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mateus 47 points ago +48 / -1

This OP has hit the nail on the head. Effects of this jab are delayed and irreversible. Yes, some are immediate. But those who think they're home free if they survive the first few weeks without an adverse event (or noticing one) are smoking the wacky weed.

AnEndgamePawn 11 points ago +11 / -0

I mean the Delta variant popped off right when the vaccine rolled out. It was vaccine-resistant, what a "coincidence". Seemed obvious that covid immediately evolved around the "vaccines"

And then Omicron leaked from a lab and was the weakest but most contagious variant. It should've helped us, and probably did, but covid is still raging because, thanks to the vaccine, herd immunity is fucked and people's immunity systems are spiking at even weak contact

They built the disease in a lab, released it, then developed and released a "vaccine" that has only extended the pandemic, while they run off with their billions. Wonder when the majority will finally figure it all out

24601 1 point ago +1 / -0

Omicron leaked

I suspect that Omicron was set loose by a lab worker with a conscience.... to get the uninjected safe immunity. I also suspect that Omicron's release fucked up the WHO power grab... because humanity was no longer in danger.

The poison shot is probably going to kill a huge number of people over the next 5 years or so...

Yawnz13 0 points ago +3 / -3

No it didn't. Delta was known before the vaccine.

akira2501 4 points ago +5 / -1

Exactly.. the vaccine naturally selected for it. It was the variant best able to operate in the weakened population.

Yawnz13 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Except again, delta predated the vaccine.

akira2501 0 points ago +1 / -1

I am agreeing with you, while also adding that the vaccine didn't have to create it. It just had to be useless against it. No surprise that one of the many variants that already predated the vaccine would benefit from the vaccine being distributed.

Yawnz13 -1 points ago +1 / -2

It shouldn't have come as a surprise given that mRNA vaccines are far too specific to be useful. The spike protein is the virus' interface with the host cell, which logically makes it the likely site for relevant mutations. This means that a vaccine that induces production of antibodies against that single specific protein won't be effective for long.

Technically speaking, delta didn't "benefit" from the vaccine at all as it was already becoming the dominant variant.

akira2501 0 points ago +1 / -1

Alright.. so the vaccine is highly specific to only some strains.

Then a particular strain that clearly isn't effected by the vaccine becomes dominant, not just dominant, the only strain at 99.9% prevalence in this country for months.

And, you believe there is not a connection between these two facts.

Okay. I disagree with you.

EDIT: lol

AnEndgamePawn 3 points ago +3 / -0

Before the vaccine what? Lmao at least make a counterargument. Mainstream info says Delta originated in India in late 2020.

The vaccine was being developed for months before then, and was already being used. Could it have been tested on poor people in India where it originated? Or do you know for a fact they're not related because you're so smart?

Yawnz13 -1 points ago +1 / -2

That is a counterargument you retard. You said that the two coincidenced, then turned right around and agreed with me.

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WhiskeyDreams 5 points ago +5 / -0

I got the rona on the first wave and have tried to catch it again from every person I know that had it since then. Probably a dozen people over the years. I’ve never caught it again.

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Yawnz13 -2 points ago +1 / -3

Imagine believing anecdotes.

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stratocaster_patriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm not so sure myself even though it seems unlikely with so many variants. If we killed all the Natives with the common cold and flu and they stopped keeling over from it at some point then I say they have herd immunity to some extent. They can still get sick but it's not a death sentence in most cases anymore. Their immune systems "learned".

Smurfection 2 points ago +2 / -0

Their immune system certainly were trained but they were trained the wrong way. That's why the immune systems of the jabbed are reactivating retroviruses and causing shingles, Herpes outbreaks etc. The people who took the mRNA jabs will never develop robust and durable immunity that comes from the killer T cells.

FuckCensorship9 -34 points ago +3 / -37


HadrianTheGreat 25 points ago +25 / -0

Do you have a counter point? Consider we 100% know the vaccine is killing more than it's saving, I'd love to know your reasoning.

Or is this just another case of vaccine regret? Enjoy your vaids!

FuckCensorship9 -22 points ago +3 / -25

I don't need a counterpoint, all I can do at this point is watch the stupidity play itself out. This kind of stupid doesn't want truth, it just wants its feelings.

Consider we 100% know the vaccine is killing more than it's saving


I'd love to know your reasoning.

Reasoning? You think it's reasonable to go from acknowledging that the vaccines are more harmful than beneficial to automatically believing, endorsing and amplifying every single negative claim about them?

To LARP that they're going to kill a huge amount of people long after administration with made up nonsense? That's "reasoning" to you?

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FuckCensorship9 -8 points ago +3 / -11

This post was somewhat specific.

Yes, OP's harebrained claim that they "destroy your immune system," which again isn't at all supported by the scientific paper referenced in the 4chan post.

