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maga_mama_757 [S] 150 points ago +153 / -3

Dinesh

Also interesting -

He answered a question many of us have been asking: "If you have cell data showing thousands of people visiting multiple drop boxes in the same day, and you have camera footage of the drop boxes, why does the documentary not have any video footage of the same person at different boxes?"

Dinesh responded: "Because the states were extremely spotty in putting surveillance on some dropboxes but not on others. In short, they broke the election rules that call for surveillance on all unsupervised dropboxes"

So it sounds like they don't actually have any video of any of the mules at different drop boxes. The geotracking data is impressive, but the lack of video is disappointing, although understandable.

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StoryTimeHour 124 points ago +124 / -0

Votes from drop boxes without proper surveillance should not be counted. So infuriating!

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Donger-Lord2 153 points ago +153 / -0

Drop boxes are unconstitutional.

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Foomer 79 points ago +80 / -1

The left doesn't give a fuck and the constitution is only a piece of paper worth the amount people are willing to kill and die for it.

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Moebius 42 points ago +42 / -0

The Left doesn't give a fuck about Election Laws PERIOD. Aren't they constantly harping on how 'unfair' they all are.

I recall one Socialist douche-bag stating votes on bar napkins should count...

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KYMAGApatriot1 14 points ago +14 / -0

They probably did …..

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Redneckkus 12 points ago +12 / -0

As long as they were Biden votes

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TrumpsBigBalls 10 points ago +11 / -1

Let's not forget, them changing their election laws without the legislature doing it was also unconstitutional

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kfunny91 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Left doesn't give a fuck that they were caught

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afox198 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hey now. Democrats do care about the constitution.. They often will try to use it to oust their political opponents. Thats the long and short of Democrats attempting to use the constitution. Democrats are the single reason for a majority of American citizens suffering.

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Tokyo20DrinkingGame 17 points ago +19 / -2

Vote in person, with a biometric marker that matches a U.S. citizenship database (to eliminate the "motor voter" states that sneak illegals on the voting rolls), or you don't get to vote. Full fucking stop.

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TrumpChampBelt 16 points ago +16 / -0

according to some soldiers out in the field in foreign countries where we occupy, they have the citizens dye their hand when they vote. literally 1000% more secure than our own elections... it's pretty fucking embarrassing

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Moebius 11 points ago +11 / -0

It's true. Many countries In the ME they make 'em dip a finger in an indelible ink that won't wash off and takes weeks to wear off...

...get caught cheating and they take the hand...

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tired-of-crap 5 points ago +5 / -0

Staffed boxes only. Stain their finger, and of course no ballots accepted from anyone with a stained finger.

Better yet, in person only unless you are in the millitary.

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sad_State_of_Affairs 3 points ago +3 / -0

Make it an official holiday, and free transportation to get your finger stained.

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Aesir 6 points ago +6 / -0

This is true, and the US government put it in place to prove free and fair elections in places like Iraq after we took over.

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TheOne555 4 points ago +4 / -0

As an example, they do that in Afghanistan

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MagicBanana 14 points ago +14 / -0

What kind of 'biometric marker' were you thinking?

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OPsMom 13 points ago +14 / -1

Jizz

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Justlooking250 7 points ago +7 / -0

Only unvaxxed sperm

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JamesComey 4 points ago +4 / -0

We just needed a urine sample sir

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Angryhotdog 6 points ago +6 / -0

Sorry I don’t need to pee can I use the rolling brown Amber left on the bed

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HerbertBailBondsh 8 points ago +8 / -0

Fingerprint scanner

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MagicBanana 15 points ago +15 / -0

Four feds upvoted this

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BewareOfThePug 4 points ago +4 / -0

Don't blame me I voted for jizz

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rapsheet1mile 3 points ago +3 / -0

Would you like to know more?

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Redneckkus 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’ve been thinking about this problem too

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Tokyo20DrinkingGame 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fingerprint, iris scan, etc. Some way to verify you are who you say you are, and not an imposter. One person, one vote.

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Colonel_Dax 13 points ago +13 / -0

In other countries, after you vote, IN PERSON, WITH ID, you dip your right forefinger in indelible purple ink.

It's better than an "I voted" sticker.

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sad_State_of_Affairs 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is what we need, with local precinct tablulation in public in real time, on a board for all to see. Make all of it public and broadcast live so anyone can audit.

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45ForEver2024 7 points ago +7 / -0

Hill folk don't take kindly to being in databases.

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Tokyo20DrinkingGame 1 point ago +1 / -0

Be an awful shame if they didn't vote, but that's their choice. Election security would mean we would have to leave them behind.

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Moebius 4 points ago +4 / -0

Smart Card Chip and Pin Voter ID. All Biometric Data can stored on the card along with certificates to access a secure and encrypted Election System.

...then make it a Felony to hack into any Election System or use another's credentials to vote.

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Wesmacker 4 points ago +4 / -0

Did you miss spell treason?

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Tokyo20DrinkingGame 3 points ago +3 / -0

Make that felony have only one punishment, the death penalty, for those convicted. No jail time.

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Moebius 3 points ago +3 / -0

Too many states don't have the death penalty...especially those with rampant election fraud.

I'm for a mandatory minimum of 10 years per offense...which would net those Ballot Mules consecutive life sentences...

Now...if we could amend sentencing guidelines giving those convicted the option of 'termination' versus incarceration, the bleeding hearts would have nothing to gripe about.

