Non-US supoporter here who'd like to learn a bit more about US history. Apart from other sources, I thought I might as well watch a couple of movies about it.
So, if you know of any decent/good historical movies that are more or less historically accurate (I don't mind a bit of dramatisation as long as it stays true to the core of the historical truth). Obviously no leftist infested bullcrap, but that is probably self explanatory.
I don't mind slightly older movies, but not TOO old please. As for the period, anything goes, from pre-revolution to modern times. Maybe don't suggest too much WWII-related movies because I've already watched a whole lot of them.'
Thanks!
Edit: I was wondering why I got so many replies and then realized I got stickied! It's my very first sticky and I am humbled. Thank you everyone for the suggestions and for the sticky!
Glory is an excellent Civil War movie.
I'll defintiely look it up, thanks!
'Gettysburg', while we are on the civil war. Great soundtrack, shows the battle very methodically from both sides.
I walked Pickett's charge when my boy scout troop visited Gettysburg battlefield. Crazy shit. They still had a piece of the original fence up when I visited there like 22 years ago
Great movie. Lee riding out before the troops before Pickett's Charge was awesome! Martin Sheen mentioned he was overcome with emotion while shooting the scene and struggled to stay in character.
Came here to say this!!! Fantastic acting and production as well. They used so many real things that were used in the actual civil war!!!!!
Glory may be a good movie... but all movies of that sort are still Hollywood movies. My experience is non-US people have an exaggerated view of racism in the US. My travel with the army gave me experiences that make me believe that the US is the least racist place but it talks about racism and points the racism finger more than anywhere else
Agreed. 15 years in the army. I’ve been to 40+ states. I’ve also been to about 15 different countries in 4 continents. Every other place has a surprising amount of casual racism.
Keeps minorities on the Democrat plantation so they can harvest votes.
This is very true. I spent 17 years in other countries and the only racism I’ve ever seen here is on the tv. Fuck red dot Indians though. - FJB
I gotta hear the reason for the Red Dot comment
Customer Service...
Dot vs feather
I gotcha, but what happened to him to never trust an indian
The US is absolutely the least racist country
US Army Racism 80s-00s =/= US Army Racism in 1863.
"The Distinguished Gentlemen"
Funny and informative.
Dr. Zhivago.
i think you mean Dr Chicago
Thats an awesome movie! But isn't that more Russian history than american?
Hatfield & McCoy miniseries
Filmed in Savannah, Georgia (USA).
Midway (the newer one). Fantastic and spot-on historically accurate retelling of the greatest American Naval victory in our history.
If you want entertainment with history contained within the story, The Final Countdown 1980 has always been one of my favorites. Yes, there's time travel, but the history is introduced in an entertaining way.
https://ok.ru/video/391424707312
LOVE that movie
I just watched it again. Didn't take much.
How about the USS Indianapolis with Nick Cage?
That movie was CCP funded nonsense parading faggot celebrities.
There was a little bit worth watching, but the instant I saw that off-label Chinese-funding company logo, alarms started blaring
It was as historically accurate as any war film I've ever seen.
Oh it was, but you could see the pro-Chinesey crap inserted into it b/c the CCP company was financing it
I missed it I guess. That does suck. But I remain happy that the improbable events and straight up heroism on that fateful day, June 4th, 1942, didn't end up yet another Hollywood-ed up shitshow like Afflecks Pearl Harbor.
I recently watched this film and was amazed! It was critically panned. It's wonderful and educational. I learned stuff I never knew!
It is a good movie, and reasonably historically accurate, but I'm not sure a sci-fi time travel movie is what the OP was looking for.
Barron Goes to Alpha Centauri fits the bill.
Best Civil War movie ever made. Production values were off the charts.
"The Right Stuff", about the American space program, will introduce you to one of the biggest badasses who ever lived - Chuck Yeager.
Team America!
Every July 4th i play America fuck yeah all day
Bed, Bath, and Beyond! - FUCK YEAH
I need to start doing this.
I'm in Canada so it should be extra funny.
I also have one of these https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Storage-Solutions/PACKOUT/PACKOUT-Power-Tools/2950-20
And It's Hella loud so I should be able to crop dust the city.
Fuck Yah !
baseball FUCK YEAH! walmart FUCK YEAH!
Definitely in my top 10
I just rewatched this about a month ago with my kids. It's really well done.
The story of Matt Damon in that movie is fucking legend.
Matt was one of the only celebrities they were lampooning that they actually liked at the time and was originally written to be the reasonable and smart one. When making the marionette though, they had to keep starting over because no matter what they tried they kept making his puppet look like a Mongoloid. Eventually they went to Matt telling him about their new idea and asked if he was OK with it and Damon thought it was hilarious and that he would be pissed if they didn't do it.
