you on since you know up front they're taken. You're going to have to lower your standards in men or improve your attractiveness to men. Quality men don't care about your education, career, intelligence, etc... Because quality men have an abundance of those things themselves. They're going to care about your physical attractiveness (if you're not a skinny black girl who runs at the gym 4 days a week, you're really playing at a huge disadvantage which should be easy to fix) and personality (generally speaking men like happy women not depressed.) Act stereotypical feminine girl. Think like sensitive, nurturing, caring, nice, warm, oh and submissive and obedient, yes the two words women hate that most men will dance around even though they ultimately all want. The more independent strong woman who don't need no man you act, the more you'll turn guys away.

Good luck.

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magalee 3 points ago +3 / -0

Damn, this guy speaking some fiery truth!

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hansgruber7 7 points ago +7 / -0

I know what you're saying but I think you just have to be more proactive now. Get connected in an activity or group where people still interact. Get involved in a church, or join a hobby group or something like that.

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Wholelottarosie1776 14 points ago +14 / -0

Ive been trying fren but its really difficult here.

Cancer support groups are once a month, virtually.

Any group I join that is not political (aviation, crotchet, health, cycling, traveling, dancing) turns to Orange Man bad and anti vaxxers bad. Even in our transplant group i was shunned because I said I wanted to wait before getting the jab. The assumption is everyone is a liberal and is in lock step with the narrative. There is no point being around people if you can't express yourself freely.

I was in a libertarian meetup and they were still meeting in midtown after you had to show papers to get in the bar. I pointed this out and was asked to leave the group.

I was in a local cat volunteer group and served as the offical photographer. The lady who owned the house we fed them at became a busy body and was mingling in our affairs during our shifts. Everyone was annoyed by this. I said in group text that it was a bummer that she was meddling. The head organizer called me personally and told me to keep my opinion to myself as I might discourage others from wanting to volunteer. Speaking the truth was not allowed. A few weeks later she ended the group because of the meddling karen.

Not having a car makes life limited. Based people are out on long island or upstate. Bronx to long island via train is a mother.

Finding like minded, sane, chill people here is tough.

Im not giving up and im working on getting out of here.

Thank you for your comments.

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FormerGraveheart 3 points ago +3 / -0

Im not giving up and im working on getting out of here.

Good, because it sounds like everyone in NYC is terrible anyway. Just focus on this, and don't even worry about relationships until you can escape that hellhole anyway. That's my plan too. There are good, sane people out there in conservative areas, and I think things will turn around for you when you get to one.

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hansgruber7 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, didn't realize you were in the Bronx. That may be your problem and you may need to get out of there when you can. The best people I have found are at my local church. No one wears face diapers and most people are not injected. You could try that. Just keep checking out churches until you find one where people aren't wearing face diapers. That's a good sign that it's a legit church with good clear-thinking people in it. Keep an eye out for people on here that are from your area. We started a great Signal chat group for people on here from my area for example. Good luck fren.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

whats prevented you from owning a car?

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WhatevaIDoWhatIWant 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'm with ya. It's very lonely in this world. Maybe it's just me and my mental health problems but I think its also maybe just society. I don't feel like I fit anywhere. Granted, I'm in a Blue state so that doesn't help

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JMaN 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think if you don't have some "mental health problems" in this day and age then you're not paying attention.

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Spicy_maymay 4 points ago +4 / -0

Do you people not go to church? I've moved to 10-15 different cities in my life and we have never had trouble making good friends everywhere we go. The problem is likely in the mirror. Improve yourself.

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Wholelottarosie1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

Church here is not like church elsewhere. The local catholic church is very anti social in my neighborhood. No community events, just mass and funeral services. There are African churches but the parishioners are all from the same countries and villages. I went to a church in Fairbanks (Harvest Church) and I loved it. Im still in contact with the women I met there. NYC is a godless place.

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The_kool_mom 3 points ago +3 / -0

I applaud you for all your efforts and also your strength in fighting cancer! If you ever felt like trying again, you will find like minded people at a non-denominational Bible Church. Also don't count out Texas. There are many many mixed race couples and families here and no one bats an eye. It's not a thing at all. However, when I went up North to visit, everything seemed very...segregated.

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Junionthepipeline 3 points ago +3 / -0

Go to lodge

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Stallionstyle 34 points ago +35 / -1

I'm in my 40's, have four teenage kids, and married for 20 years. God forbid something happens to my wife, but I would only find another relationship in a non-denominational church that has traditional, conservative values.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 9 points ago +11 / -2

The only way I could see myself getting married in the shoes of modern day 20 year olds was either within a good church that I was already a part of (rule of thumb, good churches have balanced sex ratios - half men, half women), or going abroad - Vietnam or the Philippines mainly.

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leetnessmonster 9 points ago +9 / -0

If Oprah told you to marry her, and your fiances were desperate would you somehow marry her for love and desire no one else?

Thats how it is when guys go for foreign brides. Your main selling point is your money and her desperation. As soon as she figures out how to leave with the money and cut you out, she will.

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Junionthepipeline 3 points ago +4 / -1

Sure but every white American woman under fifty is irredeemably broke and not really worth the trouble

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leetnessmonster 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you try to find a girl in the city, you will almost always find some kind of baggage. To be honest the Amish (or rural small town) tend to have women who are fit to be wives because they have a skill outside of posting pics online.

This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIVAlV8YVF0 that has 17 million views just shows a normal woman pushing hay, why does it have that many views? Because you can tell she has no baggage, no social media, no fakeness. If you are going to marry, that is what you want.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 3 points ago +7 / -4

No, your main selling point is that you are improving the genetics of their children relative to marrying a small dicked asian man, and white men treat women better than any other culture on the planet. They could marry a chink easily if they just wanted money.

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Vino 7 points ago +7 / -0

Can confirm. Last couple I met in this circumstance: she was 30 and a chemical engineer and he was a broke dad of 2 in the middle of a custody battle.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 3 points ago +5 / -2

People dont understand that the statement

Husbands have a moral obligation to beat their wives if they talk out of line

is believed by about 60% of all men and 50% of all women on the planet. Let alone talking about doing the dishes.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

ok wife beater

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leetnessmonster 4 points ago +4 / -0

Have you seen the divorce rate for the west? Almost half of all marriages end in divorce so the western men must be doing something wrong.

