Mel Gibson, yes. Andrew Torba is an egotistical blowhard who loves to talk about how much better things would be if America were an authoritarian Christian theocracy. He wants to live in Iran with crosses instead of crescents.
Even in the bible most of the kings were bad. No human can have that much unchecked power and it not corrupt them. Monarchy is the dumbest form of government.
It's funny how many people on this site will say "don't tread on me" and "get off my lawn" when it comes to things like vaccine mandates, and then will cry "govern me harder, daddy!" when it comes to outlawing things they don't approve of.
Dipshits like yourself are no better than the people who say that real communism has never been tried. You think you'd be living a utopian existence in your dream despotic state, when you'd really be toiling away in a forced labor camp.
They indeed were, and I don’t want to hear about the Diest none sense either. They regularly prayed and worshipped God. Which you should be doing if you’re weren’t a faggot.
you don't want to hear about the "Deist nonsense" even though several of the Founders adhered to Deist thought that many religions share similar positive aspects that can lead to Godly understanding and have a basic shared objective? You don't want to hear about it even though it's true because you need a fantasy to support your desire for a theocracy even though the US was never meant to be one.
A Christian theocracy would be far better (more truthful, more honest, more promoting the sanctity of the 10 commandments) than whatever corrupt Banana Republic we're living under right now!
Of course it would, because noone would ever be allowed to dissent, because of earthly judgement on them in the form of a heavy hand. (That actually goes against Christian principle.)
One of the reasons I became a Trump supporter was because he wasn't an obnoxious Bible-thumper.
I'm looking for somebody who will put America first and keep the government out of my shit, I'm not looking for a puritan who will scold me for drinking booze, smoking weed, and listening to heavy metal.
Personally I believe that Christianity was used as a way to tame and finally cage all non-jews, but especially the Germanic people. Our ancestors used to sacrifice their enemies to trees and to swamps, and the entire known world was absolutely fucking terrified of us. We sacked Rome.
It has been. A lot of what people believe about Christianity is false and it was created just to weaken them. Especially the "Chosen people" Myth. I can't believe people actually fall for that con job.
That is laughable, nihilistic prattle. God's chosen people were chosen to show the world what happens when a society turns away from God. The Jews turned away from God over and over again, and were scattered, enslaved, and decimated. When they returned to God he gathered them into a nation and they became strong.
What is "laughable, nihilistic prattle, that I exposed the bullshit lie of "Chosen people" in the manner it is used to manipulate modern Christians to support Israel's government and policies both politically and financially no matter what? If you buy into this and actually can't see that it's political propaganda and the Bible is full of political propaganda, you're an idiot.
No, it's that you seem to misunderstand what the term Chosen People actually means. It only means that God decided to use that specific people to show the world what happens when you turn away from Him. You might not have noticed, but the Bible doesn't exactly cast the chosen people in a good light. It's a warts and all story, that culminates in the perfect sacrifice of Jesus.
They're the same thing...who do you think Allah is? Allah is typically refered to by the Koran and Muslims as the "Father of Deceit", which is why Muslims use deceitful tactics like Taqiyya to be like their "god".
Who do we know from the Bible that's called the "Father of Lies"? SATAN!
I've run into a few I guess, but I find most Christians don't desire a theocracy either - for the simple reason that we disagree on theology, and of course, people with power cannot be trusted. God's plan moves forward, irrespective of what we think we're doing to contribute or obstruct.
I take contention with any ideology unilaterally dominating culture, but I have no problem stating that Christianity is grossly underrepresented, and we could use some good news on a broad scale.
Maybe not dominate culture, but definitely steer it toward more based moral values, honestly, courage, and the appreciation of free will.
I wasn't a fan of the Falwell years, but this is a million times worse.
Christian puritans do not believe in free will. If they did they wouldn't try to jail everyone they disagreed with. It's a shame because Christianity is the true religion but it's been corrupted and Subverted.
I'm old enough to remember the Satanic Panic of the 80s and 90s, and it's depressing that so many people on this site lately sound exactly like the "everything that offends my religious beliefs should be outlawed!" zealots of those years.
Man, I'm glad to know there are others that remember that. And I'm saying this from somebody that does follow the word of God.
I remember back then when the Moralistic Busy Bodies needed to Censor Beavis and Butthead and the Simpsons because Gasp! "Little Timmy could learn a curse word and not see traditional family values! REEEEEEEEEE"
I'll be DAMNED if I'm just replacing one group of Moral Busy bodies with another.
