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JohnCocktoasten 316 points ago +316 / -0

Sorry America, that money already went to Ukraine.

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Steady3 108 points ago +108 / -0

They'll just print more for the next Ukraine "aid package."

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Brellin 107 points ago +119 / -12

Call me crazy but I'm glad this was voted down. We don't need MORE government spending, that's what got us into this fucking mess in the first place. That they also sent 40 billion to launder in the Ukraine is ALSO bad, but let's not be angry about the government choosing to NOT spend more of our cash on something that wasn't going to help anyone anyway. The businesses that actually needed that sort of help are already out of business, the only ones left are those that managed to make it through the lockdowns in the first place, with most lockdowns having been over for months now (if not a year+ in some places)

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DroolingElmo 57 points ago +59 / -2

Agreed, we don't need bailouts we need competency that returns us to energy independence and safety

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Halo-One 43 points ago +45 / -2

I totally agree with this but if they are going to spend that money I'd much rather it go to help Americans than be laundered through Ukraine and kicked back to our corrupt government officials and their cohorts.

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Trumpdup4prez 29 points ago +29 / -0

That’s exactly what’s happening here. This is a huge heist. It’s not an aid package. It’s theft of our treasury. All of this money will go back to congressmen, lobbiests and their cronies.

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Anti-Uniparty 8 points ago +8 / -0

Exactly!! They are writing their own checks!

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Testamernt 9 points ago +9 / -0

What if I told you that it would be laundered back to the corrupt government anyway even if it went to "help Americans"?

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Clandestiny 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then you would have spoken truth.

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Vox_Dobad 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's essentially the position I've taken with the student loan thing. Sure, anyone who signs on the line for the loan should pay it back. But if they want to waste a trillion bucks on bailouts or Green New Deal bullshit, the people would be better served in the short and long term using that money to cancel the loan debt.

Again, it's bullshit to do it at all, even considering the fact that student loans are predatory as fuck. It's drilled into soft mushy heads all through K-12 that they need to go to college to succeed. But a contract is a contract.

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Yawnz13 1 point ago +2 / -1

Student loans even then are only for people too lazy or mentally insufficient to make decent grades.

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Clandestiny 1 point ago +1 / -0

Make apprenticeship great again.

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Vox_Dobad 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nah, that isn't true. I graduated high school with a 3.9 GPA and scored pretty high on both the ACT and SAT. I got all of like $1500 in scholarship money

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Hobama 7 points ago +7 / -0

We need public executions for treason

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Clandestiny 1 point ago +1 / -0

And fun ones! Like trebuchet into a field full of running wood chippers shaped like a bullseye.

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Commiessuck 4 points ago +4 / -0

We just need the govt to get the hell out of the way. Their overbearing regulations are like a boot on the neck of our businesses and people.

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RaberContour 11 points ago +11 / -0

I'd agree only if we didn't send 40 billion to corrupt scum in Ukraine to prolong and escalate war

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schiff_for_brains 6 points ago +15 / -9

This. If the restaurant didn't make it, it was in dire straights to begin with. The ones that are left might be in a weakened state, but they're still here.

Plus, restaurants are constantly opening and closing. It won't take long to get new successful restaurants if the market wants to have them.

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LordKuroTheGreat 31 points ago +31 / -0

I'd normally agree, but a restaurant could have been doing just fine and dandy and be barely clutching to life support now, all thanks to direct attacks from the government. No one factors being shut down by the government for over a year into their budget. Of course, I think it would be much more effective if the money was forcibly taken from the politicians themselves, their overseas bank accounts, exorbinate retirement funds, coastal mansions, ect, than hot off the printing press. The victims deserve restitution, and the criminals need to pay personally.

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BidenLikesMiners 5 points ago +5 / -0

and dont forget the shitlib states that were forcing vacc mandates on them too... the effect of no stimulus for small business and tricking them into firing their own workers for an ineffective vaccine was a 1-2 that the dems planned so the only stores left are Amazon and DemocratMart. And the other big businesses that vote dem.

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Clandestiny 1 point ago +1 / -0

Amen!

