I honestly consider Trump to be center left. And I don't mean this as an insult; I just think that far right would not have supported the LGBT bullshit.
I remember when having a wall was not even controversial and was publicly supported in Congress by Obama, Hillary, etc. Then Trump said we need a wall and it suddenly became a far-right LITERALLY HITLER policy position. Bill Clinton ran on "welfare to work" and "criminal justice reform" meaning more police, more prisons, and tougher sentences. Trump is not "far right", the mainstream left has quickly become the far left and completely insane.
I remember when breathing was not even controversial and universally supported by all humans. Modernized communism is reaching clown world levels never before thought possible.
Trump is the world's most teddy-bear, unifying President. He's as centrist as they come. He has always tried to represent all Americans and be everyone's President. Leftists would adore him if the conspiratorial media didn't portray him as a villain.
It turns out that leftism is not a political position. It's a mental state of media-induced confusion and incoherence. Military-grade psychology is being used against people, and a "leftist" is someone on whom this has the desired effect.
The problem is we don't have left, moderate, right, we have marxists, 'moderate' marxists, actual moderates and right. Trump did great with the last two, leftists have been brainwashed / had their overton window totally shifted.
He can be evil and he can be corrupt. Oh and he can definitely be an asshole. That's business. But he did not have to spend some of the best years of his life doing this for us. Remember "They aren't coming after me they are coming after you. I'm just in the way.". He's our asshole.
Yea. I'm far right if Trump but appreciate him taking the public entities to task and make them rage in fury that the mask came off and they have expose themselves to those who pay attention
People who are traditionalists on the right (I guess if you want to call that "far" right) would not support a large host of what people on our side think is OK... but alas, you can't swing the pendulum back without having to cut through the middle.
Trump is the most moderate "Republican" frontrunner in over 50 years. Many people don't realize this because he's moderate on many issues that most other "Republicans" are very right on, and vice versa.
If you have not checked out Thomas Sowell’s Marxism or Mark Levin’s American Marxism, I recommend them. Sowell wrote his critique in 1988 and it’s amazing how perfectly today’s events mirror Marxist Revolutionary theory.
This is why they have gone so far left ... its to redraw the lines of left and right so that the middle ground is constantly shifting left. "We need to come together, meet us half way"
When I was younger I was considered pretty firmly on the middle left. I haven't really changed my options, if anything I have gotten a bit more liberal, and now I'm considered firmly on the right.
It's insane that some people are thinking the overton window has done anything but zoom left.
I am pro Trump. I am not necessarily right wing by traditional standards. I believe GEOTUS has been a shining light upon the governmental roaches. He is gifted with the two fundamental pillars needed to support our country right now. Balls and common sense.
Marx only support communism for industrialized areas (cities).
He said communism would fail in agrarian society. I guess rural Vermont never got the memo.
idk how people associate wanting small decentralized government being aligned with a national socialist autocracy...
They don't realize the smallest your government can be is to have no government, in other words anarchy.
The whole “right side = fascism” doesn’t even withstand the slightest bit of scrutiny for that reason.
The entirety of the left vs right spectrum used to describe US politics is wrong.
At best, the US has authoritarians and large government on the left (which includes most of both parties) and anarchists on the right, with MAGA right of center. That’s if the US even follows a linear spectrum at all.
But the notion that “large centralized authoritarian powers” is somehow “progressive” when it’s a common norm through history is flat wrong.
That the US follows a spectrum wherein denying the large central authoritarians their power is fascism isn’t just wrong, it’s an intentional lie.
I'm personally tired of people associating the right-wing with Nazis. The Nazis were a left wing, socialist organization. Just how Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians are all different denominations of Protestant Christianity, Communism and Fascism are denominations of Socialism. Left wing tends to push towards centralized power and authoritarianism, whilst right pushes towards decentralized power and anarchy.
whilst right pushes towards decentralized power and anarchy.
that's not what right wing means though. Right wing is much more about traditionalism (the original right wing was about protecting the French monarchy from the revolutionists) and the belief that we as a people have different roles to play and that we are not equal .
