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DJT2020 136 points ago +140 / -4

They are doing this on purpose, you know. They’ll have this country a shell of its former self within ten years.

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hansgruber7 184 points ago +184 / -0

It already is a shell of its former self.

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orange_dit 27 points ago +27 / -0

A shell of it's former shell

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TrumpChampBelt 11 points ago +11 / -0

A form of it's shelly shelf

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559throw 3 points ago +3 / -0

I shell the shelly shell of something that shells .... shelly

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FAQ-REDDIT 1 point ago +1 / -0

shell be the last of shells in this shell line.

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grenades_and_ham 3 points ago +3 / -0

She sells seashells by the seashore,

The shells she sells are seashells, I'm sure.

So if she sells seashells on the seashore,

Then I'm sure she sells seashore shells.

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Juice 2 points ago +2 / -0

She better walk that ass back to the seashore. Them seashells ain't gonna be selling themselves.

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user365927285937 1 point ago +1 / -0

A shell of its former kernel

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MikesMeat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Itself, a former shell,

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muy_libre 115 points ago +145 / -30

If we’re being fair, you’re a fucking idiot.

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Soundwave 16 points ago +46 / -30

I don’t know about “street prostitution” but I agree with him to an extent. I don’t really have a problem with legalizing it. What two consensual adults do behind closed doors is not the government’s business.

But I am more than willing to listen to reason. If anyone can tell me why the government needs to be involved, without using the “it’s immoral” or some variation of the slippery slope argument (x leads to y, which leads to z), I’d really like your insight.

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muy_libre 64 points ago +80 / -16

If you consider a hooker being abused by her pimp, forced to sell her body due to a plethora of reasons - most likely drug addiction - “consensual,” that’s pretty twisted.

You “libertarians” have no idea what our founding fathers meant by “liberty.” It certainly didn’t mean freedom to whore out your body. Disgusting.

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throwawayStudent 54 points ago +61 / -7

Literally this. The Constitution was meant for MORAL and RELIGIOUS individuals. Not for simps and thotneeshas.

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TheReaper 18 points ago +18 / -0

Franklin said specifically that it was meant for a moral and just population and would not work otherwise.

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Nicehorn -1 points ago +7 / -8

So are we banning porn, too? Strip clubs and OnlyFans? How about vibrators and cock rings? Am I still allowed to masturbate?

How the fuck do you define what's "moral". I hope we're not using the Bibles version of moral because there's a lot of fucked up things Christians do on the daily then. Not following Leviticus would make us all heathens.

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AlFreeman 17 points ago +26 / -9

There were whore houses all over during the founders time. Ben Franklin was a huge fan. The founders couldn't imagine anyone thinking to ban them.

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RedditSuxAss 5 points ago +7 / -2

He smoked the wacky weed too, if I'm not mistaken.

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magagama 1 point ago +2 / -1

Ben is the true “father” of our country, as he had many illegitimate children. 😎

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Mitch_WerBell_III 10 points ago +23 / -13

Libertarians would legalize pedophilia, incest, heroin and will make countless more stupid fuck decisions.

These are the dipshits that don’t think corporations should have to list ingredients on food labels because they believe “it’s a cost they pass on to the consumer!”

Their entire movement is a sham led by grifting cunts and bastards that milk them for free money. They’re worse than Democrats.

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TonsOfSalt 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's hard to commit to a voluntary transaction when you don't know what you're purchasing to eat. I can even see some libertarians agreeing to ingredients labels.

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Rs1250xl 4 points ago +7 / -3

Yeah, no...you sound like you spent too much time listening to Frothly Rick Santorum's idea of libertarians. Pedos are a no go. Legalized heroine, maybe but without government handouts the problem would solve itself.

The libertarian party has been pretty shitty for a while, but the Mises Caucas is a lot more aligned with sanity.

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mynewspiritclothes 2 points ago +6 / -4

Incest and heroin? Yes. Pedophilia? No. That is child abuse. Alcohol is literally more poisonous than heroin. Do you have no problem with its legality? Nah - I think you're just vulnerable to propaganda that "drugs are bad, mkay?" I absolutely agree that incest, heroin, and prostitution are vile. Doesn't mean I can prevent other free individuals from partaking in them, even if it's bad for them, just because I don't like it. I have conservative values and in my personal life, I strive to conduct myself according to conservative principles. HOWEVER, I cannot foist my principles upon any other man at the point of a gun.

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HeavyMetalPatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's a reason the regular libertarian candidate for president Vermin Supreme wears a boot on his head.

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MeloniaisMelons 6 points ago +6 / -0

And they kept abortions for this reason too, pimps can keep their hoes on the street this way.

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Millie1234 4 points ago +8 / -4

Ok but then her pimp should be arrested and she shouldn't be.

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muy_libre 19 points ago +28 / -9

Find me ONE single, solitary example of a prostitute that isn’t being exploited, abused, captured by addiction and desperation - someone that is truly choosing to pursue whoring as her life’s path, and you might have a point.

But that person doesn’t exist. Your ideology is a fairytale.

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freebirdie 20 points ago +20 / -0

It can be summed up in one word. Pimps. Pimps traffic women, many underage. A good many women only walk the street because they are forced to under threat of grave physical violence from their pimp. Look what pimp gangs have done in the UK. It's almost never just a hoe on the corner turning tricks. It's pimp gangs and stables of whores and drugs and rape and murder. I haven't even brought up male prostitutes and how they get into the trade yet. Any of this sound like a bad thing or is it too "moral" for you?