I just dislike authoritarians in general. I don't want to live under a Christian theocracy any more than I want to live under communism.
Individual liberty is one of the core principals America was founded on, and it created probably the most successful, prosperous, and free nation in the history of mankind. But there are some short-sighted and downright stupid people here who think that the best way to "win" against authoritarian collectivists is with their own form of authoritarian collectivism. A tyrant is still a tyrant, it doesn't matter if they have a portrait of Karl Marx in their office or a portrait of Andrew Torba.
I've said above somewhere, that'll be DAMNED if I'm going to replace one set of Moral Busy bodies with another. Because that's ultimately what these people are. Moral Busy Bodies that are upset that they aren't in power enforcing their will onto people to follow "Their one true faith."
And Yeah, this Country was founded upon individual Liberty. Why do you think the Founding fathers didn't institute a National religion, even though all of the Framers were in some part, all religious. Because they realized that Religion is just another tool that Authoritarians use to try to control people (Look at other European countries at the time, what do you see?)
They built this country, not because of Christian values, but inspite of it. When they reference God, they aren't Reference a Christian one, or an Islamic one, or even some other type of God, they're refering to the God that YOU follow, or even the lack thereof. Because you're been given these Inalieable rights, to believe whatever you want to believe, to say whatever you want to say, and to defend yourself if anybody comes after your speech or your beliefs.
There was NO other Westernized Country that had this amount of freedom. And these people think that taking that away is going to fix the problem? Look at the amount of young people heading up the MAGA movement. They're not people spouting off God, they aren't the Westbourough Baptist church. They're people who've grown up seeing Christian Authoritarianism in the 80s and 90s, and see the Left doing the SAME THING.
You're not wrong at all. You have to remember, many on this site are young and dumb, and don't remember the Falwell years.
That, or were yesterday's equivalent of woke conformists, because the words of charlatans made them feel good.
That said, as one with a love of theology and the teachings of Christ, I have a difficult time comparing the two equally. I think that what is occurring now is worse than back then. Though, I hate totalitarianism in all of its forms.
We need to build our own infrastructure and stop paying for theirs. That means stop paying taxes as well, a lot of these woke companies just rely on gubermint subsidies and grants now. Some boomer faggots on here still watching muh sportsball, we know you do, don't lie.
Taking media and government seems to have worked for the muslims...they outnumber the Chinese when tallied in their own nations around the world and practically took over most of Europe to boot...
It's not going to happen. They can create more "alternative" media, but the doors to the big MSM establishments are closed to all but the woke who have gone through the indoctrination process at approved indoctrination centers, and have been for years.
As long as Normie Q. American cares at all about the MSM, we will have a problem
As long as talk about god and religious bullshit doesn't saturate the system or delude it with religious doctirne then I'm all down for that, since Christian's at least have the sense to be reasonable and responsible members of society, despite being religious.
You won't be getting any hate from me there, but a big NOPE. Our priority as believers should be to rid our own proverbial houses of the cancer that is churchianity and return to Biblical Christianity.
Here are several sins punishable by Stoning, listed in the Bible. You seem to want to cherry pick your "biblical" lifestyle to include some things but not others. Then you'll tell me "it's in the Bible" to defend something I disagree with, but ignore other things that are in the Bible, while claiming we should run the country based on Biblical teachings. Pretty inconsistent.
Your post is so unintelligible it's difficult to know where to start with explaining how uninformed you are. Verses on temporal law are not the same as teachings from moral or natural law. The Bible says, "eye for an eye" but that is descriptive not proscriptive. It's setting the historical context of the story.
You're completely disingenuous and resorting to ad hom because you can't debate me with logic. I've explained what I'm talking about numerous times now in clear English, yet you keep obfuscating and throwing insults as an avoidance tactic. Just GFY, I have no more time for your childish tricks.
You don't need to be a traditional or ultra conservative or even a Christian at all to have morals or values. China as a Communist state that banned and oppressed Christianity still had cultural values of monogamy and frowned on pre-marital sex. NO, THAT DOESN'T MEAN I"M SUPPORTING COMMUNISM OR THE CCP before any dumbass throws that strawman in there to muddy the issue and hijack.
Good thing that only the moral aspects and not the ceremonial aspects of Old Testament still apply to Christians.
