He then said he had information that would lead to the arrest of Hillary, after which he shot himself in the back of the head 4 times, and threw himself off a bridge :p
It’s worse than that…you can have literal HIV/AIDS and be deployable, but Lord forbid you don’t have the clot shot, because then you’re a major health risk.
tl;dr: Wuhan-flu is worse than ass-cancer, apparently
And everyone knows a president always gets re-elected during a war. Wait and see the war with Russia escalate around august/September this year, and really get ramped up around July 2024.
We need strong local state militias and a tiny military capable of mutually assured destruction of foreign enemies if need. No more world police, no more massive military globalist grift machine.
I agree. Military industrial complex has basically taken over the world. They’re probly what 1/4 -1/3rd of the entire global cabal? Then the pharmaceutical industrial complex all tied together with the banking industrial complex
Not only will they be unable to find new recruits, they have fucked the on es they have with their jab. Wait until there is some sort of action, with soldiers collapsing on the battlefield like sports stars.
The elites plan to get in their private jets and fly off to another country. They're not masterminds, they just have a vague set of goals they want to accomplish through indirect influence.
Whether those countries will play nice with them is another matter.
New Zealand will definitely be part of the elites' Plan B. That's why the kiwis were recently disarmed. The citizenry used to have very respectable gun rights before Christchurch...
The counterpoint to the kiwi-question is that all of NZ can probably be militarily conquered by the average texan family in the space of a single afternoon. Those hobbit holes will not be comfortable for too long, the hunt will be on.
New Zealand still has a military and the elites still have security. Just the population has been disarmed.
New Zealand is amazingly easy to defend especially with an air force and naval force. Amphibious landings are very very risky. England to Normandy was about 50 nautical miles. China to Taiwan would be about 75.
Closest point in Australia to New Zealand is about 2,100 nautical miles. That's a lot of time and distance with your ground forces and logistics sitting in vulnerable transport ships.
If the crux of what you are saying is 'if there was a substantive military to defend it, it would be defensible', then what you are also saying is, its not defensible.
Where do you think this theoretical defending military will be conjured from, if the entire world (including the US) is out for blood and the highest value enemies of the world are hiding out in the hills near Wellington or Auckland? China? They would want the common enemies dead too. Ditto Russia. Europe? Nowhere is further away from the EU than NZ, and they can arguably not even defend their own interests let alone anywhere else.
No amphibious transports have ever been sunk by wishful thinking, no cruise missiles have ever been waved away by holding hands and singing. And its not going to happen in this scenario.
The vax situation has caused me to never trust the government or military for any reason ever. existential crisis? Im fighting for myself and my family. A government that feels entitled to interfere in my personal health is a criminal organization and must be brought to justice, not martyred for.
Keep in mind recruiters are pretty much just mid level NCOs who get told they're doing recruiting duty. They have no control over any of the woke crap they just get orders to meet a quota and if they dont big army shits on them.
There's only a few years left to cut rank and file troops a break. Anyone still in soon will have reenlisted after the POTATUS got in office. That means they had a choice to serve under the potato and chose to do so. Zero respect for anyone who passes up an opportunity to leave the military under this idiot.
I believe State Guards still exist in about 1/2 the states. I wish I knew of them when I was younger. Avoid the Coast Guard unless you want to patrol the Iranian coast...
Joining the Reserves or the National Guard no longer protects a soldier from deployment to a theatre of combat. Look at how many R and NG were deployed during the Global War on Terror. At the height of the war, NG and R were called up and deployed for eight to ten months at a time for some specialties.
And that's the way it was from around 2003 thru 2012. Almost no NG or Reserve unit wasn't activated sometime during that time period. Many of them were activated over and over and over again.
I'm not telling anyone to enlist, in fact i would strongly advise against it, I'm just pointing out it's unnecessary to shit on recruiters because they aren't in control of any of it.
No, they deserve to get shit on. They're motivated by advances they get for every recruit and they're often shitheads who somehow can't be slapped with a sep code. I can tell you've never served by your naivete.
Was army E-4, from what i understood you get sent orders for recruiter duty when you're between E-6 and E-8 based on needs of the army and you're expected to just meet the quotas. I dont know a lot about how things work, i knew pretty early on that the military was going to shit and got out.
E-5 through E-7 were selected for recruiting duty just like they could get selected for drill sergeant if they didn’t get enough volunteers. If you’re a shitty recruiter you get sent back to the regular Army as an ineffective recruiter early rather than having to do three years. Of course, you may get sent back with a shitty evaluation so you can forget ever getting promoted past E-6 or E-7 depending on what you left as.
You could flat out refuse as some of the people here are suggesting but that is still disobeying a lawful order. You’ll have to make the personal determination if you want to end your career like that (not an easy decision if you have mouths to feed at home and no post-military plan). If leadership in recruiting wanted to take it far enough they could try to hit you with UCMJ on the way out which could fuck you in the civilian sector with some jobs due to the criminal conviction if it goes to a court-martial.
Thats one way to look at it i guess, but honestly even as fucked as things are i don't regret the time i spent in and it remains one of the defining parts of my life. I think most people who serve feel that way despite how much of a clusterfuck things become.
That's like saying Ghislaine Maxwell just had a job and she wasn't in control. Ok, she wasn't in control but she was complicit.