...after all, don't they always say 'my body, my choice'?

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Tokyo20DrinkingGame 3 points ago +3 / -0

Make it a FEDERAL death penalty. The states should have no say in the sentences for federal election crimes. Make it up there with terrorism.

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Trump2024 1 point ago +3 / -2

...felony...

Oh my !

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sad_State_of_Affairs 1 point ago +1 / -0

No electronics, vote in person , finger gets stained , local public tabulation , livestream the tabulation

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razzletazzle 1 point ago +3 / -2

There's a work around for that too: grant citizenship.

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War_Hamster 9 points ago +10 / -1

They're not Unconstitutional. Pretty sure they're not mentioned.

What they are is a very obvious attempt at subversion of the ideals of free and fair elections, but if the State Legislatures, in their infinite lack of wisdom, choose to hold their elections in a dishonest manner, the Constitution doesn't necessarily forbid that.

But it should.

Convention of States could fix this.

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Faulkner 9 points ago +9 / -0

That commenter is probably talking about Pennsylvania, where the state constitution does not allow for the election bureaucracy (like the secretary of state and/or his minions) to just cook up new methods of voting, like dropboxes. It was all decreed on an administrative level without changing the actual election laws.

There's been a ton of comments about this, but no one in state government will do anything about it.

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War_Hamster 5 points ago +6 / -1

You're correct about how they illegally altered election laws in PA and other states, but this question is about the Constitutionality of drop boxes.

Unfortunately, they most certainly are Constitutional if a State legislature foolishly votes to make them part of State election law.

The whole idea of a republic is to let States make mistakes like this. The marketplace of ideas and checks and balances should correct something like this. I think it would if the system hadn't been corrupted.

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Faulkner 7 points ago +7 / -0

Dropboxes and ballot harvesting are illegal under Pennsylvania's constitution. I know they are technically legal elsewhere, but Pennsylvania was my only point.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +5 / -3

If we're just talking PA, we agree. They changed the rules illegally.

But my point again, is that they could actually legally adopt ballot boxes, if the legislature stupidly thought it was a good idea.

The fact that they bypassed the product should have made the PA results null and void, but we know how the courts ruled on that.

The courts were very much wrong.

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HuggableBear 4 points ago +4 / -0

The constitution lays out the day the election is held. All votes cast outside that day are unconstitutional.

That's why they can't count them until the day of the election. They come up with bullshit "it's not actually cast until it's counted" even though everyone knows you voted early. Ditto the early in person voting

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sully 2 points ago +2 / -0

The constitution however does not lay out how elections should be conducted, and therefore it falls under the 10th Amendment which grants each State the power to conduct elections how they deem fit.

It's up to the individual States to determine whether or not a Dropbox is legal. However paying someone to drop your ballot off is illegal in every state, which is the main issue that's pointed out in the movie.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +3 / -1

The constitution lays out the day the election is held."

Not precisely. This specifically does not lay out a day elections are held.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof"

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GivingTheBird 3 points ago +3 / -0

Uniparty needs to be disinvited to that dance. Holding a Convention of States beforehand is tantamount to unconditional surrender. It is a trap we're doomed to trigger unless we embrace the truth - all peaceful options are exhausted.

We've hard proof edited into a digestible format now. Trump won and I think it is time to consider anyone saying otherwise to be enemy combatants.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think a CoS can be done as a convention of the people and for the people. I've been doing some writing on this that I'll share here soon.

As to your second point, you're basically saying establishment RINO's must go. I happen to agree.

Yes, Trump Won.

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GivingTheBird 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most Federal departments, offices, and agencies too. Slash and burn. The government's purview should not extend past what our elected representatives can directly oversee.

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JamesComey 2 points ago +2 / -0

Uniparty is bound to fuck that up

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War_Hamster 0 points ago +1 / -1

They're bound to try. I suggest we don't let them.

100% transparent Convention.

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wantstogomoon 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just think in the next election when we have 500,000,000 votes for president Trump they have to take it as verbatim as the most secure in history!

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gunteh 4 points ago +4 / -0

If someone hacked the hackers and made us win by impossible amounts, it would show The Whole system for the fraud it is

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Prayeradime12 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hmm..... not a bad idea! Except.... they'd actually arrest us for it.

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john9985 5 points ago +5 / -0

That

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Meme_Too 5 points ago +5 / -0

Votes from dead people should not be counted.

Votes from people who have moved out of state should not be counted

Votes of people whose address is a vacant warehouse should not be counted.

Votes of people who have already voted multiple times should not be counted.

Votes of people who have the exact same birthday as 300 others in the same precinct should not be counted.

Votes of people under the age of 18 should not be counted.

And on.

And on.

And on.

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DoctorShlomo 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

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GodHatesBiden -1 points ago +1 / -2

What if every person who voted at that box is a legal vote?

You're going to disenfranchise those voters over it?

So the left could just...turn off the cameras in red counties, or refuse to fund their cameras, and invalidate every vote at precincts they dont like by saying the footage is missing or isn't good enough.

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SamuelColt 1 point ago +1 / -0

Only an idiot uses a dropbox to vote. Go to the polls if you care about your vote being counted.

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Pepbrandt 21 points ago +21 / -0

To confirm.. they don't catch a single mule at two drop boxes on tape?!!!? That's some serious coordination. Lots of people complicit.