Since you are a self-proclaimed secularist I am going to go ahead and assume you have no idea what 'churchianity' is nor what Biblical Christianity is either.
If you are truly interested in what I believe and not just casting stones for internet points, have a quick read. This refers to what I would call 'churchianity' as
'Cultural Christianity'.
There is one point I take issue with in their definition of Biblical Christianity:
4) The sixty-six books of the Bible are God’s Word, inspired, inerrant, and sufficient for living a godly life.
'Inerrant'-I believe the original texts were indeed inspired and inerrant. I do not however believe for a second that the many TRANSLATIONS are inerrant. Therefore when reading a passage from any translation, I do not take the English translation at face value.
It doesn't really matter, cultural vs Biblical because both are based on different levels of false information, much of it intentionally false to mislead people.
Much like with anything, Moderation is more the key. What caused the latest wave in wokeism, was the pendulum going too far in one direction. Replacing Wokeism with Christianity isn't going to fix the problem.
OK, explain to me how within the last 30 years of promoting "family values" that we had in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. You saw the rise of the Counter Culture in the 80s being shit going against those values. (I.E Punk Rock, The Simpsons, and the WWF)
It's because eventually people get tired of being scolded to by the Moralistic Busy Bodies. The same Busy Bodies that the left is using right now.
People didn’t just "get tired" of family values. There was a multi-generation war waged against the family as the foundational unit of our society that demoralized much of Gen X and nearly all of the Millenials.
And all those counter-cultures were just the sheeple of their time trying to be special like everyone else. They were created by corporations to make smooth-brains buy new product. It's the kind of crap people fall for when they reject Truth for a hollowed out, meaningless existence.
That's one of the most whitewashed viewpoints I've ever read. Gen X was "demoralized" by their boomer forebears and as a result gravitated into the open arms of counterculture; not the other way around. Counterculture was an outlet (and still is).
The weakening of the family unit was assisted GREATLY by the moralistic busy bodies the other guy is talking about. Corporations definitely created a lot of it downstream as they realized the capital potential, but the generational shift around the silents and the boomers seems to be the real locus of the weakening of the family unit.
The boomers demoralized Gen X and the Millnials by embracing the values of the sexual revolution, and ignoring their kids. They didn't pass on our Christian patrimony, and lacking any moral education droves of kids since then fell for whatever nonsense the secular culture fed them.
Imagine still believing the "counter-culture" wasn't just a way to manipulate young people to become good little consumers!
That's very closed-minded, and I say that as a very devout Catholic. Most practicing "Christians", whatever denomination, are the nicest people you will ever meet.
Honestly, some of the meanest, pettiest people I've ever met were Buddhists. Seems crazy, but it's true. They must have been fake virtue signalers and not real Buddhists.
^ Real talk right here - I’ve worked with a number of people drawn to Buddhism, and they’ve all been a complete mental and moral wreck once you get to know them. All broken and running from something.
Christ can redeem, guide, and heal if one seeks Him in earnest.
There it is. Just like I said, "Christianity" isn't even enough for OP, it has to be HIS brand of Christianity. This is where it all goes downhill, that slippery slope to oppression and dictatorship and genocide.
Is said Orthodox of Latin Catholicism (not the new stuff). There’s a massive theological difference. But yeah I’ll take that aaaaand absolutely Protestantism (what America mostly is) absolutely no it’s gross and full of degeneracy
What is right is Morals, and how do you get that, by being so openly free speech and free expression that you throw any idea into the Public square.
I've said it above, The reason the Wokies are using tools to censor us today, is because we built those tools in the 50s, 60s, and 70s to censor those opinions the Moralistic Busy Bodies didn't like.
The zealots can't help themselves. They lose generations of progress in one lifetime and every time they gain an inch they set themselves back another mile.
But that's just the thing. Rightous moralism is what LED to the Wokism.
People here may disagree, but when you have an entire generation where you're being told "This activity you're doing is going to SEND YOU TO HELL" For an entire fucking generation, yeah you're going to push back, and might even do a little trolling to see these people seethe.
Why do you think so many people love trolling the Modern woke crowd? Because they Cope and Seethe just like the Religious Right used to do watching Beevis and Butthead and the Simpsons back when it used to be good.
I know the comparison is lost on non-wrestling fans but hes literally playing Eric Bischoff's character from the 90s almost exactly with a little televangelist thrown in.
Yeah, you can always tell who’s GenX and who’s a millennial or zoomer in these conversations.
