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slokill 297 points ago +297 / -0

"Congress also unconstitutionally delegated power to the SEC to act as a legislative body, Elrod wrote."

Oooh! You're right - this is all Congress has done for a generation now. Hell, they can't even write their own 2700 page budgets and bills.

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GOPkilledTHEMSELVES 157 points ago +157 / -0

If they wrote their own bills based off the needs of their constituents there would be no lobbyists and DC the DC ‘burbs wouldn’t be loaded with the some of the wealthiest people in the country.

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Dictator_Bob 100 points ago +101 / -1

I do. It was one of the reasons I started listening to President Trump. He called it out. I was baffled someone had even done that on the national stage, and it was a Republican. And a very wealthy one. And that guy from the *#%ing "Apprentice"?

Long tough road for me but it started with that right there.

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RedPillForceFeed 21 points ago +21 / -0

Wondering if you've seen all this stuff as well:
https://patriots.win/p/15HIhWzTCT/

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Dictator_Bob 44 points ago +44 / -0

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

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K-Harbour 11 points ago +11 / -0

History is filled with Christians who lived their entire lives, and their childrens’ lives as slaves.

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BarronVonSaltzburg26 6 points ago +6 / -0

The Book of Numbers in the Old Testament describes the freed slaves complaining that at least in Egypt they had food.

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Dictator_Bob 2 points ago +2 / -0

History is filled with those who freed men from other men as well.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

and Tyrus

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Numbersgirl 3 points ago +3 / -0

👍 good stuff

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LawlAndDisorder 20 points ago +20 / -0

There was so much pork they never felt the recession when it hit.

It was great for craigslist finds when I lived there. I would find all kinds of things people were offering for below market. Lovely houses too.

One of my favorites was a barely used trumpet that I picked up for a friends kid to use for the school band. It was their 'home' practice instrument so the kid didn't have to take it to school and back. I don't believe the kid ever used it.

Looking back I probably should have had a company that just bought things, picked it up and resold it on ebay.

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WuFluHoax 18 points ago +18 / -0

You know, I live it one of them but it never occured to me why until now... I always heard "oh it's the rich senators" but never considered why the fuck those senators world be rich

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MikeObamasVeineyCock 7 points ago +8 / -1

It's mostly foreign diplomats....

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MasklessMarvel 5 points ago +5 / -0

Fairfax and Loudoun counties are number 1 and 2

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Foreign_Aid_is_Theft 2 points ago +2 / -0

That one lobbyist was getting like 100 million from one Middle East country alone.

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JohnCocktoasten 50 points ago +50 / -0

Now do the ATF.

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RedPillForceFeed 24 points ago +24 / -0

Almost all federal agencies have "administrative courts & judges." I hope this will be upheld by the SCOTUS, but I kinda doubt it.

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dizzle_izzle 8 points ago +8 / -0

I mean the court kinda has a point. How can they di that and still uphold the constitution

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NullifyAndSecede 26 points ago +26 / -0

They can’t, the constitution is meant to be a limited grant of specifically enumerated powers to the federal government.

The federal government was never meant to do the vast majority of what it engages in. This scope creep was facilitated in large part by the administrative state.

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MasklessMarvel 12 points ago +12 / -0

the most unconstitutional thing about our government is administrative law

EPA, OHSH, SEC etc make their own laws without benefit of the public having a voice, have their own enforcement and disputes are handled in administrative law courts rather than the judicial system

they are their own government

they need to be stripped of all of their power

their policies need to be debated and voted on in congress

and disputes should be resolved in the judicial system

I hope SCOTUS knocks the first brick out of the wall

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Cavetoad_1776 3 points ago +3 / -0

So true, it's time to get back to what the founders intended!

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EdmondDantesDog 4 points ago +5 / -1

You mean the federal government should not be telling my kids to cut their dicks off....!!!

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Dane4Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don't really think that necessarily matters to them. The dissenting opinion in this case stated "the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings and that the SEC was enforcing laws and statutes in the public interest".

That sound like the excuse every deep state member would make.

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MastaJoda 4 points ago +4 / -0

“Es für Ihre Sicherheit”

“It’s for your safety”

Any time your gov does something “for your safety” you should question it wholeheartedly.

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flashersenpai 2 points ago +2 / -0

Roberts is probably a no off the bat. Maybe Barrett too.

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Cozette 0 points ago +1 / -1

SCOTUS upholds it by not agreeing to review it. They get hundreds of requests each year to review Appeals Court rulings and reach year they only agree to review a few.

This Apperals Court is the LAST Court of Appeals and its ruling stands unless SCOTUS chooses to intervene. Why would SCOTUS choose to intervene when they're unusually "busy" right now?