But you don't care about that. You don't read scientific papers and don't much care about the truth. You just want your comfortable, familiar feelings gleaned off memefaggotry, which means, again, automatically believing nonsense like this with no regard for the actual evidence. And so you react like this to anyone or anything you feel is trying to take that away from you.

Sad, but at least it's preferable to the leftie hypochondriac flavor of NPC. If barely.

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FuckCensorship9 -9 points ago +2 / -11


Claims retarded bullshit without citing any backing.


Gets mad, then demands citations in support of anything that isn't its retarded bullshit.


Love it.

DonJr2024 7 points ago +7 / -0

I'm in the middle here - I have seen just how sick and pathetic the immune systems are of people months after the vaxx. I have seen people who are young and healthy having heart attacks and clots etc many months after their last shot.

So I do think it is inside causing long term, big, issues for many people.

But it is not some clever design that will "activate" all of a sudden and wipe out half of mankind. No.

But your way of trying to temper people's excitement is pretty lame. Just make your point nicely. Don't comment like you're some authority.

FuckCensorship9 -6 points ago +2 / -8

Cry more.

Newuser99 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are right. This site loves to shit on the meme that the vax is killing millions or whatever and yet all we have is the vaers database and some tweets

YesImWhite 1 point ago +1 / -0

The vaccine isnt killing them. Their inability tto take down viruses will cause weird health issues. Doesn't have to kill.

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Azrael14 -2 points ago +3 / -5

You're getting drug for this. But it's a fair point. This "tick tok" shit with people dropping dead from the vaccine is silly. I'm sure it does hurt your immune system, but the idea people will be dropping dead soon is borderline retarded.

FuckCensorship9 0 points ago +3 / -3

They've certainly killed a fair number of people, including with people literally dropping dead from clots or heart damage. The human cost of the vaccines (in, say, years-of-life-lost) is likely to be higher than the virus itself if it isn't higher already.

But this is still a small minority of the vaccinated if we actually have a sense of proportion. The "they're all going to die" sky-is-falling-shit or even "lots more of them will die in the future" shit is just bonkers.

redgreenyellowblu 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's unknown what will happen six months or two years from now. To keep perspective, your position--that the cost of the vaccines is higher than the virus itself-- is bonkers to people that believe wholeheartedly in the vaccines. So you might want to keep a more open mind and not be so dismissive.

FuckCensorship9 -1 points ago +1 / -2

your position--that the cost of the vaccines is higher than the virus itself-- is bonkers to people that believe wholeheartedly in the vaccines.

Yeah, I call them what they are too, gullible idiots.

It's unknown what will happen six months or two years from now

Mindless handwaving. Omg, unless you send me money, the sky is going to fall in 2 years. Keep an open mind and don't be so dismissive. And send me money.


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worldowedexplanation 22 points ago +24 / -2

TL;dr eat vegetables, exercise, and take Vitamin C and D and you don’t need Big Pharma


mateus 12 points ago +12 / -0

True. That's why control freaks--with a push from Big Pharma-- have been on an insidious track to ban "control" vitamins and supplements for some time.

The attempt to drag the U.S. into the global Codex Alimentarius in the early 2000s was defeated only because of publicity and a loud unified effort by natural food/vitamin and supplement establishments. In Europe, prices soared. Those selling for $4 a bottle, for example, are now hundreds. Also, vitamins over, say, 20O mg or a certain number of IUs, require a prescription. OTC amino acids, such as lysine, are banned, as are those which mimic prescription meds. (Gee, I wonder why?)

Enter 2022, and I bet most people aren't aware that the U.S. is pushing the same thing again, especially with the number of Americans asserting their right to make their own health choices amid this Covid crap. But THIS time it's been surreptitiously slipped into an unrelated bill.

The control freaks are restless. And Big Pharma is salivating at the thought of hooking perpetual patients on their drugs, who would otherwise have a multitude of options--besides theirs-- from which to choose.

fskfsk 13 points ago +13 / -0

One piece of information I've been looking for that hasn't been answered is "If you were vaccinated but take no boosters, how long until your immune system returns to baseline effeciveness?" I know I was an idiot for getting the vaccine, but I succumbed to pressure from job and relatives. Fortunately, I've avoided getting a booster and it's been a whole year without any severe reactions.

LoobintheToobin 10 points ago +10 / -0

Depends on how bad your first injection/s were. You say it’s been a year since any side effects... implying you did have some earlier on? If you never experienced any one could hope for the placebo but some would imply at least a small dosage. The body either deals with it quickly or encourages it. If you’ve got incorporation I’m sorry to say the damage to your dna is done.

The earlier doses had a higher prevalence of placebo’s. Red states often saw the worse batches.

