You don't lose anything if you don't realize the losses. Time in the market > timing the market. This market looks like it's on sale to me, and when it goes lower, I'll keep buying.
Lol I held through covid crash, this is child's play. I know a guy who sold entire 401k at the bottom there and missed the recovery. Pushed back his retirement a full decade...
10% corrections are par for the course, and as fun as it is to shit on Biden, mostly unrelated to him. Direct your ire at the Fed, which has been operating outside the constitution since its inception.
So here's the thing. The covid flash crash was in the hottest economy on record. The fundamentals were still good and able to weather it. Then we printed half our money supply, literally. So that lit the afterburners and we sky rocketed for two years.
Now, the turbine can't handle the heat and is about to rip apart, because the long term effects of covid are coming home to roost. Everyone got cheap and free money and has spent it all, driving up prices to unsustainable levels. Why do you think housing went up 20-50% in some areas, nearly matching the dollar amount printed??????
My company is seeing stuff that took 2 months to get now takes 8. Manufacturing and chemical production facilities don't have spare parts for two years in stock. Shit is soon to start breaking and causing shut downs. Never mind what Biden has been doing, the entire globe ran on highly reliable supply chains and just in time delivery. Now that system has gone to shit. We went from, yes we can have it there in 3 weeks 12 hours and 32 minutes to, maybe we get it there in six months. No promises but give us your money and pray.
This. My brother in law has a company that supplies and repairs generators, air compressors, and other heavy duty equipment to keep things running in plants. He just CANNOT get parts anywhere. Lead time on everything says September. This is going to get very ugly very fast. He also can't find any young assistants to be his apprentice. American gen Z cannot fix anything. They were never bored enough to learn how things work because they had 24/7 entertainment in the palms of their hands.
Why do you think housing went up 20-50% in some areas, nearly matching the dollar amount printed??????
It was already going up too fast for years. Once Biden was dropped into office, the HUGE investors wanted something that was safe against the potential financial disasters they knew he would either put in place or accelerate. Investors like Black Rock were buying properties unseen for asking price or above. They figured that even if they couldn't rent the property out and even if the property price didn't appreciate at a decent rate, it still wouldn't be subject to the same dramatic downfalls they foresaw for the market.
The dollar amount printed was part of it - but only part of it. What the DNC did with petroleum is a much bigger factor than most people - including economic "experts" realize. Somehow they forget that everything costs more when gas goes up, making everything else cost more, making everything cost more like a runaway freight train. They aren't incremental price increases either, they are multipliers, because each step of the price chain has other costs they have to recoup and pay out with increased costs.
Probably the most infuriating thing from the lockdown and getting push back from morons that try to guilt trip you "Are your profits more important than life?".
No you stupid cunt, we're not an agrarian society anymore, you can't just STOP an economy of this size without massive repercussions later down the line. Yet here we are.
You buy and sell within the market too. Walmart is up today for a very simple example, so you sell that and buy something that is down. My advisor has made it clear that he counts on volatility as part of his strategy. Also, I assume he's working and has income, so there's that.
My fathers 401k lost $100k when he sold everything in March of 2009 thinking it was going to go lower and cut his loses. He made most of it back up in the decade since but that’s a hard lesson to sell everything when the market tumbles.
Dollar Cost averaging will always be better than sitting out the market waiting for the one time the market crashes 30%+
Anyone selling at this point is going to lock in those loses. If you were talking about selling in December, That’s one thing. Telling people to jump off the ride mid-dive is the wrong advice.
I don't see that. Sure hit the pause button but don't cash out. You'll just be stuck in the dollar then. If you are looking at 35 years your Bitcoin is most likely going to come back along with a lot of other things. I say just sit on it all in a hardware wallet and forget it about for a decade.
Hell, if the dollar becomes absolutely devalued, and you have hard assets, paying back your debts will be a joke. "I bought my house in 2022 for $1.2 million... now this gold coin is worth $1.5 million... uh, hey Mr. Fed, thanks for the house."
You crying like a pansy in this post is all the proof i need that this is a nice buy opportunity for those of us with 30+ years left in the workforce. No offense.
If it gets to the point where it doesn’t come back your dollars are toilet paper anyway. No reason not to invest IF you are also able to prepare for the worst.
"Sometimes it's better to hit the pause button selector switch to auto and step aside spray for a couple of years."
And why do you sit in that my chair giggling.
I'm lucky I guess. I'm old and retired and don't have any real bills anymore past power and feeding my face. The ones who are going to suffer are the ones drowned in debt.
All part of the planned destruction of the nation. Drive tens of millions into insanity and then drive them into the streets to burn everything down. The problem with that plan is its only going to burn down the cities because when they get done with those and turn outwards they are going to meet a wall of guns held by people just like you. This is also why when I retired I moved as far away from the city as possible out in the middle of the sticks surrounded by working farms.
If you're serious, you should work a jerb and stock up.
I work a menial job and I'm fit as fuck, stashing away acorns, taking care of my fam, and red pilling my co-workers who are already anti-establishment as it is, but they don't see the darker side of things.
We always need one more rifleman in our company.
If you have some sort of special skill, get off the PDW and start writing shit down in LaTeX or Markdown and use pandoc and publish it for free to make the people here actually do something or perhaps learn something.
Sounds like you need to log out from internet. Too much "information". Has you going into doomer-land.
I have yet but one desire: to learn to desire something. Something like that?
Things could be a hell of a lot worse. They could be hell of a lot better.
You'll always have the ability to "cash in your chips", like jumping underneath a UN tank (should invasion of some sort happen). And you're not ordered into American Gulag or a labor battalion yet...
PDW and other sites aren't the end all, be all. Not by a fucking long shot. I recommend logging out and reading some good literature & listening to some good music. Take a break.