Middle eastern/Asian/Hispanic/etc men don't put their women on pedestals and end up having 4-5 kids, while western "superior" men might get two with a divorce shortly after. The saying "Nice guys finish last" has been said for a reason

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BeefyBelisarius 3 points ago +3 / -0

Have you seen the divorce rate for the west? Almost half of all marriages end in divorce so the western men must be doing something wrong.

~80% of all divorces in the US are initiated by the woman. You can't blame this one all on the man.

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leetnessmonster 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was most in jest, but when someone says they are "improving genetics" and how they "treat women better then any other culture"... I have to ask if it was so good why are your women leaving you in droves?

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +5 / -3

Women want to get treated as sex objects, not equals.

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leetnessmonster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Women want masculine, men want feminine. I'll give you a test, do you find these masculine women attractive? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw7IXvaU02A

Now after watching that video were you attracted to any of them? Why not? They're fit, are they not? Despite that you won't want any of them because despite being "fit" they lost what makes them feminine. Women have the same feeling when the man they are with loses what they see as masculine (taking the lead, assertive but cool, etc). Yes the man can have money and compensate for his lack of masculine features by being nice and "equal" (just like the women above were "fit"), but when you lose what makes you masculine, so goes the attraction.

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Pissed_American 4 points ago +4 / -0

If you are dating an Asian woman, it's pertinent that she's not born here. There is a huge division of mentality when you've actually grown up in a different society.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 3 points ago +3 / -0

100%.

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saltyviewer123 22 points ago +22 / -0

welcome fren

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Joeshmoe91 19 points ago +19 / -0

I had a MySpace wayyyy back in the day. Gladly declined on making another social media account. Saw that shit for what it was. Has it left me outta the loop? Maybe. Has it made my life better and more fulfilling? Definitely

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Kamalas_a_Bitch 24 points ago +24 / -0

I found my wife on Craigslist in the looking for roommates section. Once she moved in and feasted her eyes on this hunk of man the rest is history. I’m up to my eyeballs in children. Thank you Craig.

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Forbidden_outcast 16 points ago +16 / -0

this has me laughing my ass off

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Kamalas_a_Bitch 2 points ago +6 / -4

If you are in a position to rent out a room, this is a great method to find a girl. You get to pre-screen them and do a background check to weed out the crazies. Make sure they are attractive of course. Then once they move in you can further evaluate. Tend the flames of desire by lifting weights and cooking in front of them. Then once their boyfriend dumps them and they are sad, move in to offer some “comfort” the rest is easy.

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Redtrip 12 points ago +12 / -0

Ah, the classic Groom-A-Ho method

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Pissed_American 9 points ago +11 / -2

This is beta tier shit.

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Kamalas_a_Bitch -2 points ago +1 / -3

Ok handshake

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leetnessmonster 8 points ago +8 / -0

With the #METOO stuff, its easy for her to scream rape and you lose it all.

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Kamalas_a_Bitch 3 points ago +4 / -1

Always follow the creed “never stick your dick in crazy” and should be ok

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honeymussie 3 points ago +3 / -0

This might work if you're in your early 20's with a co-ed house and have a room to rent out in a nice part of town/near a college, but if it's just a two bedroom and you're a dude trying to rent out to a girl then this won't work. No self respecting girl will move into that situation with a man they don't know, it screams danger. The girls willing to go into that sort of living arrangement will be reckless (probably do drugs), have little self preservation instinct, and probably be whores. They would have to be an acquaintance first to be comfortable moving in with you, def not as a stranger on craigslist.

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Kamalas_a_Bitch 1 point ago +1 / -0

Totally good point and my above recommendation is somewhat facetious of course. I had 2 bedrooms to rent out and was in my late 20’s/early 30’s when I had roommates. I was still hip. I got extremely lucky to find the love of my life this way.

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deplorable-d00d 1 point ago +2 / -1

Don't shit where you eat.

I've had some nice female roommates, but you always have to think of them as ugly or your sister.

And NEVER, EVER, EVER be that fucking douchebag who "rents out a room to find a chick". Please just cut your dick off and do the world a favor, you fucking creeper!

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MAGA1775 16 points ago +18 / -2

You should see how many men now have relationships with "virtual girlfriends" where they give all their money to some stranger online.

Its sad. This society is doomed.

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TheImpossible1 2 points ago +3 / -1

And who had access to them during their formative years?

The school system is designed to produce ATMs for women to exploit.

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IncredibleMrE1 93 points ago +94 / -1

Women in the workplace is what killed the birth rates. Spending their fertile years working for corporations instead of getting married, making babies, raising kids. Throw in abortion on top of that...Yeah.

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nds19 53 points ago +53 / -0

1965 Immigration Act had a hand too. Anything to drive down wages of American men, including the widening of the tax base. I cannot fathom why any woman would rather answer to a boss than spend time with their children.

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Lilyfarmer 26 points ago +26 / -0

I think a lot of it had to do with the women who raised us in the 90s and 00s. I can name the number of women who enjoyed motherhood and seemed happy on zero fingers. My mom once described having my brother and I as "the end of joy" in her life and later went on to say that her life was "one vile fucking task after another." My dad was a shitty unfaithful man with zero interest in his children. She was career focused and worked a lot. So I don't totally blame her.

Plus there's a huge amount of media that makes motherhood and womanhood look awful and presents it as modern slavery.

I had the horrible fear of becoming a mom the entire time I was pregnant. I was terrified I was going to hate it. Because every woman I knew bitched incessantly about it.

But then I had children and it just clicked. I didn't experience anything like the joylessness or grief I was told I would. My husband works extremely hard so I can be a sahm and homeschool our kids. I know he's sacrificing for me to be here more. I can truly say my life was meaningless before I had my children and I imagine I'll look back on these years are the best part of my life. Motherhood has been an eye opening experience.

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Pissed_American 13 points ago +13 / -0

I really enjoyed reading your comment. God bless you and your family.

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nds19 9 points ago +9 / -0

You make a really good point. Like you said, i think you have to experience it just to see how special being a parent is. I'm a single guy in my mid twenties and remember my friends' moms who were "conservative" but were scared of not working. They thought being "stuck at home" was vapid and would mean the end of their lives. What a shallow thought.

My mother was a stay at home mom and I was lucky as hell to be raised that way. She said it would've been nice to earn money, but she wouldn't have had it any other way since you never have to entrust your kids with someone else.

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Lilyfarmer 15 points ago +15 / -0

I had watched a convention, I can't recall the name of now, but it was men talking about modern women. Basically it boiled down to 50s housewives being angry, bored, unhappy moms, who raised angry, bored, unhappy moms.

