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TeeBP 172 points ago +175 / -3

Liberals losing their minds is their default state.

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dc53dc53 81 points ago +81 / -0

How does one lose what one never had in the first place?

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War_Hamster 14 points ago +14 / -0

Wait, I recognize this username. Seems I haven't seen it around here in awhile.

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War_Hamster 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm sure that's not remotely possible.

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RabidZoo 4 points ago +4 / -0

My 2 favorite .winners in one place at the same time! It's like a family reunion!

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RustySheckelford 5 points ago +5 / -0

Basedvirginian... woah woah woah, yeaheeeaahhh sure can't wait to meet, basedvirginian

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Junionthepipeline 4 points ago +4 / -0

Extension of childhood into adult age helps too

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War_Hamster 10 points ago +10 / -0

They had to have had some sort of cerebral ability or else the brainwashing wouldn't have been necessary or worked.

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GEOTUSMAGA 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sure, but like an iMac g3 - shitty processor, limited memory, and colored blue on the top.

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War_Hamster 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good analogy, and it supports my point that there was SOMETHING upstairs to begin with. It may not have been a quantum computer, but it could process a few ones and zeros.

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doodaddy 2 points ago +2 / -0

?! Isn't brainwashing basically like training a dog? Really!

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doug2 8 points ago +8 / -0

How do you kill that which has no life? cuts to nerd playing warcraft

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D3PL0R4BL3 3 points ago +3 / -0

I feel like this is a setup to a musical number about the Scarecrow and the Yellow Brick Road.

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av345 2 points ago +2 / -0

Boosters upon boosters

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Darkheartisland 8 points ago +9 / -1

There is a difference between a liberal and a communist.

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AmericaFloats 23 points ago +23 / -0

yeah, Time & Intensity, like coal and diamonds. just wait, add pressure.

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DrBJTester 8 points ago +8 / -0

Not anymore there isn't. There used to be a HUGE difference.

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ProphetOfKek 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah a giant shit diamond.

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AmericaFloats 7 points ago +7 / -0

we're in the shit mines now, randy.

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RabidZoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Get your shit-shovel and shit-pick ready Ran...today, we mine shit-diamonds.

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MarxhatedJews -1 points ago +1 / -2

Was pleasantly surprised to see my reaction to your comment just below.

I was going to use the analogy of a fart and a shart.

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that_sound 4 points ago +4 / -0

O MY GODDDDDDD!

WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK!

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Filthy_MALE 3 points ago +3 / -0

It’s fun to watch. The meltdown over the “kids in cages” meme was especially fun to fuck with them.

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DCSucks 3 points ago +3 / -0

Does this set precedent for the other three letter agencies? Like the FDA? ATF?

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Dereliction 2 points ago +2 / -0

It does indeed. An important one.

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ChuckedBeef 67 points ago +69 / -2

Fuck the SEC. Just another corrupt government entity.

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BasedNBearded 60 points ago +61 / -1

They ruled that congress CAN NOT delegate the powers that they give the SEC. Because they "regulate" shit that should be decided by the body closest to THE PEOPLE. This opens the door to take down ALL 3 letter agencies

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Cantshadowbanthemall 14 points ago +14 / -0

aTF bullshit white papers?

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TrumpoWon2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

ATF ain't going down unless a lot of puppies and doggos and human children and women are massacred in the process.

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NullifyAndSecede 14 points ago +14 / -0

Fuck the entire federal government.

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leakmouth 32 points ago +32 / -0

ELI 5 please

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sully 68 points ago +68 / -0

I believe the SEC tried to form their own judicial committees and "courts". The federal judge shot it down stating that the SEC and the Biden admin have no authority whatsoever to designate any three letter organization outside of the Department of Justice to form any sort of court system.

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AmericaFloats 40 points ago +40 / -0

The SCOTUS ruled in 2020 that the SEC could seize net profits and other assets to satisfy restitution after having proven a company has committed fraud.

the SEC wanted to take that and apply it internally, at-will, which is how Biden was planning to seize 'ill-begotten gains' from 'Russian Oligarchs' ie anyone he labeled as such.

