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deletedandreacted 185 points ago +187 / -2

Maybe even more people will see the hypocrisy of the left, but maybe that is too optimistic.

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NotJudging 109 points ago +109 / -0

If Bill Maher can say he'll vote Republican if the Dems keep this up you know there are tons more that are making the switch

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America_No_1 79 points ago +82 / -3

To be fair - the right was a shitshow of a party before Trump/MAGA too and I think it was by design. They kept associating the right with Christianity more and more to the point where they were kinda how the left is now where you toe the line or GTFO. I am a Christian, but I hated this tight tie...Trump MAGA made it about freedom of the individual to do as he please - don't tread on me...more of a libertarian approach that Ron Paul gave us a taste of. A delicious taste.

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leakmouth 59 points ago +59 / -0

It’s not even right versus left anymore. It’s pretty much sane versus insane

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gsharm 10 points ago +11 / -1

Always has been.

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DCdeplorable 9 points ago +9 / -0

In my lifetime its always felt like insane vs insane... Trump encouraged more "regular people" to try and enter govt then ive ever seen

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King5150 3 points ago +3 / -0

Pedo Degenerates vs Joe The Plumber types.

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Barrysstash 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bongino says it right when he says republicans may not always be the solution but we know that democrats are the cause of all of the problems

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mbman76 1 point ago +1 / -0

Evil vs. Slightly Less Evil

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Mangomangomango89 17 points ago +23 / -6

Libertarian government is not sustainable. If you don't take moral stands based on a foundation of Christianity things become more and more evil. Line and let live doesn't work with Satan running around trying to create as much death as possible

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HiddenDekuScrub 7 points ago +7 / -0

I think the problem with libertarianism (And I use the "small l", because I feel most are along these lines) is that you need to be willing to enforce that libertarianism. Some, unfortunately, may see this as a paradox.

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immortal 6 points ago +6 / -0

buy gold?

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thunderpussy 2 points ago +2 / -0

LMAO!

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okboomer59 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are you talking about anCaps?

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TheRedPilledArtist 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm an Independent but more libertarian by values than anything else. Let me answer: we're okay with violence in self-defense. Most of us love guns, too.

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Fundles 6 points ago +8 / -2

The government is the biggest demon around. A libertarian government is a small government, incapable of global satanism. You put too much trust in a massive, inherently corrupt institution.

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Mangomangomango89 6 points ago +10 / -4

I don't trust government, but the people in government should only be those that have a clear Christian faith and moral standard. It doesn't matter what your governing document says if you have amoral creeps in charge of interpretating and enforcing it

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cryogen 3 points ago +7 / -4

Christian and moral are not synonymous

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Mangomangomango89 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yes they absolutely are. There is no moral standard outside of God, just relative chaos

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MAGA_Toaster 0 points ago +5 / -5

☝️Found the degenerate simp porn cuck

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byteplumber 2 points ago +2 / -0

👑

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TrannyClausSliceDice 1 point ago +1 / -0

Agreed but unfortunately that ABSOLUTELY isn’t the case anymore and never ever will be again.

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America_No_1 5 points ago +6 / -1

I think Libertarians hide behind a lot of inherent flaws too. Don't take my usage of that word as an endorsement but some of the concepts were new and refreshing after an onslaught of nanny state authoritarianism

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BloodElfSupporter 11 points ago +11 / -0

At this point I think it’s fair to say our biggest enemy is the globalists. Everything else is secondary.

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MakeAmericaZimbabe 1 point ago +1 / -0

We need Libertarians to piss off Progressives.

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TheRedPilledArtist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Already did it. Lost friends. Am happier now. Win.

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becky21k1 -5 points ago +1 / -6

The libertarian has some good ideas but he seems to be unable to grasp that not everyone thinks as he does and people will take advantage if you do what the libertarian asks.

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TheRedPilledArtist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Libertarians are okay with fighting back in defense. Did you not know that?

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becky21k1 -4 points ago +2 / -6

Sure but they won't make alliances so they end up fighting one on however many others come along

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GodEmperor2024 3 points ago +3 / -0

Libertarianism is still liberalism. It's a trick of the enemy to prevent right wing people from being organized and using the government for our own ends.

The culture of a society cannot be preserved from the subversion of foreign elements without the force of the government. If you still haven't understood this, you've not been paying attention in the last few years.

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Mangomangomango89 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree that culture needs lawmakers in government that agree with that culture and will fight to defend it

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jsmith81 -3 points ago +2 / -5

Satan isn't real buddy. It's a story lol

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Mangomangomango89 1 point ago +2 / -1

I think there is ample evidence of evil in the world. Perhaps you mean "stories" like how nothing exploded and created everything? Or how random collisions of molecules created a sophisticated genetic code?

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jsmith81 -1 points ago +1 / -2

No I mean stories like a fictional book that only the most retarded low-IQ dumbfuck would actually believe in.

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Mangomangomango89 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yeah, I guess I'm an idiot seeing as you were there before Moses compiled the Torah and personally witnessed that those events didn't occur

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Emperorvoid 5 points ago +6 / -1

THANK YOU! I applaud this!

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shadypollster 4 points ago +8 / -4

Yah I ama Christian too and frankly cringed at the religious right.

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MobileDev4Trump 3 points ago +4 / -1

You spelled Corporatists wrong. Lots of Ayn Rand worshipping globalist on the right side of. The uniparty.