How are you gonna help MAGA if your brain is on the fritz? Can't MAGA if you can't make yourself better, y'know?
Yeah, I get what you're saying but I just don't think I'll make it to 2023. I don't think the coming collapse of American society is going to be as exciting as you may think and I don't think there are going to be any gulags or invasion. Fact is there are simply too many people with guns in this country and too many criminals and when the store shelves are bare, the economy grinds to a halt and the blackouts come, that's when this country is going to get real dangerous real fast.
you are overstimulated and dooming, pal. Too much internet.
Go hit the gym or walk around some nature, get some sunlight. It will help. We need everyone we can get out there. The globalists want you to be at your wits end, buddy.
Sometimes I really hate this fucking place and what it has become, versus thedonald days. HOT will have wall-to-wall shit (nihilism fuel) and people just sit on here and bitch and moan. The particulars of the bitching and moaning aren't important.
Couple that with majority of people here being technologically retarded (nitter, yt-ownload, lots of other cases) and it is a perfect storm of "living in a bubble".
I'm in the same boat. Was hoping to get crypto rich and retire but you gotta get lucky now or have lots of money to start off with. The other option is to work hard, make lots of money (not easy), then don't do anything so you can save hundreds of thousands of dollars (will take years) only to hope what you saved is worth something in 20 years or so when you want to retire.
Exactly. There are ups and downs, but trust me when I say when you have a long horizon you are safe. It’s been my experience and even sued a financial manager over it.
I offered a dude a BJ for my first gun. He called me a fag and walked off. I’m scared of guns anyway. As far the market goes, we really need to put more emphasis on Keynesian economics. It’s the best.
My preference is private currency or mutual credit pegged to a set quantity of wheat or oil (or a basket of commodities). Thus the currency is linked to real economic prices, which makes it more stable as a unit of value.
My preference is private currency or mutual credit pegged to a set quantity of wheat or oil (or a basket of commodities). Thus the currency is linked to real economic prices, which makes it more stable as a unit of value.
Sitting a new president will not be sufficient to fix the damage and stabilize. Real growth in this country I think is still a long way off. Really all equities need is for someone to start the money printer again. Not recommending it, just saying that's all that would send stock running overnight.
Yeah it's better to wait until whole thing collapses then invest in the rebuild, don't buy in while the shit is falling. Wait for that declining slope to level out for awhile, then see check to see if there is a reversal.
Everyone buying right now is buying a falling knife. I'm all about opportunities but I'm not for catching knives. Wait for it to hit the floor. Not making any moves beyond really low risk things until we can understand what's going on.
Fed increasing rate, ukraine ops, supply chain sabotage... there are too many levers spinning at once. Need some stability in the world economy before just buying the dip.
This one could be real bad. The PPI was up months ago. Inflation is record. Oil prices and food sabotage is not helping. Our nominal productivity is declining. All sorts of things that show no sign of this leveling out anytime soon. This dip has a lot of energy behind it still.
I agree as well. When the market was in freefall decade ago, I bought mutual funds when we dipped into the 7000's. It was luck, but my reasoning at the time was "It can't fall much farther; people are going to want to make money again and the market does have more than just a little value when you take out the absurd speculation."
This happened to a lot of smart people. I argue that today is not today to buy however. Too much momentum and instability still, likely to keep falling. It's the beginning right now. I'm tracking but am not making a move until we end summer.
You forgot to mention that to those who cashed out in time, now is the time to buy back your assets, before the whales scope it all up cheaply, using the freshly printed dollars at your expense by inflation.
And if it doesn't crash further? Not saying you should go all in, but you should buy the dip with at least some of your Biden bucks. The recovery may be just as violent as the crash.
There's always a possibility that it could go lower, I'd say 50-50, that's where my money's at. Also using gold as hedge instead of Biden bucks to avoid too much losses if I don't catch the bull in time.
As disposable income flies out the window all these growth companies propping up the market are going to get fucking wrest.
Great time to be commodities was 6 months ago.
Great time to buy tech and growth stocks is once we see some signs of rebound. Right now there is a lot of momentum in this 'dip'. We will be forced into a recession and that needs to happen so we don't have runaway hyperinflation. This is not the bottom of the dip, not even close. I am waiting another quarter. Right now I'm moving cash into clearing debt, reits, and I do believe savings accounts will start providing interest soon.
Other than that, now is a great time to invest in some bullion clock is ticking I think before things sspike. Expecting a 20% increase by 2024 as it catches up to match value with our bloated money supply.
Dropped nearly 5% for the second time in 10 days. Lmao we're going to hell and the scary part is no ones even panicking yet. We're all like, "Yep, this is the correct market value."
Retail especially mail order is taking a hit from shipping and shortages.. With the cost of shipping doubling places like Amazon are having a harder time competing with the box stores..
You and me buddy. It was like, well I have to get out of the dollar so it doesn't really matter if I'm buying tops or not since I know inflation is going to go off the charts any day now. I was buying a top and then the dollar strengthened like crazy for seemingly no reason whatsoever. My shit all crashed and then inflation hit.
People around here are like, well that's cause you need land and houses, tangibles. Yeah OK why don't I just scrounge together $2.5M and buy a couple 3 bedroom houses to rent out when renters not long ago didn't have to pay rent lol. There really is no answer but buying slowly (DCA) is often a good idea.
Ok to dollar cost average dividend paying stocks with okay balance sheets and a semi-normal P/E ratio. Stay away from growth and tech stocks. There is a long way to fall, keep cash on hand. You will see huge bounce days, don't buy on those. The largest moves up occur in bear markets. This could take years to bottom and there hasn't been a flash crash yet. S&P hasn't even entered bear market territory yet, neither has DOW, which would be 20% off of the highs
I think we aren't going to see any E for years I think. P will reduce if the money printer stays off and retail traders on Robinhood stop pumping their paychecks into stock every day (not sure if that really has an impact or not).
