If they wrote their own bills based off the needs of their constituents there would be no lobbyists and DC the DC ‘burbs wouldn’t be loaded with the some of the wealthiest people in the country.
I do. It was one of the reasons I started listening to President Trump. He called it out. I was baffled someone had even done that on the national stage, and it was a Republican. And a very wealthy one. And that guy from the *#%ing "Apprentice"?
Long tough road for me but it started with that right there.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
There was so much pork they never felt the recession when it hit.
It was great for craigslist finds when I lived there. I would find all kinds of things people were offering for below market. Lovely houses too.
One of my favorites was a barely used trumpet that I picked up for a friends kid to use for the school band. It was their 'home' practice instrument so the kid didn't have to take it to school and back. I don't believe the kid ever used it.
Looking back I probably should have had a company that just bought things, picked it up and resold it on ebay.
You know, I live it one of them but it never occured to me why until now... I always heard "oh it's the rich senators" but never considered why the fuck those senators world be rich
They can’t, the constitution is meant to be a limited grant of specifically enumerated powers to the federal government.
The federal government was never meant to do the vast majority of what it engages in. This scope creep was facilitated in large part by the administrative state.
the most unconstitutional thing about our government is administrative law
EPA, OHSH, SEC etc make their own laws without benefit of the public having a voice, have their own enforcement and disputes are handled in administrative law courts rather than the judicial system
they are their own government
they need to be stripped of all of their power
their policies need to be debated and voted on in congress
and disputes should be resolved in the judicial system
I hope SCOTUS knocks the first brick out of the wall
I don't really think that necessarily matters to them. The dissenting opinion in this case stated "the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings and that the SEC was enforcing laws and statutes in the public interest".
That sound like the excuse every deep state member would make.
SCOTUS upholds it by not agreeing to review it. They get hundreds of requests each year to review Appeals Court rulings and reach year they only agree to review a few.
This Apperals Court is the LAST Court of Appeals and its ruling stands unless SCOTUS chooses to intervene. Why would SCOTUS choose to intervene when they're unusually "busy" right now?
The Based 5th Circuit! Best court in the land and they never get overturned like the (old) 9th Circuit. The next best is the 11th Circuit where we got the airline mask ruling from that Trump appointed judge. Both courts cover our southern states.
TX pedes need to get out and vote for AG Paxton! The 5th Circuit is where he does a lot of his business and buddy, business is good.
The entire administrative state is an unaccountable cesspool of bureaucratic experts who govern independent of our elected officials. The progressive movement created this Hegelian behemoth to subvert the will of the people. Congress delegated legislative, executive, and judicial authority to all these agencies. They have their own agents, courts, and policy makers. The court ruled that delegation of authority is unconstitutional.
It's actually just a bit worse than you represent.
Everything you said is true, but you forgot to put the layer of political appointees who know absolutely nothing, at the top of those cesspools of "experts".
Hm…like the 2020 stolen election? Or anything important to the American people, where SCOTUS decides not to take up the case because they dont want to anyone “rioting”? Huh?
It would make Trump’s worst move (directing the ATF to outlaw bump stocks by decree) and Biden’s similar infringements (Forced Reset Triggers, 80% kits) completely invalid without specific acts of congress.
Chevron deference is a practice our law system uses. Basically, the idea is that when there is a case involving something the judges can't comprehend (or when they're too lazy to research), they can just "defer" it to whatever govt entity typically deals with it. It's most notoriously used when there is a gun grabbing suit. A judge can use chevron deference to allow the ATF to make their own ruling, which is how our rights get trampled.
Holy shit, lets send this to the guys trying to fuck you for their guidance on this case trying to fuck you. Alright set it all on fire. Republicans need to be known as the phoenix now. Rebuild from the ashes!
In Chevron, the Supreme Court set forth a legal test as to when the court should defer to the agency’s answer or interpretation, holding that such judicial deference is appropriate where the agency’s answer was not unreasonable, so long as the Congress had not spoken directly to the precise issue at question.
IOW, the court says e.g. the EPA is the expert so we will go with what they say
As long as the answer was not unreasonable and/or there is no existing law that covers it
DOJ is a bureaucracy, and this ruling says they can't make rules because that's Congress' job, so the best effect is still the same: ATF rules get fucked.
Am I correct in thinking this means unconstitutional administrative law is basically null in the 5th circuit's jurisdiction, pending a few more lawsuits and SCOTUS appeal?
Just as the prospective Roe vs. Wade reversal opens the door to challenge the judgments of judicial activist judges violating the principle of the separation of powers by legislating from the bench on matters properly decided by elected representatives, not judges.