"MATT DAMON!" Is the epitome of what Bob Ross called a happy little accident.
Excellent book as well!
They found Gus Grissom's capsule, Liberty Bell 7, and recovered it from the ocean floor.
I wish they had been able to recover the door and put to rest the question of whether or not Gus opened the door and caused the capsule to sink.
Wally Schirra asked the recovery crew to stay in Sigma 7 until he was on deck. At that point he used the explosive system to jettison the door. That activation left a superficial lesion on his hand, just like John Glenn had reported. Schirra want to prove that Grissom couldn’t have activated the jettison system because he sustained no injury to his hand. That’s how a pair of Naval Aviators went to bat for Grissom, an Air Force pilot.
Also, RIP Fred Ward. Saw that yesterday and now see The Right Stuff mentioned here.
Damn.
I was pissed that there was no sequel to Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins.
Prolly dated now, but a very funny movie with him starring.
https://youtu.be/_ZJUuDLqjzU
Includes the best facepalm ever
I'm going to go with Gus on this and aver that it was a mechanical malfunction of some sort. I think everyone knew that, which is why he was selected for the Apollo mission. That, of course, ended in tragedy.
you think that door survived the vacuum of space and the heat and pressure of reentry and then just suddenly popped open?
he would have been better off saying he was in command of the ship, he felt the danger warranted opening the door and they could all suck on his love rocket
I trust Gus Grissom's words. That’s all.
And with mechanical objects, just about anything is possible. They did how many tests with how many capsules pumped with pure oxygen? And then one little spark and no more Gus.
face it, space capsules hated Gus
So did sandwiches. Wasn’t he the one who smuggled a sandwich aboard a Gemini flight?
He blew the bolts by mistake. He was probably just CYA. It in no way detracts from the man's skill, dedication, or legacy. He made a mistake, most of those guys did on their respective missions (Apollo). Hell, Armstrong forgot to shut down the engine on the surface of the moon, after the contact light came on for several long seconds, which could have seriously damaged the LEM. Humans make mistakes.
I don’t disagree that humans make mistakes. So do mechanical objects; they malfunction. I'll believe Gus. And enjoy a splendid conversation with fellow space enthusiasts on a message board about the best US president since Jefferson.
Armstrong also sat the LEM down manually better than the computer could do, so soft in fact that the shock absorbers didn't even retract (hence the ladder hop).
I nominate "suck his love rocket" as the funniest subject-matched metaphor this year.
THEY took his word. The big wheel , Chris Craft, or whatever, wouldn't have le him fly again if he had been a panicking wuss that he movie made him out to be.
Further, iirc, the explosive bolts weren't as reliable as made out to be.
How many times did Columbia survive the vacuum of space? Challenger?
One less than required...
This answer is best answer
I'm a fan of space junk and have been to many sites to see it all. That capsule is in a little-known museum in Hutchinson, Kansas. We were working in Wichita once, heard about it, and drove over to it on an off day. They also have an SR-71 and a lot of material from Peenemunde/German V2 rocketry
Gus panicked, fucked up and didn't follow procedure. Everyone knew it at Canaveral AFS...and everybody was told to shut up...
Lol. Ok
Going to guess the film and not the recent series.
I was introduced to Chuck Yeager through a dos flight Sim called Chuck yeager's Air combat.
Fantastic game, I think it was my first 60 fps experience, you could set up your own scenarios by telling a story and filling the blanks,
Modern: the big short - about the 2008 financial crisis
Pure entertainment: the patriot, full metal jacket, Forrest Gump,
Somewhat Accurate (at least more than the entertainment movies): Patton, Glory, Gettysburg, John adams miniseries, the Lincoln movie is ok, kinda slow, many many more if you’re willing to dive back into WW2.
Watched the patriot yesterday actually, was pretty entertaining. The big short is a movie I wanted to watch but forgot about it, so thanks for the reminder.
Thanks for the other suggestions as well, I'll put them on my list for sure.
Yeah, the Patriot is basically the Braveheart of US history. It's a great movie, entertaining, but it's not exactly the most accurate thing, lol.
"Patriot" wasn't accurate about the British slaughtering Americans in the southern theater but in New York and the North British-Allied Indians and British troops and loyalists were slaughtering hundreds or thousands of American civilians and hundreds or thousands of American troops all the time.
Cherry Valley and Wyoming Massacres were the most notorious. British Allied Indians in the War of 1812 were habitually torturing and slaughtering American civilians and troops too. It is disgusting how the British are considered "clean soldiers". The British were monsters in the Peninsular War during the Napoleonic Wars. They were slaughtering and raping local Spanish civilians and Spaniards were Britain's ALLIES!!! There is a reason the history books never mention the British and the Peninsular War in Spain and Portugal and try to talk about the other theaters that England fought in the Napoleonic Wars.