Imagine the feds storming into Trump Tower and demanding they own it now, because they accuse Trump of being a Putin Pocket Protector again. That's really what the 5th circuit stopped, in addition to it happening to every one of us.

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Warpanda13 19 points ago +19 / -0

I think they were trying to crate their own courts internally to determine if fraud had been committed. They totally would not be biased at all. Lol.

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Sesquame 6 points ago +6 / -0

Make their own kangaroo court to "prove" fraud, as if what they already had wasn't good enough already.

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AmericaFloats 2 points ago +2 / -0

yes in a real life court vs. an SEC panel.

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AmericaFloats 5 points ago +5 / -0

and they SWEAR it's 6! lol

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residue69 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Dodd-Frank Act, passed after the 2008 financial crisis, empowered the SEC to bring cases before its own internal judges and institute penalties against defendants.

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residue69 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nipples protruding, very disrespectful!

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covok48 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ah so mass civil forfeiture?

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MastaJoda 7 points ago +7 / -0

FISA courts enter the chat

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SouthernParadise 3 points ago +3 / -0

Some of them are cheering saying that means ICE will be done away with. Is this true? I don’t speak lawyer so I’m a little lost.

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Junionthepipeline 3 points ago +3 / -0

IRS has them.dont expect this to hold

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residue69 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Dodd-Frank Act, passed after the 2008 financial crisis, empowered the SEC to bring cases before its own internal judges and institute penalties against defendants.

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SwitchbladeDrone 0 points ago +3 / -3

That doesn't sound right. There are all sorts of hearings conducted by administrative law judges at a bunch of agencies in Washington. The national Labor Relations Board is a big one. But I'm pretty sure OSHA and whole bunch more. The rationale is that there is just no way the federal courts could ever handle the volume of cases that need to be heard. Plus you'd end up with a high stature judge having to decide pretty mundane, stupid matters of little import.

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sully 5 points ago +5 / -0

Right but the SEC wanted judges, juries, the whole nine yards. They aren't the courts, nor should be. Agencies file complaints to the justice department and they are the ones who prosecute or take action.

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SwitchbladeDrone -3 points ago +1 / -4

The SEC has administrative law judges. It can only seek civil remedies- not criminal ones. There are no juries in administrative hearings and the SEC was not seeking them. That'd be retarded.

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sully 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hence this post.

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SwitchbladeDrone 2 points ago +3 / -1

Yes. But you have it backward. The SEC's administrative hearing process doesn't have juries. But they do have administrative judges, as do many agencies. The defendant complained (among other things) he was entitled to a jury trial.

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Thetigerpoppy 4 points ago +4 / -0

OSHA is an fn joke that should only be a handbook of basic normal safety standards that gets refered to in a court if an employer or contractor oversaw an environment that someone got hurt in or collapsed and used by the judges or jury to determine if normal saftey rules were followed or of the owner was responsible for damage caused.

We dont need an agency for that stuff, and definitely dont need what OSHA is.

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SwitchbladeDrone 3 points ago +3 / -0

I threw out the name of a random agency that holds administrative hearings. Not interested in debating the virtues of OSHA, I don't know that much about them.

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Thetigerpoppy 3 points ago +3 / -0

No I know and wasn't trying to challenge anything you said so much as express how utterly pointless OSHA currently and literally pushed rules during Covid like having to wear a mask even when grinding stone and just remove safety glasses when cutting to avoid them fogging up... our taxes pay for that advice and support then fining anyone who dare uses an electric saw without a gaurd on it and blew.

I'm getting hopeful we will genuinely see the DC unelected agencies finally start getting gutted to a constitutional point and I personally 2ant to see OSHA and the FDA at the top of the list

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ihatedemocrats 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not really directed at you, just a general rant…

The 3 and 4 letter agencies are out of control…OSHA, FDA, CDC, FBI, ATF, NSA, DHS, CIA, DOE are just a few that came to mind. All of which need to be reformed or abolished entirely. There is too much regulation, overreach, bureaucracy, corruption and their budgets are obscene.