Phizer clinical trials docs https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04368728 Ongoing until 2023 randomized, placebo-controlled, observer-blind, dose-finding, vaccine candidate-selection, and efficacy study in healthy individuals. Won’t publish data until 2025 Op: https://patriots.win/p/141FAYiR07/vaxxies-on-suicide-watch-its-all/c/ Link to studies: https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj.o102 19x more deaths confirmed. Red states targeted with worse batches https://patriots.win/p/141F16qMWz/alert-alert-red-states-are-being/c/ howbadismybatch.com https://howbad.info/states.html Bad batch children respond https://patriots.win/p/141F5vTTMW/instant-vaxx-regret/c/ Bad batches https://communities.win/c/NoNewNormal/p/140vVZD8OT/fatalities-linked-to-specific-ba/c

There is one who can reset any incurable condition ... seek Him with all your heart that you might find mercy.

Jeremiah 30:12-17 (NASB95) 12 “For thus says the LORD, ‘Your wound is incurable And your injury is serious. 13 ‘There is no one to plead your cause; No healing for your sore, No recovery for you. 14 ‘All your lovers have forgotten you, They do not seek you; For I have wounded you with the wound of an enemy, With the punishment of a cruel one, Because your iniquity is great And your sins are numerous. 15 ‘Why do you cry out over your injury? Your pain is incurable. Because your iniquity is great And your sins are numerous, I have done these things to you. 16 ‘Therefore all who devour you will be devoured; And all your adversaries, every one of them, will go into captivity; And those who plunder you will be for plunder, And all who prey upon you I will give for prey. 17 ‘For I will restore you to health And I will heal you of your wounds,’ declares the LORD, ‘Because they have called you an outcast, saying: “It is Zion; no one cares for her.”’

DonJr2024 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think the biggest variable by far is whether the shot went into your bloodstream or just hit muscle mass and stayed local in your arm.

CuomoisaMassMurderer 6 points ago +7 / -1

Muscle has blood. There is no staying local.

DonJr2024 7 points ago +7 / -0

There is a huge difference between it going right into a blood vessel vs your muscle tissue.

Go talk to any junkie and they'll make it abundantly clear.

Smurfection 1 point ago +1 / -0

At least 70% of the jab went into the blood stream of everyone who got the mRNA jab. It never stayed in the muscle tissue like it was supposed to.

IAmNotADoctor 5 points ago +5 / -0

~ 15 months. It takes about 15 months for the elements of the vaccine to be flushed from your system if nothing else goes wrong. If the vaccine caused an adverse event, depends on the adverse event. If the mRNA was mistranslated into some other protein... ??? Who knows. If you develop an autoimmune disorder or lymphoma as a result, then never.

Smurfection 5 points ago +5 / -0

I've been looking for a paper that shows that. As far as I know, there is no paper that has verified that anyone who took the mRNA jabs is completely free of the spike protein circulating in the blood. It was theorized that it would take one year to fifteen months to eliminate the spike protein entirely from the body but I haven't seen any study that says that and the "scientists" seem to have no interest in exploring this at all.

if you know of a study that says the jabbed are truly and honestly spike protein free at a certain point, I'd love to see because I've been looking for information like this and I can't find it anywhere.

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IAmNotADoctor 1 point ago +1 / -0

Until this body flushes me out (which could take 15 months (see reference #4) unless they inject me again!) I am probably going to cause some systemic problems while I am here. Of these problems includes the dysregulation of the innate immune system, the (subsequent) induction of a hyper-inflamed environment and so many thrombotic events.


Source reference:

Bruce K. Patterson, Edgar B. Francisco, Ram Yogendra, Emily Long, Amruta Pise, Hallison Rodrigues, Eric Hall, Monica Herrara, Purvi Parikh, Jose Guevara-Coto, Xaiolan Chang, Jonah B Sacha, Rodrigo A Mora-Rodríguez, Javier Mora. Persistence of SARS CoV-2 S1 Protein in CD16+ Monocytes in Post-Acute Sequelae of COVID-19 (PASC) Up to 15 Months Post-Infection. bioRxiv 2021.06.25.449905; doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.06.25.449905.


A statistically significant number of non-classical monocytes contained SARS-CoV-2 S1 protein in both severe (P=0.004) and PASC patients (P=0.02) out to 15 months post-infection.

Assuming the injection works like an infection, the SARS-CoV-2 S1 spike proteins will remain in your system 15 months after they stop being produced.

So 15 months after your body STOPS PRODUCING spike proteins is when they are no longer detectable. The "vaccines" seem to actively produce them for up to 4 weeks, so maybe 16 months is more accurate.

Smurfection 1 point ago +1 / -0

Reference #4

Up to 15 Months Post-Infection. and out to 15 months post-infection

That doesn't say the spike proteins are cleared from the body or that the body stops making them at 15 months. It says that they were detected still in the body up to 15 months. I am still unaware of any end point to the spike protein persisting in the bodies of the jabbed or any dedicated study that specifically is testing a large enough cohort of injected to be reliable.

Previous iterations of the language saying "up to" and "out to" implied that the spike protein would not be present in the third, six and 12 months marks, but all that is demonstrably false. "Up to" and "out to" in this context, in my opinion is misleading because that was language that has been used in the past to erroneously mean the spike protein is cleared from the body in shorter amounts of time than it actually is.