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America_No_1 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah for sure - that was another STRANGE aspect of the Republican old guard. We are Christians! Also: Let's go keep that war machine going till infinity! War war war! Fuck off. Ron Paul shed a light on this shitshow too

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AJoeDD 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Republicans are going to be the main problem to fix. We'll need to make sure any ex-Democrats know they need to really be ex-uniparty, voting MAGA, not Republican.

I totally believe the Maher types are going to switch in large numbers, hence the preparation of deepstate uniparty frauds. With people like Mehmet Oz getting into the Republican party, who'd be joining Graham, Romney, and McCarthy, the Democratic platform of the last few years will be waiting for them under a different name.

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Swolehas 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bill Maher is only voting for democrats

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SlapUp4 0 points ago +2 / -2

He's a fucking liar.

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ChuckedBeef 61 points ago +61 / -0

I've never met a "right winger" who had any problem with Twitter allowing anyone to post anything. They aren't the people who have a problem with free speech, it's ALL the left. The 80% in the "middle" includes all "right wingers" is what I'm trying to say. The other 20% (probably an inflated number too) are LEFTISTS. Twitter took the small percentage of radical leftist anti-American pieces of shit and amplified their voices with fake trending pushes and thousands of bots echoing their bullshit.

Oh by the way, those are also the people running the government. Absolute scum of the earth.

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CmonPeopleGetReal 28 points ago +28 / -0

Exactly, Elon is using very specific language here, but knows that there aren't 20% of the right is gonna pissed. We have never gave a shit about the left being allowed to spew their garbage.

T_D was about as "far right" as you can get (according to their standards) and i never once heard for the calling of the banning of /r/news or /r/politics

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davidmode 29 points ago +29 / -0

Agreed, why would we want the left banned? I want everyone to see their absolute nonsense

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Micio 20 points ago +20 / -0

This comment is extremely underrated. I don’t want ANYONE suspended because I want their ridiculousness to be publicly archived for all to see.

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LostMyPWinMyBoyPussy 7 points ago +7 / -0

Exactly. You give credence to lies when you silence them. Let them compete in the marketplace of ideas and be crushed by the truth. All I've ever wanted was for our voices to be heard.

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thunderpussy 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly. It is precisely BECAUSE the left is so visible that even some liberals are recoiling from them......

The more people see what the left truly is, the more they run from it..........

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RStroud 14 points ago +14 / -0

In an open, uncensored, unmoderated, forum the left usually suffers. If they can't ban users, remove posts, or down vote posts to oblivion they get confronted with things that causes them cognitive dissonance. Rather than engage they withdraw. That behavior largely defines who they are.

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thunderpussy 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm convinced that leftism is some sort of juvenile arrested development or something.

They literally behave like toddlers in their rejection of reality, their childish narcissism, tantrums, and a pathological need for attention, etc.

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DrJosephWarren 8 points ago +8 / -0

T_D.....was beautiful. And it had NO BRAKES.

We coming out of this tunnel right here.

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thunderpussy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah...the good old days. Takes me back.

I still miss the brick bot.....

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FakeNametag 6 points ago +6 / -0

Where would we get our laughs if not from leftists broadcasting their retarded ideas. Meanwhile I'm not worried if someone laughs at what I have to say.

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QuickMaths 6 points ago +6 / -0

The left likes to accuse us of censorship because we boycott commie shitbag companies like Disney. They’re the ones who love censorship and they can’t even tell the difference between censoring an individual and choosing not to do business with a corrupt company of evil people.

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HunterLuvsCrack 11 points ago +11 / -0

We are the majority. A lot of people are silent in worry of getting in trouble or don’t pay attention enough. I’m starting to think we had to go through this terrible/awakening moment for people to really see. I’m trying to see these years will change a lot for the future but we shall see. We need more outsiders to stand up in politics with MAGA ideology no more establishment. I myself have become inspired to get involved with politics. Start small, poll watcher/worker from there further up the chain. We need to get involved more all of us.

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TheRedPilledArtist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Working the midterm elections in just a few days, fren! Let's keep up the good work!

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Colonel_Chestbridge 9 points ago +9 / -0

He probably thinks 4chan levels of free speech is the extreme 10% of the right.

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BeerAndCope 4 points ago +4 / -0

Right, he’s not going to let Twitter turn into 4 Chan. I suppose that would piss off 4 chaners and they would be considered the right.

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Some_Rando_Web_Dev 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's why we have Patriots.. They give us the "Best of" 4chan without the need to sift through stuff. Hence, we can all use multiple platforms and get the truth. When we have guys from 4chan doing their thing, we get ammunition to use on other platforms like Twitter, it's all good folks, we got this!

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LostMyPWinMyBoyPussy 2 points ago +2 / -0

There were certainly a bunch of book burning Righties back in the day. Those people dead and gone. I mean, hell, I'm cool if the sickos want to discuss trying to groom kids on Twitter, just, you know, confine it to Twitter and not the class room. If they want to whine that they can't "educate" folks about being "minor attracted" (pedophile) online on Twitter, fine. I really don't think you will have that many people on the right crying out to ban those people, let them expose themselves.

Honestly, I don't want to silence voices on the left, they invalidate their own opinions by speaking outloud.

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GodEmperor2024 0 points ago +1 / -1

Let them expose themselves? They are grooming children on twitter and other social media! And you want to let them do it???

And FYI in case you were referring to the book burning of the NSDAP, they burned books advocating transgenderism and other filth. The burning was more than justified

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +4 / -3

Please, the Torba types have a problem with free speech.

