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trump4life2024 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not everyone has a history of mental health issues and is openly talking about murdering people like the Buffalo shooter did.

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TheMadManDidItAgain 1 point ago +1 / -0

I didn't ask these questions for fun. I guess if you avoid answering these, I hope you at least reflect on them:

  • Do you think there needs to be a mental evaluation to determine if the person is safe to own a gun?
  • Who carries out that mental evaluation?
  • What conditions are needed to determine if somebody cannot own a firearm?
  • What does "shall not be infringed" mean to you?

You are willing to give away the Rights of 330,000,000 Americans just so you can have a false sense of security. Seriously, that is very evil, and incredibly selfish.

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trump4life2024 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am not advocating for mental health checks for every gun owner though. What I'm saying that if somebody already has a history of mental health issues and they are openly talking about wanting to murder people, that they shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun.

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TheMadManDidItAgain 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who polices that? Who has the right to report somebody? How can this be abused? In the future, how will this be eroded away, and what steps will be made to ensure these steps will not be abused to unarm the population?

You propose these ideas without thinking them through. Trying to prevent a crime before the crime actually happens is dystopian bullshit. It's thought crime level crazy. Many laws created have been bastardized and abused to attack the people. The Patriots Act is a good example, they are using the NSA and DHS to spy on American citizens. How about the 14th Amendment... this amendment was specifically created so that slaves would be considered US Citizens... but look how it has been bastardized in to "the 14th Amendment enshrines the right to abortion." That was not even close to the intention of the 14th Amendment.

Either you believe in freedom, liberty, and equality for all, or you don't. You seem to believe freedoms are contingent on other factors and can be taken away from you for accusation that you might commit a crime. I believe people are born with the freedoms and their Rights should only be taken away if they commit the crime or are caught about to commit a crime... I do not feel somebody saying they will do a crime is grounds for stripping away their Rights (with very few exception, such as somebody threatening the President).

Because we are such a free nation, there are some risks and downsides, and with that comes responsibilities. But the upsides and positive gains for all of humanity and for us (assuming you are in the US) far outweigh the risks.

I think we'll just have to leave it there. We're not going to come to terms on this. If you want to have the last word, then have at it.

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trump4life2024 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

What you are making is essentially just the slippery slope argument.