At this point, I would need to see a dedicated study proving not that spike protein may not persist but does not persist. I am aware of no such study nor am I aware of any group that is pursuing this question.

Furthermore, the majority of the injected, were injected in March and April 2021. There has not been enough time to know their situations because they have not reached the 15 month mark.

IAmNotADoctor 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ok. Like my user name implies, I just read things, so this is a best guess.

Smurfection 1 point ago +1 / -0

I understand that. I'm not a doctor either. I just research a lot. My understanding is the 15 month mark was initially said by Peter McCollough in an interview with Joe Rogan. He said that before the fifteen month mark was reached even by those who were in the Pfizer and Moderna trials reached that mark. Being pressed to say why twelve to fifteen months, he responded, the human body is amazing. For a few months now, I have heard people repeat the claim that the spike protein will be cleared from the body in 12-15 months and that the human body is amazing. I don't want to dash hopes but this is all based on hopes and the natural resilience of the human body's immune system. yet, all actual studies and relevant literature point to the high probability and increasingly indisputable observation that the resilience of the amazing human body was permanently and very sadly damaged beyond repair by the injections. I'm not trying to choke hope here. I'm truly not and I wish this would all go away or we'd find a way to reset the immune system. I don't want to see family and friends suffer with this. However, I don't see any real substantial evidence that a single person who received and mRNA injection has been able to unqualifiedly say that they are definitely free from the spike protein.

Rvnyx 2 points ago +2 / -0

You can only forgive yourself, not them. The pressure was there rush you into something you wouldn't have done otherwise.

LoobintheToobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Also some herb info: Cats claw has dna repair properties. Sarsaparilla has shikemic acid in it. Full cleanse free from pharmaceuticals If at all possible. Black cumin oil is a delicious way to get ivermectin in you. Many herbs for quercitin, pumpkin oil for zink. No guarantees look into things and use your thinker knowing your own body. Bathe in cedar. Essiac tea...

I have this in my notes for Potential treatments as well. I’m sure if you’ll find any of this useful but I pray May God grant you mercy and guide you to what He made that can help you:

Ivermectin Docks to the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Receptor-binding Domain Attached to ACE2


New info to link at The shedding appears to be real. https://imgur.com/a/vUQ6PD2 https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/05/04/pfizer-confirms-covid-vaccine-shedding-leading-to-menstrual-cycle-disruption-is-possible/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtOrPE0Izdw https://thenewamerican.com/covid-vaccine-shedding-hurting-unvaxed-dr-lee-merritt-explains/ http://www.truthunmasked.org/p/stay-away.html https://www.bitchute.com/video/uNpRqMROrZQB/ https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/05/30/inventor-of-mrna-technology-fact-checked-and-blocked-for-telling-the-truth/ https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/self-spreading-vaccines-risks-to-society-informed-consent/ Some of the GA community have noticed symptoms too. The spike proteins are known to cause damage in the body. Scroll down to listen to the audio. https://nationalfile.com/report-pfizer-vaccine-confirmed-to-cause-neurodegenerative-diseases/ https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdf Pine needle tea may offer some protection from blood clots caused by the shedded spike proteins - https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-09-is-pine-needle-tea-the-answer-to-covid-vaccine-shedding-suramin-shikimic-acid.html Ivermectin may also offer protection from the blood clotting by interfering with the attachment of the spike protein to the human cell membrane - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Bl2v3BR2M But the spike proteins will still be doing other damage to your body. I don't know if spike proteins shedded from others could cause infertility. With the reproductive issues mentioned above, it's a possibility. https://imgur.com/a/ZFnWL5x https://www.bitchute.com/video/sFvi64ZbnFum/

