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NvJohansson 99 points ago +100 / -1

Here was my dating ad 20 years ago:

Looking for woman who knows how to clean fish, cook fish and has her own boat.

Please send picture of boat.

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Dialectic 38 points ago +40 / -2

Did it work?

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Pureblood41 28 points ago +28 / -0

I'm guessing , No.

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Bigdickboi 9 points ago +9 / -0

Boats work. They were chick magnets for me

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King5150 8 points ago +8 / -0

Captain Stabbin' enters the chat

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ChelseaHubbell 2 points ago +2 / -0

Even the most rinky dink boat would get them. Had a friend with one he always tried to end the date on his boat.

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Pureblood41 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ah Nice!

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HIGH_ENERGY_MEMES 3 points ago +3 / -0

She needed a hull clean and new spark plugs but we got her on the water soon enough.

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Mathelm 4 points ago +4 / -0

"Anything you want $50"
"$50?? Okay get in."
*Drives to marina*
"Start scrubbing."

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Basedlonerr 2 points ago +2 / -0

Depends…was he Chad?

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CisSiberianOrchestra 18 points ago +19 / -1

For me it was:

"Looking for a woman with a flat head I can set my beer on and pistol grip ears."

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lenchodahated 8 points ago +8 / -0

me: “just want a woman with big tits” 😭😭

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Joes_Hippocampus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Pistol grip ears and fold-back teeth was mine.

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imnotdeadyet 3 points ago +3 / -0

You forgot Looking for a woman that is "4 feet tall" with a flat head I set my beer on.

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no_gal_friend 3 points ago +3 / -0

bad news: he found out that too many girls smell like fish.

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VolareVia 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Send bot and riging"

  • Some based Indian
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grandfather_nurgle 68 points ago +78 / -10

I’m trying not to let the Jew trick me out of a wife and kids but it isn’t easy. I had a date last weekend. Nice girl. Christian. Southern. And I’m a decent looking guy with a job and haircut. 20 minutes into the date I could just see the NPC programming take over. Didn’t mention israel or gay frogs or anything tried to be as normal and charming as possible.

But I’ll try again. It’s worth it.

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chickeninoven 47 points ago +50 / -3

Tell us that again when you find out she's a BLM and trans right supporter, because it's the "Christian" thing to do and her church supports it too.

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grandfather_nurgle 56 points ago +57 / -1

Oh yeah the word “misogyny” came up early in the conversation because some man at work is being mean so of course he hates and is threatened by women.

Hard pass.

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HorribleDeplorable 6 points ago +10 / -4

You don't try to fuck her first? May as well confirm her prejudices.

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deleted 19 points ago +19 / -0
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ConsrvspkgNJ 11 points ago +11 / -0

"Dude, never stick your dick in the crazy"- One of my NCO's in Jump School

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engineerpede147 3 points ago +3 / -0

A great life lesson. Good to live by.

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DuxBellorum [S] 36 points ago +40 / -4

As much as I agree that it's a Jewish trick, it's not a trick that's an illusion, the trick is very real. The Jews have managed to turn women into undesirable being. As a man, you're left with two choices. Accept a miserable existence enslaved to a woman who literally makes your life hell in order to pass on your genetics in hopes your children can fix the problems you failed to or don't procreate and risk your entire race ending.

Many others like yourself are trying to play the lottery and find that good woman but you can play the lottery your whole life and still lose. That money you end up wasting on the lottery could have been used to make your life better.

All the choices suck. There isn't really a good outcome for a lot of people.

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AraphelEinSof 16 points ago +18 / -2

I notice no down voters replied with why you are wrong.

I love it when they get mad.

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18-to-life 4 points ago +6 / -2

I didn’t downvote, I have better things to do… and I’m not mad either…

But I don’t think he knows what a Jew is.

Orthodox Jewish women are into family / children, an observant home, and community… exactly what most men want.

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flashersenpai 14 points ago +14 / -0

dude, jews don't have to trick women into being the way they are

they've always been that way. if anything the trick was to convince you otherwise

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DuxBellorum [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

I agree with you but some people aren't ready for this pill. The hard patriarchy is the only solution...

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ThatLatinDude -5 points ago +2 / -7

Lol white people. There is a third choice, just randomly knock women up and late nature sort it out. Time to give up on Rome and embrace your barbarian side!

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DuxBellorum [S] 6 points ago +9 / -3

This would be great if the government didn't simp for women and BC wasn't a thing. Take away child support and BC then this would be the way.

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Jeffersonian_Man 13 points ago +13 / -0

They're out there, but rare. Gotta get em in their early 20s.

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UncleTrumpsBand 2 points ago +2 / -0

This comment. Updoot!

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MythArcana 4 points ago +5 / -1

It's worth it if they pay for dinner. Then you can do what they do afterwards and mock them, ignore them, use them and lie when you are hungry again.

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IncredibleMrE1 3 points ago +3 / -0

If she mentioned anything about kekwhew or jews, that would have proven she's a glowie.

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DuxBellorum [S] 13 points ago +14 / -1

Not true, I once went on a date with a woman who brought up Jews because she was a Jew and worked at a private Jewish school as a teacher. Definitely not glowie but definitely Jewish.

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Sir_Girth 43 points ago +44 / -1

The idea of dating women in this timeline is scary enough. Stop it!

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cook_does 27 points ago +27 / -0

Some of them have dicks.

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Sir_Girth 21 points ago +22 / -1

There’s that, and the vaxx, and the insane leftist shit that’s infected so many women’s minds.