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MAGA_Centurion 1 point ago +1 / -0

Boomers here love Torba and his ilk's banning of speech and will defend it.

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GodEmperor2024 1 point ago +1 / -0

Of course. Only a fool would give freedom of speech to his enemies.

The leftists want us dead, do you understand that? Do you understand that we're in a war for our survival?

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MAGA_Centurion 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's cool. You just aren't pro free speech. We get it. You're just an authoritarian faggot.

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UndercoverSpez 21 points ago +21 / -0

Good arguments beat bad ones, so this without a doubt will be better for us in the long run.

For some reason I have a hunch that populism beats establishment politics in the long run

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CmonGubMintGibMe 15 points ago +15 / -0

Of course it does... being proud of your country and home isn't evil. The left knows this. They just don't want their gravy trains to end.

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UndercoverSpez 12 points ago +12 / -0

Yeah no shit

24 hours in and the Biden administration talks of 230 reform.

48 hours in and the Biden administration creates the "Disinformation Governance Board"

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Petes_Agate_Israel 5 points ago +5 / -0

A.K.A The Ministry of Truth

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current_horror 5 points ago +5 / -0

Leftists took over every institution in the country without making a single good argument.

Rhetoric is all that matters.

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TheScream 9 points ago +9 / -0

I think we underestimate the number of people who get good information. Not everyone knows where to go. (like here)

So that means, yes, people will see the hypocrisy if we are un-gagged.

That is why they are freaking out.

And Ben Shapiro using Reeeeeee? That means HE knows where to go.

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TheRedPilledArtist 1 point ago +1 / -0

We don't tend to go on Facebook or Twitter but that's about to change, at least with the latter. The open discourse shall begin!

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HuntersTalkingPenis 5 points ago +5 / -0

Most already see but the goal of propaganda is to make it seem like your views are the minority. That YOU are the one who is crazy.

This is why they fight for control, even if twitter was 60% bots it was doing its job.

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thunderpussy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bingo.

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RussianRobot 117 points ago +117 / -0

Take a second and realize that you are feeling relieved because at least one figure on that public stage uses logic and appears to be relatively sane.

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MoreTorbaLessKushner 43 points ago +43 / -0

I haven't felt this amount of weight lifted off my shoulders since the 2016 election.

This is what we've all been waiting for! We actually managed to get our hands on TWITTER. We literally hijacked the Left's favorite propaganda platform. And not only that, the original owner (Jack) gave Elon his approval.

Let that sink in.

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Dicebag 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'm sure Elon can afford better hitmen than the CIA's government employees. Don't forget how wasteful and incompetent government is.

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Amaroq64 4 points ago +4 / -0

They can be quite competent when they need to fuck over someone.

Saboteurs just pretend to be incompetent so we'll keep letting them be saboteurs.

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MobileDev4Trump 5 points ago +5 / -0

The original owners were tricked by Jack into selling their shares to him. Twitter was a break off of some podcasting company and Jack convinced them that Twitter was a dumb idea and they should sell that part of the company to him.

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Newuser99 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's a good day to crack a few beers by the pool

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leatherbottom 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah but that approval does make me suspect.

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TheRedPilledArtist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Elon seems trustworthy and natural. He doesn't seem like a deep-state faker. But let's stay skeptical. Healthy skepticism is good.

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toasty867 10 points ago +10 / -0

He is using Calculus. Something most lefties don't understand 😉

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rebuildingMyself 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because math is a tool of white supremacy, shitlord! REEEE

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toasty867 6 points ago +6 / -0

Lol seriously all the lefties I know are artists (nothing wrong with that) and business majors which mostly dropped out of engineering cuz the math was too hard (went to an engineering school). Fucking pussies. And they STILL scream about their MBA and how smart they are 🤦‍♂️

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timmytongaa 3 points ago +3 / -0

I’m in STEM and higher education. A lot of them are lefties (see sillicon valley). The right wingers here generally stay quiet. With the mask thing, the lefties show themselves a lot more.

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toasty867 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same here pede! Teach math at a CC (full timer). I moved from Michigan down south. Soooooo much happier. The other math and science faculty are righties and/or independents like me. Admin is a million times better too. None of that "woke" PD bs

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Tardigrade 3 points ago +3 / -0

The mathematics of change.

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toasty867 3 points ago +3 / -0

^ this pede knows 😉

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todiwan 1 point ago +1 / -0

If he knew calculus, he would not have designed the "hyperloop" or tried to reinvent the tunnel a thousand times over.

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Isolated_Patriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's the same feeling I had in 2016. So at the moment we are looking at two people in the public sphere, with power and influence, who are acting sane. One of which had most of his power stolen, and the new one is "eccentric" enough I find it hard to trust.

So it's still pretty tentative on the relief.

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talltellmanson 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly, none of this is OK and should not be a relief .

Theyre shifting the overton window for Elon Musk, Tim pool and Ben Shapiro to be the new far right.

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DireCarbon 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think the overton window is shifting on everyone of its own.

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Howabsolutelydareu 70 points ago +71 / -1

Who is actually “in the middle” these days?

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jdog 90 points ago +90 / -0

Technically we are the middle. The extreme left has just taken over all content and tried to convince people they are the middle.

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swift_water 40 points ago +44 / -4

I'm pretty far right bro. You can be the middle if you'd like though. I've noticed too much.

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ItsBigLeagueNotBigly 35 points ago +35 / -0

The middle from 15 years ago is now considered the far right.