At the Battle of New Orleans the old British rapists from the Peninsular War were told by their officers that the "Beauty and Booty" of New Orleans and Louisiana Territory were promised to them if they defeat General Andrew Jackson. Scary to think about that.
They may have been focusing on the wrong kind of "hard," though.
Regarding 1812 don't start wars you can't win. Simple.
Here we are again, with these proxies in eastern Europe
WTF are you on about now retard?
Honestly, that’s a bit of a rude response. Before you get pissy and yell, I identify as a black woman. So keep in mind anything you say is a racist hate crime that could land you in jail.
We're doing that today. Right after 20 years in Asia, no contrition or reflection on the consequences of that quagmire.
The Royal navy broke rules of naval warfare repeatedly through ww2 also.
Not sure who all needs to hear this, but there are no rules in war. There are things that "polite" society shuns because they are often counter-productive, but there are no rules.
You’re completely & deliberately inaccurate, but ok. This place has probably the least amount of historical knowledge of any site. Only Consume Product is worse.
British prison ships sucked, there was a mini-civil war within the southern colonies during the later part of the war, Americans burned the 5 Nations tribes into the ground & drove them to Canada.
Yeah, obviously not accurate, but it was worth "detoruing" from the accurate side of things for the movie because it was entertaining and...I don't know how to explain it, but you just don't get movies with a storyline like that nowadays.
It's a personalized romanticization of the conflict between Swamp Fox Daniel Morgan and Colonel Banastre Tarleton, commander of the Loyalist Legion. Tarleton was much hated for his alleged massacring of surrendering Continentals, referred to mockingly as Tarleton's Quarter.
This phrase served as the rallying cry of the Americans who fought at Cowpens, in which Morgan took advantage of Tarleton's aggressiveness by forming the militia in front and feigning a rout after a brief exchange of volleys. The Legion pursued the militia right back to a strong Continental position from which they were thoroughly shot up. Thus ended Cornwallis' attempts to bring South Carolina under heel.
Maybe the series "TURN"? Dunno about it's accuracy.
I believe that series at least makes the effort to include historically accurate elements...
In fact, I believe many of the characters are based on historical people.
I clearly remember running alongside Mel Gibson onto a battlefield while he screamed "FREEDOM" at the top of his lungs during the revolution.
Its the American's movie about America!
It's accurate enough, it's also cool to see Swamp Fox murals in his old stomping grounds.
You can't get better than the John Adams miniseries.
Lots of people suggested that so I might try and find it and start watching it this evening, thanks!
Have not ever seen a better one than the John Adams mini-series.
The juxtaposition position of the two sons, alone, is paramount for your offspring to see.
To see exactly where US (and Ukraine) is heading, Dr. Zhivago is the next best.
To see the craziness of what we’ve been going through the past few years — have them start watching the old tv series Mission Impossible right now on MeTV. Every episode right now is a mini education in our Congress, pandemics, bribing officials, infiltration, infiltration, infiltration, bio terror, proxy wars, fake politicians, mis-information, extortion, blackmail, etc, etc, etc.
i was looking for a reason to watch the old MI series. thanks!
so Long Patric Henry
Interestingly Culp made a guest appearance on the later Cosby show as an old friend of Dr. Huxtable and former tennis pro, suggesting America’s dad might have been an ex DIA agent.
awesome. i only know of the show because of the coz. but i have never seen it. will check it out. thanks!
I also agree about the John Adams miniseries. It's a great retelling of the Revolutionary war and the founding of the US. Even if it's not precisely accurate (how would I know?) the fundamentals are there to understand how this country came to be.
I would also recommend Monumental as a good source for learning about the Pilgrims as they made their way to the US and how they settled at Plymouth Rock, Massachusetts. This movie also helps explain the fight for freedom of religion as the Pilgrims were escaping Europe because they believed the Kings were not living truly as the Bible directed. They wanted to live truly biblical lives and set the foundation for religious freedom in the US. One of our most important fundamental rights.
Be careful. Thomas Jefferson is more important to US history, but everyone ignores him and instead makes movies about his rivals.
John Adams mini series is excellent. Any of David McCullough books are excellent.
They should do a miniseries for 1776. I loved that book.
LOVED the John Adams miniseries.
Ditto.
Richard jewel
Great lesson in what a corrupt shit organization the FBI really is, and the events were from 25+ years ago. Other events in that time frame included Ruby Ridge and Waco. No one was ever held to account for any of those, does anyone think the organization ever got any better?
https://youtu.be/YaxGNQE5ZLA
This is the history of our national anthem
Margin Call explains a lot too...