These judgments follow a theme which I hope will become a trend.
They don't "adjudicate" the same way the SEC does, but I agree with your idea that transparency and REAL oversight are needed for agencies that think they're above the law.
This may actually be why the RoevWade leak happened! The Congress cannot delegate law-making authority to the Executive. Means no 3 letter agencies with regulatory power.
It's not the declarations, it's the enforcement that are the problem but they are overseen by the tax courts so that's kind of their protection. The SEC isn't overseen by a specialty court like the IRS.
That is absolutely earth shaking in scope. Seems too good to be true. God. Can you imagine if they just pulled the plug on the administrative state? I think the deposed bureaucrats and they’re globohomo patrons would go on the offensive in a drastic way.
The reversal of Roe vs. Wade would be a strike against activist judges legislating from the bench, which is similar to the above judgment against unelected government agencies making up their own laws.
The United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC, also called the FISA Court) is aU.S. federal court *established under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) to oversee requests for surveillance warrants against foreign spies inside the United States by federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies. Such requests are made most often by the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). *
Appellate court rulings cover the entire nation. A lawyerly type would have to review the ruling to see how focused it is but the fact it came out of the 5th would mean it can cover a lot of ground.
You don't do sketchy stuff on wall street bro? Ever? Not even gifting yachts for insider knowledge or buying NFTs and then selling them for pennies on the dollar to reduce your tax liability? How do you even afford hooker's and blow, let alone judges, if you're following all the rules all the time?
I worked at an SEC compliance outfit that provided “consulting services” to banks, hedge funds, and private equity. The partners were all former SEC officers. It was corrupt as shit. Legalized bribery and extortion. These cases should be decided by federal judges with lifetime tenure on the federal payroll, not by “SEC judges,” who are looking to leave the SEC and cash out on “consulting services” on the cases they are deciding. Trump knows the mob and this is white collar mobbery. No wonder why the deep state wanted him out so bad. This corrupt shit goes on across the spectrum from banking, to intelligence, military contracting, etc. The deep state runs the federal government, not the other way around. You can always vote and change out the politicians, but the deep state bureaucrats remain in place across administrations. We need to get back to our basic constitutional roots. The entire administrative state is a giant festering oozing sore that is fueling inflation and subverting democracy.
This is the shot heard around the swamp. Going to watch this closely since this ruling just pulled the teeth out of damn near every govt agency... ATF, SEC, FAA, BLM, EPA... all if them. If they have to rely on the the justice department and true federal courts then their grift of preying on small unsuspecting people is over.
In a dissenting opinion, Judge Eugene Davis disagreed, saying the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings, and that the SEC was enforcing laws and statutes in the public interest.
Davis also said Congress did not overreach in empowering the SEC to enforce action through its administrative proceedings.
William Eugene Davis, known as W. Eugene Davis, is a Senior United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. His chambers are in New Orleans, Louisiana. Wikipedia
Born: August 18, 1936 (age 85 years), Winfield, AL
Party: Republican Party
Previous office: Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit (1983–2016)
Isn't it actually in the Constitution that all court proceedings have the right to a trial by jury?
Granted, they'll do everything in their power to get you to waive that right because the system has gotten so beaureacratically stupid. But the right is still there, despite their protestations to the contrary.
AFAIK, the only cases that don't have a right to trial by jury are civil cases between people, in which case the court functions as more of an arbitrator. Anything to do with laws or statutes, however, should have the ability to try by jury...
So does this mean that the three letter agencies that regulate shit won't be able to arbitrarily invent crimes to prosecute us for? I always thought it was bullshit that people we don't get to vote for get to essentially write their own laws.
I have zero faith in the Supreme Court besides Clarence Thomas. Chuck Shummer will call the Democrat base to protest in front of the SC Justice homes and threaten them and their family and they will cave to the mob. This country is a third world banana republic and the UniParty wants it that way. Fucking traitors and criminals who hate this country.
The ruling comes two days after the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to a hear a separate but similar case involving the SEC’s administrative powers and in-house judges in a suit brought by Texas accountant Michelle Cochran.
All it takes is a little criticism and Roberts is crying in the corner sucking his thumb.
I hope he doesn't take anymore cases that he will write a "no standing" decision. The SC has become a joke and with their equity hire, the MSM loving Sotomayor, the Deep State sleepers in Barret and Kavanaugh, the Supreme Court is dead to most Americans just like the Democrats wanted. America operates like a third world banana republic.