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publius1788 14 points ago +14 / -0

That's how I feel. I would have been like a moderate Republican with some Libertarian leanings like 20 years ago. Now I am "LiTeRalLy A nAzI!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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HuntersTalkingPenis 14 points ago +14 / -0

funny thing, if you were literally a nazi, you'd be far left.

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Hades440 5 points ago +5 / -0

Nazi's weren't particularly far Left though. They were at least Middle Left enough that they're right of the modern Left.

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allmyhonks 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oscar Wilde was right of the modern Left.

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SaddleTramp 1 point ago +2 / -1

What's an actual nazi?

The Western elite class?

Azov?

NatSocs?

Rabid Anti semites?

Satan worshiping trannies?

Eugenicists of all kinds?

Ultranationalist racialists?

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Dicebag 7 points ago +8 / -1

National Socialists. It's literally the name.

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HuntersTalkingPenis 2 points ago +2 / -0

To take a page from the left, whomever identifies as one.

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MAGA_Toaster 1 point ago +2 / -1

Disrespect sHitler on here and you'll meet a few. They REEEEE fast and loud.

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Necalli 3 points ago +4 / -1

Now I'm literally a nazi. Gone from thinking Bernie was a half decent choice in 2015 to supporting trump 2016 and now in 2022 thinking the world would've been better if Germany won ww2. It has been a wild ride to the right. Learned way too much.

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GodEmperor2024 2 points ago +2 / -0

Genuine left leaning people who truly care about making society better for everyone are just one redpill on the Jewish Question away from becoming National Socialists.

The main problem is selfish lolbertarians that only care about paying less taxes and don't give a shit about the rest of society. Those are the true useful idiots because if you only care about yourself you cannot be a patriot and you'll never fight because you don't believe in anything bigger than yourself.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Proving that national socialism is a left-wing ideology.

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ShyRipley 2 points ago +2 / -0

right???

I've been sorta libertarian (small L) in the middle for ages. Leaned left on some things, right on others. In 2015 I embraced Trump and have voted straight R since in support, because MAGA. That's when I discovered I was "LiTeRalLy A nAzI!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I love America, I love our American flag, I hold our Constitution near and dear to my heart. Which makes me an "eXtrEaMisT" and a threat. Lawd have mercy.

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HarmfulNipples -1 points ago +1 / -2

If I don't pray and kneel, I am told by some republicans that I am "LiTeRalLy A cLoSeT dEmOcRaT", so I guess I am externally defined as in the middle for not following the magic man in the sky.

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FuckU/Spez 4 points ago +4 / -0

Look at me! Voted for Bill C, I still believe in the same stuff he ran on... now that makes me a right winger.

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NADSAQ 1 point ago +1 / -0

The middle from 15 years ago didn’t have Right Wing Death Squads as a party platform... I do.

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xkgb 10 points ago +10 / -0

Bruh, I'm alt-center ...

🎵 Clowns to the left of me 🎵

🎵 Jokers to the right 🎵

🎵 Here I am 🎵

🎵 Stuck in the middle with you 🎵

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stjimmy92 2 points ago +2 / -0

This song hits different in the 2020s

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RPD2 4 points ago +4 / -0

You're in the middle too. As far as I can see, having and keeping at least a few majority white (90-95%+) countries is actually very middle of the road in the grand scheme of things. We need to reverse the demographic change happening.

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swift_water 0 points ago +3 / -3

Trust me. I'm pretty fuckin far right.

I'm in the "what needs to be done" camp.

If you're in the middle you're in the "modern 'civilized' man" camp.

I am ready to do what needs to be done. You are playing politics.

And that's okay. You guys go have your turn. We're just ahead of the curve. When you're ready to do what needs to be done, we'll be here.

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potbelliedgoblino 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think what OP means by “the middle” is just reason/common sense. Don’t kill babies, don’t let criminals free, don’t allow an invasion, don’t grift taxdollars, don’t tax absurdly (or at all), don’t destroy our currency, etc. Even technical anarchy is essentially common sense within the “laws” of mutual understanding. Far left/right are just different versions of authoritarianism. And there are some good arguments for some of those, like the benevolent dictator/monarchies, but they’re functionally academic as that’s an extreme and unrealistic response to a situation that seemingly could be solved by utilizing reason within our current framework. I’m not trying to dissuade, but I do think OP is right about the vast majority being “in the middle,” including much of this site.

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swift_water 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh he's right the majority are.

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GodEmperor2024 -1 points ago +2 / -3

Far left/right are just different versions of authoritarianism.

You assume authoritarianism is a problem only because you're left wing.

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todiwan 1 point ago +2 / -1

Retarded government dicksucking cuck.

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TheRedPilledArtist 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't even consider myself "extreme" in any way when it comes to the political spectrum. But I am also increasingly ready to do what needs to be done.

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RPD2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, I was thinking more of goals, and maybe you're thinking more the methods required to obtain those goals.

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Litterboxer1 -1 points ago +1 / -2

So do something about it and stop complaining on the internet.

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swift_water 1 point ago +1 / -0

Where did you see me complain? The long game has always been the only way it would work. Politics works in cycles of 4 years in this country and it doesn't matter.

The 80 year cycle is more important but not the one you should be focused on.

I'll be over here with the others when you're ready.

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Litterboxer1 -2 points ago +1 / -3

Seriously what have you done in real life? It's so pathetic seeing people acting so tough on here. Thinking Jesus, a Jew, is going to solve all their problems.

