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Farage_massage 135 points ago +139 / -4

For everything shit they do, the EU does get it right versus certain corporations every now and then…

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Al_Swearengen 67 points ago +76 / -9

Probably because, for better or worse and in many ways, they're real liberals in the traditional sense. Not the fake ass neocons in disguise that our American democratic party is comprised of.

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Toohershat 36 points ago +38 / -2

Many of them are real classical liberals and they use their big overbearing bureaucratic systems to sometimes listen to the people. Unfortunately, this is not available for everyone. If you stray out of the politically correct sphere then your voice in the EU gov mechanisms may be silenced immediately.

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Spicemustfiow 22 points ago +25 / -3

Lol. This is a word salad of stupid politics.

And for the record. No. The above premise about them being classical liberals is ridiculous.

Other than like Sweden this is entirely incorrect.

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Colonel_Chestbridge 27 points ago +27 / -0

Sweden is the most cucked of all EU countries. They only thing they’ve done right in the past decade has been the covid response. And that doesn’t make them classical liberals either, it just makes them not retarded on a single issue.

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Goldsteinbergsky 15 points ago +16 / -1

This. Sweden has a feminazi-controlled government that punishes its own citizens for reporting rape crimes committed by rapefugee invaders and even sends elderly pensioners to prison on "hate crime" charges for criticizing those same rapist invaders. There's nothing "classical liberal" about Swedenstan.

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Spicemustfiow 3 points ago +3 / -0

I’ll take your word.

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Martenzo 14 points ago +14 / -0

Sweden was among those pushing hardest for importing jihadis into the EU, and they silenced and censored anything negative happening in their country regarding refugees. Despite extensive video evidence (that keeps getting deleted off various video sites), the Swedish government still denies that the immigrant ghettos created by the influx of economic migrants have become no-go zones for their police and emergency services, where the only laws that get enforced are sharia laws enforced by the immigrants themselves.

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Spicemustfiow 1 point ago +1 / -0

I edited that out of the post this morning. It’s all good.

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BadManOrange 5 points ago +5 / -0

The EU in and of itself requires massive government oversight. The worst thing that could have happened in Europe was to take various sovereign nations which have been as such for centuries with their own unique languages, cultures, variations of religious beliefs (i.e., Christian denominations) and make pretend it's some sort of super United States of America. Doesn't work.

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Lurker404 1 point ago +1 / -0

The EU (as in the organization in Brussels) needs money because they cannot (yet) raise their own taxes directly from EU citizens. Fining non-EU companies is part of their budget.

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TommyJarvis 15 points ago +15 / -0

WILL Goolag truly comply with GDPR though? My guess is they will get a pass on the sly after they refuse and grease a few palms.

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CAPTAIN_TENDY_PLATE2 2 points ago +2 / -0

No. Just like they're already doing, they'll just continue to ignore these rulings.

Because of "standard usage agreements", which these companies have been hiding behind for over two decades now.

And so long as that's a valid argument in the courts (in particular US courts), they will continue to do so and nothing will change.

Well, I'll take that back. Things will change, but not for the better. The more they get away with, the bolder they get. They'll start adding in standard usage agreement clauses to things like "You agree to allow google to read through your bank account and have access to all of your passwords by using this service".

And for the fact that those things are hidden under find print on page 1837 of a 4000 page TOS agreement, nobody ever stop agreeing to these things. Even people who are cognizant of these tactics and make a point of navigating technology to where they AREN'T giving into these ridiculous TOS agreements, they often get snuck in.

They'll come out just like those COVID-19 proximity alerts on your phones did. They'll just push it onto the device or platform or whatever, and make it so you have to OPT OUT, rather than choose to opt in, and keep it as hush hush quiet as possible.

Basically, the only way you're going to avoid any of their ridiculously absurd data harvesting practices, and abuses on your privacy, is to not use any of their products, or associated products, ever, and never be around anyone who ever does.

Which as you are aware, is next to impossible.

Because think about it like this - how can I consent to google picking up my data from a conversation in the background, if I don't even own a phone or use technology whatsoever, but my neighbor had a phone in his pocket listening, that I was unaware of?