TBH, people won't get worked up over this case. Abortion they will as they have had it drilled into their heads that "aBoRtIoN iS iMpOrTaNt fOr WomEn's h341th".
It is funny how almost all people remain silent on abortion, it is almost like addressing the root causes of poverty (welfare, single parent households) that is never addressed so when there is no discourse it never gets solved. Women are the worst and the women who have experienced the miracle of birth are the most hard core about it but when it comes to vaccinations they turn into Covid Nazi's and they want to kill for their right to kill babies and kill people who refuse to give up their bodies to the clot shots. They want it both ways.
The most retarted statement by a lawyer/judge of all time “ in a dissenting opinion, Judge Eugene Davis disagreed, saying the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings and that the SEC was enforcing laws and statutes in the public interest.” public good? Who gets to determine that? Subjective and not evidence based….what a retard…..
saying the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings
Look, look! Another liberal shitbag inventing a standard out of thin-air with no grounding in the Constitution.
We need to introduce a check-and-balance on unconstitutional legislation, executive action, and judicial ruling. Let their blood water the Tree of Liberty to remind all their role in society.
Interesting... If extended into the DMV, it would mean the administrative boards don't have the right to be judge and prosecutor in suspending your drivers license for 30 days under a DUI.
That's precisely what I'm speaking of - rulings don't affect just federal law. In all the trials that I've internet arm-chair prosecuted, it's my professional opinion that states would be in scope of this.
The DMVs admin board, in my state, is the administrator of licensing, and judge, and executioner of administrative hearings.
When you think about it for a minute, this is literally the end of the SEC.
It removes any and all enforcement power from them.
The SEC would be forced to take every single case to the FBI and have them prosecute it in court.
Guess how the SEC is funded?
Fees and fines.
As currently structured, the SEC must go through the federal appropriations process for its annual operating budget, even though it annually collects registration fees that exceed its appropriations.
He's saying that they won't have the funding to do it.
Of course, they'll just petition for a greater apportionment of funds from congress and get that rubber stamped in the next mega bill as fiscal responsibility is a term that hasn't been seen in those halls except as a laughable and very not serious talking point from either side when convenient.
I'm only aware of a handful of Congress critters that preach getting the spending under control and the most well known are the Paul's.
So dumb guy terms it means an illegally created agency cant illegally make laws and have their own courts and judges uphold those illegal laws? Since it was all based on an illegally created organization? I'm kinda retarded and asking for a friend.
In a dissenting opinion, Judge Eugene Davis disagreed, saying the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings and that the SEC was enforcing laws and statutes in the public interest.
"Congress also unconstitutionally delegated power to the SEC to act as a legislative body, Elrod wrote."
Oooh! You're right - this is all Congress has done for a generation now. Hell, they can't even write their own 2700 page budgets and bills.
If they wrote their own bills based off the needs of their constituents there would be no lobbyists and DC the DC ‘burbs wouldn’t be loaded with the some of the wealthiest people in the country.
I do. It was one of the reasons I started listening to President Trump. He called it out. I was baffled someone had even done that on the national stage, and it was a Republican. And a very wealthy one. And that guy from the *#%ing "Apprentice"?
Long tough road for me but it started with that right there.
Wondering if you've seen all this stuff as well:
https://patriots.win/p/15HIhWzTCT/
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
History is filled with Christians who lived their entire lives, and their childrens’ lives as slaves.
The Book of Numbers in the Old Testament describes the freed slaves complaining that at least in Egypt they had food.
History is filled with those who freed men from other men as well.
and Tyrus
👍 good stuff
There was so much pork they never felt the recession when it hit.
It was great for craigslist finds when I lived there. I would find all kinds of things people were offering for below market. Lovely houses too.
One of my favorites was a barely used trumpet that I picked up for a friends kid to use for the school band. It was their 'home' practice instrument so the kid didn't have to take it to school and back. I don't believe the kid ever used it.
Looking back I probably should have had a company that just bought things, picked it up and resold it on ebay.
You know, I live it one of them but it never occured to me why until now... I always heard "oh it's the rich senators" but never considered why the fuck those senators world be rich
It's mostly foreign diplomats....
Fairfax and Loudoun counties are number 1 and 2
That one lobbyist was getting like 100 million from one Middle East country alone.
Now do the ATF.
Almost all federal agencies have "administrative courts & judges." I hope this will be upheld by the SCOTUS, but I kinda doubt it.
I mean the court kinda has a point. How can they di that and still uphold the constitution
They can’t, the constitution is meant to be a limited grant of specifically enumerated powers to the federal government.