So what you're defining is what I consider "conservatism", which by definition is more traditionalism. I understand the context of the French Monarchy, but even by the definition of right-wing being more traditional, the Nazis would still be considered Left-wing due to their beliefs in leftist, socialist values.
I honestly consider Trump to be center left. And I don't mean this as an insult; I just think that far right would not have supported the LGBT bullshit.
He's Boomer Right, so basically a 1980's liberal, 1990's centrist, and 2000's center right.
Most of us on here are much to the right of him.
I remember when having a wall was not even controversial and was publicly supported in Congress by Obama, Hillary, etc. Then Trump said we need a wall and it suddenly became a far-right LITERALLY HITLER policy position. Bill Clinton ran on "welfare to work" and "criminal justice reform" meaning more police, more prisons, and tougher sentences. Trump is not "far right", the mainstream left has quickly become the far left and completely insane.
I can remember when we supposed to judge people by the content of their character. Only Republicans say shit like that now.
Except when libs virtue signal on MLK day.
mlk would not be a liberal
mlk was a commie
we can argue against intersectionality without having to rewrite history
The commie-libs tried that, then they all got arrested.
Soon after that is when they just started screaming RACISM.
I remember when breathing was not even controversial and universally supported by all humans. Modernized communism is reaching clown world levels never before thought possible.
Because he wasn't just saying it. He attempted to build it.
Trump is the world's most teddy-bear, unifying President. He's as centrist as they come. He has always tried to represent all Americans and be everyone's President. Leftists would adore him if the conspiratorial media didn't portray him as a villain.
It turns out that leftism is not a political position. It's a mental state of media-induced confusion and incoherence. Military-grade psychology is being used against people, and a "leftist" is someone on whom this has the desired effect.
Astute comment,
Well said.
The problem is we don't have left, moderate, right, we have marxists, 'moderate' marxists, actual moderates and right. Trump did great with the last two, leftists have been brainwashed / had their overton window totally shifted.
And yet we still support him. Why? Because he’s not an evil corrupt asshole. And that’s pretty rare
He can be evil and he can be corrupt. Oh and he can definitely be an asshole. That's business. But he did not have to spend some of the best years of his life doing this for us. Remember "They aren't coming after me they are coming after you. I'm just in the way.". He's our asshole.
im about 50 yards right of genghis khan at this point
I hope so. He allowed Islam to spread east as long as they pleged feility
Yea. I'm far right if Trump but appreciate him taking the public entities to task and make them rage in fury that the mask came off and they have expose themselves to those who pay attention
100%
People who are traditionalists on the right (I guess if you want to call that "far" right) would not support a large host of what people on our side think is OK... but alas, you can't swing the pendulum back without having to cut through the middle.
Trump is the most moderate "Republican" frontrunner in over 50 years. Many people don't realize this because he's moderate on many issues that most other "Republicans" are very right on, and vice versa.
I agree. That's part of the disconnected view of the left. Ultimately, even the center left are seen as "literally Hitler" by today's commies.
Trump is not even far right. He might not even be the considered on the right of the spectrum
He’s right where he should be. MAGA for all of us, and moderate enough to steal from the leftists. Because he was one.
True, but even leftist get thrown under the bus by the 'wokesters', which only validates your point.
Why does the left think we view them as ethical enough to count votes for literally Hitler?
Pinochet is too far left for me at this point.
Take my updoot cause I'm right there with ya. It wasn't I who radicalized me 🙃
Slides and explanations, about let and right, to educate dumb kids.
About 1/2 down the page
https://unlearningcommunism.com/lessons-of-freedom
Woke should begin on the left of Marx.
Marx was a racist and homophobe
They are actually tools to create division and class.
Marxist Revolution is dependent on class structure.
If you have not checked out Thomas Sowell’s Marxism or Mark Levin’s American Marxism, I recommend them. Sowell wrote his critique in 1988 and it’s amazing how perfectly today’s events mirror Marxist Revolutionary theory.
Goddamn commies!!!