Those of us who lived through the satanic panic never want to go through that again. Even games like POGs were considered “satanic” because they “encouraged gambling.”
I’m so glad those fucking days are over. Now if we can just get rid of the current leftist bullshit too. Fuck all authoritarians.
When you're told that Playing DnD is going to "Call the Devil into your soul" or you Play GTA and you get with a Hooker and take your money back, and the Feminist Screams at you. You know you're doing something right.
Wait till you find out the kids now drink an alt drug called kratom in lounges. You will be seething and dilating. Close down the lounges! Back to the mosq.. church!
The fact that you're downvoted kills all my hope for the country. It's becoming more and more clear what's going to happen, when we win back power the Christians are going to push it too far and the Communists are going to come back full force and then we'll have our Revelations for real.
Nobody wants to be preached to.
Honestly yeah. I've come to that releazation spending my time on this site.
We'll get like Maybe 10 years of the 90s culture back, where you could be offensive about everything. Then we'll start seeing the Moral Busy bodies telling us what we can't say or do.
Just like how the Wokies today are doing. They're quite similar in a lot of respects.
Christians are making powerful alternative and independent media
Mel Gibson, yes. Andrew Torba is an egotistical blowhard who loves to talk about how much better things would be if America were an authoritarian Christian theocracy. He wants to live in Iran with crosses instead of crescents.
Did you know I would prefer a Christian monarchy?
Even in the bible most of the kings were bad. No human can have that much unchecked power and it not corrupt them. Monarchy is the dumbest form of government.
https://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0
This is the best argument about monarchy.
You can decapitate a corrupt monarch. That check doesn't exist in a corrupt republic of satanic pedo groomers
I didn’t say give lots of power
Jesus is King!
Strangely, Mel Brooks singing " The Inquisition " just started playing in my head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUMkcBctE7c
So Saudi Arabia with corrupt royalty that pays lip service to Jesus instead of Allah?
Knowing American tradcucks they won't be worshipping Jesus.
No. I said Christian monarch
America was formed to get out from under the Crown and the Church. You're as insane as a Communist.
Oh no!
Wherever would i get access to degenerate filth to satisfy my deviance?
It's funny how many people on this site will say "don't tread on me" and "get off my lawn" when it comes to things like vaccine mandates, and then will cry "govern me harder, daddy!" when it comes to outlawing things they don't approve of.
Dipshits like yourself are no better than the people who say that real communism has never been tried. You think you'd be living a utopian existence in your dream despotic state, when you'd really be toiling away in a forced labor camp.
Strawman argument against lolbertarians. They stand for nothing.
I hate lolberts
Found the degenerate
Found the 4chan tradcon neckbeard who thinks that Jews and degeneracy are the reason he's never had a girlfriend.
Jews and degeneracy are why your current girlfriend used to have a wang, my friend.
So, you're saying America was founded by Degenerates?? The Founders never wanted a theocracy and a big portion of them weren't even Christians.
They indeed were, and I don’t want to hear about the Diest none sense either. They regularly prayed and worshipped God. Which you should be doing if you’re weren’t a faggot.
you don't want to hear about the "Deist nonsense" even though several of the Founders adhered to Deist thought that many religions share similar positive aspects that can lead to Godly understanding and have a basic shared objective? You don't want to hear about it even though it's true because you need a fantasy to support your desire for a theocracy even though the US was never meant to be one.
Yes, America absolutely founded by degenerates
Created an entire scenario but okay
Your mom’s dresser drawer is usually where I find it.
You been breaking in to sniff her panties and leaving your fur tail butt plugs in there again?
Well at least we can mandate more male genital mutilation. Christians get off to that.
Found the uncut commie
Weird strawman
And you’re saying that like it’s a bad thing?
No, a lot of PDW hates me for it
Sounds awesome. I like the guy even more now
A Christian theocracy would be far better (more truthful, more honest, more promoting the sanctity of the 10 commandments) than whatever corrupt Banana Republic we're living under right now!
People like yourself are just as fucking retarded as the "real socialism has never been tried" morons.
Of course it would, because noone would ever be allowed to dissent, because of earthly judgement on them in the form of a heavy hand. (That actually goes against Christian principle.)
No hate from me.
As an agnostic and someone that doesn't like mainstream religion, I'm ok with it.
The Jews had their run, and whatever the fuck weirdo socialist commie crap that is in control now had its shot, bring on the change!