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

they are different

they're not an administrative agency

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CommiesAreFags 20 points ago +22 / -2

She’s a Bush Jr. Appointee as well. Maybe just 1 in a few of the things he did right.

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Cyer6 22 points ago +22 / -0

The Based 5th Circuit! Best court in the land and they never get overturned like the (old) 9th Circuit. The next best is the 11th Circuit where we got the airline mask ruling from that Trump appointed judge. Both courts cover our southern states.

TX pedes need to get out and vote for AG Paxton! The 5th Circuit is where he does a lot of his business and buddy, business is good.

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rextexMG 3 points ago +3 / -0

Voted this week!! Love Paxton.

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doug2 12 points ago +12 / -0

Got lucky

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NeoDragoon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Blind squirrels, broken clocks, and all that jazz...

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MasterChef 4 points ago +4 / -0

Does that apply to the other regulatory agencies or just the sec i.e. are all regulations currently void?

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daFFYDOOK 130 points ago +130 / -0

Can someone please explain this to me like I'm Joe Rogan watching Reiketa law? Is this good news or bad news?

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FreeChopperRides [S] 216 points ago +216 / -0

The entire administrative state is an unaccountable cesspool of bureaucratic experts who govern independent of our elected officials. The progressive movement created this Hegelian behemoth to subvert the will of the people. Congress delegated legislative, executive, and judicial authority to all these agencies. They have their own agents, courts, and policy makers. The court ruled that delegation of authority is unconstitutional.

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War_Hamster 98 points ago +98 / -0

It's actually just a bit worse than you represent.

Everything you said is true, but you forgot to put the layer of political appointees who know absolutely nothing, at the top of those cesspools of "experts".

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Cyer6 28 points ago +28 / -0

And right there you get "the agenda" for whatever party holds office.

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OKRancher 13 points ago +13 / -0

There’s really only one party.

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MastaJoda 3 points ago +3 / -0

This guy gets it!

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SmokeyAF 8 points ago +8 / -0

yes, the swampiest of the swamp cess.

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Shamb3 20 points ago +21 / -1

I have doubts the supreme court has the balls to tear it all down.

I know the ATF makes up their own rules and has it's own law enforcement agents

The Post Office I think has it's own law enforcement.

Does the IRS have goons?

BLM? (land management)

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djpat 38 points ago +38 / -0

The post office and the navy predate the US and are explicitly defined in the constitution. Everything else is fake.

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Jackno8d 28 points ago +28 / -0
  • and gay.
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Hatefullynch 12 points ago +12 / -0

Bill Clinton is a rapist

Infowars.com

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ShrikeDeCil 16 points ago +16 / -0

I have doubts the supreme court has the balls to tear it all down.

They don't have to.

They just have to plug their fingers in their ears and go "La la la, we can't hear you!"

Failure to "Take up the case" by the Supremes is actually the normal route.

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HotRoastedNuts 3 points ago +3 / -0

Besides, peasants lack "standing".

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +3 / -0

you people are so ignorant about how SCOTUS works

a case is submitted to SCOTUS

they check to see how the Appeals handled the case

if there is a question about the law that was applied, especially its Constitutionality, they will hear it

the vast majority of cases don't meet that criteria

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MastaJoda 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hm…like the 2020 stolen election? Or anything important to the American people, where SCOTUS decides not to take up the case because they dont want to anyone “rioting”? Huh?

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MasklessMarvel -1 points ago +1 / -2

totally incorrect

they did not take up the case based on centuries of established law

if they had taken it up, it would have set off a political nuclear bomb

if they were afraid of riots they would not have overturned RvW

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tired-of-crap 5 points ago +5 / -0

One might argue the post office is authorized since that is a delegated power.

As to the ATF and others, that is harder to justify.

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RedAltoids 5 points ago +5 / -0

The ATF's main mission is violating the 2nd amendment.

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MastaJoda 2 points ago +2 / -0

So, COMPLETELY ILLEGAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL

Check

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LibertyBelle45 4 points ago +4 / -0

Remember when the BLM killed Levoy Finicum ....

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

ATF, PO and the IRS are not administrative agencies

The IRS does not make its own laws but it does decide how they will be administered

BLM is part of the Department of the Interior which is responsible for things that are outside

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IvotedforTrumptwice 9 points ago +10 / -1

So does this mean no more FBI?

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MickMoss1 82 points ago +82 / -0

No, they don't make laws or rules.
But it should mean no ATF.

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IvotedforTrumptwice 28 points ago +28 / -0

Holy shit.