The federal government was never meant to do the vast majority of what it engages in. This scope creep was facilitated in large part by the administrative state.
the most unconstitutional thing about our government is administrative law
EPA, OHSH, SEC etc make their own laws without benefit of the public having a voice, have their own enforcement and disputes are handled in administrative law courts rather than the judicial system
they are their own government
they need to be stripped of all of their power
their policies need to be debated and voted on in congress
and disputes should be resolved in the judicial system
I hope SCOTUS knocks the first brick out of the wall
So true, it's time to get back to what the founders intended!
You mean the federal government should not be telling my kids to cut their dicks off....!!!
I don't really think that necessarily matters to them. The dissenting opinion in this case stated "the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings and that the SEC was enforcing laws and statutes in the public interest".
That sound like the excuse every deep state member would make.
“Es für Ihre Sicherheit”
“It’s for your safety”
Any time your gov does something “for your safety” you should question it wholeheartedly.
Roberts is probably a no off the bat. Maybe Barrett too.
SCOTUS upholds it by not agreeing to review it. They get hundreds of requests each year to review Appeals Court rulings and reach year they only agree to review a few.
This Apperals Court is the LAST Court of Appeals and its ruling stands unless SCOTUS chooses to intervene. Why would SCOTUS choose to intervene when they're unusually "busy" right now?
they are different
they're not an administrative agency
She’s a Bush Jr. Appointee as well. Maybe just 1 in a few of the things he did right.
The Based 5th Circuit! Best court in the land and they never get overturned like the (old) 9th Circuit. The next best is the 11th Circuit where we got the airline mask ruling from that Trump appointed judge. Both courts cover our southern states.
TX pedes need to get out and vote for AG Paxton! The 5th Circuit is where he does a lot of his business and buddy, business is good.
Voted this week!! Love Paxton.
Got lucky
Blind squirrels, broken clocks, and all that jazz...
Does that apply to the other regulatory agencies or just the sec i.e. are all regulations currently void?
Can someone please explain this to me like I'm Joe Rogan watching Reiketa law? Is this good news or bad news?
The entire administrative state is an unaccountable cesspool of bureaucratic experts who govern independent of our elected officials. The progressive movement created this Hegelian behemoth to subvert the will of the people. Congress delegated legislative, executive, and judicial authority to all these agencies. They have their own agents, courts, and policy makers. The court ruled that delegation of authority is unconstitutional.
It's actually just a bit worse than you represent.
Everything you said is true, but you forgot to put the layer of political appointees who know absolutely nothing, at the top of those cesspools of "experts".
And right there you get "the agenda" for whatever party holds office.
There’s really only one party.
This guy gets it!
yes, the swampiest of the swamp cess.
I have doubts the supreme court has the balls to tear it all down.
I know the ATF makes up their own rules and has it's own law enforcement agents
The Post Office I think has it's own law enforcement.
Does the IRS have goons?
BLM? (land management)
The post office and the navy predate the US and are explicitly defined in the constitution. Everything else is fake.
Bill Clinton is a rapist
Infowars.com
They don't have to.
They just have to plug their fingers in their ears and go "La la la, we can't hear you!"
Failure to "Take up the case" by the Supremes is actually the normal route.
Besides, peasants lack "standing".
you people are so ignorant about how SCOTUS works
a case is submitted to SCOTUS
they check to see how the Appeals handled the case
if there is a question about the law that was applied, especially its Constitutionality, they will hear it
the vast majority of cases don't meet that criteria
Hm…like the 2020 stolen election? Or anything important to the American people, where SCOTUS decides not to take up the case because they dont want to anyone “rioting”? Huh?
totally incorrect
they did not take up the case based on centuries of established law
if they had taken it up, it would have set off a political nuclear bomb
if they were afraid of riots they would not have overturned RvW
One might argue the post office is authorized since that is a delegated power.
As to the ATF and others, that is harder to justify.
The ATF's main mission is violating the 2nd amendment.
So, COMPLETELY ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL
Check
Remember when the BLM killed Levoy Finicum ....
ATF, PO and the IRS are not administrative agencies
The IRS does not make its own laws but it does decide how they will be administered
BLM is part of the Department of the Interior which is responsible for things that are outside
So does this mean no more FBI?
No, they don't make laws or rules.
But it should mean no ATF.
Holy shit.
Clarification - should eliminate ATF rulemaking authority, not the agency itself. They'll still be out there killing your dog any chance they get.