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Mitch_WerBell_III 5 points ago +6 / -1

Libertarians are like John Paul Jones.

They say some cool shit until they get kicked out of the inner circle, end up as dilapidated old men molesting little 10 year old girls and ultimately die alone.

If only that process would speed up and skip a few steps.

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Jebs_guac_recipe 4 points ago +10 / -6

Anything illegal attracts criminal minds. Compare it to the legal version, porn. No pimps, no violence, better health & disease screening, better pay….

Making brothels legal would give girls in a bad situation a new option. Brothels would make most pimps irrelevant & put them out of business. Immoral shit happens regardless of legality & making it a criminal offense always leads to less humane conditions.

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Neutral_admin 9 points ago +9 / -0

Porn actresses are often exploited and need to be heavily drunk or disassociate to get through their scenes

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MehNahMehNah 4 points ago +4 / -0

Shit even 'legal' activities have criminals operating in plain sight.

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BlackPilled4Decades 15 points ago +15 / -0

Just out of eyesight from every street hooker is a pimp making sure she ain't taking too many breaks

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RINOhunt 1 point ago +3 / -2

Let's make those hooker's felons and remove their gun rights, that'll show those pimps who's boss.

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Wanderlust 7 points ago +7 / -0

They're not talking about making prostitution legal, but advertising and soliciting for prostitution on public streets. That's where me and my kids will be. To get to our business my kids will get to learn about the birds and bees in a whole new exciting way.

You see kids, when a lonely John can't get none...

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WakeUpWorld 5 points ago +17 / -12

I agree. Just like the War on drugs. All it does is create a blackmarket where it gets more dangerous and seedy. Making it legal, the best and safest methods will float to the top.

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muy_libre 13 points ago +19 / -6

Ah, yes. The “best and safest methods” of whoring out your body. Is that how it’s worked out for California when they essentially legalized hard drugs? I’m sure the homeless on skid row are enjoying the “best and safest methods.”

You libertarians are so fucking delusional and sick.

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BringBackBroke46 0 points ago +3 / -3

Im for legalizing drug use so long as producing, dealing and trafficking of drugs gets people the death penalty.

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trump4045 -3 points ago +8 / -11

You can't answer the points presented. Guns kill school kids. The only reason you support gun rights is because you want to shoot school kids.

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libman -17 points ago +8 / -25

You don't want ten million libertarians voting for Trump? GTFO.

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Isolated_Patriot 27 points ago +31 / -4

No, I want ten million children to wake up and realize their ideology of tolerance caused this shit we're in.

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mynewspiritclothes 0 points ago +2 / -2

No sir, your ideology of subjugation to authority is what caused this shit we're in.

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Isolated_Patriot 0 points ago +2 / -2

Nice try, but you failed to read the room pretty hard there.

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libman 0 points ago +4 / -4

You're the one preaching Mommy Government tolerance, idiot.

Let the communists kill their children, get AIDS, poison themselves, and starve.

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Isolated_Patriot 1 point ago +2 / -1

Really? Care to point to my post history for that? Or are you just making it up because I hurt your feefees?

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trump4045 -10 points ago +1 / -11

Lol where is trump now?

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Tacosalad67 4 points ago +4 / -0

Many Libertarian ideals are good, some are bad... but they never had any real pull since Ron Paul...

I think MAGA Republicans and the Libertarians on this site are a different breed than your actual Libertarian of the Libertarian party or your classical bend the knee, uniparty conservative...

The people here are pro America, and want to MAGA. We are pro freedom nationalists that want less government intervention.

People here use Libertarian to describe an ideal or Republican, but MAGA is its own thing, and we're all mostly on the same page and sometimes it's hard to describe as it really is a mix of Libertarian and Republican ideals, but we are against the globalists, which means if you're here because this is what you believe in, means you respect our national sovereignty.

I tell people I'm a constitutionalist these days.

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muy_libre 6 points ago +10 / -4

Nope.

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Noxide -8 points ago +2 / -10

Well I guess that means you’re a fucking idiot.. to be fair. :^)

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muy_libre 5 points ago +7 / -2

Neat

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Mitch_WerBell_III 1 point ago +4 / -3

Die, you stupid fuck.

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WokeYoke 3 points ago +3 / -0

We need EVERYONE we can get. Even sick in the head liberals who silently vote for Trump because Biden destroyed their life.

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MehNahMehNah 1 point ago +2 / -1

Hey, he paid to bang Stormy Daniels. No judgement.

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FancyNancy 14 points ago +15 / -1

While I understand there are better uses of police resources, like solving violent crime and theft, we still lose the culture war via death by a thousand cuts. The left has taken enough inches to make the mile. We need a return to God in this nation if we are to ever return to our former glory.

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Klown_Schwab 18 points ago +18 / -0

Yeah yeah. How many American women

  1. Go to college, fuck 20+ chads and tyrones
  2. Marry a simp (and lie about their sexual history)
  3. Divorce him a few years later when they get bored and use the feminist family court system to force him to keep paying long after she's provided any services or benefit to him

This is worse than a prostitute. A prostitute is more honest and honorable than women like this.

Sexual "liberation" and feminism have so heavily degraded our culture that prostitution is the least of our worries. Worrying about legalizing prostitution is closing the barn door long after the horses have bolted.