The Jews are still in control lol
“Lol”—finding humor where there isn’t is cowardice
There's ALWAYS humor in 🤡🌍
Go blow a goat Mohommad.
What?
Those are both Jews my friend
Wait is he saying that they are playing both sides while screaming racist at white people?
🙄
Why would you 'get hate' ya silly goose?
Soooo many “patriots” here are straight up secularists
They hate Torba because he speaks the truth.
A growing number of us hate Torba because he's a fake, catty, sleazy narcissist.
Torba whined and moaned like a bitch when he couldn't get Trump or Musk to jump aboard the Gab train.
eLoN cAn hAvE tWiTtEr
Lol, still laughing over that mega cope
Gab is more free speech than Truth Social.
One of the reasons I became a Trump supporter was because he wasn't an obnoxious Bible-thumper.
I'm looking for somebody who will put America first and keep the government out of my shit, I'm not looking for a puritan who will scold me for drinking booze, smoking weed, and listening to heavy metal.
America is not a country anymore. Accept that
You wanted Rick Santorum to win didn't you...
Over McCain? Yes.
Ew no.
Personally I believe that Christianity was used as a way to tame and finally cage all non-jews, but especially the Germanic people. Our ancestors used to sacrifice their enemies to trees and to swamps, and the entire known world was absolutely fucking terrified of us. We sacked Rome.
…huh?
That guy read Nietzche but didn't understand it.
It has been. A lot of what people believe about Christianity is false and it was created just to weaken them. Especially the "Chosen people" Myth. I can't believe people actually fall for that con job.
That is laughable, nihilistic prattle. God's chosen people were chosen to show the world what happens when a society turns away from God. The Jews turned away from God over and over again, and were scattered, enslaved, and decimated. When they returned to God he gathered them into a nation and they became strong.
What is "laughable, nihilistic prattle, that I exposed the bullshit lie of "Chosen people" in the manner it is used to manipulate modern Christians to support Israel's government and policies both politically and financially no matter what? If you buy into this and actually can't see that it's political propaganda and the Bible is full of political propaganda, you're an idiot.
No, it's that you seem to misunderstand what the term Chosen People actually means. It only means that God decided to use that specific people to show the world what happens when you turn away from Him. You might not have noticed, but the Bible doesn't exactly cast the chosen people in a good light. It's a warts and all story, that culminates in the perfect sacrifice of Jesus.
rather a christian than a satanist or mooslim.
"Satanist or a mooslem"
They're the same thing...who do you think Allah is? Allah is typically refered to by the Koran and Muslims as the "Father of Deceit", which is why Muslims use deceitful tactics like Taqiyya to be like their "god".
Who do we know from the Bible that's called the "Father of Lies"? SATAN!
I've run into a few I guess, but I find most Christians don't desire a theocracy either - for the simple reason that we disagree on theology, and of course, people with power cannot be trusted. God's plan moves forward, irrespective of what we think we're doing to contribute or obstruct.
Yes, and, Democrat is evil and republic destroys too much and acquires more power
Blind.
The New Testament is full of wisdom on how to treat other people.
And the old testament is full of what makes a sin a sin.
Silence! We cut kids and stone women here you secularist porn addict!
Some of them would if they could, especially the stoning part.
Secularists do love porn though
I take contention with any ideology unilaterally dominating culture, but I have no problem stating that Christianity is grossly underrepresented, and we could use some good news on a broad scale.
Maybe not dominate culture, but definitely steer it toward more based moral values, honestly, courage, and the appreciation of free will.
I wasn't a fan of the Falwell years, but this is a million times worse.
Christian puritans do not believe in free will. If they did they wouldn't try to jail everyone they disagreed with. It's a shame because Christianity is the true religion but it's been corrupted and Subverted.
Puritans are heretics.
I'm old enough to remember the Satanic Panic of the 80s and 90s, and it's depressing that so many people on this site lately sound exactly like the "everything that offends my religious beliefs should be outlawed!" zealots of those years.
Panic? That's rich considering our society is currently being run by a Satanic cult of faggot pedophiles.
Man, I'm glad to know there are others that remember that. And I'm saying this from somebody that does follow the word of God.
I remember back then when the Moralistic Busy Bodies needed to Censor Beavis and Butthead and the Simpsons because Gasp! "Little Timmy could learn a curse word and not see traditional family values! REEEEEEEEEE"
I'll be DAMNED if I'm just replacing one group of Moral Busy bodies with another.