Women felt like sexism was real. They felt disrespected and unimportant. A lot of it came down to lack of respect from spouses because they were so idle all the time. The 50s was the transition into microwave dinners, modern appliances, and supermarkets. And honestly, I don't think they're wrong, women stopped being industrious in the home. My grandmother literally chain smoked and drank her way through the 50s and 60s. My mom never made me breakfast or lunch the entire time I was a child.

I'm not the loveliest flower in the bunch tbh, but I taught myself how to make beautiful meals and desserts by the time I was 22 and boy did that bring the boys to the yard 🤣 I also garden, sew, do all the yard work, make all our cleaning supplies, and run a very small business selling plants at farmer's markets. Not once have I ever felt disrespected by my husband about my position as a sahm or housewife. In fact my husband told me once that it would be easier for me to find another husband than it would for him to find another wife.

I wish women could embrace womanhood instead of fighting the biological tide. My boomer mom looks at me like I have two heads sometimes and constantly reminds me that "money is power in a relationship. " It's like we're two different species. But I can say at 33 that I have lived a very happy and fulfilling life. And I'm proud to think that someday my children will be better parents and partners because I decided to break the cycle.

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TrappedRed_in_blue 1 point ago +1 / -0

I love being a sahm but boy does it get very irritating to constantly do the same task over and over 10x a day. Pick up toys, wash dishes, make/plan food, fold laundry. I hate housework and whenever possible, my kids and I are outside learning foraging, map skills, math, etc. If I could have a wife do the housework while I do all the yard work plus homeschooling, I'd be even happier.

I also loved working and earning my own wage outside the house, and once my kids are old enough to leave me more time to do so, I will look into part time jobs. Right now, the kids need me most, dishes can wait.

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Lilyfarmer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Having hobbies helps. I spend at least an hour a day indulging in a hobby I enjoy. It makes me feel productive in a different way than housework. I'm also cultivating and honing my skills while doing them.

I also make an effort to train my brain to focus on the positive. Every morning when I wake up I name three things I'm grateful for. I don't think too much about the negatives, like wiping pee off the toilet seat for the third time in a day or the fact that my husband walked through the house with muddy shoes. I just do what needs done, and if I start to feel negative, I sit down with a cup of tea and take a mental break.

And you're right dishes can wait. There's always more dirty dishes. There isn't always more time with our children.

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TrappedRed_in_blue 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank for you the reminder to actually say outloud the things I am grateful for, it is easy to forget.

I need to work on just doing what needs done to get it over with, when I procrastinate everything accumulates. Then I've got a hurricane disaster zone in my house that will require an equally tempestuous clean up! Hahah 😁

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TheImpossible1 21 points ago +30 / -9

Bullshit. What killed birth rates was the slow reveal of hatred women had for men.

Birth rates fell faster in 2016 than in 2008.

Revealing what they were made more people abstain from having kids than complete economic collapse.

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BadManOrange 24 points ago +27 / -3

Conditioning. Just like women have been conditioned to whore themselves when they're single and then never put out for their husbands only to wonder why their marriage is falling apart.

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VoidWanderer 12 points ago +14 / -2

And then they divorce the guy, take half or more of the stuff he worked hard for, and leave him screwed thanks to alimony and child support. And people wonder why the marriage rates are lower than during the great depression.

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TheImpossible1 1 point ago +4 / -3

No, they're biologically inclined to do that. Get the best genes for their child and then get a provider to raise it.

There's so much wrong with them that I can't even get into it without risking a ban.

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independentbystander 1 point ago +1 / -0

^ This! ^

Prenuptial agreements are your friend. If she refuses to sign, there is a reason (ie she is planning the bleak future you are trying to prevent.)

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wharfthrowaway 2 points ago +2 / -0

They throw out a good portion of prenups in court

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independentbystander 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, that's why I didn't push it.

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Rooster-J-Cogburn 17 points ago +17 / -0

It's not that is was revealed, it is conditioning.

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AHonkTooFar 11 points ago +11 / -0

There was no reveal, just nonstop brainwashing. The west didn't get to where it was by half the population hating the other half, it's a good way to turn to shit however. No society can be good a place to live with such a giant rift, it's totally untenable.

Even liberal men don't want kids, though that's paranoia over climate and other fearmongering.

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TheImpossible1 2 points ago +3 / -1

I won't ever forgive them, I'm sure a lot of other men feel the same.

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AHonkTooFar 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't doubt that and I'm certainly not going to downplay the injustice of it, but going forward long term it's not sustainable for half of society to hate the other half.

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18-to-life 10 points ago +11 / -1

We’ll you’re both right

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Junionthepipeline 4 points ago +4 / -0

And that guarantee of a divorce fucking

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Ep1ctetus 4 points ago +4 / -0

Divorce *rape

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MAGA1775 17 points ago +19 / -2

They also destroyed wages/salaries (along with globalism) for men

A man used to be able to support an entire family on one income.

Now it takes dual-income households to do that these days, where the man and woman both have to work.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 6 points ago +7 / -1

Eat like a Mexican and work OT, it aint hard to raise a family on one income. Eggs, beans, chicken hind quarters, bucket of lard, corn flour.

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Dennislearsysbastard 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's the old southern diet.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 3 points ago +3 / -0

yep.

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KillAllPedophiles 1 point ago +1 / -0

The diabeetus diet

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Basedlonerr 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good luck finding a woman who agrees

And why the fuck should you live like a Mexican peasant while enriching some boomer or soy cuck

Cuck mindset just let society turn violent

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MarcusAurelius 5 points ago +5 / -0

Honestly, I think zero birth rates are what's going to kill this bullshit in the long run.

The only ones to survive will be those who's ingrained culture rejects the woke bullshit. They go on to have kids who also reject the bullshit.

I've seen projections where in 2100, the vast majority of North America are going to be split among the Mormons and Amish. Everyone other cultural and racial group will largely die out.

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2flathat 10 points ago +11 / -1

Traditional Catholics are having babies. If your church ain't crying then it's dying. Francis is not the Pope.

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TheImpossible1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Francis told people to have kids, so can we stop pretending it's at all counter culture to throw your life away?

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2flathat 1 point ago +1 / -0

He said "don't breed like rabbits". I don't understand your comment "throw your life away"?

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TheImpossible1 1 point ago +1 / -0

He said that people who don't have children are selfish.

I think people who have little boys supplied for their sexual pleasure by their feminist masters are selfish.

Building anything with a woman is throwing your life away. She'll take it all from you in a heartbeat.