It would make Trump’s worst move (directing the ATF to outlaw bump stocks by decree) and Biden’s similar infringements (Forced Reset Triggers, 80% kits) completely invalid without specific acts of congress.
Make gridlock great again.
Gridlock would be great. It’s better when congress does nothing
Don’t they have the rules on what kind of guns you can own and barrel length and what not?
Their "determinations" about what constitutes a machine gun, suppressor, short barreled rifle, etc would no longer carry the force of law.
Barrel length is part of federal law with the NFA, but they have lots of other rules
Holy shit indeed.
End of chevron deference?
What’s that?
Chevron deference is a practice our law system uses. Basically, the idea is that when there is a case involving something the judges can't comprehend (or when they're too lazy to research), they can just "defer" it to whatever govt entity typically deals with it. It's most notoriously used when there is a gun grabbing suit. A judge can use chevron deference to allow the ATF to make their own ruling, which is how our rights get trampled.
Wow I have never heard of that. Thank you for letting me know. And it’s also horeshit.
Holy shit, lets send this to the guys trying to fuck you for their guidance on this case trying to fuck you. Alright set it all on fire. Republicans need to be known as the phoenix now. Rebuild from the ashes!
In Chevron, the Supreme Court set forth a legal test as to when the court should defer to the agency’s answer or interpretation, holding that such judicial deference is appropriate where the agency’s answer was not unreasonable, so long as the Congress had not spoken directly to the precise issue at question.
IOW, the court says e.g. the EPA is the expert so we will go with what they say
As long as the answer was not unreasonable and/or there is no existing law that covers it
u/WVboi u/IvotedforTrumptwice
nope, ATF is part of the DOJ
DOJ is a bureaucracy, and this ruling says they can't make rules because that's Congress' job, so the best effect is still the same: ATF rules get fucked.
DOJ does not make laws but they do decide how to enforce them
if the ATF busts you, you will go to trial in a regular criminal court so this is NA for them
I see it more like never again "the CDC making arbitrary rules about things they shouldn't be even thinking of".
You're telling my racism isn't a disease?
But your spleen may have a bad case of climate change. Looks like a medical emergency to me!
Don't be a retard
I am willing to admit that when it comes to judicial proceedings, I am in fact a retard.
I too am terarded
Like a pilot or something
Me too, I feel the same way a lawyer feels when I try to explain him how enthalpy management affects the comfort of his office.
Somebody asked to explain like they were listening to Joe Rogan and the response was "created this Hegelian behemoth". Not helping.
😂😂😂 he couldn't come down to our level. He tried though.
lmao
(You should know who Hegel is. He's pretty important in leftist philosophy. James Lindsay has a podcast about it and name drops him often.)
Lol I love when my thoughtless throwaway posts get tons of downvotes
Am I correct in thinking this means unconstitutional administrative law is basically null in the 5th circuit's jurisdiction, pending a few more lawsuits and SCOTUS appeal?
Would probably take some more test cases with lawyers bring up this case as precedent for taking down other alphabet agencies.
it opens the door for that
Just as the prospective Roe vs. Wade reversal opens the door to challenge the judgments of judicial activist judges violating the principle of the separation of powers by legislating from the bench on matters properly decided by elected representatives, not judges.
These judgments follow a theme which I hope will become a trend.
what we are seeing is a SCOTUS that is focused on adhering to the Constitution
when politicians get that through their head, they won't even try to make laws that the court will throw out
And Dodd Frank act.
It’s a very good thing, read the article they explain it in clear terms that the SEC cannot be judge, jury, and executioner.
Good news. I got halfway through the article but got the idea it’s good. The SEC can’t use internal courts.
Ask Rekieta tonight.
Rakets.
I’m not sure, but I’m thinking it may be that this same logic would apply across the whole swamp of leftist-run bureaucracies.
IRS.
nope
IRS is part of the Department of the Treasury
Now do the ATF
Dude, I can only upvote you once!
Yep it will disappear.
Ironically the ATF almost was eliminated under Carter of all people
Well, Joe seems to be trying to be Carter x10 so maybe he can push it over the edge?
"almost"
He's still the worst, third only to Biden and Obama.
They don't "adjudicate" the same way the SEC does, but I agree with your idea that transparency and REAL oversight are needed for agencies that think they're above the law.
This may actually be why the RoevWade leak happened! The Congress cannot delegate law-making authority to the Executive. Means no 3 letter agencies with regulatory power.
Who would this include exactly? Please be gentle because I am already very erect.
EPA, OSHA, SEC, ATF, CDC, IRS, and definitely more that I am missing.
FDA?