The problem comes in with these "by virtue of using our service you agree to let us do whatever the fuck we want, no matter how illegal or unconstitutional, and since you're voluntarily agreeing to it, there's nothign the govt can do" and then just making it so that virtually everyone is stuck using their service at SOME POINT, whether knowingly or not, and thus "entering into agreement" that it's okay.

People keep wanting to use the excuse of "it's a private company they can do what they want". I was warning about this shit 5+ years ago. This is where that leads.

For some reason we exempt tech giants from being accountable to this shit. But if you do it in any other industry, you'd get your ass handed to you in a lawsuit.

For example, let's say I own a shipping company that specializes in making packing material for packages. Let's say that I have some lawyer write up a legal usage agreement that says, "by using my product you agree to let me inspect your premises at any time, regardless of consent or notice".

And then, some company uses my product to ship something to you. Then, anyone who touched the package is technically "using the product", and if those type of agreements are allowed to stand, then by god I'd be allowed to come into your fucking house without notice.

But those sort of things DON'T stand. They get the rug pulled out from under them before they even start.

With technology, however, in particular, the large tech giants... It's just fucking allowed.

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BurtMcGirt 8 points ago +9 / -1

Probably an unpopular opinion here, but I feel the same way about employee rights in California. In most states, you are basically a piece of machinery (and Diversity Hire Sotomayor would agree). "Just find a new job" doesn't always work, especially when small businesses are crushed and corporate oligarchs collude with each other and with Big Government.

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covok48 6 points ago +6 / -0

CA uses this to exert power over the economy. Businesses have a regulatory noose around their necks waiting to be tightened if they don’t play ball. And this is before a dollar is made.

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Bongo_Occidental 2 points ago +2 / -0

Their privacy protections and “right to be forgotten” legislation, or something like it, is what the US needs and the fact that our government has failed to even try says a lot about who’s pulling the strings.

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sustainable_saltmine 80 points ago +80 / -0

LOL. the EU suddenly cares about citizens' privacy? they want vax passports and "anti hate speech" spyware.

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StraightWhiteCisMale 50 points ago +50 / -0

Hey, if anyone's gonna spy on our citizens, it's gonna be us!

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Xanisor 20 points ago +20 / -0

This is exactly the point. Also the only reason why the EU criticized Twitter for banning Trump.

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HuggableBear 8 points ago +8 / -0

That's literally their argument.

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covok48 4 points ago +4 / -0

This dives at the heart of the issue.

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11Bignveiny 4 points ago +4 / -0

Lol this

From a geopolitical perspective, this suit has the added benefit of helping their domestic tech industry to compete

Germany Europe is slowly trying to position itself as a major world power, against the U.S. and China

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StraightWhiteCisMale 3 points ago +3 / -0

I know this sounds far fetched but I really believe the EU will become a superstate and beat China into submission. US will just become irrelevant as communists and trannies continue to degrade and destroy our military and institutions. We’ll see... but that’s where my money is

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Weloveflyovercountry 2 points ago +2 / -0

chinese economic agents seem to own half the cafes and restaurants in some of europes biggest cities...meanwhile these european mask slaves keep supporting it with their mask purchases-obliviously of course.

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Oskar 2 points ago +2 / -0

I hate to break it to them, but US Mass Surveillance already has the data they're trying to protect

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IncredibleMrE1 13 points ago +13 / -0

"Only WE are allowed to spy on our citizens."

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FinlandForTrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

This

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CanadianFren 5 points ago +5 / -0

With all of these EU laws, they create a false sense that their government cares while they violate everyone's rights and usher in state of totalitarianism. These same people are trying to get rid of the Nuremberg Code so they can forcibly inject everyone with experimental treatments.

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saltyviewer123 5 points ago +5 / -0

EU leaders probably remember the spying revelations that hit after the snowden incident. They just don't want the US spying on them again and they know Google is the way they will likely do it.

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Lurker404 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yea, they don't give a shit about privacy. The second it gets in their way they throw it over board, e.g. vax databases or surveillance of government critics.

They just want those sweet sweet fines.

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BigMikesIke 60 points ago +60 / -0

They won’t stop. Cute court case though.

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Barack-Obama2 13 points ago +13 / -0

Correct.