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ShanghaiJoe 3 points ago +4 / -1

Right there with you. We both know exactly what ''far right'' material will still be censored on Twitter and it will be very telling.

It'll just be even more proof we are right on target. See how long you can go naming before you get the boot. The harder truths will still get censored i'm betting.

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ModernKnight 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Far right" would be believing all illegal immigrants should be executed, and their bodies displayed to deter others. "Far right" would not be wanting homosexuals and trannies to go into the closet, but to just kill them. "Far right" would be wanting to get rid of all non-whites in the USA, regardless of their beliefs or culture. "Far right" would be removing franchise for women entirely. "Far right" would be getting rid of any and all social programs, and making the federal government as small as possible.

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ModernKnight 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm in the "far right" on some issues, and I'm "centrist" on other issues, and the rest I'm somewhere between the two. For instance, I think the vast majority of illegals should be deported, but those who have raped, murdered, engaged in child trafficking, etc. can serve as dancing pole ornaments on the border.

I'm fine with women having franchise, so long as they choose to engage in the required responsibility. I'd prefer there be a woman-only vote on this, where they can keep franchise but would be part of the draft, or they stay out of the draft and lose franchise. This vote would best be done either when there is an active draft or when there is the threat of one going into effect, as women are more likely to make an emotional decision based on what is happening immediately around them.

With social programs and government size, I'm pretty much as far right as can be. Get rid of every and all social programs, and reduce the federal government to military (and cut out any unnecessary things from that), diplomacy with other nations, maintenance of our borders, and a forum for the States to solve their problems with each other.

With armaments of the population, if the government has it, we should be able to buy it as well, so I'm pretty much as far right as can be there.

The above post wasn't trying to push any given "solution," just doing my best to get people to realize where on the political spectrum they are. There's been so much shifting of the Overton Window over the past few decades that most people don't even know where they stand.

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todiwan 1 point ago +2 / -1

If you think this place, with its literal neo-Nazis, literal "women shouldn't vote" clowns, brainlets who insult our intelligence by hating trans/gay/black people (who are basically used against us as a weapon against their own will) is in any way "in the middle", or in any way inside of the "actual sane people" part of the political isle, you're smoking something.

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jdog 1 point ago +1 / -0

There are no NeoNazis or racists here. People joke about blacks and gays but for the most part people here want everyone to be treated equally, nothing wrong with joking. Many MAGA gays and MAGA blacks are praised on this site. I find that very middle of the road. There is no such thing as trans, just male or female. That is also a middle position. Actual "sane" people understand all this. You seem to be buying into the exact left wing propaganda I was originally talking about.

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todiwan 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are just straight up wrong, patriots and KIA2 are literally filled with psychopathic neonazis and rabid racists. That's how it SHOULD be, the way you describe it, but it's not.

And uh, yeah, there are just male and female, I know. Trans people transition between those, because their brains correspond structurally to the opposite sex.

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jdog 1 point ago +1 / -0

You must not be on this site much.

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301_567 20 points ago +20 / -0

A lot of libs think they’re in the center and don’t realize they’re libs.

The “I’m for the second amendment, but…” types

The “if that were true it would be on the news” types

The “muh democracy” types

The “did you watch that sportsball game last night?” types

The “hate speech should be illegal” types

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Donger-Lord2 15 points ago +15 / -0

The blind and deaf.

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gthog61 6 points ago +6 / -0

and cowardly - "moderate" is a nice way of saying too gutless to take any position that might offend someone with a pen or a microphone.

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BatmanForTrump 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly

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Totally_Not_FBI 4 points ago +4 / -0

Apathetic, clueless normies.

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BibleProphecyFulfill 51 points ago +51 / -0

"When you're used to preferential treatment, equal treatment feels like discrimination." - Thomas Sowell

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glazierbuckle 13 points ago +13 / -0

I prefer to use the progressive version: "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." It was practically a progressive slogan for a while. It really grinds their gears when their language is used against them.

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Senaleb 40 points ago +40 / -0

how could the right be unhappy? Twitter has fucked us 100% for 5 years.

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tom_machine 13 points ago +13 / -0

I’ll take a little unhappy over miserable / unable to say anything

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TheChillConservative 4 points ago +4 / -0

That’s been their continued goal though… make us so unhappy and astonished by their proposals and implementation of insane policies that we’re totally complacent with slightly less insane ones as they inch us ever closer into being totally controlled. They’ve moved the bar so low with our expectations of our government, our rights, our media, etc, that we find ourselves conceding being “a little unhappy”as they continue to manipulate the masses and expand their agenda slowly but surely. We need to stop being so dang complacent and actually stand firm in our constitutional demands and God given rights.

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tom_machine 2 points ago +2 / -0

I mean, I’m a little unhappy that I have to workout in order to be in shape. I still do it. If it’s that kind of unhappy, then bring it on.

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TheChillConservative 2 points ago +2 / -0

That doesn’t really factor in the complacency aspect. A better comparison would be “I’m a little unhappy that my wife is inviting her boss over once a week to get plugged while I’m at work but I’ll take being a little unhappy because at least she’s not inviting the warehouse crew to come with anymore”

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tom_machine 1 point ago +1 / -0

So far people seem to be posting just about whatever they want on there. If that remains to be the case then nobody’s wife is getting fucked here

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grapenuts 5 points ago +5 / -0

I think hes referring to the types that want REVENGE. Or possibly, the types that thinks it's going to be a complete trolling free for all ala 4chan.

