Vercingetorix (Latin: [u̯ɛrkɪŋˈɡɛtɔriːks]; c. 82 – 46 BC) was a king and chieftain of the Arverni tribe who united the Gauls in a failed revolt against Roman forces during the last phase of Julius Caesar's Gallic Wars. Despite having willingly surrendered to Caesar, he was executed in Rome.
Since we seem to be mirroring Rome and other similar societies, my hope remains that we're just in a stage of decline, like Rome at the times before Ceasar rose, and not in a final swan dive into the eternal pit.
This country will sadly never be the same as it was, but that doesn't mean that we can't stop the path were on and even create something better once we do.
China all but wiped out our spy apparatus in their country due to information gathered by spies in the Feinstein and Swallowswell camps. Let's execute them next to Assange if we are getting rid of traitors.
I don't trust Russia at ALL. But, Snowden's secrets were published on wiki leaks and elsewhere, so what value was he to Russia, who could get them for free like everyone? They took him in to embarras us. Snowden did the brave thing, the sort of thing armchair warriors are always yapping for but never man up to do themselves.
If you want to have more luck with this one, people seem to like Snowden less when they learn more about his past and who he actually is and attack less fanatically when you remind them of it:
Snowden worked for the CIA. This is public knowledge and even on his Wiki.
(BTW, pretty sure the drops you're talking about above were Manning as he just dumped all sorts of files and it did include those names and pictures. Snowden released to "gatekeepers"--they even used that word for themselves, blegh--at what became the Intercept, and they only saw fit to publish PowerPoint slides that confirmed William Binney's actual whistleblowing from years earlier. Snowden really didn't release any info that wasn't already known, one of the many very big problems here...)
Holy hell the downvotes. Obviously these smooth brain retards don’t understand that Snowden is CIA and a total POS. Who got a Hollywood movie? Who gets air time on msm? Who is hailed a hero and who is painted a villain? Assange is a real journalist. Snowden is a traitor. It couldn’t be more obvious.
You don't find many libertarians who mistrust poofters, potheads, and the like. They typically lack socially conservative values on degeneracy. They share this with the left.
It's possible to have a personal distaste for things which can be done in the absence of government authority while still opposing that authority and its evils, but for some reason they rarely, if ever, do.
This isn’t even a controversial view.
Libertarians are left on everything but the economy and guns.
Some of them referred to themselves as classically liberal.
How do you not know this?
A libertarian really goes a bit further although personal definitions can vary.
A libertarian can be against gay people, for instance, they just don’t believe that the violence of the state should be used against them. They might choose to socially and economically ostracize them, but not make their lifestyle illegal. This in no way makes them part of the political left. For the most part libertarian just doesn’t apply to social issues, at least in terms of government actions because libertarians tend to see the government as an illegitimate means of accomplishing most if not all things.
Libertarians, TRUE libertarians (not the faggots who run the party) really don't see eye-to-eye with leftists.
A leftist wants the state to control just about everything and libertarians do not.
A leftist promotes gays and transgenders and libertarians don't care, as long as they aren't forced into their lifestyles.
A leftist will use the state to enforce garbage policies; a libertarian tells the state to fuck right off.
Are you referring to open borders and smoking marijuana?
Again, most TRUE libertarians know the problem with open borders. It leads to violence and crime to allow people to move in without a proper vetting process.
Libertarians again don't give a shit about marijuana and are in the mindset of, "you can do what ever you want as long as you leave us alone." which I think is fair.
Libertarians are impractical about reality, but they aren't even slightly leftist. They think open borders are good, for example, because they think govts have no right to limit movement of anyone; i.e., conservatism for the childlike.
I don’t really accept that definition of right wing, but we can run with that.
A libertarian believes that the violence of the state is illegitimate.
However they feel about social issues they wouldn’t advocate using a state apparatus to control people’s behavior.
How does the state accomplish anything? EVERYTHING they do is backed by violence. All states, everywhere. Is it a necessary evil? Maybe. Most self described libertarians will accept some minimal level of government. The small government our founders envisioned would certainly feel like anarchy to those accustomed to the Leviathan that now dominates every aspect of our life. It’s always been liberty vs security and our society has shown its cowardice by giving away all of its essential liberties.
You have to buy into that argument because the state is literally a monopoly on violence. If laws and taxes didn't carry the threat of violence, they would be polite suggestions.
No argument there. Snowden is a long story for me, and another issue in my life where the links are uncertain and the end is always near. It's entirely possible that he means nothing in my world, but it's also possible he means a lot. I try not to think about it. Assange, at least, I can just like him.
So you are basically saying it does not matter what kind of attrocities your goverment do.. and exposing it if it puts peoples live at risks is not allowed?
It's not about being a sycophant to the cops. It's worse than that. It's about being sycophantic to the state. To think that the only thing you'd agree with fucking Hillary of all people is that the guy who exposed her crimes should be executed, and I'm the leftist? Your priorities are all twisted because ultimately you value the state rather than the people it supposedly serves. You think you're conservative because you want the right kinds of totalitarian in office, but you're just another flavor of state worshipper. That's why I called you a boot licker.
Libertarianism is decayed Jeffersonianism characterized by a frivolous hostility to the state.
The Constitution created the American nation-state. If you reduce the state to nothing like how libertarianism demands, then all you’re left with is the nation. A nation without a state is ripe for conquest by outside entities, like the Kurdish nation.
Libertarianism throws the baby (state) out without the bath water (deep state corruption). Actual conservatism wants to keeps the baby alive and get rid of the filthy bath water
My economic hero is Milton Friedman, and you're a bootlicker. All these evil politicians who enacted lockdowns and forced masks and other bullshit on us wouldn't have the power to enforce it if cops and "rank-and-file" executive branch members didn't happily go along with it. I don't like seeing innocents die, but I also don't like seeing evil people live.
I don’t trust cops or the MIC. Snowden and Assange did a service to the World in exposing the evil within organizations that no longer defend Liberty, Freedom or the Constitution for that matter.
Jack booted thug has been used by people who consider themselves anit-authoritarian. Jackboots are just military boots and it has almost always been an insult hurled AT leftwingers like Stalin's USSR or Nazi Germany, both run by leftist ideologies.