Really gives a single guy like me pause.

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cook_does 13 points ago +14 / -1

Sorry Bro, that sucks. I am thankful I met and married my wife 20 years ago while I was in highschool. We formed our worldview together and she didn't ever get woke from being lonely.

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Sir_Girth 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good for you. I’m happy for both of you. 👍🏼

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ColonelKlink 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just ask big mike.

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Behindleftlines 6 points ago +6 / -0

Why I had to stop being a man whore. I realized it was too dangerous and was going to run my life.

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Sir_Girth 4 points ago +4 / -0

Im looking for wife material now. It’s difficult. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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jonrockets 38 points ago +38 / -0

I'm 45 going through a divorce and this is depressing as fuk.

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FireannDireach 22 points ago +22 / -0

I've been saying it for a while, if it doesn't work out with the current gf, I'm going monk mode.

Godspeed, pede.

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jonrockets 13 points ago +13 / -0

Geesh, just want to grow old with someone who loves me and is sane. To much to ask I guess. Gods speed pede!

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Buck_O_Five 9 points ago +9 / -0

Buy a dog

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HIGH_ENERGY_MEMES 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hey man so sorry. This internet stranger sends you his best thoughts and happy to have a chat if you need someone to vent to.

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flashersenpai 3 points ago +3 / -0

congratulations and sorry you have to rebuild

i hope you can enjoy peace and freedom

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Goldsteinbergsky 31 points ago +34 / -3

He just described 90% of White chicks in America.

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no_gal_friend 12 points ago +12 / -0

99%+ for asian wyman. These future asian tiger mothers will push their children to go to Ivy League colleges or the psychiatric wards .

Don't think that the grass is greener on the other places..

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Wankerton 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol at least white women just get cats

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Wankerton 0 points ago +1 / -1

Lol at least white women just get cats

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Baaladvocate 28 points ago +28 / -0

Stop reading my horoscope! The outlook is bleak enough already

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GameOnGlobalists 23 points ago +23 / -0

Even without all this, about half of the dating pool is now biologically contaminated.

Until now, you could walk up to a cute girl, have a conversation, and unless she failed either of those basic tests, she didn't automatically disqualify.

Now, half the time you've lost the game even before casting the first glance at her, unless you want someone with hijacked cells producing a bioweapon.

This makes me depressed.

Edit: I have turned this into a post, in hopes of a helpful conversation.

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ShadowyMrBlank 6 points ago +6 / -0

You're not alone on that black pill, fren.

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Weloveflyovercountry 6 points ago +6 / -0

"stop sexually assaulting me with your eyes even though my shirt shows my cleavage"

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zerocooltx 26 points ago +26 / -0

dating in your 30s is depressing AF. seriously if you're young find a keeper and settle down. It's fucking awful. These are your choices: divorced and multiple kids by another man. no kids, not even sure if they want kids, but really they are too old to have kids anyway and call themselves "dog mom", or someone a decade or more younger than you that you have zero in common with who still wants to party, all their friends are guys, and they get none of your references. also if you aren't rich looks wise you probably aren't getting the cream of the crop.

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flashersenpai 12 points ago +13 / -1

someone a decade or more younger than you that you have zero in common with

You don't find young women to talk about life or hobbies.

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CoyoteTan 23 points ago +23 / -0

Donald Trump raided Eastern Europe for a reason, gents.

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flashersenpai 10 points ago +10 / -0

Foreign women aren't better, and are well acquainted with immigration law. For example, did you know claiming domestic abuse gives a woman a shortcut to having a green card?

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HIGH_ENERGY_MEMES 1 point ago +1 / -0

Gotta be careful on that one. Plenty of money hungry eastern euros too.

People are the same the world over. It's a mixed bag of good and bad. You gotta work to get yourself in the good crowd by striving towards that in yourself.

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DeploraBen 23 points ago +23 / -0

A strange game.

The only winning move is not to play.

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Droford 11 points ago +11 / -0

Id rather play Global Thermonuclear War

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Buck_O_Five 10 points ago +10 / -0

At the end of thermonuclear war you'll keep more of your stuff than the divorce.

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spelunking_librator 2 points ago +2 / -0

and also you don't have to mow glass every week

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dhamm6500 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wouldn't you prefer a good game of chess?

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

“We’re being genocided guys!”

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chickeninoven 20 points ago +21 / -1

He forgot the part where he fruitlessly spends all his money to try to make her happy, then she leaves anyway and takes what he has left.

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MemeSquad 20 points ago +20 / -0

I can’t keep a profile up on Tinder long enough to meet anyone. I’m always labeled offensive and removed! Haha! I work too much and don’t have time for that nonsense anyway.

I am in the Detroit area though so hit me up Shane!

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becky21k1 21 points ago +22 / -1

Tinder is a site where people meet to fuck, how can anything on it possibly be offensive

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DuxBellorum [S] 32 points ago +33 / -1

I actually am permanently banned on Hinge because on my profile I had something like: I'm not into marine biology so can all the whales please stop liking me?

Hinge permanently banned me for that.

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becky21k1 11 points ago +14 / -3

lol sounds totally worth it

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BarronVonSaltzburg26 6 points ago +6 / -0

That's hilarious

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kt524 1 point ago +2 / -1

Ok so hinge is out then? Was going to give it a try then stopped at wanting 6 pictures because who the fuck has 6 pictures of themselves?