For example, right now they’re claiming the FDA needs 28 million to “fix” the baby formula shortage? How the fuck does it cost more than a few bucks in manhours to call Abbott and say “fire up the assembly line.”

I know the answers to the questions I ask. I also know it’s likely hopeless and they’re just stealing silverware from the sinking titanic.

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memechallenger33 0 points ago +1 / -1

Those judges should be within the judicial branch of government. They could have lower level federal judges assigned to courts that deal with matters within a particular agency.

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SwitchbladeDrone 1 point ago +2 / -1

That's kind of what the current system is. These ALJ's are independent of the agency chain of command- like an agency Inspector General or an ombudsman. Because they only hear cases emanating from a given agency, they have a lot of depth and experience because they are always dealing with very similar situations compared to a federal judge.

So if they created special judges for these agency positions, I'm not sure the system changes at all. You idea of having knowledge-specific lower level judges is spot-on. I guess the Fifth Circuit didn't buy that they are able to operate independently of the influence of their agency- which is a mistake. Particularly there is no allegation or finding of bias. Anyway, count on them to hump this up and make things worse.

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AmericaFloats 11 points ago +11 / -0

that's basically the premise of my little infonews channel, AmericaFloats. trying to explain the articles that are important, so that your normie neighbor or 'friends' parents' could get through it without being bored to death or whatever else.

almost done with this one.

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AmericaFloats 3 points ago +5 / -2

here's my take.

"we're gonna take care of them alright, we're gonna seize their ill begotten gains!" no you're not joe.

https://rumble.com/v15mk39-sec-can-no-longer-seize-assets-at-will-biden-cant-take-care-of-ill-begotten.html

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MakeAmericaVapeAgain 5 points ago +5 / -0

nice. how is your channel doing? i like your idea of making less noticed yet important news stories accessible to people. i will check out some of your vids.

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AmericaFloats 5 points ago +5 / -0

https://odysee.com/Sec-Can-No-Longer-Seize-Assets-At-Will,-Biden-Can't-'Take-Care-Of-Ill-Begotten-Gains'-Of-'Russians':f38e29f3f729c2e38579bda456e589adc2776a1f?lc=a6f170ab15b8c53ede07ab14f465202bbeb07a300f848a58c9607e9acd215e92

this is the latest for this article.

channel is slowly but surely gaining traction & ground. without YouTube to steal new eyes, and move them to other platforms, it's been slower, but still growing and getting bigger/better/more tactful.

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SwitchbladeDrone 1 point ago +3 / -2

The douche in the video clearly either did not read the decision or does not understand English. Contrary to the depiction, the SEC can't say, "Oooo, oooo, you're a Russian oligarch and we're taking your money". You're conflating two very different things. Thing one is seizing Russian assets (under The International Economic Emergency Powers Act of 1977 and/or the Magnitsky Act) and then trying to forfeit them for the purpose of using as reparations to Ukraine. The second thing relates to the SEC's power to seek civil remedies via administrative hearings for violations of securities law. Criminal acts are, as always referred to DOJ.

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AmericaFloats 0 points ago +2 / -2

.. if you watched the video, I read the article verbatim, and added that bit in as an aside, half-jokingly. I appreciate you pointing out that they'd seize assets from actual russian oligarchs through the emergency powers act. I'm glad to know you're the guy 'familiar with Joe Biden's thinking', and that you're confident this regime will do things by the book.

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SwitchbladeDrone 0 points ago +3 / -3

You're borderline retarded, and far too stupid to understand the articles that you are reading aloud. I hope you aren't banking on making a living in front of the camera. There are thousands of other LARPing Alex Jones wannabes out there whose delivery is far better than yours and don't look like one of the pasty-faced extras from "Queer As Folk"; and actually are able to understand what they read.

The SEC CANNOT seize assets. Period. Full stop.

Here read exactly what the SEC's enforcement parameters are:

https://www.sec.gov/about/offices/oia/oia_enforce/overviewenfor.pdf

P.S. Why are you wearing makeup on a fucking podcast?