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DinosOnNoahsArk 6 points ago +6 / -0

They will change and adapt

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StraightWhiteCisMale 43 points ago +45 / -2

Google should be illegal.

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MobileDev4Trump 12 points ago +13 / -1

I support this but only if we ban Apple as well.

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MobileDev4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

I just want Ballmercon back. The pro Excel scene hasn't been the same since Nadella ruined the Meta.

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covok48 6 points ago +6 / -0

They need to be 1) trust busted and 2) ban Chinese investment in the remainders.

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1080pleb -3 points ago +6 / -9

What does this even mean? The search engine? The (now) subsidiary company? The entirety of Alphabet?

C'mon, try a bit harder.

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covok48 4 points ago +4 / -0

All the above.

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Weloveflyovercountry 1 point ago +1 / -0

right, if nothing else they will just form a shell company, just like google is already a shell company of CIA

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AngryAsian 21 points ago +30 / -9

Google Analytics is literally the least dangerous thing Google does, messing with search results is worse, who cares if a free website tracks you for content optimization

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AngryAsian 9 points ago +10 / -1

A digltal marketer my guy, that's literally all you talk about in digital, literally when this site came out they were posting the analytics and it helps you know whether parts of a website are worth keeping or improving

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UncleSergeant 3 points ago +3 / -0

Its one of the best tools for small and local businesses

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glasses2020 9 points ago +11 / -2

People who have a background in IT, web development and networking. The people who build and run the internet.

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Jonathan_Snowden 2 points ago +7 / -5

Literally anyone that runs an online business you dolt

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ItDoesntDoThat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who the fuck has lexicon in their lexicon?

It's industry jargon. So the people in marketing and tech have content optimization in their lexicon and faggots with English degrees have lexicon in theirs

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ItDoesntDoThat 1 point ago +1 / -0

it's been around longer than Google. Let it go and stop being a faggot.

It's the same as fags who work on cars and jerk off about horsepower and flux capacitors and other car shit. That's why it's called jargon.

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SuperNards 1 point ago +3 / -2

Web developers and marketers say that. You couldn't take 5 seconds to look that up?

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RealRedneck 5 points ago +7 / -2

THIS. As an online marketer I rely on good analytics to chart out a path forward. My company is a greenhouse / garden center. I'm looking specifically at site search data to steer content. People searched mostly for Marigolds in May? I need more marigold content.

The real problem with GDPR is that it is data imperialism. We're a US-based company that doesn't do business in the EU, but we need to comply with this asinine law or face consequences. Umm. NO!

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HuggableBear 11 points ago +11 / -0

People searched mostly for Marigolds in May? I need more marigold content.

Hey, that's great. Know what else it shows?

People in this particular Congressional District that a Democrat won by a single point in 2020 are trending red and will probably flip it in 2022. Time to notify the DNC that they need to flood money into it since their own internal polling is showing something different.

The benign stuff is the smokescreen behind which they hide the insidious shit.

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RealRedneck 0 points ago +2 / -2

True, but there's a billion other ways to get this same data. What are the purchase trends for marigolds? Likewise, what are the purchase trends for American flags in that district?

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HuggableBear 4 points ago +4 / -0

Both of which are scooped up by Google and used for exactly the purpose I mentioned.

And in case you think I'm just speculating here, you should be aware that Eric Schmidt literally offered to build Hillary's voter database using Google's data and developers to help her beat Trump. You can find the document outlining his proposal in Podesta's emails.

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covok48 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are not entitled to users’ personal & private information to make business decisions.

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Leiloni 3 points ago +3 / -0

You don't really get personal and private information for the most part if you're running a website. You get things like how many people click on certain pages, how long they're on that page, etc. The business doesn't know who they are and is looking at the data as a whole, not at individual people.

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SuperNards 2 points ago +2 / -0

To be fair they are entitled to it if we offer it up willingly by agreeing with their terms and services by using their site.

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ciaramella_is_gay 3 points ago +3 / -0

I use GA and it's relatively harmless, there's provisions that don't allow you to collect PII anyways, sounds like this specific issue is just them sending data from Austria to the US, so I see a future where we in the states won't be able to log into a GA account for an EU site unless we use a VPN or something.