I smarted off to a wannabe Commie today online.
Asked her why do Communists and genocide always seem to go together like peanut butter and jelly?
Need to check to see if the little wannabe Commie can refute that.
When class v class fails they use other characteristics to divide.
Can't have commies without sowing division first
Hypocrisy never bothers commies. That's why they're commies.
This is why they have gone so far left ... its to redraw the lines of left and right so that the middle ground is constantly shifting left. "We need to come together, meet us half way"
Exactly. There is no "half way" in the gulag.
Meanwhile me, an actual natsoc
Yes.
I mean, Trump is not that extreme right. He's a mixed bag of left and right positions who's conservative as an aggregate.
But yeah, I do feel like people here know where the actual center of overall public opinion is way better than lefties do.
Correct.
And all are wrong. You just need one group called the uni-party, with Trump sitting outside of it.
This.
The whole notion of left vs right and progressive vs conservative doesn’t even exist the way they tell us it does.
"Literally Hitler" cracks me up every time.
Except hitler was literally a socialist
Substitute the word "the unvaccinated" with "Jews" in any Joe Biden speech and very quickly you will realize which party has the Hitler.
Now do a Nolan Chart version.
In 4D!
When I was younger I was considered pretty firmly on the middle left. I haven't really changed my options, if anything I have gotten a bit more liberal, and now I'm considered firmly on the right.
It's insane that some people are thinking the overton window has done anything but zoom left.
The left is entropy.
I am pro Trump. I am not necessarily right wing by traditional standards. I believe GEOTUS has been a shining light upon the governmental roaches. He is gifted with the two fundamental pillars needed to support our country right now. Balls and common sense.
I actually see Trump as a pretty moderate Republican.
For once, the comment section isn't letting me down. Well done pedes. More and more are awakening.
I am probably to the right of Pinochet, but that is just me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Marx only support communism for industrialized areas (cities). He said communism would fail in agrarian society. I guess rural Vermont never got the memo.
Nearly a good meme but you're kidding yourself if you think Trump is right wing. He's closer to a 90s corporate Democrat if anything.
Hitler would make an appearance left of centre on my spectrum
Marx would be ashamed if he saw the current left. And he definitely would not even be remotely considered "woke" today.
My eyes saw political spectrum, my brain read “political scrotum”
Oh, come on, we can't all be me...
idk how people associate wanting small decentralized government being aligned with a national socialist autocracy... They don't realize the smallest your government can be is to have no government, in other words anarchy.
The whole “right side = fascism” doesn’t even withstand the slightest bit of scrutiny for that reason.
The entirety of the left vs right spectrum used to describe US politics is wrong.
At best, the US has authoritarians and large government on the left (which includes most of both parties) and anarchists on the right, with MAGA right of center. That’s if the US even follows a linear spectrum at all.
But the notion that “large centralized authoritarian powers” is somehow “progressive” when it’s a common norm through history is flat wrong.
That the US follows a spectrum wherein denying the large central authoritarians their power is fascism isn’t just wrong, it’s an intentional lie.
This is incorrect.
The last one, over Trump, should have like five Hitler faces.
I'm personally tired of people associating the right-wing with Nazis. The Nazis were a left wing, socialist organization. Just how Methodists, Baptists, and Presbyterians are all different denominations of Protestant Christianity, Communism and Fascism are denominations of Socialism. Left wing tends to push towards centralized power and authoritarianism, whilst right pushes towards decentralized power and anarchy.
that's not what right wing means though. Right wing is much more about traditionalism (the original right wing was about protecting the French monarchy from the revolutionists) and the belief that we as a people have different roles to play and that we are not equal .
False
So what you're defining is what I consider "conservatism", which by definition is more traditionalism. I understand the context of the French Monarchy, but even by the definition of right-wing being more traditional, the Nazis would still be considered Left-wing due to their beliefs in leftist, socialist values.
Nazis were against Marxism. But regardless they called themselves 3rd position
The difference between the two is the difference between a cucumber and a pickle
Trump is left of center, dingus.