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Basedlonerr 1 point ago +1 / -0

Traditional Catholics? You see those numbers go down ever year right ? Birth rate are plummeting and a handful of rich kids isn’t going to change it

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2flathat 1 point ago +1 / -0

A family with more than 2 kids is making sacrifices. How are they rich kids?

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Basedlonerr 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s mostly that young women make more than young men …and then they only want to date a man who makes more than they do

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DJTrump 13 points ago +13 / -0

Problem is so many people think being a "real man" is akin to being a prick, as well as selfish. "A real man takes what he wants " There's truth in going out and achieving for yourself what you want, but what makes a real man is honor, integrity, truthfulness, helping those weaker than you, and doing the right thing every time(not some of or most of the time. Every time. Because you understand the potential consequences if you don't) and doing so regardless of any possible consequences. And if you do mess up, take your licks standing and move forward.

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EricCiaramellaSuxDix 3 points ago +4 / -1

"Grab em by the pussy."

Such a perfect quote for them to purposely get wrong to so easily convey the stark difference in perspective between both sides.

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Basedlonerr 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump simps for Melania NFTs, Ivanka for office, Kim Kardashian, Kodak Black….

Trump is a simp cuck who is just as guilty as as any boomer

Young women have been put on a pedestal- unobtainable for the average young man.

Young men shouldnt support trump.

Wait let me guess…I’m an iincel for saying the truth.

“mY DaUgHtErS caN HaVe sex WiTH the whole BiG Ten FooTBaLl Team” “she’s so sweet”

All while getting free scholarships that your sons aren’t eligible for

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GrayManNumber333 13 points ago +17 / -4

Well the village did a decent job for a while. Now the village idiots and demons are in charge.

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GrimmJack 13 points ago +15 / -2

When you get down to it it's Millionaires in their 70's, 80's, and even 90's not wanting to give up an ounce of power screwing everything up. Covid kills them most so they want to make you mask and vax up. Boomers... Real Boomers are the first Generation to hang around and feed off multiple generations after theirs should have passed on. Our Great Grandkids will be paying for what Boomers have done.

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AOCDickPics 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yep. Boomers are the first generation to not leave anything to their kids and had the highest divorce rates.

Something like 75% have no intentional to leaving anything. That's without even touching social security or any policies.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 6 points ago +7 / -1

I am technically too old to be a boomer. Very squarely a millionaire.

My kids are too

I am not the problem. The government stifling entrepreneurship is. Entrepreneurship is the basis of how to become truly wealthy. But you just cant start a business now.

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Basedlonerr 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lol no your grandkids (sons) are depressed and probably addicted to substances.

Your granddaughters are on only fans, already “own” a house, and are traveling the world

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leakmouth [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

No I don’t believe you’re selfish at all. I think our society has been conditioned to prefer and seek out virtual relationships which makes people appear selfish because their only physical interactions are with a cell phone. And it’s not just young people. It’s people of all ages now. Most people you meet online now whether it’s through dating sites or social media don’t actually want to meet and have a real relationship. They’re just seeking attention, wanting to gain followers or get a “like” or an upvote. I’m guilty too. Most dudes these days prefer to stare and jack off to porn for hours rather than seek a real woman to have sex with. Takes too much effort. And then you see their flaws. But I’m rambling...

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EagleOverTriumph 50 points ago +50 / -0

People at 29 today: "I can't have a baby, it'll ruin my social life!"

Also people at 29 today: staring at cell phone most waking hours of the day, which they can do anywhere, at any time, usually while at home.

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BadManOrange 21 points ago +21 / -0

I'm in my mid 30s, so many of my childhood friends are either still single or married and childless, it's crazy.

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mnguy12000 15 points ago +16 / -1

Or I can't afford a kid. I know a few 30ish couples like this.

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ImportantPerson 19 points ago +20 / -1

If some redneck hick living out of a trailer can support kids, then how the fuck can't these kids do it? Oh wait, I know the answer.... the redneck hick works.

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mnguy12000 20 points ago +20 / -0

I shit you not one couple lives in a 350k house has a beamer, boat and designer everything. They are so fucking house poor that they cant afford it. They do have those stupid labadoddles designer dogs, I guess that's their kid

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KekistanPM 9 points ago +9 / -0

Excuse me, but they preferred to be called "fur babies."

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hoppy-kangaroos 15 points ago +16 / -1

The red neck hick doesn't blow every cent he has on vanity.

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I_trigger_faggots 9 points ago +10 / -1

This is the correct answer. How much you spend is as important if not more so than how much you earn.

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JMaN 1 point ago +1 / -0

I felt rich as a pizza delivery man.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points ago +5 / -3

The redneck hick is on Obamacare, food stamps etc.

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Junionthepipeline 5 points ago +6 / -1

Hard to find that.you are confusing them with hoodrats

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Basedlonerr 1 point ago +1 / -0

The “red neck” kids around me all had rich families

$100 carhart- check Family cabin/boats - check Expensive guns - check Expensive tattoos- check Expensive trucks- check

Fuck them too

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don_suplex_hilary 1 point ago +1 / -0

The red neck hick doesn't lease a Mercedes, watch Netflix, or order uber eats.

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AHonkTooFar 6 points ago +6 / -0

In my experience the bigger problem has been more, many city leftists are deathly afraid of climate, economy, etc. etc., covid, expenses (they are diehard consoomers and very risk averse), 'racism', 'sexism', 'misogyny', they never stop with their fear, so they are paralyzed into not having kids.

With my family and neighbors the priority is always family above expenses and well, they are usually optimistic people - unlike many leftists. They don't sweat the details and feel hard work and sacrifice will see them through. The biggest fear is mass import of people that hate America but they don't spend their lives letting fear consume them, it's a voting issue but not something they are in a deathly panic over (contrast libs to their various mass honkler 'emergencies').

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ImportantPerson 0 points ago +1 / -1

Wow, you are a little bitch. Go cry your little bitch stories somewhere else.

Yeah, the guy living in a fucking trailer park is some rich person.

No, they weren't a little bitch crying about working at little ceasars.

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Basedlonerr 1 point ago +1 / -0

Kill yourself

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Basedlonerr 1 point ago +1 / -0

Back on daddy’s yacht you go

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shutyourcommiemouth 1 point ago +5 / -4

The redneck hick is on Obamacare, food stamps etc. they’re no different than blacks. Trust me.