I thought the Big Short got it wrong, and didn't address the real cause of the 2008 crisis
Good movie but exactly my complaint. The government forced banks' subprime lending for the sake of equity and caused the whole mess. Not mentioned once in the movie. Christian bale as Michael Burry is by far my favorite character.
It's still Hollywood
IF I had to pick one the blame goes to the SEC for failing to correctly rate the risk of collateralized mortgage obligations. They didn't do their job and a bubble was built on a false sense of security.
I thought Big Short was a good movie but tried to hard to put a bow on it and point one finger. There were many errors made by a wide variety of participants.
I’ve been on T_D for what, 7 years now. I’ve never heard about this claim that the subprime loans were part of a move towards this equity BS. It makes sense, but where can I learn more about that? Was that implemented under GWB then?
No, that was part of the Dodd frank fair housing act signed by Bill Clinton
The housing market started to crash under GWB but it hit rock bottom during Husain's term. Dont think this was fully caused solely on Obama
What they are saying is it was regulations on lending under Clinton, forcing banks to lend sub-prime to the victimhood class who disproportionately couldn't pay their obligations.
Yes. The movie revealed the loans were bad, but why were the loans bad? They were intentionally bad loans for racist reasons.
“I’m not wrong”
At the very.end, they point out that the corruption goes all the way to the Federal Reserve being in bed with top politicians.
But it's only briefly mentioned and there isn't much focus on it
Throw Dances with wolves into the pure entertainment one!
Last of the Mohicans with Daniel Day Lewis was better but kinda got swept aside for the feels of Dances with Wolves. Loved the soundtrack and sweeping visuals of early America. And some Indians were the bad guys.
That's why I like Dances with wolves, it kind of shows the good and bad on both sides
I wanted to like this movie but I just cannot. His voice over is so emotionless. It is beautifully shot though.
The voiceover was as an entry in his military journal, logging events.
Great movie
Normalizing autism. I hate that movie.
It’s entertaining, but in hindsight is it mostly a highlight reel of how The News wanted people to remember those years? I can easily imagine their version of 2022 and 2021, ugh and now the RUS V UKR thing.
John Adams! Hell yeah.
So I’m assuming Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter is a not a good choice?
Lol
No but it’s awesome.
So yes?
The book was one of my favorite fiction novels, but I hated the movie.
No, but if we’re talking pure entertainment, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies is a delightful steaming dump of fun.
Tombstone is a pretty accurate western and Gettysburg is an accurate Civil War movie. Both are from the 90's and will keep you interested. I like westerns so...I may be biased with these choices.
Thanks for the suggestions! I don't mind westerns at all.
Tombstone is the best western ever made
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My personal favorite is Lone Wolf McQuade
I love Lone Wolf McQuade so much! It's so gloriously fun.
I saw it at the theater!
The good the bad and the ugly is also excellent
That's one of the finest movies ever made. Pretty much perfect storytelling.
Lone Watie - Outlaw Josie Wales
> entered the chat using a one liner from tombstone
Open Range with Kevin Costner and Robert Duvall is my favorite.
A slow movie for the most part. A man just trying to make an honest living and be an honest man until he's pushed too far.
That gun fight at the end... fucking awesome.
Robert Duvall is second only to Clint Eastwood in western movies. I got hooked on him when I watched Lonesome Dove.
Another excellent choice...along with another Duvall movie Lonesome Dove. They took an actual recorded event from History (the Goodnight-Loving Stories) and gave it a little twist.
This is the answer. Unforgiven a close second.
Disagree: Treasure of the Sierra Madre or High Noon
Also Lonesome Dove is pretty good.
Rooster Cogburn
The Searchers.
I know people like stories about the Old West but true Americans should not have a boner for Wyatt Earp. He was a gun grabbing piece of shit, no wonder Hollywood loves him.
I was sxrolling ti see if Tombstone is mentioned, because it is about history, just not war history. I think the expansion into the west and how that phase of America was is also important to understand.
What's your opinion on Gods and Generals? It was a long time since I watched it but I thought it wasn't good as Gettysburg was. I think it was the obvious duplication of people to make the battles seem more epic that ruined it for me.
I'm also going to add Dances with Wolves due to its solid portrayal of the Plains Indian Wars and the frontier West in general, as well as Wyatt Earp the movie, both Kevin Costner flicks. Wyatt Earp and Tombstone are both solid portrayals of certain events, locales and people, with both providing different levels of detail and breadth.
Avoid movies. They're fiction, often 90% fiction with 10% fact. Watching movies to learn US history is one step better than playing WoW to learn about European history.
Get a US history book written pre-1980. Maybe pre-1950.