Just like recruiters, she was bringing fresh meat to be sacrificed for the powerful.
If a recruiting NCO is stuck in the army and can't get out of his contract, just refuse the jab and he's out. Simple. So I don't buy the premise that these poor NCOs are stuck there just doing a job.
They're complicit in bringing naive young men into an institution that hates them and views them as disposable. If they actually recruit anyone, they're complicit.
Still sad, one of my associates' mothers was going on about her granddaughter joining the Marines. She also buys the Russia bad propaganda because she's Polish.
Served 8 years in the army under Clinton when things started changing. I now live in a military town and regularly deal with servicemembers. Comparing my personal experience with what these guys tell me now:
They'll chapter your ass out for things they would have just given you an Article 15 for in the past.
The wars are never ending. When I was in we had Panama lol. Now we have guys who spent fucking years in the middle east.
That fucking clot shot. I just talked to a guy last week who seemed like a good soldier but who was getting chaptered for refusing the shot. Even now they're trying to force him to get the shot.
Hard to be motivated when your commander in chief is a senile liar and the generals and admirals are an assortment of perverted retards.
idk. When I was in it felt like a very dysfunctional and abusive family but still a family. Now it just seems dysfunctional and abusive.
As a NAVY man lemme tell ya, fuck Annapolis. That kid is going to come back a fucked up woke commie unless they stick to their guns then they'll be weeded out. The brass doesn't want officers who think for themselves. They want good little nazis that will follow any order.
Exactly this. I'm like 5th gen military, 3rd gen Navy at least that I know of. I'd never give any of my children my blessing. Or a police officer for that matter.
In some ways this is a good thing. Government work should not be desirable. Stop telling kids it is a "good job", it should be low paying for people who are not really capable of anything better.
Each new government employee is one step closer to the Communist Ideal of Everyone working for the State.
Making government work suck is an unintended consequence of the current occupant of the White House, it is good for MAGA.
Do not get me wrong, every combat veteran has my gratitude, and my support. A small core of career military is needed, but wars are fought and won by part time solders in for the duration. If the duration is career length, it is no longer a war, it is something else.
Couldn't agree more. The irony is its the "career" guys leaving, retiring, or getting kicked out as fast as possible. It's almost like they're intentionally trying to cripple the core performance and experienced people in the military.
The ARMY had dropped the requirement for HS diploma. The NAVY is already placing people in billets out of rate/rank. The enlistment/re-enlistment numbers were so bad around 2010 they were stealing NAVY members and making us go on deployments with the ARMY. We weren't even allowed to wear our own uniforms. Why do you think all branches now have the same uniform? If you think joining the airforce for a desk job out of front line combat you may be sadly mistaken.
Korea, even if it technically never ended, has the benefit of being a war that's easy to point to as having a clear, definite enemy - Communists - and clear, definite benefits from having fought it - look at the very clear and distinct difference between North and South Korea and how it's a victory that's never been thrown away.
God wants you to help your neighbor not randoms halfway around the world. That's how you get hoodwinked by globohomo. If God wanted you to help those people he would have made you one of them. But you are here.
I think I saw an article a few years ago that said something like 80% of people in the military have parents, grand parents, or siblings that served. Basically called the military a small family business.
Most of the men in my family have served. I still have to remind myself that isn't the norm anymore.
I find that sad. The American military was mostly based even in recent years, so the assholes that now inhabit this site that hate both America and its Marines and soldiers can eat a bag of dicks.
I definitely understand why. I spoke with my mother today about what her father and his brothers would think about today's state of affairs; all of whom fought in WW2.
There's a reason the Bolsheviks are trying to get rid of America's traditional warrior class and replace them with the cruelest, dumbest transgender psychos they can hand a drone controller to.
Nah, OIF/OEF dads know better. There's no such thing as honorable service in their minds anymore after they got lied to. Try thanking one who served in combat position for their service.. they'll tell you almost every time, thanks for what? What did they accomplish?
I enlisted too. Went through meps, got my assignment for bt at fort Eustis. Two weeks before getting on that plane I had a major injury that required surgery. I tried hiding it. They wouldn't take me because of it. Even after the surgery was healed I tried. I was you. I saw 9/11 and enlisted my senior year.
I got out in 2005 and talk everyone I can out of joining. My kids intended on following in my footsteps, but I broke down to them who our military actually serves and how much gayer it is now.
Nobody in my family will join the military for any reason knowing what I have shared. If people from military families still want to join now it's because they are commie faggots or completely retarded and have no confidence or faith they can do something else with their lives.
The military is inherently chauvinist. It is the individual will to power writ large. Its entire function is to perpetuate material existence on this mortal plane; Staff it with neurotic existentialists with identity crises and it will self-destruct.
I'm mostly joking, its a Patton quote. I like it because I hate commies just that much. Fuck the Nazis, especially the SS... that should go without saying, but the majority of the German soldiers were good patriotic people that believed the propaganda and believed they were the good guys doing their part to protect their country. Germans were in large part good moral people thst can be reasoned with. I'd take the average German soldier from ww2 any day over a mindless, godless,, death cult commie fag.
I'm of mostly German heritage. Last name is still German even though my ancestors arrived here in the mid 1700s (the patriarch died in the revolutionary war at Valley Forge).