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DuxBellorum [S] 8 points ago +9 / -1

Women who you don't want to date.

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fskfsk 13 points ago +13 / -0

Like all big tech, it's run by commies and most of the users are wannabe commies.

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becky21k1 2 points ago +4 / -2

Most of the users want to be something they don't even understand?

That's just like men who want to be women

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Smurfection 0 points ago +2 / -2

Doesn't that describe you though? Aren't you a male to female transgender?

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becky21k1 3 points ago +4 / -1

Always somebody who has to try to ruin the joke.

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SgtThomasHighway 18 points ago +18 / -0

Even the good ones now are corrupted with the over-inflated entitlement and expectations. They care more about what their female peers think, even though they all hate each other. And by "good ones" I mean the ones that are not addicted to alcohol and have good jobs, don't sleep around, go to church, but they have small dogs to deal with the anxiety of having no kids. And they just keep getting older, not realizing that time has run out; always believing that meeting the perfect man, that other women would approve of, is just around the corner.

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FireannDireach 17 points ago +17 / -0

Don't forget the pills. They're all on pills.

And then they go off them, and the demons come forth.

Been there, have the scars. If you see pill bottles - RUN.

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anonanomous 1 point ago +1 / -0

:/ feels bad man

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BarronVonSaltzburg26 11 points ago +11 / -0

Had a great employee, hardworking, gym build, decent looking, who asked his girl to get married. She told him to give her a 2 carat ring minimum or her answer would be no. He asked me about it and I told him to run, which he did. He's with a lady now 10 years younger and runs her own business.

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HIGH_ENERGY_MEMES 4 points ago +5 / -1

I really dislike this threads majority view of women. In my world its not the reality. Sure there are toxic women. This is over amplified via social media. Get out there in the real world and much women are decent, also looking for decent men.

If the majority of what you find in life is these 'useless cheating' etc women Id say look at your own life and why this is the only women you find around you. There are plenty of great women out there but you need to clean up your house so you have choice and options and bring the right crowd into your world. I saw a saying one that your the average of your 5 closest friends. Id say this is the similar with the women you keep meeting, if your only meeting the bottom of the barrel, get out of that barrel and there are better barrels around.

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SanFranShitty 1 point ago +1 / -0

Exactly!

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

Many men waste their high school & college years not looking for a likeminded person to marry, wait until their 30s to become established, & then go to all the wrong places (like the internet) when they finally start looking.

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Sir_Girth 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think you’re ODing on black pills, fren.

Should I call 911?

All kidding aside, I kind of get it. I don’t even know where to begin finding a decent woman these days.

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covok48 0 points ago +1 / -1

You sound fat & alone.

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CynicalTwit22 13 points ago +13 / -0

Lower your expectations

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DuxBellorum [S] 8 points ago +9 / -1

Is negative infinity expectations possible? Because that's the only way to get any lower.

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CynicalTwit22 6 points ago +6 / -0

Lol. I hear ya. That wasn't a dig. Those three words haunt us every day. Lower your expectations. That's the Globalist mantra.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

If they aren't worth it they aren't worth it.

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A_Fish_That_Talks 12 points ago +12 / -0

Rod Stewart after his many divorces - "next time I'm going to find a woman that hates me and just buy her a house".

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Bigger_igloo 12 points ago +12 / -0

Dont forget the expectation of helping with 2 kids.

Shit, cant believe I'm being recommended chicks under 40 with 16 to 18 year old kids. It's not weird for them as much as im not used to seeing that shit and would still like to have kid(s)

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DuxBellorum [S] 28 points ago +29 / -1

Yeah, it's sad how desparate some of these women are too. I'm in my early thirties and I met this woman, a friend of a friend, who is 40yo. She has a 20yo daughter. Pretty. This 40yo woman would flirt with me nonstop and tell me how great I am and how I'm not like other guys. She really wanted me but I kept telling her if she thought that way maybe she should set me up with her daughter. She never did because she wanted me for herself but like you, I still want kids. A 40yo woman with another man's kid isn't wife material for me. Not sure what goes through these women's heads.

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WhatUCan 12 points ago +12 / -0

You seemed to nail it on the head when you mentioned selfishness. She should be looking out for her daughter not herself

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Axiom502 2 points ago +2 / -0

It should have been perfectly reasonable for all parties (you, the 40 yo, the 20 yo, all their friends, society) for you to show interest in the 20 yo. But clown world labels you as some sort of creep perv or predator. Might even get called a pedo. Becaue you won' t go for the old single mom.

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DuxBellorum [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Right, I just want a woman who can be a mother to my children and yeah a 20yo qualifies.

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Axiom502 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can only imagine her reaction when you inquired about the daughter kek

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DuxBellorum [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

It was something like "omg you guys are all the same"

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Bigger_igloo 1 point ago +1 / -0

We all know. Modern Feminism is making them super happy, everyone for that matter. Who doesnt wanna be slutty till 40ish then decide to settle down after the dating pool empties out.

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NakaTrash 10 points ago +10 / -0

kek

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becky21k1 10 points ago +11 / -1

I don't know, in today's dating world those expectations might still be too high

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Tad48 9 points ago +9 / -0

😂😂

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PepeAmericusMaximus 9 points ago +9 / -0

Did this guy miss the Charlize Theron post? She's looking for a sucker, I mean, good man.

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GabeC1997 9 points ago +9 / -0

Ironically, that would chase off any of the women who are actually like that because they would rather run away instead of acknowledging their own faults.

