Looks like you're right, the Baltic's are still trading with Russia and Finland imports from Estonia currently which in turn imports from Russia. Classic virtue signaling.
You laugh but NATO basically equals US taxpayer and our corrupt government will send them oil and monetary relief while I can't afford to fill my tank and American babies(not the illegals one) are on a forced starvation diet.
Roe V Wade being overturned doesn't have anything to do with outlawing abortion. It's kicked to the legislatures where it belongs. Democrat run inner cities will still give out punch cards for a free sandwich after your fifth abortion.
?? Whether we're against it or not is irrelevant, legally that's who has the power to decide.
And it's pragmatic since concentrating all the blacks and libs in areas like California and Chicago for easy access will keep them in corrupt 100% blue states.
Since all liberals are hedonist nihilists, they will probably outfuck us, but it doesn't really matter. We'll win the fuck wars in our red states because we won't kill our babies. All the baby killers will move from red states and will be concentrated in the blue smudges on the map. As the old saying goes, demographics is destiny, and I can't imagine us losing the fuck wars once Roe is officially overturned. You know, come to think of it, I think I've found my calling. I'm going to be a propagandist in the fuck wars.
"It's kicked to the legislatures where it belongs."
I don't think it should belong there.. It does, of course, but I don't understand how this will all work.
Are we going to start considering it murder? What happens if someone travels across state lines to get one? Can their home state charge them with murder?
Let’s take the victories as they come and continue pushing forward instead of trying to act like this is going to be absolved by states like NYC and California
As long as you're admitting you don't care about wholesale slaughter of babies. What pisses me off is the same people who tell me I shouldn't eat chicken wings or a burger cause animal cruelty will pile up dead babies no problem. I don't care about the chickens cause I like wings, I'm willing to accept the morality of my decision. They won't
Sorry but i don't care about blacks and muslims. I hope they get 100% abortions. Well, actually, in their own countries i have nothing against them. I just don't want them here so don't try and guilt trip me please. I ain't crying for aborted blacks
Seriously, any woman getting an abortion usually leans left, most vocal about it are blue haired land whales that shouldn't be reproducing anyways. Give it time natural selection will work its course.
Trump got a 4% increase of Based Blacks supporting MAGA. it's historically higher than any other repub. Black men may have supported maga as high as 1 in 5. and that was only with 1 term.
Oh no,,, I was called a racist.. what will I ever do… facts are facts my friend.. when white folks aren’t the majority in this country the real collapse begins.
Exactly, we're paying. We don't have baby formula on our shelves, but we have billions to defend other countries. What will it be next time: $80 billion for Ukraine and Finland?
Just remembering the recent ongoing deal with Ukraine, Biden will probably send Fins billions of OUR TAX DOLLARS too. America last!!! Stolen elections have consequences, Republicans need to grow some fucking balls and not just sit around sending strongly worded letters and crying about triple quadruple multiples of 100 standards.
Republicans need to grow some fucking balls and not just sit around sending strongly worded letters and crying about triple quadruple multiples of 100 standards
Why would they do anything different. They're all in on it.
They may be going away in more ways than one, seeing as they and Sweden are joining NATO evidently. Maybe Russia will supply them with nuclear power… lump sum, no charge?
They drank too much of their own Kool Aide. You fudge polls long enough, you fake reality long enough, you start to genuinely believe you're the big badass infallible ruler.
I don't want war with Russia either, they're good people, Christian and based. Besides, the west depends a lot on Russia for survival right now with shortages in natural resources and food. Going to war against the hand that feeds you is just retarded.
I would like to broker peace with them. I understand why they hate the West because we've been introducing the Gay American Empire and wars everywhere we go.
The fact that we hold these opinions and they're incredibly unpopular is sad. Most of my normie friends are running Russia evil.exe is retarded.
Saddest thing I saw this past week, V Day anniversary week, was the attempted cancellation of Soviet contributions and heroism in WWII. Obviously no one is defending Stalin, but disrespecting the Soviet soldiers and their living descendants is atrocious. https://www.rferl.org/a/latvia-soviet-monument-removal-ukraine/31846730.html
Yeah, muh “toxic masculinity” that kept so many women and children alive. I’m reading “The Guns Of August “ and sure as Hell don’t envy any of the hundreds of thousands of young men who were sent into the carnage. It’s all profoundly sad that the elites, who know better, trying to cancel the sacrifices of millions. And Zelensky promoting genuine Nazis is beyond comprehension.
I’m reading ’The Guns Of August “ and can hardly put it down. It sheds light on how deeply emotions can run from such direct experience of war and brutality. It’s also strange how these same pieces of ground re-experience so many conflicts. I have relatives who fought in our Civil War, but the stories are so distant now. It’s hard for me to truly grasp the connections that are so fresh in the minds of Europeans.
What you call "soviet contributions and heroism" , is symbols of occupation for us. Not just for Latvia, but the entire former eastern bloc.
There are plenty of muslim buildings all around europe from ottoman times. Turkish contributions and heroism for you, symbols of occupation and conquest for us and the muslims.
How do you feel about desantis making floridians learn about the horrors of communism? Much prefer to be taught the heroism and contributions of communism id assume.
Teach both sides. Trying to cancel someone’s history is dishonest and never helpful. I’m Cherokee, but don’t waste my life hating European occupiers. Hell, I’m glad they brought indoor plumbing and later electricity. The Russians defeated Napoleon and Hitler (obviously w Western allies) and fought on the eastern front in WWI. Imo, they deserve some respect for those contributions. Would you have preferred for your ppl to have lived under Hitler? I empathize with ppt who lived under Stalin and the Red or White Armies, and I appreciate your points. But like the removal of our Civil War statues, the removal of the statue in Riga robs the entire world of the lessons, good and bad, of history.
Yes, im not advocating for any removal, just pointing out the general feeling towards soviet times in eastern europe. We do not equate russians to the heroes that fought the nazis, because of the decades of misery they brought simply overwrote the feeling. Also, i believe there is a way to respect the heroism of the russian people without validating some communist dictator.
Also, my style in the previous comment was very inappropriate and snarky, i apologize for that.
I know, but God has not provided me with people who are as based as I am. I love these guys and I'm known them for over a decade but I'm not going to give up on them. I slowly red pilled one guy on the conflict and at least got him to say fuck the Ukraine.
I'm not going to say Putin is good person but I find it funny how everyone I talk to knows exactly how horrible he is? How do they know this? They don't even know the corruption that Joe and Hunter are involved in. But somehow they know Putin makes everyone who speaks up disappear. But not the Clintons, that's a conspiracy theory. We are condition to keep living out the Cold War. Now we have a hot one.
They trust biased fake news media, that's the problem. Putin may not be an angel, but neither is he as evil land corrupt as western fake news media claims he is. I'm pretty sure Bidet, Gates, Swab and the other globalists are way more corrupt and evil than Putin.
Putin does a lot to make Russia self sustainable, especially in important areas like natural resources and food. Which is great for the people obviously.
They know, they just don’t care. Distill their thinking down to the roots. Collectivist/constructivist mindset that believes that suffering and inequality can be solved by central government. Hypocrisy doesn’t matter to someone that thinks that way. Hypocrisy holds weight to those that think humans have a nature that isn’t perfectable.
Russia has less cultural links to Finland than it does to Ukraine? Makes me wonder what the Russians would do to the Fins giving what they're doing to their close brothers.
Relations/conflicts between rivals can often be more fierce than relations/conflicts between non rivals.
For example, Spain and Portugal had bad relations for centuries and so, Portugal allied with Britain for protection in the 14th century, which remains one of the oldest long standing political alliances today.
Spain and Portugal are closer culturally than Portugal is to Britain, and yet they allied with Britain to protect themselves from potential Spanish conquest.
Going back to the topic at hand, I have not seen an actual military threat from Russia towards Finland or Sweden. All I hear is fear mongering and now both nations are needlessly trying to become NATO members knowing the reaction thats likely to get.
If you knew the history of the Soviet Union, you would know it was really Soviet Russia.
Yes... they had other ethnicities like Belarusians, Estonians, Ukrainians, Kazakhstanis etc, but Russians were the first class citizens. The non-Russians were forced to learn Russian and sometimes their native language and culture was banned. The best factories, cities, villages, food supplies, opportunities (like being exchange students) and such were in lands where the majority of the native population was Russian, particularly in the European part of the country. Powerful party leaders and government leaders were almost exclusively ethnic Russian, with Stalin (who was Georgian) being the biggest exception. Non-Russian Soviets only got good treatment if they were successful athletes, KGB agents, scientists etc. Whenever foreign tourists, escpecially western tourists, visited the Soviet Union, tours and trips (with minders) were only focused on the Russians. It wasn't until the 60s that other ethnicities got the same opportunities available as the Russians and were able to rise up the ranks in the government or military.
Why am I mentioning this? This means it was Russians who invaded Finland. It was Russian soldiers and Russian military commanders and Russian government officials. It wasn't Latvians or Azerbaijanis. This is why most countries in Europe use Soviet and Russian interchangeably.
He knows he doesn't have much longer and he's doing this to cement his legacy. It makes perfect sense if you imagine that he's on his way to retirement, or worse, sick with some fatal illness.
No /s required. Joining NATO would be the best protection for Finland against Russia.
The part between announcing the intent to join and actually joining is the risky part, but with how badly the Ukraine invasion is going for Russia, now is probably the best time.