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MickMoss1 74 points ago +74 / -0

Clarification - should eliminate ATF rulemaking authority, not the agency itself. They'll still be out there killing your dog any chance they get.

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NullifyAndSecede 12 points ago +12 / -0

It would make Trump’s worst move (directing the ATF to outlaw bump stocks by decree) and Biden’s similar infringements (Forced Reset Triggers, 80% kits) completely invalid without specific acts of congress.

Make gridlock great again.

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rextexMG 3 points ago +3 / -0

Gridlock would be great. It’s better when congress does nothing

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IvotedforTrumptwice 10 points ago +10 / -0

Don’t they have the rules on what kind of guns you can own and barrel length and what not?

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liberpede 37 points ago +37 / -0

Their "determinations" about what constitutes a machine gun, suppressor, short barreled rifle, etc would no longer carry the force of law.

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MickMoss1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Barrel length is part of federal law with the NFA, but they have lots of other rules

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DTOM1776 9 points ago +9 / -0

Holy shit indeed.

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WVboi 11 points ago +11 / -0

End of chevron deference?

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IvotedforTrumptwice 4 points ago +5 / -1

What’s that?

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WVboi 21 points ago +21 / -0

Chevron deference is a practice our law system uses. Basically, the idea is that when there is a case involving something the judges can't comprehend (or when they're too lazy to research), they can just "defer" it to whatever govt entity typically deals with it. It's most notoriously used when there is a gun grabbing suit. A judge can use chevron deference to allow the ATF to make their own ruling, which is how our rights get trampled.

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IvotedforTrumptwice 11 points ago +12 / -1

Wow I have never heard of that. Thank you for letting me know. And it’s also horeshit.

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SaltyAv8er 4 points ago +4 / -0

Holy shit, lets send this to the guys trying to fuck you for their guidance on this case trying to fuck you. Alright set it all on fire. Republicans need to be known as the phoenix now. Rebuild from the ashes!

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +3 / -0

In Chevron, the Supreme Court set forth a legal test as to when the court should defer to the agency’s answer or interpretation, holding that such judicial deference is appropriate where the agency’s answer was not unreasonable, so long as the Congress had not spoken directly to the precise issue at question.

IOW, the court says e.g. the EPA is the expert so we will go with what they say

As long as the answer was not unreasonable and/or there is no existing law that covers it

u/WVboi u/IvotedforTrumptwice

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

nope, ATF is part of the DOJ

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MickMoss1 2 points ago +2 / -0

DOJ is a bureaucracy, and this ruling says they can't make rules because that's Congress' job, so the best effect is still the same: ATF rules get fucked.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

DOJ does not make laws but they do decide how to enforce them

if the ATF busts you, you will go to trial in a regular criminal court so this is NA for them

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BilbroNaggins 16 points ago +16 / -0

I see it more like never again "the CDC making arbitrary rules about things they shouldn't be even thinking of".

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JS_Mill 4 points ago +4 / -0

You're telling my racism isn't a disease?

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Taliesin 3 points ago +3 / -0

But your spleen may have a bad case of climate change. Looks like a medical emergency to me!

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doug2 -21 points ago +2 / -23

Don't be a retard

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IvotedforTrumptwice 24 points ago +24 / -0

I am willing to admit that when it comes to judicial proceedings, I am in fact a retard.

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DCSucks 7 points ago +7 / -0

I too am terarded

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Hatefullynch 2 points ago +2 / -0

Like a pilot or something

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St_James_Moor-slayer 4 points ago +5 / -1

Me too, I feel the same way a lawyer feels when I try to explain him how enthalpy management affects the comfort of his office.

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Lady_Stallion 8 points ago +8 / -0

Somebody asked to explain like they were listening to Joe Rogan and the response was "created this Hegelian behemoth". Not helping.

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St_James_Moor-slayer 5 points ago +6 / -1

😂😂😂 he couldn't come down to our level. He tried though.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

lmao

(You should know who Hegel is. He's pretty important in leftist philosophy. James Lindsay has a podcast about it and name drops him often.)

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doug2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol I love when my thoughtless throwaway posts get tons of downvotes

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RStroud 7 points ago +7 / -0

Am I correct in thinking this means unconstitutional administrative law is basically null in the 5th circuit's jurisdiction, pending a few more lawsuits and SCOTUS appeal?

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NullifyAndSecede 4 points ago +4 / -0

Would probably take some more test cases with lawyers bring up this case as precedent for taking down other alphabet agencies.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

it opens the door for that

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Taliesin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Just as the prospective Roe vs. Wade reversal opens the door to challenge the judgments of judicial activist judges violating the principle of the separation of powers by legislating from the bench on matters properly decided by elected representatives, not judges.