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RoosterHeadBad 1 point ago +1 / -0

Reminds me of a cost/benefit analysis a guy living in NYC did a few back. He broke down the average cost to date a woman to the point of sexual intercourse VS. being a “sugar daddy.” It was an eye-opener.

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blmJizz4RetarDs 1 point ago +1 / -0

Never though about it like this.

You’re absolutely correct.

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Inquisitor_Corvus 1 point ago +1 / -0

¿por qué no los dos?

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Philhelm 4 points ago +5 / -1

I think that war was already lost, but the U.S. was better over 100 years ago when there were saloon girls on the street and faggots in the closet.

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Philhelm 5 points ago +5 / -0

I've seen enough Westerns to know that they hoop and holler from the balcony.

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Bandhandshakevet 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fuck i cant stop laughing at this

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Teddy_Rex 3 points ago +3 / -0

Of the six mainline protestant denominations how many embrace homosexuality?

Five?

Even the Southern Baptists recently rejected the Conservative option for President

I'm not worried about prostitution being decriminalized when American religious institutions, that should be the bulwark against immorality, have been lost.

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permissible_missile 12 points ago +12 / -0

Congratulations on your brand new account! 🥳

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MehNahMehNah 2 points ago +2 / -0

Cope and Seeth handshakes! 😎

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anatidaephobia 7 points ago +8 / -1

Speaking of the use of police resources, it's easier to arrest the prostitute than it is to arrest all the customers. Hence, make it legal to buy a prostitutes services, but illegal to sell sex. The important thing is to get rid of those that openly and aggressively advertise their services out in the open, especially where it's exposed to kids. If someone is very discrete and hide in the shadows, then don't bother unless it bothers the neighborhood.

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SboneyLovesGod 3 points ago +3 / -0

Please, expound.

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libman 5 points ago +6 / -1

Pimpin' ain't easy.

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anatidaephobia 8 points ago +8 / -0

Puppets is what they are, you think everything will return to normal if someone where to whack Bidet? keep dreaming. You could drop a nuke in DC now and all that would happen is that the blue helmets would show up tomorrow as the "saviors", and everyone would cheer them as they continue the new world order agenda. First order of business, seize all the guns so that nobody could nuke the government again. 🤡

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anatidaephobia 3 points ago +5 / -2

“I was just following orders”

That's communist propaganda, the real purpose of the Nuremberg trials where elimination of witnesses that could expose the hoax. Every German soldier caught where beaten until the point they would admit anything.

Now imagine yourself in that situation, you're being accused of something you didn't do and beaten until you admit, what are you gonna say? Of course your reply will be “I was just following orders”, that's all you gotta say, then you get a bullet in your head and the pain will end.

Take out the puppet masters, and most of your politicians will suddenly start to fear the people, except maybe Biden because of his dementia, but everyone else will fall in line.

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Jacques1102 -7 points ago +3 / -10

Hitler was the one who started the war,stop with this weird idea that he wanted to save europe.Does invading,Czechoslovakia,Poland,Denmark,Norway,Belgium,France sound like saving europe?Unless you want to believe all these countries were under the control of (((them))) then there's no reason to invade these countries.

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anatidaephobia 4 points ago +7 / -3

Denmark and Norway is key to the Baltic sea, as well as Sweden with it's iron mines in the north. You'd be strategically retarded if you don't protect Sweden while depending on them for import of iron ore to your tanks, vehicles and weapons.

France, Poland, Belgium, Netherlands etc all needed to defend the shore where Brits and American may land, it makes perfect sense to protect all those areas from the allies.

And all of these countries, unlike Germany where already slaves to the federal reserve, including Sweden. (((They))) never told you about the eugenics that where going in in Sweden until the late 60's, gee wonder why. How come the allies left Sweden alone, if they where the good guys who just wanted to stop eugenics. 🤡

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Jacques1102 -4 points ago +2 / -6

What eugenics?What the fck are you talking about?Also killing europeans to try and save europe regardless of the reason,doesn't sound like someone saving europe.

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anatidaephobia 3 points ago +4 / -1

The allies killed more Europeans than any other participating in the war. Europeans died defending their countries from communist scum and cucks bending over for the communist scum.

The irony that did didn't even hear about the mass execution of "lower standing races" you where sent to Europe to put an end to. The war was never about that, it was all about destroying Germany, because Germany had the guts to abandon the federal reserve system, thereby evading the jew tax.

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BlomKruka 1 point ago +2 / -1

Fake history want you to believe that the nazis where the eugenics, in reality it was always the sozis, many of which operated out of Sweden. One people, one party the documentary the sozis don't want you to see.

If the war was really about saving the jews, Sweden would have been the main target, not Germany.

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Jacques1102 -3 points ago +1 / -4

Except nobody said the war was really about saving jews.

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Metalheads4Trump 0 points ago +4 / -4

This "Hitler was a good guy" bullshit is used as forum sliding on here. Also, people who agree with legalizing prostitution apparently have no sisters or female cousins to reflect on before supporting such a sub-human legislation. There's no way that joke of a "law" will stay put.

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UncleBoobs 2 points ago +3 / -1

Upvoted. Also tired of glowie/stormfags trying to make this site a red flag central.

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Jacques1102 0 points ago +2 / -2

Honestly,i don't understand the creeping hitler love on here.Why do these people think all jews act and think the same thing?I know a ton of jews here.Nobody wants to kill white people.This is going to lead to another synagogue shooting.