Even if it were a leftwing phrase why wouldn't you use it? It is an accurate description, period. This isn't the same as using their manufactured language to create an artificial consensus point.
How retarded can you be, why would Snowden sell secrets to Russia if Putin is working with Obama. You’re contradicting your own argument. You sound like a Fox News RINO loving boomer swallowing the propaganda that our intelligence services protect us when their true purpose is to oppress us.
Assange isn't an American citizen, Snowden is. They have different responsibilities to the US and its security.
Assange is a journalist. Snowden had a security clearance. There are rules for govt. employee whistleblowers, and confidentiality agreements.
Assange released information that was brought to him (at multiple times over years), Snowden chose to work with the CIA, and then the "competing" NSA, and released dirt on only the NSA despite the CIA being known to be worse (the worst?). It seems like an attempt (by the CIA) to weaken and take over the NSA.
I could be wrong about that last part, but the fact remains that a non-citizen not living in the US does not have the same responsibilities to a country they do not in any way belong to.
Even if I assume the best about Assange and Snowden as well as their releases, the government always has a stronger case against a citizen with security clearance breaking their agreements than against a non-citizen publishing something someone gives them.
I agree, a citizens duty should be to expose any corruption they come across instead of just "following orders" while the government commits crime after crime.
This is my biggest complaint of the Trump presidency (other than the project warp speed big pharma bull fucking shit) The release of pedophile Podesta's emails one month before the election certainly enabled Trump to rocket in the polls. It had the Disneys in damage control every day and claiming muh Russia. Unfortunately Trump's refusal to issue a pardon at the end of his term, quite frankly sucks balls.
This is why White House tapes should have been recording and leaked by Trump if McConnel the coward said that. Trump needs to record everything by everyone if he ever steps foot again inside that office. But I doubt it happens... The Derp State will ensure everything is "fortified" to the max in 24. Dogs and Kids will be sending in mail in ballots and theyll stop the counting of ballots for days to ensure he doesnt get enough.
I agree. I do not comprehend how a president can't just march into the stupid offices of the corrupt fags and make public all their crimes. He never freed Assange. He even let his own supporters stay in jail for a long time. Not happy about national debt and a few other things, but best POTUS in my lifetime who helped the country rather than hurt it.
Even if it is, what makes us believe the best doctor and hax0rs in the world couldn't disable it? Or at least "trick" it into thinking its host is still alive?
How so? In my book exposing crimes by the state is an heroic act. Where are the ones doing the spying? They should be the ones punished, not the people exposing their illegal actions. This is so fucking backwards.
You're getting lots of hate from the Assange fanbois but you're correct. I'll never understand why people here (correctly) hate that tranny traitor Bradley Manning who leaked tons of classified documents, but love Assange who encouraged him to do it and published it all. The mental gymnastics must be Olympian.
I'll never understand why people here (correctly) hate that tranny traitor Bradley Manning who leaked tons of classified documents, but love Assange who encouraged him
Being that the US government constantly and consistently works against the interests of US citizens, you're damned right that those commie fags ruling us should be destroyed. It's perfectly rational to want to throw every single communist out of a helicopter, every pedophile into a woodchipper, and beat the shit out of every useful idiot sympathizer.
they think that the right thing to do is to support people that are actively trying to destroy it
You conflate destruction of the deep state with destruction of the government. Who hates Assange more than anyone? The deep state. Assange greatly helped Trump win in 2016, keeping deep stater HRC out of office.
I suppose that's the psychology of it, but the logic of it is: if Assange is a hero, then the man who leaked it to him must be even more of a hero. That man is the tranny traitor Bradley Manning.
I've read and seen what the US government does wikileaks was very enlightening. Regime changes, supportingdictatos like the Khemer Rouge, bombing hospitals and passenger trains, conducting mass surveillance on its own people, drone striking civilians, arming/training terrorists like the Taliban/ISIS, and unjustified invasions of soverign nations under flimsy pretexts. I cannot in good conscience support any of it.
Sorry, the US government isn't so bad that you support people that betray it.
What a simple-minded take. He predominantly exposed neocon war crimes and Dem corruption via whistleblowers. This is what journalists are supposed to do in our society but don't.
Maybe not the best idea to send such a high profile individual to a country where very questionable things happen to high profile individuals while being incarcerated.
Imagine signal boosting the half-baked takes of a chickenhawk NeverTrumper that supported the use of Michelle Fields' lies to try to oust Trump's campaign manager.
As usual Shapiro is without substance. That clip provides zero evidence that Assange is a "Russian asset". Give the neocon FUD a rest.
It will expose and destroy the media that attacks him. I'll never support any media outlet that pushes for Assange to be imprisoned as they're not journalists, but propagandists.
The media's trust ratings are at all time lows and at some point they'll be as trustworthy as Pravda to most Americans. It sucks for Assange, but the attention from this will be hard to swipe under the rug and it will seperate the good journalists from the propagandists to many, many Americans. Once the news media is forever distrusted, only then will things massively improve.
Putin is not our enemy. The Russians are not our enemies. You have been gurgling deep state dick for too long the propaganda is starting to taste good to you.
This is nonsense. Everyone during the communist era was forced to be in the communist party. All the kids got little red communist membership books in first grade.
Putin is a Russian nationalist fighting for his people and his country. The west has been screwing over Russia since the fall of the USSR. Our governments keep on promising not to stab them in the Back and at every turn they stab them in the back.
Russia has a 10 000 year old military strategic set of requirements that go deep deep into their history. Because of where the Rus are located they have always been under attack from the east, west and south. Over the last 10k years they have developed a deep deep need for buffer zones. During the cold war the eastern bloc was that buffer zone. When the USSR fell, the west made a whole ton of promises to them in exchange for peace and favour which was basically as set of agreements that they would not move nato forces toward Rus lines and not absorb the eastern bloc into Nato.
What has the west done? Moved Nato lines forward up to the border and absorbed every eastern bloc into Nato.
Except one. Do you know which one? That's right, Ukraine.
Ukraine was about to join nato and even requested nuclear weapons on its land to be placed by the west at a EU meeting. This was all public, recorded, you can find the video online.
The Rus are basically saying enough is enough, no more.
And Putin is standing up for his people. He is a good man doing what should have been done 30 years ago.