As well as FCC, FAA
No no no that’s too much freedom.
I’m gonna do whatever I want!
Packs things, heads to the Wild West
FTC, DEA, TSA, NSA
Also I said be gentle. Please it’s starting to hurt.
If this is upheld by the Supreme Court, your erection may last longer than 4 years.
CDC does not make laws
IRS is department of the treasury
no but they make declarations given the force of law like trying to cancel rent on private properties
this is the kind of semantic bs they use to make non-laws with criminal penalties
that CDC mandate exceeded their authority
Biden tried to use them to get around the Constitution
It's not the declarations, it's the enforcement that are the problem but they are overseen by the tax courts so that's kind of their protection. The SEC isn't overseen by a specialty court like the IRS.
Easier to say who it doesn't, almost.
Uh. I think NIST has been a pretty straight-and-narrow kind of place. And they're 'specifically enumerated'. So.
We're up to one place.
Central Intelligence Agency
Environment Protection Agency
Commodity Futures Trading Commission
Federal Election Commission
Federal Communications Commission
Federal Trade Commission
General Services Administration
National Archives and Records Administration
National Labor Relations Board
National Transportation Safety Board
Small Business Administration
Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)
United States Agency for International Development
United States Postal Service
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
Lol
All of the TLAs.
Like the WHO next week?
That is absolutely earth shaking in scope. Seems too good to be true. God. Can you imagine if they just pulled the plug on the administrative state? I think the deposed bureaucrats and they’re globohomo patrons would go on the offensive in a drastic way.
Wait, why does this relate to the leak?
The reversal of Roe vs. Wade would be a strike against activist judges legislating from the bench, which is similar to the above judgment against unelected government agencies making up their own laws.
This is good news. Very good indeed. How much shit will get overturned because of it might be amazing.
Nothing will come of it... welcome to the swamp.
get lost doomer
Get real bro
Its' not "dooming" its called "remembering the last few years" dipshit
it's called sitting on your ass and bitching instead of getting up and changing things
commie
And you are doing what exactly to "change things"?
i write to my various reps when they can resolve a problem
and I vote
As we all are so stop being a bitch to your fellow pedes.
SCOTUS fucked us once, they'll fuck us again
No standing.
In this case, that would be good because it would uphold the 5th circuit ruling.
Which means they will do something.
They wont
Good. I hope it stands with this court.
Laches
Lahes
Lesbians
Moot
Aka bend over
upholding the 1A, doing away with Roe V Wade, throwing down mandates...
you are a doomer and need to leave
Oh fuck off will you? Your blind faith in the system is what got us here
no, it was your lack of faith
you did not vote, contact your reps or other get involved in the political process
YOU sat back and let it happen
and they did not fuck us, they stood on established law and saved us from a disaster
Oh I didn't vote? News to me. I did leave voicemails for representatives. They don't give a fuck. Eat me
do me a favor and hang yourself if you're that pathetic
Now do FISA.
SCOTUS is fisa
You’re not exactly wrong but it actually is a law itself. The court portion is just under Roberts purview.
that is an act, not an agency
Go look up what the A in FISA stands for and come back and let me know.
If you mean FISA court it's a US federal court
Edit: I read that backwards.
The point is this ruling suggests that the court is illegal because it’s exterior to the established system.
Likewise the FISA court is both external to the established system and lacks due process.
The United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC, also called the FISA Court) is a U.S. federal court *established under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) to oversee requests for surveillance warrants against foreign spies inside the United States by federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies. Such requests are made most often by the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). *
FISA is not an agency
FISA court focuses solely on issuing surveillance warrants
swearing out a warrant requires names, who, what where and other info that could compromise an operation
that requires a secure quote and judges and other staff with security clearances
there is a need for it but it definitely needs to be brought under control
Thanks FBI.
‘end of administrative state’
good news but seems a bit hyperbolic.
Yeah, if this doesn't go beyond the SEC, I have a hard time seeing how it benefits, or even impacts, 99% of Americans.
Appellate court rulings cover the entire nation. A lawyerly type would have to review the ruling to see how focused it is but the fact it came out of the 5th would mean it can cover a lot of ground.
Even if it doesn't immediately apply, it sets a precedent which can be referred to in suits against all the other regulatory bodies.
it would set a precedent that would take away administrative agencies abilities to use their own courts
You don't do sketchy stuff on wall street bro? Ever? Not even gifting yachts for insider knowledge or buying NFTs and then selling them for pennies on the dollar to reduce your tax liability? How do you even afford hooker's and blow, let alone judges, if you're following all the rules all the time?