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Ghostof_PatrickHenry 25 points ago +25 / -0

This is actually very wrong. Local/state governments basically made it illegal to operate many types of businesses from a storefront. Many businesses found ways to work remotely or offer retail online, but restaurants obviously cannot. While take-out service can be attempted, it was common to lose critical staff, who were no longer getting tipped out the way they were when people were dining in. Once you lose those key pieces, as a restaurant-owner, it becomes very difficult to replace them-- especially in this labor market.

My best friend operates the most popular dining/entertainment establishment in our town. Crazy popular. 3-hour waits (people waited, and drank), $100K+ days (with live bands), satisfied his 3-year pro-forma in less than 12 months. (millions in investment, paid back)

He barely made it through COVID. Did some pretty crazy take-out deals to drive business. Kept his entire staff on, with benefits. (40+ people) Another few months, and I think he would have been forced to close for good.

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SnowflakeJuice 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah, but it wasn't just restaurants. many businesses got destroyed, "think of any business that services offices), but Restaurants got the bailout because of their union

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Ghostof_PatrickHenry 2 points ago +2 / -0

All small businesses got the bailout. (Mine included)

It was peanuts for restaurants that were averaging well over $100K in gross revenue a week (pre-COVID). Businesses like mine (architecture) were still able to continue operating at 75%(-ish) pre-COVID billing. We still got the bailout, because our staff all were forced to work from home. (“By order of the [faggot] governor.”)

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SnowflakeJuice 1 point ago +1 / -0

There were a number of different programs, PPP, EIDL, and the Restaurant Revitalization Fund.

All businesses got PPP, which was peanuts for most, relative to their losses, EIDL was a loan program, those loans are about to come due and it is going to get very ugly, as most businesses were not able to recover to pre-covid levels, and now they got loan payments on top of it.

The Restaurant Restoration Fund was by far the most generous program, providing up to $10 million per business per location, and $5 million per location. It was ONLY available to restaurants.

Under this program, a restaurant that was shut down completely for a year, and was doing $100k per week prior would have hit the jackpot. they would have gotten a check equal to the ENTIRE Revenue of the previous year, even though they had almost none of the expenses (no cost of food, staff, etc), virtually the entire check minus rent would have been profit.

In addition, the restaurants were also eligible for the PPP and EIDL programs, (and my state had other restaurant specific programs).

Where restaurants got screwed, was is if they don't report their income and operated as a cash business, which I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for.

Some other businesses did very well, as you only had to show revenue was down for 3 months to get the PPP. I have relatives who are in the construction industry who had 3 slow months in the beginning of the pandemic, but overall did very well (construction was booming in much of the country), and they got PPP.

My business, that services offices who were mostly closed, got completely destroyed, not only that, but we are in the IT field and carried a lot of inventory that only has a 3 year lifecycle, and is now obsolete. So aside for not having business, we had a massive write off on inventory, something that none of the programs even addressed.

Like every government program, there were winners and losers

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Clandestiny 2 points ago +2 / -0

My business was absolutely gutted. They shut down 100% of my customers for a year and a half. 70% of them went bankrupt and my leased equipment was largely unrecoverable. It'll take another 600K to get going again and I don't have the pockets for that, so I have to shed massive equity to get it going again if I want to go that route.

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DinosaurAlert 19 points ago +19 / -0

This. If the restaurant didn't make it, it was in dire straights to begin with.

It isn't capitalism or a free market when the government steps in and say that restaurant A must close, but restaurant B can stay open.

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BidenLikesMiners 3 points ago +3 / -0

^THIS. covid was the governments attempt at forcing socialism. and it WORKED.

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conservativefrank 6 points ago +7 / -1

Agreed. This gives us more money to send to other countries. After all, Americans should be slaves to foreigners.

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Hobama 3 points ago +3 / -0

No. The government stepped in and mandated a bunch of bullshit that made it impossible to make profit. Thats bot the restaurant’s faults. Add in government caused inflation of food supplies and gas, in addition to bullshit laws artificially increasing worker compensations, would surely be enough to crush all but the most robust restaurant operations or large corporate ones.

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UnitedStatesofSmash 4 points ago +4 / -0

Honestly, it's not THAT they are spending money (they are doing that regardless, and I agree that they shouldn't), it's THAT they are sending it to places I don't give a shit about. IF they are going to spend money, it should be spent here (preferably not in the form of bailouts and gibs)

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Vox_Dobad 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's both, but the fact that they're sending it overseas is much more egregious

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SnowflakeJuice 2 points ago +2 / -0

The way these covid funds were allocated were compete bullshit. Restaurants specifically were awarded A FULL YEARS WORTH OF REVENUE, if they were able to show some loss from Covid.