These judgments follow a theme which I hope will become a trend.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

what we are seeing is a SCOTUS that is focused on adhering to the Constitution

when politicians get that through their head, they won't even try to make laws that the court will throw out

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The_Emperor 3 points ago +3 / -0

And Dodd Frank act.

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skyhawk 41 points ago +41 / -0

It’s a very good thing, read the article they explain it in clear terms that the SEC cannot be judge, jury, and executioner.

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CommiesAreFags 15 points ago +16 / -1

Good news. I got halfway through the article but got the idea it’s good. The SEC can’t use internal courts.

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Pleepleus 13 points ago +13 / -0

Ask Rekieta tonight.

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charlesthehammer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Rakets.

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StraightWhiteCisMale 9 points ago +9 / -0

I’m not sure, but I’m thinking it may be that this same logic would apply across the whole swamp of leftist-run bureaucracies.

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J6_Patriot 7 points ago +7 / -0

IRS.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

nope

IRS is part of the Department of the Treasury

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RolandDelacroix 122 points ago +122 / -0

Now do the ATF

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frankenglock 37 points ago +37 / -0

Dude, I can only upvote you once!

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yudsfpbc 10 points ago +11 / -1

Yep it will disappear.

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Cantshadowbanthemall 11 points ago +11 / -0

Ironically the ATF almost was eliminated under Carter of all people

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bidensmissingbrain 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, Joe seems to be trying to be Carter x10 so maybe he can push it over the edge?

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CnnWillBlackmailYou 1 point ago +1 / -0

"almost"

He's still the worst, third only to Biden and Obama.

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N900mixalot 1 point ago +1 / -0

They don't "adjudicate" the same way the SEC does, but I agree with your idea that transparency and REAL oversight are needed for agencies that think they're above the law.

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Sarsen1776 105 points ago +106 / -1

This may actually be why the RoevWade leak happened! The Congress cannot delegate law-making authority to the Executive. Means no 3 letter agencies with regulatory power.

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IvotedforTrumptwice 38 points ago +38 / -0

Who would this include exactly? Please be gentle because I am already very erect.

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TornWonder 38 points ago +38 / -0

EPA, OSHA, SEC, ATF, CDC, IRS, and definitely more that I am missing.

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IvotedforTrumptwice 25 points ago +25 / -0

FDA?

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xxnamexx530 24 points ago +24 / -0

As well as FCC, FAA

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IvotedforTrumptwice 17 points ago +18 / -1

No no no that’s too much freedom.

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whataboob 11 points ago +11 / -0

I’m gonna do whatever I want!

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MastaJoda 3 points ago +3 / -0

Packs things, heads to the Wild West

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toxicmale13 8 points ago +8 / -0

FTC, DEA, TSA, NSA

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IvotedforTrumptwice 4 points ago +5 / -1

Also I said be gentle. Please it’s starting to hurt.

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bratt 8 points ago +8 / -0

If this is upheld by the Supreme Court, your erection may last longer than 4 years.

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MasklessMarvel 4 points ago +4 / -0

CDC does not make laws

IRS is department of the treasury

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flashersenpai 4 points ago +4 / -0

CDC does not make laws

no but they make declarations given the force of law like trying to cancel rent on private properties

this is the kind of semantic bs they use to make non-laws with criminal penalties

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +3 / -0

that CDC mandate exceeded their authority

Biden tried to use them to get around the Constitution

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N900mixalot 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not the declarations, it's the enforcement that are the problem but they are overseen by the tax courts so that's kind of their protection. The SEC isn't overseen by a specialty court like the IRS.

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ShrikeDeCil 6 points ago +6 / -0

Easier to say who it doesn't, almost.

Uh. I think NIST has been a pretty straight-and-narrow kind of place. And they're 'specifically enumerated'. So.

We're up to one place.

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MasklessMarvel 3 points ago +3 / -0

Central Intelligence Agency

Environment Protection Agency

Commodity Futures Trading Commission

Federal Election Commission

Federal Communications Commission

Federal Trade Commission

General Services Administration

National Archives and Records Administration

National Labor Relations Board

National Transportation Safety Board

Small Business Administration

Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)

United States Agency for International Development

United States Postal Service

Federal Energy Regulatory Commission

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dat_delicatessen 2 points ago +2 / -0

CIA

Rules

Lol

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deleted 20 points ago +20 / -0
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yudsfpbc 13 points ago +13 / -0

All of the TLAs.

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howardlong75 6 points ago +6 / -0

Like the WHO next week?