Otherwise the data is very basic for almost all of the sites out there, just what pages they visited and how long they were on the site. More robust sites track orders and interactions and if they remove GA, we'll just use logfiles for analysis.

It's like being able to follow people around who visit your store, nothing more.

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Lurker404 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ah, but you see, Google's search result manipulation is in line with EU policy. It's "the right" kind of manipulation.

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ShitPoster 17 points ago +17 / -0

but vax passports to participate in any level of society in the EU... not a problem and privacy isn't an issue when it's THEM tracking your every movement.

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thingaboutarsenal 10 points ago +10 / -0

What is going on in Europe today? First the UK and now this?

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TommyJarvis 3 points ago +3 / -0

mmhm.

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Weloveflyovercountry 1 point ago +1 / -0

genocide of white population and culture...same as here.

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Ninjavideo 9 points ago +9 / -0

Fuck google but at the same time EU wants to hold the data purse strings, as soon as they control the data flow, they’ll mimic exactly what google does

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glasses2020 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yea idk why anyone is stoked on this. This is how the commies take over the internet. It’s not hard to hide from Google. But when your business is fined because you track what your customers do with your product and it’s the entire Unellected European Union making the rules... that’s somehow better?

I can’t believe the amount of retards in support of this.

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

That’s because you are a faggot internet marketer with a lot to lose if this sets precedent.

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glasses2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

If that were true, how much do I have to lose exactly?

These regulations cause MORE work. How do I have anything to lose?

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Lurker404 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not going to happen. They're just going to fine Google every now and then for some money.

Telegram on the other hand, I can see them blocking that one. Germany is already trying to get there because people use it to organize protests against the vax mandate and Wu Flu measures.

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anton1k 8 points ago +8 / -0

I was implementing GDPR requirements by reshaping the telemetry data that our company collects. The requirement is that each user may request his data to be removed. My thoughts back then - before we had a mess, and nobody would bother to identify a user, now we have data neatly organized by user. And now, your former digital presence can be wiped off from internet within 24 hours. I.e. the only reasonable data shape you'll have afterwards would potentially allow surveillance and censorship.

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Powhattan 5 points ago +5 / -0

Don't use a google product of any sort.

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apchrkey 5 points ago +5 / -0

You can block Google analytics using uBlock Origin or pihole.

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magafren 5 points ago +5 / -0

You can't get all the data available in Google Analytics here in the US as a regular user.... but you can if you pay for Google Analytics Premium. Only costs $150,000 a year.

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Coslin 5 points ago +5 / -0

Get Fucked, Google.

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MarcusAurelius 4 points ago +4 / -0

Still need to break off GoogleAdsense from the rest of Google.

Ideally break them along the lines of Advertising, Search, Services, Hardware, and Other. And release Search under BSD which is available to the rest of the companies.

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bearflag 4 points ago +4 / -0

Sponsored by Tutanota…

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tiredofwinning2020 4 points ago +4 / -0

The EU is just upset that they are not the only ones spying on citizens.

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Gwoz8881 3 points ago +3 / -0

Week old news and it only applies to Austria for a small part of data collection. Small win. Much bigger battles to fight

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MythArcana 3 points ago +3 / -0

Impressive length.

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side_o_beef 3 points ago +3 / -0

the EU is just salty that their vibrant diverse youths are unable to start any meaningful tech companies at all

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Batman 3 points ago +3 / -0

Adobe should be nervous.

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rentfREEEE_since2016 2 points ago +2 / -0

No Matter cause eu is happy to hand over data to China

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Smashley 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m certified for google analytics and own a google premier agency. There is no way I know of to get a person’s individual information from their visit on a website. If that person filled out a form and gave me their info sure but that has nothing to do with google analytics. The data I get through analytics and webmaster tools does not drill down to address or name at all. What is claimed to have happened in this write up is beyond me. My clients beg me for this type of info and if I could provide it I’d be a rich man! But… I can’t.

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FrontTowardLeft 2 points ago +2 / -0

They'll just bypass this using the 5, 9, and 14 Eyes Alliance. In fact, I'd bet my left nad that the IC in each of these countries uses google for their raw data.