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Crappydatum 30 points ago +30 / -0

Did you watch the movie?They CLEARLY showed the same man, bald, black, wearing tan clothes at two different drop boxes.

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NYforTrump 5 points ago +7 / -2

I saw the movie and they didn't. They replayed it a few times asking commentators for their reaction.

The best part of that movie was them showing people put multiple ballots in the box and taking a picture.

Still they only showed that happened with 2 people at one box and then alleged it was 200 people each going to 30 boxes. The cell phone location stuff was nice but I don't know what to make of it.

They should have gone into a lot more detail about how many of the dropboxes had video and how much of that video they were able to access.

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refresco 2 points ago +3 / -1

"Why would they take a picture?!?!?"

Maybe because people are social media whores and they want those "Just Voted" likes.

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Tallsie 1 point ago +1 / -0

They found the videos of the people putting multiple ballots in one box and taking pictures using the methodology of watching the video when one of the suspected mules visited a box they had camera footage for correct? That would show the tracking hypothesis has some legitimacy.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

The cell phone location stuff was nice but I don't know what to make of it.

the cops used it to find and convict a murderer

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45ForEver2024 1 point ago +2 / -1

Maybe he didn't want to spend 50 bucks?

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Crappydatum 3 points ago +3 / -0

It cost $20 for my party. The people who came spent more than that on the food and booze they brought, by far

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maga_mama_757 [S] 16 points ago +16 / -0

That was how I took his comment, and I would think if they'd had that type of irrefutable video, they would have included it. It is a little odd to not have found even one.

I'm curious to know just how many drop boxes had their cameras turned off, or never had any installed to begin with.

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War_Hamster 12 points ago +12 / -0

They did say they faced a lot of resistance in their efforts to request those video records.

Perhaps this explains the lack of multi-mule-stop video.

It is a question that will be asked.

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Long_time_lurker 11 points ago +11 / -0

My thinking is that they went to the dropboxes that they knew didn't have video surveillance.

It'd be good if we could crowdsource our own video feeds of them somehow for next time, though I bet that after this they will simply get rid of their cell phones.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +4 / -2

Reasonable hunch.

I'd have thought that maybe they'd avoid disabling too many video feeds, as that would perhaps be a red flag.

I think it's more likely that they hadn't thought to have this used against them, and when these info requests came in, their response was to obstruct. That should have a paper trail as well.

FOIA works, people, Get to work!!!

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tired-of-crap 1 point ago +1 / -0

Airplane mode will be standard, just like when they added the gloves.

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maga_mama_757 [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Definitely a possibility. Another pede also pointed out that perhaps they targeted drop boxes with no cameras?

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PorchLightOn 12 points ago +12 / -0

Right. The female Yuma AZ whistleblower in the movie said that the person who gave her the ballots to drop off specified using the library drop box...because there were no cameras. Also, they told her to go at night.

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War_Hamster 6 points ago +6 / -0

Or maybe arranged for drop box cameras to not be working?

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

they have 4 million minutes of video

they just provided enough to make their case that the people they tracked were dumping ballots

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Junionthepipeline 10 points ago +10 / -0

They know they will never be cought prosecuted or charged.

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SonOfThunder -10 points ago +8 / -18

That’s not a good look for Dinesh.

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SuccessLoveJoy2U 19 points ago +20 / -1

I agree with you.

And the lack of video for all drop boxes will be the justification the baby killing left to disbelieve it.

But the normies are going to be very, very angry when they see this movie. That is why there is a total blackout on the media.

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p1smo 10 points ago +10 / -0

It’s a fair criticism. I don’t believe it at all, but it would be nice to have more verification.

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SuccessLoveJoy2U 6 points ago +6 / -0

You don’t believe it will convince normies? (Fair enough)

Or you don’t believe the movie is telling the truth?

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p1smo 16 points ago +16 / -0

I don’t believe the lack of dropbox video evidence disproves evidence of fraud overall.

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borntacticool 11 points ago +11 / -0

It's all backwards anyway. The onus should be on the state to prove the election was legitimate, not on the People to prove it illegitimate - "dude, just trust me" is not proof. Really tired of having to see independent people put up millions for access to this data.

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p1smo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Preaching to the choir my dude.

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War_Hamster 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yup, the lack of video can be explained by the universal pushback on acquiring this video. This pushback came from the same people who were charged with running a free election, and failed to do so. Of course this suggests obstruction.

The question I'd like answered is whether the geolocation information is determinative. Can it be disputed? Doesn't seem so to me.

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Prayeradime12 4 points ago +4 / -0

Its definitely being disputed by the cunt Ali Swenson from the AP who's trash "fact check" article is being ran in many many many local papers across the country. Normies already proved how gullible they are. They read this article from AP in their local paper, and they will probably be skeptical of 2k Mules, just as easily as they were skeptical of covid being treatable, and the vacx's being dangerous..... dammit

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War_Hamster 0 points ago +1 / -1

If you can find that article, please post. I might be too busy to use a search engine on my own 😎.

I might have some fun on some of these comment threads.

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SuccessLoveJoy2U 4 points ago +4 / -0

I agree.

And so will normies. That is why they must watch the movie.

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EagleI 3 points ago +3 / -0

The lack of drop box video evidence is evidence. The same way the cameras mysteriously didn't work on Epstein's cell.