We are far from the bottom but a good buy in the past would have been crude oil and refined fuels, physical lumber, scrap copper and non perishable foods.. Those have zenithed this Spring but a few big ones will be advanced battery technology and emerging energy sources since the U.S. electric grid is already close to being maxed out and they are wanting to put a huge load onto it with EV's while shuttering power plants.. Solid state batteries, Lithium iron batteries, graphene based batteries, hybrid super capacitor technology, geothermal power generation and mass water desalination by pumping ocean water to the desert and evaporative extraction of fresh water.. The left over salt sludge can have rare elements extracted and plain old dirty salt waste product can be sold for road deicing in northern states.. With the South West USA reaching a fresh water shortage the value of clean water will go up..
A big opportunity in under the Great Lakes of Erie and Ontario hydro power where the deep slow current that flows West to East could be harnessed to spin turbines..
That decision is up to you but all I see is for it to keep climbing since the cost of mining and processing copper and aluminum is going to keep increasing.. You will get more per pound if you melt it into ingots and find a spot buyer that is local over going to a scrap yard.. I figure you have close to $1,600 worth now..
By design, people panic sell and the pedophile elites have already created new Biden bucks for themselves and are ready to buy back everything the weak hands sold at any day now.
Could be further dips first, but if you have savings for a few months ahead, now is the time to buy in cheap with about half of your investment resources.
I strongly disagree. Look at the charts, the support levels are considerably below where we are right now. Look how long past crashes took to recover. It's too hard to gauge which companies will do well and which will have to restructure at this moment. Interest rates have only risen for 2-3 months. The nasdaq bubble took 3 years to bottom and this bubble is much larger and spread to all assets. Longs haven't even had to cover yet, employment hasn't changed and we only had one bad gdp and warnings quarter, a recession by definition requires 2 negative quarters and we haven't had 1 yet.
The wild card is the fed printing, but they don't have much room left to do anything. DONT TRY TO CATCH A FALLING KNIFE
It is notable we have hugely over bloated growth and tech stocks and they are about to get absolutely demolished as disposable income dries up for commodities, while they are dealing with supply chain and chip issues.
Stay the fuck away from things that make discretionary goods that use chips. Looking at video cards, looking at Apple big time. Vehicles is iffy because more necessary but still expecting higher cost and less sales as well. TV manufactures, smartdevices.
SaaS companies may be ok if b2b.
Stay away from discretionary sub / streaming service.
First to get cut during disposable income crisis at the consumer level. Cable, phone, satellite, internet. Watch out. People are going to be scrambling to free up personal cash flow by limiting and cutting these things back to afford food and gas.
Storage is a diamond in the rough and I anticipate as the housing market becomes more volatile the demand for self storage will increase bolstering occupancy for this sector regardless of economic conditions. Storage is well known to be "recession proof" because it is generally an essential component of moving so it is less affected by a decrease in disposable income levels dropping. It is more of a need for the customer than a want, to sum. Occupancy and rent revenue is also only one factor to the income for these REITs as the property value also consistently appreciates in value generally tracking inflation.
So you essentially will see dividends staying stable as well as the actual share value increase as more people scurry from home to apartments in this upcoming volatile housing market. Demand for storage is not based on want it is based on the velocity - amount/time of people moving.
Of course don't put all your eggs in one basket. But I expect this to perform very well and also am in the back end of the industry so I'm a little biased. But I do have money where my mouth is.
Do your diligence and check it out though for sure. One con of all this is interest rates increasing, some of the big names in self storage have expanded greatly on debt with low interest rates. Fed will continue to hike interest rates which is going to slow growth/expansion by limiting these companies ability to build and buy new facilities. But I think the existing facilities will be thriving.
Be brave, when others are fearful. I'm looking into crypto markets primary, we'll see results whether the knife is falling our bounces back up this week already most likely.
Stocks is too much of a bubble, too much insider trading, and who knows how long the average Joe will be allowed to own and trade stocks.
I bet we end the week higher than we started. This is a selloff to get suckers short then they turnaround and get the shit squeezed out of them back to 4500
First of all nothing was worth what the price indicated for years. None of it was based on solid fundamentals but access to tons of cash and credit. A little of that was obvious. Pandemic: wow look at how the airlines stocks are going up and nobody is traveling. Microsoft: wow look at how their price went up 8% today on the lowest volume day in months. Last fall my 401k climbed so fast that I was in a panic while everyone else was cheering. These things don't sneak up, people just don't pay attention until it breaks.
Amazon has always been a growth company. There is no where left for them to grow at the moment.
Everything is crashing because economic outlook is poor. Tech has no room to grow, and the fed just took away cheap debt. Throw on inflation and you have a lot less wealthy people spending more money for significantly less.
The pedophile elite is dumping to create an artificial crash, triggering plenty of stop loss orders in the process which kicks the price further down.
In the meantime weak hands get scared and panic sell to Biden bucks, which they believe is stable.
The pedophile elite have already printed billions and billions of Biden bucks for themselves, ready to buy back in soon as the dip hits the bottom.
Few assets goes up as some smart people choose to take refugee in safe assets over Biden bucks, think about it, Walmart sells essential stuff, it's a fool proof business idea and they won't take much of a hit during a financial crisis, people need to eat and buy some cheap crap for their homes always.
Remember tho, the crash is artificial, the recovery will be fast and when that happens, don't sit on Biden bucks, invest in assets, buy the dip.
I’ll never get involved in the markets after I lost almost everything in 08 but the banks were bailed out. Dirt and precious metals are the best things to invest in.
You can buy other currencies through a trade hub where’d you buy stocks. I do have to look and see if the Rubles are available through such an exchange. There are some other countries whose economies and currencies are not as bad off as ours is getting.