Germans were the largest group to immigrate here and more people of German descent live here now than live in Germany - a fact Germany is still low key proud of to this day.
I consider true American culture to be most closely related to German culture. Christianity and Christmas traditions as two prime examples.
The daily destruction of our culture and way of life is a constant weight on my soul. I could rant for hours on end.
I've lost the point of my tangent, but yes I agree that Germans (real Germans) are great people.
When I was younger, I, like most men, was drawn to the thought of adventure, the confidence that came with military training, and the respect you get from wearing that uniform.
Now that I'm older, I'm so glad I didn't spend 5 years of my life saluting, vaccuming sidewalks, being medically experimented on, jacking off in a shower with a bunch of sweaty dudes, and of course, never going on that adventure they promised.
In the end, I got my adventure from hard work and planning, I never had to kill anybody.
I gained self confidence by striving to be the best at my craft and by doing the most good for my neighbor.
I got respect from my reputation, not from some uniform.
I WISH we could still make people vacuum sidewalks. I had multiple airmen over the years who could have benefitted from cleaning the entire bathroom with a toothbrush. Unfortunately, that sort of shit hasn’t been allowed since at least 2005.
When I was working my way through college, I got a call from an army recruiter. They tried to get me to sign up. I told them I already had a job working at blockbuster video. They laughed at me. I hung up and never gave any recruiter the time of day again. Not sure why they think insulting hard working people is a good strategy.
You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels. It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!
Mattis and Miley have done serious damage to the entire armed forces reputation. The military isn't regarded as noble profession anymore in conservative communities.
$35k? FFS I wouldn't even get out of bed for what amounts to little more than min wage. They want people to risk their lives for an administration that hates them and has no issue with abandoning them, and only offers them peanuts?
Our soldiers, when they aren't being destroyed from the inside by woketards, deserve a lot more than the peanuts they get. Lets defund the Fed, IRS, FBI, CIA, NSA, ATF, Dept of Education (and others), and Congress, and give that money to our soldiers instead.
when I first went in, I got $390 a month plus a bed to sleep in and food, when I got out after 4 years, I was cooking with bacon grease $880 plus the other benefits a month, great times, cause I was getting laid for free, sometimes I was paid to!!! Most women back then liked a man in uniform, not no more
Essentially that’s a little under $17 an hour of a 40-hour work week. Doesn’t sound super appealing to sign over control of your life to a group of psychopaths and BS wars for such a little amount.
I definitely didn’t think you only worked 40 hours a week. I’m just putting it into perspective compared to other jobs. So the wage is even lower when you look at how many hours a week.
Honestly, flipping that sign is a better gig than getting fucked in the ass by brass day in and day out. I fucking hated my entire command. Their entire lives were dedicated to shitting on lower enlisted and in their fucking wildest imagination they couldn’t figure out why they had shit for soldier retention
Totally sounded like mine aswell. Idk who ever thought mando fundays were a good idea, but my last CO and Sgtmaj sure thought they were great. Retention was so bad they got their asses reamed by the MAG CG.
I retired from my nation's military, a full adult life of service. I advise all my younger cousins and my friends' sons to never join the military. Looking at my high school friends now, who had similar talents and interests to me, I realize I would have been richer, happier, and healthier had I become an entrepreneur or a tradesman instead.
When I got out in 98 it seemed like to make E-7 as a white guy you needed to have a spotless record, a ranger tab, and know somebody. As a minority, well just put in some time and you'd get it.
"hey kid, wanna go to the front lines in eastern europe with a bunch of psycho lib trannies and when you're in a bunker with bullets flying overhead and explosions going off everywhere, and all the people who have your back are worthless liberal psychopaths who are too busy yelling at each other because one of them said 'we're in deep shit man!' and it was misgendering and the only way you'll have a shot in hell of living is if you call in an airstrike, but you can't because the comms are completely tied up by 3 different liberal trannies arguing over preferred pronouns and then you get mercilessly killed but you'll get a cool $35,000 to pay for your funeral?"
I make 53k with good benefits and don't have to answer retarded questions from superiors with a straight face. The Army can indeed fuck off. This is a good life.
I unironically hold fast food workers in higher regard as they actually provide a service to people. Like, imagine seeing the Afghanistan exit not even a year ago and think "yeah, I'll join that!" Military is a mere guberment gibs program.
"Hey bud, how does it sound to quit your job, drop out of school, and go get blown to shit in Ukraine for 35k (25k after tax and 10k after bills, we won't mention record inflation)?!!!
Meanwhile, you'll have to go through unpleasant shit just to get over there. You'll be fighting to possibly start WWIII for a county that hates your white fucking guts and would have never let you have this job in the past for various reasons, but at least you'll know you've progress money laundering, pedophilia, death, Communism, tyranny, globalism, and death!!" - Basically, what the recruiter said but in a shorter way
35k is a fucking joke, That’s why he told him to fuck off. If you want a stressful job with woke idiots and someone screaming at you constantly for 35k just go be a Sous chef.
We offered him 35K to take a vaccine - risk his life; risk his life fighting for us; get indoctrinated into LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ. Flipping a sign is a better deal.