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War_Hamster 9 points ago +9 / -0

The pushback I'm seeing is that A. Dinesh is a criminal so has no credibility, and B. Geo-locating is imprecise.

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gunteh 12 points ago +12 / -0

There are people in DC jail because their phones location on Jan 6th. Can’t have their cake and eat it too.

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War_Hamster 7 points ago +9 / -2

They are immune to hypocrisy.

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SuccessLoveJoy2U 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yes. That will be the narrative the left uses. They even anticipate it in the movie.

Have you watched it, yet?

It’s a deprograming course for the normie brainwashing packed into 88 minutes.

It’s being blacklisted.

You don’t don’t backlist things that arent threatening, right? Or am I missing something? I could be. Sometimes I’m a dummy.

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War_Hamster 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm about 2/3 through it, but I've been following True the Vote for awhile, so nothing is really new to me. It's very well done and presented quite clearly.

No, you don't blacklist things you think are false. You discuss them openly and demonstrate objectively why they are false.

That assumes you care about the truth, and not narrative.

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EagleI 6 points ago +6 / -0

They won't believe anything. There was already a ton of video evidence with the PA cardboard trick, GA cheating, Project Veritas ballot harvester, and of course the town halls full of people offering signed affidavits and testimonies.

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borntacticool 6 points ago +6 / -0

We're making the mistake of assuming good faith - but we should know better. Shitlibs could have chocolate all over their faces and crumbs on their clothes but still deny they got into the cookie jar.

They know what they did, we are just cucks for not punishing them for it.

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War_Hamster 5 points ago +7 / -2

Yup, but the more evidence we show, the more normies start to wake up.

It's frustrating as all hell trying to break through the programming, but that's what the Info War is all about.

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EagleI 6 points ago +6 / -0

Oh 100%. Still believe Dinesh is doing great working with this project. If nothing else, galvanizing patriots and waking a small number of newly redpilled.

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45ForEver2024 5 points ago +5 / -0

If only someone could open a court case and then request said items.

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War_Hamster 1 point ago +3 / -2

There are actual cases that have been trying to make their way through corrupt courts.

I suspect the solution may have to be outside of a corrupted judicial system.

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RedditSuxAss 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm surprised there's not a lot of "buT Teh ViDeO waZ EdiTeD"

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War_Hamster 3 points ago +3 / -0

Pretty sure we'll hear some of that.

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Tokyo20DrinkingGame 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm in Dominion-controlled Colorado and I don't know if there's a single drop box that has a camera trained on it. They're usually in open parking lots near municipal buildings, to make it sorta like a drive-thru.

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Moebius 4 points ago +5 / -1

Well...that is easily remedied. If the State won't put surveillance video up, we put up our own.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

it is obvious that they are going to hand this over to the courts

we will see what happens there

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sciencebeforegod 6 points ago +6 / -0

I assume every cell phone pinged has a signature that you can match with other pings.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

yes, each phone has a 15 digit International Mobile Equipment Identifier unique to that phone

it is built into the hardware and cannot be spoofed or changed

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PorchLightOn 6 points ago +6 / -0

Thanks for this helpful info. I agree it would help convince the public, if they had video of consecutive drop box visits.

Can legal pedes speak to the geotracking data by itself still working well for court evidence? A jury can't easily "see" geotracking data, but juries convict people all the time based on expert evidence about things like DNA and fingerprints. Coupled with testimony from some mules trying to get better deals, it seems like the geotracking data would be solid. With or without video of every stop.

The left will try to say "no video of serial drop box visits means it didn't happen," but we can't let them get away with that lie.

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +4 / -1

did anyone actually watch this movie?

they start out by explaining how accurate geotracking is and gave the example of the cops using it to find and convict a murderer via the trail if where he had been

they also explained that companies by this information for use in predicting marketing trends

the proof of serial dropboxing is tracking people leaving the non-profit, going to drop boxes all over the city, returning to the non-profit, lather, rinse, repeat

for weeks

fuck this video bullshit

Dinesh could have hired people and made fake videos

the tracking is total proof

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Hanging_Chad 3 points ago +3 / -0

no video of serial drop box visits

How many dropbox locations did each mule visit? Like 50 per day?

1 in 50 locations had a camera?

They would need to be much more scarce than that in order for none of the mules to hit more than one camera location.

Super scarce cameras, yet 4M+ hours of footage? 🤔 Did the rare camera locations have multiple angles or?

Edit: or was it 4M minutes? idr

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PorchLightOn 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes, it was 4 million minutes of official drop box surveillance video.

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PorchLightOn 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't recall them specifying the average visits per day; I think they specified the average number of unique visits made by each mule, during the time frame they purchased (generally October 1 through the election.)

So the PA mules averaged over 50 drop box visits during that time, and the GA mules averaged 24 drop box visits during that time frame.

Let's say a GA mule only worked for them for six days. His route covered 4 drop boxes on a route he did every night, times 6 nights, 24 visits total.

Maybe one of his four drop boxes had a good camera. The second one didn't have a light on the camera at night. The third one had a light, but the drop box was so far away from the camera you can only see a blur in the dark. And the fourth drop box he visited every night was in a location that the county refused to share video for, saying "that video is not available, and we have no explanation."

I saw an interview with Phillips and Engelbrecht a while back, and they showed a video of a drop box in GA that was faced away from the camera, and way off in the distance. Impossible at night to see anything. This might have been done on purpose; a crooked county clerk could still say "we had a camera in place as required by law."