I was half tempted to buy SPY shares when it hit $396 just a little before closing bell. Also since S&P RSI hit low 30s for the last 14 days. Buuuuuut decided against it. Would rather wait for another rally and get in on SH again. I think this market is pretty much going to be nothing but downside biased rollercoaster for awhile.
ALLL THAAAT MONEYYYYY injected into the economy in the form of "covid aid" ... and none of it linked to productivity. Sooner or later, it will hit the wall.
No and I didn’t even bet in the derby... not a gambler, a rambler I am... it’s worse cause I reap no profits 🤷♀️ Not even a told ya so 😉 But if I had a horse, I’d name her Ireland Pixie Go Braless and that’s still 1000x safer than Hunter Biden’s laptop password 👋
The funny part for me is, I got out of Crypto and was unsure about adding to the 401k, so I just started THIS WEEK investing 10% weekly into it, no match. I get fucked hard on taxes, HARD, and it leaves no other option unless I INC up.
The market is VERY over-priced by historical standards, AND the earnings themselves are inflated by fake wealth effects due to money-printing. There is a long way to fall:
I'm investing for 35 years from now. Not simply trying to get out of the way of Brandon's economy.
You don't lose anything if you don't realize the losses. Time in the market > timing the market. This market looks like it's on sale to me, and when it goes lower, I'll keep buying.
Normalcy bias doesn’t work when you find yourself in the middle of a communist revolution
If it goes that far the dollar is worthless anyway. If you can buy in and still buy survival supplies it’s a win win.
Ding ding ding.
The one silver lining to inflation, like literally the only one:
Cheap debt, baby! CC swipes for days.
Lol I held through covid crash, this is child's play. I know a guy who sold entire 401k at the bottom there and missed the recovery. Pushed back his retirement a full decade...
10% corrections are par for the course, and as fun as it is to shit on Biden, mostly unrelated to him. Direct your ire at the Fed, which has been operating outside the constitution since its inception.
If you're down only 10%, you'd be having a good time right now. The NASDAQ is down almost 30 and the s&p 17%. With probably another 15% to go
Yeah let's ignore all the actions the Dems took to destroy the economy trump had in place....
So here's the thing. The covid flash crash was in the hottest economy on record. The fundamentals were still good and able to weather it. Then we printed half our money supply, literally. So that lit the afterburners and we sky rocketed for two years.
Now, the turbine can't handle the heat and is about to rip apart, because the long term effects of covid are coming home to roost. Everyone got cheap and free money and has spent it all, driving up prices to unsustainable levels. Why do you think housing went up 20-50% in some areas, nearly matching the dollar amount printed??????
My company is seeing stuff that took 2 months to get now takes 8. Manufacturing and chemical production facilities don't have spare parts for two years in stock. Shit is soon to start breaking and causing shut downs. Never mind what Biden has been doing, the entire globe ran on highly reliable supply chains and just in time delivery. Now that system has gone to shit. We went from, yes we can have it there in 3 weeks 12 hours and 32 minutes to, maybe we get it there in six months. No promises but give us your money and pray.
This. My brother in law has a company that supplies and repairs generators, air compressors, and other heavy duty equipment to keep things running in plants. He just CANNOT get parts anywhere. Lead time on everything says September. This is going to get very ugly very fast. He also can't find any young assistants to be his apprentice. American gen Z cannot fix anything. They were never bored enough to learn how things work because they had 24/7 entertainment in the palms of their hands.
I’ve been waiting over a year for a closet at ikea.
It was already going up too fast for years. Once Biden was dropped into office, the HUGE investors wanted something that was safe against the potential financial disasters they knew he would either put in place or accelerate. Investors like Black Rock were buying properties unseen for asking price or above. They figured that even if they couldn't rent the property out and even if the property price didn't appreciate at a decent rate, it still wouldn't be subject to the same dramatic downfalls they foresaw for the market.
The dollar amount printed was part of it - but only part of it. What the DNC did with petroleum is a much bigger factor than most people - including economic "experts" realize. Somehow they forget that everything costs more when gas goes up, making everything else cost more, making everything cost more like a runaway freight train. They aren't incremental price increases either, they are multipliers, because each step of the price chain has other costs they have to recoup and pay out with increased costs.
Probably the most infuriating thing from the lockdown and getting push back from morons that try to guilt trip you "Are your profits more important than life?". No you stupid cunt, we're not an agrarian society anymore, you can't just STOP an economy of this size without massive repercussions later down the line. Yet here we are.
Nobody said panic.
Look at reality and consider alternatives.
Two weeks you say?
If we are in the middle of a communist revolution, then our money will be worthless regardless.
This a fallacy. If you buy an asset and its price falls by 40%, it takes many years of great returns to break-even.
Part of his point is that if an asset falls by 40% it's a good time to buy it.
Sometimes…
Of course
What's he going to buy it with if he's always all in the market ?
What are you going to do with a worthless bond or liquidated cash with a value that decreases every second?
You buy and sell within the market too. Walmart is up today for a very simple example, so you sell that and buy something that is down. My advisor has made it clear that he counts on volatility as part of his strategy. Also, I assume he's working and has income, so there's that.
Yah this is a correction. Buy shares, or don't, at a discount.
Rather compare the current price to the fundamentals, how much it's fallen in the near past is secondary.
My fathers 401k lost $100k when he sold everything in March of 2009 thinking it was going to go lower and cut his loses. He made most of it back up in the decade since but that’s a hard lesson to sell everything when the market tumbles.
Dollar Cost averaging will always be better than sitting out the market waiting for the one time the market crashes 30%+
Look at this chart and tell me this is the bottom.
Anyone selling at this point is going to lock in those loses. If you were talking about selling in December, That’s one thing. Telling people to jump off the ride mid-dive is the wrong advice.
