I've never seen a doomer say this. Everyone figured out the power of the horde watching wallstreetbets. Then the netflix bloodbath.
That being said, corporations aren't giving much of a shit about their US market because they are whoring out to foreign markets while giving us pedo shit to keep their ESG score high for continued financing.
While fun to watch, it's doubtful that any amount of loss in the US market is going to make them change their ways. And even if they did, fuck 'em anyway just for being pedos in the first place.
Click the 10Y button. Disney stock neither fell because of woke politics (the entire market is down) nor is the stock at a value any lower than it was before Trump.
It, like the entire market, was overvalued because of a limitless supply of free money dolled out from the Fed. The market is simply correcting.
Look back 3 years. 10Y is missing a whole bunch of acquisitions that added a lot of market cap.
You can really only look at comps between now and April 2019, when the Fox acquisition was complete- which is where we're at now in stock price.
The last few months have wiped out nearly 3 years of gains.
"If you’ve visited DHS in the last two weeks, you’ve benefited from a significant reprieve in wait time levels. There’s a good chance you didn’t realize it, as Disney’s Hollywood Studios can be unpleasant during the middle of even a “decent” day, but wait times dropped from a peak of 76 minutes to a range of 45-57 minutes in the last two weeks. When you add it all up, that’s a huge difference ... [at DisneyWorld] wait times dropped across the board in a consistent fashion that cannot be explained away by weather, attraction uptime, or anything else."
It’s not like normies are abstaining from visiting Groomer Land or Groomer World, or anything else. No idea why in the course of the entire market dropping someone would look at this and say “see that boycott no one is doing is working”.
Okay first off - virtually every publicly traded companys stock chart looks almost identical to that right now because they are all in a race to the bottom at the present moment, which has little to do with boycotts
Second off - you can literally look at this very fucking chart that they gave as proof and see that all they have really done is simply wiped out what gains they had made after picking back up slightly towards the end of covid.....
I'm just saying, there are plenty of people cheering this not because they care about Disney, but because they see a great opportunity to make money. Moral and economic conservatives are not the same.
Disney beat EPS estimates by 71 cents, (they were forecasted at -.64 and came in at 0.08) recovering profitability far quicker than anyone expected. They also announced #s at the parks recovering faster than expected, so no too surprising they were flying high.
Netflix is down 69% YTD, and Disney was at 130 before Netflix had shit earnings. I'm all for boycotting Disney, but I don't think the boycotting can take credit for the dip.
This is great. The entire market is way over valued, and it all needs to fall down. Americans need to realize if you allow an insurrection to occur, and do nothing, you deserve EVERYTHING that happens.
It is good if you look at it from an accelerationist point of view. Nothing is going to change while people are fat and comfortable, and if we can brace ourselves through the shit ahead we can have a better world for the future.
I mean, yeah, but the point is Disney's not down 50% in a vacuum. The average tech company is down 50%. Everything was extremely overpriced and still kind of is.
People here used to celebrate Twitter dropping 3% a day after Trump said something and the whole market was down 3%, etc..
I saw a Peloton commercial. I watch UFC and that’s my only exposure to commercials in streaming content, sadly. And I usually mute commercials but my mute finger was too slow.
Anyway this peloton commercial had a bunch of their “coaches” and all the guy coaches were complete fags, saying things like “you slay sister” and shit. Fuckin hell!
There was a company that offered that service for streaming a few years back. You could personally edit out things you didn't want in the film, from what I recall. I believe it was sued into oblivion, though. VidAngel or Angelflix or something like that.
I grew up seeing everything. Titanic kate's boobs, check. Nude and sex scenes, check. Bad language (all the DIe Hard films lol), check. Still a red blooded American conservative.
I may get downvoted to hell for this, but instead of celebrating the demise of an American icon, we should be asking how it can be redeemed and de-wokified. Maybe we should all buy their stock and vote against their work board of directors?