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Snoman 50 points ago +50 / -0

Peter Thiel owned SafeGragh sold this type of data to the CDC, it was accurate enough for them to track people to their home address.

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War_Hamster 11 points ago +12 / -1

Is this the same Peter Thiel that we're told is out White Knight big tech investor who is fighting against the man despite some very troubling connections?

I've spoken to people who have read his book, written for PR purposes of course, and they make compelling arguments.

My take on Thiel is similar to my take on Elon Musk; I judge them by their actions and the company they keep.

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acasper 4 points ago +5 / -1

Anyone associated with Palantir should be in prison.

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War_Hamster 3 points ago +5 / -2

I haven't been as deep down the Palantir rabbit hole as you obviously have been, but I was already trending towards this opinion.

Got any good links to share so I can catch up.

I instinctively don't trust data collection operations like this, but I suspect they're among the worst abusers of this.

Prove me right, please. I'm a friendly audience.

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acasper 3 points ago +3 / -0

I was being hyperbolic, but I have a strong dislike of the company. Here are a few reasons why:

Heavily reliant on government contracts obtained through rubbing shoulders with bureaucrats and retaining them as advisors.

Inflated contracting and software licensing fees.

History of repackaging open source tools and selling them to customers.

Historical misrepresentation of what their software and graph is, what it does, and how it does it (has gotten better over the last few years).

Selling themselves to investors as a software company when they’re really primarily a contracting company nowadays.

Karl having studied under Jürgen Habermas (Critical Theorist, Frankfurt) is concerning to me.

Initial funding through InQTel is concerning to me.

Implicit bias present in Semantic Reasoners (what their product is fundamentally) is concerning to me.

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War_Hamster 2 points ago +2 / -0

InQTel was the part that caught my attention originally.

I agree with the non-technical issues and will take your word for the technical ones.

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acasper 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s always a big red flag. In reality Palantir is probably more of a scapegoat than anything for that market as other offerings like the ones from IBM still dominate in market share afaik.

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SamuelColt 1 point ago +1 / -0

You could have just pointed to this in the first place instead of being a dick.

It's actually refreshing to see someone with founded criticism of Palantir that isn't the usual "muh data collectors" nonsense.

And I agree with your points. But are they really fundamentally different than other gov contractors? Seems like these are pervasive issues.

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acasper 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nah, they’re not worse than anyone else in the same vertical. They have probably done more good than others like i2 because of their strong affiliation with organizations like the USMC and their work identifying bombmakers.

Their tools were used to identify hotspots on the ring road for increased aerial surveillance and that alone likely saved hundreds or thousands of lives. My criticism comes down to Karl leaving a bad taste in my mouth (no homo) on multiple occasions ideologically, general misrepresentation of the software capabilities during contract bidding which edged out competitors that had better product market fit but didn’t have the political connections, CIA influence from go by way of funding and initial hiring decisions, and using techniques that have a tendency to allow users to come to whatever conclusion they want through a systemic bias (I hate the term but it’s accurate here) imposed by the semantic model and initial tagging/data flow modeling.

BAH, Lockheed, IBM, and others all offer substantially the same services as Palantir and they’re all likely doing and facilitating much more nefarious things because of the other industries they’re involved in. Palantir doesn’t have a direct incentive to bias aerial target identification algos so that they can sell more hellfire missiles for example.

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acasper 0 points ago +1 / -1

ser, what are your qualifications that make you think you can criticize my lived experience? rEeee3EEeeEEe

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acasper 0 points ago +1 / -1

I couldn’t comment on that. You’d know. If you knew. Retard.

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Hanging_Chad 3 points ago +3 / -0

dropbox contact tracing

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MobileDev4Trump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Peter Thiel is just another lolatarian.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

it was accurate enough to be used as evidence in a murder trial

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TheCandiru 34 points ago +34 / -0

I don't even get why that's an argument. Has the left never used Google Maps or Waze or Apple Maps to drive anywhere? SMH

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Hanging_Chad 16 points ago +16 / -0

Reminder that Google owns Waze

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BamBamBoogaloo 4 points ago +5 / -1

Just uninstalled, thanks

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UpTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

And it turned to shit right after it was acquired

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Herefordamemesss 2 points ago +2 / -0

That uses GPS an entirely different technology than geolocation via cell service.

Just because it’s on your phone doesn’t make it all the same thing.

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comlib 2 points ago +5 / -3

It's an argument because anyone walking near these drop boxes repeatedly would be counted, even if they did not interact with them. Given that drop boxes are usually in high-traffic areas this throws the numbers into question.

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BibleProphecyFulfill 3 points ago +3 / -0

They selected only people who went on certain paths. This was all covered in the movie. Why are y'all being so dense?

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +2 / -1

or Find My Phone

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Throwingway22 24 points ago +25 / -1

They don't care. Fact checks are programming updates. "Ackshually"ing them is wasted energy as anyone that is following you and sees it already knows.

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Mothertrumprr 21 points ago +21 / -0

Getting assfucked by your own news article 😆 Typical liberal foresight

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acasper 4 points ago +4 / -0

The contradiction is a feature not a bug.

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lsvogel 17 points ago +17 / -0

Interesting these fake news articles were published even before the movie was released! They had to get ahead of the narrative where the irrefutable evidence is so damning!

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Moebius 4 points ago +4 / -0

Even if they have video footage and eyewitness testimony...they'll blame it on the Ballots, or Drug addiction, or mental health issues...something.