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2008RonPaul2012 16 points ago +16 / -0

I'm married with 3 kids now. I couldn't afford any of them if I'm being realistic. Yet somehow we've made it work. Planning to have a fourth in the next year.

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Dennislearsysbastard 5 points ago +5 / -0

Planning lol. They are all happy surprises.

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AllGunsNoCope 9 points ago +9 / -0

No one in first world countries can ever afford kids, and everyone in third world countries can always afford kids.

The difference is that in first world countries, people value material goods more than children, so they buy as many things as they can afford, and leave nothing for kids. If they get a raise they'd rather buy a boat than have another kid.

In third world countries, kids are their first priority, they pop out several children and then afford whatever material goods they can afterwards.

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AndroidProsthesis 1 point ago +1 / -0

I know I can't. My fiance and I are 32, chronically ill, and I'm disabled, so I typically help around the home and help her overachieve in her work by helping her get things done. Trying to take care of myself is a full-time job and costs so much money that we don't have any savings. After bills, taxes, and living expenses, we have to use a credit card to make it to the next paycheck. We've never used it for more than a buffer between paydays, at least. We can't always afford a car, and I don't even have my license, so sometimes our lease ends and we have to figure out how we are going to survive in a suburb without a car. Our rent increases year after year and mortgages in walking distance to food and work cost too much to have any hope of jumping into. Our apartment is baren and we don't own any furniture. Our mattress is on the floor and the box it came in is our table. I don't own a cell phone and have to use Google Voice and a hacked kindle to make calls over random neighbors' unlocked wifi. All we can do is survive and try to outlast the collapse. Rent will be raising again this fall, and our taxes were just raised too. I'm struggling to physically perform at the level needed to keep our heads above water. Our families being nearby and offering us food from time to time has literally kept us from going homeless.

The only way we could have children is if we put each one up for adoption.

I miss Trump. His 2020 tax plan was to end all Federal Income Taxes for people making under $100,000 per year. (A continuation in perpetuity of his lockdown and pandemic policy)

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bg4u 16 points ago +17 / -1

This is a theory that I have no data for, but I think the anti-teen-pregnancy propaganda was extremely ill-conceived and really fucked over a lot of young women.

Imagine being told constantly growing up that having a child will destroy your life, destroy your body, and basically ruin everything. Is that brainwashing just supposed to go away once you are an adult? I don't think it does, and it's conflicting with natural biological forces and making people crazy and miserable as a result.

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EagleOverTriumph 17 points ago +17 / -0

Also the propaganda that if you have children the world is going to die. They want everyone to have sex with everyone they meet, but they don't want them to be responsible by having children with their wife/husband and actually raising their kids.

Like really? Having 1-2 Children (the average for the US) is going to be more of a "strain" on the planet than the person in fuck off third world country with 10 or more kids? Oh who am I kidding, these are the same people who think that all their elite morons who have several private jets and yachts aren't polluting the planet when they go around using those and are exempt from "carbon taxes" but how dare you heat your house in the winter!

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LizardKingx001 5 points ago +5 / -0

I think this is really accurate

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EricCiaramellaSuxDix 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe some, but I doubt it's having that big of an impact. I'd imagine only the responsible ones would even heed that kind of advice.

Both my wife and I were taught about young unwanted pregnancies from an early age, so much so that we were very discouraged from dating until college. Despite that, I'd say we turned out forming a very normal family. Maybe we're just rational people, but a healthy fear of a bad choice can steer you towards making the right ones. But I also suppose we were being taught these lessons by our parents or through the mistakes of others close to us, rather than getting some warped lesson from TV.

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EricCiaramellaSuxDix 2 points ago +2 / -0

What are you doing next Sunday?

Oh I don't know yet. Nothing probably. Ask me closer to then.

Saturday: hey you still available to hang tomorrow?

Yeah but I'm just so wiped out from work still. I need to decompress. (spends hours alone on video games or cell phone)

That's the current generation of young adults in a nutshell. For at least the last 6 years or more.

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Dratchev 38 points ago +38 / -0

Well, have you seen American women lately? between land whales and leftards ain't a whole lot of females to really choose from.

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TheImpossible1 22 points ago +23 / -1

Don't forget the true psychos who hide it until you're with them.

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memechallenger33 14 points ago +14 / -0

Those people you can tell by meeting their friends and family. If you start to get very bad vibes, time to break up. Sure, not everyone has an amazing family. But the friends are the family you choose. And you must choose wisely.

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Dennislearsysbastard 2 points ago +3 / -1

Not having friends is a big flag I missed.

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Dratchev 6 points ago +6 / -0

I got a feeling the psychos get a pass from me due to the fact they fall in the land whale or libtard category.

I also pass on single moms as well.

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Klown_Schwab 13 points ago +15 / -2

70% of American adults are overweight.

That means 70% of American women are fat slobs.

The remaining 30%... a good chunk have inflated egos and unrealistic expectations or they've been brainwashed by feminism into simultaneously thinking men are oppressing them but it's empowering to have casual sex with random men.

Oh and even a lot of the so-called non-feminists think it's normal to spend their teens and twenties sleeping around and don't start looking for a husband until their 30's when their looks and fertility and rapidly going downhill.

Are there still "good women" around? Probably.

Does spending my time looking for the strands of hay in the needle stack have a good risk-reward ratio or a reasonable probability of success? idk.

t. early 30's guy who's had a few girlfriends that didn't work out for one reason or another and has pretty much checked out of the dating market

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Vox_Dobad 8 points ago +9 / -1

Mid 30s guy. You essentially just described me and my perspective. I'd just add that a significant percentage of both your 70% and 30% are also single mothers. Going into a relationship knowing I'll always be second (or 3rd, 4th, or 5th) fiddle is of no interest to me.

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Klown_Schwab 2 points ago +2 / -0

lol I forgot about that.

sucks for them. not my problem.

Most just see you as a meal ticket anyway and will treat you as such.

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JMaN 2 points ago +3 / -1

Don't ever commit suicide. And for the record, I was in an argument today and suicide crossed my mind.

No one truly knows what you're thinking or who you are based on your outward appearance or even if they know you quite well... Except for God... I say this because we often come to conclusions based upon evidence that we see when we don't have all of the evidence.

This can cause us to devalue ourselves falsely and reach false conclusions about ourselves, others, and the world around us.

A lot of what people are saying in this thread is true, to a certain extent... However, a lot of it is due to manipulation, propaganda over many years, lies, and deception. And everyone who is here has a desire to fight all of the lies and deception.