Five Eyes: US, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand

Nine Eyes: Five Eyes + Denmark, France, Holland, Norway

Fourteen Eyes: Nine Eyes + Germany, Belgium, Italy, Sweden, Spain

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Weloveflyovercountry 2 points ago +2 / -0

google is part of the 5 eyes..cia...probably china is behind this.

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orion010 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sometimes Europe makes sense

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Weloveflyovercountry 1 point ago +1 / -0

besides legally being able to drink in public-nothing else.

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Brellin 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is why I use the "advanced user" option of U-Block Origins (free ad blocker you can download, not shilling). With the advanced user settings you can have it set as default that ALL page elements that are not pre-approved by you are automatically blocked from opening or operating on a given page unless you choose to allow them through. I've seen google analytics on so many pages that seemingly have nothing to do with google it's insane, and they're all shut down. Honestly just shutting down 3rd party scripts and I-frames goes a long way towards ensuring that sort of spying shit doesn't happen when you're browsing the net, and it also dramatically reduces the odds of you getting a virus on your computer (the I-frames in particular are notorious for being virus attack vectors, but if you have it set to prevent then from even running on the page you almost completely mitigate the risk they pose).

While it does result in a little bit of a hassle early on where you're going to have to enable individual things until the pages you regularly use are displaying what you want them to display once you get familiar with how the advancer user settings of U-block works it becomes simple and intuitive to just block out everything that is non-essential to the web pages you're browsing. Google analytics, facebook, twitter, etc are on damn near everything these days and a simple free adblocker can stop the majority of them from spying on you so long as you familiarize yourself with how to use them. Again, not shilling here, use any adblocker you prefer, I'm just talking about U-block because it's the one I'm familiar with. Ultimately your data privacy is your responsibility because no one else is going to care enough to protect it, so you owe it to yourself to do what you can to mitigate risks and exposure.

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HumblePig 1 point ago +1 / -0

Seconding U-Block Origin for all the reasons this guy said. Easy enough to manage. Even comes with a visual point and clicker for removing elements.

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Filthy_MALE 2 points ago +2 / -0

What makes them think Google isn’t still collecting data through some other mean?

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kernel 2 points ago +2 / -0

but mass surveillance through mandatory QR codes is ok

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Injustice 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok can some legal savvy pede indicate what I have to do to screw over google and Facebook as I've recently went through the hoops to become an EU citizen to vote conservative in their elections and this feels like a bonus....

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EagleOverTriumph 2 points ago +2 / -0

Companies whose business models are spying on and selling user's data care not for any fraction of the words "your privacy"

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ghettometal 2 points ago +2 / -0

Dont let them fool you.. in most cases headlines like this sound like a win, but is meant to "refine" those laws or practices into something even more worse.

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HiddenDekuScrub 2 points ago +2 / -0

Excuse me while I scroll back up to the thread with the popcorn.

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NotAHandshake 2 points ago +2 / -0

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fusreedah 2 points ago +2 / -0

Holy shit, I had never heard of this guy, but he seems to be doing far more real practical stuff than most of the people we revere on this site.

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ThatLatinDude 2 points ago +2 / -0

A broken clock is right twice a day I guess.

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RicFlir 2 points ago +2 / -0

Max Schrems did not kill himself

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sentient-potato 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is huge.

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Jonathan_Snowden 1 point ago +2 / -1

I still don't understand how a European government has any control over US companies. Shouldn't they be more mad at their citizen that used the tool?

And for example, if a European visits a US site, how is that my problem that I now have their data and why can the EU now fine me for it if I don't remove it?

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

What part of foreign companies that do business in a local country or region are indeed bound by local laws do you not understand?

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Jonathan_Snowden 1 point ago +1 / -0

The part where if I don't do business in a local country and someone from that local country happens to access my site

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NZbacon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good.

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Destineed369 1 point ago +1 / -0

Every now and then the eu does stuff like this that make me go hmmm. I usually assume it’s their own tech lords trying to open the market there for eurogulag or whatever but if they can do it so can we.

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FredRedd 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was the “Anal” in “Analytics” that gave them away.

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Dictator_Bob 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am so disappointed in our government.

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_Go-f-urself2 1 point ago +2 / -1

der google can see your kidneys...aint lying

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FrogManFrog -3 points ago +2 / -5

GDPR is a winning issue