That would definitely be something interesting to get. I'll look into it, see what options are on the table given that I assume it's pretty hard to get one where I am located.
Books by David McCullough. Or audio book if you're into that.
1776 tells the story of the founding and war for independence. (The HBO Mini series about John Adams (2nd president) is also a book he wrote) He also has books on Truman, The Wright Brothers, and Teddy Roosevelt, who is a larger than life character and the quintessential American (Edmund Morris wrote a series on him which is fascinating as well).
The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin. Why not read a man in his own words?
Texas: A novel, by James A. Michener. Tells the whole history of the great state of Texas, enough said.
Seconding the John Adams series. Also nice username!
1776 was one of the most readable history books ever, and I also second any of the biographies by Edmund Morris - not only TR, but Reagan and Edison too.
"Jack Hinson's One-Man War" by Tom C. McKenney for a bit of American Civil War history. "October Sky" by Homer Hickham is good for learning about a guy who became a NASA engineer from extremely humble beginnings. And if you're interested in something a bit more... esoteric, so to speak, "The Hunt For Zero Point" by Nick Cook is good (and was also published as a free PDF). The Author wanted the information in the book to get out regardless how many hard copies sold. Edit: Almost forgot, a really good early American history one is "Men with Sand: Great Explorers of the North American West" by John Moring.
I do audiobooks. I have all you listed and concur 100% with your list.
Ben Franklin audio book was very interesting. Texas, well, as you said, enough said.
Band of Brothers mini series is a good WWII mini series.
Just get Larry Schweikart's A Patriot's History of the United States. He's the antidote to Howard Zinn. Larry has several related follow on books, but that's the one to start with.
https://www.amazon.com/Patriots-History-United-States-Entitlement/dp/1595231153
Read the product blurb and reviews there.
Edit: Larry also has a book titled How Trump Won. Since we're here.
https://www.amazon.com/How-Trump-Won-Inside-Revolution/dp/1621573958
Larry was on board the Trump train early.
Just purchased Patriot's History from Amazon. Thanks for the recommendation.
👍
Larry is good people. He has been on Free Republic for a long time, u/LS
For books, I would highly recommend two:
“Signing Their Lives Away: The Fame and Misfortune of the Men Who Signed the Declaration of Independence.”
“Signing Their Rights Away: The Fame and Misfortune of the Men Who Signed the United States Constitution.”
History non-fiction.
There are some older books available free on Google Books. E.g. this one is a grade school US History published in 1921 -- full text facsimile including maps and color illustrations, and downloadable as a PDF file:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Mace_Bogardus_History_of_the_United_Stat/veM9AQAAMAAJ
Also a high school text published in 1924:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_History_of_the_United_States/d51PAQAAIAAJ
I'm sure there are some college texts there also. These are just what I found on a quick search. It's hard to find books by topic in Google Books -- much easier to find a title and author elsewhere and then look for the actual book on Google Books.
I have an encyclopedia set from the 50s. Fairly based but obviously dated.
This is one of the reasons my son is based today. An elderly uncle left a full set of Encyclopedia Brittanica that was printed throughout the 50's...I think the uncle originally got them once a month over a few years. By the time he was 10, my son had them almost memorized. The factoid tweenager was a little annoying at the time, but I'm thankful for that now!.
Sadly that was me too. I think that was the reason people thought I was Autisic. I just had a good memory. I had a recent girl friend who hated it. She would roll her eyes. I did the same when she started talking about horses
Agreed. Pick up one of Teddy Roosevelt's books. Not biographies. One he wrote himself.
I wanna get my hands on older editions of the Encyclopedia Britannica
Estate sales and thrift stores.
Idk movies made before 1965 are pretty good. Back when you were still allowed to cast white people in a story about all white people.. even in a story about Chinese people like The Good Earth. but yes media in general is meant to manipulate and sway public opinion or sell you something. It has never really been in the hands of a non biased party.
Some not mentioned...
Gone With the Wind | 13 Hours | All Quiet on the Western Front | The Alamo (John Wayne) | The Shootist ( John Wayne) | Lone Survivor | Davy Crockett (Old 50s Disney Movie) | The John Adams series on HBO | We Were Soldiers | Band of Brothers series | The Pacific series | The Civil War - Ken Burns | Louis and Clark - Ken Burns | Vietnam - Ken Burns | Black Hawk Down
The Pacific was a masterpiece absolutely incredible writing and cinematography
Agree, liked them both but the pacific was really cathartic and stuck with me. It really captured the emotion and importance or reality for lack of better words of that time. Really ingrained in my memory what they went through.
mostly because the soldiers in the Pacific had it 10X harder than the ones in Europe
People like BoB because the whole series followed a single unit, which you could do in the European theater.