The Rus and Ukranians are our friends and we should be looking to forge alliances with them against the turks, muslims, chinese and africans.
The fall of the Soviet Union was tragic for the Russian people. They went from being a super power to a laughing stock with a drunk retard for a president, almost as bad as Biden. Not to mention the oligarchs/gangsters who bought up all of the property. The fall of the Soviet Union was not great for Russia. The lifespan for men fell like 6 years something crazy like that. Not saying the Soviet Union was good, but the way the Russian Federation was set up was a huge failure.
If you tell the truth, you are the enemy of many of the world's current governments. It's almost like they took "he who smelled it dealt it" and applied it to crime.
As such Julian Assange is held to be criminally responsible for revealing the truth of war crimes which pretty much amounts to genocide..... while those that actually perpetrated them, walk free ánd continue ruling in such a perverted way that they get courts to rule in favor of things like these.
Julian Assange violated no laws, but American laws, which do not apply to him.
Hmm, I emigrated to a better country after years of meaningless petitions, when I saw protests were getting cracked down on illegally in the Netherlands. Here in Norway, I have organized protests, given half a dozen speeches, some of which in Norwegian, which I learned in record pace.
I joined a union, I have financially contributed to many causes and been personally assaulted for being "an idiot" in Stavanger, I kept my cool and we avoided escalation.
In every way peacible way posible, I will resist this kind of evil.
No trump didn't pardon him because he tried to make a deal where Assange would expose his source and Assange said no. Trump plays hardball and if you turn down a deal cold he'll go scorched earth on you, which is what happened. Art of the deal, next time he comes to the table with Assange he'll get what he wants. Or he will if they don't Epstein him first.
I guess the problem with that is, if there is one, that if you use dead man switch while you are living you guarantee that you will become a dead man since you gave up all your leverage.
Lil Wayne came out in support of GEOTUS in the 2020 election, so the left revived a decade-old gun charge to prosecute him with in retaliation. That’s why he got pardoned, because the left literally wanted to jail him for supporting the President.
Holy fuck, do people have any clue what they’re talking about anymore?
I'm not really educated on the whole Assange thing, I know the very basics but what does this actually mean? will he get any type of trial or is he just gonna be locked away and Epstein'd?
The Uniparty doesn’t even care about appearing to be good anymore. They’re going to stuff as many unpopular things into their agenda as possible this presidency because they know they have a demented president who is too demented to care about his legacy. And then when Biden is done all the Dems and Rinos will claim that they never supported any of it and it was all Biden. Kamala knows she was used and is just trying to take her fame and money and get out at this point, prob with a book deal.
I'm hoping Wiki might have a little something in the files to dump out while the lights are shining brightly on Assange. Something the MSM might not want to talk about?
Assange essentially is a prisoner right now. If he gets extradited to the US before 2025, he would be held until a trial (right?) and would end up in a federal prison. While prison is not a great place to be, he's essentially a prisoner right now.
So, he gets extradited and is in US custody. If he doesn't get suicided, Trump 2025 could commute his sentence and make Assange a free man. I don't think Assange would be pardoned because, truthfully, the WikiLeaks is illegal because it makes classified information public, but it also exposes highly unethical stuff. This is the bad part about it... in order to try to get the unethical stuff to end, it needs to be exposed, which is illegal. It's a cycle, and Assange is the fall guy.
I can't say I agree with what WikiLeaks is doing because it is unethical and illegal... but damn, it's important what they are doing as well. It's a contradiction, and we have to come to terms with a contradiction, we have to choose one or the other. Both cannot co-exist. And because of this, I think it's more important to expose the unethical behavior than it is to keep their documents secret.
Assange, I'm on your side, I hope you become a free man... you are a hero and taking the arrows. It's falling on deaf ears, lots of people don't care about the corruption, but most of us here do.
Julian is not a US citizen. America has had Julian under house arrest for 10 YEARS and he has been in the most vile prisons of all in the Uk for a bunch of years now.
A man that has been tortured for 10+ years has the right to make whatever decision he wants and I get to blame President Trump for being a spineless and characterless pussy.
Assange could face a 175-year sentence for exposing war crimes. The decision will now move to UK's Home Secretary for approval. The defense has until May 18 to make submissions.
Trump should have pardoned him (and Snowden) when he had the chance.
And Assange should have been more open about who killed Seth Rich. Now it's too late. It's like those movies where an informant calls from a phone booth and insists on meeting you to tell you the killer is..... AAAAHAHAHGHGHGHG!
I’m mostly interested in applying this law to Canadians. See, I plan to trick them into violating something legal in Canada, but illegal here. Then I can say, “Listen up you maple syrup loving son of a bitch! You violated US law! Now we’re coming for you!”
Now we can just jail any political dissident and not just our own protestors!
This is going to be a valuable tool once the democrats resume operation World Police!
Slight bit of nerding: this isn't how extradition works in the UK and OP's wording is a bit misleading. What happens now is her case is the Home Secretary looks at it, and makes the decision. That doesn't always mean "yes", because it's political (executive, not judicial). For example, the law prevents her from extraditing anyone who could receive a sentence of death, suffer torture, get an unfair sentence, or where the suicide risk is high.
The likelihood is she'll agree it to get the problem off UK hands, but Assange has a lot of legal help. After that, he can appeal her decision in the courts. This will just go on, and on, and on, and on.
Bullshit. This is Fucked. The criminals are the US government
To be more precise, OBAMA and his installed cronies.
It was going on long before Obama. He just has the Gaul to purge the government from honest dissent.
Gall. Vercingetorix was king of the Gauls.
Somebody find Asterix! We need help!
I could go for some magic potion right now.
He was king and chieftain of the Arverni who united with the Gauls to revolt against the Romans.
Close enough, upvoted just for knowing who the hell he was.
The Arverni were a Gallic tribe. For a couple of centuries I believe they were the most powerful tribe among the Gauls.
He had gall, until Caesar rammed his salad down his throat.
We need another Caesar, someone who will cross our metaphorical Rubicon.
I love this scene from Rome.
Work of fiction obviously but damn relevant.
Since we seem to be mirroring Rome and other similar societies, my hope remains that we're just in a stage of decline, like Rome at the times before Ceasar rose, and not in a final swan dive into the eternal pit.