If you can step back and understand the dynamics at play, you can become empowered and you can see things much more clearly. You can gain a great deal of confidence from seeing the truth... Even if it is an "uncomfortable truth"... It takes a lot of strength to stare it down. And you have that.

Yes, suicide is an option. But it is a reaction to the deceptions.

I can tell you with 100% confidence that from simply reading a few short sentences that you have written above, that you are highly, highly miscalculating your worth and your value. You do matter. Much, much more than you know. You are someone that another person would be truly blessed to know. And that is the truth. Please, please never give up, never give into the lies, and I won't either.

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Basedlonerr 1 point ago +2 / -1

God apparently told my parents to chop off part of my dick as a helpless infant so no thanks

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JMaN 1 point ago +1 / -0

You talking about circumcision?

How do you know that God was not protecting you? How do you know that you are not falsely applying your insecurities to something that God commanded and your parents did? So you are falsely upset at God... When really your issue is somewhere else?

Even if what you say and feel is accurate... How do you reconcile your feelings with Jesus Christ?

If Jesus Christ is God in the flesh... And He willingly laid down His life on the cross...

Do you not think that He has suffered far greater than you for God's will?

I'm laying this all out for you in light of your comment... Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, literally died for you. He never complained about something that happened to Him as a baby... And there was literally a lot going on trying to kill Jesus Christ as a baby... He is a Man so mighty that He never sinned in His entire life.

I am going to sincerely ask you to message me if you ever have any questions. I am not asking you as if I am "good person" or anything like that. I am asking you because you could help me by messaging me. You could help because I will answer you and also fight to live a more upright life myself.

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Basedlonerr 2 points ago +2 / -0

None of what you said justifies mutilating a helpless infant.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 5 points ago +5 / -0

The biggest problem I have seen with Chinese women is that it seems at least half of them put China over the US. besides that they generally seem fine.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 4 points ago +4 / -0

We need a second taiping heavenly kingdom

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DiscoverAFire 3 points ago +3 / -0

If they're still citizens I agree, but the ones who jumped through all the hoops to fully emigrate did it because they hate The Party

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 4 points ago +4 / -0

No, a lot do that to have access to the NYSE.

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Titus45 1 point ago +1 / -0

Pick one you think is halfway decent then you roll the dice if you get fucked with crushing child support.

So many factors that play into this.

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Basedlonerr -1 points ago +1 / -2

Just stop being an incel and work harder bro just Vote harder bro….

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Joeshmoe91 31 points ago +32 / -1

I just turned 30 and this shit hit real hard. Men with nothing to lose are those who are most dangerous

Let’s just hope there’s enough men left in this country to make that hold true

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Basedlonerr 3 points ago +3 / -0

30 with nothing to lose

I want more acceleration I’m bored

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Trader_Of_Spice 27 points ago +27 / -0

I’m going to be real with you for a moment:

I’m a man in my early 30s and never had a girlfriend or been on an actual date in my life. I’m not proud of that at all, mind you. As a kid, I was socially awkward and didn’t really have friends to play with. I gradually improved on my awkwardness but I was just inherently not good at making and keeping friends, let alone finding dates. Being a critical thinker in a blue shithole state full of smooth-brains (MA) definitely didn’t help. What few friends I had I lost to Trump Derangement Syndrome and the “Scamdemic” and other than my immediate family members, I really don’t have anyone else in my life right now and it’s incredibly demoralizing. On a personal level, it hurts. One of my dreams is to have a family, but for someone like me, it feels impossible considering my circumstances. I don’t even know where to look here.

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ZhouXiden 16 points ago +17 / -1

This is all coming from a happily married mid-20s guy with kids...

Theres a common fallacy that the secret to wifing up is playing the dating game just right or getting lucky.

No, it's all about confidence (which women subconsciously notice) and being the kind of person you want to be with. So, it might seem like a circuitous route, but it's actually the quickest and surest: it's all about self improvement. Work on yourself until you are proud of who you are and confident (not cocky) in your own skin. After that, just focus on repeated exposure (you're not confident if you can't handle rejection) and you'll find a match in no time.

I find it easy to get over rejection when you focus on the end goal, which is not sex or even "a wife" but an entire life together. When you remember that, you're a little grateful that wasn't meant to be isn't.

Good luck!

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don_suplex_hilary 3 points ago +3 / -0

Beautiful. I appreciate the comment.

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leakmouth [S] 10 points ago +13 / -3

Really appreciate your honesty. If I were you I would hit a couple of the dating sites. Try bumble. Just make a quick generic profile. You don’t even have to pay. The women make the first move. And don’t be so picky. Go out with a few chicks even if they’re not that hot. Just for practice. I did that when I was back on the dating scene and I was so terrified the first time I met someone in person but then it got a lot easier. And I know exactly what you mean. We’ve all been there brother . It’s really hard these days. And when I was 30 I was on the emotional level of about a 12-year-old.

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DiscoverAFire 6 points ago +7 / -1

+1, get on bumble or okc and go on a few dates, even if they're not your type, for practice.

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kt524 1 point ago +1 / -0

The whole point of bumble was that women actually had to put themselves out there to make the first move instead of sitting on their ass.

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kt524 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think any woman on a dating app is likely highly promiscuous and brainwashed into thinking her petri dish pussy is a prize for people (I'm on a fucking roll with alliterations this week). Just that bumble at least made them have to put in a mild amount of effort for what they want so they were less likely used up.

In real life however it still has the issue of women pretty much constantly receiving validation and attention so any move a guy makes has already been made by God knows how many others already, so it just feels pathetic to do at that point and not particularly masculine.

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fac1 5 points ago +6 / -1

Bumble was founded by feminists for feminists.

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Junionthepipeline -1 points ago +3 / -4

That dudes a mess and need whatever help he can get.

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JMaN 3 points ago +3 / -0

He's probably a totally decent dude and above all the bs. That can actually work against people.

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fac1 1 point ago +1 / -0

PoF is a decent option - if you have low standards, or are seen as very attractive to women.

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mattrona 6 points ago +6 / -0

Just want you to know you're not alone. I'm in a similar situation living in a blue city. It's been rough seeing my seemingly-sane friends morph into Covidians or contract TDS. At this point I've given up on the area and am looking to move.

Would it be feasible for you to relocate? It would probably make it easier to meet quality people.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 4 points ago +4 / -0

I met my wife because I was guessing whether or not her tits were fake with my Navy buddies.

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Maga_hawkeye 1 point ago +1 / -0

And what was the answer?