If Ukraine had been a NATO member they could expect NATO (American) troops on the ground. Russia wouldn't want to fight NATO directly and probably wouldn't have invaded in the first place
Ukraine in NATO was never an option really - occupied territories after 2014 made it impossible. Training and cooperation yes but not membership. NATO can only accept new members if they actually improve security situation of the alliance, not bring new liabilities. That's why Sweden and Finland will fit right in.
That’s what I keep asking. None of these talking heads or idiots with a Ukraine flag in their handle think about the fact that NATO is a bullshit organization. Everyone is on this “Putin is the boogeyman” train but these morons are asking for it. So you’re threatening to join a corrupt and obsolete group which would infringe on Russia’s border, and now you’re mad because Putin isn’t a fan of that. Fuck NATO, the UN, EU, and all the rest of them. Name me an international acronym organization in this day and age that isn’t a total shit sandwich.
Only if you do anything with your draft notice but throw it in the fucking garbage.
These fucks are going to do everything they can to drag us all into a world scale conflict, where they get to throw bodies at a globohomo meat grinder.
When that happens, and you get that draft notice, you'd do well to remember that cigarette lighters exist.
I don't know about world war but it's definitely at present the biggest proxy war in history however that could change at any moment at the rate things are escalating.
You fucking retard. Instead of talking out of your ass (again) why don't you go look up how Sweden generates electricity first. Then maybe you'll understand what an embarrassing dope you are.
Thanks for your masterful cut-and-paste job! So now, based on the information we see that about 4% of Sweden's electricity is generated from burning garbage, wood or oil; but we have no information on the percentages of each.
So please explain why you believe that Sweden will have to burn oil to fill the void left by Russia. Because the chances are that nuclear or hydro will be used and Greta won't go REEEE at all.
Yea, everyone in Sweden has a black hole for garbage disposal, not a single bag of garbage is ever generated in Sweden, and the country is not covered in 95% forest, Norway doesn't have any oil to sell and oh, there's no sewage either so no bio gas can be produced. 🤡 Honk Honk 🤡
So please explain why you believe that Sweden will have to burn oil to fill the void left by Russia.
See the 4459 MW production from wind. Soon as the wind stops blowing every surrounding country won't just shut down all their industry because there's no power. They're gonna demand around 5000 MW of power from Sweden no matter how much wind there is. Plus another 1000 MW that Russia won't deliver.
Now where do you find 6000 MW of power out of thin air in Sweden? Sure the dams in the north could certainly produce that and more. But the power lines can not transmit more than they already do.
Zone 3 has shut down it's nuclear power plants, even with the wind blowing it imports 7000 MW from zone 1 and 2. Not to mention that zone 4 is even worse off and the European continent, Germany, Poland etc.
This leaves fossil fuels as the only backup alternative... what you thought the green party where actually green? Fuck them. Soon as the wind stops 5000 MW is gonna have to be generated in zone 3, plus another 1000 MW now to supply Finland.
For every 330MW of power 70 metric tons of oil is needed, that's one fully loaded 32 wheeler tanker truck. These plants are not built inland, you need them to be close to a harbor in order to deliver oil by tanker ships. Closest harbor to Finland in zone 3 is in Stockholm, and that's exactly where the fossil fuel backup power generators are located.
Now you do the math on how much emission 1273 metric tons of oil per hour will produce. The great forests of Sweden will be able to clean that up, but Stockholm is gonna be covered in smog, that's a fact. These plants are very old and designed for backup power only.
I appreciate hearing your rationale. But I see little alternative for Finland. One question:
You said, "But the power lines can not transmit more than they already do." It seems odd that the power lines coming from the dams in the north do not have any capacity beyond their normal production. I'd be very surprised if that was true. Because otherwise, why would they knowing limit the capacity of power generation by building insufficient line capacity? Why wouldn't they build out to be able to expand their market and lower costs?
It's not that the power lines where reduced in capacity. They where once built to support 7M people, now there's over 10M people in Sweden. There also used to be nuclear power plants in zone 3 and 4 which means less power would need to be transferred in the first place.
Originally this grid was also not connected to Germany, Poland or UK. In fact, UK connected just a few months ago. But, all the power needed by the European continent from the Nordpool market would also have to pass through Sweden. It's been running at it's maximum capacity for a very long time, and if more power is need, it must be produced in zone 3 or 4.
Earlier this year Germany had to shut down most of its railway cargo traffic because the grid didn't have enough power. It's also been a common occurrence since last autumn that local industry has to be shut down to keep the grid stable. Short-ish blackouts have also become more common in recent years.
As I understand it, the networks of European countries are interconnected, so that they can buy electricity if needed or sell their surplus. I'm not sure how it works on a technical level, but would assume it is similar to grid balancing.
Not all of them, but they are indeed connected in chunks with complex rules telling you when yo export/import and how much. Germany, Poland and UK are all connected to Nordpool right now, where the Nordic and the Baltic countries are connected. Russia export to this market, and UK typically imports. https://www.svk.se/en/national-grid/the-control-room/
Spez, looks like Finland is now paying 12x more for electricity than Sweden, today's lesson. Don't bite the hand that feeds you ;-)
Problem is, renewable energy totally fucked that balance in the ass. When there's no sun or wind, there's no sun or wind in most of Europe at the same time. And when there's sun and wind you end up with too much electricity.
Europe has a common electricity market. Prices are dynamically determined based on supply and demand.
Germany for example bounces back and forth between having to import electricity at a premium and having to pay other countries to take their excess production.
Not sure that's entirely true. Wind varies greatly depending on the location at any given time, even withing a single country. As for the sun, at night there is of course no sunlight in all of Europe, the weather and the resulting cloud coverage at any given moment however also varies greatly depending on the location. It is true however that renewable energy sources a lot less predictable compared to traditional sources.
You cannot ignore the burgeoning use of storage batteries. Both at utilities as well as distributed. That smoothes out the supply/demand curves for electricity. Look at emerging battery tech including molten salt and flow batteries which are being deployed in large-scale stationary storage projects, such as 200MW/800MWh vanadium flow battery project in Dalian, China and 108MW Sodium Sulphur battery system in Abu Dhabi.
"When there's no sun or wind, there's no sun or wind in most of Europe at the same time."
Im sorry what, sun i might agree, but wind?!
Wind is not a big homogenous area drawn over europe that says all wind are the same here. Even within a small country like NL or Belgium, the coastal weather is very different from the weather near the german border. The coasts are almost always windy, even if the wind doesn't reach much inland. Big storms that reach the english channel might take 2-3 days to reach Poland or Hungary.
So let me try to us understand this.
So if there is good weather in florida it means there is good weather throughout the US does it?
It may be idiotic but that is how it works thanks to the EU.
The price of electricity becomes negative when there's too much supply in one country and little demand in others. Which means power plants have to pay money to feed electricity into the European grid. Thanks to legal and technical requirements they can't just shut down either.
I understand the problems inherent in shutting down. But there are certainly ways to increase and decrease output. Perhaps not with solar (except when you're using it in conjunction with storage) but all of the other means of power generation can be dialed up and down.
I am still unclear on what happens to the surplus electricity. Even if my country is being paid to take it- don't we have to then do something with it? And if we can deal with the excess- why can't the country who generated the excess?
Exactly the same way it works in the United States. The power grid is not just a line from one supplier to a consumer, it's a large interconnected grid that can be balanced from many directions by many suppliers. You can even generate your own power and sell it back to the power company.
It would have been fine without the feds shutting producers down with fines. Do not get me wrong about the good old boy system cutting corners they never thought they would come around after they fortified their positions with "cheap" labor. That is another discussion. The feds handicapped the grid in Texas. Ercrap wanted to increase production before icemageddon. The feds decided to teach Texas a lesson, and charge it's population with the bill thru insurance losses, and premiums.
Around ten that did not get out much were affected by federal regulations that kept private companies offline. I was not surprised when this topic made the local MSM a month or so ago claiming over 200 froze to death. That claim is pure propaganda. Many more die from the heat without global warming every year here. The local news should have had a segment with a charity handing out free heaters the week before. I grew up in the northern Midwest, and worked outside in the temperatures that people supposedly died from inside their homes in Texas. I know a story about a Pandemic that people died during as well.
Why were you downvoted for being correct? From the article, "According to Reuters, Russian utility Inter RAO will suspend the power supply to Finland due to non-payment since May 6."
Because this site has become a patsy for Putin. I never expected to see a bunch of media skeptics immediately swallow every piece of news that comes out of Russian media but here we are.
Idiot. I never said a thing about Ukraine. Where's your skeptic brain now when everyone around you is saying to trust Russian state media? Doesn't that seem incredibly fucking wrong to you, or are you Putin's bitch now too?
No but I'm sure as hell not going to believe a government run news source. What the fuck have we learned from the past decade? Don't believe the media unless it is controlled by the enemy of our enemy?
This used to be a place where you can reliably find skeptics calling out bullshit news reports, and now they bend over backwards to push Russian narratives from Russian state media sites. How far we have fallen!
We haven't fallen. Most MAGA folks are not here. I dug into the visits and it's still very very low. Most of the activity is bots. Most votes are from socks. Most of the posts are bots. Either screengrabs of bot tweets to straight up dear diary posts. The RNC or someone is doing all they can to divide the movement. This place does not represent MAGA. Go to a Trump Rally and ask someone if they visit this place. They laugh and say no or they don't even know about it.
There are a lot of Russians here. Not just fanboys and simps, actual Russian nationals who are full-time shills. And they are pretty good at shilling too. But they also know what's really up with the war and how they're getting punked by Ukraine and how their army has embarrassed itself by its incompetence. They also know that the poor pricks that live in that authoritarian shithole are finding out what is going on and that they are on borrowed time.