u/ making_upvotes

A) SOURCES OF SHIKIMIC ACID (3) Pine needle tea Fennel tea (you know, the seeds they put in Italian sausage) Anise tea (the star-like things they use in Chinese cooking, taste like liquorice) B) Bromelain (an extract made from pineapples) – often sold in 10mg tabs C) Acetylcysteine (also called N-Acetylcysteine or NAC) – an amino acid often sold as 200mg tabs that the FDA suddenly wants to regulate now. Academic research on why these things are thought to be effective against spike proteins: “Bromelain Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Infection...” https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.16.297366v1 “Properties and Therapeutic Application of Bromelain: A Review” https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234100148_Properties_and_Therapeutic_Application_of_Bromelain_A_Review “N-Acetylcysteine: A Potential Therapeutive Agent for SARS-CoV-2” https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341771564_N-Acetylcysteine_A_potential_therapeutic_agent_for_SARS-CoV-2 “The Functional Medicine Approach to Covid 19: Virus-Specific Nutraceutical and Botanical Agents” https://www.ifm.org/news-insights/the-functional-medicine-approach-to-covid-19-virus-specific-nutraceutical-and-botanical-agents/#nac “Thrombotic Complications of Covid-19...” https://openheart.bmj.com/content/7/1/e001337 “Molecular Docking Studies of N-Acetylcysteine... on SARS-CoV-2 Protease...” https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/itempdf74155353254prod/12161493/Molecular_Docking_Studies_of_N-Acetyl_Cysteine__Zinc_Acetyl_Cysteine_and_Niclosamide_on_SARS_Cov_2_Protease_and_Its_Comp_v1.pdf “Content Analysis of Shikimic Acid... and Antiplatelet-Aggregating Acvitity” https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277348748_Content_Analysis_of_Shikimic_Acid_in_the_Masson_Pine_Needles_and_Antiplatelet-aggregating_Activity “Total quantification and extraction of shikimic acid from star anise (llicium verum) using solid-state NMR...” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352554116300493 “New Method for Rapid Extractions... Efficient Isolation of Shikimic Acid...” https://pages.uoregon.edu/chendon/coffee_literature/2015%20Org.%20Lett.,%20Shikimic%20acid%20extraction%20from%20anise%20using%20espresso%20machine.pdf

redgreenyellowblu 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm guessing you'll be better off if you also avoid getting the virus. If you run across the virus your immune system is going to pump out a bunch more of the antibodies to the original vaccine. So even though you didn't boosted, getting the virus is like getting a booster. Your body doesn't bother with a broad spectrum response because it thinks the spike antibodies are enough.

South_Florida_Guy 10 points ago +10 / -0

I just heard of two people I know, unconnected to each other, that are both vaxxed and "boosted" and whatever the fuck else both having caught the coof in the same week. Fucking retards. It could have been much worse!!!

TD_Covfefe_Crusader 3 points ago +3 / -0

I personally know two people just this week who were jabbed and now have Covid, one of them for the second time.

South_Florida_Guy 6 points ago +6 / -0

And they will keep getting it over and over while us purebloods will not yet they'll keep scoffing at our "ignorance". It's crazy.

PatriotBh 10 points ago +11 / -1

It’s also important to realize that this was not an oversight by the doctors or the officials in charge of funding. This has been in their back pocket for decades and been researched just for such an occasion as to try it upon their own people and cull the population

LoobintheToobin 10 points ago +10 / -0

The Amish made heard immunity reportedly March 21 Amish reached “heard immunity already “ (no vaccine)


If it wasn’t for inoculation... Feb 18 2021: Cases are down 77% over the past six weeks "We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April" -- "the consistent and rapid decline in daily cases since Jan. 8 can be explained only by natural immunity" -- by Dr. Makary, professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health -- https://archive.vn/Kjylu https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731

sustainable_saltmine 8 points ago +10 / -2

the only vaccines that actually work are the "dead virus" ones or the "similar but less severe" ones. The ones that introduce you to the real thing, just modified to not be able to cause real harm, or close enough to trick your immune system into a response...they get you to produce antibodies and you're good. mRNA is junk science and really just gene manipulation. Spike protein is NOT "benign" and does accumulate in the body. It HAS caused organ damage.

Your best chances of having any real immunity to any coronavirus is EXPOSURE, either through natural encounters or artificially though "inoculation/vaccination".

You should not need 2 "starter" doses of any vax then "boosters" on a regular interval forever.

Lurker6 8 points ago +8 / -0

Thanks for putting boosters in quotes. It's literally just multiple shots of the same vaccine.

king07828 8 points ago +8 / -0


Pre-existing antibodies to endemic coronaviruses (CoV) that cross-react with SARS-CoV-2 have the potential to influence the antibody response to COVID-19 vaccination and infection for better or worse. In this observational study of mucosal and systemic humoral immunity in acutely infected, convalescent, and vaccinated subjects, we tested for cross reactivity against endemic CoV spike (S) protein at subdomain resolution. Elevated responses, particularly to the β-CoV OC43, were observed in all natural infection cohorts tested and were correlated with the response to SARS-CoV-2. The kinetics of this response and isotypes involved suggest that infection boosts preexisting antibody lineages raised against prior endemic CoV exposure that cross react. While further research is needed to discern whether this recalled response is desirable or detrimental, the boosted antibodies principally targeted the better conserved S2 subdomain of the viral spike and were not associated with neutralization activity. In contrast, vaccination with a stabilized spike mRNA vaccine did not robustly boost cross-reactive antibodies, suggesting differing antigenicity and immunogenicity. In sum, this study provides evidence that antibodies targeting endemic CoV are robustly boosted in response to SARS-CoV-2 infection but not to vaccination with stabilized S, and that depending on conformation or other factors, the S2 subdomain of the spike protein triggers a rapidly recalled, IgG-dominated response that lacks neutralization activity.

IAmNotADoctor 9 points ago +9 / -0

Ah ha...

The SARS-CoV-2 virus spike protein has two subunits, think of it like a dandelion spore - the spikey S1 subunit on top, and the stem or stalk S2 subunit on the bottom.