I know some restaurants that did OK during Covid, but their numbers were slightly down, and they were able to get a full years revenue, on top of what they earned, not to mention the fact that their expenses were down as well.

Restaurants were not the only business impacted, but they have a strong union, so they got an insane deal, well at least some of them did. The program was insanely generous to those who applied early, but ran out of funds before others could get in on it

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InterestingIke 4 points ago +4 / -0

We borrowed it from China this time.. even worse

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unicornpoop 6 points ago +7 / -1

So we can secede, and those loans / national debt are no longer ours. We create a new constitutional america with our own monetary system and no fed or global banks.

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unicornpoop 5 points ago +5 / -0

lol What asshat downvoted my dream?

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BarneyFranksNipples 3 points ago +3 / -0

The dream

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SnowflakeJuice 3 points ago +3 / -0

I know it is popular to say that, and was true at one point, but China stopped buying U.S> bonds about 5 years ago.

We are now primarily "borrowing from the Fed" which is why inflation has gone insane

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WOMP_WOMP_FAGGOTZ 14 points ago +16 / -2

And Israel yearly.

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foobarbb 9 points ago +10 / -1

i'd rather it go to neither. even if it went to "businesses" i'd only consider it if it allowed insane levels of scrutiny. anytime there are programs like this , huge portions of it go to line the pockets of criminals and frauds.

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JohnCocktoasten 9 points ago +9 / -0

100% agree. But the "Ukraine first" vs "America first" contrast is striking.

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FliesTheFlag 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly, dont agree with these free gibs but if they gonna do it keep that shit here int he states.

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Hanging_Chad 7 points ago +7 / -0

Why did Biden want this CoViD package separated from the Ukraine package? Did he know the CoViD stuff would prevent his Ukraine kickback package from going through?

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RaberContour 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah probably, money laundering I'd most important for Congress

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Kek_The_World 2 points ago +2 / -0

Came to say this. Couldn’t agree more!!!!

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AlcoholicRetard 155 points ago +156 / -1

We’re not voting our way out of this.

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ExileOnRedditStreet 26 points ago +26 / -0

Right you are.

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BidenLikesMiners 3 points ago +3 / -0

THank you president hillary.

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julianleroux 12 points ago +12 / -0

Parallel economy never looked so profitable.

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ThomasJackson 11 points ago +11 / -0

so I just discovered my homestead, if I ever find the right one, can produce 250,000 bucks annually tax free.

and if I do a lot of bartering without paperwork with my neighbors...

alternative economy seems doable.

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julianleroux 9 points ago +9 / -0

and if I do a lot of bartering without paperwork with my neighbors...

Not just physical neighbors, but virtual/metaphorical neighbors too.

What matters in either case is that there's MUTUAL TRUST. The globohomo governments and corporations NEED you to distrust/dislike your fellow men, because they NEED you to rely on them as commercial, financial and legal middlemen.

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FuckReddit4545 12 points ago +12 / -0

Let's make word of mouth and a firm handshake great again.

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Cthaat 8 points ago +8 / -0

I've been doing this my whole life here in rural America. Feels good man

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Clandestiny 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've still been fucked over on a deal by rednecks who got in over their heads, but it's been mostly good times.

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Cthaat 2 points ago +2 / -0

We've all been fucked over worse by jews

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who said firm cockshaking???? -barry

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EvJohn 1 point ago +1 / -0

On requiring more than a handshake:

"My word is good...isn't yours?"

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War_Hamster 9 points ago +9 / -0

The Soviets didn't vote their way out of the USSR either, but I'd rather not have to focus on surviving for 74 years of communist rule.

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South_Florida_Guy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nope

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TakingBackCA 2 points ago +23 / -21

We have to. The other option is not possible because of modern western civilization and decadence. It’s going to be a slow decline over generations where people will just keep accepting less and less.

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foreach 47 points ago +47 / -0

Feels like it's happening pretty quick to me...