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ATK69 8 points ago +8 / -0

Germans were burning and using their hyper inflated marks as building blocks and mother/daughters were working street corners to feed themselves before they collectively reacted to the threat. I pray we don’t get to that point, but I’m not hopeful.

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DJT2020 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yes, it will be a crash and burn and no one will come to our aid.

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RabidZoo 6 points ago +6 / -0

Who will come to kick us while they think we're down?

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DJT2020 7 points ago +8 / -1

Chyna, Russia and probably most of the EU.

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RabidZoo 5 points ago +5 / -0

Sounds like a party. I hope the UN comes first.

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fuckthealphabetsoup 6 points ago +6 / -0

Blue helmets go pop!

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anatidaephobia 5 points ago +6 / -1

China maybe, Russia rarely bothers to fight pointless wars overseas unless someone is fucking with Russians. EU definitely won't do much as EU was never a threat to the US in the first place, not because of weak military, but because EU never had anything to gain from attacking the US.

Nationalists maybe come for (((those))) who caused this, but won't bother any civilians.

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SHILL_DETECTOR 36 points ago +36 / -0

Aids burger in paradise?

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scruffyusp 2 points ago +3 / -1

You win the internet today as far as I am concerned.

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BasedMedicalDoctor 14 points ago +20 / -6

Cucked libertardians think this is a good thing

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Isolated_Patriot 12 points ago +12 / -0

You'd think they'd wake up by now, but no.

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Tyrone_biggums 7 points ago +7 / -0

As a recovering lolbertarian I woke up.

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notCIA 5 points ago +7 / -2

This

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mynewspiritclothes 3 points ago +4 / -1

I would never argue that prostitution is a good thing. But it's none of your fucking business how two consenting adults choose to interact. Freedom is an objective absolute. Period. You can believe prostitution "should" be illegal all you want, but you cannot also sit there and tell me you believe in freedom.

I don't understand how you don't understand: subjugation to authority and government control is the very reason the entire fucking world is going to hell in a handbasket.

Freedom. Not just some of it. All of it. If not all of it, then it's not. Fucking. Freedom.

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Noxide -2 points ago +7 / -9

Explain why it’s a bad thing.

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BasedMedicalDoctor 11 points ago +14 / -3

Moral decay.

Libertarians are autistic, unable to separate black and white from negative real world implications. Their thinking truly borders on autism (and I’m being generous by only saying it borders on autism).

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mynewspiritclothes 4 points ago +4 / -0

It is not in the government's purview to moderate the moral structure of society. Its sole purpose, as per the Constitution, is to ensure the people are free to operate within their own moral boundaries. When government begins to inject arbitrary moral regulation, no matter the value in question, that is when you begin to see the disintegration of morality in society. It would then suggest to man that as long as he acts within the confines of the law, then he is acting morally. Law does not dictate morality. The basis of our Law is that it is guided by the principle that man should be free to live as he pleases as long as he is not infringing on the right of other men to live as they please. It's that simple.

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BasedMedicalDoctor 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting. I will consider this.

Tell me from a libertarian perspective — assuming of course you believe in the free market — how do you view funding infrastructure in a truly free market?

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mynewspiritclothes 3 points ago +3 / -0

Throughout the ages, if man needs something done, he will get it done. Not that you're saying this, but I've always thought it's silly to believe the "only way" to build roads and maintain infrastructure is through government. If people find value and necessity in investing their time and efforts to any task, especially if that task is essential, he will get it done.

I do know that private roads and tunnels are far better maintained and operated than any public road. Because there is incentive. Pot holes, cracks or faults are repaired as soon as they are apparent. Accidents are cleared within minutes instead of the hours it can take for public roads.

Just my thoughts.

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BasedMedicalDoctor 1 point ago +1 / -0

Very insightful. Thank you for sharing

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igolfohio 1 point ago +1 / -0

Locally. Infrastructure capital used to be funded willingly by business owners in an area instead of through taxation. They would determine a road that’s needed or needing to be repaired and they would pool their funds together and have it done because they need the access to operate their businesses.

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BasedMedicalDoctor 1 point ago +1 / -0

What about residential roads? Especially ones housing residents that aren’t well off? There’d be no incentive to repair that road, and the residents living there wouldn’t have enough money (or, likely, influence) to get anyone to help.

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Noxide -4 points ago +3 / -7

That’s the same type of argument the left can use on us regarding abortion. Try a better argument that justifies why an adult person can’t use their body to make money this way.

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BasedMedicalDoctor 4 points ago +7 / -3

So because a specific argument is utilized by both sides, that means it’s invalid?

And I already explained — moral decay. Real world implications.

The difference between Libertardians and conservatives is conservatives have the intellect to utilize critical thinking to grasp overall societal implications, whereas Libertardians just see everything as black or white. It’s a mental disorder.

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Noxide -1 points ago +5 / -6

Again, not an argument. All your doing is a different flavor of authority that regulates peoples lives.

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ProphetOfKek 1 point ago +2 / -1

Slippery slope is just a fallacy, bro!

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Tyrone_biggums 1 point ago +2 / -1

I think it’s clear by this point that mild authoritarian control of society’s morals is the glue that holds civilization together. I don’t think hookers should be treated as criminals or anything, but the state blessing prostitution by declaring it totally lawful, progressive even, only perpetuates further degeneration of any objective standards of morality, which leads to suffering.