This country will sadly never be the same as it was, but that doesn't mean that we can't stop the path were on and even create something better once we do.
We tried Rubicon Don. I'm not optimistic, nor dooming. What or who is our next great white hope? Rubicon Ron?
Big Mike confirms that Barry has the gall for sure. It's about 11 inches from his colon.
he needs to be publicly executed. Also Hi FBI Fags!
Yeah Amerika just got pillaged by a group that once called themselves: The Choom Gang
Let that one resonate...
edit: Choom is an anagram for mooch. There is that.
Or c-homo. I don't know what the stands for, though. Chicago?
Chomo is prison slang for child molester, that fits pretty well
Trump could have pardoned him, but didn't. Just sayin'
Mitch the Bitch (possible was Lindsey) said hes vote against trump if he pardoned Assange
Assange is not an American, nor was he in America in 2010, but he did publish classified intelligence stolen from America by a US soldier.
As such, forgiving Assange might have been too much, but simply ignoring him, and doing nothing (as Trump did) was probably the right choice.
As for the mentally ill US soldier who stole the classified info and sent it to a foreigner, they should have been punished even more severely.
Sadly, Obama liked him too much, and let him go home early.
He tried. Assange said no. He didn’t want it to look like he was working with GEOTUS. Probably not Assange’s smartest move.
I never seen this.
Do you have a source for this claim by chance?
Literally everyone who has been on this case since day one have never mentioned anything about this.
Hmmm, Maybe he was
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/assange-offered-pardon-if-he-helped-resolve-speculation-about-russian-n1240424
Source mate, the people are hungry if you got it
Wow, really? Hearing this for the first time.
You're bursting with shit, mate.
Are you confusing Assange with Roger Stone?
How? Stone accepted his pardon.
The Bush cronies are all over this since they control the CIA.
Because it didn't happen. I remember there being murmurs about the GOP would help impeach Trump if he did pardon Assange and/or Snowden.
Obama is an installed crony himself….
I always wondered if he is the antichrist. But I would just tell myself...nah he would have to be alot more popular than that.
He’s a globalist (jewish banker) puppet
Who put that Free Chopper Rides flair on this? Is that mod actually on our side at all?
China all but wiped out our spy apparatus in their country due to information gathered by spies in the Feinstein and Swallowswell camps. Let's execute them next to Assange if we are getting rid of traitors.
Well...
If we gonna start executing traitors don't stop with those two. There's hundreds out there.
We would only have a handful of people left in congress if we started executing treasonous traitors.
and i'm ok with that.
OK, I can think of maybe 2 or 3 that would be left - maybe you're just being generous here?
Underrated comment.
I think Hundreds represent one tenth of one percent, Millions. One per Gater.
Snowden is a gd hero.
Snowden uncovered spying of US citizens by the US government. W is responsible for all of this bullshit with his retarded Patriot Act.
ROFL….yeah people knew that every webcam could be viewed by any alphabet pervert at any time.
Russia is acting more American than America these days. I trust them with the info. Snowden didn't sell out America, he sold out America's traitors.
I don't trust Russia at ALL. But, Snowden's secrets were published on wiki leaks and elsewhere, so what value was he to Russia, who could get them for free like everyone? They took him in to embarras us. Snowden did the brave thing, the sort of thing armchair warriors are always yapping for but never man up to do themselves.
You should move there. Leave this place for Americans.
What would intuition be worth if we didn't have hunters laptop, the burisma papers, the voting cheating stats?
So, he shouldn't have gone nuclear and exposed Obongo's lies about not spying on Americans?
Ok, Disney.
You're the faggot with mostly downvotes, Walt.
Who looks like the idiot again?
Wow downvotes mean something to this reddit fag.
If you want to have more luck with this one, people seem to like Snowden less when they learn more about his past and who he actually is and attack less fanatically when you remind them of it:
Snowden worked for the CIA. This is public knowledge and even on his Wiki.
(BTW, pretty sure the drops you're talking about above were Manning as he just dumped all sorts of files and it did include those names and pictures. Snowden released to "gatekeepers"--they even used that word for themselves, blegh--at what became the Intercept, and they only saw fit to publish PowerPoint slides that confirmed William Binney's actual whistleblowing from years earlier. Snowden really didn't release any info that wasn't already known, one of the many very big problems here...)
Right.
Holy hell the downvotes. Obviously these smooth brain retards don’t understand that Snowden is CIA and a total POS. Who got a Hollywood movie? Who gets air time on msm? Who is hailed a hero and who is painted a villain? Assange is a real journalist. Snowden is a traitor. It couldn’t be more obvious.
Out, Fed fag.
Snowden was very right about one particular thing, but hes a leftist in almost every other area.
Isn’t he a libertarian?
He supports policies like socialist healthcare.
Ok, that is relevant.
It's important in the context of determining whether Snowden is actually a friend to true patriots. Does he support individualism or statism?
He took it back.
so a leftist who doesn't like government.
Please explain to me how libertarians are politically left?
It's the latest attempt to smear and distort, that's all. Same old song and dance.
Allow me. They aren't. True libertarians are the "far right", conservatism is centrist.
You don't find many libertarians who mistrust poofters, potheads, and the like. They typically lack socially conservative values on degeneracy. They share this with the left.
It's possible to have a personal distaste for things which can be done in the absence of government authority while still opposing that authority and its evils, but for some reason they rarely, if ever, do.
This isn’t even a controversial view.
Libertarians are left on everything but the economy and guns.
Some of them referred to themselves as classically liberal.
How do you not know this?
Our founders were “classically liberal.”
It means you believe in individual liberty.
A libertarian really goes a bit further although personal definitions can vary.
A libertarian can be against gay people, for instance, they just don’t believe that the violence of the state should be used against them. They might choose to socially and economically ostracize them, but not make their lifestyle illegal. This in no way makes them part of the political left. For the most part libertarian just doesn’t apply to social issues, at least in terms of government actions because libertarians tend to see the government as an illegitimate means of accomplishing most if not all things.
How?
Libertarians, TRUE libertarians (not the faggots who run the party) really don't see eye-to-eye with leftists.
A leftist wants the state to control just about everything and libertarians do not.
A leftist promotes gays and transgenders and libertarians don't care, as long as they aren't forced into their lifestyles.