I worked at an SEC compliance outfit that provided “consulting services” to banks, hedge funds, and private equity. The partners were all former SEC officers. It was corrupt as shit. Legalized bribery and extortion. These cases should be decided by federal judges with lifetime tenure on the federal payroll, not by “SEC judges,” who are looking to leave the SEC and cash out on “consulting services” on the cases they are deciding. Trump knows the mob and this is white collar mobbery. No wonder why the deep state wanted him out so bad. This corrupt shit goes on across the spectrum from banking, to intelligence, military contracting, etc. The deep state runs the federal government, not the other way around. You can always vote and change out the politicians, but the deep state bureaucrats remain in place across administrations. We need to get back to our basic constitutional roots. The entire administrative state is a giant festering oozing sore that is fueling inflation and subverting democracy.
This is the shot heard around the swamp. Going to watch this closely since this ruling just pulled the teeth out of damn near every govt agency... ATF, SEC, FAA, BLM, EPA... all if them. If they have to rely on the the justice department and true federal courts then their grift of preying on small unsuspecting people is over.
Central Intelligence Agency
Environment Protection Agency
Commodity Futures Trading Commission
Federal Election Commission
Federal Communications Commission
Federal Trade Commission
General Services Administration
National Archives and Records Administration
National Labor Relations Board
National Transportation Safety Board
Small Business Administration
Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)
United States Agency for International Development
United States Postal Service
Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
Time to research this Davis fella.
William Eugene Davis, known as W. Eugene Davis, is a Senior United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. His chambers are in New Orleans, Louisiana. Wikipedia Born: August 18, 1936 (age 85 years), Winfield, AL Party: Republican Party Previous office: Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit (1983–2016)
big surprise the dissenter grew up in the progressive era
he is a Reagan appointee
Isn't it actually in the Constitution that all court proceedings have the right to a trial by jury?
Granted, they'll do everything in their power to get you to waive that right because the system has gotten so beaureacratically stupid. But the right is still there, despite their protestations to the contrary.
AFAIK, the only cases that don't have a right to trial by jury are civil cases between people, in which case the court functions as more of an arbitrator. Anything to do with laws or statutes, however, should have the ability to try by jury...
Scotus wont. Jumanji Brown ensures that. They knew this case was happening.
She's not seated on the court yet.
Presumably she will be seated in time to help pick next year's docket.
she is not that important as a junior justice on a court of 9
So does this mean that the three letter agencies that regulate shit won't be able to arbitrarily invent crimes to prosecute us for? I always thought it was bullshit that people we don't get to vote for get to essentially write their own laws.
they can still do that for now but they will have to prosecute in the judicial system instead of administrative law court
I have zero faith in the Supreme Court besides Clarence Thomas. Chuck Shummer will call the Democrat base to protest in front of the SC Justice homes and threaten them and their family and they will cave to the mob. This country is a third world banana republic and the UniParty wants it that way. Fucking traitors and criminals who hate this country.
The 5th Circuit's rulings are pretty solid and rarely get overturned. It's possible the SCOTUS doesn't even take the case.
https://www.scotusblog.com/2022/05/justices-grant-review-in-two-cases-that-test-jurisdiction-of-district-courts/
Looks like they are
Different cases.
All it takes is a little criticism and Roberts is crying in the corner sucking his thumb. I hope he doesn't take anymore cases that he will write a "no standing" decision. The SC has become a joke and with their equity hire, the MSM loving Sotomayor, the Deep State sleepers in Barret and Kavanaugh, the Supreme Court is dead to most Americans just like the Democrats wanted. America operates like a third world banana republic.
TBH, people won't get worked up over this case. Abortion they will as they have had it drilled into their heads that "aBoRtIoN iS iMpOrTaNt fOr WomEn's h341th".
It is funny how almost all people remain silent on abortion, it is almost like addressing the root causes of poverty (welfare, single parent households) that is never addressed so when there is no discourse it never gets solved. Women are the worst and the women who have experienced the miracle of birth are the most hard core about it but when it comes to vaccinations they turn into Covid Nazi's and they want to kill for their right to kill babies and kill people who refuse to give up their bodies to the clot shots. They want it both ways.
lll
Do tax court next
Big if huge?
Amy Shumer if big?
Most underrated comment so far in my scroll
Amy Shumer if Rosie O'Donnell.
Rosie O'Donnell if Moby Dick
Michelle Obama's dick if Moby Dick.
J.B. Prizker eating Stacy Abrahams huge
Well...Congress has outsourced everything they do except collect campaign donations and get elected.