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Real

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CentralAmericanPede 3 points ago +3 / -0

Are you sure youre not me? 🤣 Thats my life down to a T. Same age and everything. My best friend is my brother who has serious health issues. He got a heart transplant a few months ago, and lets just say life is harder for him now that hes immunocompromised. I worry about him all the time, in addition to all the other issues I have going on in my life.

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AmericanJawa 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm self employed running an e waste refurbishing operation.

Doing better than most people your age.

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kt524 1 point ago +1 / -0

Better than me, and we're both better than those pulling a $100k student loan then bitching about capitalism while they ruin their bodies and souls.

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Basedlonerr 0 points ago +1 / -1

Unboxing cjarizards has “rich kid” written all over it…yawn

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FromECtoUSA 1 point ago +1 / -0

Opening $3 packs is what rich people do? lol

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ImmuneResponse 17 points ago +17 / -0

Nah, fuck that.

Me at current age:

I don't give a fuck what the government "allows" me to do. Free men don't ask.

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AHonkTooFar 3 points ago +3 / -0

Accurate username.

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Anon89 2 points ago +2 / -0

True life. I’ve got to the point they can take that shit to trial. Like the song. Hahaha

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ImpeachImpaired 16 points ago +16 / -0

Dont dismiss the power of contraception on the family structure

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KonyHawk_ProSlaver 11 points ago +11 / -0

That was the first domino

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KonyHawk_ProSlaver 14 points ago +14 / -0

Man, I'm lonely.

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jimmajamma 14 points ago +14 / -0

The common denominator for all the odd movements is white depopulation.

We are liberty minded and they're hell bent on eliminating us, if not in the short term then the long term.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 4 points ago +4 / -0

Donald Trump was more popular in 2020 than in 2016 by every demographic but white people

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jimmajamma 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good point, but I think self-hate is part of that problem. IMO that is also due to similar propaganda campaigns for example "white privilege", "whiteness", "dear white people", "apologizing for being white", "kissing feet", and hardly any white men or couples in advertising anymore. You'd think we were a tiny minority of the population. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

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Dictator_Bob 12 points ago +13 / -1

My grandmother waited for my grandfather as he fought in foxholes. Today, a Marxist revolutionary group declares itself the champion of black Americans while openly calling for the disruption of family structures.

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InfiniteYest 12 points ago +12 / -0

Gen z. 23, already feel really hopeless about my future with respect to kids

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mnguy12000 8 points ago +11 / -3

Find a good church that offers traditional values, biblical based, messages. The nondenominational churches tend to trend towards younger folks.

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bg4u 10 points ago +11 / -1

I like the sentiment, but its not accurate in my experience. Every church I've been to is something like 20% octogenarians, 50% boomers/genx, and the rest are married couples or kids. And the kids are like 10:1 nonwhite. Really depressing.

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mikejones 1 point ago +1 / -0

And depending on the church the single ladies are single for a reason. Hardcore Bible thumpers.

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InfiniteYest 4 points ago +4 / -0

I haven’t believed in god in a long time. Not sure where to start finding that sense of conviction/belief again

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WolfgangArmageddon7 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hey if you're looking for answers, the sermons on ltw.org are a great resource. Michael Youssef is an incredibly kind and insightful pastor. I was having a really difficult time spiritually last week with feeling hopeless when I decided to check it out and it helps me tremendously.

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InfiniteYest 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’ll check it out, thank you

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DiscoverAFire 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gotta wait till your 30s, then it became my biggest fear

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24601 10 points ago +10 / -0

My parents at age 29...

"We only have 5 kids. Let's have some more!"

and they did.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah, I think that was #4 for me

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AlinskianAntiLeftist 10 points ago +10 / -0

Buying a minivan, for a future of 6 kids...

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AmericanJawa 2 points ago +2 / -0

Have you considered getting a non-miniature van?

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Geyck 9 points ago +9 / -0

More like "Let's have yet another baby."

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, at that age I think it was #4

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JetJocky 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's ALL part of the left wing commie plan to destabalize America. Religion, the family unit, education, election fraud, bogus prosecution of their political opponents, non prosecution of left wing violent criminals, government propoganda (Russia Russia, CRT, etc) and the list goes on. ALL of these things and more are part of their plan to destabalize and force the people to be dependent on a central authority.

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FuckingWiseCracker 4 points ago +4 / -0

Man, did you ever nail it. It is "the common denominator." I need to make sure my kids are prepared. It all just became so clear in the way you stated it, so very clearly. Stay safe & well, fren.

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JetJocky 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks, I'm glad I was able to clearly communicate this to you and that you can see it. The same tactics to destabilize society have been used by totalitarian movements throughout history to gain power.

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AsaNisiMAGA 8 points ago +8 / -0

At 29 your parents weren't planning their first baby, they were wondering if they should have another baby yet.

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journalist 8 points ago +8 / -0

Fun Fact - COVID 19 didn’t stop a single illegal alien female from getting knocked up and popping out a spawn as soon as they crossed over the border…

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linden687 7 points ago +7 / -0

All while they import foreigners by the millions to replace you.

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ZhouXiden 6 points ago +7 / -1

I know some people are not lucky enough to get this lesson young, but it's simply true: life is what you make it.

That's true in good times and under tyranny, and no one has ever had better access to information which includes all things self improvement. If you are 29 and wifeless and childless, I dont feel bad for you. Put down the vape, weed, video games, and booze and make yourself someone that someone else would be proud to call husband or father. Or don't. It's your choice.

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Lowersidecustoms 6 points ago +6 / -0

Meanwhile illegal immigrant reproduction is through the roof. It’s by design, give a 3rd world shit stain a nice comfy life at the expense of the taxpayer and they’ll vote you in every time. Blows my mind how a lot of these normies haven’t figured it out yet. If your choice is vote dem and get free shit, or Republican and you’ll get deported it’s not hard to figure out

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BulletsForTeethORG 6 points ago +7 / -1

After my X had three abortions behind my back and I didn't find out until after we separated... I was done with Women after that.

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lurkwellmyfriends 6 points ago +6 / -0

100% by design. Never underestimate evil. It never sleeps.

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Tayzen 5 points ago +5 / -0

Mid 20s here. High school sweetie became a coke head so I cut her loose. Had a few meaningless flings since but it does seem very hard to build a real connection that leads to a stable future now.