"Hello sir, how would you like to kill foreigners on the other side of the globe who are no threat to the US, in order to profit the military industrial complex and spend the rest of your life with PTSD, if you survive? Oh and if you do a great job at it don't worry, you'll never be promoted, because we only give promotions to trannies and diversity hires now."
Such an enthralling offer. I have no idea why the recruitment numbers are low!
There is no military anymore you fucking idiot. There are only guinea pig positions so you can be a fucking pin cushion for big pharma. Why would you join a fake military controlled by fucking slimy jews from israhell. America doesn't even print it's own fucking money so it does not control it's military. You are a slave to fucking kykes until you take action against them.
Trust me, the duck guy is doing just fine without the Army's faggotry and equity bullshit. 🦆👍
Hillary hired him for $100k because Donald ducks his taxes or something
Taxes are fags
Well said
Hunter Biden is an honorable man.
1040gay
LGBTQ-IRS
Kek
Fagmaxxed Taxcel
🤣 You think I could get away with sharing this comment on Facebook? Lol Ima try...
Taxes are theft.
Taxes are Bill Mitchell***
Tolls pay for roads too
Taxes also rig competition, turning the "free market" into a game of "bribe the politician"
lol - that brings back some memories. "Donald Ducks Taxes!"
Boy was that a cringe moment.
He then said he had information that would lead to the arrest of Hillary, after which he shot himself in the back of the head 4 times, and threw himself off a bridge :p
"Donald ducks" nice :D
You can also stay and then flip a sign all day and not die of Covid jab.
It’s worse than that…you can have literal HIV/AIDS and be deployable, but Lord forbid you don’t have the clot shot, because then you’re a major health risk.
tl;dr: Wuhan-flu is worse than ass-cancer, apparently
RIP combat medics.
Hope y'all got good gloves.
"Please join the military so you can die overseas protective anal sex and Israel's investments."
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I understood that reference. now I need to go shoot some space rocks for 16 hours.
"Not service related."
It's not even the woke BS, it's how they throw you under the Humvee if you make it back home!
Maybe if you didn't mis-species a trans duck as "man" you'd have better luck.
There is also that random bullshit middle east war that may pop off any decade based on lies.
May?
You know for a fact Biden will get us into some shit in 2023-2024 so that it can some how (????) be blamed on Trump
And everyone knows a president always gets re-elected during a war. Wait and see the war with Russia escalate around august/September this year, and really get ramped up around July 2024.
"You're not supporting your president during a time of war, what do you hate America or something?"
I can put up with that. I already did actually as a matter of fact
It’s already ramping up now.
Close but it has moved a bit south and west. Horn of Africa is the next 20 years.
Military is purposely being emasculated
Good, we don't need a military.
We need strong local state militias and a tiny military capable of mutually assured destruction of foreign enemies if need. No more world police, no more massive military globalist grift machine.
I agree. Military industrial complex has basically taken over the world. They’re probly what 1/4 -1/3rd of the entire global cabal? Then the pharmaceutical industrial complex all tied together with the banking industrial complex
I think the military industrial complex was used to set up trafficking trade routes. For running guns, drugs, men, women and children.
That was certainly part of it. Black budgets need MASSIVE amounts of black money
B-but- :"the military is the only way"!?!?
Military-industrial complex and pharmaceutical-industrial complex at least produce something, unlike the banking complex.
We don't need a federal govt at least one as big as this one.
those were emasculated by Bill Clinton back in the 90s.
That's fine because the people will become the military then.
yep everyone take a hint, you know what you have to do.
Not only will they be unable to find new recruits, they have fucked the on es they have with their jab. Wait until there is some sort of action, with soldiers collapsing on the battlefield like sports stars.
Which doesn't make sense if you think about it. Who is going to protect the elites when we finally come for their heads?
The elites plan to get in their private jets and fly off to another country. They're not masterminds, they just have a vague set of goals they want to accomplish through indirect influence.
Whether those countries will play nice with them is another matter.
New Zealand will definitely be part of the elites' Plan B. That's why the kiwis were recently disarmed. The citizenry used to have very respectable gun rights before Christchurch...
The counterpoint to the kiwi-question is that all of NZ can probably be militarily conquered by the average texan family in the space of a single afternoon. Those hobbit holes will not be comfortable for too long, the hunt will be on.
New Zealand still has a military and the elites still have security. Just the population has been disarmed.
New Zealand is amazingly easy to defend especially with an air force and naval force. Amphibious landings are very very risky. England to Normandy was about 50 nautical miles. China to Taiwan would be about 75.
Closest point in Australia to New Zealand is about 2,100 nautical miles. That's a lot of time and distance with your ground forces and logistics sitting in vulnerable transport ships.
That’s why you invade it with “refugees.”
If the crux of what you are saying is 'if there was a substantive military to defend it, it would be defensible', then what you are also saying is, its not defensible.
Where do you think this theoretical defending military will be conjured from, if the entire world (including the US) is out for blood and the highest value enemies of the world are hiding out in the hills near Wellington or Auckland? China? They would want the common enemies dead too. Ditto Russia. Europe? Nowhere is further away from the EU than NZ, and they can arguably not even defend their own interests let alone anywhere else.
No amphibious transports have ever been sunk by wishful thinking, no cruise missiles have ever been waved away by holding hands and singing. And its not going to happen in this scenario.
"privileges"
At the end of the day, Elites are basically underpants gnomes.