Truly a Sigma move.

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Zxc26 8 points ago +8 / -0

So true, even my mom stopped nagging me to get married with one of these sociopaths. Most guys in my family are divorced or given up on their other halfs, staying mainly together because of kids.

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JesusisKing 7 points ago +7 / -0

legitimately trying very hard to find a wife in my twenties now

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DuxBellorum [S] 8 points ago +10 / -2

If I was giving my younger me any advice, I'd say you should avoid bars, churchs and online dating. Waste of time.

Your best bet unfortunately is literally walking around in a mall and asking a girl you think is your type who is shopping by herself for shoes in a store if she wants to go on a date with you. If you work downtown in an area people walk to and from work or a major train station/route, literally ask out any girl you see that you might be interested in. If you work near a major food court, if you see a girl sitting alone eating food that you might be interested in, ask her. Go shopping to those crafts store like Michaels or home stores like bedbath and beyond, if you see a girl by herself, ask her out.

Yes, it's not easy. Yes, you're going to fail 99/100 but it's very honestly your only decent shot at finding a decent woman.

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JesusisKing 4 points ago +4 / -0

I appreciate the advice but I am good haha i know my way around its just the quality has fallen a lot to near braindead

upwards is a good app. God provides just live life and focus on crushing IMO

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Sir_Girth 3 points ago +3 / -0

Never heard of that app. Definitely giving it a try! Thanks, pede!

Also, good luck!

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JesusisKing 2 points ago +2 / -0

its really great just be realistic and honest and you will likely come up with a win from it. not as glamorous of a crowd as some other apps, but for good reason.

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covok48 3 points ago +3 / -0

Remember, you just have to be successful once.

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JesusisKing 2 points ago +2 / -0

this has been my mantra for a while now. To each their own, I only need the one.

Unfortunately this fallen world teaches the exact opposite and its hard to not fall short at my age...

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rebelde_sin_causa 27 points ago +27 / -0

A male doesn't have to be. But if he's dating women who are above that age his odds of finding a suitable one get a lot worse. The good ones get taken early.

I cannot stress this point enough: If she's both attractive and available, there's a reason she's available. Attractive women who make good partners are almost never available. They get locked down early by guys who have their act together.

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flashersenpai 2 points ago +2 / -0

there won't be anyone waiting for them if they take too long

and when they're in their mid 30's they won't either after the divorce

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Pedecounter 2 points ago +2 / -0

the vast majority of divorces are initiated by the wife. getting married in current year is a fool's bargain. you are going to get cheated on, lose half your property and any retirement you built, be ordered to pay her alimony for the rest of her life, and if you had kids with her you might be granted alternate weekends if you're lucky.

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is the most Zoomer post I’ve seen yet.

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Bigger_igloo 6 points ago +6 / -0

I was, well living with gf, but was smart enough to unsettle. Granted, I was still a wildboy so I take partial credit.

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Bigger_igloo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wasnt exactly an alter boy either, but you have to wise up eventually if you wanna get anywhere in life

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ColonelKlink 3 points ago +3 / -0

Can confirm, met my husband in my early 20s.

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MythArcana 7 points ago +7 / -0

He's in the right place then. There's more hookers online than Vegas will ever see.

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TekkenJam 6 points ago +6 / -0

jesus christ you described my last relationship. never date 40 year old whores who never had kids because theyre fucken woke.

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shutyourcommiemouth 1 point ago +1 / -0

I used to fuck a 46 year old with no kids when I was 22. She just walked up to me while I was walking my dog and gave me her number. Easiest poon I ever got. But the sex was horrible.

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Pureblood41 6 points ago +6 / -0

This is exactly, EXACTLY, 100% the option for today.

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HeavenlyTrumpets 6 points ago +6 / -0

omg I laughed so hard......

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zentoco 6 points ago +6 / -0

What the... Shane should have told me this 15 years ago. Aside from the pills, this is about spot on for what I just went through, divorce on-going now.

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tiamat 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm still naive enough to believe there might be something out there that won't end in depression

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Sir_Girth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Same here, pede… I’m mid 30s too. Might be delusional optimism, but I ain’t giving up yet!

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CaptainSmirk 5 points ago +5 / -0

Can testify.

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DuxBellorum [S] 5 points ago +9 / -4

Not really. You're right but also wrong. Shane is reacting to the bleak situation.

  1. 99% of men would reduce their drinking and video game playing if there was a woman in the picture. What do you expect men to do? Get home from work and meditate?

  2. A house is not a good investment for most people. This is something most people don't grasp but women less than men. It lies you down to a specific location because there are fixed costs associated with selling early. That makes it harder to move if needed and if you haven't found a wife yet, why be locked down to any city? This could reduce your total income over the long term by not jumping on career moves in diff cities. Fixed costs include realtor/legal/mortgage fees and higher moving costs (more furniture and garage stuff). If you only own a house for a temporary time, you run a lot of market risk because you don't have the luxury of averaging the housing market fluctuations over a long period of time. You can lose tens of thousands on houses. I owned a house for 5 years and lost $40,000 on it. Renting would have been way better. Not to mention in major cities to own a house you usually need to up your travel time for 10-20 minutes to work to 20-40 or even higher which is a significant hit to quality of life for 0 gain necessarily.

  3. His lack of motivation in life comes from the fact that any effort he has put in hasn't resulted in acquiring a wife so why bother trying? Getting shitfaced at Applebees at least gets him laid with hot 22yo women from time-to-time whereas going to church and becoming a perfect catch for a woman literally got him no where. That's why his motivation is so down in the gutter.