...they'll even blame Trump...

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

they keep harping on there being no video of every mule making every drop and not even addressed the tracking and how proven accurate it is

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IncredibleMrE1 13 points ago +15 / -2

They're kvetching because we used their spying tools against them.

Cope, seethe, and dilate, traitors.

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TheRealJaredHolt 12 points ago +12 / -0

Eventually, even very gifted liars weave a web of lies so ridiculous that they get backed into a corner, and they have to keep making up more and more absurd lies to cover for previous lies. The establishment crooks have long since past into the realm of completely insane and easily disprovable lies, because they have nowhere else to turn. The truth could have set them free at some point, but they have committed crimes so heinous, they can only beg for God's forgiveness, because they will find no mercy on earth if they were ever to stripped of power and exposed fully.

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lsvogel 11 points ago +11 / -0

Catherine from True the Vote says she will make public everything they have investigated and found out about the mules. Big BOOMS coming soon. Wait for it...wait for it.

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rebuildingMyself 5 points ago +5 / -0

Weaponized autism will save the nation

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

someone on the panel mentioned the police visiting the people they have on video

they have proof of people committing felonies, the cops can't ignore it

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PartTimeLoser 10 points ago +10 / -0

Anybody who works in law enforcement knows how accurate cell phone geotracking is.

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GaryWA 10 points ago +10 / -0

Faraday Pouch.

Amazon

18 bucks for 2. Get it, live it.

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sir_rockness 3 points ago +3 / -0

A burner flip phone is much more fool proof

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

until the first drop box

all they would have to do is find out what IMEI was at that drop box at that time

then they could track everywhere you have been

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

put one metallic chip bag inside of another and then put your phone in there

one bag will not work

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Ocineaa 8 points ago +8 / -0

They lie through their teeth and laugh about it. These people are evil.

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havax 1 point ago +1 / -0

What needs to happen now is every motherfucking drop box in this nation needs to have citizen surveilance 24/7 until it's done. that means every single person that can get to a drop box needs to put up some kind of battery powered cam or something hidden on every drop box and record that video 24/7 so that we can prove this shit next time. Hell, put a real person on every fucking drop box 24/7 while they are up, take shifts, just fucking do it so that they won't get away with this shit again.

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King5150 8 points ago +8 / -0

CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS have used the exact same (metadata) remember that word? to arrest and prosecute hundreds of "dangerous" people over the past 10 years. Somehow this data is no longer valid?

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RedditSuxAss 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's different when they do it.

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JamesComey 1 point ago +1 / -0

Remember, it’s actually illegal for you to look at this. What you’re hearing about it is coming from us, the trusted news professionals of CNN-

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +2 / -1

CDC used it for contact tracing

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PorchLightOn 7 points ago +7 / -0

Someone asks: "How long before the FBI storms Dinesh D'Souza's house taking all the info he has gathered regarding the 2020 election?" Dinesh replies:

They don’t need to storm my house. We’re happy to give them everything we have. The question is whether they will do anything with it. The houses they should raid are the vote stash houses—the left-wing nonprofits that helped carry out this criminal election fraud operation.

https://nitter.net/DineshDSouza/status/1523462607272771585#m

Amen to that!

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far_away_trumper 4 points ago +4 / -0

And the FBI agents: "How are we supposed to cover up this s__t? Do you understand how much overtime this will take? We are NOT paid enough for this s__t!"

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GivingTheBird 5 points ago +5 / -0

I like to think the FBI's demographics reflect the rest of the country, with much of the ranks being full of those who know and hate what is going on but are either too cautious or cowardly to do anything about it - like us.

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Trump_Underground 3 points ago +3 / -0

You're probably not far off the truth.

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far_away_trumper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nope. The FBI, like other 3 letter agencies, are 80% to 90% Democrats. Conservatives have some difficulty fitting in them, because Conservatives think for themselves.

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GivingTheBird 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think we believe whatever convenient stack of circumstances alleviates our burden and makes inaction comfortable. It can't be our fault when it is the FBI's fault.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

this. no covert operation that can be contained

this is hard evidence of 1000s of felonies being committed in multiple states

they can't deny that evidence and they can't say it never happened

and, even if they did shirk their duties, state and local law enforcement can investigate

Dinesh has already done the hard work so I am not authorizing overtime

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JMaN 7 points ago +7 / -0

"The central goal of American freedom is self-reliance: the individual is placed in the driver's seat of his own life." - Dinesh D'Souza

GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR WAY, JOE! YOU CHEATING SCUMBAG! YOU TOO, OBAMA!

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BabbleRabble 7 points ago +7 / -0

Next they'll be saying they were stuffing those boxes with letters to Santa from the local orphanage.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

"Your honor I would like to call Santa Claus to the stand"

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TDAF 7 points ago +7 / -0

Sick burn. Dinesh is too smart for the criminal Left.

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Damaged_Dirk 6 points ago +6 / -0

Cell phone tracking is enough to put a poor fucker in jail for where they were Jan 6 but not good enough to track a ballot mule?

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Juanye 1 point ago +1 / -0

They use geolocations to lock people up all the time. I had a client who ran a company who did it and said it was precise enough to even tell what lane you’re driving in on a street.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +2 / -1
  • corporations pay good money for the information

  • the CDC used it for contact tracing

  • the police used it to find and convict a murderer

there is no way they can argue that it isn't good enough

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Foomer 6 points ago +6 / -0

The left: we will use cellphone data to track the covid positive.