I don't blame Russia not wanting Ukraine to join NATO. I would do the same thing. All of this is planned theater to grab land and shuffle around money that goes back to the DC Bureaucrats, Politicians and Contractors. Soon we will have a situation where we have to invest in our own weaponry and deploy hundreds of thousands so MORE money can be passed around. It's the typical DC Double Dip. It is getting old and we should have never been involved. Positioning Ukraine for a NATO alliance was a serious step to provoke conflict. All done purposely. They need to inflict burden upon us so a series of planned decisions have reason when all of it is staged to help a small group become profitable.
What lands do the DC bureaucrats want to grab and why? I don't believe that Ukraine was "positioned" for NATO membership. Russia had already invaded and annexed Crimea years ago. They are the ones who initially stirred up the shit in the Donbas region and have supported and encouraged that insurgency for years. Russia has made its' intentions about Ukraine very clear. Frankly, I see the only reasonable way out for Putin as orchestrated neutrality like was done with Austria.
Honestly that just an idiotic way of looking at it. 70+ mil votes for trump.
We do know people go to the rallies here. We see it. Or god forbid you actually go to one and still post here. We were and always have been separated from the general Trump supporters.
Just because you expect a random at a rally to admit they visit here to be proof of anything is ignorant.
No doubt. The speed at which this whole site decided to bend over and let Putin fuck then in the ass is head-spinning. Last gasp of the skeptic is to believe anything the enemy of their enemy says.
Truth. It's one big gay sausage fest with MAGA cartoon characters competing to see who can spring the biggest outrage boner. The dopier and more laughable the story, the hotter the fire burns. It's hard to know whether this site attracts rubes or creates them. Whichever it is, all vestiges of healthy skepticism seem to get checked at the door.
Yeah preach. I'm pretty sure I only get downvoted by the division shills and the flat earth idiots who still think memes will pave the way to a glorious golden future while they jerk off to pointless rallies and try to out-shock each other with big talk.
They want order out of chaos and they're achieving both..
The slow dismantling of western society because it achieves their end goal. They are moving forward with the eco-terrorists "Earth-First" depopulation agenda. If they can kill the western life-style then it eliminates China producing carbon. 2 birds with one stone. If the middle class is destroyed then it will by design collapse the rest of the world. Once you have no money you go to the only ones (them) who can feed you.
It's a 100% by design demolition of modern society to be rebuilt in the globalists vision. It's called "THE GREAT RESET".
The entire world relies on the western economy as it drives the demand. It's basically the same thing as pulling the foundation from under a building and watching it fall.. Then they swoop in and pick up the pieces monopolizing everything buying everything in sight for pennies on the dollar.
There is no Q, loser. It's an elaborate LARP to make people like you look even stupider (assuming that's possible). Glad you're here vanquishing the globalists with your meme cannon. Trust the plan!!
Oh I see: To become one with Q, you first have to deny him? Very cool? The ladies must just flock to a guy like you! I still think you're a loser, though.
As a Finn, this is good news for us. We should not be energy dependent on Russia under any circumstance, even Trump warned Germany and other Nato countries of being energy dependent on Russia. As a small country, with a 1200 km border with Russia, there is no other alternative than to join Nato if we want to ensure our independence. We have a reservist army of 450,000 troops, high number wich many Nato countries cannot even pull those numbers. Russia as a country is a not a trustworthy neighbour, period. We have many native russians living here, and there is no doubt that eventually Putin will pull a Hitler and say that these russians are discriminated and that Finland forced his hand to invade our country to ensure the existence of the russian people. Many here in the comments have pointed out that Russia today is not the same as the Soviet Union, oh really please tell me more. Putin idolises Stalin and has visions of old Soviet borders. He is a true communist in disguise, not a queer faggot LGBT american communist, but a true communist. My grandfather fought the communist pigs in WW2, what did you americans do? You aided them with supplies and money, great job I must say.
I'll have to look into that as I'm not familiar with Russian leadership during that time. The name Yanukovych sounds familiar but that's as much as my memory gives me.
The problem is more the power itself, not so much the production from gas or oil. The power lines are already overloaded, and now they need another GW. The power can be produced in the rural parts of the country as well as in neighboring countries, but there's no way to transmit it to where it's needed.
That is inner city apartments where liberals and leftists lives. As for the rural areas and the industry it'll be fine, all of that will still get all the power they need.
Putin should send Finland's number to a collection agency. And then to whoever makes those calls asking about your car's extended warranty, just to be a real asshole.
I love those car warranty calls! I always ask them what car they are calling about, but for security reasons they can’t tell me. They need me to verify which vehicle, and I yell, I don’t know, you called me! Then they stop calling for awhile 😂
From the article, "According to Reuters, Russian utility Inter RAO will suspend the power supply to Finland due to non-payment since May 6." Is this because Russia wants payments in rubbles and Finland just isn't converting their currency?
Yes. And even worse, so many countries are buying rubles that they've skyrocketed in value, meaning that cheap power you bought now costs 50% more after the exchange rate
I do have to wonder where all those WaPo and NYT writers about how the US President is stoking WW3 are currently hiding, amidst all these flashpoints that can lead to, you know, WW3.
Or, we could go with a far more affordable option, or a far more sustainable option. I also think the "we" part is hilarious. The countries in question have smaller populations than my state, and these green energy initiatives cost them a fuck ton. Only plausible for them because they are activists willing to pay out the ass for it on an extremely small scale.
I was actually watching Russian news year ago before my cable company cut it off. I have since cut off the cable. Not that I trust Russian news either but very different stories. I'm no big fan of Russia but Putin is a far superior man and leader than Biden. I do admit I am becoming a bit envious of a country with strong sane leadership looking like it might shift the world order in its favor.
Putin singlehandedly made Russia great again. It was a dysfunctional country after the collapse of the Soviet Union and now 20 years later it’s ready to take its rightful place in the world as a major world power once again. Imagine if America had a Vladimir Putin.
It is a corrupt shithole and always has been. Putin's greatest accomplishment is bringing greater efficiency to stealing from the people of Russia. Estimates is that Putin, personally has stolen between $100 and $200 billion dollars. Go take the Youtube tour of his 250,000 square foot dacha on the Black Sea. Fuck him and fuck all corrupt dictators.
This “corrupt shithole” is totally humiliating the western powers in the world stage. The “corrupt shithole” alongside with China will be a major player this century as well.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.........hahahahahahahahahahahahaha......You're no fucking patriot. Go volunteer for the Russian army, they need more cannon fodder and are running low on retards, as 18,000 are dead already.
Janes. C'mon and ride the short bus on down to the Russian Army recruiting center. They don't care that you're slow OR a faggot. Only that you'll accept your salary in rubles.
The American nation predates the U.S. constitution. The Americans were here before any of this system came into place. I am loyal to that nation. I agree, I would love to go back to the roots of the founding, but however we also have to be pragmatic and be a realist. We live in a vagabond society. Liberty puts the responsibility of governing the society to the people, but if the people are a bunch of pants-sagging vagabonds dollar store looters, you get a rotten society which we have now. What we need is LAW AND ORDER and if we need force to achieve that then it is necessary.
Also, can we put a stop to this New World Order thinking that America is an idea? This has what got us to this shithole in the first place. The idea that literally anyone can be an American as long as they believe in our system. That’s bullshit. America is not an idea. America is a certain land, a people, and a home. The flag does not represent liberal democracy or liberal philosophical values such as freedom or rights. The flag represent the American NATION. The people. The flag represents my country, the flag represents my home, the flag represents my people, the flag represents my family, the flag represents ME. And not the the constitution or these ideas.
I guess "seethe" is this week's buzzword or something? I though we were still on "groomer"- which, coincidentally- fits you pretty well sweet boy. I think Putin's leukemia will get him long before that ever happens.
For a besieged country teetering on the verge of defeat, the endless flow of Western leaders, heads of state and diplomats visiting Kiev like they were on holiday seems remarkable. The 155 howitzers showed up this week. They use AI processors to acquire targets. Given the shit logistics demonstrated by the Red Army- there will be a lot of Russian artillerymen killed this weekend. BTW, did you see the news feature about the bloodbath at the pontoon bridge river crossing today? I understand 1000 Russians died on that riverbank. Face it Russia will lose. It will take the first exit ramp out, Putin cannot win because his generals do not believe in him- only fear him.
Nah, you’re just a larping edgelord with a victim mentality and victim complex.
The American nation predates the U.S. constitution. The Americans were here before any of this system came into place. I am loyal to that nation.
Got it, your loyal to Britain
Liberty puts the responsibility of governing the society to the people, but if the people are a bunch of pants-sagging vagabonds dollar store looters, you get a rotten society which we have now. What we need is LAW AND ORDER and if we need force to achieve that then it is necessary.
You think you’re the only person who’s existence is justified and your bold LAW AND ORDER call is just a too pussified attempt to say you want a dictatorship without having to actually own it and say you want a dictatorship.
Also, can we put a stop to this New World Order thinking that America is an idea? This has what got us to this shithole in the first place. The idea that literally anyone can be an American as long as they believe in our system. That’s bullshit. America is not an idea. America is a certain land, a people, and a home. The flag does not represent liberal democracy or liberal philosophical values such as freedom or rights. The flag represent the American NATION. The people. The flag represents my country, the flag represents my home, the flag represents my people, the flag represents my family, the flag represents ME. And not the the constitution or these ideas.