What's step two?
Thought that was fau-xi? Or is he just a different species of underpants gnome?
Awesome South Park episode!
UN troops regularly get their asses kicked by 3rd world militias.
Some day in the future you'll be able to buy UN blue helmets at a flea market near you.
They may or may not have a hole in them.
It certainly needs to be de-bloated.
It just seems like money is being wasted all over right now,
and you could have a fighting force as effective for 50% of the money at least.
Everything govt related needs to be debloated and trimmed.
And some agencies just need to be disbanded.
At Chyna's bequest 10% for Pedo Joe
The vax situation has caused me to never trust the government or military for any reason ever. existential crisis? Im fighting for myself and my family. A government that feels entitled to interfere in my personal health is a criminal organization and must be brought to justice, not martyred for.
BTW, shame shitbag faggots will look you in the eye and demand "my body, my choice" when it comes to abortion
I wonder if there ever comes a point where they will implement a mandatory service draft again.
Good luck with that, most Americans aren’t fit for military service anymore.
they won't care. They will come up with some weird set of rules that lets them draft whoever they hate.
Myocarditis, no problem we'll give you drugs to keep your heart rate down on the battlefield.
Keep in mind recruiters are pretty much just mid level NCOs who get told they're doing recruiting duty. They have no control over any of the woke crap they just get orders to meet a quota and if they dont big army shits on them.
There's only a few years left to cut rank and file troops a break. Anyone still in soon will have reenlisted after the POTATUS got in office. That means they had a choice to serve under the potato and chose to do so. Zero respect for anyone who passes up an opportunity to leave the military under this idiot.
Leave the military, join your state's national guard etc
Get local, fuck the federal government.
I believe State Guards still exist in about 1/2 the states. I wish I knew of them when I was younger. Avoid the Coast Guard unless you want to patrol the Iranian coast...
Florida is spinning up our militia.
They are tiny and are unarmed. I serve in one.
Joining the Reserves or the National Guard no longer protects a soldier from deployment to a theatre of combat. Look at how many R and NG were deployed during the Global War on Terror. At the height of the war, NG and R were called up and deployed for eight to ten months at a time for some specialties.
And that's the way it was from around 2003 thru 2012. Almost no NG or Reserve unit wasn't activated sometime during that time period. Many of them were activated over and over and over again.
Nat Guard is federal. They took that over while you were sleeping.
And do what fucking stand around twice a week. Attack the fed or fuck off.
There’s a thing called “involuntary contract extension.” Or Stop Loss. They will be using that regularly soon if they aren’t already.
Yeah so go ahead and sign your life away to fight for the globalist pedos somewhere, because otherwise the recruiter might have weak numbers.
I'm not telling anyone to enlist, in fact i would strongly advise against it, I'm just pointing out it's unnecessary to shit on recruiters because they aren't in control of any of it.
No, they deserve to get shit on. They're motivated by advances they get for every recruit and they're often shitheads who somehow can't be slapped with a sep code. I can tell you've never served by your naivete.
Former Navy E4.
Was army E-4, from what i understood you get sent orders for recruiter duty when you're between E-6 and E-8 based on needs of the army and you're expected to just meet the quotas. I dont know a lot about how things work, i knew pretty early on that the military was going to shit and got out.
E-5 through E-7 were selected for recruiting duty just like they could get selected for drill sergeant if they didn’t get enough volunteers. If you’re a shitty recruiter you get sent back to the regular Army as an ineffective recruiter early rather than having to do three years. Of course, you may get sent back with a shitty evaluation so you can forget ever getting promoted past E-6 or E-7 depending on what you left as.
You could flat out refuse as some of the people here are suggesting but that is still disobeying a lawful order. You’ll have to make the personal determination if you want to end your career like that (not an easy decision if you have mouths to feed at home and no post-military plan). If leadership in recruiting wanted to take it far enough they could try to hit you with UCMJ on the way out which could fuck you in the civilian sector with some jobs due to the criminal conviction if it goes to a court-martial.
Yet they bring in suckers into the pedo Joe and general military complex cult, and we are supposed to feel sorry for them?
It functions like a religion for some people.
Thats one way to look at it i guess, but honestly even as fucked as things are i don't regret the time i spent in and it remains one of the defining parts of my life. I think most people who serve feel that way despite how much of a clusterfuck things become.
That's like saying Ghislaine Maxwell just had a job and she wasn't in control. Ok, she wasn't in control but she was complicit.
Just like recruiters, she was bringing fresh meat to be sacrificed for the powerful.
If a recruiting NCO is stuck in the army and can't get out of his contract, just refuse the jab and he's out. Simple. So I don't buy the premise that these poor NCOs are stuck there just doing a job.
They're complicit in bringing naive young men into an institution that hates them and views them as disposable. If they actually recruit anyone, they're complicit.
Recruiters are worse than Covid-19
Well covid is just a mild cold sooooo
Fuck the military. Why the huge hard on for the military. Haven’t fought for “freedom” since WWII
Just a bunch of boot lickers
Literal henchmen of the deep state
Hoooold up there buddy, EUROPE ain't AMERICA...it was more like the Mexican-American border wars when the US military last fought to protect the US.
Korean War?
I don't think World War II was about freedom either. we only got involved when we got attacked, that doesn't mean there was a reason for it.