I just dislike authoritarians in general. I don't want to live under a Christian theocracy any more than I want to live under communism.
Individual liberty is one of the core principals America was founded on, and it created probably the most successful, prosperous, and free nation in the history of mankind. But there are some short-sighted and downright stupid people here who think that the best way to "win" against authoritarian collectivists is with their own form of authoritarian collectivism. A tyrant is still a tyrant, it doesn't matter if they have a portrait of Karl Marx in their office or a portrait of Andrew Torba.
I've said above somewhere, that'll be DAMNED if I'm going to replace one set of Moral Busy bodies with another. Because that's ultimately what these people are. Moral Busy Bodies that are upset that they aren't in power enforcing their will onto people to follow "Their one true faith."
And Yeah, this Country was founded upon individual Liberty. Why do you think the Founding fathers didn't institute a National religion, even though all of the Framers were in some part, all religious. Because they realized that Religion is just another tool that Authoritarians use to try to control people (Look at other European countries at the time, what do you see?)
They built this country, not because of Christian values, but inspite of it. When they reference God, they aren't Reference a Christian one, or an Islamic one, or even some other type of God, they're refering to the God that YOU follow, or even the lack thereof. Because you're been given these Inalieable rights, to believe whatever you want to believe, to say whatever you want to say, and to defend yourself if anybody comes after your speech or your beliefs.
There was NO other Westernized Country that had this amount of freedom. And these people think that taking that away is going to fix the problem? Look at the amount of young people heading up the MAGA movement. They're not people spouting off God, they aren't the Westbourough Baptist church. They're people who've grown up seeing Christian Authoritarianism in the 80s and 90s, and see the Left doing the SAME THING.
You're not wrong at all. You have to remember, many on this site are young and dumb, and don't remember the Falwell years.
That, or were yesterday's equivalent of woke conformists, because the words of charlatans made them feel good.
That said, as one with a love of theology and the teachings of Christ, I have a difficult time comparing the two equally. I think that what is occurring now is worse than back then. Though, I hate totalitarianism in all of its forms.
…dude look around
Not from me fren, follower of Christ or not, we’ve seen the masses controlled by science. I would much rather they be controlled by god.
We need to build our own infrastructure and stop paying for theirs. That means stop paying taxes as well, a lot of these woke companies just rely on gubermint subsidies and grants now. Some boomer faggots on here still watching muh sportsball, we know you do, don't lie.
Torba-Desantis-Pressler. You decide the order cuz I can’t
Here’s my list:
DeSantis/Presler > explosive diarrhea > genital warts > Ebola > Congress > corporate media > Andrew Torba
Leftists always mention genitals
Taking media and government seems to have worked for the muslims...they outnumber the Chinese when tallied in their own nations around the world and practically took over most of Europe to boot...
America was better when it was a Christian country
It's not going to happen. They can create more "alternative" media, but the doors to the big MSM establishments are closed to all but the woke who have gone through the indoctrination process at approved indoctrination centers, and have been for years.
As long as Normie Q. American cares at all about the MSM, we will have a problem
Leave the cities, have three or more kids, homeschool them, and don’t send them to a university. Do this, and the future will be Christian.
He's right. I like the Red Pilled America podcast, they talk about the need of good-values story-tellers.
Amen, Torba! All our media need to be Christian controlled!
As long as talk about god and religious bullshit doesn't saturate the system or delude it with religious doctirne then I'm all down for that, since Christian's at least have the sense to be reasonable and responsible members of society, despite being religious.
It's the lack of religion that got us where we are, faggot ass.
We dont need any less of Christianity, we need way more of it! Teach it to all the kids and lead them on the path of righteousness!
That's what we haven't been doing for decades and are missing. We go back to this, then America's future will be very bright!
Fuck off you weak twat. You don't need a fucking religion to have iron clad morals and ethics.
Dude look around
Torba is Gab's Achilles heel.
EDIT: Just realized it's you again, Jibideen. Is your entire job to shill Gab here? Is Torba at least paying you?
No but I’ve got plenty of themes.
You won't be getting any hate from me there, but a big NOPE. Our priority as believers should be to rid our own proverbial houses of the cancer that is churchianity and return to Biblical Christianity.
Great, you want to stone people for "fornicating". lulz.
I don't think you are familiar with what Jesus said about stoning fornicators.