So we’ve fallen from republicans viewing America as the great shining beacon on the hill, to absolutely nothing but a flag. A Flag that only represents land. Like I said, anti-America. I understand though, victim mentality bitches give up on things easily and regularly.
EDIT: also, stop using the Lord’s name in vain.
Go fuck your self you god damned anti-American moron.
You’re a victim complexed douchebag with a small town high school education and a lot of time spent on your bathroom phd while shitting, that has gotten yourself so wrapped up in your perceived victim hood that you’ve built up enough imaginary grievances that you’re now ready for the next step.
Like the basement dwelling incel eventually lashes out in violence against those who he perceives to have wronged him, you’re now feeling froggy and ready.
You’ve been manipulated, friend. You need to learn to think for yourself, stop being a victim complex little bitch, and stop just consuming rage bait that tells you what you want to hear.
Maybe touch some grass.
You’re a keyboard revolutionary and a paper tiger just hoping to graduate to the next level where all your problems can be solved by violence against anyone you dislike.
You’re goose-stepping, anti-American, traitor and you know it.
Lol yeah shut up, you can cheerlead for the gay anal empire all you’d like, but I don’t really want to pledge my allegiance to child trannies, homosexuals, abortions, hooked nosed usurers, diversity and the like. I don’t owe loyalty to a government that wants me dead because I’m white. You should join the military and die for Israel already, that’s the most patriotic thing you can do for the modern America. You sound like a boomer though so 👍🏻
Hahahahahahahaha.... So the savior of the white world has had 18,000 of it. And their own white people killed in battle already who themselves are killing thousands of other white people (including women, children and elderly non-combatants). So you can claim (without any basis in fact) that NATO (which is overwhelmingly white) is gunning for whitey. But the Russian invasion has already cost the lives of tens of thousands white people. And before this is over, there will be tens of thousands more dead white people.
P.S. Russia is by no means, "free". You can be imprisoned for 15 years for calling this invasion an invasion or war. And you free access to the internet is blocked. Is that what you want for your version of freedom?
Bye Finland!
Don't worry, Nato will come to their rescue! (Hahahahahahahahahha)
Sweden will cover for it https://www.svk.se/en/national-grid/the-control-room/, by burning oil, Greta will go REEEEE. 🤡
REEEE-Greta the Globognome: when fetal alcohol syndrome goes wrong.
EDIT: if she and Hogg had uhbébé: snub-nosed piglet. But steriles don't breed...
She's gonna try to stick a fork in the outlet only to find out there is no power. 🤡
it is merely 10% and for non-payment...nothing to do with NATO, so wouldn't be 'that' devastating tbh. It sure is spicy though!
Looks like you're right, the Baltic's are still trading with Russia and Finland imports from Estonia currently which in turn imports from Russia. Classic virtue signaling.
Greta is a resurrected abortion.
You laugh but NATO basically equals US taxpayer and our corrupt government will send them oil and monetary relief while I can't afford to fill my tank and American babies(not the illegals one) are on a forced starvation diet.
that's the sad reality of it
And send baby formula.
Dont worry. Once abortion is illegal little black babies will be everywhere.
Roe V Wade being overturned doesn't have anything to do with outlawing abortion. It's kicked to the legislatures where it belongs. Democrat run inner cities will still give out punch cards for a free sandwich after your fifth abortion.
And removes our right to privacy.
Regulating what goods and services can be provided never had anything to do with privacy.
The states should be allowed to decide if murder is ok?
Makes no sense. If you're against abortion, you should be against it everywhere
?? Whether we're against it or not is irrelevant, legally that's who has the power to decide.
And it's pragmatic since concentrating all the blacks and libs in areas like California and Chicago for easy access will keep them in corrupt 100% blue states.
Since all liberals are hedonist nihilists, they will probably outfuck us, but it doesn't really matter. We'll win the fuck wars in our red states because we won't kill our babies. All the baby killers will move from red states and will be concentrated in the blue smudges on the map. As the old saying goes, demographics is destiny, and I can't imagine us losing the fuck wars once Roe is officially overturned. You know, come to think of it, I think I've found my calling. I'm going to be a propagandist in the fuck wars.
I only said that because I was replying to
"It's kicked to the legislatures where it belongs."
I don't think it should belong there.. It does, of course, but I don't understand how this will all work.
Are we going to start considering it murder? What happens if someone travels across state lines to get one? Can their home state charge them with murder?
Let’s take the victories as they come and continue pushing forward instead of trying to act like this is going to be absolved by states like NYC and California
Not true in Texas. Which you might not know is a fairly big place with democrat cities.
My sides lol- good use of language right there
Laughing all the way to oblivion
I dont care about abortions. Sorry.
As long as you're admitting you don't care about wholesale slaughter of babies. What pisses me off is the same people who tell me I shouldn't eat chicken wings or a burger cause animal cruelty will pile up dead babies no problem. I don't care about the chickens cause I like wings, I'm willing to accept the morality of my decision. They won't
If that's how you feel, then fine. Just own it
Sorry but i don't care about blacks and muslims. I hope they get 100% abortions. Well, actually, in their own countries i have nothing against them. I just don't want them here so don't try and guilt trip me please. I ain't crying for aborted blacks
Hey, no chicken ever fucking mugged me lol
I find abortion to be a sometimes useful and justifiable evil. Like war.
Millions of Trump voters are pro choice FYI.
Downvote the slider fag plz pedes.
Seriously, any woman getting an abortion usually leans left, most vocal about it are blue haired land whales that shouldn't be reproducing anyways. Give it time natural selection will work its course.
No, lefty women who get abortions shout about it like its some fucking achievement. Righty women do it too but keep it quiet. Lets not pretend.
Arm fetuses for self defense
How about putting explosives in every black fetus that detonate on delivery? i reckon people would vote for that
Margaret Sanger has entered the room...
Margaret Sanger has left the room actually.
Planned Parenthood's goal is/was to genocide blacks through abortion. They can't do that if abortion is outlawed.
Yes, I know. Celt seemed to be bemoaning that fact thus my comment.
Margaret Sanger was correct.
Well, why don’t they just outlaw gun crime in Chicago then?
Voting Trump
They will never vote trump
They did the last election. They're not as stupid as Dems think they are.
So you're telling me that they were able to 1.) Go online, 2.) Register to vote, 3.) Find a polling place, 4.) Vote?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Next you're going to tell me Hillary eats babies! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Babylon Bee, if you're looking for writers, I'm available.
Trump got a 4% increase of Based Blacks supporting MAGA. it's historically higher than any other repub. Black men may have supported maga as high as 1 in 5. and that was only with 1 term.
Full of Mexicans and black kids… yay
yeah..great..cant wait...
Fuck off racist Ralph Rogers
Oh no,,, I was called a racist.. what will I ever do… facts are facts my friend.. when white folks aren’t the majority in this country the real collapse begins.
Boomers love their “oh I’ll call them a racist, that’ll show them” bullshit.
Only people that care about that shit are boomers and leftists.
Fuck off politically correct handshake faggot.
You fucking faggot.
Go back to reddit.
o/
No, they'll go into the inner city cesspools because nothing is illegal there.
Yeah? Do you think the authorities would clamp down on a food truck selling based black babies on a bed of rocket or other veggies?
Exactly, we're paying. We don't have baby formula on our shelves, but we have billions to defend other countries. What will it be next time: $80 billion for Ukraine and Finland?
They do this chess game so Chyna goes HAM when America is in total ruins.
The stunning and brave woke feminazi Finnish Prime Minister must be defended!!!!
Isn't she fat or is that their health minister?
I was thinking they could liposuction her and burn the fat as fuel, problem solved yo.
Just remembering the recent ongoing deal with Ukraine, Biden will probably send Fins billions of OUR TAX DOLLARS too. America last!!! Stolen elections have consequences, Republicans need to grow some fucking balls and not just sit around sending strongly worded letters and crying about triple quadruple multiples of 100 standards.
When they EVEN do that!!!
Why would they do anything different. They're all in on it.
Not even letters now. Just strongly worded Tweets.
Useful idiots will update their profile pics with 🇫🇮 .
Surely that will make Putin reconsider.
Nah June is coming up, it'll be fucking rainbows everywhere and all liberals will be screaming for butt stuff.
❤️❤️🇫🇮 🌈 ❤️ ❤️
US will shortly be paying for Finland's power.
That's the excuse they're gonna tell you, in reality those money will end up somewhere else.
You can tell who doesn't read the article by how quickly they comment.
Yeah, its only one tenth of their power.
one TENTH. you cant spin up that much power overnight.
They may be going away in more ways than one, seeing as they and Sweden are joining NATO evidently. Maybe Russia will supply them with nuclear power… lump sum, no charge?
If you don't join you can be invaded lol
I dont get why these clowns keep antagonizing Russia.
They drank too much of their own Kool Aide. You fudge polls long enough, you fake reality long enough, you start to genuinely believe you're the big badass infallible ruler.
gobble gobble
95% chance of Hilary winning. Never forget the epitome of hubris.
Never get high on your own supply.
Seriously. I want to not fight Russia. I just wanna leave them alone.
I don't want war with Russia either, they're good people, Christian and based. Besides, the west depends a lot on Russia for survival right now with shortages in natural resources and food. Going to war against the hand that feeds you is just retarded.
I would like to broker peace with them. I understand why they hate the West because we've been introducing the Gay American Empire and wars everywhere we go.
The fact that we hold these opinions and they're incredibly unpopular is sad. Most of my normie friends are running Russia evil.exe is retarded.