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Throwingway22 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well, it's a foreigner billionaire globalist basically just saying that he'll pause the beatings. Is it good? Sure. But it's not exactly winning anything.

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AslanFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think he's wrong about that. Most I know on the right are firm in their convictions and don't mind honest debate. What pisses us off is being muted and censored.

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Lapstrake 21 points ago +21 / -0

My goal is to maximize area under the curve of total human happiness, which means ~80% of people in the middle.

Kudos if true, Elon.

Hard to believe that you gave away half your fortune to buy twitter because you thought it was the best way to make the world a better place, but hey, I'm not complaining.

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ciaramella_is_gay 15 points ago +15 / -0

Meh, even with half left he still has more fuck you money than 99% of the humans that ever existed.

If anything, this money has bought him even more people talking about him. Literally the most talked about person in the world right now.

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ButterGolemsAhoy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Try 99.9999999999%

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censored4wrongthink 8 points ago +9 / -1

He spent 44b out of 264b

he is still sitting on 220b

beating the second most richest man by 43b

he didn't "give" anything and even if he did it was a relatively small amount

thats how rich the dude is - i love that "we" 'get' him lmao

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im_out 11 points ago +11 / -0

He financed 13B but gained an asset the market has deemed to be 44B so his net worth didn’t change actually

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censored4wrongthink 2 points ago +2 / -0

Damn solid take lol

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Isolated_Patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

^^^^ He done wallstreeted that biach.

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Lapstrake 1 point ago +2 / -1

44b out of 264b is not a 'small amount'.

And I assume this money is tied up in the stock market, which could change overnight.

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AslanFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right. Net worth ≠ ready cash.

Of course, he did sell all of his homes and I hear is burning up CouchSurfing.com.

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BatmanForTrump 5 points ago +5 / -0

He didn't "give it away", it's still an investment he'll get a return on, truly rich people that understand how to use money rarely spend money, almost all they're "spending" is an investment

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Mr_Fister 2 points ago +2 / -0

He has never wanted to hold money. He dumped nearly everything he made from zip2 into PayPal. And everything from that into Tesla, etc.. he likes spending it to move on to his next move

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Magos 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wasn't half. He was worth 260 billion, payed 44.

Tesla dropped 10%. But for everyone that means Tesla stock's on sale. He'll be fine.

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DoozerChuck 20 points ago +20 / -0

Unhappy? All we want is an even playing field

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Kingslayer 7 points ago +7 / -0

The left can't allow that, they can't win on an even playing field. This is why I'm optimistic for the future, hopefully this Twitter thing is one of many dominos.

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crazyfingers619 13 points ago +13 / -0

Is this really fucking happening? A few weeks ago everything felt like it was going down the tubes. Is this insane horse shit finally turning around??

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Cuetardian 14 points ago +14 / -0

Could be, but the Biden usurpers just announced the Ministry of Truth this afternoon. For real.

Elon seems to have been A New Hope, but now The Swamp Strikes Back

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Barbs 9 points ago +9 / -0

Those of us who have seen societal shifts before have been trying to keep everybody from taking the black pill, because it’s usually when everything seems utterly hopeless that change finally happens.

I’ve seen it happen twice now. This time the left overplayed their hand in a big way, and now the sleeping giants have awoken.

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Specter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Things are still way too comfortable. nothing is going to come easy. Corporate ESG, social credit score, one world digital currency is all coming

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Isolated_Patriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Just don't think too hard about the fact that they just turned CERN back on.

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Omnishambles 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hard to say. My gut says it's happening but it's not a done deal yet. Some trading organization are saying he has a 1-in-3 chance of closing on the deal.

Edit: the 1-in-3 comes from bloomberg, so make of that what you will. If either party backs out of the deal they pay 1 billion, so that's another factor.

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glazierbuckle 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not until we start watching public trials.

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try4gain 8 points ago +8 / -0

2005 middle is today's KKK rally

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AnthraciteCracker 9 points ago +9 / -0

Where is in the middle when one side mainstreams grooming?

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talltellmanson 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is the problem.

I won't compromise to allow "only" 6yh grade and above to cut off their dicks instead of K-3

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Isolated_Patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's a good question. Because I'm not convinced anything short of the woodchipper plan is actually a win.

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Gesirisi 8 points ago +8 / -0

If this means outlawing words like Faggot, Nigra, Kike, etc.. I will understand. I dont think those words should be outlawed but its not a make or break situation for me.

If this means outlawing certain VIEWS, or facts from being discussed, such as the holocaust, I will not be making an account. If my argument is well reasoned, factual, and contains no "bad words," and you still ban me...then go fuck yourself.

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IRScansuckmyanus 7 points ago +8 / -1

Faggot should deff be allowed.

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ripley88 3 points ago +3 / -0

And anyone who thinks otherwise is a faggot

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Lol_Garrus 8 points ago +8 / -0

Plot twist. We are center right and the left is extremely far left.

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ravioli_king 8 points ago +8 / -0

Neutral = righties wins every time.

Lefties need the censorship, all of media on their side, lies, promises of free college, free daycare, $15 minimum wage just to end up with a 50/50 split.

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p1smo 8 points ago +9 / -1

I wonder if he's referring to derogatory slurs. I understand all the arguments against censorship, but keeping language semi-civilized doesn't bother me personally as long as there's no censorship of facts/opinions simply because they're unpopular or inconvenient.