I guess I must have imagined the existence of South Korea.
Didn't even fight for freedom in WW2. That's fake news also.
Because despite how fucked up it's become the military helped shape me into the person I am today.
That’s called being a child.
If you have to do what daddy says or else your a child.
That is literally what the military is. You follow orders or you get fucked. You should know that even if you haven't served.
That’s my point.
Developing free will is an important thing.
What about being sent to the middle east based on lies part lol.
Kids in military families still want to join the military
That's sad.
I know lots of military families and I don't know a single one who supports their kids joining. Everyone I know is strongly discouraging it.
Because of Iraq and Afghanistan?
Well the Afghanistan pull out debacle 8s part of it. But the biggest reasons are the woke BS and the clot shot.
Still sad, one of my associates' mothers was going on about her granddaughter joining the Marines. She also buys the Russia bad propaganda because she's Polish.
Served 8 years in the army under Clinton when things started changing. I now live in a military town and regularly deal with servicemembers. Comparing my personal experience with what these guys tell me now:
They'll chapter your ass out for things they would have just given you an Article 15 for in the past.
The wars are never ending. When I was in we had Panama lol. Now we have guys who spent fucking years in the middle east.
That fucking clot shot. I just talked to a guy last week who seemed like a good soldier but who was getting chaptered for refusing the shot. Even now they're trying to force him to get the shot.
Hard to be motivated when your commander in chief is a senile liar and the generals and admirals are an assortment of perverted retards.
idk. When I was in it felt like a very dysfunctional and abusive family but still a family. Now it just seems dysfunctional and abusive.
Couldn't agree more. Morale is at an all time low and I think its on purpose.
Don't forget SHART. Women everywhere targeting men.
Just told my buddy’s kid not to go to Annapolis. Alas, they just dropped him off. Sad!
As a NAVY man lemme tell ya, fuck Annapolis. That kid is going to come back a fucked up woke commie unless they stick to their guns then they'll be weeded out. The brass doesn't want officers who think for themselves. They want good little nazis that will follow any order.
Hear hear!
What is the last war your family fought in that you were convinced was necessary?
Exactly this. I'm like 5th gen military, 3rd gen Navy at least that I know of. I'd never give any of my children my blessing. Or a police officer for that matter.
In some ways this is a good thing. Government work should not be desirable. Stop telling kids it is a "good job", it should be low paying for people who are not really capable of anything better.
Each new government employee is one step closer to the Communist Ideal of Everyone working for the State.
Making government work suck is an unintended consequence of the current occupant of the White House, it is good for MAGA.
Do not get me wrong, every combat veteran has my gratitude, and my support. A small core of career military is needed, but wars are fought and won by part time solders in for the duration. If the duration is career length, it is no longer a war, it is something else.
Couldn't agree more. The irony is its the "career" guys leaving, retiring, or getting kicked out as fast as possible. It's almost like they're intentionally trying to cripple the core performance and experienced people in the military.
Nope. Clot shot. Not worth it.
There are active duty Air Force pilots laid up in hospitals from the clot shot exploding in their circulatory system at high altitude.
Same goes for regular airline pilots & flight staff having a similar reaction.
That just means it’s working!
The ARMY had dropped the requirement for HS diploma. The NAVY is already placing people in billets out of rate/rank. The enlistment/re-enlistment numbers were so bad around 2010 they were stealing NAVY members and making us go on deployments with the ARMY. We weren't even allowed to wear our own uniforms. Why do you think all branches now have the same uniform? If you think joining the airforce for a desk job out of front line combat you may be sadly mistaken.
Korea, even if it technically never ended, has the benefit of being a war that's easy to point to as having a clear, definite enemy - Communists - and clear, definite benefits from having fought it - look at the very clear and distinct difference between North and South Korea and how it's a victory that's never been thrown away.
You can literally see the difference from space lol
Kinda but South Korea is getting infused with feminism, genital mutilation and other degeneracy from America.
Grenada
Jesus saved us so we can save and help one another, not so we can pray for Revelations to happen for every responsibility to be taken off our plate.
God wants you to help your neighbor not randoms halfway around the world. That's how you get hoodwinked by globohomo. If God wanted you to help those people he would have made you one of them. But you are here.
I think I saw an article a few years ago that said something like 80% of people in the military have parents, grand parents, or siblings that served. Basically called the military a small family business.
Most of the men in my family have served. I still have to remind myself that isn't the norm anymore.
I find that sad. The American military was mostly based even in recent years, so the assholes that now inhabit this site that hate both America and its Marines and soldiers can eat a bag of dicks.
Just retired. I will not encourage my children to join
I definitely understand why. I spoke with my mother today about what her father and his brothers would think about today's state of affairs; all of whom fought in WW2.
Furious would not begin to describe it.
Uh, yeah dude. We live under a coup actively maligning civilians.
Americans don't deserve to invoke freedom fighting under any context if they're not willing to partake when it's actually needed.
Is it though, when the military is stressing that people don't join themselves, under a fraudulent "CiC?"
Most people here don't hate either. People are just really pissed off at the state of the country right now.
Cuts to the core of me Baxter!
No doubt many fine young great souls inhabit the us military, especially in the non flag (political) ranks.