The Pacific had to cover so much more, and the battles were hellish. The entire series (except Basilone) was written based upon primary sources written by the characters; whereas BoB is a secondary source book by a great author.
Seeing ‘Tim’ from “Jurassic Park” all grown up as Eugene Sledge was awesome.
I watched The Pacific first and then Band of Brothers.
The Pacific was definitely the better choice.
Lone Survivor...
That's why you bring some stupid fuckin rope! Charlie Bronson's always got rope!
upvote for the Boondock Saints reference.
Don't forget Sons of Liberty
IMO, an excellent 3 part miniseries.
Not exactly historically accurate, though. More like a historical reboot with young actors and flashy production.
To Hell and Back. Watch it.
Will agree with Gone with the Wind, John Adams HBO miniseries, and anything by Ken Burns.
Any doc by Ken Burns is good, even though he's a commie shitbag now.
He always was.
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He always was, but he makes real documentaries (unlike propagandists like Michael Moore). The subject of the documentaries and the experts he chooses can slant the documentary a bit towards the left, but he’s always had experts who have been non biased and phenomenal. (I.e. - Shelby Foote from the Civil War series comes to mind. In that vein—Shelby Foote’s Civil War books are probably the best American History books you can read. They are VERY long, but absolutely worth it.)
I love his Vietnam documentary. He showed how messed up things were in Washington, and how they dragged it out way longer than they needed to.
Agree. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… there was any President that competes with Biden as “worst President ever,” it’s LBJ, not Carter. The main difference is that LBJ wasn’t intentionally trying to destroy the country, I don’t think.
The civil war doc is great.
You can just watch the first hour to get a summary, and if you like it you can keep watching the full 9. A lot easier getting people into it by saying it is an hour rather than "here, eat this 9 hour elephant"
Sure, I loved him shoehorning slavery in every 15 minutes in case your forgot about it.
Still better than tv, with them shoehorning woke ads in your face every 10
Comparing a 1990 documentary to 2022 commercial sets the bar really really low.
well, it's comparing what you or me or any schmuck can be wasting your time on today, and a lot of people still waste plenty of time with tv. Next time your watching tv, you or OP might consider a less crappy alternative. Kind of like picking out the brownie mix with 40% less feces than the competitor, really a no-brainer.
Talk about tilting at windmills.
I Fast forwarded through every slavery lecture in the Ben Franklin doc and it was good.
I mean they can have a few segments on it but my God like every half an hour they said something.
The Civil War. Loved it. But Burns not so much.
1)Last of the mohicans was the war before the revolution the french and indian war, not exactly usa but just before it
2)tora tora tora
3)legend of josie wales
I’ll second Last of the Mohicans
I loved that movie too, but seeing the British army disintegrate during every Huron attack was always eye rolling. It’s become a meme.
Was looking for this. Definitely captures the free man spirit, not a slave to the state. Live off the land, big government will only fuck you, frontier style American values.
The Clint Eastwood movie I listed was actually called the outlaw Josie Wales I believe but if you’re going to watch your old movie that is by far one of the best westerns ever made in my humble opinion
SANDLOT!
Times have shifted away from baseball, but I like to think MAGA is referring to Sandlot USA
Baseball got way too Hispanic.
❤️
Since the Clinton Presidency: 1984, idiocracy (free on youtube).
really, I don't watch many movies. But you probably mean things like Gettysburg.
Can't argue with you there on idiocracy. I'd also dare say it's valid for a lot of other countries apart from the US (cough EU cough).
I think I've heard of Gettysburg and I will look into it now, thanks!
Idiocracy is passe
Watch Don't Look Up
Idiocracy is more accurate.
Don’t Look Up is a little too woke for me. Plus it is unbelievable. You know that if a life-ending asteroid was coming, they would tell us we all need to wear hard hats to protect each other’s safety.
Turned: Washington's Spies Also The Civil War: Documentary by Ken Burns
Man, The ending to Turn was good
“Free State of Jones” is a fantastic film with Matthew McConaughey! It accurately accounts the Democrat party during and after the civil war. The parties never “flipped” and shows how they have always been the racist and devisive party they still are. ⭐️ ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Free State of Jones was actually pretty good but the end just drags. There were at least two or three times I thought the movie was over and moved to get up before being like “oop, I guess there’s more” and sitting back down again. Plus by the end I really had to pee, so that didn’t help. Lol
Thanks to the public schooling system, we don't know our own history very well either. :P
It's regrettable, even more so given that the US is not the only place where this applies.
or civics - teach them about weird shit instead of civics, math, history and finance - so they can get away with the bullshit they are doing now
True
In all seriousness, watch "To Hell and Back" with Audie Murphy. It will seem like it's fiction until you read more about it. He actually had to reign it in so it would be MORE believable than the truth (which is that Audie Murphy may have been the baddest motherfucker to ever walk this planet)
Watch it while listening to Sabaton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj4O63Swowo
Sgt. York
I dunno why this isn't on the list yet, but, Apollo 13.