Market has a longggg way to drop still tho. We are only at 2020 levels. Just wait till people really start freaking out
Interest rates up, stock market down, home prices down, lots of buying opportunities opening up as we’re in the 4th or 5th wave down.
Sell everything before the market tumbles 50%.
After the 2009 crash, which was the worst crash since the Great Depression, it only took 4 years for the S&P500 to fully recover.
The fed is out of options. The fed has been juicing this market since 2008.
Stonks only go up?
No. The Japanese stock market has been crabbing and going nowhere for the past 30 years.
It's not outside of the realm of possibility the same thing could happen to the America stock market.
I'm not saying it WILL happen but don't be so confident if you HODL for 30 years you'll come out ahead.
Japan has a stagnating population, which severely limits GDP growth.
The US, meanwhile, has the most incoming immigrants of any country on earth (for better or worse).
I don't see that. Sure hit the pause button but don't cash out. You'll just be stuck in the dollar then. If you are looking at 35 years your Bitcoin is most likely going to come back along with a lot of other things. I say just sit on it all in a hardware wallet and forget it about for a decade.
If your income is greater than your expenses and you aren't carrying debt .... Well your life will be a lot more relaxing.
Hell, if the dollar becomes absolutely devalued, and you have hard assets, paying back your debts will be a joke. "I bought my house in 2022 for $1.2 million... now this gold coin is worth $1.5 million... uh, hey Mr. Fed, thanks for the house."
I even have a backup hardware wallet.
Working land ? Or just a property tax obligation?
This sounds like slavery, but with extra steps
I agree with you.
I think its too late for this world to be fixed by conventional measures.
The corruption is too deep.
Buying all the way down is when you make money...
lol normal market fluctuations
I uprooted u on your name alone. Fare well.
You crying like a pansy in this post is all the proof i need that this is a nice buy opportunity for those of us with 30+ years left in the workforce. No offense.
I love my job though :)
Why the harsh tone? I said no offense, you cryin' pussy
If it gets to the point where it doesn’t come back your dollars are toilet paper anyway. No reason not to invest IF you are also able to prepare for the worst.
"Sometimes it's better to hit the
pause buttonselector switch to auto andstep asidespray for a couple of years." Andwhy do yousit inthatmy chair giggling.FIFY.
I'm lucky I guess. I'm old and retired and don't have any real bills anymore past power and feeding my face. The ones who are going to suffer are the ones drowned in debt.
All part of the planned destruction of the nation. Drive tens of millions into insanity and then drive them into the streets to burn everything down. The problem with that plan is its only going to burn down the cities because when they get done with those and turn outwards they are going to meet a wall of guns held by people just like you. This is also why when I retired I moved as far away from the city as possible out in the middle of the sticks surrounded by working farms.
This right here. Those who are of the least value to society are of the highest value to those who keep them there.
This
I would add to this, owning businesses which do something valuable. Especially something that can't be outsourced.
I'm trying to decide how and when I kill myself. Must be nice to have a 35 year outlook on life...
Make sure you STREAM IT FOR US IN 4K. If it’s shitty resolution I won’t watch.
I don't know why but this made me audibly laugh out loud.
spez: damn that got dark quick
this whole comment string is just funny
Wait ‘til you read this! https://patriots.win/p/15HuxgDfXu/spezisanazicumfag/c/
Please don’t do that. If you do, Get your rotary-wing pilots license and start a communist transportation service first.
If you're serious, you should work a jerb and stock up.
I work a menial job and I'm fit as fuck, stashing away acorns, taking care of my fam, and red pilling my co-workers who are already anti-establishment as it is, but they don't see the darker side of things.
We always need one more rifleman in our company.
If you have some sort of special skill, get off the PDW and start writing shit down in LaTeX or Markdown and use pandoc and publish it for free to make the people here actually do something or perhaps learn something.
I just don't care. I ran out of fucks to give long ago. I hate my life and what the world has become and I just want to die.
Sounds like you need to log out from internet. Too much "information". Has you going into doomer-land.
I have yet but one desire: to learn to desire something. Something like that?
Things could be a hell of a lot worse. They could be hell of a lot better.
You'll always have the ability to "cash in your chips", like jumping underneath a UN tank (should invasion of some sort happen). And you're not ordered into American Gulag or a labor battalion yet...
PDW and other sites aren't the end all, be all. Not by a fucking long shot. I recommend logging out and reading some good literature & listening to some good music. Take a break.
How are you gonna help MAGA if your brain is on the fritz? Can't MAGA if you can't make yourself better, y'know?
Yeah, I get what you're saying but I just don't think I'll make it to 2023. I don't think the coming collapse of American society is going to be as exciting as you may think and I don't think there are going to be any gulags or invasion. Fact is there are simply too many people with guns in this country and too many criminals and when the store shelves are bare, the economy grinds to a halt and the blackouts come, that's when this country is going to get real dangerous real fast.
you are overstimulated and dooming, pal. Too much internet.
Go hit the gym or walk around some nature, get some sunlight. It will help. We need everyone we can get out there. The globalists want you to be at your wits end, buddy.
ConfederateFlag is correct.
Sometimes I really hate this fucking place and what it has become, versus thedonald days. HOT will have wall-to-wall shit (nihilism fuel) and people just sit on here and bitch and moan. The particulars of the bitching and moaning aren't important.
Couple that with majority of people here being technologically retarded (nitter, yt-ownload, lots of other cases) and it is a perfect storm of "living in a bubble".
I'm in the same boat. Was hoping to get crypto rich and retire but you gotta get lucky now or have lots of money to start off with. The other option is to work hard, make lots of money (not easy), then don't do anything so you can save hundreds of thousands of dollars (will take years) only to hope what you saved is worth something in 20 years or so when you want to retire.