I'm aware of what the Bible says about "fornicators". You want to have a Biblical world without doing what is in the Bible? https://quranbible.wordpress.com/2007/05/11/old-testament-stoning-verses/
Here are several sins punishable by Stoning, listed in the Bible. You seem to want to cherry pick your "biblical" lifestyle to include some things but not others. Then you'll tell me "it's in the Bible" to defend something I disagree with, but ignore other things that are in the Bible, while claiming we should run the country based on Biblical teachings. Pretty inconsistent.
Your post is so unintelligible it's difficult to know where to start with explaining how uninformed you are. Verses on temporal law are not the same as teachings from moral or natural law. The Bible says, "eye for an eye" but that is descriptive not proscriptive. It's setting the historical context of the story.
You're completely disingenuous and resorting to ad hom because you can't debate me with logic. I've explained what I'm talking about numerous times now in clear English, yet you keep obfuscating and throwing insults as an avoidance tactic. Just GFY, I have no more time for your childish tricks.
You don't need to be a traditional or ultra conservative or even a Christian at all to have morals or values. China as a Communist state that banned and oppressed Christianity still had cultural values of monogamy and frowned on pre-marital sex. NO, THAT DOESN'T MEAN I"M SUPPORTING COMMUNISM OR THE CCP before any dumbass throws that strawman in there to muddy the issue and hijack.
<sigh> No, that is not what I meant AT ALL.
Good thing that only the moral aspects and not the ceremonial aspects of Old Testament still apply to Christians.
Since you are a self-proclaimed secularist I am going to go ahead and assume you have no idea what 'churchianity' is nor what Biblical Christianity is either.
If you are truly interested in what I believe and not just casting stones for internet points, have a quick read. This refers to what I would call 'churchianity' as 'Cultural Christianity'.
https://www.gotquestions.org/biblical-Christianity.html
There is one point I take issue with in their definition of Biblical Christianity: 4) The sixty-six books of the Bible are God’s Word, inspired, inerrant, and sufficient for living a godly life.
'Inerrant'-I believe the original texts were indeed inspired and inerrant. I do not however believe for a second that the many TRANSLATIONS are inerrant. Therefore when reading a passage from any translation, I do not take the English translation at face value.
It doesn't really matter, cultural vs Biblical because both are based on different levels of false information, much of it intentionally false to mislead people.
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Hard Disagree here.
Much like with anything, Moderation is more the key. What caused the latest wave in wokeism, was the pendulum going too far in one direction. Replacing Wokeism with Christianity isn't going to fix the problem.
Wrong. The loss of religion caused wokeism. People have to believe something. They either believe Truth or they believe anything that comes along.
OK, explain to me how within the last 30 years of promoting "family values" that we had in the 50s, 60s, and 70s. You saw the rise of the Counter Culture in the 80s being shit going against those values. (I.E Punk Rock, The Simpsons, and the WWF)
It's because eventually people get tired of being scolded to by the Moralistic Busy Bodies. The same Busy Bodies that the left is using right now.
People didn’t just "get tired" of family values. There was a multi-generation war waged against the family as the foundational unit of our society that demoralized much of Gen X and nearly all of the Millenials.
And all those counter-cultures were just the sheeple of their time trying to be special like everyone else. They were created by corporations to make smooth-brains buy new product. It's the kind of crap people fall for when they reject Truth for a hollowed out, meaningless existence.
That's one of the most whitewashed viewpoints I've ever read. Gen X was "demoralized" by their boomer forebears and as a result gravitated into the open arms of counterculture; not the other way around. Counterculture was an outlet (and still is).
The weakening of the family unit was assisted GREATLY by the moralistic busy bodies the other guy is talking about. Corporations definitely created a lot of it downstream as they realized the capital potential, but the generational shift around the silents and the boomers seems to be the real locus of the weakening of the family unit.
The boomers demoralized Gen X and the Millnials by embracing the values of the sexual revolution, and ignoring their kids. They didn't pass on our Christian patrimony, and lacking any moral education droves of kids since then fell for whatever nonsense the secular culture fed them.
Imagine still believing the "counter-culture" wasn't just a way to manipulate young people to become good little consumers!
🎯 please tell me you’re on ConPro
What's ConPro?
I not promoting “religion”. Nor “Christianity”. If it’s not Orthodox or Latin Mass for Catholics, I find it very suspect.