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AmericaFloats -1 points ago +1 / -2

LOL okay buddy, have another beverage and keep yourself entertained. You clearly care a lot about my appearance, so you should post a pic of your ugly mug for comparison. Then show some kind of evidence or reasoning for your ‘make-up’ bait, otherwise it just seems like you want to date me.

Sorry fag, I’m not like you, and I don’t like you.

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SwitchbladeDrone -1 points ago +1 / -2

No, I just found the makeup a bit of an affectation. Kind of over-the-top for a podcast. But whatever, I'm sure it makes your husband happy.

BTW, why do you use the American flag as a seat cover?

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raptormissle 8 points ago +8 / -0

SEC cannot file charges or impose fines against the people they believe committed financial crimes.

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SwitchbladeDrone 0 points ago +1 / -1

They have the ability to seek civil penalties ($). Criminal matters are referred to DOJ.

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IncredibleMrE1 6 points ago +7 / -1

Federal agencies don't have the authority to form their own courts.

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DrBJTester 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is kind of a big assed deal.

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IvotedforTrumptwice 2 points ago +3 / -1

People don’t even realize how big of a deal this is. More important than Roe.

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DrBJTester 1 point ago +1 / -0

Absolutely a bigger deal than Roe, which just sends Abortion back to the states where it always belonged. With modern birth control in the morning after pill this is a non-issue. Unless you want to harvest baby tissue in the third trimester for profit.

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wethedownvoted 3 points ago +3 / -0

Congress: "stocks and finances are too complicated for me to understand"

SEC: "don't worry, I know all about them. just give me the power to handle it"

Congress: "will you make sure democrats control all functions regardless of whom the president appoints to head the agency?"

SEC: "of course"

Congress: "i hereby delegate to you the power to make laws and administer justice within the realm of 'finance'"

SEC: "thanks!"

The Judiciary: "let's put a pin in that"

ATF: looks around nervously

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MythArcana 22 points ago +22 / -0

I haven't seen democrats this angry since Thursday.

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ItsTooMuchWinning 6 points ago +6 / -0

They’ve not been this angry since we freed their slaves

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Pepper2 3 points ago +3 / -0

I kind of feel like they forgot about Roe already....am I wrong?

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MythArcana 3 points ago +3 / -0

Libtard outrage lasts about two weeks, but the verdict will be soon. Let's hope it will fry their minds worse than they already are.

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Pepper2 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes, and it's diminishing. I haven't even seen a good YouTube video of a conservative interviewing nRoe protestors. The left is losing steam bigly. The question is; can conservatives capitalize on it?

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War_Hamster 18 points ago +18 / -0

This article missed the more important point. In the decision, the court ruled that agencies do not have the power to act as both prosecutor and judge, but more importantly, it challenged the agency's ability to assume a legislative role.

The implications are that none of the federal agencies can function as rule-making bodies.

Think about the ramifications of that!!!

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RachetQueen2020 6 points ago +6 / -0

Ding, ding. A huge issue I have always had with hearings in my own Fed agency.

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War_Hamster 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'd love to hear more about this.

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Stolen 12 points ago +12 / -0

Liberals do not like Bill of Rights. They prefer censorship, secret courts, and an unarmed citizenry.

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TheOutlawPepeWales 5 points ago +5 / -0

And unelected bureaucrats making "rules".

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Crappydatum 10 points ago +10 / -0

For context, a professor at Georgetown University is quote-tweeting a supposed legal expert, decrying how radical it is that a court told an administrative agency they can’t violate the rights of individual citizens. You almost have to admire the guy’s word salad of describing it as violating the “people’s ability to collectively act to protect their economic security.” It would have been easier for him to say he supports an all-powerful, completely unconstitutional administrative state–because that’s exactly what he supports.

Only a leftist would pretend that an unelected bunglecrat represents "people's ability to collectively act".