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Take_it_back 3 points ago +3 / -0

That is absolutely earth shaking in scope. Seems too good to be true. God. Can you imagine if they just pulled the plug on the administrative state? I think the deposed bureaucrats and they’re globohomo patrons would go on the offensive in a drastic way.

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JS_Mill 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wait, why does this relate to the leak?

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Taliesin 2 points ago +2 / -0

The reversal of Roe vs. Wade would be a strike against activist judges legislating from the bench, which is similar to the above judgment against unelected government agencies making up their own laws.

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SpinShaitan 50 points ago +50 / -0

This is good news. Very good indeed. How much shit will get overturned because of it might be amazing.

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Shayhawk 18 points ago +22 / -4

Nothing will come of it... welcome to the swamp.

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MasklessMarvel 4 points ago +4 / -0

get lost doomer

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south9 1 point ago +1 / -0

Get real bro

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Shayhawk -1 points ago +0 / -1

Its' not "dooming" its called "remembering the last few years" dipshit

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MasklessMarvel -1 points ago +1 / -2

it's called sitting on your ass and bitching instead of getting up and changing things

commie

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Shayhawk 2 points ago +2 / -0

And you are doing what exactly to "change things"?

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

i write to my various reps when they can resolve a problem

and I vote

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Shayhawk 1 point ago +1 / -0

As we all are so stop being a bitch to your fellow pedes.

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My_dick_screamed 40 points ago +41 / -1

SCOTUS fucked us once, they'll fuck us again

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Shayhawk 30 points ago +31 / -1

No standing.

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ThisTrainHasNoBrakes 11 points ago +11 / -0

In this case, that would be good because it would uphold the 5th circuit ruling.

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Aambrick 4 points ago +4 / -0

Which means they will do something.

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zippy2 2 points ago +3 / -1

They wont

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IvotedforTrumptwice 3 points ago +4 / -1

Good. I hope it stands with this court.

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deleted 5 points ago +5 / -0
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Jjones23 6 points ago +6 / -0

Laches

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zippy2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lahes

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Taliesin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lesbians

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BeardedNinjaPede 4 points ago +4 / -0

Moot

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Cantshadowbanthemall 1 point ago +1 / -0

Aka bend over

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

upholding the 1A, doing away with Roe V Wade, throwing down mandates...

you are a doomer and need to leave

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My_dick_screamed 0 points ago +1 / -1

Oh fuck off will you? Your blind faith in the system is what got us here

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MasklessMarvel -1 points ago +1 / -2

no, it was your lack of faith

you did not vote, contact your reps or other get involved in the political process

YOU sat back and let it happen

and they did not fuck us, they stood on established law and saved us from a disaster

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My_dick_screamed 0 points ago +1 / -1

Oh I didn't vote? News to me. I did leave voicemails for representatives. They don't give a fuck. Eat me

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

do me a favor and hang yourself if you're that pathetic

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Spicemustfiow 24 points ago +25 / -1

Now do FISA.

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Cantshadowbanthemall 8 points ago +8 / -0

SCOTUS is fisa

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Spicemustfiow 3 points ago +4 / -1

You’re not exactly wrong but it actually is a law itself. The court portion is just under Roberts purview.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

that is an act, not an agency

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Spicemustfiow 1 point ago +2 / -1

Go look up what the A in FISA stands for and come back and let me know.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you mean FISA court it's a US federal court

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Spicemustfiow 2 points ago +3 / -1

Edit: I read that backwards.

The point is this ruling suggests that the court is illegal because it’s exterior to the established system.

Likewise the FISA court is both external to the established system and lacks due process.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +2 / -2

The United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC, also called the FISA Court) is a U.S. federal court *established under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) to oversee requests for surveillance warrants against foreign spies inside the United States by federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies. Such requests are made most often by the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). *

FISA is not an agency

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MasklessMarvel -1 points ago +1 / -2

FISA court focuses solely on issuing surveillance warrants

swearing out a warrant requires names, who, what where and other info that could compromise an operation

that requires a secure quote and judges and other staff with security clearances

there is a need for it but it definitely needs to be brought under control

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Spicemustfiow -1 points ago +1 / -2

Thanks FBI.

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Sumarongi 22 points ago +22 / -0

‘end of administrative state’

good news but seems a bit hyperbolic.

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Hunter77 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yeah, if this doesn't go beyond the SEC, I have a hard time seeing how it benefits, or even impacts, 99% of Americans.

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Cyer6 4 points ago +4 / -0

Appellate court rulings cover the entire nation. A lawyerly type would have to review the ruling to see how focused it is but the fact it came out of the 5th would mean it can cover a lot of ground.