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Isolated_Patriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

I agree with you, as long as we are talking about something that is in fact intended to be a central "public square" and it is a certain amount of decorum being enforced, not certain ideologies.

I am 100% in favor of profanity laws in a public square setting, just as this place simply cannot allow 100% free speech, the line must exist because too many people are evil little fuckwads.

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p1smo 4 points ago +4 / -0

Not just that, but Elon is also a businessman and wants to maximize his profits. No offense to TD at all, but we give it raw here which naturally thins the herd, and would be counterproductive for a place you want to keep accessible to families, businesses and advertisers.

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Isolated_Patriot 1 point ago +4 / -3

Our dwindling numbers are in large part because a certain subset is allowed to speak so freely. They didn't used to be allowed to speak so freely, and we had way more engagement.

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p1smo 5 points ago +5 / -0

There may be some solid truth to that. It's getting harder for me personally because there's no more bricks, no more coats, no more no brakes Trump train... It's low energy as hell and almost everything that gets posted is either bad news, reposted content or low effort memes. It's not the same site by a long shot, but then again, it's not the same world anymore either.

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tom_machine 4 points ago +5 / -1

Shut up retard

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Barbs 4 points ago +4 / -0

Shut up faggot.

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p1smo 3 points ago +3 / -0

REEEEEE!!

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HuntersTalkingPenis 3 points ago +3 / -0

Man... I remember when arguments about "censorship" were whether we could say "fuck" or not.

We said fuck those prudes.

Now you insult some transformer's wardrobe and you are tripple hitler.

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NavySTG 5 points ago +5 / -0

I won't use the platform, but I'm done wanting "neutral". I want them the way they want us....

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finalstraw 4 points ago +4 / -0

bruh he's gonna make you id yourself. no more trolling with fake accounts.

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Barbs 5 points ago +5 / -0

He’s opening verification to everyone, but it won’t be required.

Right now Twitter only verifies approved voices.

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HuntersTalkingPenis 2 points ago +2 / -0

I bet there will be a hide unverified replies, tweets, etc. Silicon valley loves its 1984.

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Dialectic 4 points ago +7 / -3

The right would only be irritated if he censors something, which means he’s gonna censor shit

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Barbs 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think he’s just saying if somebody starts harassing people then that’ll still fall under normal rules and not “free speech.” That works for both sides.

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Gesirisi 1 point ago +1 / -0

But why woukd that upset the far right?

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Isolated_Patriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Depends on what he means by "the far right" because there are still people pretending to be on our side who are only out to subvert and destroy with anything they can to push any boundary they can. And only those of us on the near-far-far-near-center-right-left-wherever the fuck, recognize that.

To the rest of the world, those people going around posting pictures of mutilated bodies on a parenting thread to prove that the juice is evil are "far right" and they won't be happy with any kind of rules.

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KuzoKevin 3 points ago +4 / -1

I like his thinking on this. Anyone right of center is called "right wing". Socialists and commies are called "progressive".

Radicals from both ends of the spectrum should be heard so people can make their own choices. To this point, the right has been silenced and the left has been amplified.

I don't think Musk gives a shit about people's feelings, which is what we need.

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try4gain 3 points ago +5 / -2

Musk has bigger balls than 95% of everyone else born with balls.

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MAGAsJustBegun 2 points ago +3 / -1

He keeps saying the right will be unhappy. Perhaps banning the use of racial slurs, faggot, etc?

Aside from that, what I really have an issue with is censoring different theories.

Different scientific theories, political, and so on.

I can't share studies showing the efficacy of ivermectin, and I can't claim the vaccine kills people.

That's tbe issue. Not being able to insult people with crude language may not be absolute free speech, but being able to debate real issues is good.

I personally think what I'd do if I ran a social media company is allow ALL words, including racial slurs.

I would have certain words have stars through a letter or two by default.

So you can name call. It is censored, but everyone knows what is being said.

It's social media in 2022. If someone was going around calling everyone niggers for their skin color, they'd be doxxed and attacked in real life.

Gotta say though, I miss the old internet. Before like 2009 or so.

Back then, you said and posted whatever you wanted with zero censorship or anything. Was the wild west for sure. And I was a troll back then.

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The_Nowhere_Man 4 points ago +4 / -0

There are some on our side who would flip shit if Elon banned people for doing things like doxxing in hopes of causing someone to be hurt physically. No where near as many as the crazies on the left, but some.

Free speech is amazing, but any company has to police itself somewhat to ensure it is successful. Try working for a business and using racial slurs constantly and see how fast you’d get fired. This is how it’s been for decades, and few had a problem with it since it’s about business first.

If he goes the route of keeping Twitter neutral and still having some rules that are fairly enforced, I’d be content. Give both sides the freedom to state their cases and logic so we can watch how the crazies show everyone how crazy they are.

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NoComment 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's okay, fuck both of the 10% extreme left and 10% extreme right.

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Pepbrandt 2 points ago +2 / -0

My guess is, the 80% leans more right.

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PhantomFUZZ 2 points ago +2 / -0

I doubt the right will be upset by anything Elon does with Twitter if he adheres to his free speech principles. I watched the hearings on CSPAN last year with The big Tech Bros and every Democrat commie called for more censorship EVERYONE of them while the RINOS asked basically why are you so mean to the right?!?! It was a shit show.

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FreddyThePatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

It sounds like he lied about free speech given that the right would have just been happy with that.

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Dicebag 1 point ago +1 / -0

Torba would not be happy with that. Free speech includes porn.