  4. The work retail at Applebees isn't what this guy does because he wouldn't be on Tinder since he'd have a new stream of 21yo waitresses he'd be having house parties with doing tons of blow and fucking like a champ. He's probably more likely to be some blue-collar worker making $80k/yr who likes to go hunting and fishing and dabbles with some worthless old vehicle in his garage on weekends he can never fix up properly. As ironic as that is, the sleazy deadbeats actually seem to score much better than the non-deadbeats. But this is all speculation.

The point is that men often are demotivated because of women. When there is quality women in a man's life, men get motivated. Women don't work like that. How many men do you know complain about a woman's lack of motivation in life and if only the woman had male attention, then she would be motivated? Ever try to motivate a fat girl to lose weight because if she lost weight then you'd date her? Men rise up to this challenge. Hang a 8/10 girl in front of a 5/10 guy and say if you lose weight, she is all yours. He'll be Olympic champion by the end of the year. Hang an 8/10 woman in front of a 5/10 fat girl and tell her he'll be hers if she loses weight and she'll tell you a million ways why she's too good for him, she's already perfect and she shouldn't need to lose weight and he should want to date her the way she is or he's worthless.

If women want more motivated men, women need to give men a reason to be motivated.

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HIGH_ENERGY_MEMES 3 points ago +3 / -0

I respectfully think you've got it wrong.

1/3/4 all basically say 'I'll be a good man when you arrive but until I'll then I'll be other".

If you dont have your life in order and expect it to happen because the right girl comes along you're dreaming. Also how do you attract a decent girl? What women with options (as a decent girl will have) wants to take the punt on the 7 hour a day computer game playing womaniser coming good, when there are other men out there with their lives in order. You're unlikely to get a shot at these girls in the first place even if this theory held weight.

Its like those lazy workers you meet that say I'll work hard when a job pays me well. It doesn't work that way, the hard working man gets the promotions and ends up being paid well because he always worked hard. Its a core attitude built into their life, the lazy guy will always be lazy but makes excuses rather than face their own flaws.

Point 2: You house is one of the best ways to make money. Id say you losing money is the minority. Only on the ability to leverage makes PPOR investment one of the most profitable investment when done well.

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DuxBellorum [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

What I'm saying is that those all come after the fact. Most men don't want to be playing video games and drinking beer all day but they end up doing that because that's all they can do. They went out, got their life together and then didn't get rewarded for it so they kept trying and trying and trying then eventually gave up. If the guy is 17 years old, unmotivated, plays video games all the time, has a shit retail job etc... I get it but we're talking 30yo+ men.

Most guys who are 30yo+ did the gym 4 times a week, good career, sports game after work, volunteering, fishing/hunting, read books, start a business/side-gig (or try), buy a house, work around the house, etc... But then they ended up not finding a wife and eventually they stopped getting promotions at work. The time/effort they put into things didn't really pay off, so what do they do? They play video games and drink because what else is there to do?

Like imagine you were studying for an exam you never got to take. Every day you spend hours grinding for that exam. You keep thinking the exam will come up but the exam never comes up. How long do you keep studying for? 1 year, 2 years, 3 years? After a while, all that work needs to come to fruition or you burn out and that's what has happened to most guys. They never were rewarded for all the effort they put in so they burnt out. They lost motivation. Why study if you never get to take the exam? You can only put in all that effort without reward for so long.

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HIGH_ENERGY_MEMES 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think we found the problem.

"Most men don't want to be playing video games and drinking beer all day but they end up doing that because that's all they can do."

"They play video games and drink because what else is there to do?"

Your presenting these as the only option. When you mention things like "volunteering, fishing/hunting, read books, start a business/side-gig" these are good and enjoyable things. You shouldn't be doing these to find women, but for the enjoyment of the activities themselves. Or if they aren't for you find these type of activities that you like. Don't choose your activities based on trying to impress some potential woman. If you did these hoping to earn a woman but didn't enjoy them your not going to impress anyone, your not being true to yourself, that comes through.

Find positive activities you do enjoy. Its like Jordan Peterson says you need to find purpose more than happiness. Computer games and drinking are not the fall backs. And dont expect it to be easy, especially at first while you habit change. And when you find the activities you do enjoy be it fishing or whatever this offsets other areas of your life like not getting that promotion as you have other meaning in your life to fall back to.

Don't listen to the detractors here. Not boasting but I always punched above my weight meeting women as an average looking guy. I think that is I've generally pursued independent activities, get stuff done and lived live in a positive way on my terms. Women like that. I think many are as lost as us and if you look like someone that lives life they will want to join that train ride. Like when your out looking to meet girls and you cant but that boys night when your having fun with your mates and focused on that they come over. They want to join the ride your on. So build the ride that suits you and the right girl for that ride is far more likely to come along.

Its all easier said than done but look you have to choose the path. And picture yourself as an old man on his last days talking to himself, succeed or fail which path would you have chosen to strive for?

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anonanomous 2 points ago +2 / -0

A man’s purpose is to work and provide for his family.

So to say a man needs to find purpose to find purpose doesn’t make sense. All forces inside us drive us towards reproduction and the well-being of our offspring. Doing the right thing all your life and having society come apart at the seams leaves those who did the right thing out in the cold. The ones willing to lie cheat and steal have no issue abusing person after person and are rewarded by society. The ones who make good choices suffer.