Also the left: Cell phone data is too unreliable to be used as tracking ballot stuffing.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

The left: This is not valid without video

:show video:

The left: Those videos were staged

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Internet_hugs 5 points ago +5 / -0

I work for a big cell phone service provider. It's true, it used to be this way, that with the gps signal they'd know where you were with accuracy around 50 feet. It's now 1 yard. We do these tests when we call 911 and inform the dispatcher that we are doing a test and need our location. It's always spot on.

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maga_mama_757 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Even the Life 360 app that my family uses is about that accurate. Anytime my kiddo misplaces her phone, I check Life 360 and I can tell what part of the house her phone is in, or if she left it in the car.

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Internet_hugs 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yup. I don't know if it's ignorance or blatant gaslighting on the left, but the technology in the civilian market for location based services is practically military grade now.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

so are the geofencing apps

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +2 / -1

it's down to one yard?

enhanced GPS has been an FCC mandate for years

can you do what floor you are on yet?

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TheTPL 1 point ago +1 / -0

100m was the civilian deviation for a while, but generally if it's over 30m nowadays that's the limit. 10m is quite common, and I've regularly had hits to within 10 feet or less.

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Moebius 5 points ago +5 / -0

...it was certainly accurate enough for the FBI to get a warrant at the Capitol for many people just off their cellphone pings....

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SisterCovfefe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Excellent point

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Siteless_Vagrant 1 point ago +1 / -0

And blurry photos of their T- shirts, STILL haven't JACK on Steven Paddock though.

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BibleProphecyFulfill 5 points ago +5 / -0

The CDC used the same data to track how people moved during lock downs.

I thought they covered the accuracy of this method well by showing how they used the data to track murder suspect.

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Boricua4Trump 5 points ago +5 / -0

Pfft! My family is FBI and they work on tracking. They sure can pinpoint exact places. Check out the daybell case in Idaho.

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Skyking772002 4 points ago +4 / -0

Anyone that has google maps on there phone knows they have exact locations.

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RedditSuxAss 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly. Every time I open that shit, I go wow, it knows where I am within like 5 feet.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

that's different

maps uses geolocation information sent to it by your phone- you can turn that off

this system uses your IMEI and the network- you can't turn that off

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Axiom502 4 points ago +4 / -0

They literally solved a murder with the same technology

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Juanye 1 point ago +1 / -0

They use it for a ton of criminal cases and it’s accurate enough to be considered evidence. More reliable technology than a polygraph

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Celt 0 points ago +1 / -1

Then we need the names of these cellphones. But what we really need is the ballots. We need to go door to door with the ballot data and see if it matches up. Without that we ain't gonna sell this.

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NoCoupForYou 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nevermind it's the basis for a huge chunk of criminal trial evidence.

"Okay, Mr. Akata. Why does T-Mobile say you were within 10 feet of the liquor store at the corner of Marcus Garvey and 131rd Street at 2AM when you claim you weren't even in town that week and dindu nuttin'?"

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +2 / -1

Dat was mah cousin's phome

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Celt 1 point ago +2 / -1

If we can get the dindus names then we can get them in court

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Zippythekid 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is a tactic. Don’t dispute the facts, nitpick and get you to defend little points until the whole issue is lost in the argument. It’s a tactic used by forum sliders and psychopaths. The left is trained to do this and they go all over social media trying to do it.

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Celt 0 points ago +1 / -1

Thats all well but we need hard facts. We need names and numbers. Without that we ain't gonna be heard. This is open source so if everyone gets on this we should be able to get some hard data. Then we can prosecute.

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ATK69 4 points ago +4 / -0

For anyone that isn’t aware of Stingwray they should look it up. The government is more than capable of knowing the whereabouts of anyone within your supposedly 4th amendment protected domicile. Makes me vomit. Get a faraday bag if you haven’t already. Your chips aren’t planted, they’ve been insidiously tied to your existence.

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JoinTheDiscussion 4 points ago +4 / -0

3g/4g cell tower triangulation IS NOT very accurate.. But that us NOT what was used.. It was GPS location data

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SaveUsSCOTUS 4 points ago +4 / -0

I mean GPS locations are used by my company to track our fucking trucks. we know where our fucking trucks are.

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JoinTheDiscussion 1 point ago +1 / -0

Politifukt is being disingenuous about the type of tracking used.. Normie's don't know the difference

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odiChamp 3 points ago +3 / -0

Just hit these soybois with, what it's good enough for your DoorDash but not this?

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

you can use Find My Phone to successfully locate a device

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borntacticool 1 point ago +1 / -0

Even if it's not as accurate the triangulation serves as a useful redundancy backing up the accuracy of the GPS data. Shitlibs have to argue that at minimum 3 towers and a constellation of satellites are all wrong.