Saddest thing I saw this past week, V Day anniversary week, was the attempted cancellation of Soviet contributions and heroism in WWII. Obviously no one is defending Stalin, but disrespecting the Soviet soldiers and their living descendants is atrocious. https://www.rferl.org/a/latvia-soviet-monument-removal-ukraine/31846730.html
Its not a surprise though, todays shitlibs HATE sacrifice. they HATE the heroes that gave us our freedoms. they wish for every brave mans failure.
fuck the libs
Yeah, muh “toxic masculinity” that kept so many women and children alive. I’m reading “The Guns Of August “ and sure as Hell don’t envy any of the hundreds of thousands of young men who were sent into the carnage. It’s all profoundly sad that the elites, who know better, trying to cancel the sacrifices of millions. And Zelensky promoting genuine Nazis is beyond comprehension.
About 60-70 percent of them were indistinguishable from animals. Let’s not sugarcoat history. What didn’t get raped East of the US/UK held territory.
I’m reading ’The Guns Of August “ and can hardly put it down. It sheds light on how deeply emotions can run from such direct experience of war and brutality. It’s also strange how these same pieces of ground re-experience so many conflicts. I have relatives who fought in our Civil War, but the stories are so distant now. It’s hard for me to truly grasp the connections that are so fresh in the minds of Europeans.
What you call "soviet contributions and heroism" , is symbols of occupation for us. Not just for Latvia, but the entire former eastern bloc. There are plenty of muslim buildings all around europe from ottoman times. Turkish contributions and heroism for you, symbols of occupation and conquest for us and the muslims. How do you feel about desantis making floridians learn about the horrors of communism? Much prefer to be taught the heroism and contributions of communism id assume.
Teach both sides. Trying to cancel someone’s history is dishonest and never helpful. I’m Cherokee, but don’t waste my life hating European occupiers. Hell, I’m glad they brought indoor plumbing and later electricity. The Russians defeated Napoleon and Hitler (obviously w Western allies) and fought on the eastern front in WWI. Imo, they deserve some respect for those contributions. Would you have preferred for your ppl to have lived under Hitler? I empathize with ppt who lived under Stalin and the Red or White Armies, and I appreciate your points. But like the removal of our Civil War statues, the removal of the statue in Riga robs the entire world of the lessons, good and bad, of history.
Yes, im not advocating for any removal, just pointing out the general feeling towards soviet times in eastern europe. We do not equate russians to the heroes that fought the nazis, because of the decades of misery they brought simply overwrote the feeling. Also, i believe there is a way to respect the heroism of the russian people without validating some communist dictator. Also, my style in the previous comment was very inappropriate and snarky, i apologize for that.
Sounds like you need new friends, fren
I know, but God has not provided me with people who are as based as I am. I love these guys and I'm known them for over a decade but I'm not going to give up on them. I slowly red pilled one guy on the conflict and at least got him to say fuck the Ukraine.
Good on you for at least turning away one from the idiocy. Yeah fuck The Ukraine!
I'm not going to say Putin is good person but I find it funny how everyone I talk to knows exactly how horrible he is? How do they know this? They don't even know the corruption that Joe and Hunter are involved in. But somehow they know Putin makes everyone who speaks up disappear. But not the Clintons, that's a conspiracy theory. We are condition to keep living out the Cold War. Now we have a hot one.
They trust biased fake news media, that's the problem. Putin may not be an angel, but neither is he as evil land corrupt as western fake news media claims he is. I'm pretty sure Bidet, Gates, Swab and the other globalists are way more corrupt and evil than Putin.
Putin does a lot to make Russia self sustainable, especially in important areas like natural resources and food. Which is great for the people obviously.
They know, they just don’t care. Distill their thinking down to the roots. Collectivist/constructivist mindset that believes that suffering and inequality can be solved by central government. Hypocrisy doesn’t matter to someone that thinks that way. Hypocrisy holds weight to those that think humans have a nature that isn’t perfectable.
If only someone had thought of a solution to that problem. Something final
This is exactly why our government desperately wants war with Russia.
What are you talking about, we should absolutely be orchestrating the collapse of the last solid-majority white global superpower
/s
I want them to leave us alone, and us to leave them alone. We have a lot in common with Russia culturally.
Agreed. I really like Russian culture.
Both Sweden and Finland has non elected puppet prime ministers currently, just like the US.
*women
they must have come from the same Jankowicz school of sucking power dick to censor the normies.
Imagine my shock. The people who will spill zero blood are lusting for war.
Have to keep the useful idiots distracted so they don't realize what is being done to them.
They want their war!
Finland wants to join NATO. Hope they have a way to buy natural gas from the EU.
What the fuck is the point of joining nato? Ukraine just proved you don't need to be a member to get flooded with billions of dollars.
NATO is literally just a wealth transfer agenda from America to whichever parasite wants "free" money.
So to Biden and his family then?
As well as our own government grifters, but mainly international welfare at the struggle America tax payers expense.
For protection against Russia.
Just like most of Europe, Finland has been invaded many times by Russia.
The Winter war was 80 years ago. Russia does not have the close cultural links to Finland that they have with Ukraine.
Russia has less cultural links to Finland than it does to Ukraine? Makes me wonder what the Russians would do to the Fins giving what they're doing to their close brothers.
Relations/conflicts between rivals can often be more fierce than relations/conflicts between non rivals.
For example, Spain and Portugal had bad relations for centuries and so, Portugal allied with Britain for protection in the 14th century, which remains one of the oldest long standing political alliances today.
Spain and Portugal are closer culturally than Portugal is to Britain, and yet they allied with Britain to protect themselves from potential Spanish conquest.
Going back to the topic at hand, I have not seen an actual military threat from Russia towards Finland or Sweden. All I hear is fear mongering and now both nations are needlessly trying to become NATO members knowing the reaction thats likely to get.
Ive met many Scandinavian gals I'd like to invade.
Maybe you will get the chance to take in a refuge or two.
Nope, bullshit, I'm not falling for this again.
If you knew the history of the Soviet Union, you would know it was really Soviet Russia.
Yes... they had other ethnicities like Belarusians, Estonians, Ukrainians, Kazakhstanis etc, but Russians were the first class citizens. The non-Russians were forced to learn Russian and sometimes their native language and culture was banned. The best factories, cities, villages, food supplies, opportunities (like being exchange students) and such were in lands where the majority of the native population was Russian, particularly in the European part of the country. Powerful party leaders and government leaders were almost exclusively ethnic Russian, with Stalin (who was Georgian) being the biggest exception. Non-Russian Soviets only got good treatment if they were successful athletes, KGB agents, scientists etc. Whenever foreign tourists, escpecially western tourists, visited the Soviet Union, tours and trips (with minders) were only focused on the Russians. It wasn't until the 60s that other ethnicities got the same opportunities available as the Russians and were able to rise up the ranks in the government or military.
Why am I mentioning this? This means it was Russians who invaded Finland. It was Russian soldiers and Russian military commanders and Russian government officials. It wasn't Latvians or Azerbaijanis. This is why most countries in Europe use Soviet and Russian interchangeably.
Cool history lesson. Doesn't mean Putin is Stalin or Lenin. I doubt he's been waiting until he's 70 to start land expansion for Russia.
He started just after few days in office in 1999 with Chechnya. Been restoring Russian Empire ever since, that's why he's popular.
He knows he doesn't have much longer and he's doing this to cement his legacy. It makes perfect sense if you imagine that he's on his way to retirement, or worse, sick with some fatal illness.
"imagine"
We are not talking about biden.
Word amongst the oligarchs is that Putin has leukemia. I certainly hope so.
No
No /s required. Joining NATO would be the best protection for Finland against Russia.
The part between announcing the intent to join and actually joining is the risky part, but with how badly the Ukraine invasion is going for Russia, now is probably the best time.
Handshake detected.
Applying for nato worked really well for ukraine. I think the finnnies are going to try for super big brain speedrun of getting conquered in 2024.
"Most of Europe" has been invaded many times by Russia? Uh, no.
If Ukraine had been a NATO member they could expect NATO (American) troops on the ground. Russia wouldn't want to fight NATO directly and probably wouldn't have invaded in the first place
^ Correct answer. NATO charter dictates that an attack on a NATO member nation requires a military response from all NATO members.
"if they had been" they still had to apply, you're both retards lmao
"If only captain america was there russhia wouldnt have attacked!!"
Ukraine in NATO was never an option really - occupied territories after 2014 made it impossible. Training and cooperation yes but not membership. NATO can only accept new members if they actually improve security situation of the alliance, not bring new liabilities. That's why Sweden and Finland will fit right in.
There is no point, unless the goal is destruction which is what you would expect from a globalist puppet. Just look at resident Bidet.
That’s what I keep asking. None of these talking heads or idiots with a Ukraine flag in their handle think about the fact that NATO is a bullshit organization. Everyone is on this “Putin is the boogeyman” train but these morons are asking for it. So you’re threatening to join a corrupt and obsolete group which would infringe on Russia’s border, and now you’re mad because Putin isn’t a fan of that. Fuck NATO, the UN, EU, and all the rest of them. Name me an international acronym organization in this day and age that isn’t a total shit sandwich.
The USA could have easily supplied Finland with gas if libs didn't block all the pipeline projects....but since they did. They're totally fucked.
Sorry? What gas pipelines were blocked and why?
That's just nonsense. US oil production under Biden is not significantly different than it was under Trump.
Nigga pleeze.
The green movement is gonna cause rolling blackouts
....as was the intention
So libtards, soccer moms, and other white Karens don't mind blackouts? Grow your base by pissing them off. Interesting theory.