People are not islands. People’s actions can harm the culture, even if in isolation it appears as though the person is simply “acting freely with one’s own body”

This argument is categorically different from those in opposition to abortion. You are mistaken if you believe there is any inconsistency here

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DontApologize 6 points ago +8 / -2

Because it leads to a less productive and less happy society. If prostitution was legal everywhere you would have a lot less marriages and a lot less happy and healthy kids.

This is why we have marriage incidentally - it's for the kids. It's a trade off - the guy gets to have regular sex - but he is stuck raising the kid and only gets one woman. This is the tradition that led to successful societies.

Societies have tried other approaches - some go with polygamy - and there were times prostitution was legal. It never makes the society better.

So sure from a libertarian perspective its not wrong. But if you are conservative and want to go with what WORKS - you don't want legal prostitution.

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Noxide 1 point ago +3 / -2

Because guns leads to a less productive and less happy society. If guns where legal everywhere you would have a lot more families shot and a lot more school shootings.

This is why we have gun control - it's for the kids. It's a trade off - the people get to have limits on their right to bare arms - and the government can keep tabs on the owners. This is the tradition that led to safe countries.

Societies have tried other approaches and there were times when guns have no control. It never makes the society better.

So sure from a libertarian perspective its not wrong. But if you are democrat and want to go with what WORKS - you don't want guns.

...Are you starting to see why this argument won't work?

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FlySciFiGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0
  1. The right to keep and bear arms is enshrined in the Constitution. The right to be a prostitute is not.
  2. Guns have never been found to make society worse. Sexual immorality always makes society worse because stable nuclear families are the foundational prerequisite to a flourishing civilization.
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DontApologize 1 point ago +1 / -0

Guns and Sex are both regulated. You need a background check to buy guns. You can't buy nuclear weapons etc. Sex is regulated as well. You need to be of age of consent to partake in it. You cannot (generally) just trade it for money - except in specific locations or under specific circumstances.

And the reason we have these rules is to benefit society. Now you can make a case that more access to guns ruins society and that we should further curtail gun rights - but I think an armed society is a polite society.

Not sure who you are arguing with but I never claimed to think we cannot regulate guns at all. I am totally cool with it being illegal for murderers to buy guns.

So your little analogy is not as tight as you think it is.

Moreover, the right to be a hoe is not in the Constitution. Regulation of sex is perfectly legal and it is done in every society because it is the driving force behind men in our world. Hell even Einstein felt time was faster around pretty women.

Just because we don't restrict guns from law abiding adult citizens - that doesn't mean we can't restrict hoes. They are not the same thing. You apply different sets of restrictions to different things.

You are arguing that that we shouldn't restrict sex on libertarian grounds aka - that sex is legal and selling is legal - so shouldn't selling sex be legal.

That's a good argument I think. But what I am saying is the reason why you would regulate sex is that entirely unregulated sex leads to a shitty society. So even if it isn't moral from a libertarian standpoint you do it anyway. And we do this with LOTS of issues.

It's the same with marriage, adultery and polygamy. The reason all of these aspects of sex have legal ramifications is because while they are all "legit" from a libertarian perspective we try to shape behaviour into monogamous heterosexual relationships - because these are better for society.

Freedom is an important value - its not the ONLY value.

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American-Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sodom and Gomorrah

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Gadsden 11 points ago +12 / -1

The astounding part is that liberals support this degenerate behavoire simply by calling it "progressive."

Unbelievable.

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Smurfection 8 points ago +9 / -1

whatever straight white Christian conservatives are against.

FIFY

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runonce 59 points ago +59 / -0

"Ya got yer whoring licence on ya there sugartits?" : California State Patrol probably.

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CrenshawMAGAt 37 points ago +37 / -0

“Oh, no, papi. I forgot to renew it. Maybe we can make… some kind of arrangement…?”

“Lady, if you’re trying to bribe me, you should at least offer something your daughter hasn’t already.”

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__bryan 12 points ago +12 / -0

read in the voice of Mel Gibson

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SrzlyYUGEguacbowl 20 points ago +20 / -0

There is a lot of lefty crazies in California, but we all know that Gavin Newsom was installed as governor. They don't have fair elections in Commifornia.

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rapsheet1mile 7 points ago +7 / -0

Name me a place with fair elections! :P

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fuckthealphabetsoup 3 points ago +3 / -0

Mars?

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ProphetOfKek 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Fabricator General has some news for you.

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American-Patriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

Some elections are more fair than others

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Smurfection 4 points ago +5 / -1

This is for the elites in California. They want South of the Border Mexicans doing on their menial tasks. Americans doing all their work that requires a bit of schooling. They want all the daughters available for their drug fueled parties. Either that or they're looking for the next Kamala Harris and it's easier if prostitution is legal.

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jrgreen73 12 points ago +12 / -0

I suspect Californians will put up with it if the prostitutes stay in their usual bad neighborhoods. But it sounds like they can now stand in front of nice houses in nice neighborhoods and turn tricks and that is not going to go over so well.

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Lurker404 5 points ago +5 / -0

They'll be where the customers are and those ain't in nice neighborhoods.

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BadManOrange 3 points ago +3 / -0

You don't think middle class people don't mess around with whores?

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Lurker404 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yea but they're not going to do it in the open in their own neighborhood where all the gossipy neighbors can see them pick up a hooker.