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UnitedStatesofSmash 4 points ago +4 / -0

Even if it doesn't immediately apply, it sets a precedent which can be referred to in suits against all the other regulatory bodies.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

it would set a precedent that would take away administrative agencies abilities to use their own courts

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RINOhunt 0 points ago +1 / -1

You don't do sketchy stuff on wall street bro? Ever? Not even gifting yachts for insider knowledge or buying NFTs and then selling them for pennies on the dollar to reduce your tax liability? How do you even afford hooker's and blow, let alone judges, if you're following all the rules all the time?

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tedandlisa123 20 points ago +20 / -0

I worked at an SEC compliance outfit that provided “consulting services” to banks, hedge funds, and private equity. The partners were all former SEC officers. It was corrupt as shit. Legalized bribery and extortion. These cases should be decided by federal judges with lifetime tenure on the federal payroll, not by “SEC judges,” who are looking to leave the SEC and cash out on “consulting services” on the cases they are deciding. Trump knows the mob and this is white collar mobbery. No wonder why the deep state wanted him out so bad. This corrupt shit goes on across the spectrum from banking, to intelligence, military contracting, etc. The deep state runs the federal government, not the other way around. You can always vote and change out the politicians, but the deep state bureaucrats remain in place across administrations. We need to get back to our basic constitutional roots. The entire administrative state is a giant festering oozing sore that is fueling inflation and subverting democracy.

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TexasFox 14 points ago +14 / -0

This is the shot heard around the swamp. Going to watch this closely since this ruling just pulled the teeth out of damn near every govt agency... ATF, SEC, FAA, BLM, EPA... all if them. If they have to rely on the the justice department and true federal courts then their grift of preying on small unsuspecting people is over.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

Central Intelligence Agency

Environment Protection Agency

Commodity Futures Trading Commission

Federal Election Commission

Federal Communications Commission

Federal Trade Commission

General Services Administration

National Archives and Records Administration

National Labor Relations Board

National Transportation Safety Board

Small Business Administration

Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)

United States Agency for International Development

United States Postal Service

Federal Energy Regulatory Commission

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Drewniverse 13 points ago +13 / -0

In a dissenting opinion, Judge Eugene Davis disagreed, saying the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings, and that the SEC was enforcing laws and statutes in the public interest.

Davis also said Congress did not overreach in empowering the SEC to enforce action through its administrative proceedings.

Time to research this Davis fella.

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Jimboslice73 2 points ago +2 / -0

William Eugene Davis, known as W. Eugene Davis, is a Senior United States Circuit Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. His chambers are in New Orleans, Louisiana. Wikipedia Born: August 18, 1936 (age 85 years), Winfield, AL Party: Republican Party Previous office: Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit (1983–2016)

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

big surprise the dissenter grew up in the progressive era

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

he is a Reagan appointee

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Mythnutbill 1 point ago +1 / -0

Isn't it actually in the Constitution that all court proceedings have the right to a trial by jury?

Granted, they'll do everything in their power to get you to waive that right because the system has gotten so beaureacratically stupid. But the right is still there, despite their protestations to the contrary.

AFAIK, the only cases that don't have a right to trial by jury are civil cases between people, in which case the court functions as more of an arbitrator. Anything to do with laws or statutes, however, should have the ability to try by jury...

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TheRealJaredHolt 11 points ago +14 / -3

Scotus wont. Jumanji Brown ensures that. They knew this case was happening.

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DoctorShlomo 5 points ago +5 / -0

She's not seated on the court yet.

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tdtech9 1 point ago +1 / -0

Presumably she will be seated in time to help pick next year's docket.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

she is not that important as a junior justice on a court of 9

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Snack_Destroyer 11 points ago +11 / -0

So does this mean that the three letter agencies that regulate shit won't be able to arbitrarily invent crimes to prosecute us for? I always thought it was bullshit that people we don't get to vote for get to essentially write their own laws.

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MasklessMarvel 2 points ago +2 / -0

they can still do that for now but they will have to prosecute in the judicial system instead of administrative law court

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Tune-A-Fish 9 points ago +9 / -0

I have zero faith in the Supreme Court besides Clarence Thomas. Chuck Shummer will call the Democrat base to protest in front of the SC Justice homes and threaten them and their family and they will cave to the mob. This country is a third world banana republic and the UniParty wants it that way. Fucking traitors and criminals who hate this country.

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Cyer6 9 points ago +9 / -0

The 5th Circuit's rulings are pretty solid and rarely get overturned. It's possible the SCOTUS doesn't even take the case.

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stampcrabsalesman 3 points ago +3 / -0

Different cases.