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Donger-Lord2 16 points ago +16 / -0

Once we go through all of our options, everyone will see thy there is only one left, war.

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FreeFlorida 8 points ago +8 / -0

French revolution

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DroolingElmo 4 points ago +4 / -0

Let them eat bugs

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papa_newguineapig 15 points ago +15 / -0

Came here to say this. We're accelerating at a rate never seen before. It's funny hearing people say, I'm feel bad for my kids, imagine what they're going to have... bitch, we ain't making it to your kids adult years. This show is ending long before that.

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NavyGuy 13 points ago +14 / -1

What happens when we are bo longer allowed to have even fake elections?

I'm not being a smart ass. I really want to know if there is a peaceful way out of this.

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sully 37 points ago +38 / -1

I really want to know if there is a peaceful way out of this.

No country that I know of escaped or overturned communism peacefully.

We were given three boxes and the first two have been proven to not work. The third box is the only option and very many people have a real hard time coming to terms with it.

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VoidWanderer 19 points ago +20 / -1

The soviet union "escaped" communism after decades when it fell apart and was no longer able to even function at the low standards of communism.

That is what everyone demanding a "non-violent" way out of this wants. Decades of miserable living conditions, lack of food, constantly watching over your shoulder and needing to self censor yourself so you aren't kidnapped and executed in the middle of the night.

Yes, that is what all you cucks demanding a "peaceful" resolution to this want. Misery. You are just as terrible as the leftists pushing us towards the future you're salivating over because how dare anyone be willing to use the oldest defense against tyranny.

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SpezIsANazisCumRag 16 points ago +19 / -3

We’re not voting our way out of this.

No country that I know of escaped or overturned communism peacefully.

This is what I have been saying since Nov 2020.

All of our problems will end overnight if even a small percentage of MAGA conservatives decide to take out the tyrannical commies controlling our country. All of those commies and their enforcers in the FBI etc are just people with names, addresses and families and it doesn't require some big organized militia to take those people out, it just requires many brave independent Patriots each with a list of just a few of those names and their addresses. There are Patriots all across this country and if each one just takes out one single commie nearest them, all of our problems quickly go away. It's why we have the Second Amendment and it's the strategy I believe the Founders themselves would tell us to use if we could ask them.

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MightyEighth 5 points ago +5 / -0

Alright I have a legitimate question, since I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately.

So let’s say we successfully topple the commies and take back the country at the fed. What do we do next? How do we address economic issues, or deal with the inevitable fallout from other countries and keep this from devolving into further aggressors. I’m looking for some insight here as I believe a hot civil war isn’t as simple as: Topple the corrupt regime and everything gets better quickly.

I think it’s hardship either way and this generation was destined to experience hardship either route.

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SpezIsANazisCumRag 6 points ago +7 / -1

Well there are still going to be BASED MAGA politicians like MTG left. Vacancies in the government will be filled by Patriots temporarily while special elections are held and the remaining people in government from the old regime will hopefully fall in line. There are 2 things we must keep in mind.

  1. There will be some amount of chaos or fallout. There will continue to be economic and immigration issues until We The People have had time to install and train a new government but not doing anything and letting the country continue to crumble will cause more harm. No country that has ever recovered from communism has done so without hardship and hard work. That's just the reality.

  2. We The People must be involved in every aspect of our country's restoration to the extent necessary to make sure history does not repeat itself. This means we cannot simply eliminate all the Democrats and RINO's in government, elect a new crop of politicians to replace them and hope for the best. We The People must make sure we do more than that do address the fundamental deficiencies in the system that allowed communism to take over in the first place. For example we need more amendments to the Constitution to enshrine Rights not explicitly stated already such as Right to Privacy, Right to Medical Autonomy, Right to Secure Borders, Right to a proper Gold-backed currency etc. Just about everything the Democrat Uniparty has done in the last two decades is a violation of existing Constitutional amendments but shows us that the Constitution needs additional framework to address the many modern abuses the Founders could not have foreseen and to add in additional checks and balances to remedy future tyranny at the State and Federal levels. Beyond the Constitution, We The People also need to address the issue with crony capitalism and how corporations are able to become such huge monopolies and then use their power and wealth to lobby and manipulated elected official and government agencies for their own benefit. The Electoral system needs work. Perhaps we should be issuing electors at the county level rather then the state level. The FED needs to be abolished and the influence of international banking institutions need to be addressed. The education system, and the way we educate our children needs to be addressed. The penal system and laws that are applied or enforced selectively needs to be addressed. Taxation needs to be addressed. Things like "lawfare" needs to be addressed. I could go on and on about the many many systemic issues that need to be addressed in this country and We The People need to be the stewards of the solutions to these issues so our politicians in the future actually know very clearly what We The People want and expect from them and our government. In a perfect country with a truly limited government, the government and those that serve in it will have very little that is actually needed of them and they are called to legislate selectively and rarely.