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Bazhosh 1 point ago +1 / -0

Prostitution is legal in many European countries and the prostitutes have to pay taxes and get health insurance.

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ChiefCRON 42 points ago +43 / -1

Lol you thought escape from New York, and escape from L. A. were movies?? No they were predictions.

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Shakakka99 5 points ago +5 / -0

This should be a T-shirt.

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fuckthealphabetsoup 2 points ago +2 / -0

1980's dystopian b-movie plots: Exist

"It was a prophecy"

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3dandy 36 points ago +36 / -0

Keep in mind that it's still illegal, they're just trying to make the stupid ones think it's legal now. So prostituting or paying for one is still illegal, it's not illegal to make adult films tho.

SB 357 does not decriminalize soliciting or engaging in sex work. Rather, it simply eliminates an loitering offense that leads to harmful treatment of people for simply “appearing” to be a sex worker.

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deplorable-d00d 6 points ago +7 / -1

Well, the next time Patriots are assembling and being told to move, they can just say, sorry officers... We're just hooking here.

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ProphetOfKek 1 point ago +1 / -0

But if one of the police officers solicits you, what do?

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JuanTitor 5 points ago +5 / -0

"Sorry, I still have standards"

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thelastlast 22 points ago +25 / -3

this is getting hilarious now. China, a country that literally threw its girl children in the garbage for decades, is now using them to fuck American politicians in order to wreck the US in unconventional warfare. and its fucking working because we're retarded.

we deserve everything we get.

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rapsheet1mile 9 points ago +9 / -0

I wasn't even alive when these people subverted my government.

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Philhelm 2 points ago +2 / -0

But it's all your fault!

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KAGMAGIC2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

welfare and keeping blacks in the country after the civil war is what killed the country. No blacks = no kkk (which turned into the democrats which used the blacks to gain power - the "civil rights" movement and welfare systems).

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BadManOrange 3 points ago +3 / -0

I guess you could say that they had originally underestimated the benefits of taking advantage of yellow fever in the West.

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lurkwellmyfriends 15 points ago +17 / -2

The libertarian part of me says "whatever", but the reality part of me understands that this will only hasten and galvanize the decay and rot.

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Smurfection 15 points ago +21 / -6

Let me help your reality side....the entire problem with Libertarian thinking is that it thinks the rot can stay in a box and not spill over. It always spills over.

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Isolated_Patriot 3 points ago +5 / -2

Then you have almost arrived.

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Noxide 0 points ago +11 / -11

As a libertarian at heart I also have no issues with adults doing this. People here forget that it was the rigid standards of control that Christian Conservatives had in the first place that made large groups of people leave in the first place. It seems many of them have learned nothing and they will lose power faster than they are gaining it if they push these puritan issues.

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AmannamedRJ 5 points ago +6 / -1

Yeah man. Damn White Christians and their rules. Lets legalize prostitution to show our solidarity

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memeYourDreams 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's was plenty of prostitutes during the formation of Christianity. The rigid standards are fake news and propagandas. They would invest on zealots on the right to drive people to the left on purpose.

The real rigid standard is that of Islam, yet they function relatively ok. So how can wearing your dress below the knees be so bad?

It offend people when caste/class/birth is brought up. But more and more I see that groups of us cannot make decisions for themselves let alone others. Its a genius analogy of the Shepard and the sheep. The relationship, back then, of a Shepard and the sheep is more like the cowboy and his horse. You cannot let the horse steer you. Thus libertarians are adorably naïve.

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DontApologize 0 points ago +3 / -3

Making loitering for sex legal goes beyond being a Puritan. It encourages behaviour that is harmful to society.

Let's imagine that drugs become 100% legal, gambling 100% legal and prostitution 100% legal - instantly. How do you think America would end up?

Do you think any marriage would last if you could you know get some on the side anytime you want with virtually no blowback? How many drug addicts would we have?

Traditions are solutions to problems. Prostitution is traditionally illegal because it will cause massive problems in your society. Your men won't do shit for kids or their wives anymore..

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Noxide 4 points ago +5 / -1

Making guns legal goes beyond being a Puritan. It encourages behavior that is harmful to society.

Let's imagine that guns become 100% legal, no regulations, no restrictions - insanity. How do you think America would end up?

Do you think any school would last if you could get some fire arms whenever you want with virtually no blowback? How many deaths would we have?

Gun Control are solutions to problems. Guns are traditionally illegal because it will cause massive problems in your society.

...See what I did there?

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f_bastiat 4 points ago +4 / -0

Very good point. Too much grey area to be all or nothing with these subjects. Do I care if my neighbors have full auto guns? No. Do I care if they have a tactical nuke? Yea I personally wouldn't want to live next to something like that.

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FlySciFiGuy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Every single time a state has relaxed its gun laws or adopted constitutional carry, absolutely nothing happened. Every time, the Left clutches its pearls and claims that crime will spike and schools will get shot up even more. Yet it doesn’t happen. Your analogy does not correspond to reality.

School shootings aren’t caused by more guns, they’re caused by government agencies inciting shootings so that more “common sense gun laws” can be passed.

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Amaroq64 1 point ago +1 / -0

That just sounds really based and like women will hold no power over men anymore if they can just buy sex instead of bend over backwards for it.

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DontApologize 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are not wrong. It would reduce the power of women. From a conservative standpoint it would greatly damage society as well. Remember one hot woman could 'service' a half dozen men.