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JoinTheDiscussion 1 point ago +1 / -0

yeah but triangulation data has to come from the cell providers.. and that's only available if you are Pelosi or Pencil Neck

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

exsqueeze me but enhanced GPS can get your location to within 150 ft

it is an FCC requirement for E911

it can even tell what floor of a building you are on

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JoinTheDiscussion 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh it is much better than 150ft.. Especially if you post process with dgps from a near by stationary Coors station.. You'll be within a few feet even with phone gps

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NaggerPlease 3 points ago +3 / -0

Funny, I was reading “politicrap” “review” of 3000 mules and all they do is try and hide the truth, bring up words like “right wing” ect. The article I read was so tucking biased, it needs its own “Cuck check”. Ridiculous

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Bernier4Canada 1 point ago +1 / -0

I saw another "Fact check" where they interviewed a cop who was like "yeah, I carry two phones, a laptop, and an ipad in my cruiser. I'm probably 100 of their "mules" alone from driving around"

I haven't seen the film but I do imagine that they don't include 4 dots circling the block constantly

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ikuyas 3 points ago +3 / -0

If you have leaned and developed the IOS app or Android app, the geo-tracking tracks your geolocation and the height from the ground. It can tell whether you are on the 2nd floor or 1st floor, even on the floor or adult height level.

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Poppinfresh 3 points ago +3 / -0

Cell phone geolocating is, by law, accurate to within 9 feet. It's listed as a "safety requirement" on the premise of finding an avalanche victim or someone lost in the woods or what have you.

So these fact checkers are arbitrarily deciding that "accuracy" must be 8 feet.

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Celt -2 points ago +1 / -3

what if the drop box is next to a road and every car that goes past is within 9 feet? Do we have the locations of the drop boxes to check that? we have to be perfect with our data.

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BLMTrying2GetUrGuns 3 points ago +3 / -0

Remember when they used cell phone data to predict that a Sturgis motorcycle rally was a "super spreader event", and it was considered credible by MSM?

Pepe Farms remembers.

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Crappydatum 1 point ago +1 / -0

One whole biker died

Oh, and he had stage 4 terminal cancer and Sturgis was on his bucket list

But yeah they said it was a Covid death

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TrumpChampBelt 3 points ago +3 / -0

they have a perpetual denial defense. They only have to deny, deny, deny. forever if necessary. Even if the burden of proof has been completely fulfilled it seems all they have to do is deny.

It's pretty bullshit.

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jollybygolly 3 points ago +3 / -0

lol.

Look at all these shiny new "handshake" accounts trying to undermine 2000 Mules.

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Celt 0 points ago +1 / -1

aint about undermining its about getting more evidence. We need names. Then we need those names to be arrested. We need the cellphone data so we can put names and pics to it. Without that we ain't gonna get anywhere. You can call me a shill whatever but thats a fact.

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FreedomFromGovt 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tech is either insanely accurate or useless depending on the elastic needs of leftist powermaniacs.

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Foreign_Aid_is_Theft 3 points ago +3 / -0

Do people not remember that big military scandal where workout watches were mapping out secret military bases in fucking Antarctica? Even on an uninhabited continent they could get precise locations.

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spinometer 3 points ago +3 / -0

I have used this data in my work. It is extremely accurate. Centimeters.

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airborne3502 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh, and while we were at it, we turned over the suspects who just happened to be, at a Wendy's, where an eight year old girl was shot and killed.

The family appealed for leads, and they got arrests.

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Block_Helen 3 points ago +3 / -0

Remember how they got sexually excited over tracking the coof on spring break 2020 in Florida and how geolocation allowed them to see EXACTLY where all these lawbreaking college students were headed after getting infected in Daytona and Ft. Lauderdale?

But now it's muh imprecision

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bigbrownbeaver 3 points ago +3 / -0

The left/communist believe truth and facts are not the same. While we MAGA/PATRIOTS know with absolute facts that this nursing home patient was illegitimately elected. The left, the rainbow people, democrat Pol's, republican Pol's, big tech and the msm have their truth. This was a concerted effort from inside our government with help from big tech to subvert the 2020 presidential results. WE KNOW THIS HAPPENED! FACTS! Also a fact no one in DC wanted DJT re-elected.

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MAGA9428 3 points ago +3 / -0

Geotracking isn't accurate? That's bullshit.

I have personally known a lawyer for many years and he said you wouldn't believe how many criminals get prosecuted just because of geotracking. If a criminal brings their cell phone to the crime scene, they are hosed.

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instant_covfefe 3 points ago +3 / -0

I can pinpoint my phone on my back porch vs in the back room of the house. It's pretty damn accurate.

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Wesmacker 3 points ago +3 / -0

Just look at Google maps it know what direction your facing and which lane your in, pretty precise.

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buckiemohawk 2 points ago +2 / -0

FBI and police have used geotracking to solve crimes and prove the criminal has been in the area

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Capitalism_Fuck_Yeah 2 points ago +2 / -0

5G is very accurate while 4G is more general area and 3G can estimate your in an area between a few towers.

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TaxDollarsHardAtWork 2 points ago +2 / -0

Archive that shit so they can't change it!

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +2 / -1

archive it and send copies to various safe locations

and make sure you have it on an external or USB that is isolated from any network

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Siteless_Vagrant 2 points ago +2 / -0

Anyone that has ever used google maps (by now I'm guessing the VAST majority of the population) knows that shit can track you down to about 3' or so.

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HiddenDekuScrub 2 points ago +2 / -0

Triangulation can be inaccurate. So if you're trying to track a lost phone in an apartment complex, you're out of luck.

But it doesn't mean it's unusable for other purposes. And people are going to recognize patterns. Is there any reason people would be repeatedly hanging around even the general vicinity of that ballot box intermittently while driving back and forth between the same democrat office? Yeaaaaaaaah, no.