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HebronHammer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Plz Write a book sir. I enjoyed your insights and that mentality can change the nation.

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MightyEighth 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you for the thought out response. This is something I’ve thought a lot about lately because regardless of how we feel about global forces, my main concern with a civil war has always been countries like China or Russia who would capitalize on it to encroach on our land and try and seize for themselves or even wipe us out while we fight.

Also trying to understand how that process would work as I believe that some here don’t fully understand just how long this would drag out. This isn’t a quick fix and the countries better off, this is YEARS of suffering from all of us. I just want to make sure everyone understands that cost before hand.

Also to address the political aspect, there would need to be a tribunal run by we the people, and every current politician should get the boot regardless of if they appear to be MAGA or not, we cannot build a new way until the old one is completely gone, down to the last nail.

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BoberFett 4 points ago +4 / -0

Decentralize power. Eliminate the federal government entirely. Return the power to the people where it belongs.

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Jeffersonian_Man 4 points ago +5 / -1

I don't have an answer for you. But I believe hardship towards a positive goal is better than hardship leading to no good.

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MightyEighth 2 points ago +2 / -0

I completely agree, I just think people need to understand that if we start war, we won’t be the generation that benefits from its fruits, I truly believe this generation was destined to suffer and we cannot avoid that, but hopefully to creat a better future.

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papa_newguineapig 4 points ago +5 / -1

Allot of people don't want to hear this, but this is the way.

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NavyGuy 4 points ago +5 / -1

Shame. I was really hoping to spare my children the horrors of war. Good thing I've been teaching them to shoot since they could walk.

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OKRancher 7 points ago +8 / -1

I had an answer but it wasn’t peaceful. I don’t see an option with no bloodshed.

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OKRancher 4 points ago +5 / -1

It’s possible. It will just be different than it has in the past. The battlefield has changed. I’ve seen stuff go downhill for decades. It won’t be easy and damn sure won’t be pretty but it’s possible as long as something is done soon.

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YouNeedVPN 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lol. They don't actually bother to count votes. They just say what the result is.

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ChelseaHubbell 85 points ago +86 / -1

40 to Ukraine ok, 48 to Americans not ok. got it.

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IowanMaga 36 points ago +36 / -0

Literally, LITERALLY! Fuck, both stickied!

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p1smo 32 points ago +32 / -0

No offense, but neither should get any money. Look at how Covid relief funds were misappropriated for all kinds of fraudulent shit. Throwing more money at these problems aren't going to make them going away, and are only exacerbating the issue further.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

Disagree. When the leftie fags shut down small businesses, they should have been responsible for rent, and some of the monthly costs.

That these faggots are sending 44b to ukr to suck zelenskis cockles and not a single penny for small american streets, they should all be deported to be part of Ukrs national guard.

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Double-Y_Chromo 6 points ago +7 / -1

In other words: "fuck America/Americans" as usual.

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Brobold [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

40 for this bill, total has to be over 100 by now.

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DiscoverAFire 6 points ago +6 / -0

Total is 55B or so. They try to get 5 or 6 headlines out of each chunk of aid so it sounds like more.

That said, $55B is a shitton

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HebronHammer 1 point ago +1 / -0

55 billion is the total amount that they are willing to divulge to the public....

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CommunismIsForLosers 68 points ago +68 / -0

We. Don't. Have. Any. Money. STOP!

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Steady3 27 points ago +27 / -0

Printer go brrrrrrrrrrr

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Cyer6 5 points ago +5 / -0

No printer needed. They just go onto their fed banking app and wire it over.

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Juanye 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yeah to complain about inflation and this in the same breath is asinine. Gotta stop writing rubber checks.