But the good news is eventually it works out. The long suffering is part of the plan to carve out even better situations down the line. So even though I say the above, really, in time it will work out for the best for those who make the right choices and have the right values. It’s like an investment. In the short term it doesn’t seem too good but eventually it pays off. So the best advice I can give to anyone in these situations is to never give up. That’s all there is to it. Never quit or surrender to evil. Good will find a way.

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DuxBellorum [S] -1 points ago +1 / -2

Why do you care so much to blame other men instead of accept what the men are telling you? Look at this topic. Everyone agreeing. I think your take is outdated and wrong.

Me personally? I don't date outside my league but I guess it depends how you want to look at leagues. If 100% of women were overweight ham beasts, would you base the average of these women as a 5/10 and the top say 10% as 9-10/10 even though they were overweight ham beasts?

Now imagine all men were 6'4", 6-pack, 7-figure salary, amazing 50 shades of grey man. Would you consider the average of these men 5/10 and the top 10% a 9-10 so you think unless you were a 9/10 of these guys, you don't deserve to date a 9-10/10 ham beast?

Women's attractiveness has come wayyyyyy down in the last 30 years. Significantly down. I'm not desparate. I would rather be single than be with a ham beast but I am not batting out of my league, there just isn't the supply that there ought to be for my league so it creates an impossible playing field.

And I'm not vain, I've tried dating women I don't find attractive just for the sense of intimacy (not sex but just the whole care about the other person) but I just felt dirty, like probably how an 18yo whore feels after some 60yo fat dude has his way with her and she's disgusted so she questions for the first time if maybe she should have some sense of self worth.

My standards aren't high in the look category but what I'm looking for in the personality doesn't really exist anymore. I like feminine housewives that want to stay home, have children, home school children, aren't materialistic, aren't into politics or woke social justice virtue signaling, aren't crass/aggressive and combative and let the man be the head of the household. In terms of personality, I would agree my standards are too high but unfortunately, I've dabbled in women lots, was married at one point too. Women who aren't the above just aren't worth being with. They detract from my life and add nothing to it.

And trying to pin blame on men for men "failing" to acquire a wife really misses the mark and is quite harsh. Most of these guys have done all they can do and still lose because the game isn't designed to allow for most men to win.

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DuxBellorum [S] 0 points ago +2 / -2

Like David Deida's way of the superior man? Good read.

I'm not in the USA. A conservative church going family woman is mostly a unicorn here. There aren't really any quality churches let alone quality women at church here. I was at a church 2 weeks ago. They made us pray for politicians to end all hate in the world. Like what is that, lmao. That was church number 3 I've tried in the last month in this small town I moved to. The level of wokeness at these churches is off the chart. It's also the 8th city I've been to on the hunt for a decent wife. I'm giving up and focusing on my golf game and curling instead if this city fails cause I've put too much effort into it already.

I took a break last week from church hunting and was making bacon and eggs last Sunday in the morning in my kitchen because I remembered I had some eggs and bacon that was nearing expiry. Modern Christians in most places are pretty "woke". Not a place I'm comfortable being because of some of the theology they try to push. The decent churches are actually pretty rare and not that common to find. Usually, they're seen more like cults than they are churches and usually do have strict rules. But I'm not willing to go to those lengths just to find a decent woman.

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DuxBellorum [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Men don't control it though. If you read stoicism, you should understand this better than most. I don't make the women in this society, other men, the government, Hollywood, etc..., make the women. At best I can navigate the system that exists. I choose how I am going to be within this system but I can't change the system. That's essentially the point of stoicism, is it not? You can accept the system but you can't change it. No matter what a man does he may not get what he wants from the system specifically because he doesn't control it.

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covok48 0 points ago +1 / -1

You are not a man. Men take responsibility & don’t blame everyone else. This meme is funny, yes. But if you honestly believe this is your life you’ve done fucked up somewhere.

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DuxBellorum [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

Ahhh, I see you've been out of the loop for awhile. Applying 1990s knowledge to 2020.

Also, I'm in investment banking. Houses aren't always a better investment. That's factually false. For a lot of single guys they aren't. Equity carries risk and sometimes the price of house+taxes+maint+Util - equity is more than rent expenses. Especially since you're rarely comparing apples to apples. People rent apartments and buy houses. Houses tend to be more than what most people need to live. Buy an apartment and you introduce significant condo fee risk.

And you're only looking at wealth. Wealth isn't always the most important thing. At the levels of wealth we're talking, the differences are useless. What's the difference between having $50k in the bank vs. $0 to your lifestyle? For most people, it's none. Maybe take a few more vacations. Big deal. Nothing changes.

You got it good. Don't make the mistake to think anyone can be like you as long as they just talk right, hit the gym, buy a house and repaint the trim. Most guys have done this and come away empty handed because the sad fact of 2020 is there just aren't that many quality women left.

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covok48 1 point ago +2 / -1

Shane has the look of a mid-2000s college kid. At 35, he should have some kind of tangible assets, not using ‘adult’ as a verb, & his console set-up should not be the first thing you see when you enter his place.

The more I read your post, the less sympathy I have. You sound like a total loser. And being a loser is absolute pussy repellent.

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DuxBellorum [S] -1 points ago +1 / -2

He looks like an average small town kind of guy. I know guys who look just like him with girls who are 9/10 smoke shows. You seem pretty judgmental over something so trivial.