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GodEmperor2024 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, free speech does not include posting pornography. It includes talking about pornography, but not posting images.

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LastPureBlood 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's pretty fair.

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GodEmperor2024 1 point ago +2 / -1

The far-right is basically non-existent.

How do you know that? It's because everyone who is far right is censored from everywhere that you think they are a small minority of extremists.

In truth I believe a substantial minority of White people would love America to return to be a White ethnostate and ethnically cleanse (without violence) all non-whites.

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GodEmperor2024 0 points ago +1 / -1

Turn on any msm news/entertainment channel and you’ll see anti white, pro segregation, pro racism, anti America filth in no time.

And you think this doesn't have any impact on White men?

Sure some White people will just accept cuckoldry, but many of them will understand what needs to be done to ensure our survival.

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mainsoda 2 points ago +2 / -0

All the right ever wanted was an honest and fair public square.

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Retard_Strength 1 point ago +1 / -0

all the right ever wanted is honesty about what the right wants

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UndercoverSpez 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't use Twitter and obviously don't have stocks, but if it's a better stance that "we don't need to focus on free speech", that's good enough for me at the moment.

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Crappydatum 2 points ago +2 / -0

As my maths prof used to say

The "Piss On distribution"

That's "Poisson distribution" for the rest of you 🤓

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RIP_NWO 2 points ago +2 / -0

sounds cucky

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Gesirisi 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hi I'm cucky, and I'm your friend to the end. Hidey Ho, Ha Ha Ha

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Warchant59 2 points ago +2 / -0

The "Left", as it currently stands, thinks it IS 80% of the people and that literally everyone else is "Far-Right". They will be in shock if they ever figure out that everyone else is 80% of the people and the "Far Right" is just a tiny sliver of the nation that they obsessed over and reacted to for this entire culture war... The Left are a loud, hateful minority that has justified their ideology of hate and racism with an effectively imaginary enemy and the vast majority of the nation is disgusted by them now, and soon no one will mute the volume when they are being called out publicly.

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AslanFan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Middle? What middle? The middle ceased to exist in 2016.

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Here4thememology 1 point ago +1 / -0

80 percent of the " people" in the middle dont fucking exist!!! this is a civil war and most are far left and right and the middle are milk toast

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notCIA 1 point ago +1 / -0

Based on his current proposals, he isn't going to make the rightists that upsetti.

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xBigCoffinHunter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Twitter today reminds me of that time the Reddit filters broke and r/T_D was all over r/all again.

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pawzo 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's all fun and games when politicians and all connected shit on people in general but it's not fun and giggles when the table are turned and they can't go against billionaire unless they kill him, which FBI/CIA/pussypolice probably already have plans

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SFSilentNoMore 1 point ago +1 / -0

one can simply IDENTIFY as a member of the 80 or the 10

But the bigger WHAHH Waaa waaaa

It was confirmed today that Elon was Amber Heard's beau whilst she was breaking TRO's and trying to get Johnny back.

What a month for Elon Musket

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shogun5000 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sooooooo...not actual free speech

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Willblanch 1 point ago +1 / -0

Reeeeeeeee nice

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paullyj57 1 point ago +1 / -0

Elon like a lot of people wrong on whats left or right

surely the right are open and legal and the left

well a bunch of idiots

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Here4thememology 1 point ago +1 / -0

80 percent in the middle means he would have to ban 100 percent of the conservatives and 40 percent of lefties

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DCdeplorable 1 point ago +1 / -0

Shit elon is gonna ban politics. I cant think of anything else that would make 80% of "the middle" maximally happy

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BroadSunlitUplands 1 point ago +1 / -0

He’s walking back from ‘free speech’ as the standard very rapidly.

If it’s a whopping 10% on each end of the spectrum that’s going to be unhappy, that’s a lot more than just the few extreme KKK / Weather Underground types being excluded.

It’s hard to imagine MuskTwitter being anything other than better than OldTwitter, but on the current trajectory of backtracking from Musk I wouldn’t get your hopes up too much.

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123breadman 1 point ago +1 / -0

The 10% on the right includes doomers and those who think the us is a 3rd world country

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Papabravo12 1 point ago +1 / -0

None of this matters but it is funny

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DeepWinter 1 point ago +1 / -0

As long as he's clear on the rules and doesn't play tricks, I'm cool with it (not that I intend to really use Twatter anyway).

Like, "Conservatives can only post on odd days and Liberals on even days." Fine.

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Ez_mac 1 point ago +1 / -0

Does it matter because I have no intention of ever using Twitter. I’m trying to fade out as much social media from my life as possible. Including this site

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ceremony_ 1 point ago +1 / -0

Message to Elon Musk:

There is no more "middle".

In the beautiful 1980s, under Reagan, there was a "middle", where the vast majority of Americans were willing to debate, and even compromise for the betterment of the country. You truly had a huge mountain, with extremists far away on either side.

Today, there is no middle. There's just two large mountains and a giant chasm in between.

Which is why we are literally ripe for a civil war, or a secession.

This wasn't an accident, it's by design.

America cannot be destroyed from the outside (by anybody, save a nuclear bomb).

Therefore, they had to destroy it from the inside.

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DiscerningSword 1 point ago +1 / -0

Marxist operate as if the people are sheep that can be directed and steered largly through external stimulus.. They are not completely wrong in that thinking but they are wrong about the most essential aspect of our existence, Free Will and its primacy in us..