The ruling comes two days after the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to a hear a separate but similar case involving the SEC’s administrative powers and in-house judges in a suit brought by Texas accountant Michelle Cochran.

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Tune-A-Fish 1 point ago +1 / -0

All it takes is a little criticism and Roberts is crying in the corner sucking his thumb. I hope he doesn't take anymore cases that he will write a "no standing" decision. The SC has become a joke and with their equity hire, the MSM loving Sotomayor, the Deep State sleepers in Barret and Kavanaugh, the Supreme Court is dead to most Americans just like the Democrats wanted. America operates like a third world banana republic.

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ronnietherocket 5 points ago +5 / -0

TBH, people won't get worked up over this case. Abortion they will as they have had it drilled into their heads that "aBoRtIoN iS iMpOrTaNt fOr WomEn's h341th".

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Tune-A-Fish 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is funny how almost all people remain silent on abortion, it is almost like addressing the root causes of poverty (welfare, single parent households) that is never addressed so when there is no discourse it never gets solved. Women are the worst and the women who have experienced the miracle of birth are the most hard core about it but when it comes to vaccinations they turn into Covid Nazi's and they want to kill for their right to kill babies and kill people who refuse to give up their bodies to the clot shots. They want it both ways.

lll

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TerribleParable 9 points ago +9 / -0

Do tax court next

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I_Love_45-70_Gov 9 points ago +9 / -0

Big if huge?

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Sumarongi 13 points ago +14 / -1

Amy Shumer if big?

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MNFootFlyer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Most underrated comment so far in my scroll

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utfanx2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Amy Shumer if Rosie O'Donnell.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Rosie O'Donnell if Moby Dick

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the__rev 2 points ago +2 / -0

Michelle Obama's dick if Moby Dick.

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Boinger1988 2 points ago +2 / -0

J.B. Prizker eating Stacy Abrahams huge

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Moebius 7 points ago +7 / -0

Well...Congress has outsourced everything they do except collect campaign donations and get elected.

They don't write laws anymore and rely totally on NGO's to 'advise them'...

The first they they do after winning their election is to prepare for the next election.

Everything else is just Bullshit...

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FerrisMueller 7 points ago +7 / -0

Here are the two jokers who started these kangaroo courts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Dodd

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank

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CrustyTubeSock29 9 points ago +9 / -0

Nipples protruding, very disrespectful

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MemeWarsVet 7 points ago +7 / -0

Narrator: In the end, the decision was not upheld by SCOTUS.

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IvotedforTrumptwice 3 points ago +4 / -1

They don’t even have to see it though.

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GrayManNumber333 7 points ago +7 / -0

Where does administrative proceeding appear in the constitution?

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PMSocks 5 points ago +5 / -0

just before gun control and after abortion rights

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

nowhere

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Microaggresor 7 points ago +8 / -1

This is a big deal.

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J6_Patriot 6 points ago +6 / -0

Now do the IRS.

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tl3c0 6 points ago +6 / -0

The most retarted statement by a lawyer/judge of all time “ in a dissenting opinion, Judge Eugene Davis disagreed, saying the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings and that the SEC was enforcing laws and statutes in the public interest.” public good? Who gets to determine that? Subjective and not evidence based….what a retard…..

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weimerica 2 points ago +2 / -0

saying the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings

Look, look! Another liberal shitbag inventing a standard out of thin-air with no grounding in the Constitution.

We need to introduce a check-and-balance on unconstitutional legislation, executive action, and judicial ruling. Let their blood water the Tree of Liberty to remind all their role in society.

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Concerned__Citizen 6 points ago +7 / -1

Interesting... If extended into the DMV, it would mean the administrative boards don't have the right to be judge and prosecutor in suspending your drivers license for 30 days under a DUI.

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yudsfpbc 7 points ago +7 / -0

DMV is state.

Fedgov != state

But such a decision could destroy admin states too.

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Concerned__Citizen 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's precisely what I'm speaking of - rulings don't affect just federal law. In all the trials that I've internet arm-chair prosecuted, it's my professional opinion that states would be in scope of this.

The DMVs admin board, in my state, is the administrator of licensing, and judge, and executioner of administrative hearings.

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NonyaDB 6 points ago +6 / -0

When you think about it for a minute, this is literally the end of the SEC.
It removes any and all enforcement power from them.
The SEC would be forced to take every single case to the FBI and have them prosecute it in court.
Guess how the SEC is funded?
Fees and fines.

As currently structured, the SEC must go through the federal appropriations process for its annual operating budget, even though it annually collects registration fees that exceed its appropriations.