There's a reason the Bolsheviks are trying to get rid of America's traditional warrior class and replace them with the cruelest, dumbest transgender psychos they can hand a drone controller to.
That’s probably true for 80% of people. Who doesn’t have a grandad or an uncle who served?
The entire modern Democrat base?
"Here's why that's bad"
Nah, OIF/OEF dads know better. There's no such thing as honorable service in their minds anymore after they got lied to. Try thanking one who served in combat position for their service.. they'll tell you almost every time, thanks for what? What did they accomplish?
That's the point I make. I put >10% off my adult life in those shit hole countries and we accomplished nothing.
I enlisted too. Went through meps, got my assignment for bt at fort Eustis. Two weeks before getting on that plane I had a major injury that required surgery. I tried hiding it. They wouldn't take me because of it. Even after the surgery was healed I tried. I was you. I saw 9/11 and enlisted my senior year.
I just thank the tax payer for paying for my ammo
I got out in 2005 and talk everyone I can out of joining. My kids intended on following in my footsteps, but I broke down to them who our military actually serves and how much gayer it is now.
Nobody in my family will join the military for any reason knowing what I have shared. If people from military families still want to join now it's because they are commie faggots or completely retarded and have no confidence or faith they can do something else with their lives.
The purpose of the military is to kill the enemy for the good of one's nation.
Young to middle aged men are the best fighting machines on the planet.
All they need to fight is a just cause.
Other demographics are not only a distraction, they also require woke ideologies to attract them to the military in the first place.
All of which detract from the aforementioned purpose of the military - to kill the enemy.
Keep anyone who is not a fighting aged male away from the battlefield, only pursue just engagements, and the recruiting offices will fill themselves.
This should be common sense.
These same men are being told that they ARE the enemy. "The nation" is a threat to the Jerks who own the planet.
And in multiple ways. They're white supremacists, they exhibit toxic masculinity...
The military is inherently chauvinist. It is the individual will to power writ large. Its entire function is to perpetuate material existence on this mortal plane; Staff it with neurotic existentialists with identity crises and it will self-destruct.
"I have the right to exist"
"Are you sure about that"
Oddly everything worth fighting for is right here at home!
I still believe we should never have stopped stomping commie asses here at home and abroad.
We fought the wrong enemy in WW2, change my mind.
This is where we disagree, and thats ok because I dont feel like arguing today.
Fuck the nazis and the commies. We should have finished the job after handing Hitler his ass.
I'm mostly joking, its a Patton quote. I like it because I hate commies just that much. Fuck the Nazis, especially the SS... that should go without saying, but the majority of the German soldiers were good patriotic people that believed the propaganda and believed they were the good guys doing their part to protect their country. Germans were in large part good moral people thst can be reasoned with. I'd take the average German soldier from ww2 any day over a mindless, godless,, death cult commie fag.
I'm of mostly German heritage. Last name is still German even though my ancestors arrived here in the mid 1700s (the patriarch died in the revolutionary war at Valley Forge).
Germans were the largest group to immigrate here and more people of German descent live here now than live in Germany - a fact Germany is still low key proud of to this day.
I consider true American culture to be most closely related to German culture. Christianity and Christmas traditions as two prime examples.
The daily destruction of our culture and way of life is a constant weight on my soul. I could rant for hours on end.
I've lost the point of my tangent, but yes I agree that Germans (real Germans) are great people.
I'm of German ancestry also. Go to german festivals regularly and even speak German. My family was german machinists that came here in the 1800s.
Just remember man you are no Scot.
Read up on the Venona papers, see what you notice, then realize why we stopped.
Quite the (((trend))) on that list.
When I was younger, I, like most men, was drawn to the thought of adventure, the confidence that came with military training, and the respect you get from wearing that uniform.
Now that I'm older, I'm so glad I didn't spend 5 years of my life saluting, vaccuming sidewalks, being medically experimented on, jacking off in a shower with a bunch of sweaty dudes, and of course, never going on that adventure they promised.
In the end, I got my adventure from hard work and planning, I never had to kill anybody.
I gained self confidence by striving to be the best at my craft and by doing the most good for my neighbor.
I got respect from my reputation, not from some uniform.
I have no regrets
I WISH we could still make people vacuum sidewalks. I had multiple airmen over the years who could have benefitted from cleaning the entire bathroom with a toothbrush. Unfortunately, that sort of shit hasn’t been allowed since at least 2005.
Not to mention irreparable emotional trauma. Lots of dudes got that pretty bad.
Frens, please discourage any kids you know from joining today's military.
No reason to die for the Uniparty to get richer.
Or for the global homo military industrial complex.
When I was working my way through college, I got a call from an army recruiter. They tried to get me to sign up. I told them I already had a job working at blockbuster video. They laughed at me. I hung up and never gave any recruiter the time of day again. Not sure why they think insulting hard working people is a good strategy.
Bet they recruit tranny ducks now.
They don’t just recruit them. They make them officers.
My company is getting so woke that the sign flipping job is starting to sound good.
Maybe if the military was actually trying to protect the country and its citizens, then folks would join
Recruiters in 2022 be like
Mattis and Miley have done serious damage to the entire armed forces reputation. The military isn't regarded as noble profession anymore in conservative communities.