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Chelsea_hubbell 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yeah, I’m glad they didn’t. Restaurants suck, we stopped going. Service terrible, food terrible, prices too high. Fuckum, close up.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

corrupt commie dems

NO

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SaddleTramp 0 points ago +1 / -1

Fuck you! go vote your woes away pleb

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Colonel_Chestbridge 34 points ago +37 / -3

Scum. Practically every single one of them. If you are voting for these Republican traitors because it’s “better than a democrat” you are part of the problem.

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ThirteenPercenter 3 points ago +6 / -3

Lol so now voti g at all will help?

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Colonel_Chestbridge 7 points ago +8 / -1

Voting isn’t really rigged across the entire country, it’s mostly just in key cities, so yes it probably will depending on where you are. Local gov also has a lot more power than people realize and it’s much hard to cheat those elections.

Even RINOs that cheat can’t cheat without at least a decent amount of real votes.

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SaddleTramp 1 point ago +1 / -0

Voting wont heal the wound, the culture is nearly damaged to the point of no return and I dont see statists like you trying to repair it.

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Colonel_Chestbridge 4 points ago +4 / -0

How do you think it got this way? Decades of voting for shitty politicians who use their power to incentivize degenerate behavior. Voting can begin to heal the wound, at least at the local level, which has more power than you think. Some areas may be a lost cause but it’s really not that many. No reason to give up on voting altogether because some shithole cities are full of degenerates.

What do you suggest will “fix the culture?”

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TrannyClausSliceDice 1 point ago +7 / -6

Yes fuck them but also not voting is absolutely fucking retarded.

Imagine if every house, senate, city council, mayor, governor, sheriff etc went to democrats the last 15 years. We’d be much worse than we are now.

Stop being idiotic. “You’re part of the problem”. Lol. Hush. Understood?

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Colonel_Chestbridge 3 points ago +7 / -4

Yes it would be much worse than where we are now. But I’d rather we hit rock bottom in my lifetime when we have a chance to fix it than vote for RINOs who will do nothing but pass off the problem to my children.

Congratulations, you voted for this $40b.

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TrannyClausSliceDice 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is makes no sense

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Colonel_Chestbridge 1 point ago +1 / -0

What doesn’t make sense about it? Democrats and RINOs will both inevitably lead to the total destruction of the US. RINOs will just make it take slightly longer, passing the problems down to the next generation. If you voted for a RINO because it’s “better than a democrat”, then you got exactly what you voted for with this $40b handout. A RINO voting correctly on some fucking bathroom bill yet voting with the uniparty the other 99% of the time means absolutely nothing in the long run.

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SaddleTramp 3 points ago +4 / -1

Not voting is accelerationism

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

dems want us not voting, then they cant get caught cheating

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Crappydatum 31 points ago +31 / -0

Those restaurants need to move to Ukraine, obviously

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DiscoBot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Now you're thinking outside the box!

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ModernKnight 28 points ago +29 / -1

No aid packages for anyone. No gibs, no exceptions.

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WiseHonkler 5 points ago +5 / -0

This. Not sure why people are getting pissy about it. Rand shouted it down and was absolutely right.

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Lurker404 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not sure why people are getting pissy about it.

Because some corrupt shithole on the other side of the planet just got 40 billion.

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WiseHonkler 1 point ago +1 / -0

Pissy about us not spending $48 billion for gibs (not Ukraine fraud)

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AmannamedRJ 23 points ago +23 / -0

I don't want either. I want these slimy motherfuckers to stop printing and devaluing our money.

It's shitty that they sent it to Ukraine instead of us, and shows their obvious double standard, but we need to bear the flag of no more exess spending. And take the rage at their clear disregard for us to them directly.

We need to take to the streets. These slimy politicians even ones we think are allies won't help us.

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Cyer6 5 points ago +5 / -0

The country is built on a strong foundation. All the natural resources we need along with smart people with invaluable skills. Like we saw in Trump's 4 years, it just has to be unleashed and set free. What's being done to us is intentional and I see the only way to stop is take full control of key states. Our republic of independent free states is our only saving grace.

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stratocaster_patriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Biden admitted it. "From the bottom up and the middle OUT." Nobody asked him what the heck that means but I took at it face value.