Now I just focus on work, my motorbike and car, chilling with the boys fishing and hunting etc. Life actually seems easier for me, but I'm content with my life. No social media where I need constant validation for who I am. Modern women and men who rely on that are in for a rough future lol

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durhap 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hell, I was cranking out #5 at 29.

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IvIA6A 4 points ago +4 / -0

Chili's for some baby back bugs.

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ragnarokrobo 4 points ago +5 / -1

Not a chad if you're worried about government letting you do anything.

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Jacurutu99 3 points ago +3 / -0

I will find happiness in wherever I am in life. But the cubicle careers don't do so well when me and many others opt out of the world they have created. They need me there at that desk, with a framed family picture to remind me of why I have to be there, and the upper management knows that I can't quit because I have kids, a house, a car to pay for. Once you and I are out of that they NEVER get us back. So they really shouldn't be celebrating their engineering of human misery. They have lost and lost big by going ALL IN and it is irreversible.

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WhiteLash 2 points ago +2 / -0

Great point! I opted out of the cubicle career game to chase my dreams because I didn’t have kids, a wife, a home (apartment lease was up), so I had the flexibility to leave. Am I an incel now for living with my mom to pursue a greater (and more free) future for myself? Maybe. But it’s only temporary.

I feel I made the best choice. I’m sacrificing marriage and kids (for now) to achieve something greater and reduce future misery in my career. Maybe I’ll never be married or have a kid but I won’t be a slave to the corporate world with enough hard work.

I’ve seen 2 divorces from cheating from friends in my late 20’s. Hell one just got married the 2nd time. Given the circumstances of the world I’ve gone quite incognito, but have found much more fulfillment than I ever did chasing what was expected of me (working for a big corporation, having a girlfriend, etc).

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Verrerogo 3 points ago +3 / -0

As OP is on the other side of the problem, and knows the way, and has done the job, and acquired insight into the whole thing, maybe he can get a matchmaking service going. Possibly with a friend or two. Background checks, all of it.

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680-EVIL 3 points ago +4 / -1

Here's a simple fact: if you want the West, America and White people to survive, have as many kids as possible.

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bg4u 0 points ago +2 / -2

Necessary, but not sufficient. That's like trying to bail out the Titanic and saying more passengers need to help. The holes must be patched for this to work.

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im_out 3 points ago +3 / -0

I’ll be married by the end of the year and I can’t wait to have kids

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Titus45 2 points ago +2 / -0
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ThorsonTT 3 points ago +3 / -0

I hope my government will let me buy groceries today....

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Lol_Garrus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Im 32. I married my wife at 21 (she was twenty) and we had our child at age 21. Our second at 24.

They are healthy and incredibly smart. We have a nice 5-bed house with a big yard.

My house is also a safe house for Patriits who are at war with the deep state

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JuliusEvola 2 points ago +3 / -1

Average Joe: That’s sad. Anywho. What’s on Netflix?

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VoteRepublicanAgain 2 points ago +2 / -0

I totally feel you with the preferring virtual artificial relationships thing. Sadly I've done that crap & got extremely lonely & wanted to meet people online but all it has given me is extreme depression & loneliness. I should have expected that.

Now I'm almost 25 & my life is a mess. I don't even do normal things everyone else does & am extremely unprepared for adult life.

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leakmouth [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bro I’m almost twice your age and I still don’t know how to adult. Nobody ever really gets their shit together. Everybody’s winging it. Some people just appear to have it together more than others. I was strung out on drugs, hit bottom in my mid 30’s, had to grow up in public all over again. I’m still a mess and fuck up daily. Time is on your side

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VoteRepublicanAgain 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm very sorry to hear about that with you, that's terrible. I hope you're a lot better now. Hopefully I'm on the right path in my life now & will stop doing nothing so much.

I guess I need to take a step back & realize that I still have a great life even though I'm constantly negative all the time. I need to appreciate what I have more & realize I'm living nowhere near as bad of a life as some other people are (not bragging, I do genuinely feel bad for those people)

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leakmouth [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah man I’m great. Sober. Started a family mid 30’s. I have 2 beautiful daughters. But it took a long time. I totally pissed away my 20’s. Also see a shrink if you need to. I still take a pill and it helps me tremendously

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VoteRepublicanAgain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wow that's awesome, great job. And wow that's great you have a nice family too. I want to be a father some day (& eventually a grandfather) but I'm almost 25 now & can't even imagine me doing that any time soon cause of how my life is & how I am now. If I became a dad tomorrow somehow then I would be a total mess (but I'm still a virgin so that's impossible. Haven't even kissed yet sadly).

What do you wish you did in your twenties then? I'm halfway through already pissing them away which is unbelievable. Bad things happened to me when I was in high school & I still can't get over it. It ruined my life. Now I'm super unprepared for everything & have lots of problems that seem impossible to work through.

Also, what's a shrink? A doctor? I had one for depression & anxiety but that was when my life was really bad & it was horrible & didn't even help I think.

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Basedlonerr 2 points ago +2 / -0

As a 30 year old man I’ve given up on life. No more carrots on a stick. No more just work harder memes. No more JuSt BuY CrYpTo with money I don’t have.

Not voting to preserve boomer assets and their offsprings inheritance either

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RumDrummer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can't go to chili's around here even. Parking lot looks empty, walk in and there's at least an hour wait. Haven't had chili's in over 2 years now.

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WhiteLash 2 points ago +2 / -0

Worker shortages made my recent trip “bar seating only”. There are worker shortages everywhere and honestly I can’t blame people for not being interested. You earn shit and have to wear a mask all day and deal with shitty people.

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WeaponEx 2 points ago +6 / -4

Why the overdramatized bullshit? Last I checked everyone is free to go where they want. Doomers need to GTFO.

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ghost_of_aswartz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Listen, you're both right. OP and you. It depends on where you go

In the city, OP is 1000% correct

In the rural and more red states, smaller towns, you're right.

They are treating us different based on sociopolitical demographics

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GrayManNumber333 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why is the second dude look like Mr based with a cuck sentiment?

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Ep1ctetus 2 points ago +2 / -0

I see dozens of reason for the catastrophe we all see unfolding.

I’d say each is valid. Let’s say each caused 1% of the damaging effect. It doesn’t take much of a % drop to tip things into a downward spiral.

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Redpillhope 1 point ago +1 / -0

Such a brave new world.

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UnidentifiedWhiteMan 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was expecting the 2nd frame to be the "another chapter in revelations is happening"

Thanks for the surprise.

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JZSquared 1 point ago +2 / -1

Marxism has turned our daughters into retarded whores.

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