Prior exposure boosts your immune response, with cross-reactive antibodies attacking the S2 subunit of the wild virus. The vaccine completely fails to boost IgG and IgA (Immunoglobulin G & A serum antibodies) responses to infection despite having increased specific antibodies... the vaccine only targets the S1 subunit of the spike protein, and cross-reactive antibodies from prior exposure target the S2 subunit NTD, presumably preventing the virus from binding or fusing to a cell to infect it. Secretory Immunoglobulin A or SIgA is found in your mucus membranes, and is an important part of stopping respiratory infection before it gets to the rest of your body.

Basically, this proves the vaccines are making people more vulnerable to endemic infection.

Edit: Yup, rate of vaccination correlates positively with rate of hospitalization -- https://metatron.substack.com/p/do-the-covid-19-injectables-aka-vaccines-db9?s=r

SwedishChainsaw2 7 points ago +7 / -0

This is virology 101 shit, right here. If you inoculate based on a single protein, all variants without that protein will make their way through and thrive. Your immune system will practically help the variant that lacks the protein. Jesus. Did anyone besides me pay attention in highschool?

TD_Covfefe_Crusader 5 points ago +5 / -0

Exactly, and every jab in existence, every dose administered, was based on the spike protein of the original Covid.

RealRedneck 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep. It's the exact same principle as antibiotic resistant bacteria. The resistant bacteria survive and are amplified. This isn't even Virology 101, more like BSC 101.

Edit: Source: I have a degree in Biology Education. (Although I work in IT. LOL)

WeAreTheBadGuys 5 points ago +5 / -0

Everyone involved is a Nuremberg Code violator. After mass death we will hang them.

Shockthemonkey 4 points ago +5 / -1

The UniParty and the doctors in the medical industrial complex are owned by Big Pharma and they don't care how many people die from this poison, they are getting paid and that is all they care about.

SmartGuy 3 points ago +3 / -0

Immunity doesnt work the way people ha e been taught google terrain theory

ALT26 2 points ago +2 / -0

Woodchippers in Minecraft©

pikX 2 points ago +2 / -0

Big pharma aside, I don’t mind the idea of normal vaccines. It’s like letting the body study for an exam. These, pretending they work, are more or less a cheat sheet of the answers, as soon as the problem is different, your lack of understanding won’t help.

TD_Covfefe_Crusader 6 points ago +6 / -0

I have developed a strong distrust of the medical profession and anything from Big Pharma after this Covid bullshit.

pikX 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hence the “big pharma aside”. You can use a tool for good or evil.

ProtestantPatriot 1 point ago +2 / -1

Covid has y’all so damn scared lololol repentance goes a long way and you’ll see the actual psyop y’all are falling for, fags always parroting their narratives and fear prons

JudgeMental 1 point ago +1 / -0

Africans are not jabbed. They will rule the world like Planet of the Apes.

YesImWhite 1 point ago +1 / -0


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D3PL0R4BL3 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not as big as the crime of cooking up the virus in the lab in Wuhan and then intentionally releasing it in the first place.

Gnometard 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ya but we're supposed to be scared of mRNA, not the actual mechanism for damage because we might not come across as retards that way

cozy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is there anything I can do to help against the jab effects longterm? Please help me fellow pedes

TheScream 1 point ago +1 / -0

MALONE and GEERT VANDEN BOSSCHE in Spain -- deep dive interview covering the biology and the politics- Our systems have completely broken down. Government, science and medicine. Leaves the door open for the opportunists-

a must see- Those vaccinating children must know they take responsibility.


excellent interview Malone- https://www.bitchute.com/video/vvwowDJ1C6Dn/

DearCow 1 point ago +1 / -0

In terms of crimes against humanity, this will pale by comparison to what they're brewing up.

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FuckCensorship9 -15 points ago +1 / -16

Blah blah blah. Your inane doomer commentary has nothing to do with the actual scientific paper quoted by the 4chan OP or 4chan OP's comments.

kek_saved_the_world [S] 11 points ago +12 / -1

it also goes into detail how S1 deactivates Toll Like Receptors turning off teh alarm system of the cell then activates innate immunity to the point they run away in a destroy loop and autoimmunity.. subunit activates endothelial cells which activate neutrophils which explode into NETs this is the cytokine feedback storm and causes the most severe tissue damage, on top of the clotting!

Our data also revealed an additional mechanism through which S1 potentiates microvascular endothelial injury via the direct activation of neutrophils. Indeed, leukocytes challenged with S1 further increased their recruitment on S1-activated endothelial cells and promoted neutrophil NET release. The clinical relevance of our data rests on the findings that both the accumulation of neutrophils activated by SARS-CoV-2 (80), and the formation of NETs in damaged tissue are associated with a poor COVID-19 prognosis (81, 82). Collectively, our findings highlight that S1 plays a direct role in fuelling the process of inflammation in microvascular endothelial cells.