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HotDogWithMustard 19 points ago +19 / -0

Money for me but not for thee

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Shayhawk 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well sure, the money headed to Ukraine will find its way back into our politicians pockets.

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HebronHammer 1 point ago +1 / -0

If it ever left

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Nothingisoveryet 15 points ago +17 / -2

I'm sorry, I don't give a flying fuck. No more handouts. Small business can go fuck themselves, too. No more fucking handouts. To Ukraine, to businesses, to illegal immigrants, nobody, nothing. The same small businesses that took the last aid package and put a sign in the window saying "no mask no food" or "vaccination required", go fuck yourselves. Taxpayer money should only go to, or be used on, taxpayers.

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geekesmind 6 points ago +8 / -2

I agree

They wouldn't need handouts if they fought back against the scamdemic

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stratocaster_patriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Same people who's business model had me paying their employees salaries directly through mandatory tipping. High time for a new business model.

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logan34 2 points ago +2 / -0

The last PP loans mostly went to some unemployed losers and dork artists in liberal shitholes who called themselves independent contractors etc.... enough fucking handouts and constantly printing money! The fucking government is NOT your bank or nanny that gives you an allowance when you're too stupid to get by.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +2 / -1

Small business can go fuck themselves, too.

Ok, lib. I can tell you work hourly.

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Nothingisoveryet 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sick burn, dude. I bet you orgasmed when you downvoted, fuck off back to Reddit.

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Patriots123 12 points ago +12 / -0

My deductible to see a doctor is $9000. Just saying.

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NavyGuy 5 points ago +5 / -0

Mine is 16.

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stratocaster_patriot 1 point ago +2 / -1

My girlfriend has never been able to afford health care and cannot now. She has never had coverage in her life but since Obama she pays $2000 in penalties every year. $2000 deductible for no healthcare. Surprised Joe hasn't made it "$9000, er I mean 9 million b-b-billion, b-b-billion, uh, $9000."

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Ligersrule1 8 points ago +8 / -0

Wasn't eliminating the penalty for not purchasing health care one of the first things President Trump did once he was sworn in?

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stratocaster_patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes and Biden put it right back in place in his first week and now she goes back to paying the penalty. She isn't paying it for fun.

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Katfish29 11 points ago +11 / -0

When the “Representative” portion of “Representative Republic” dies, we are left with oligarchy.

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VoidWanderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's been dead. People are only slowly realizing that fact and are confused on what to do.

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TheMemeSpiceMustFlow 9 points ago +9 / -0

They should be voting no. No reason to print any money ever unless someone invades us. Just stop printing money.

The people who voted yes for Ukraine money should be voted out.

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1776take2 9 points ago +10 / -1

What’s the record for number of people hung in a single day?

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ShartMaster 3 points ago +3 / -0

There's stl time to go for a high score!

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8bit_mixtape 8 points ago +10 / -2

Fuck off with the need to vote out when YOU KNOW how voting does jack shit. There are way better solutions.

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Lowersidecustoms 8 points ago +8 / -0

At what point does the US default? The next 6 generations couldn’t pay off this debt, we’re getting ready to tell the bankers fuck off like every other empire that couldn’t pay their debt?

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stratocaster_patriot 2 points ago +3 / -1

Millennials claim Boomers saddled the future with debt but all sit there watching this happen and then dumped their stimulus into crypto and then retired. Pay my college debt!!! Save Ukraine!!! GenX says screw both of those greedy filthy generations lol.

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Lowersidecustoms 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly, more than 2/3rds of the National debt has been added in my lifetime.

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VoidWanderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, because that would be rude to our "greatest ally" and cuckservatives are anything but rude while they're leeched from.

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Formerlurker92 7 points ago +7 / -0

Beyond Roman levels of corruption

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NavyGuy 6 points ago +6 / -0

Roman's had rookie number corruption.

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cnn_can_dox_my_balls 6 points ago +6 / -0

TO BE

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

CNN MAY DOX YOUR BALLS, IDIOT

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pullofthemoon 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's a midwest colloquialism, I still do it when I'm talking to other Hoosiers. 'The floor needs swept, the groceries need put away, and the dog needs fed.'

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cnn_can_dox_my_balls 3 points ago +3 / -0

It is absolutely maddening to the rest of us.