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rcstl 2 points ago +2 / -0

Only a communist... FIFY

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henri_derelicte 9 points ago +9 / -0

Simply stated, leftists do not like giving people due process and the right to a fair trial

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TravelingSalesman 6 points ago +6 / -0

I'll be the one to say it... 99% of the general population only knows that the SEC is a college football conference.

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

You’re not wrong.

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GodKingHarambe 5 points ago +5 / -0

It was like when Pocahontas chimped-out about Trump naming the successor to head the CFPB

These are all ShitLib slush funds

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SaltyKrakenBalls 4 points ago +4 / -0

They have a mind to lose?

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BostonVoter 4 points ago +4 / -0

Biden is such a fucking Loser. Everyday he acts like a terrorist and attacks his country.

I am so happy his son Beau is dead. I hope hunter overdoses ASAP

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RizzlieDoodad 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is incredibly dangerous for their democracy. But it's incredibly good for OUR constitutional republic

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AmericaFloats 3 points ago +4 / -1

Biden isn't going to be able to label You, Me, or TRUMP a russian asset, and then steal our assets, accounts, properties, etc. without a court ruling. we have a right to a jury trial, and the SEC wanted to cut that corner. pretty big corner to cut. 5th circuit saved the day, and the future.

https://rumble.com/v15mk39-sec-can-no-longer-seize-assets-at-will-biden-cant-take-care-of-ill-begotten.html

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SwitchbladeDrone -1 points ago +1 / -2

Hey numbnuts- this has nothing to do with that. This is about the SEC's ability to seek civil penalties for violations of securities law through its administrative hearings process. No Russians, no asset seizure. That is 100% pure, unadulterated LARP. Are you that stupid or do you get something out of completely misrepresenting the Court's decision? Have you even read it? It's about civil remedies for violating securities laws. Not asset forfeiture; not seizure of Russian (or terrorist) assets. It is only about the use of the administrative hearing process to address civil violations of securities laws. For God's sake, at least read the decision before broadcasting your opinion on it.

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AmericaFloats -1 points ago +1 / -2

Serious question — If you read my comment in a more joking tone, does it make more sense? Do you read things on this forum and believe everything is serious?

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AmericaFloats -1 points ago +1 / -2

"tell me you didnt' watch the video all the way through, nor know a joke when it's made, without screaming it"

you just keep screamin' brother. have a fun saturday.

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K-Harbour 3 points ago +3 / -0

We need to make a few changes to the Administrative Procedures Act — to start unwinding the massive unelected powers the agencies have made for themselves.

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Monsieur_Novembre 3 points ago +3 / -0

Now do the ATF and all their unconstitutional rulings and seizures

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blackswans 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sun rises in the East...liberals lose their minds. Sun sets in the West...liberals lose their minds

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SegAtari 2 points ago +2 / -0

The SEC was basically attempting to make their own court system and the 5th Circuit squashed them in their tracks.

Why did the SEC need its own court system, you ask? Because that’s how you play the bureaucratic shell game. Lol.

Think about it; the DOJ is so blatantly partisan and bias that it’s almost guaranteed to be a target for reform in the next Republican Congress/presidential administration. Whether that reform is real or not is irrelevant. The fact that it will be happening at all will make it much harder for the deep state actors to use the DOJ openly as a weapon against their enemies. Too much attention.

Buuuutttt…what if all the individual alphabet agencies had their OWN court systems? Court systems that weren’t widely publicized and known by the common citizenry? Why, that would make it so much easier to go after anyone deemed guilty of “wrongthink” wouldn’t it? It’s much harder to prepare to defend yourself if the attack comes in from multiple angles.

What the left is mad about is simply that they are tribalistic and their masters told them this is a win for the right. They don’t think any deeper than left=good/right=bad. Useful idiots serving their master’s purpose and nothing more.

It’s what the ESTABLISHMENT is angry about that’s important. They’re mad because this ruling is a poison pill for them. If they appeal this decision, it’s heading to the Supreme Court. That’s way more public attention than they wanted on this issue. Plus they could likely(and should) lose. Which means the decision stands as is. And that decision as is sets a precedent for every single kangaroo court to be challenged and dismantled.