Men would adjust and not work nearly as hard as they could ignore the needs of average women altogether. This is why no country actually does this. Even in places like Thailand prostitution is technically illegal. They don't really want Thai men engaging in it. They just want to profit off of foreigners.

In a few places its regulated enough so that it is super expensive and thus again its not worth it for most men as these women would cost more resources then simply getting married.

Tradition exists for a reason. We don't have polygamous marriages either and the reason behind this is that if we did men's chance of finding sex would fall dramatically (especially if prostitution was illegal).

It's all been figured out before - the morals of the west are not simply maintained because of the Bible but because they produce effective, efficient and happy societies.

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Iranhasnukes 11 points ago +12 / -1

Noah is getting closer to completing his arc, it is time

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invalid_data 6 points ago +6 / -0

Institutionalizing sin. This is spiritual warfare from Satan himself and his army. California, a place of such of Godly beauty from the nature and wonder there, of course is being attacked and destroyed by the devil.

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MythArcana 10 points ago +11 / -1

It's been legal on Capitol Hill for many decades now.

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BabyTrump 10 points ago +12 / -2

Well gotta pay for ya gas somehow

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sandinyourteeth 8 points ago +8 / -0

The left sexualizes EVERYTHING.

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NC_patriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

Lol, of course.

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Hades440 7 points ago +7 / -0

Pretty soon people looking at California will be turned into salt.

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GoldwaterVoter 2 points ago +2 / -0

:)

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runonce 6 points ago +6 / -0

Newsom just keeps doubling down on his promise to make California the shittiest state in the nation.

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SrzlyYUGEguacbowl 5 points ago +6 / -1

I guess it kinda makes sense since California is the porn capital of the world. Anyone who buys into that crap that porn is "artistic expression" is full of it, porn is prostitution.

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Smurfection 2 points ago +3 / -1

This has been the argument for a long time...those who want legalized prostitution have been saying what's the difference between prostitution and filming porn? It's just that one is front of a camera.

That being said, I think smut peddlers are basically pimps and prostitutes.

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SrzlyYUGEguacbowl 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pretty much.

The only reason porn isn't illegal is because it makes BIG money.

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Smurfection 2 points ago +3 / -1

That and the sexual revolution of the late 60's but mostly the 70's along with the mainstreaming of porn by Playboy.

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SrzlyYUGEguacbowl 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's almost the same as people who exploited slavery to get rich back in the day. Aside from the big name porn stars, most don't make much and the women are sexually abused on and off set. All the while their pimps rake in all the profit after they finish raping their client.

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f_bastiat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Porn has has a massive influence on the direction tech industries have gone as far as DVDs and what formats became standard. People don't realize the impact porn and videogames have had on tech.

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DontApologize 2 points ago +2 / -0

The money it makes is greatly exaggerated IMHO. I think its a Billion dollar business or so. That's not really that awesome in our inflated world.

Porn OTOH is pretty good at demotivating men.. so there is that if that was one of your goals.

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user365927285937 1 point ago +1 / -0

HMTDUSARSY?

IBINETTAOTIWFTPRYBS.

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scruffyusp 5 points ago +5 / -0

Upside? Now the whores in government have a place to go to work after we kick them out and confiscate their assets.

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Brickapede2 5 points ago +6 / -1

So much disease to spread. Of all the types of prostitution to legalize, he doesn’t go with regulated brothels or escorts, but fucking street walkers.

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Philhelm 2 points ago +2 / -0

At least a hooker is more likely to make a man wear a condom than a "civilian" girl.

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Noxide -3 points ago +2 / -5

Eh, the argument of disease being spread doesn’t work when we all pretty much came to a consensus regarding the personal responsibilities of COVID.

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Brickapede2 3 points ago +5 / -2

It’s not an argument, faggot. It’s a statement of fact.

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Noxide -3 points ago +3 / -6

Congratulations, you are no different than the vaxtards.

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user365927285937 2 points ago +2 / -0

I actually agree with you here. The sexual “disease” scare is fear mongering bullshit.

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SteelyEyedTroglodyte 5 points ago +5 / -0

God has a fix for all this bullshit.

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MohaveSkipper 1 point ago +1 / -0

...and it can't happen soon enough

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notCIA 5 points ago +5 / -0

Progressives are hellbent on ruining the modern woman completely so that the nuclear family finally dies out.

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MohaveSkipper 2 points ago +2 / -0

Degenerates, not progressives.

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notCIA 4 points ago +4 / -0

Same thing

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AmannamedRJ 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's not even the modern woman. Porn addiction comes with crippling side effects for our young males and Porn is everywhere.

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notCIA 2 points ago +2 / -0

Very true, but even a porn addicted guy can limp his way into a relationship at some point for the most part. A woman with infinite partners is never going to settle down. That's what we see with divorce stats. It's becoming more common and it's primarily women divorcing men. They just aren't satisfied once they've ridden the carousel. Commitment becomes unfathomable.

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MAGAborn 5 points ago +5 / -0

Thatll be fun getting solicited at the grocery store with your kids

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PleaseFaceWall 5 points ago +5 / -0

Next, CA issues mandate for sex workers to obtain city license and register as LLC to do business as under their preferred Trade Name.

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RobezTobez 5 points ago +5 / -0

California: The Mexican Whore's Paradise

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KD86 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wasn't federally illegal until 1910. Shouldn't it be a state issue anyways? I mean, its not like outlawing it has stopped it.