I’d rather be able to go back to a non-woke Disney World and know that the rainbow jihadists lost, and that I helped beat their ass.
And not just Disney. I mean, EVERY big company is now woke as shit. How do we get them back?
They need 2 co-chief executives—like Walt and Roy, or Frank Wells and Michael Eisner, one creative and one operationally focused—that focus on rooting out all of the woke shit, making their parks great again, and minimizing all politics in their products. If they do that, they’d be on top again instantly.
Walt and Roy were not co-CEOs, Roy barely had a role in the company outside of being a Disney. Roy was largely viewed as a pain in the ass whose only big contribution to the company was suing the shit out of Eisner to get him to step down before he drove Disney into the ground.
As for Wells, he was the COO but he always played second fiddle to Eisner, if he had any real influence Disney quest, the entire late 90s to early 2000s decline of Disney animation, and the Euro Disneyland flop would’ve never happened.
If you have interest in Disney you should read Bob Igers book about his time as CEO, it’s fascinating.
You're writing about Roy E Disney, Walt's nephew. I'm talking about Roy O Disney, Walt's brother and Roy E's father. Roy E had a little bit of influence with ousting Eisner (and Disney really needed to oust Eisner at that point), but Roy O cemented Walt's legacy by making sure that Walt Disney World got built, and (of course) serving as the operations guy for Disney throughout the entire history of the company until 1971.
Technically speaking, Walt was president (and never CEO) and Roy O was CEO until his death in 1971. Both were registered Republicans for their entire lives, I think. (I think Roy E was as well.) Walt in particular hated liberals, and specifically LBJ.
My point is: Walt and Roy O would HATE what has become of the company. And for good reason. But I doubt they'd want it to be leveled.
I'd argue It has been clearly seen that the Walt Disney Company runs better with a creative personality (Walt, Eisner) along with an operations guy (Roy O, Frank Wells). Frank Wells ABSOLUTELY had a profound effect in keeping Eisner on course in much the same way that Roy O did the same for Walt.
Further, It was impossible for Wells to be responsible for much of the decline in the late 90's to early 2000's as Wells died in a helicopter crash while skiing in 1994. (It's even been suggested that Eisner was involved in getting that helicopter to crash so that he could seize control of the company. And I wouldn't put it past Eisner.) Wells was involved in Euro Disney, though it was well documented how at odds Eisner was with Wells regarding Euro Disney.
I probably should Iger's book--I've read so much on Disney--but I don't know that I could get through anything written by Iger. He's a globalist liberal... I figure anything he'd write would be propaganda. I've got very little respect for Iger.
I'll send a book recommendation back your way: James B. Stewart's DisneyWar. It's an outstanding book that tells the history of the Walt Disney Company during the Eisner age (1983 until about 2003). It's very honest about all of the personalities around Disney and provides a really realistic picture on what really happened in the late 90's / early 2000's and why it happened.
That’s possible, as for Wells, those were massive flops that nearly sunk Disney. Disney animation was saved by the Pixar deal and euro Disneyland is a still an abject disaster
TLJ red pilled so many people because their opinions were suppressed online. That Shitty movie Red Pilled millions…. They realized if they are censoring my opinion… What else are they censoring!?!?!?
I cancelled. Then the other day when I was on the phone with Verizon they tried to get me to upgrade and offered me free disney. I told them my thoughts on disney
Not enough. Need to lose more. People need to drop disney+ but the big one is no one goes buys their mech or go to the parks. That's their money makers.
Many stocks have decreased by large amounts recently. Not sure if its cause of their woke shit. The people running these companies dont care about retail share price anyway.
As a big Star Wars fan, I’m kinda interested in seeing the Obi Wan show, but I have a feeling it’s just gonna be more woke bs. I actually liked the Mandalorian, but I don’t have high hopes for this one.
Unfortunately, this is probably due more to the entire economy crashing and burning and insane inflation than it is to wokeness rejection, as practically everything is tanking.