Exposing HMEC-1 to S1 significantly promoted the deposition of platelet aggregates under flow at high shear stress, which demonstrates that S1 directly affects the endothelial thromboresistant phenotype. This phenomenon was likely the result of the S1-induced alterations in the complex interplay between the surface expression of P-selectin and vWF, due to increased exocytosis. However, the contribution of blood-derived vWF should also be considered, as revealed by the lower level of vWF expression in the serum-free experimental setting. It is well known that endothelial P-selectin participates in the process of thrombosis by binding directly to platelets or by interacting with vWF, which further supports our data. At high shear stress, this latter fundamental adhesive substrate enables the deposition of platelets, tethering their GPIb and then αIIβ3 receptors (56, 69).

Furthermore, the ability of S1 to induce the loss of thrombomodulin – a cofactor that prevents local fibrin formation and that is also an inhibitor of complement activation (59) – may amplify the thrombotic effects triggered by the viral protein. Considering that S1 was able to promote exocytosis in endothelial cells, the loss of thrombomodulin could be the result of its shedding by newly exposed proteases on the cell surface.


FuckCensorship9 -6 points ago +1 / -7

"S1" stays in the body in decreasing quantities over a few months, big whoop. Yes, it was already well known that spike proteins cause clotting.

This is not "destruction of the immune system."

Even the impaired immune response specifically against subsequent variants of SARS-CoV-2 is nothing like that.

Yes, the covid vaccines are relatively unsafe, ineffective and even counterproductive. Yes, there is immune escape of SARS-CoV-2 in particular. No, they don't "destroy the immune system." No, there is not vaccine-based depopulation. And VAIDS is make-believe, especially the way people here currently find fashionable to frame it.

IAmNotADoctor 7 points ago +7 / -0

The inclusion of pseudouridine as an RNA nucleotide in the mRNA vaccines suppresses toll-like receptors, that's admitted even by proponents of the vaccines, indeed, praised by them. It was hailed as a "break through" that allowed the vaccine to be developed in record time.

It's also why a 17-year old, white, track athlete friend of my family was diagnosed with cutaneous T-cell lymphoma 3 weeks after his Pfizer booster. This is a type of cancer normally only presenting in 80+ year old black men who were habitual tobacco users. You disable part of your immune system, all sorts of things are going to cascade.

If you don't think vaccines are impacting the immune systems of those who are vaccinated, you don't understand the science behind how they were able to stabilize a relatively fragile mRNA payload in a lipid nanoparticle and store it for months without the mRNA truncating or being mistranslated.

Well, spoiler alert - actually they failed with that, too. Why isn't everyone who was vaccinated dropping dead? 80% or more of all adverse events are being reported for doses with a lot # of within 1 month of the date of manufacture. I.e. the shelf life of the mRNA stabilization is approximately one month, but they didn't tell anyone that. So, if your dose was within 1 month of manufacture, you are going to have a much higher risk of adverse events because that's what the vaccine "working" looks like - it creates spike proteins and messes with your immune system. But it seems to completely drop off after one month from date of manufacture, which means the mRNA is either truncated and is discarded by the body, and is essentially harmless/worthless except for the other things they put in the vaccine, or it is mistranslated into prions, or misfolded proteins (instead of creating SARS-CoV-2 S1 spike proteins), which could take up to a decade to develop into some neurodegenerative disorder or condition.

As far as the specific antibodies, that means antibodies that are only effective against the specific encoding in the vaccine, they are only effective against the spike proteins on the original variant, and are less effective on subsequent variants. But your body will produce these antibodies instead of general antibodies if you get infected naturally. And your body won't produce IgA or IgG, either. And it will be in your blood, where the vaccine's LNPs settled down, not in your mucus membranes which is where you need them to fight off respiratory infection.

All of this is why triple vaxxed & boosted people are getting COVID over and over again (I know some family members who have gotten this several times).

On top of that, my first cousin died from the vaccine (sudden cardiac arrest), my step-father-in-law had a heart attack because the capillaries in his heart suddenly calcified post-booster (known adverse event in mice, the vaccine disrupts your body's ability to regulate calcium phosphate in your blood by producing all those spike proteins that disrupt normal function of endothelial receptors), and now my sister-in-law had a sudden micro stroke and brain bleed at 43, 4 weeks post booster.

The science doesn't lie. But even if you don't understand or believe the science, people see those around them being harmed - it can't be explained away or hidden anymore.

FuckCensorship9 -7 points ago +1 / -8

The inclusion of pseudouridine as an RNA nucleotide in the mRNA vaccines suppresses toll-like receptors

Wrong right off the top. It doesn't do anything to the receptors. Instead the receptors simply ignore modified mRNA the same way they ignore mammalian RNA or methylated RNA. Indeed, they have to ignore mammalian RNA or else we'd all be dead from cytokine storm.