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Noxide 0 points ago +3 / -3

Agreed. I dislike the hypocrisy around here.

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Greenhills 4 points ago +4 / -0

Per Obama “you can really tell a country by how they treat their women”. If only I wouldn’t get fired for responding to that stupid post on LinkedIn the dildo liberals have taken over.

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Baconb_breakfast 4 points ago +4 / -0

Almost to the point of legalizing pure anarchy.

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Kraken_V_Algorithm 4 points ago +4 / -0

This doesn't do anything to further legalize prostitution. It actually just repeals a provision that allowed police to disperse loiterers who are known for sex work.

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cosmos411 3 points ago +3 / -0

Decades ago, when I was a teenager, my Dad started commenting the Leftists won't be happy until we're fornicating in the streets like dogs. It took a while, but he's not far off anymore. Those people are degenerates at best.

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Matehmateh 3 points ago +3 / -0

the children are being exploited out in the open. sex slavery is legal in CA

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Always-FreeUSA 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sodom and Gomorrah in the works. God won't like that. And there is the San Andreas fault line. It'll be easy. I totally expect to see that state sinking in the ocean in my life time.

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SaltyArizonan 1 point ago +1 / -0

That would make my backyard oceanfront property! So long as the tsunami wasn't to big!

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f_bastiat 3 points ago +3 / -0

Here's the thing though, even where its not legal its still easily available. Id wager 9 out of 10 massage parlors are just legalized whore houses, and every major city has those few streets where the ladies of the night walk. You also have to ask yourself if its any more degenerate than wining a dining someone with the only goal of getting laid, where often one party is taking advantage of the other and causing emotional damage vs banging a hooker and not even exchanging names. This isn't really a black and white thing, lots of gray area to consider, I don't think blanket legalization is good, I also don't think a blanket ban and enforcement is good either.

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k_the_c 0 points ago +1 / -1

Great points. I'd add that it's none of the government's business what someone does, voluntarily, with their own body.

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DrJosephWarren 3 points ago +4 / -1

Lol that's going to be fun for Newsome to defend at the Presidential debates

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jrgreen73 3 points ago +3 / -0

Are the prostitutes going to be turning tricks in front of Newsom's house? Or Pelosi's house?

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NC_patriot 3 points ago +3 / -0

They'll hire them for parties.

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ShwiftyNature 3 points ago +4 / -1

Prostitution should be legal ffs. Its absurd that it isn't.

Call it degeneracy, its still freedom.

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Wiggle-Hard 3 points ago +4 / -1

Wasn't it already legal inside the state house and the halls of Congress, what a non story

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CornPop69_420 3 points ago +3 / -0

Finally your mom can stop being hassled by the cops. HEYOOOOO!!!

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TheLeftIsAntiRight 3 points ago +6 / -3

This isn't a big deal.

Sins don't matter in the real world. As long as it's 2 consenting adults, what's the problem?

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RetardFarts 1 point ago +2 / -1

I need the government to tell me what I’m allowed to do

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DonttrustChina 2 points ago +3 / -1

Honestly why is this the government's business? It never was until the Mann act.

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Wiggle-Hard 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm sorry if you're a conservative In California, leave the state, all of you could make other states very red

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SirGongShow 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kids, we're going to Disneyland!!!

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JMSmith23 2 points ago +2 / -0

So damn sad this country has absolutely no values or morals anymore.

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LGBTQIAIDS 2 points ago +3 / -1

I had no idea that it was even illegal in the first place.

There are incumbent Leftist governments in other countries, most notably, Spain, who, albeit because of feminist rather than conservative reasons, are going the other way and re-criminalizing prostitution.

I assume that Spanish feminism is of the victimary, 'sex-negative' variety; whereas American feminism is of the 'emancipatory', 'liberatory', 'sex-positive' kind?

Considering that America has the dubious distinction of producing well over half of the world's 'adult' filth, I imagine that American feminism tends to see prostitution as 'empowering' rather than 'oppressive', hence these new policy decisions?

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Snooptwo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Honestly, not sure why prostitution is illegal anyways. It’s already legal if there’s a camera and it’s being spread around to our kids. On the street? Nah prolly not great to have it on the street. But if a dude wants to find a girl online and pay her for her time, that should not be illegal. It’s none of the gov’s business. They just hate they can’t tax it.

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crackerstacker 2 points ago +2 / -0

I would hire a few hookers to shadow Gavin everywhere and constantly proposition him. Enjoy the meal with your family....

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BigMikesSwingingCock 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is this where all the politicians are going to go and loiter about now and wait for special interest billionaires to come purchase them?

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Bandhandshakevet 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've never been someone to shallowly judge a person by the state they come from but my God California is almost the exception. It's so bad that you really have to prove to me you're not a degenerate liberal scumbag who I will give no respect to if you're from there I have no idea how you tolerate it. Course it's happening everywhere and spreading like a cancer more and more but really it is concentrated on the West Coast far more.

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ToTheRescues 2 points ago +2 / -0

I suppose Newsom is no longer breaking the law then

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VikingHalo45 2 points ago +2 / -0

Newsom likes prostitutes.

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GreyGooseDown 2 points ago +2 / -0

Eh. I am a Libertarian. What two adults do is on them. It is disgusting, but whatever. Bring it into the light so it is safe.

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OwlHoller 2 points ago +2 / -0

And then they will begin lowering the age of consent, to both accept and “work”.

You watch and see.