A leftist will use the state to enforce garbage policies; a libertarian tells the state to fuck right off.
Are you referring to open borders and smoking marijuana?
Again, most TRUE libertarians know the problem with open borders. It leads to violence and crime to allow people to move in without a proper vetting process.
Libertarians again don't give a shit about marijuana and are in the mindset of, "you can do what ever you want as long as you leave us alone." which I think is fair.
Libertarians are impractical about reality, but they aren't even slightly leftist. They think open borders are good, for example, because they think govts have no right to limit movement of anyone; i.e., conservatism for the childlike.
Unless it's giving minorities money.
I don’t really accept that definition of right wing, but we can run with that.
A libertarian believes that the violence of the state is illegitimate. However they feel about social issues they wouldn’t advocate using a state apparatus to control people’s behavior.
The state isn’t violent? Tell that to the J6ers being beaten.
How does the state accomplish anything? EVERYTHING they do is backed by violence. All states, everywhere. Is it a necessary evil? Maybe. Most self described libertarians will accept some minimal level of government. The small government our founders envisioned would certainly feel like anarchy to those accustomed to the Leviathan that now dominates every aspect of our life. It’s always been liberty vs security and our society has shown its cowardice by giving away all of its essential liberties.
You have to buy into that argument because the state is literally a monopoly on violence. If laws and taxes didn't carry the threat of violence, they would be polite suggestions.
Hint: OP is the leftist.
You're a retard who spouts off with nothing of substance upstairs.
Thank you for participating. The rafters should hold you, rope is in the shed. Help yourself.
Leftist that are anti-government tend to be MAGA.
They pretend to be MAGA. Snowden supports socialism.
I didn't like Snowden. Assange I liked.
I have no issues with Assange.
Snowden caused a stir in the military when I was active duty, but I didnt have much of an issue with him either.
That one faggot who turned trans and is now running for congress, that piece of shit got people killed.
How did he get people killed, didn't he just release info to Assange?
No argument there. Snowden is a long story for me, and another issue in my life where the links are uncertain and the end is always near. It's entirely possible that he means nothing in my world, but it's also possible he means a lot. I try not to think about it. Assange, at least, I can just like him.
I don't know as much about Assange but my Dad agrees with you, and he's as based as they come.
So you are basically saying it does not matter what kind of attrocities your goverment do.. and exposing it if it puts peoples live at risks is not allowed?
Ben Shapiro is a globalist faggot, of course he hates Assange, Shapiro is a CIA stooge neocon cuck.
It’s a shame he will die of suicide. 2 gunshots to the back of the head.
Every camera in the U.S. is about to go offline.
That's good shit
You are not familiar with Arkancide, are you? Nothing is impossible to rule out Arkancide.
I see you're not familiar with Gary Webb
Memes aside, improper grip and recoil can easily cause that. Here is an example: https://www.military.com/video/guns/recoil/girl-double-taps-sw-500-revolver/1255361250001
He will be hung on live TV by Hillary herself then ruled a suicide and no one will do a damn thing about it
He will fall, hit the back of his head causing both his eye sockets to shatter, then tuck himself to bed.
With a bolt action rifle
Hillary wanted to drone him
never forget
say's it all IMO
Hillary killed many of her allies when they threatened the narrative.
While in an embassy.
"Can't we just drone this guy"
How do boots taste?
Not like borscht like the ones you suck on.
It's always Russia with you fags
That is not a leftist insult.
It's not about being a sycophant to the cops. It's worse than that. It's about being sycophantic to the state. To think that the only thing you'd agree with fucking Hillary of all people is that the guy who exposed her crimes should be executed, and I'm the leftist? Your priorities are all twisted because ultimately you value the state rather than the people it supposedly serves. You think you're conservative because you want the right kinds of totalitarian in office, but you're just another flavor of state worshipper. That's why I called you a boot licker.
The Constitution created the American nation-state. If you reduce the state to nothing like how libertarianism demands, then all you’re left with is the nation. A nation without a state is ripe for conquest by outside entities, like the Kurdish nation.
Libertarianism throws the baby (state) out without the bath water (deep state corruption). Actual conservatism wants to keeps the baby alive and get rid of the filthy bath water
My economic hero is Milton Friedman, and you're a bootlicker. All these evil politicians who enacted lockdowns and forced masks and other bullshit on us wouldn't have the power to enforce it if cops and "rank-and-file" executive branch members didn't happily go along with it. I don't like seeing innocents die, but I also don't like seeing evil people live.
Milton Friedman? Your economic hero is a neoliberal globalist?
I don’t trust cops or the MIC. Snowden and Assange did a service to the World in exposing the evil within organizations that no longer defend Liberty, Freedom or the Constitution for that matter.
Jack booted thug has been used by people who consider themselves anit-authoritarian. Jackboots are just military boots and it has almost always been an insult hurled AT leftwingers like Stalin's USSR or Nazi Germany, both run by leftist ideologies.
Even if it were a leftwing phrase why wouldn't you use it? It is an accurate description, period. This isn't the same as using their manufactured language to create an artificial consensus point.
That phrase first got popular in the US back in the Clinton administration, in the wake of the Waco massacre and Ruby Ridge.
You are retarded.
Why you mad some globohomo spooks got killed and their illegal spy program was exposed.
You’re an idiot he gave everything he had to journalists and got asylum in Russia. Putin let him stay as a fuck you to Obama.
How retarded can you be, why would Snowden sell secrets to Russia if Putin is working with Obama. You’re contradicting your own argument. You sound like a Fox News RINO loving boomer swallowing the propaganda that our intelligence services protect us when their true purpose is to oppress us.
Well, you work for the government so that makes sense.
Why Snowden? Not taking a side, just curious; thought they both leaked
Not the OP, but for me:
Assange isn't an American citizen, Snowden is. They have different responsibilities to the US and its security.
Assange is a journalist. Snowden had a security clearance. There are rules for govt. employee whistleblowers, and confidentiality agreements.
Assange released information that was brought to him (at multiple times over years), Snowden chose to work with the CIA, and then the "competing" NSA, and released dirt on only the NSA despite the CIA being known to be worse (the worst?). It seems like an attempt (by the CIA) to weaken and take over the NSA.