Disney is entirely an entertainment company, and entertainment expenses are the first thing to be cut when times get tough.
GROW THE DISNEY BOYCOTT.
MAKE DISNEY ZERO AGAIN.
nah nah nah, may their stock price PUT THEM IN FUCKING JAIL
FTFY
Disney is not woke, it's groomer jew shit. It will feel good when they all go to hell.
I've never seen a doomer say this. Everyone figured out the power of the horde watching wallstreetbets. Then the netflix bloodbath.
That being said, corporations aren't giving much of a shit about their US market because they are whoring out to foreign markets while giving us pedo shit to keep their ESG score high for continued financing.
While fun to watch, it's doubtful that any amount of loss in the US market is going to make them change their ways. And even if they did, fuck 'em anyway just for being pedos in the first place.
I've said this before about corporations sucking foreign dick because they know they've lost the American consumer.
The solution is concrete dentistry
Click the 10Y button. Disney stock neither fell because of woke politics (the entire market is down) nor is the stock at a value any lower than it was before Trump.
It, like the entire market, was overvalued because of a limitless supply of free money dolled out from the Fed. The market is simply correcting.
Look back 3 years. 10Y is missing a whole bunch of acquisitions that added a lot of market cap. You can really only look at comps between now and April 2019, when the Fox acquisition was complete- which is where we're at now in stock price.
The last few months have wiped out nearly 3 years of gains.
Attendance precipitously down in April/May indicates some boycott success:
https://www.disneytouristblog.com/spring-crowds-fall-at-disney-world/
"If you’ve visited DHS in the last two weeks, you’ve benefited from a significant reprieve in wait time levels. There’s a good chance you didn’t realize it, as Disney’s Hollywood Studios can be unpleasant during the middle of even a “decent” day, but wait times dropped from a peak of 76 minutes to a range of 45-57 minutes in the last two weeks. When you add it all up, that’s a huge difference ... [at DisneyWorld] wait times dropped across the board in a consistent fashion that cannot be explained away by weather, attraction uptime, or anything else."
It’s not like normies are abstaining from visiting Groomer Land or Groomer World, or anything else. No idea why in the course of the entire market dropping someone would look at this and say “see that boycott no one is doing is working”.
Shush. They are trying to gloat over doomers with their smug superior ignorance.
Your just mad because the "doomers" keep ending up being right.
Jesus Christ you sound pretty stupid
Okay first off - virtually every publicly traded companys stock chart looks almost identical to that right now because they are all in a race to the bottom at the present moment, which has little to do with boycotts
Second off - you can literally look at this very fucking chart that they gave as proof and see that all they have really done is simply wiped out what gains they had made after picking back up slightly towards the end of covid.....
Pretty sure all the RINOs are applauding while they buy Disney stock in massive quantities, seeing this as a buying opportunity.
When the CEO of Disney states .... they are 'Going to create more Gay Content for Children' - I don't see allot of Parents cheering that.
Conservatives have very short memories. Disney will rerelease something and all the paytriots will run out and buy it for their kids.
I'm just saying, there are plenty of people cheering this not because they care about Disney, but because they see a great opportunity to make money. Moral and economic conservatives are not the same.
Yeah - that's fine..
In my world I see 75% of ALL PARENTS abandoning Disney (several liberal parents too) -
DIS stock price never returns until the return to a normal policy.
Is it wrong to make money from lib companies ?
If they are child groomers then yes
Some would say yes, if making money from them means they're also profitable and doing well.
Should call it Rat Fink World (from the original anti-Mickey-Mouse, Rat Fink)
in honor of Larry Fink (Captain Woke-Shit).
I find it funny that Rat Fink is now more wholesome than Mickey Mouse.
they keep coming after our kids, they deserve it, fricken pedos
It’s not just Disney
Yeah, the entire market being down is not good, not sure why this gets celebrated
The S&P is down 20%. Not negligible, but also not 50%.