The deep state is getting very loud, very vocal, they are lashing out increasingly since Trump was elected. These are the actions of a cornered animal that knows it’s running out of time.

They’re screaming. We’re winning.

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DRKMSTR 2 points ago +2 / -0

Crypto exchanges get unlocked when?

Thought so.

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BOHICA2021 1 point ago +1 / -0

from the comments: AndrewTisMyName

quote "The Democrat Party does not care one iota about individual rights. They see government as a bludgeon to be used in whatever way they please. "

Democrats are Radical Far Left Ideologues - Marxist Communists, Police State Totalitarian Fascists, who's sole point and purpose is power and control by any means necessary, who's propaganda lies, corruption and subversion of US govt law, regulations, policies to impose their unconstitutional govt tyranny on the American people is a direct threat to our Republic, our Freedom and Liberty, Individual Sovereignty, Unalienable Rights, a direct threat to America

Thank God there are still Justices in the Courts who believe in the US Constitution, who protect and defend Americans against unconstitutional codified bureaucratic govt tyranny and oppression.

Time for We the American people to take back our govt- Local, City, County, State, and Federal.. Take back our public schools, out parental moral authority, our societal institutions, our culture, that means politically electorally destroying the Democrat party, it's radical Stalinist leadership, it's radical anti-American subversive actions, it's rancid stoking of hate and violence derision and division, their seditious anti-American end goal destruction on the ash heap of history, which is what should have been done after the end of the Civil War.

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user365927285937 1 point ago +1 / -0

Police State Totalitarian Fascists

Which is why it’s such a brain teaser that they call us fascists.

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Kingslayer 1 point ago +2 / -1

Mr (((Stern))) doesn't like the ruling, wow I'm shocked.

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BlueEyedDevil 1 point ago +1 / -0
  • the bigger story here. The Democrat Party does not care one iota about individual rights.
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Abovethefray 1 point ago +1 / -0

They had boats when they arrested George Bluth...

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barwhack 1 point ago +1 / -0

One cannot lose what one already purposefully excised.

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TheSaltyVet 1 point ago +1 / -0

Commie's going to Commie.

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COLDWARPATRIOT55 1 point ago +1 / -0

What minds?

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AgnesDomini 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fifth Circuit? Texas judge?

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Patriot4ever2020plus 1 point ago +1 / -0

You mean baby killers are losing their minds. Wait, they are brainless. My bad.

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Canadian4Freedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is a very interesting case. Without enforcement, what real power does the SEC have? Congress will have to pass law to give the SEC the powers it needs to be effective.

My solution? Dissolve the SEC. Buyer beware. Let the chips fall where they may.

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Crappydatum 2 points ago +2 / -0

SEC has TONS of power! They can delist your stock, they can keep you from trading, they can STILL freeze your assets, they just can't do it unilaterally any more. You get your day in court, Now.

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The_Emperor 2 points ago +2 / -0

And can't rule that u owe rhem money and then any that you can't appeal to a higher court.

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Canadian4Freedom 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's what I meant. They can't do it arbitrarily. Enforcement then becomes far more difficult and time consuming. I still stand by my statement that the SEC shouldn't exist.

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rextexMG 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is good. More please kind sir.

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chickeninoven 1 point ago +3 / -2

"Moynihan"

"Stern"

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Goldlight 1 point ago +1 / -0

didn't this ruling basically make the sec and a bunch of other agencies unconstitutional?

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OrangeCatBad 1 point ago +1 / -0

They can't lose what they never had

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covok48 1 point ago +1 / -0

What does this mean exactly? ESGs going away? SEC can’t “sanction”?

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The_Emperor 2 points ago +2 / -0

SEC ...as an agency, can't find you did something g wrong, assess a fine and collect it from you and do so entirely in their agency. If you did something wrong, you can use the courts to defend yourself, not just the SECs internal courts.

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Dystopiaslayer 0 points ago +2 / -2

meaningless unless SCOTUS applies this nationwide

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JohnDee 0 points ago +1 / -1

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