Good luck with that. Cheers from Yugoslavia
Exactly. There are ups and downs, but trust me when I say when you have a long horizon you are safe. It’s been my experience and even sued a financial manager over it.
I have been buying silver. Idk how we'll trade with it but I'm sure people will figure it out
I offered a dude a BJ for my first gun. He called me a fag and walked off. I’m scared of guns anyway. As far the market goes, we really need to put more emphasis on Keynesian economics. It’s the best.
You could sell dick pics of your "wife" to get by. There will always be a pervert market.
My preference is private currency or mutual credit pegged to a set quantity of wheat or oil (or a basket of commodities). Thus the currency is linked to real economic prices, which makes it more stable as a unit of value.
Wait for sales on spot premiums. You can easily find bulk @ +$2/$3 per ounce.
My preference is private currency or mutual credit pegged to a set quantity of wheat or oil (or a basket of commodities). Thus the currency is linked to real economic prices, which makes it more stable as a unit of value.
This. Onto the 3rd large safe. Off to my boat trip!
Opportunity to buy low. When MAGA takes over you'll have more shares and will be off and running.
Sitting a new president will not be sufficient to fix the damage and stabilize. Real growth in this country I think is still a long way off. Really all equities need is for someone to start the money printer again. Not recommending it, just saying that's all that would send stock running overnight.
I agree with you.
My personal target is SPY 100
Yeah it's better to wait until whole thing collapses then invest in the rebuild, don't buy in while the shit is falling. Wait for that declining slope to level out for awhile, then see check to see if there is a reversal.
Everyone buying right now is buying a falling knife. I'm all about opportunities but I'm not for catching knives. Wait for it to hit the floor. Not making any moves beyond really low risk things until we can understand what's going on.
Fed increasing rate, ukraine ops, supply chain sabotage... there are too many levers spinning at once. Need some stability in the world economy before just buying the dip.
This one could be real bad. The PPI was up months ago. Inflation is record. Oil prices and food sabotage is not helping. Our nominal productivity is declining. All sorts of things that show no sign of this leveling out anytime soon. This dip has a lot of energy behind it still.
I agree as well. When the market was in freefall decade ago, I bought mutual funds when we dipped into the 7000's. It was luck, but my reasoning at the time was "It can't fall much farther; people are going to want to make money again and the market does have more than just a little value when you take out the absurd speculation."
My prime earning years included that 2008 disaster, which meant I was buying stocks when they were dirt cheap. I retired in my 30's.
This happened to a lot of smart people. I argue that today is not today to buy however. Too much momentum and instability still, likely to keep falling. It's the beginning right now. I'm tracking but am not making a move until we end summer.
This is an average down opportunity on current positions and an opportunity to start new ones at a discount.
You forgot to mention that to those who cashed out in time, now is the time to buy back your assets, before the whales scope it all up cheaply, using the freshly printed dollars at your expense by inflation.
Disagree. They have farther to crash yet.
And if it doesn't crash further? Not saying you should go all in, but you should buy the dip with at least some of your Biden bucks. The recovery may be just as violent as the crash.
I guess we disagree that this is a dip. Normally you do buy a dip. I don't think this is that.
There's always a possibility that it could go lower, I'd say 50-50, that's where my money's at. Also using gold as hedge instead of Biden bucks to avoid too much losses if I don't catch the bull in time.
Tried that but gold has sunk too. Maybe a good time to buy more.
Long way down to go.
This is the tech bubble of -22 instead of -00.
As disposable income flies out the window all these growth companies propping up the market are going to get fucking wrest.
Great time to be commodities was 6 months ago. Great time to buy tech and growth stocks is once we see some signs of rebound. Right now there is a lot of momentum in this 'dip'. We will be forced into a recession and that needs to happen so we don't have runaway hyperinflation. This is not the bottom of the dip, not even close. I am waiting another quarter. Right now I'm moving cash into clearing debt, reits, and I do believe savings accounts will start providing interest soon.
Other than that, now is a great time to invest in some bullion clock is ticking I think before things sspike. Expecting a 20% increase by 2024 as it catches up to match value with our bloated money supply.
Bailouts in 3…2…1…
What's going on with oil? It's dropping fast too.
The past two years have been a massive free-for-all bailout to all financial assets, via money-printing.
"(insert random stock here) tO tHe MoOoOoOoN! DUUUUURRRRRR!"
Buy that lambo baby
I am a diamond hands gorilla
> MSM: CRASH! MARKET COLLAPSE! RECESSION! THIS IS THE END
> MSM: Crickets
Their silence is deafening
You have Blue Chip Mega Cap and Large Cap acting like penny stocks. This stock market isn't a Casino anymore, it is a Lotto Ticket System.
Dropped nearly 5% for the second time in 10 days. Lmao we're going to hell and the scary part is no ones even panicking yet. We're all like, "Yep, this is the correct market value."
Home depot, Walmart and Phillip Morris tobacco lol.
Tobacco, coffee, bullets, sugar, salt here. Dm for barter after the crash lol
Oh yeah I got baby formula
Just gonna slowly DCA and cross fingers I guess.
Yeah this is the way for long term investments/timelines. Sucks for people needing that money now though.
Balls of steel!
That's what I do with Bitcoin, tbh. Apparently, according to Binance, I'm in the top ~20% of investors earning money, lol.
Lol
Stonks
To the Mooooon! Lol
Fucking Walmart
Retail especially mail order is taking a hit from shipping and shortages.. With the cost of shipping doubling places like Amazon are having a harder time competing with the box stores..
Fucking Walmart?
How about fucking Johnson & Johnson...
Saw an infographic the other day, WM owns nearly every grocery store in the country of Mexico, by a margin.
Time to buy? Or wait more.
Buy slowly, not all at once like my retarded ass did last year.