Since January Disney is down way more than the market. Fuck Disney
Interesting spike in Nov 2020. Probably a payoff of some sorts for ABC News selling propaganda
Disney beat EPS estimates by 71 cents, (they were forecasted at -.64 and came in at 0.08) recovering profitability far quicker than anyone expected. They also announced #s at the parks recovering faster than expected, so no too surprising they were flying high.
They fudge numbers just like every corporation out there.
Netflix is down 69% YTD, and Disney was at 130 before Netflix had shit earnings. I'm all for boycotting Disney, but I don't think the boycotting can take credit for the dip.
probably desantis removing the tax stuff
This is great. The entire market is way over valued, and it all needs to fall down. Americans need to realize if you allow an insurrection to occur, and do nothing, you deserve EVERYTHING that happens.
MY MAN!!! 😎
Insurrection? I think I found Pierre Delecto
No, not the "insurrection", the insurrection.
I wasn't talking about January 6th puppet.
It is good if you look at it from an accelerationist point of view. Nothing is going to change while people are fat and comfortable, and if we can brace ourselves through the shit ahead we can have a better world for the future.
Are we allowed to be comfortable if we aren’t fat? At some point anyways?
I’m pretty packed with lean muscle, and I gotta tell ya, some part of me is usually sore.
Was it down during Trump? Or was it the highest ever….. that’s why
End of 2018 was rough
Smart investors are always excited for a market crash
Every growth stock is being crushed.
Peleton's down 85%, it's not because they're woke.
I mean, yeah, but the point is Disney's not down 50% in a vacuum. The average tech company is down 50%. Everything was extremely overpriced and still kind of is.
People here used to celebrate Twitter dropping 3% a day after Trump said something and the whole market was down 3%, etc..
Disneys down way more than the market since January. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s because of any kind of boycott or negative PR but it could be.
You don't want a 5k bike with a subscription fee? Come on, man!
I saw a Peloton commercial. I watch UFC and that’s my only exposure to commercials in streaming content, sadly. And I usually mute commercials but my mute finger was too slow.
Anyway this peloton commercial had a bunch of their “coaches” and all the guy coaches were complete fags, saying things like “you slay sister” and shit. Fuckin hell!
So, I Tried One of Peloton’s Anti-Racist Classes
Do you realize you’re comparing a blue chip stock with a fad stock? Lol ok dude.
So Amazon being down 35% is cuz they're woke? Tesla is down 50% cuz they're woke?
Hold on while I limber up for my mental gymnastics
Tesla and Amazon have always been volatile and are nowhere near a blue chip stock. Keep trying.
Amazon has been volatile? Maybe they’ve been Volatile going up lol arguably one of the most consistent stocks in the market.
Pelton was down before the market turned
Market average is nowhere near 50% though, Disney is getting reamed
BlackRock Plague
Go woke go broke
There was a company that offered that service for streaming a few years back. You could personally edit out things you didn't want in the film, from what I recall. I believe it was sued into oblivion, though. VidAngel or Angelflix or something like that.
Was that the one where you could say like "filter out animals getting hurt" and it would remove those scenes?
"Filter out all black people." lol
Cool Runnings becomes a really weird movie.
five minutes long...
Doing this means no more ads also. win win
Black Panther, starring Martin Freeman...
Sounds like Chinese faggot shit
This is what my mom did growing up. Two vcrs stacked. She'd edit out all the stuff and we'd have a clean version to watch.
Some heroes don't wear capes! :D
That’s what Blockbuster did back in the day, too.
I grew up seeing everything. Titanic kate's boobs, check. Nude and sex scenes, check. Bad language (all the DIe Hard films lol), check. Still a red blooded American conservative.