I don't know about you but I can't even watch good movies with actors I know to be bad people anymore.
I'm with you there. I used to love American Beauty, and Big, for example.
I have the same problem with a lot of TV series with young stars, that I used to think were just fun shows, and now I can't stop worrying about what Disney and Hollywood put those young stars through.
Negative, Jim, I do not have the measles.
" Idiocracy " 2006 Starring Luke Wilson. Maya Rudolph, Dax shepherd and Terry Crews
President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho
He reminds me of AOC.
That's about world history, not US history, dummy!
It's not history, it's the future!
Well, it can be both, especially if you're looking at the past 20 years or so.
I still haven't ever seen this movie, but I'm going to have to now that Dr. Studley Hungwell has mentioned it! Dammit, you are a fucking genius, Studley!
If you like that you'll like Don't Look Up
I assume you were down-voted by someone who has not seen the movie.
The down-vote is probably based on the movie's publicity, which claims that the movie is about climate change (implying that it's about Republicans ignoring climate change), which is easy to believe, considering who is in the movie.
But the movie is really about the stupidity of Washington, and about how the Politicians, and special interests, will march the rest of us straight into disaster, if they think it serves their interests.
I enjoyed the movie, and recommend it.
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The Gangs of New York
Nearly 100% accurate and scarily like how things are today
Found that in an online list yesterday and thought it could be interesting.
Daniel Day Lewis is good in historical movies such as Lincoln and There Will Be Blood
Fun fact: His sister is a documentarian
Not to mention The Last of the Mohicans, right down to his accent.
Loved the way he said “Ken-tuck-yee.”
Gangs of new york is a solid choice
The Last of the Mohicans - it is a fictional story but set against the backdrop of real events of the French Indian war. It portrays some real engagements of the war as well.
Also it was actually shot in the blue ridge mountains (not ny).
It was shot in New York and North Carolina (Part of the Smokey Mountains look a lot like the Adirondacks).
Band of Brothers.
https://www.hbo.com/band-of-brothers
Already watched Band of Brothers a while ago, but a good suggestion nonetheless!
Cold mountain with jude law is great
i like movies like that one and Gangs of New York that show how the Civil War affected the country aside from the fighting
The book was a masterpiece.
Wag the Dog and Team America: World Police are a great laugh and on the nose
The pussies are covered in shit scene gets me every time. lmao
The Alamo.
The History Channel has a few miniseries I always found interesting like The Men Who Built America about individuals like Cornelius Vanderbilt, Andrew Carnegie, JP Morgan. There is also The Men Built America: Frontiersmen, The Titans that Built America, America: the Story of Us.
I remember "World At War" was a series from the 70's? Not sure where you can find it these days.
blazing saddles
Gone with the Wind
https://archive.org/details/gonewiththewind1939bluray
It is a three hour movie, but worth it. The history is accurate, Joy Ried demanded it be banned because it debunks her version of white people stealing black people's culture, you can watch it or download it here.
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HBO banned Gone with the Wind because the way it portrayed blacks was racist
Then they found out that the first black ever to win an Oscar was in it
So they added a video of some black woman saying dey ain' like dat to the beginning and started showing it again
The Patriot with Mel Gibson.
THIS ONE. WATCH THIS ONE FIRST. MUST WATCH. THIS IS THE ONE. SEE THIS FIRST.
We Were Soldiers is a really good one.
I like how all the soldiers look like they're old enough to all have sons in the war too
John Adams HBO series with Paul Giamatti.
I second this. The Killing series is great. I like it so much, I have every book in it, and I rush out to buy each new book in the series the day it’s released. Even if I’m like 6 books behind lol.
John Adams mini series
Need more Westerns. High Noon is excellent
Also Little House on the Prairie
Yeah Little House on the Prairie is good to see a late 1800's non western. It's pretty clean too. Your kid's can watch it. Throw the Waltons in there too. Depression era West Virginia
TV series "TURN" (with backward "R") is based on colonists spying on the British military before/during the revolution.
Edit to add: Bill O'Reilly's series "Legends and Lies" -- repetitive in places but fairly accurate.
Book: "A Patriot's History of the United States" by Larry Schweikart and Michael Allen.
Good Gracious I loved Turn. I still hate Capt Simcoe. Just fantastic
You know where to find Legends and Lies? I’ve looked all over for a place to watch it and can’t find it. I have the companion books so I wanna see the show
I found them on streaming sites. Not any official one and not all of them in any one place. If you have the books, you probably have more detail and a lot more info that a video.