The green movement was designed to reduce a very specific type of carbon: you
We'll find out tomorrow probably, last time rolling blackouts where used in Scandinavia was in the 40's.
The propagandists in Europe are already spreading "suffer for the climate" and "lose your wealth to own Putin" bullshit.
They don't care about votes.
Russia causing Finland blackouts is causing California blackouts!! (Communist moron leftist somewhere)
Tomorrow's news will be "U.S. to send 40 billion to now struggling Finland".
Watch the 🇫🇮 start popping up all over social media.
You get a billion and you get a billion and ....
What is the Finish flag so I can put it in my profile picture?
Use their air force roundel :)
Based history pede spotted.
Better send them baby formula while we are at it.
*40 billion per day
Is this WWIII???? /s
It is the Dems in charge.
Trump caused a shortage of middle eastern countries to invade
I miss the MOABs though..
Uniparty. Plenty of snakes with an R next to their name masturbating over the UKR conflict.
“It’s the Dems in charge.”
Meanwhile half of the R’s in the house just voted to give $40,000,000,000 to Ukraine. Your brain on Fox News, everyone.
Only if you do anything with your draft notice but throw it in the fucking garbage.
These fucks are going to do everything they can to drag us all into a world scale conflict, where they get to throw bodies at a globohomo meat grinder.
When that happens, and you get that draft notice, you'd do well to remember that cigarette lighters exist.
What better opportunity to depose the managerial state?
Yeah. The toughest talkers are always the biggest pussies. Why don't you beat the rush and defect now?
I don't know about world war but it's definitely at present the biggest proxy war in history however that could change at any moment at the rate things are escalating.
In 2 weeks. Sad thing is that it probably will happen in 2 weeks this time.
bye bye russia. putin has leukemia hd dead man
Igor, is this one of your alts, LOl!
That seemed more and more likely. He's acting like a man with nothing to lose trying to cement his legacy.
"The Finnish grid company said it can replace Russian electricity supply by importing more electricity from Sweden."
Sweden will cover for it https://www.svk.se/en/national-grid/the-control-room/, by burning oil, Greta will go REEEEE. 🤡
You fucking retard. Instead of talking out of your ass (again) why don't you go look up how Sweden generates electricity first. Then maybe you'll understand what an embarrassing dope you are.
Current net export: 5 361 MW, source: https://www.svk.se/en/national-grid/the-control-room/. Now go back to reddit faggot.
Thanks for your masterful cut-and-paste job! So now, based on the information we see that about 4% of Sweden's electricity is generated from burning garbage, wood or oil; but we have no information on the percentages of each.
So please explain why you believe that Sweden will have to burn oil to fill the void left by Russia. Because the chances are that nuclear or hydro will be used and Greta won't go REEEE at all.
Yea, everyone in Sweden has a black hole for garbage disposal, not a single bag of garbage is ever generated in Sweden, and the country is not covered in 95% forest, Norway doesn't have any oil to sell and oh, there's no sewage either so no bio gas can be produced. 🤡 Honk Honk 🤡
See the 4459 MW production from wind. Soon as the wind stops blowing every surrounding country won't just shut down all their industry because there's no power. They're gonna demand around 5000 MW of power from Sweden no matter how much wind there is. Plus another 1000 MW that Russia won't deliver.
Now where do you find 6000 MW of power out of thin air in Sweden? Sure the dams in the north could certainly produce that and more. But the power lines can not transmit more than they already do.
Zone 3 has shut down it's nuclear power plants, even with the wind blowing it imports 7000 MW from zone 1 and 2. Not to mention that zone 4 is even worse off and the European continent, Germany, Poland etc.
This leaves fossil fuels as the only backup alternative... what you thought the green party where actually green? Fuck them. Soon as the wind stops 5000 MW is gonna have to be generated in zone 3, plus another 1000 MW now to supply Finland.
For every 330MW of power 70 metric tons of oil is needed, that's one fully loaded 32 wheeler tanker truck. These plants are not built inland, you need them to be close to a harbor in order to deliver oil by tanker ships. Closest harbor to Finland in zone 3 is in Stockholm, and that's exactly where the fossil fuel backup power generators are located.
Now you do the math on how much emission 1273 metric tons of oil per hour will produce. The great forests of Sweden will be able to clean that up, but Stockholm is gonna be covered in smog, that's a fact. These plants are very old and designed for backup power only.
I appreciate hearing your rationale. But I see little alternative for Finland. One question:
You said, "But the power lines can not transmit more than they already do." It seems odd that the power lines coming from the dams in the north do not have any capacity beyond their normal production. I'd be very surprised if that was true. Because otherwise, why would they knowing limit the capacity of power generation by building insufficient line capacity? Why wouldn't they build out to be able to expand their market and lower costs?
It's not that the power lines where reduced in capacity. They where once built to support 7M people, now there's over 10M people in Sweden. There also used to be nuclear power plants in zone 3 and 4 which means less power would need to be transferred in the first place.
Originally this grid was also not connected to Germany, Poland or UK. In fact, UK connected just a few months ago. But, all the power needed by the European continent from the Nordpool market would also have to pass through Sweden. It's been running at it's maximum capacity for a very long time, and if more power is need, it must be produced in zone 3 or 4.
Reminds me of the meme of the power strip plugged into itself.
Sweden can just increase their supply from Germany who is going to increase their supply from Russia.
Germany already can't keep its own grid stable.
Earlier this year Germany had to shut down most of its railway cargo traffic because the grid didn't have enough power. It's also been a common occurrence since last autumn that local industry has to be shut down to keep the grid stable. Short-ish blackouts have also become more common in recent years.
How does one just switch from "importing electricity" from one country to another?
It's not like it comes in boxes you just request from a different warehouse...
It's a lot like stealing cable in the old days
You wrap tin foil around the cable to unscramble the channels?
As I understand it, the networks of European countries are interconnected, so that they can buy electricity if needed or sell their surplus. I'm not sure how it works on a technical level, but would assume it is similar to grid balancing.
Not all of them, but they are indeed connected in chunks with complex rules telling you when yo export/import and how much. Germany, Poland and UK are all connected to Nordpool right now, where the Nordic and the Baltic countries are connected. Russia export to this market, and UK typically imports. https://www.svk.se/en/national-grid/the-control-room/
Spez, looks like Finland is now paying 12x more for electricity than Sweden, today's lesson. Don't bite the hand that feeds you ;-)
Problem is, renewable energy totally fucked that balance in the ass. When there's no sun or wind, there's no sun or wind in most of Europe at the same time. And when there's sun and wind you end up with too much electricity.
Europe has a common electricity market. Prices are dynamically determined based on supply and demand.
Germany for example bounces back and forth between having to import electricity at a premium and having to pay other countries to take their excess production.
Not sure that's entirely true. Wind varies greatly depending on the location at any given time, even withing a single country. As for the sun, at night there is of course no sunlight in all of Europe, the weather and the resulting cloud coverage at any given moment however also varies greatly depending on the location. It is true however that renewable energy sources a lot less predictable compared to traditional sources.
You cannot ignore the burgeoning use of storage batteries. Both at utilities as well as distributed. That smoothes out the supply/demand curves for electricity. Look at emerging battery tech including molten salt and flow batteries which are being deployed in large-scale stationary storage projects, such as 200MW/800MWh vanadium flow battery project in Dalian, China and 108MW Sodium Sulphur battery system in Abu Dhabi.
"When there's no sun or wind, there's no sun or wind in most of Europe at the same time." Im sorry what, sun i might agree, but wind?! Wind is not a big homogenous area drawn over europe that says all wind are the same here. Even within a small country like NL or Belgium, the coastal weather is very different from the weather near the german border. The coasts are almost always windy, even if the wind doesn't reach much inland. Big storms that reach the english channel might take 2-3 days to reach Poland or Hungary. So let me try to us understand this. So if there is good weather in florida it means there is good weather throughout the US does it?
Germany does not "pay other countries" to take its electricity. That is idiotic.
It may be idiotic but that is how it works thanks to the EU.
The price of electricity becomes negative when there's too much supply in one country and little demand in others. Which means power plants have to pay money to feed electricity into the European grid. Thanks to legal and technical requirements they can't just shut down either.
Read this (auto-translated) article if you don't believe me.
I understand the problems inherent in shutting down. But there are certainly ways to increase and decrease output. Perhaps not with solar (except when you're using it in conjunction with storage) but all of the other means of power generation can be dialed up and down.
I am still unclear on what happens to the surplus electricity. Even if my country is being paid to take it- don't we have to then do something with it? And if we can deal with the excess- why can't the country who generated the excess?
Exactly the same way it works in the United States. The power grid is not just a line from one supplier to a consumer, it's a large interconnected grid that can be balanced from many directions by many suppliers. You can even generate your own power and sell it back to the power company.
Texas has its own grid.
How'd that work out for them last year?
It would have been fine without the feds shutting producers down with fines. Do not get me wrong about the good old boy system cutting corners they never thought they would come around after they fortified their positions with "cheap" labor. That is another discussion. The feds handicapped the grid in Texas. Ercrap wanted to increase production before icemageddon. The feds decided to teach Texas a lesson, and charge it's population with the bill thru insurance losses, and premiums.
And that worked out great for them when it collapsed.
It did for those that had seen it coming, paid attention, and learned from it.
Apparently the consumers who froze in their homes were not part of that elite group.
Around ten that did not get out much were affected by federal regulations that kept private companies offline. I was not surprised when this topic made the local MSM a month or so ago claiming over 200 froze to death. That claim is pure propaganda. Many more die from the heat without global warming every year here. The local news should have had a segment with a charity handing out free heaters the week before. I grew up in the northern Midwest, and worked outside in the temperatures that people supposedly died from inside their homes in Texas. I know a story about a Pandemic that people died during as well.