The town I'm living in right now is an agriculture heavy town that has about 3200 people and this guy is better dressed/styled than most of the guys here. It's rare to see any guy dressed in anything besides a hoodie, hat and jeans. Oh, and the women like that look. If you dress like you're a professional earning $500k/yr downtown NYC, everyone will think you're pretentious. Even the last city I was at with over 1m people had a huge dislike for men who overdressed. I once wore black jeans, chelsea books and a blue dress shirt out on a date to a fancy restaurant DT with a nurse practitioner I met on hinge and she asked me why I was so overdressed. She was wearing ripped jeans and a belly shirt.

Dress is very location specific. I think that guy is probably doing fine for where he's at. Women who are judgmental on dress and would judge that guy aren't women any man would want to be with. I don't even think my fashion consultant who has dressed men in Hollywood would give this guy a hard time. It's the low-class women who think they're bigger deals than they are or the highly judgmental vain bitches who actually care about these things.

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AMulletManAppears 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't think anyone with a full time job can play games and watch sports 6-8 hours a day, there's always stuff like commuting, eating, taking a shit, taking a shower, groceries, gym that cost a good chunk of free time, and that's assuming someone who work 9-5. 1-4 hours is more realistic, 6-8 on the weekends only.

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Bball-gurl 4 points ago +4 / -0

Anyone in NYC looking for a based, non-jabbed lady pede? Yes, its come down to this. Jabbed fellows need not apply.

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RyanT282 5 points ago +5 / -0

Move out of NYC and you'll be surrounded by them. Single MAGA men outnumber single MAGA women probably 1,000 to 1 or worse.

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MobileDev4Trump 4 points ago +5 / -1

All my neighbors are divorced or at some stage of separating. It's 50/50 whose at fault. The only couple that isn't doing bad is nice Portuguese old lady whose husband is in a home with dementia.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol that's grim

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Joshua55 4 points ago +4 / -0

And women wonder why they can't keep a man.

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DontApologize 4 points ago +5 / -1

Funny. But sounds a bit pathetic. Women are not complicated - make it to the top 20% of men and they will be into you. And the good news is there are factors you can change like wealth (and income) and fitness levels. Even looks can be improved a little bit.

The bad news is well - you are in competition with every other male as women left to their own ways will gladly be part of a harem rather than date a loser. This is big part of the reason why the West really pushed the whole marriage thing and the cheating concepts. This gave men a chance and female companionship and greatly increased the productivity of society.

But as women have gained more freedom - the competition for men has gotten harder. We are sliding towards the harem system again.

So unless you are gifted with looks or height you have to bust your ass to outcompete your fellow men. The other issue is that you have to maintain your status. Female love is always conditional. Sounds cold - but that's the way it is.

My girl says women are like cats. It's not clear that cats really love you - but they sure seem to when you bring them food. :P Dogs OTOH loyal to the end. At FWIW I like cats and dogs. So not picking on cats.

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krackenPie 1 point ago +2 / -1

The Rational Male has entered the chat

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is big part of the reason why the West really pushed the whole marriage thing and the cheating concepts. This gave men a chance and female companionship and greatly increased the productivity of society. But as women have gained more freedom--

I don't buy this explanation. You were more accurate at the end. However, I wouldn't call it "freedom" that they gained. The fact is productivity and technology made things safe and convenient enough for them to decide to be more "free."

If women wished for the state of things to change, they would agitate for such. Just as they agitated for Prohibition.

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DuxBellorum [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Cats are actually a good way to describe women.

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CnnWillBlackmailYou 3 points ago +3 / -0

I suppose if you pretend to want what you know you're already going to get, you won't be disappointed?

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TaxDollarsHardAtWork 3 points ago +3 / -0

Let me introduce you to my ex-wife.

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remindmelater 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well....he should have absolutely no problem finding the mate he just described...just remember however...this bonus...25% of all marriages are sexless.....

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Swarlos8888 2 points ago +3 / -1

Well thats why online dating is a huge waste of time. Plenty of women out there. Just go out and try.

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patrioticwinning3 2 points ago +2 / -0

I mean if you only date online Liberal Women...

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TheSaltyProphet 2 points ago +2 / -0

For extra fun: you got to find out if she has a wiener or not....😳

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Weloveflyovercountry 2 points ago +2 / -0

sounds like he is looking for a woman with a sense of humor

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Weloveflyovercountry 1 point ago +1 / -0

why isnt there any appreciation/respect for a woman at a young age didnt kill her unborn out of 'convenience or ha a career"? a middle aged woman with a teenage child should be celebrated instead of put down..

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DuxBellorum [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

Oh I think that's a great she for women to be having children. I just don't have much respect for single mothers. 99% of the time, the fault that the relationship didn't last is with the woman.

There's two general themes I think.

Good looking woman picks hot 22yo bad boy drug dealer when she's 20yo. She completely ignores all the educated, fit, good career, family men that made a pass on her because they're ugly/boring. She has hot bad boy's kid/s. Hot bad boy just likes to get high on weed and work some deadend job. He never wants to do anything except toke up with his bros, play call of duty and have sex. She thinks she's living the high life for ~5 years before she decides the guy is a loser and wants out. Voila now you have a 30yo single woman passed her prime who thought you were a loser when you first tried to get with her. She's now into you except she only is into you for your money and doesn't find you sexually attractive but her little daughter needs a father figure so perhaps you can fit into some sort of business arrangement. It's void of any passion and she clearly will never love you. I have 0 respect for these types of single moms. That was this woman in particular. Her ex-husband who she had the kid with was in a biker gang and she's an ex-heroin junkie. Now's she's all cleaned up but looks like she's 10 years older than she is. If you saw pics if her in her 20s you'd be amazed. It's why her daughter was quite hot... Anyway, I don't have much respect for women who pic this life path.