They don't write laws anymore and rely totally on NGO's to 'advise them'...
The first they they do after winning their election is to prepare for the next election.
Everything else is just Bullshit...
Here are the two jokers who started these kangaroo courts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Dodd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank
Nipples protruding, very disrespectful
Narrator: In the end, the decision was not upheld by SCOTUS.
They don’t even have to see it though.
Where does administrative proceeding appear in the constitution?
just before gun control and after abortion rights
nowhere
This is a big deal.
Now do the IRS.
The most retarted statement by a lawyer/judge of all time “ in a dissenting opinion, Judge Eugene Davis disagreed, saying the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings and that the SEC was enforcing laws and statutes in the public interest.” public good? Who gets to determine that? Subjective and not evidence based….what a retard…..
Look, look! Another liberal shitbag inventing a standard out of thin-air with no grounding in the Constitution.
We need to introduce a check-and-balance on unconstitutional legislation, executive action, and judicial ruling. Let their blood water the Tree of Liberty to remind all their role in society.
Interesting... If extended into the DMV, it would mean the administrative boards don't have the right to be judge and prosecutor in suspending your drivers license for 30 days under a DUI.
DMV is state.
Fedgov != state
But such a decision could destroy admin states too.
That's precisely what I'm speaking of - rulings don't affect just federal law. In all the trials that I've internet arm-chair prosecuted, it's my professional opinion that states would be in scope of this.
The DMVs admin board, in my state, is the administrator of licensing, and judge, and executioner of administrative hearings.
When you think about it for a minute, this is literally the end of the SEC.
It removes any and all enforcement power from them.
The SEC would be forced to take every single case to the FBI and have them prosecute it in court.
Guess how the SEC is funded?
Fees and fines.
the SEC can still do SEC stuff but they have to justify it in regular court
He's saying that they won't have the funding to do it.
Of course, they'll just petition for a greater apportionment of funds from congress and get that rubber stamped in the next mega bill as fiscal responsibility is a term that hasn't been seen in those halls except as a laughable and very not serious talking point from either side when convenient.
I'm only aware of a handful of Congress critters that preach getting the spending under control and the most well known are the Paul's.
they can use the money they save by not having to run their own judicial system
It violates the 7th penis.
Don’t know why the downvotes, this is hilarious
The only comment here that made me have a chuckle.
I’m still cracking up
Faggots are here all the time. Just like when we were on Reddit.
That’s ok. I knew it would get downvotes. People are prudes! Kek
It should be put into the penile system
Now this is actually a huge happening!!!
Hello. Based department….
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Kek!!
Now do the ATF
Also going to point out the SEC is largely the most neutral of all the deep state
Can someone type that title in english
can this be real?
That dissenting judge has got to go, his minority opinion is weak AF.
Basically “not it doesn’t”
Dodd-Frank - We were warned.
And is that fat, grotesque, cock-sucking faggot Barney Frank still alive?
Is the "administrative state" the Overton-window-approved term for the deep state?
For lowercase-d deep state, yes.
it's a little more specific to administrative agencies
deep state would include all the branches of government, maybe both state/fed too
statists may hate admins but still simp for the rest of it as "necessary"
Woot no FFA or FDA. let America be FREE.
FFA Future Farmers of America?
i thought the same thing
you can sure tell folks that lived in the midwest
Noe do EPA and BLM. No more insane fuel economy regs and drilling restrictions.
"This will be the end of the administrative state if upheld by SCOTUS." Do not fucking tease me.
FUCKING HELL YES
HA…DC fag Hill writers can’t take comment!
Since when do laws matter.
END THE FED!!!! LETS GOOOO!!!!
“act as both prosecutor and judge.” Sylvester Stallone as Judge Dredd "I am the law" is all I thought about throughout the rest of the article
Non-delegation doctrine is necessary to save the Republic.
This is a good step
So dumb guy terms it means an illegally created agency cant illegally make laws and have their own courts and judges uphold those illegal laws? Since it was all based on an illegally created organization? I'm kinda retarded and asking for a friend.
i don't think they ruled on the legality of the agency itself, just the enforcement and adjudications being in-house
These parasites , like the jab, are slaves to their own government - they have no concept of government corruption, the system is their church
Bigger than Roe V Wade and it will float by under the Radar. Imagine the PANIC that nobody will know....ULTRAMAGADELICIOUS
How are those SEC investigators gonna get jobs at those big corporations now after spending 4 years working for the government?
So. Two more years, now...
SEC has internal judges? Wow.