That's very closed-minded, and I say that as a very devout Catholic. Most practicing "Christians", whatever denomination, are the nicest people you will ever meet.
Lol no they're not.
Nice leads to tranny story hour and groomer teachers.
Yea no they aren't. The nicest people I've met were Buddhists.
Honestly, some of the meanest, pettiest people I've ever met were Buddhists. Seems crazy, but it's true. They must have been fake virtue signalers and not real Buddhists.
^ Real talk right here - I’ve worked with a number of people drawn to Buddhism, and they’ve all been a complete mental and moral wreck once you get to know them. All broken and running from something.
Christ can redeem, guide, and heal if one seeks Him in earnest.
Who don’t teach about receiving the Eucharist???
The Euchrist is blasphemus freaking heathen! Your father is the Devil!
Yeah I don’t care about close-minded. Don’t need rock guitars in church either
There it is. Just like I said, "Christianity" isn't even enough for OP, it has to be HIS brand of Christianity. This is where it all goes downhill, that slippery slope to oppression and dictatorship and genocide.
Is said Orthodox of Latin Catholicism (not the new stuff). There’s a massive theological difference. But yeah I’ll take that aaaaand absolutely Protestantism (what America mostly is) absolutely no it’s gross and full of degeneracy
You're confusing Protestantism with Catholicism. Catholocism is evil and demonic and full of degeneracy.
Protestantism is the true Christianity, the true God.
Who told you that?
Christianity is right, wokeism is wrong. That’s the difference. Not all things are equal.
Disagree.
What is right is Morals, and how do you get that, by being so openly free speech and free expression that you throw any idea into the Public square.
I've said it above, The reason the Wokies are using tools to censor us today, is because we built those tools in the 50s, 60s, and 70s to censor those opinions the Moralistic Busy Bodies didn't like.
What???
The zealots can't help themselves. They lose generations of progress in one lifetime and every time they gain an inch they set themselves back another mile.
But that's just the thing. Rightous moralism is what LED to the Wokism.
People here may disagree, but when you have an entire generation where you're being told "This activity you're doing is going to SEND YOU TO HELL" For an entire fucking generation, yeah you're going to push back, and might even do a little trolling to see these people seethe.
Why do you think so many people love trolling the Modern woke crowd? Because they Cope and Seethe just like the Religious Right used to do watching Beevis and Butthead and the Simpsons back when it used to be good.
Couldn't agree more.
Source: lived through it and watched Beavis and Butt-Head.
The thing about these Gab threads though is you're talking to a subset of like five people. They're here every day doing the same thing over and over.
That's fair, and honestly kind of true.
It's just a little frustrating seeing people Prop up Andrew Torbo not realizing he's just Christian Anita Sarkeesan/Jack Thompson
I know the comparison is lost on non-wrestling fans but hes literally playing Eric Bischoff's character from the 90s almost exactly with a little televangelist thrown in.
“Religious right in the American 90s”. Bro…. ☦️
You just crafted an entire scenario
It's called I lived through it.
Yeah, you can always tell who’s GenX and who’s a millennial or zoomer in these conversations.
Those of us who lived through the satanic panic never want to go through that again. Even games like POGs were considered “satanic” because they “encouraged gambling.”
I’m so glad those fucking days are over. Now if we can just get rid of the current leftist bullshit too. Fuck all authoritarians.
Yep, Fuck all Authoritarians.
When you're told that Playing DnD is going to "Call the Devil into your soul" or you Play GTA and you get with a Hooker and take your money back, and the Feminist Screams at you. You know you're doing something right.
…they’re turning kids into trans
Thank you for your input? Too shallow though
Wait till you find out the kids now drink an alt drug called kratom in lounges. You will be seething and dilating. Close down the lounges! Back to the mosq.. church!
I honestly have no idea
The fact that you're downvoted kills all my hope for the country. It's becoming more and more clear what's going to happen, when we win back power the Christians are going to push it too far and the Communists are going to come back full force and then we'll have our Revelations for real. Nobody wants to be preached to.
Honestly yeah. I've come to that releazation spending my time on this site.
We'll get like Maybe 10 years of the 90s culture back, where you could be offensive about everything. Then we'll start seeing the Moral Busy bodies telling us what we can't say or do.
Just like how the Wokies today are doing. They're quite similar in a lot of respects.
There is NO moderation when it comes to God. It's either all or nothing.
We need to go back to being a Christian nation, put God above everything else, and make God the focus of our children's education.