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

the SEC can still do SEC stuff but they have to justify it in regular court

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Mythnutbill 2 points ago +2 / -0

He's saying that they won't have the funding to do it.
Of course, they'll just petition for a greater apportionment of funds from congress and get that rubber stamped in the next mega bill as fiscal responsibility is a term that hasn't been seen in those halls except as a laughable and very not serious talking point from either side when convenient.

I'm only aware of a handful of Congress critters that preach getting the spending under control and the most well known are the Paul's.

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MasklessMarvel 0 points ago +1 / -1

they can use the money they save by not having to run their own judicial system

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JESUSJUGS 6 points ago +16 / -10

It violates the 7th penis.

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Sumarongi 6 points ago +7 / -1

Don’t know why the downvotes, this is hilarious

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sully 4 points ago +5 / -1

The only comment here that made me have a chuckle.

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Sumarongi 2 points ago +3 / -1

I’m still cracking up

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J6_Patriot 3 points ago +4 / -1

Faggots are here all the time. Just like when we were on Reddit.

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JESUSJUGS 2 points ago +4 / -2

That’s ok. I knew it would get downvotes. People are prudes! Kek

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

It should be put into the penile system

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Retardloserimsogay 5 points ago +5 / -0

Now this is actually a huge happening!!!

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July_1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hello. Based department….

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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SwampKraken 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kek!!

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Cantshadowbanthemall 4 points ago +4 / -0

Now do the ATF

Also going to point out the SEC is largely the most neutral of all the deep state

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patiohimself 4 points ago +5 / -1

Can someone type that title in english

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spinometer 3 points ago +3 / -0

can this be real?

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GreyKnight 3 points ago +3 / -0

That dissenting judge has got to go, his minority opinion is weak AF.

Basically “not it doesn’t”

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witchism11 3 points ago +3 / -0

Dodd-Frank - We were warned.

And is that fat, grotesque, cock-sucking faggot Barney Frank still alive?

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Jaunty_Haul 3 points ago +3 / -0

Is the "administrative state" the Overton-window-approved term for the deep state?

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MickMoss1 5 points ago +5 / -0

For lowercase-d deep state, yes.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

it's a little more specific to administrative agencies

deep state would include all the branches of government, maybe both state/fed too

statists may hate admins but still simp for the rest of it as "necessary"

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45ForEver2024 3 points ago +3 / -0

Woot no FFA or FDA. let America be FREE.

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IvotedforTrumptwice 4 points ago +4 / -0

FFA Future Farmers of America?

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MasklessMarvel 1 point ago +1 / -0

i thought the same thing

you can sure tell folks that lived in the midwest

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thisisatestof2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Noe do EPA and BLM. No more insane fuel economy regs and drilling restrictions.

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based_steakums 3 points ago +3 / -0

"This will be the end of the administrative state if upheld by SCOTUS." Do not fucking tease me.

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yurimodin 3 points ago +3 / -0

FUCKING HELL YES

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Nuke-da-Whales 3 points ago +3 / -0

HA…DC fag Hill writers can’t take comment!

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lazercrazy3 2 points ago +2 / -0

Since when do laws matter.

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Retardloserimsogay 2 points ago +2 / -0

END THE FED!!!! LETS GOOOO!!!!

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TooTrick 2 points ago +2 / -0

“act as both prosecutor and judge.” Sylvester Stallone as Judge Dredd "I am the law" is all I thought about throughout the rest of the article

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CoupeFL 2 points ago +2 / -0

Non-delegation doctrine is necessary to save the Republic.

This is a good step

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SaltyAv8er 2 points ago +2 / -0

So dumb guy terms it means an illegally created agency cant illegally make laws and have their own courts and judges uphold those illegal laws? Since it was all based on an illegally created organization? I'm kinda retarded and asking for a friend.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

i don't think they ruled on the legality of the agency itself, just the enforcement and adjudications being in-house

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Iranhasnukes 2 points ago +2 / -0

In a dissenting opinion, Judge Eugene Davis disagreed, saying the right to a jury trial did not pertain to administrative proceedings and that the SEC was enforcing laws and statutes in the public interest.

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Iranhasnukes 1 point ago +1 / -0

These parasites , like the jab, are slaves to their own government - they have no concept of government corruption, the system is their church

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TeaPartySon 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bigger than Roe V Wade and it will float by under the Radar. Imagine the PANIC that nobody will know....ULTRAMAGADELICIOUS

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MakeFreedomRing 2 points ago +2 / -0

How are those SEC investigators gonna get jobs at those big corporations now after spending 4 years working for the government?

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barwhack 2 points ago +2 / -0

So. Two more years, now...

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Jmricht 2 points ago +2 / -0

SEC has internal judges? Wow.