You and me buddy. It was like, well I have to get out of the dollar so it doesn't really matter if I'm buying tops or not since I know inflation is going to go off the charts any day now. I was buying a top and then the dollar strengthened like crazy for seemingly no reason whatsoever. My shit all crashed and then inflation hit.
People around here are like, well that's cause you need land and houses, tangibles. Yeah OK why don't I just scrounge together $2.5M and buy a couple 3 bedroom houses to rent out when renters not long ago didn't have to pay rent lol. There really is no answer but buying slowly (DCA) is often a good idea.
I don't know much about REITs but that is a way to get in on some tangible assets, but it does feed the corporate guys that are buying.
Yes this is the way, I still think more pain is on the horizon but buying the slope in smaller chunks sounds like a smart play.
Ok to dollar cost average dividend paying stocks with okay balance sheets and a semi-normal P/E ratio. Stay away from growth and tech stocks. There is a long way to fall, keep cash on hand. You will see huge bounce days, don't buy on those. The largest moves up occur in bear markets. This could take years to bottom and there hasn't been a flash crash yet. S&P hasn't even entered bear market territory yet, neither has DOW, which would be 20% off of the highs
"there hasn't been a flash crash yet."
I'm still sitting here expecting a blow off top. Last Nov I was thinking, that can't be it, it's just a local top. Now I'm not sure we ever see that.
Look at the charts and real estate was going up 20% a year. That sure seems like a blow off top to me
This is the right response to what is happening in the market
Any suggestions?
There are some stocks in real companies that make money and have pricing power that are on sale right now.
Don't take my advice though my portfolio is down bigly so far this year.
Wait, this market is going lower. Two things to watch are earnings reports and P/E ratios
I think we aren't going to see any E for years I think. P will reduce if the money printer stays off and retail traders on Robinhood stop pumping their paychecks into stock every day (not sure if that really has an impact or not).
We are far from the bottom but a good buy in the past would have been crude oil and refined fuels, physical lumber, scrap copper and non perishable foods.. Those have zenithed this Spring but a few big ones will be advanced battery technology and emerging energy sources since the U.S. electric grid is already close to being maxed out and they are wanting to put a huge load onto it with EV's while shuttering power plants.. Solid state batteries, Lithium iron batteries, graphene based batteries, hybrid super capacitor technology, geothermal power generation and mass water desalination by pumping ocean water to the desert and evaporative extraction of fresh water.. The left over salt sludge can have rare elements extracted and plain old dirty salt waste product can be sold for road deicing in northern states.. With the South West USA reaching a fresh water shortage the value of clean water will go up..
A big opportunity in under the Great Lakes of Erie and Ontario hydro power where the deep slow current that flows West to East could be harnessed to spin turbines..
I have about 400lbs of copper wire in my garage, should I go recycle it?
That decision is up to you but all I see is for it to keep climbing since the cost of mining and processing copper and aluminum is going to keep increasing.. You will get more per pound if you melt it into ingots and find a spot buyer that is local over going to a scrap yard.. I figure you have close to $1,600 worth now..
https://www.macrotrends.net/1476/copper-prices-historical-chart-data
Do you have any company names or resources to suggest for ETFs or something to buy?
Markets getting assholed
By design, people panic sell and the pedophile elites have already created new Biden bucks for themselves and are ready to buy back everything the weak hands sold at any day now.
Could be further dips first, but if you have savings for a few months ahead, now is the time to buy in cheap with about half of your investment resources.
I strongly disagree. Look at the charts, the support levels are considerably below where we are right now. Look how long past crashes took to recover. It's too hard to gauge which companies will do well and which will have to restructure at this moment. Interest rates have only risen for 2-3 months. The nasdaq bubble took 3 years to bottom and this bubble is much larger and spread to all assets. Longs haven't even had to cover yet, employment hasn't changed and we only had one bad gdp and warnings quarter, a recession by definition requires 2 negative quarters and we haven't had 1 yet.
The wild card is the fed printing, but they don't have much room left to do anything. DONT TRY TO CATCH A FALLING KNIFE
Q1 was negative.
You are correct, just barely, but it was
So you’re saying wait for one more quarter before we start buying anything?
It is notable we have hugely over bloated growth and tech stocks and they are about to get absolutely demolished as disposable income dries up for commodities, while they are dealing with supply chain and chip issues.
Stay the fuck away from things that make discretionary goods that use chips. Looking at video cards, looking at Apple big time. Vehicles is iffy because more necessary but still expecting higher cost and less sales as well. TV manufactures, smartdevices.
SaaS companies may be ok if b2b.
Stay away from discretionary sub / streaming service.
First to get cut during disposable income crisis at the consumer level. Cable, phone, satellite, internet. Watch out. People are going to be scrambling to free up personal cash flow by limiting and cutting these things back to afford food and gas.
Those are great things to avoid. What do you recommend watching to buy?
REITs in the self storage sector.
Storage is a diamond in the rough and I anticipate as the housing market becomes more volatile the demand for self storage will increase bolstering occupancy for this sector regardless of economic conditions. Storage is well known to be "recession proof" because it is generally an essential component of moving so it is less affected by a decrease in disposable income levels dropping. It is more of a need for the customer than a want, to sum. Occupancy and rent revenue is also only one factor to the income for these REITs as the property value also consistently appreciates in value generally tracking inflation.
So you essentially will see dividends staying stable as well as the actual share value increase as more people scurry from home to apartments in this upcoming volatile housing market. Demand for storage is not based on want it is based on the velocity - amount/time of people moving.
Of course don't put all your eggs in one basket. But I expect this to perform very well and also am in the back end of the industry so I'm a little biased. But I do have money where my mouth is.