Further, pseudouridine RNA modification is common in nature, including in the human body, already.

When you get something so serious so wrong right away, I have no reason to read the rest of your nonsense.

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redgreenyellowblu 1 point ago +1 / -0

Here's what I hear from pro-vaccine fanatics when I first told them I had a friend that died from a cardiovascular problem after his second Pfizer: "No, vaccines don't cause strokes or heart attacks." It's either that or, "Well, there was probably something else going on."

That's like you, with your insistence that the vaccine can't cause immune system damage. You don't know that, just like how when the vaccines were first first released you didn't know that they were "relatively unsafe, ineffective and even counterproductive". You didn't know at that time that it was the spike protein itself that was cytotoxic to endothelial cells. None of us knew that. None of us knew that the J&J vaccine would get quietly discontinued except for people who can't get Pfizer or Moderna. J&J was "safe and effective".

Meanwhile, many of us noticed that some people we knew were having cardiovascular problems after the vaccine. And we were dismissed.

Similarly, many of us are seeing now that some of our vaccinated friends or family are getting sick repeatedly or are getting surprise cancers. So don't be so sure of yourself here. We don't know one way or the other if repeated exposure to the mRNA genetic therapy can, in the long term, cause either immune system fatigue or can otherwise interfere with normal immune protection.

FuckCensorship9 0 points ago +1 / -1

Here's what I hear from pro-vaccine fanatics when I first told them I had a friend that died from a cardiovascular problem after his second Pfizer: "No, vaccines don't cause strokes or heart attacks." It's either that or, "Well, there was probably something else going on."

So what? The evidence is definitive: they can cause strokes and heart attacks. They're demonstrably wrong. What of it?

That's like you

How? Can you provide a good reason for that equivalence?

with your insistence that the vaccine can't cause immune system damage.

  1. I never said that and I am not responsible for you trying to put words in my mouth.
  2. The vaccines can cause some immune system damage, including autoimmune conditions - both persistent and transient, and generally transient neutropenia. They may also cause inappropriate macrophage polarization leading to chronic inflammation and immune impairments. None of this is "VAIDS," especially as that ad-hoc term is being thrown around on this website. None of this is immune collapse on a mass scale.

You don't know that

In the same sense that you don't "know" if the sky will fall in 2 years unless you give me money. Now give me money.

when the vaccines were first first released you didn't know that they were "relatively unsafe, ineffective and even counterproductive".

Actually, I did, because I was paying enough attention to how the trials were being conducted (and enough about that was known even in Summer 2020), and I already had enough reason to suspect malfeasance having kept track of the Emergent Biosolutions/Dark Winter to Event 201 saga and the WHO & BMGF's shenanigans with vaccines for the previous decades. And plus a basic grasp of immune escape and the inherent challenge of vaccinating against endemic seasonal RNA viruses - which is also what makes the seasonal flu vaccines ineffective. And plus the already suspected issues with ADE and epitope variation. And plus the killer lymphocyte problem with protein and mRNA vaccines, already known years before and reported on in the literature in June 2020. And plus the toxic and potentially auto-immune causing adjuvants needed for protein vaccines. And plus the problem of lipid nanoparticles and lymphatic transport, rather than a localized immune response - a problem already known. And plus, obviously, the ridiculous timeframe for developing a vaccine when proper drug testing of a vaccine takes 5-15 years. And plus a general knowledge of how vaccine research and public relations have been tainted by scientific corruption and social engineering for a century.

You didn't know at that time that it was the spike protein itself that was cytotoxic to endothelial cells. None of us knew that.

Correct, nor did I know then that proline-modified vaccine spike (S2P) being locked in the binding configuration may well worsen this problem, cause system ACE2 overactivation issues and invoke more killer lymphocyte problems. But this is irrelevant. Of course we've learned more about why the vaccines are bad since their release, but that in no way prevented people from knowing enough to avoid them and discourage their use on rational grounds from the start.

many of us noticed that some people we knew were having cardiovascular problems after the vaccine. And we were dismissed.

I'll stop dismissing the mindless doomers for what they are when we "notice" the masses die off and civilization collapse.

We don't know one way or the other if repeated exposure to the mRNA genetic therapy can, in the long term, cause either immune system fatigue or can otherwise interfere with normal immune protection.

On the level that you meant this: we can't know this, again, in the same sense that you don't "know" if the sky will fall in 2 years unless you give me money. Now give me money.

On a deeper level, yes, repeat vaccination can cause T cell exhaustion, at least in theory, but again this is not mass VAIDS and die-off.

Smurfection 1 point ago +1 / -0

well, we hope it's not mass VAIDs and die-off. We don't know that yet. What is certain is that for the rest of our natural lives, humanity is going to be divided between those who got the jab and those who didn't.

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FuckCensorship9 -7 points ago +1 / -8

it also goes into detail how S1 deactivates Toll Like Receptors

Also, no. Stop bullshitting.

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