Try sites with inblockit in their names or search for titles with "mp4" "mkv" or "streaming" in the search string. Stubbornness and some imagination will get you there. It is a real easter-egg hunt and after enough times I can't remember where I found stuff. Sites disappear all the time too; eztv.it used to be a GREAT place -- gone now.
Hamburger Hill - Its an 80's flick, but it's a good Vietnam Movie about the battles intensity.
They Live - As a sci-fi movie it represents the great reset agenda of 2030 and the battle to take back the United States.
We Were Soldiers
Saving Private Ryan
Midway
Tora Tora Tora
Battle of the Bulge
Also 2000 Mules about the 2020 election fraud and Capital Punishment about January 6th.
::wants to know about us history:: ::doesn’t want to watch old movies::
Old movies ARE history.
Some I haven't seen listed - 1776 (1972), Sergeant York, The longest Day, Patton, Midway (2019), Ford v Ferrari, Richard Jewell, Free State of Jones, Hacksaw Ridge, Apollo 13, The Spirit of St. Louis
Watch Band of Brothers!
Also, The Pacific.
The patriot
The old History channel special from back in the day. Its a 10 part series called "The Revolution"
It is hands down the best. Period.
Idiocracy
“The Oxbow Incident”
“Mr. Roberts” (actually an excellent essay on leadership and management)
“King of the North”
Oxbow is one of my all-time favorites. Chilling and eerily metaphoric of today's environment.
Yay!! Someone else has seen it!!!!!! 🤣👍
David Barton of Wallbuilders is a good resource on US history, especially the moral and religious heritage of our founding.
Watch documentaries
Do you have any in mind that you think are good?
There is alot on the tubi app for free they have a documentary section. It has a really wide range of subjects what are you most interested in?
Well, to be honest the 1800's are a period I'm more interested in because it's a period in US history that I know the least about. Pre 1800 would also be interesting. Also tubi app? You mean YT?
Check out "The Men Who Built America."
It has a bunch of interludes when some businessman comes in and gives his perspective. The first interlude, I heard a very familiar voice, our man Donald J Trump!
You may be interested in a YouTuber called "Townsend's". They cover a lot about American life in the 18th century.
Tubi is its own app.
No its a app called tubi for smart tvs but i think its for pc and phones too but im not sure. But old stuff like that you can probably find all you want on YouTube too they probably don't bother to censor much of the old stuff. Im a bit of a conspiracy theorist so i dont want to lead you in a direction that you might not be interested in but i feel like America was started out by mostly freemasons nearly everyone who signed the declaration of independence where masons and mostly all of the first presidents were. Their symbolism is all over Washington dc even how the streets run our money everything is full of symbolism. Then you get to the civil war it has alot of interesting stories. Look up the original Louisiana purchase
Masons are not all that bad though. You really think George Washington was evil?
I like the theory that the Masons were corrupted over time. Washington's Masons were not at all like today's Masons.
Perry Mason put a lot of bad people in jail
Ahaha!
Not saying he was evil just pointing out the influence the masons had in our founding fathers and that the symbolism has lasted to this day. Nobody alive today really will know what was going on back then but i guess the really high ranking that hold the secrets
I'm partly aware of the masonic roots and the symbols. I'm not that knowledgeable about it, but I have a general idea about it.
I just did a search on YouTube for first european settlers in america and it has plenty to get started with im about to watch a couple now
A year ago I would have agreed with you, but Tubi just lists a bunch of crap in their documentary listings now.
I dont know how their algorithm works or whatever they use but i have seen several really interesting documentaries on there one of them was right here in Louisiana that i had never heard the story about a opiod crises a doctor started by selling fake prescriptions and many more all true stories
I've watched some really good ones on there as well. Lately, though, I've seen mostly pop culture stuff - aliens, serial killers, etc.
You are right i have noticed it i fucked up and watched the jeffrey dahmer one that dude was sick. Recently though i saw a good one on jfk and showed how bush sr. And the c.i.a started drug trafficking it was real interesting it showed how someone cut jfk ear and head to make it look like he was shot from the side or from behind but he was shot from the front i had never seen those before and after pics before
The Making Of MoTown. Really interesting documentary about some of the best music to come out of the USA and featuring the people who made it happen.
Anything by Ken Burns is good but especially: The Civil War, Prohibition, Baseball, and The Vietnam War
Any Ken Burns documentary
The John Adams miniseries HBO did in 2008 was fantastic.
The 2008 John Adams miniseries.
That's honestly a pretty tall order. I haven't been able to find one that wasn't leftist bullshit in a long time.