It collapsed due to federal regulations.
If that was the case they wouldn't be buying power from Russia.
Maybe Russian electricity is cheaper. Or Sweden has to do adjustments first before they will be able to cover the Finnish electricity needs.
Because they didn't pay the bill.
Why were you downvoted for being correct? From the article, "According to Reuters, Russian utility Inter RAO will suspend the power supply to Finland due to non-payment since May 6."
Because this site has become a patsy for Putin. I never expected to see a bunch of media skeptics immediately swallow every piece of news that comes out of Russian media but here we are.
So you're saying you believe our media about everything coming outta Ukraine?
Evidently.
Idiot. I never said a thing about Ukraine. Where's your skeptic brain now when everyone around you is saying to trust Russian state media? Doesn't that seem incredibly fucking wrong to you, or are you Putin's bitch now too?
No but I'm sure as hell not going to believe a government run news source. What the fuck have we learned from the past decade? Don't believe the media unless it is controlled by the enemy of our enemy?
It's crazy how this site went retarded with Putin propaganda.
Do you have a news story saying Finland has been paying? Right now all I've seen is claims they have not, but I'd read conflicting reports.
I dont have to like Putin to not want to play the world's policeman, esp when our country is struggling.
Lack of payment.
Without checking, I would wager that Finland is run by the left.
Vote cattle is how they rig elections.
They want to pay in a stable currency lol
Honestly the reading comprehension here is pathetic
Posted for three hours and I'm the only one who saw this and laughed? Christ, we got a lot of dummies around here.
Meanwhile, California talks about doing the same thing with power and water and nobody bats an eye.
I feel like TD is now a comment section for The Gateway Pundit
This used to be a place where you can reliably find skeptics calling out bullshit news reports, and now they bend over backwards to push Russian narratives from Russian state media sites. How far we have fallen!
We haven't fallen. Most MAGA folks are not here. I dug into the visits and it's still very very low. Most of the activity is bots. Most votes are from socks. Most of the posts are bots. Either screengrabs of bot tweets to straight up dear diary posts. The RNC or someone is doing all they can to divide the movement. This place does not represent MAGA. Go to a Trump Rally and ask someone if they visit this place. They laugh and say no or they don't even know about it.
For sure. If not for the lulz and the absurd takes and the bending over for Russia I would not be entertained enough to keep coming back.
There are a lot of Russians here. Not just fanboys and simps, actual Russian nationals who are full-time shills. And they are pretty good at shilling too. But they also know what's really up with the war and how they're getting punked by Ukraine and how their army has embarrassed itself by its incompetence. They also know that the poor pricks that live in that authoritarian shithole are finding out what is going on and that they are on borrowed time.
I don't blame Russia not wanting Ukraine to join NATO. I would do the same thing. All of this is planned theater to grab land and shuffle around money that goes back to the DC Bureaucrats, Politicians and Contractors. Soon we will have a situation where we have to invest in our own weaponry and deploy hundreds of thousands so MORE money can be passed around. It's the typical DC Double Dip. It is getting old and we should have never been involved. Positioning Ukraine for a NATO alliance was a serious step to provoke conflict. All done purposely. They need to inflict burden upon us so a series of planned decisions have reason when all of it is staged to help a small group become profitable.
What lands do the DC bureaucrats want to grab and why? I don't believe that Ukraine was "positioned" for NATO membership. Russia had already invaded and annexed Crimea years ago. They are the ones who initially stirred up the shit in the Donbas region and have supported and encouraged that insurgency for years. Russia has made its' intentions about Ukraine very clear. Frankly, I see the only reasonable way out for Putin as orchestrated neutrality like was done with Austria.
Honestly that just an idiotic way of looking at it. 70+ mil votes for trump.
We do know people go to the rallies here. We see it. Or god forbid you actually go to one and still post here. We were and always have been separated from the general Trump supporters.
Just because you expect a random at a rally to admit they visit here to be proof of anything is ignorant.
he's a shill account, check his pages
JimBob. You know what's up.
I can go to Reddit for Ukraine Propaganda or come here for Russia Propaganda. Gee, isn’t the internet great!?
No doubt. The speed at which this whole site decided to bend over and let Putin fuck then in the ass is head-spinning. Last gasp of the skeptic is to believe anything the enemy of their enemy says.
Truth. It's one big gay sausage fest with MAGA cartoon characters competing to see who can spring the biggest outrage boner. The dopier and more laughable the story, the hotter the fire burns. It's hard to know whether this site attracts rubes or creates them. Whichever it is, all vestiges of healthy skepticism seem to get checked at the door.
Yeah preach. I'm pretty sure I only get downvoted by the division shills and the flat earth idiots who still think memes will pave the way to a glorious golden future while they jerk off to pointless rallies and try to out-shock each other with big talk.
Says the guy who's lapping up the propaganda from US state-run media
Oh, no!
So anyway...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2e_YBgh9O48
Kek
Everything the globalists want.
They want order out of chaos and they're achieving both..
The slow dismantling of western society because it achieves their end goal. They are moving forward with the eco-terrorists "Earth-First" depopulation agenda. If they can kill the western life-style then it eliminates China producing carbon. 2 birds with one stone. If the middle class is destroyed then it will by design collapse the rest of the world. Once you have no money you go to the only ones (them) who can feed you.
It's a 100% by design demolition of modern society to be rebuilt in the globalists vision. It's called "THE GREAT RESET".
The entire world relies on the western economy as it drives the demand. It's basically the same thing as pulling the foundation from under a building and watching it fall.. Then they swoop in and pick up the pieces monopolizing everything buying everything in sight for pennies on the dollar.
Where have we seen that before?
Wow. Did Q tell you this?
Q is a faggot like you
There is no Q, loser. It's an elaborate LARP to make people like you look even stupider (assuming that's possible). Glad you're here vanquishing the globalists with your meme cannon. Trust the plan!!
You seem to know more about Q than I do.
Oh I see: To become one with Q, you first have to deny him? Very cool? The ladies must just flock to a guy like you! I still think you're a loser, though.
Your mom did
Good! Fuck them. Vlad the Mad Lad: "FAFO, bishes."
This site has become so stupid on this issue.
As a Finn, this is good news for us. We should not be energy dependent on Russia under any circumstance, even Trump warned Germany and other Nato countries of being energy dependent on Russia. As a small country, with a 1200 km border with Russia, there is no other alternative than to join Nato if we want to ensure our independence. We have a reservist army of 450,000 troops, high number wich many Nato countries cannot even pull those numbers. Russia as a country is a not a trustworthy neighbour, period. We have many native russians living here, and there is no doubt that eventually Putin will pull a Hitler and say that these russians are discriminated and that Finland forced his hand to invade our country to ensure the existence of the russian people. Many here in the comments have pointed out that Russia today is not the same as the Soviet Union, oh really please tell me more. Putin idolises Stalin and has visions of old Soviet borders. He is a true communist in disguise, not a queer faggot LGBT american communist, but a true communist. My grandfather fought the communist pigs in WW2, what did you americans do? You aided them with supplies and money, great job I must say.
Sorry, Fren.
You’ll be drowned out in here by the anti-American putin dick suckers.
This should be required reading for all retarded Putin simps. I welcome Finland and Sweden to NATO with open arms. Fuck Russia and fuck Putin.
hahaha, nice opinion youve got there, merkel
iss meine Scheiße
Thank you for chiming in with a reasonable and knowledgeable comment. I apologize in advance for the Putin shill idiots on here.
Lmao, what did they expect?
Zelenksky is scum. All this is happening because this puppet wanted nukes and weapons on Russia's border
Nobody was gonna put nukes in ukraine. Ukraine gave all their nukes back to russia. There's several treaties on this that everyone has abided by.
Also, there's no reason in this century to put nukes on borders where they can be easily overrun, like the border areas were.
Part of those treaties was that Russia would respect Ukraine's borders.
Then the Maidan Revolution and ejection of Yanukovych happened.
I'll have to look into that as I'm not familiar with Russian leadership during that time. The name Yanukovych sounds familiar but that's as much as my memory gives me.
Right. I meant until now but looking back that wasn't clear.
No, it's much much bigger than Zelensky, who I agree is scum.
Due to non payment. Fucking headlines I swear
It's only 10% of their power.
The problem is more the power itself, not so much the production from gas or oil. The power lines are already overloaded, and now they need another GW. The power can be produced in the rural parts of the country as well as in neighboring countries, but there's no way to transmit it to where it's needed.
That is inner city apartments where liberals and leftists lives. As for the rural areas and the industry it'll be fine, all of that will still get all the power they need.
the UK had 5% russian gas/oil. They dumped it and guess what? no difference
Agree, this is just fear porn for the paranoid schizos.
Putin should send Finland's number to a collection agency. And then to whoever makes those calls asking about your car's extended warranty, just to be a real asshole.
I love those car warranty calls! I always ask them what car they are calling about, but for security reasons they can’t tell me. They need me to verify which vehicle, and I yell, I don’t know, you called me! Then they stop calling for awhile 😂
You're lucky, you get an actual person to make regret calling. I only ever get outbound recorded messages and half the time they're in Spanish.
Well, that’s no fun!
Reminder, the host of Finalnd's "Wheel of Fortune" is a tranny faggot.
Wheel of Fish.