I could be wrong about that last part, but the fact remains that a non-citizen not living in the US does not have the same responsibilities to a country they do not in any way belong to.
Even if I assume the best about Assange and Snowden as well as their releases, the government always has a stronger case against a citizen with security clearance breaking their agreements than against a non-citizen publishing something someone gives them.
Man fuck the secret clearance.
Our responsibility should be to uphold the constitution. The entire fucking country is corrupt.
I agree, a citizens duty should be to expose any corruption they come across instead of just "following orders" while the government commits crime after crime.
Amen.
I agree 100%, it's just suspicious that anyone could work for the CIA and not have anything to expose about them.
And there is no such thing as ex-CIA (or any other alphabet agency).
Thank you, there’s so much info it’s hard to keep up
Personally, Snowden stole and traded off US government secrets.
Now he exposed government corruption, which was good, but the second thing, should be prosecuted.
Should he see the death penalty? No, martyrs who sell us Intel to foreign governments shouldn't be that.
He should spend a few years in prison, then live his life out in the USA. That should be the extent of his punishment, IMHO.
Thank you for the response!
Lol you are making things up, and seem to have bad judgement.
Unpopular opinion it seems but thank you for your response!
Yeah, because if she knew you agreed with her you'd get a cabinet position instead of being stuck digging holes you faggot commie.
FREE ASSANGE!
This is my biggest complaint of the Trump presidency (other than the project warp speed big pharma bull fucking shit) The release of pedophile Podesta's emails one month before the election certainly enabled Trump to rocket in the polls. It had the Disneys in damage control every day and claiming muh Russia. Unfortunately Trump's refusal to issue a pardon at the end of his term, quite frankly sucks balls.
The rumor was McConnell told Trump a pardon of assange was a conviction on impeachment.
I wouldnt doubt that McConnell might say it. I have many doubts that Trump would alter his actions in any way in response the threat.
Hard to say. Impeached twice - that's a lot of DC hate right there.
The Uniparty gets their way, again
This is why White House tapes should have been recording and leaked by Trump if McConnel the coward said that. Trump needs to record everything by everyone if he ever steps foot again inside that office. But I doubt it happens... The Derp State will ensure everything is "fortified" to the max in 24. Dogs and Kids will be sending in mail in ballots and theyll stop the counting of ballots for days to ensure he doesnt get enough.
Trump is a coward? Wow! Say it ain’t so!
I agree. I do not comprehend how a president can't just march into the stupid offices of the corrupt fags and make public all their crimes. He never freed Assange. He even let his own supporters stay in jail for a long time. Not happy about national debt and a few other things, but best POTUS in my lifetime who helped the country rather than hurt it.
Fuck off
F
Incredibly sad. I hope the dead man's switch is real.
Yeah. I expected Epstein to have one
What if Epstein's not dead?
I heard he didn't kill himself.
He definitely got deaded though.
Shalom from Tel Aviv
A switch can activate long after death. McAfee probably has a few ticking away
Maybe stop snorting the Hopium. It doesn't work.
It never worked... Open your eyes instead of constantly saying "one day we'll get them".
with them announcing the extradition, it seems they may have found the switch and deactivated it.
This is what I believe Cicada was for - to recruit those with that set of skills to work for the wrong side.
Even if it is, what makes us believe the best doctor and hax0rs in the world couldn't disable it? Or at least "trick" it into thinking its host is still alive?
That was already released years ago.
6 yrs ago and 3 years ago, there were a few insurance files and a few strange tweets that may have been keys. Were you able to open anything?
But how is he using the switch in jail?
We should extradite Joe Biden to Afghanistan or Iran
It's funny more people love and support Julian Assange... than the pervert pedophile liar illegitimate Joe Biden.
Trump’s biggest mistake.
How so? In my book exposing crimes by the state is an heroic act. Where are the ones doing the spying? They should be the ones punished, not the people exposing their illegal actions. This is so fucking backwards.
Fed, out.
Is that all you do, accuse people of being Feds?
Because that’s exactly what a Fed would do, fucknut.
No it was an incredibly stupid mistake, Trump could only have overcome the 2020 rigging with Assange on the board.
You're getting lots of hate from the Assange fanbois but you're correct. I'll never understand why people here (correctly) hate that tranny traitor Bradley Manning who leaked tons of classified documents, but love Assange who encouraged him to do it and published it all. The mental gymnastics must be Olympian.
Leaking classifed docs is not the same as exposing war crimes
What "war crimes?"
That's what you get charged with after losing a war.
Droning civilians, faggot.
Which ones specifically? You got any source besides regurgitated Occupy Democrats talking points from 15 years ago?
Do you really not know how to use the Internet, you spastic?.
One example of many. Go fuck yourself good and hard, Statist.
EDIT: the spastic instantly downvoted me because his ego couldn't handle being proven wrong. toppest of keks.
Plenty of people here, I'm sure, support both.
While that's less hypocritical, it's even more dumb.
Manning exposed a lot of BS around neocon wars.
Nah, he just indiscriminately copied everything he could get his hands on to leak because he was pissed off that he couldn't be an open Sodomite.
What specifically did he leak that was a problem?
tell me one good thing the us government does then? Why do we support it? Support is earned not given.
Being that the US government constantly and consistently works against the interests of US citizens, you're damned right that those commie fags ruling us should be destroyed. It's perfectly rational to want to throw every single communist out of a helicopter, every pedophile into a woodchipper, and beat the shit out of every useful idiot sympathizer.
You conflate destruction of the deep state with destruction of the government. Who hates Assange more than anyone? The deep state. Assange greatly helped Trump win in 2016, keeping deep stater HRC out of office.
I suppose that's the psychology of it, but the logic of it is: if Assange is a hero, then the man who leaked it to him must be even more of a hero. That man is the tranny traitor Bradley Manning.
Fuck the US government. Assange won't live to see trial, the deep state fucks will kill him. Fuck the UK, US, and anyone who supports this.
statist cuck
I've read and seen what the US government does wikileaks was very enlightening. Regime changes, supportingdictatos like the Khemer Rouge, bombing hospitals and passenger trains, conducting mass surveillance on its own people, drone striking civilians, arming/training terrorists like the Taliban/ISIS, and unjustified invasions of soverign nations under flimsy pretexts. I cannot in good conscience support any of it.