My mom just got rid of all the TV's and radios. We grew up like quakers.
some service should just offer streaming the Chinese editions.
everything is already officially edited out. you may have to suffer through watching the additional pandering to China they add in though
just vpn to qatar
I may get downvoted to hell for this, but instead of celebrating the demise of an American icon, we should be asking how it can be redeemed and de-wokified. Maybe we should all buy their stock and vote against their work board of directors?
I’d rather be able to go back to a non-woke Disney World and know that the rainbow jihadists lost, and that I helped beat their ass.
And not just Disney. I mean, EVERY big company is now woke as shit. How do we get them back?
I actually agree with you. Which is why I worded my title to specify that it’s ‘woke’ Disney that I’m against.
I was even considering instead posting a graph showing the rise of non-woke Disney. And the fall of woke Disney.
The house that Walt built can rise again, so long as they stick to the principles of its founder.
You are so correct.
They need 2 co-chief executives—like Walt and Roy, or Frank Wells and Michael Eisner, one creative and one operationally focused—that focus on rooting out all of the woke shit, making their parks great again, and minimizing all politics in their products. If they do that, they’d be on top again instantly.
Walt and Roy were not co-CEOs, Roy barely had a role in the company outside of being a Disney. Roy was largely viewed as a pain in the ass whose only big contribution to the company was suing the shit out of Eisner to get him to step down before he drove Disney into the ground.
As for Wells, he was the COO but he always played second fiddle to Eisner, if he had any real influence Disney quest, the entire late 90s to early 2000s decline of Disney animation, and the Euro Disneyland flop would’ve never happened.
If you have interest in Disney you should read Bob Igers book about his time as CEO, it’s fascinating.
You’re thinking of the wrong Roy. Walt’s brother Roy was largely responsible for securing the financing and making partnership, sponsorship deals.
Without Roy, there would be no Disneyland.
Yeah another commenter said that as well, I was mixing up timelines
You've got the wrong Roy.
You're writing about Roy E Disney, Walt's nephew. I'm talking about Roy O Disney, Walt's brother and Roy E's father. Roy E had a little bit of influence with ousting Eisner (and Disney really needed to oust Eisner at that point), but Roy O cemented Walt's legacy by making sure that Walt Disney World got built, and (of course) serving as the operations guy for Disney throughout the entire history of the company until 1971.
Technically speaking, Walt was president (and never CEO) and Roy O was CEO until his death in 1971. Both were registered Republicans for their entire lives, I think. (I think Roy E was as well.) Walt in particular hated liberals, and specifically LBJ.
https://weeklyview.net/2014/11/06/walt-disney-meets-lbj/
My point is: Walt and Roy O would HATE what has become of the company. And for good reason. But I doubt they'd want it to be leveled.
I'd argue It has been clearly seen that the Walt Disney Company runs better with a creative personality (Walt, Eisner) along with an operations guy (Roy O, Frank Wells). Frank Wells ABSOLUTELY had a profound effect in keeping Eisner on course in much the same way that Roy O did the same for Walt.
Further, It was impossible for Wells to be responsible for much of the decline in the late 90's to early 2000's as Wells died in a helicopter crash while skiing in 1994. (It's even been suggested that Eisner was involved in getting that helicopter to crash so that he could seize control of the company. And I wouldn't put it past Eisner.) Wells was involved in Euro Disney, though it was well documented how at odds Eisner was with Wells regarding Euro Disney.
I probably should Iger's book--I've read so much on Disney--but I don't know that I could get through anything written by Iger. He's a globalist liberal... I figure anything he'd write would be propaganda. I've got very little respect for Iger.
I'll send a book recommendation back your way: James B. Stewart's DisneyWar. It's an outstanding book that tells the history of the Walt Disney Company during the Eisner age (1983 until about 2003). It's very honest about all of the personalities around Disney and provides a really realistic picture on what really happened in the late 90's / early 2000's and why it happened.
I think you’re conflating Roy O. with Roy E.
Also, Wells had lots of influence at the company - a few flops doesn’t negate the incredible growth the company had during his time.