Do your diligence and check it out though for sure. One con of all this is interest rates increasing, some of the big names in self storage have expanded greatly on debt with low interest rates. Fed will continue to hike interest rates which is going to slow growth/expansion by limiting these companies ability to build and buy new facilities. But I think the existing facilities will be thriving.
Be brave, when others are fearful. I'm looking into crypto markets primary, we'll see results whether the knife is falling our bounces back up this week already most likely.
Stocks is too much of a bubble, too much insider trading, and who knows how long the average Joe will be allowed to own and trade stocks.
Be careful out there
I bet we end the week higher than we started. This is a selloff to get suckers short then they turnaround and get the shit squeezed out of them back to 4500
This 👆
I've been fucked in the ass by short squeezes enough to know when a trap is being set.
Same here fren, I'm going down with the ship. I'd rather be broke for a few weeks or months than trusting Joe Bidet. 👌
Puts be printing
Hey, PEP is in the green... I think that's a sign...
Why.. Why is Amazon down but Walmart is up. Why is everything crashing.
Look beyond the US, WM like some others operate in other countries. WM dominates Mexico
First of all nothing was worth what the price indicated for years. None of it was based on solid fundamentals but access to tons of cash and credit. A little of that was obvious. Pandemic: wow look at how the airlines stocks are going up and nobody is traveling. Microsoft: wow look at how their price went up 8% today on the lowest volume day in months. Last fall my 401k climbed so fast that I was in a panic while everyone else was cheering. These things don't sneak up, people just don't pay attention until it breaks.
Amazon has always been a growth company. There is no where left for them to grow at the moment.
Everything is crashing because economic outlook is poor. Tech has no room to grow, and the fed just took away cheap debt. Throw on inflation and you have a lot less wealthy people spending more money for significantly less.
The pedophile elite is dumping to create an artificial crash, triggering plenty of stop loss orders in the process which kicks the price further down.
In the meantime weak hands get scared and panic sell to Biden bucks, which they believe is stable.
The pedophile elite have already printed billions and billions of Biden bucks for themselves, ready to buy back in soon as the dip hits the bottom.
Few assets goes up as some smart people choose to take refugee in safe assets over Biden bucks, think about it, Walmart sells essential stuff, it's a fool proof business idea and they won't take much of a hit during a financial crisis, people need to eat and buy some cheap crap for their homes always.
Remember tho, the crash is artificial, the recovery will be fast and when that happens, don't sit on Biden bucks, invest in assets, buy the dip.
what site is that btw?
Think or swim app from td ameritrade
Need an account to use it?
No, I don't think so. I think you can download it on their site without having funded an acct.
needs an account
As a young investor, ok to stay in till “retirement”? It’s all my Roth.
They are they're doing this to fuck the middle class since they'll just live off on 0% interest international bank loan to live on till the rebound.
I’ll never get involved in the markets after I lost almost everything in 08 but the banks were bailed out. Dirt and precious metals are the best things to invest in.
Gonna roll the dice and buy some Rubles..
How?
You can buy other currencies through a trade hub where’d you buy stocks. I do have to look and see if the Rubles are available through such an exchange. There are some other countries whose economies and currencies are not as bad off as ours is getting.
Wait!
It gets better.......
3340 billion to Ukraine!Another 17?
Hooo Reee Crap!
I want to get off Mr. Stonks Wild Ride
Id care more if any of this stock wealth transferred to any generation other than boomers at the moment. This doesn't affect most people any more.
Jibideen has entered the chat..
You will own nothing and you will be happy. Agenda 2030 this is part of The Great Reset
Biden is doing a hell of a job killing this nation.
Can't 'Build Back Better' unless you...
Tear it all down!
I was half tempted to buy SPY shares when it hit $396 just a little before closing bell. Also since S&P RSI hit low 30s for the last 14 days. Buuuuuut decided against it. Would rather wait for another rally and get in on SH again. I think this market is pretty much going to be nothing but downside biased rollercoaster for awhile.
JNJ up? lol, that's how you know they're getting a payout
Raytheon is down.
Better say Russia is invading somewhere.
My dick was so hard today buying great companies at a massive discount.
Yes, I have been shorting the crap out of the market for a while now.
What kind of risk do you take doing that?
I am shorting using put options. So your risk is limited to the price of the option. Its not as risky as just outright shorting.
Crypto is down too.
Good. Monero is the only useful crypto
Thanks, democreeps. Go, Groomers!
ALLL THAAAT MONEYYYYY injected into the economy in the form of "covid aid" ... and none of it linked to productivity. Sooner or later, it will hit the wall.
I'm down significantly since last week. What's everybody's plan here? Hold?
No and I didn’t even bet in the derby... not a gambler, a rambler I am... it’s worse cause I reap no profits 🤷♀️ Not even a told ya so 😉 But if I had a horse, I’d name her Ireland Pixie Go Braless and that’s still 1000x safer than Hunter Biden’s laptop password 👋
The funny part for me is, I got out of Crypto and was unsure about adding to the 401k, so I just started THIS WEEK investing 10% weekly into it, no match. I get fucked hard on taxes, HARD, and it leaves no other option unless I INC up.
The market is VERY over-priced by historical standards, AND the earnings themselves are inflated by fake wealth effects due to money-printing. There is a long way to fall:
https://www.multpl.com/shiller-pe
Nope
If you are into defensive stocks you are good. See this shit show from a mile away.
Trump will turn the economy and stock market around in 6 months.. biden admin is working to destroy USA economy on purpose.. that's how they win
Dark winter, food shortages, bad economics, grooming. Wheeee.
Good time to DCA some more!
What’s this timeline?
hard assets my nibba
Wait for the Dead Cats Bounce
Yes I am… inverse etfs for the win, play the swings, watch the rsi and macd on the daily.
Why wouldn't this happen? Q said it would crash under Biden and Biden is on his way out.