Theme number two is where some decently attractive average girl finds some decently attractive average guy and they should have lived happily ever after but she buys into feminism, get some promotion at work because she's a woman but thinks it's because she's amazingly competent. Her white male husband struggled at his career because he's a white male. She starts taking charge of the relationship because she thinks she's better than him. His confidence is shot and he lets her take control thinking he's being a good bluepilled husband that believes in equality. He tries asserting himself a little when she pushes too far. She doesn't appreciate it. They stop liking each other and eventually breakup. She's now got some professional career/job and thinks she's hot shit. Except in terms of what men truly find attractive, she's actually worse than she was 10-20 years before. Now though, she acts like she deserves an even better guy when her first husband was probably the best guy she'll ever get. I hate these types of single moms.

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WenOli311 1 point ago +3 / -2

Best pic’s he has? A 90’s knock-off wanna be Beastie Boy?

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DuxBellorum [S] 2 points ago +4 / -2

That guys casual photo puts him in a look category where he's better looking than 75% of the women out there.

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ObongoForPrison2020 1 point ago +11 / -10

If you're 30+ and haven't settled down, it's not in the cards for you.

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Vino 11 points ago +11 / -0

That's retarded.

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ObongoForPrison2020 11 points ago +11 / -0

Probably. But as a conservative man in his early 30s, there is seemingly nothing out there. Self-fulfilling prophecy, I suppose.

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Vino 11 points ago +12 / -1

Stay in shape, and establish yourself. It can be beneficial to start in your 30s. When I got divorced, my ex couldn't take my house and most of my assets, because I had them before we were married. Her jaw hit the fucking floor when the lawyer told her what she could get. Good times.

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 3 points ago +3 / -0

Really? Is this speciric state law or common all over the place?

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Vino 5 points ago +5 / -0

It goes state by state. Personally, I'm in Texas. Neither spouse is entitled to anything the spouse had before the marriage. Some states, mostly blue are total shit shows. Don't ever get married in a state with alimony and all the other BS.

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covok48 1 point ago +2 / -1

Do men just not have game anymore? I consider myself just slightly charming and never had any trouble with women. Believe it or not but women like to be talked to.

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Vino -1 points ago +0 / -1

Thanks for the tip playboy! Can't wait to spit this game. BTW you sound like a fag.

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covok48 0 points ago +1 / -1

No problem. Glad I could help since apparently no one on this thread has any inclination to leave their comfort zones to actually interact with the opposite sex. Its like a school dance where each sex is on opposite sides of the dance floor & lamenting no one is walking over.

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Vino 1 point ago +1 / -0

Apparently you haven't interacted with the opposite sex lately, or..... you already found a good one.

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HairEStamper 4 points ago +4 / -0

I am 35 and I agree. I know I will remain a bachelor for the rest of my life. I dated throughout my teens and twenties, came close to settling down with one. I do not desire marriage or to have children.

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ObongoForPrison2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

Early thirties. It's a sad realization for me, personally. I'm up in the air (leaning towards) on having kids, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to meet a great woman. Only ever loved one and that sadly didn't work out (mid-twenties). Been by myself ever since.

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HairEStamper 2 points ago +2 / -0

I came to the realization in my early 30s that I was extremely unhappy in all of my relationships. All relationships are built on trust and I have a hard time trusting anybody (trauma from childhood). I only trust one other person other than myself.

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ObongoForPrison2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

I hear you loud and clear. Different situations between us, but agreed, trust is everything. The woman I loved wrecked my trust, and no, she didn't cheat. Just sucks.

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DuxBellorum [S] 3 points ago +5 / -2

Funny you say that because Plato over 2000 years ago believed 30yo was the best age for a man to get married. I agree with you for women. A woman's prime is around 20yos but men shouldn't be marrying in their early 20s, most men just aren't mentally ready.

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Dremux 8 points ago +9 / -1

A woman's' prime is 18 to 22, that's where they should be locking a guy down. Sad to say, they usually would rather "find themselves" until they're 28-30+ where they start to get nervous when the guys that would normally give them attention aren't doing that anymore.

Then they start asking: "where did all the good men go?" cause the guys she does get with are just in it for a quick bit of fun and then bounce.

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Weloveflyovercountry 1 point ago +1 / -0

i would date a woman in her 20's right until she looks up from her phone and speaks.of course i am speaking as a middle aged man.

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onomatopoeia 2 points ago +2 / -0

Last ex I had was 11 years younger. She was psycho and childish. Bad combo!

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

Shut up Zoomer. You have to at least try.

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lenchodahated 1 point ago +1 / -0

me dating in my 20’s lol

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TheDigger2 1 point ago +1 / -0

In that position myself it's both easier and more difficult. On the one hand, if they list their pronouns, BLM or LGBT ally, or vax/boosted, I know they're a retard and can avoid. That eliminates like 30%. Then there's the super morbidly obese (I'm not a fucking model but I'm not twice a healthy body weight either), that eliminates another 30% or so. Then there's the "finished dating every guy in town" aka I had 3 kids with a soy loser and now need your money, eliminating another 30% or so. It's pretty grim.