Cope neocon. The US Government is a rogue agent with no accountability and needs to be brought down.
It’s hilarious how everything you post is downvoted to shit.
You just can’t say a single correct thing can you?
Because of the news. Not because you had anything to do with it.
Everything you say of your own volition is beyond retarded.
Fed, OUT!
Well, it is now.
The structural documents remain. We can betray the parasites in power right now and hang them all.
What a simple-minded take. He predominantly exposed neocon war crimes and Dem corruption via whistleblowers. This is what journalists are supposed to do in our society but don't.
Maybe not the best idea to send such a high profile individual to a country where very questionable things happen to high profile individuals while being incarcerated.
They want him dead, so yes, it IS the best idea.
They want him dead and you to know it, so that others will not follow in his footsteps.
I wish Trump would have pardoned him. Last day of his term and a big fuck you to the swamp.
whut? Assange a Russian asset? Trollololol
The Assange is a Russian asset narrative was the same fake news as calling trump a Russian asset. There is no merit to it at all.
No one cares what the dwarf says. He is a neo con.
Imagine signal boosting the half-baked takes of a chickenhawk NeverTrumper that supported the use of Michelle Fields' lies to try to oust Trump's campaign manager.
As usual Shapiro is without substance. That clip provides zero evidence that Assange is a "Russian asset". Give the neocon FUD a rest.
Oh you're a little Benji worshipper, it makes more sense now.
Russian asset, how many times have we heard that one?
RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA! Go suck Stelter’s cock NPC retard
2018 called and wants its Dem talking points back.
Coming to America for court- this should end well…
It will expose and destroy the media that attacks him. I'll never support any media outlet that pushes for Assange to be imprisoned as they're not journalists, but propagandists.
Great - we’ll ‘vote’ em out with that exposure…
The media's trust ratings are at all time lows and at some point they'll be as trustworthy as Pravda to most Americans. It sucks for Assange, but the attention from this will be hard to swipe under the rug and it will seperate the good journalists from the propagandists to many, many Americans. Once the news media is forever distrusted, only then will things massively improve.
Who is going to take on his defense? That should be interesting.
There's precedent in the Pentagon Papers.
He probably shouldn't have fought extradition. Had he been extradited before Jan 2021 he might have had a slightly better chance with the Trump admin
The DOJ was just as corrupt back then. Barr would have been no better than Garland. All swamp.
Exactly. Trump obviously couldn't control the judicial system. He could pardon but God knows what would have happened in between.
They he could have cut a deal with a Trump prosecutor - re: Seth Rich.
He had that chance and chose not to cut that deal already.
Not sure about that. IMHO, he's on ice.
"And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free."
The unofficial motto of the C.I.A.
The lie that will see Assange imprisoned for life.
And yes, that line was evilly appropriated from the Bible. John 8:32.
What they mean is if you know the truth, they'll set your spirit free from your body
Fair and accurate translation! 🎯
I was hoping Trump would pardon
Putin is not our enemy. The Russians are not our enemies. You have been gurgling deep state dick for too long the propaganda is starting to taste good to you.
Russians are not communists. Neither is Urkaine, nor Poland nor the rest of the eastern bloc.
This is plain wrong.
This is nonsense. Everyone during the communist era was forced to be in the communist party. All the kids got little red communist membership books in first grade.
Putin is a Russian nationalist fighting for his people and his country. The west has been screwing over Russia since the fall of the USSR. Our governments keep on promising not to stab them in the Back and at every turn they stab them in the back.
Russia has a 10 000 year old military strategic set of requirements that go deep deep into their history. Because of where the Rus are located they have always been under attack from the east, west and south. Over the last 10k years they have developed a deep deep need for buffer zones. During the cold war the eastern bloc was that buffer zone. When the USSR fell, the west made a whole ton of promises to them in exchange for peace and favour which was basically as set of agreements that they would not move nato forces toward Rus lines and not absorb the eastern bloc into Nato.
What has the west done? Moved Nato lines forward up to the border and absorbed every eastern bloc into Nato.
Except one. Do you know which one? That's right, Ukraine.
Ukraine was about to join nato and even requested nuclear weapons on its land to be placed by the west at a EU meeting. This was all public, recorded, you can find the video online.
The Rus are basically saying enough is enough, no more.
And Putin is standing up for his people. He is a good man doing what should have been done 30 years ago.
The Rus and Ukranians are our friends and we should be looking to forge alliances with them against the turks, muslims, chinese and africans.
The fall of the Soviet Union was tragic for the Russian people. They went from being a super power to a laughing stock with a drunk retard for a president, almost as bad as Biden. Not to mention the oligarchs/gangsters who bought up all of the property. The fall of the Soviet Union was not great for Russia. The lifespan for men fell like 6 years something crazy like that. Not saying the Soviet Union was good, but the way the Russian Federation was set up was a huge failure.
Found the glowie
If you tell the truth, you are the enemy of many of the world's current governments. It's almost like they took "he who smelled it dealt it" and applied it to crime.
As such Julian Assange is held to be criminally responsible for revealing the truth of war crimes which pretty much amounts to genocide..... while those that actually perpetrated them, walk free ánd continue ruling in such a perverted way that they get courts to rule in favor of things like these.
Julian Assange violated no laws, but American laws, which do not apply to him.
And We the people do nothing and let this evil be
Hmm, I emigrated to a better country after years of meaningless petitions, when I saw protests were getting cracked down on illegally in the Netherlands. Here in Norway, I have organized protests, given half a dozen speeches, some of which in Norwegian, which I learned in record pace.
I joined a union, I have financially contributed to many causes and been personally assaulted for being "an idiot" in Stavanger, I kept my cool and we avoided escalation.
In every way peacible way posible, I will resist this kind of evil.
You appear to be dumb.
What does that have to do with anything?
Damn dude, you’re like a celebrity now, ain’tcha?
All those security cameras. So many malfunctions. Pity.
Free Assange
No trump didn't pardon him because he tried to make a deal where Assange would expose his source and Assange said no. Trump plays hardball and if you turn down a deal cold he'll go scorched earth on you, which is what happened. Art of the deal, next time he comes to the table with Assange he'll get what he wants. Or he will if they don't Epstein him first.
He has no ties to Russia in fact. You are spreading fake news.