From the article, "According to Reuters, Russian utility Inter RAO will suspend the power supply to Finland due to non-payment since May 6." Is this because Russia wants payments in rubbles and Finland just isn't converting their currency?
Yes. And even worse, so many countries are buying rubles that they've skyrocketed in value, meaning that cheap power you bought now costs 50% more after the exchange rate
Yes.
It's almost like depending on your mortal enemy for your energy is a bad idea?
When winter will come .... normies will wake up....
The people without power will be protected by the iron vaginas of the WEF bitchstooges running the place.
Ahhh finland. The country that is run by a group of sorority chics.
How many blue helmets does it take to incinerate and produce power? Asking for a friend.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=C6eM8eRvnCg&feature=emb_title
I do have to wonder where all those WaPo and NYT writers about how the US President is stoking WW3 are currently hiding, amidst all these flashpoints that can lead to, you know, WW3.
Here, have our baby formula
'We should be more like Scandinavia' - Bernie Bros
They can just use a slight breeze and a paper straw for all their energy needs, right? That's what the climate people keep telling us.
Denmark produces over half of its power needs with wind and solar.
I sure hope they did that overnight.
Of course they didn't, which is why we should be following their lead RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
Or, we could go with a far more affordable option, or a far more sustainable option. I also think the "we" part is hilarious. The countries in question have smaller populations than my state, and these green energy initiatives cost them a fuck ton. Only plausible for them because they are activists willing to pay out the ass for it on an extremely small scale.
Ive been told by a professor that I didnt know any better about voting because I was voting for Trump. they think we are stupid.... and we arent
Obviously it was an English professor.
Oh cool, can I start putting the Finland flag in my profile now??? Also can all my tax dollars be routed to them immediately???
The US elite are responsible for the breakdown of relations world wide.
And those people belong to an elite club that the average person is now allowed to name directly, but there are pseudonyms like illuminati, NWO, etc.
Soros invaded Ukraine!! I knew it!! When will Jack Kennedy be there to round up the undead pedophiles who secretly run the world?
Don't worry - we will give you money, Finland!
I rummaged around in my garage, and these are all the fucks I managed to find:
More than me!
oh no! uh-not-uh Finraaaand!
Came to see if anyone made this reference. Sad this is the only one, lol.
First thing i thought when i read the post ha. Finrand is going to need a lot of space cash
I’m becoming a bigger and bigger fan of Russia lol
I was actually watching Russian news year ago before my cable company cut it off. I have since cut off the cable. Not that I trust Russian news either but very different stories. I'm no big fan of Russia but Putin is a far superior man and leader than Biden. I do admit I am becoming a bit envious of a country with strong sane leadership looking like it might shift the world order in its favor.
Putin singlehandedly made Russia great again. It was a dysfunctional country after the collapse of the Soviet Union and now 20 years later it’s ready to take its rightful place in the world as a major world power once again. Imagine if America had a Vladimir Putin.
Yes. But instead, why don't you just tell us how Putins' cock tastes?
It is a corrupt shithole and always has been. Putin's greatest accomplishment is bringing greater efficiency to stealing from the people of Russia. Estimates is that Putin, personally has stolen between $100 and $200 billion dollars. Go take the Youtube tour of his 250,000 square foot dacha on the Black Sea. Fuck him and fuck all corrupt dictators.
This “corrupt shithole” is totally humiliating the western powers in the world stage. The “corrupt shithole” alongside with China will be a major player this century as well.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.........hahahahahahahahahahahahaha......You're no fucking patriot. Go volunteer for the Russian army, they need more cannon fodder and are running low on retards, as 18,000 are dead already.
Where did you learn that news? Fox News? CNN? KEK gubble more deep state propaganda you faggot homosexual
Janes. C'mon and ride the short bus on down to the Russian Army recruiting center. They don't care that you're slow OR a faggot. Only that you'll accept your salary in rubles.
Gee. Zus. Christ.
There are way too many people here that are completely unloyal to America.
You wrap yourself in the flag, but you don’t want our system. You want to change it into a theocratic dictatorship. And you know it.
Anti-American fucks.
I am a nationalist. I am not a libertarian.
The American nation predates the U.S. constitution. The Americans were here before any of this system came into place. I am loyal to that nation. I agree, I would love to go back to the roots of the founding, but however we also have to be pragmatic and be a realist. We live in a vagabond society. Liberty puts the responsibility of governing the society to the people, but if the people are a bunch of pants-sagging vagabonds dollar store looters, you get a rotten society which we have now. What we need is LAW AND ORDER and if we need force to achieve that then it is necessary.
Also, can we put a stop to this New World Order thinking that America is an idea? This has what got us to this shithole in the first place. The idea that literally anyone can be an American as long as they believe in our system. That’s bullshit. America is not an idea. America is a certain land, a people, and a home. The flag does not represent liberal democracy or liberal philosophical values such as freedom or rights. The flag represent the American NATION. The people. The flag represents my country, the flag represents my home, the flag represents my people, the flag represents my family, the flag represents ME. And not the the constitution or these ideas.
EDIT: also, stop using the Lord’s name in vain.
God thinks you're a faggot- not a nationalist. And I think you're a buffoon and figure of fun.
Seethe. Russia will destroy Ukraine and kill Zelensky and there is NOTHING you could do about it
I guess "seethe" is this week's buzzword or something? I though we were still on "groomer"- which, coincidentally- fits you pretty well sweet boy. I think Putin's leukemia will get him long before that ever happens.
For a besieged country teetering on the verge of defeat, the endless flow of Western leaders, heads of state and diplomats visiting Kiev like they were on holiday seems remarkable. The 155 howitzers showed up this week. They use AI processors to acquire targets. Given the shit logistics demonstrated by the Red Army- there will be a lot of Russian artillerymen killed this weekend. BTW, did you see the news feature about the bloodbath at the pontoon bridge river crossing today? I understand 1000 Russians died on that riverbank. Face it Russia will lose. It will take the first exit ramp out, Putin cannot win because his generals do not believe in him- only fear him.
Nah, you’re just a larping edgelord with a victim mentality and victim complex.
Got it, your loyal to Britain
You think you’re the only person who’s existence is justified and your bold LAW AND ORDER call is just a too pussified attempt to say you want a dictatorship without having to actually own it and say you want a dictatorship.
So we’ve fallen from republicans viewing America as the great shining beacon on the hill, to absolutely nothing but a flag. A Flag that only represents land. Like I said, anti-America. I understand though, victim mentality bitches give up on things easily and regularly.
Go fuck your self you god damned anti-American moron.
Hear, hear.... Well put +1 internet for you
Lmao what a low-IQ response.
Nah, just one you couldn’t respond to.
You’re a victim complexed douchebag with a small town high school education and a lot of time spent on your bathroom phd while shitting, that has gotten yourself so wrapped up in your perceived victim hood that you’ve built up enough imaginary grievances that you’re now ready for the next step.
Like the basement dwelling incel eventually lashes out in violence against those who he perceives to have wronged him, you’re now feeling froggy and ready.
You’ve been manipulated, friend. You need to learn to think for yourself, stop being a victim complex little bitch, and stop just consuming rage bait that tells you what you want to hear.
Maybe touch some grass.
You’re a keyboard revolutionary and a paper tiger just hoping to graduate to the next level where all your problems can be solved by violence against anyone you dislike.
You’re goose-stepping, anti-American, traitor and you know it.
Hence your dissertation to try to justify it.
Lol yeah shut up, you can cheerlead for the gay anal empire all you’d like, but I don’t really want to pledge my allegiance to child trannies, homosexuals, abortions, hooked nosed usurers, diversity and the like. I don’t owe loyalty to a government that wants me dead because I’m white. You should join the military and die for Israel already, that’s the most patriotic thing you can do for the modern America. You sound like a boomer though so 👍🏻
Aaaaand you proved the point. Way to go. Anti-American dick suck for dictators.
Lol we’re all impressed by your dedication and devotion to the gay anal empire. Be sure to fly your rainbow flag high as you man the glory hole 😂
Gee, NATO wants to kill off 6 billion people including all the lightest skinned Caucasoid in the world, and what do you do?
Alienate the only free 'it is ok to be white' country left. Good move Dufus.
Hahahahahahahaha.... So the savior of the white world has had 18,000 of it. And their own white people killed in battle already who themselves are killing thousands of other white people (including women, children and elderly non-combatants). So you can claim (without any basis in fact) that NATO (which is overwhelmingly white) is gunning for whitey. But the Russian invasion has already cost the lives of tens of thousands white people. And before this is over, there will be tens of thousands more dead white people.
P.S. Russia is by no means, "free". You can be imprisoned for 15 years for calling this invasion an invasion or war. And you free access to the internet is blocked. Is that what you want for your version of freedom?
Fuckoff stormfag Nazi Bootlicker. Biden is worse.
Hahahhaha... great comeback, loser!
and the Leftarads still won't understand why energy independence is a good thing
I'm sorry... are you confused about who invaded who? WTF is wrong with you?
DO IT
"We were supposed to pay for electricity?!" - Finland
Maybe Finland should pay it's fucking power bill.
In Rubles
Maybe Putin should suck that money out of a Finnish dick.
How's that worked out for you? Did you make any spare change?....Kek!!!
Are we going to send them billions of dollars worth of windmills and solar panels? Or are we going to build them a LFTR plant for free?
Oh noes.. how ever will they make up for that 10%?
Trump was right.... again.
They'll get an AID package. Meanwhile, we'll receive Michelle's AID'S "package".
Biden promises to box up excess US electricity and send it to Finland.
{ I hope you get how ridiculous that statement is}