Or maybe it’s just me. It just feels like a weird AI glitch.

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pullofthemoon 2 points ago +2 / -0

I admit it does lead to a double-take.

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airborne3502 6 points ago +6 / -0

Chuck Schumer was for it and Rand Paul was against it.

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OKRancher 6 points ago +6 / -0

I’m against it too. It just shows the priorities of the people that “represent” us.

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nonrate 5 points ago +5 / -0

A corrupt foreign country with no allegiance to the US, with no return on investment, easily gets 40 billion of our tax dollars. Our own citizens can't even get the same amount from our own treasury, which we funded, that will yield a return on the investment. This is what we call corruption folks. We've lost control of our government. May god help us...

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WinterSoldier82 5 points ago +5 / -0

No bail outs for US who got them their salaries but they favor Big Corporations instead. Korrupt Kommie Klowns. 🤡🤡🤡

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Truglow 4 points ago +4 / -0

Screw everyone of these privileged jerks. Maybe it’s time to go full Sri Lanka on these turncoats.

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Mildad 4 points ago +4 / -0

I can’t wait for that day to come

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chewsoap 4 points ago +4 / -0

“voted”

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TaxDollarsHardAtWork 4 points ago +4 / -0

Voted out? They should be tried for treason and sedition.

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MythArcana 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is what commie regimes do, to the letter. Meanwhile, Pelosi installs a BAR in the House and uses our tax dollars to get drunk at "work".

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ThomasJackson 4 points ago +4 / -0

your country is being looted before the collapse.

This is common with all countries that collapse.

They get looted before, during and after.

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blueeyephoto 3 points ago +3 / -0

$40bil to Ukraine....

$0 to Americans

it's like a broken record

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unred 3 points ago +3 / -0

Vote them out, confiscate all their assets, put them to work at McDonald's. See how long until they kill themselves. I'd give them about two years.

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Light_HIV_Effect 3 points ago +3 / -0

No crumbs for you

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SaltyKrakenBalls 3 points ago +3 / -0

The dollar is as worthless the Biden administration.

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thisisatestof2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Maybe, just maybe if we didn’t listen to government bureaucrats like Democrat governors and Dr. Fauci, businesses we need billions in aid because the government try to destroy them because they were scared.

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Eyedaed 3 points ago +3 / -0

That dumb fucking drake meme works perfectly for this situation.

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RogueLeaderX 3 points ago +3 / -0

On the same day they gave billions to Ukraine.

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julianleroux 3 points ago +3 / -0

PARALLEL CURRENCY

PARALLEL ECONOMY

PARALLEL SOCIETY

(Look up "mutual credit" and "barter economy")

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shadypollster 3 points ago +3 / -0

Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky blasted the package before the voting.

“Democrats need to wake up and realize that dumping more money in the economy is simply pouring $5-a-gallon gas RB00 on an already out-of-control fire,” Paul said in a floor speech.

They need to get voted out eh?

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FART_IN_THE_TOILET 3 points ago +3 / -0

They’ve paid their hush money to Ukraine.

You have nothing of value to them ∴ you get nothing in return.

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AbrahamLincoln 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't want them approving this, or any, "aid package".

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rcstl 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yet they voted for 40 large for the ukes.

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overblod 2 points ago +2 / -0

Vote does not matter anymore, elections are a sham

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Caesah 2 points ago +2 / -0

Honestly, fuck restaurants, we don't need a 8 on every street corner staffed by immigrants and serving overpriced garbage. Learn to cook and society will improve.

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johnfist1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Voted out? Hell no. We need Elon to donate some rockets, load all these fuckers up, and launch them into the sun. If we still can't afford that, I would settle for a slow deteriorating earth orbit.

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Skywise 2 points ago +2 / -0

So they found the money for Ukraine... but not for US!

pond scum.

all of them.

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JustACitizenWarrior 2 points ago +2 / -0

let us not be tricked by the "if the ukraine can have it, so should Americans".

NEITHER should have it.

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MexBrodie73 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hangings would be acceptable!

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halfstep 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can our government just stop fucking printing money for any reason? You can't solve problems you explicitly created by throwing money at it. All I see in any of these government spending programs is graft, waste, and a way to make your cronies money.