Another "suicide" for the DC gulag
As a Brit, I am ashamed or my own government.
It's about to get real on the interwebs.
HIT THE DEADMAN SWITCH ALREADY
I guess the problem with that is, if there is one, that if you use dead man switch while you are living you guarantee that you will become a dead man since you gave up all your leverage.
Fair point, but what does he have left?
His life, diminished though it is, and the hope of a miracle.
Exposing information is literally the worst crime ever...
Assange should be freed!! Snowden should be pardoned!!
Trumps big mistake was not pardoning assange and snowden. I can't give him a pass on that. He listened to those sabotaging fucks at the CIA.
Pray for him. This is where DJT really f’ed up. Bigly.
I honestly thought this was already a done deal in the winter time. Trump should have pardoned him instead of the rappers that hate us.
Lil Wayne came out in support of GEOTUS in the 2020 election, so the left revived a decade-old gun charge to prosecute him with in retaliation. That’s why he got pardoned, because the left literally wanted to jail him for supporting the President.
Holy fuck, do people have any clue what they’re talking about anymore?
I’m glad you asked! - No.
Lmao OP a bootlicking statist cuck.
I'm not really educated on the whole Assange thing, I know the very basics but what does this actually mean? will he get any type of trial or is he just gonna be locked away and Epstein'd?
shit, that means it would a federal case as well no there will be no real record of it and no way to watch/listed to either side.
It's all about the Hunter Biden laptop.
The Uniparty doesn’t even care about appearing to be good anymore. They’re going to stuff as many unpopular things into their agenda as possible this presidency because they know they have a demented president who is too demented to care about his legacy. And then when Biden is done all the Dems and Rinos will claim that they never supported any of it and it was all Biden. Kamala knows she was used and is just trying to take her fame and money and get out at this point, prob with a book deal.
He’s going to be killed, cameras will malfunction and it’s going to be Epstein all over again
Nahh it's going to be a heart attack gun .
I'm hoping Wiki might have a little something in the files to dump out while the lights are shining brightly on Assange. Something the MSM might not want to talk about?
https://greatawakening.win/p/15HbWlqDnF/kim-dotcom-doubles-down--claims-/c/
Oh. Thanks for this. I missed it entirely
Go with me here...
Assange essentially is a prisoner right now. If he gets extradited to the US before 2025, he would be held until a trial (right?) and would end up in a federal prison. While prison is not a great place to be, he's essentially a prisoner right now.
So, he gets extradited and is in US custody. If he doesn't get suicided, Trump 2025 could commute his sentence and make Assange a free man. I don't think Assange would be pardoned because, truthfully, the WikiLeaks is illegal because it makes classified information public, but it also exposes highly unethical stuff. This is the bad part about it... in order to try to get the unethical stuff to end, it needs to be exposed, which is illegal. It's a cycle, and Assange is the fall guy.
I can't say I agree with what WikiLeaks is doing because it is unethical and illegal... but damn, it's important what they are doing as well. It's a contradiction, and we have to come to terms with a contradiction, we have to choose one or the other. Both cannot co-exist. And because of this, I think it's more important to expose the unethical behavior than it is to keep their documents secret.
Assange, I'm on your side, I hope you become a free man... you are a hero and taking the arrows. It's falling on deaf ears, lots of people don't care about the corruption, but most of us here do.
Are we in hell
Starting to think we actually all did die from net neutrality
Our DOJ is a bunch of crooks. DS getting an opportunity for "protests" ,etc. to create a s...t show & conveniently hog "top of the fold"?
For the record, Assange didn’t kill himself
Trump should have taken this opportunity.
This one is on President Trump. I WILL NEVER FORGIVE PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR THIS.
I love President Trump, but this, he will never live down.
Well you better blame Julian then, because an offer was on the table and he refused it. You can’t pardon somebody who doesn’t want one.
Julian is not a US citizen. America has had Julian under house arrest for 10 YEARS and he has been in the most vile prisons of all in the Uk for a bunch of years now.
A man that has been tortured for 10+ years has the right to make whatever decision he wants and I get to blame President Trump for being a spineless and characterless pussy.
Sorry, you are a faggot making excuses for evil.
Assange could face a 175-year sentence for exposing war crimes. The decision will now move to UK's Home Secretary for approval. The defense has until May 18 to make submissions.
Watch the video!
https://nitter.dark.fail/disclosetv/status/1516721774347571203?s=20&t=TS2LaUKa61BTYZBg-CWJJg
I can't believe Trump didn't pardon Assange and Snowden.
Same here!!
Were they trying to destroy America?
Trump should have pardoned him (and Snowden) when he had the chance.
And Assange should have been more open about who killed Seth Rich. Now it's too late. It's like those movies where an informant calls from a phone booth and insists on meeting you to tell you the killer is..... AAAAHAHAHGHGHGHG!
Feels like winning huh guys?
This is entirely Assange's fault. He has the key to his release. His name was Seth Rich.
May God have mercy on his soul. The Deep State is going to torture and murder him.
He isn’t a US citizen so what is he guilty of?
I’m not sure we can force everyone in the world to be beholden to our laws.
Is this some treaty we have with another country? I’m trying to understand what legal standing they have.
THIS, or else next thing you know we are getting extradited to North Korea for some made up bullshit.
I’m mostly interested in applying this law to Canadians. See, I plan to trick them into violating something legal in Canada, but illegal here. Then I can say, “Listen up you maple syrup loving son of a bitch! You violated US law! Now we’re coming for you!”
Now we can just jail any political dissident and not just our own protestors!
This is going to be a valuable tool once the democrats resume operation World Police!
The true crime isn't anything Assange did, but the way he has been treated.
Slight bit of nerding: this isn't how extradition works in the UK and OP's wording is a bit misleading. What happens now is her case is the Home Secretary looks at it, and makes the decision. That doesn't always mean "yes", because it's political (executive, not judicial). For example, the law prevents her from extraditing anyone who could receive a sentence of death, suffer torture, get an unfair sentence, or where the suicide risk is high.
The likelihood is she'll agree it to get the problem off UK hands, but Assange has a lot of legal help. After that, he can appeal her decision in the courts. This will just go on, and on, and on, and on.
Hanging in jail cell incoming!
What did he even do wrong??