That’s possible, as for Wells, those were massive flops that nearly sunk Disney. Disney animation was saved by the Pixar deal and euro Disneyland is a still an abject disaster
Take back what was and is ours. Get rid of corrupted values
Just like the dems, I say let’s tear it down to rubble so we can rebuild it the way WE want it to be!
Chemotherapy requires killing a lot of tissue.
For Disney to be reclaimed it needs to be aggressively beaten down first.
You two aren’t alone on this!
We should do a hostile takeover, WallStreetBets style, and make Disney great again.
Even with this drop it has a P/E of 70. At current value every trump voter would have to pay 3 grand.
Just wait until the shorts start stacking up ;)
Make it a penny stock.
Puts on the 🐭!
Oh sweet it’s back at the price I bought in 5 years ago
I hope Disney goes into the fucking dust bin where it belongs
all we need now is some dude to make counterfiet disney dollars and destroy the disconomy.
Everything has lost half of its value. It does look good though.
Not everything, not yet.
Half its value... SO FAR
Groomers btfo again kek
Learn to code, you fuckin' rat.
Imagine Disney themed T shirts selling for 2 dollars a piece during Bidenflation and yet nobody buying them at our local store. True story
TLJ red pilled so many people because their opinions were suppressed online. That Shitty movie Red Pilled millions…. They realized if they are censoring my opinion… What else are they censoring!?!?!?
So has just about everything else. Feels bad man
Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, oh, my, what a wonderful day Disney's value is fading away! Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay!…
Everything is tanking. If it stays down when the market recovers then you will know it's working
Only half
Did anyone know that Nancy Pelosi bought a bunch of Puts in Disney for when it was in the $170s and for it to go down to $130? She never loses!
I cancelled. Then the other day when I was on the phone with Verizon they tried to get me to upgrade and offered me free disney. I told them my thoughts on disney
Not enough. Need to lose more. People need to drop disney+ but the big one is no one goes buys their mech or go to the parks. That's their money makers.
Many stocks have decreased by large amounts recently. Not sure if its cause of their woke shit. The people running these companies dont care about retail share price anyway.
Buy the dip
Not Disney. Don’t give them a penny
I want it to become extinct.
After the zombie apocalypse of covid conformity, this actually rekindles my hope for Americans in general.
More
Hopefully their quadrupling down on pedophilia will take them all the way to the bottom.
I read this Monkey Pox headline as "Disney spreads thru sex". Freudian slip.
Disney has always been shit for rubes.
At least the Democrat Kiddie Rapers have their own amusement park.
Looks like it was hit by a patriot defense missile
Mickey Mouse isn't taking it too well ...
How did they double their value in the first place?
As a big Star Wars fan, I’m kinda interested in seeing the Obi Wan show, but I have a feeling it’s just gonna be more woke bs. I actually liked the Mandalorian, but I don’t have high hopes for this one.
The PE is still 70. That's extreme high, especially for such a mature company. It's got a lot longer to fall.
Half!? NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
All woke shit dies, make it so.
Stop. I can only get so erect.
They will blame it on covid and supply chain issues.
To be fair, a lot of companies are tanking currently.
So much has changed in 12 years.
Feels like I’m back in 2005
Never forget that Disney now owns Fox News. They're not allies. They're controlled opposition.
No. They don’t own Fox News.
Haha 😂 I see what you did
So has everything tech related… and of course all tech is woke… oil is killing it right now and they’ve gone all libtard now too
I want Disney to go out of business and have to sell their parks and studios for scrap.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Let's shave another 40% off and see if that helps. F. Disney = permanent boycott of all Disney products, services and companies.
Still seeing to s of morons going there knowing it’s a groom vacation.
Unfortunately, this is probably due more to the entire economy crashing and burning and insane inflation than it is to wokeness rejection, as practically everything is tanking.
Disney is entirely an entertainment company, and entertainment expenses are the first thing to be cut when times get tough.