Go ask Ukraine for some military money so you can afford to pay more than sign twirler wages
To be clear they offered him a paying job and a 35k bonus. He still told them to pound sand.
$35k? FFS I wouldn't even get out of bed for what amounts to little more than min wage. They want people to risk their lives for an administration that hates them and has no issue with abandoning them, and only offers them peanuts?
Our soldiers, when they aren't being destroyed from the inside by woketards, deserve a lot more than the peanuts they get. Lets defund the Fed, IRS, FBI, CIA, NSA, ATF, Dept of Education (and others), and Congress, and give that money to our soldiers instead.
$35k is likely the enlistment bonus on top of wage. According to adverts, it goes up to $50k nowadays.
when I first went in, I got $390 a month plus a bed to sleep in and food, when I got out after 4 years, I was cooking with bacon grease $880 plus the other benefits a month, great times, cause I was getting laid for free, sometimes I was paid to!!! Most women back then liked a man in uniform, not no more
Essentially that’s a little under $17 an hour of a 40-hour work week. Doesn’t sound super appealing to sign over control of your life to a group of psychopaths and BS wars for such a little amount.
I was in for 20 and never once worked only 40 hours a week unless I was on leave.
I definitely didn’t think you only worked 40 hours a week. I’m just putting it into perspective compared to other jobs. So the wage is even lower when you look at how many hours a week.
McDonald's is paying that nearby
Remember julis ceasar giving his men land?? Whatever happened to that??
Gee I wonder why the fuck nobody would trust this government enough to sign up to defend it.
Hmmmm... real head scratcher.
They sure are too timid to assert that government is illegitimate though.
"Fuck Joseph Xiden but he IS MY PRENISIDENT"
Maybe young American men don't want to take orders from people like Lloyd Austin.
Honestly, flipping that sign is a better gig than getting fucked in the ass by brass day in and day out. I fucking hated my entire command. Their entire lives were dedicated to shitting on lower enlisted and in their fucking wildest imagination they couldn’t figure out why they had shit for soldier retention
Totally sounded like mine aswell. Idk who ever thought mando fundays were a good idea, but my last CO and Sgtmaj sure thought they were great. Retention was so bad they got their asses reamed by the MAG CG.
I retired from my nation's military, a full adult life of service. I advise all my younger cousins and my friends' sons to never join the military. Looking at my high school friends now, who had similar talents and interests to me, I realize I would have been richer, happier, and healthier had I become an entrepreneur or a tradesman instead.
I got out at 12 years in ‘18. All they care about is minorities now.
As for the plans for this nation's future, the writing's on the wall.
When I got out in 98 it seemed like to make E-7 as a white guy you needed to have a spotless record, a ranger tab, and know somebody. As a minority, well just put in some time and you'd get it.
Turns out we don't want to fight for bankers and faggots.
"hey kid, wanna go to the front lines in eastern europe with a bunch of psycho lib trannies and when you're in a bunker with bullets flying overhead and explosions going off everywhere, and all the people who have your back are worthless liberal psychopaths who are too busy yelling at each other because one of them said 'we're in deep shit man!' and it was misgendering and the only way you'll have a shot in hell of living is if you call in an airstrike, but you can't because the comms are completely tied up by 3 different liberal trannies arguing over preferred pronouns and then you get mercilessly killed but you'll get a cool $35,000 to pay for your funeral?"
Freedom from grammar… and I love it
I make 53k with good benefits and don't have to answer retarded questions from superiors with a straight face. The Army can indeed fuck off. This is a good life.
Maybe if the U.S. Military actually guarded the U.S. from foreign invasion, you might see those numbers tick up by several million.
After a Biden executive order on 2020, sex change surgeries are free for military service members.
Try offering a free sex change, and you’re bound to get some nice tranny recruits
That are worthless for anything that you'd actually need a military for.
Yeah they'll herniate their guts through their pustulent front holes should they attempt anything actually difficult yet necessary on deployment.
Buy the good stuff man...
I don't envy their position but agree with the sentiment of get woke go broke.
I unironically hold fast food workers in higher regard as they actually provide a service to people. Like, imagine seeing the Afghanistan exit not even a year ago and think "yeah, I'll join that!" Military is a mere guberment gibs program.
Good to know once the best military in the world is now begging sign flippers to join.
Oh I don't know, maybe more feminist indoctrination and proper pronouns will fix it.
I guess flipping a sign in a duck costume doesn't require you to get injected with lethal poison.
My 20 year old son is half way through his mechatronic engineering degree and has talked about joining the Marines and going OCS when he's done.
I told him that unless things change in America, I will shoot him in the leg myself to prevent him from serving.
$35k a year? I went through that on a single gun run. Not including gas. How about offer more money and be more selective?
Oops. My bad. This is army, not Marines.
If I'm reading it correctly, the 35k was a bonus, in addition to whatever the job was paying.
I think that might actually be the pay but I had read it the same way you did
https://www.goarmy.com/benefits/money/basic-pay-active-duty-soldiers.html
Holy shit that's depressing.
Sounds like the Quick Ship Bonus.
SHOULD HAVE FLIPPED THEM THE BIRD
He probably gets all the lemonade he wants and flips a sign like a motherfucker.
"Hey bud, how does it sound to quit your job, drop out of school, and go get blown to shit in Ukraine for 35k (25k after tax and 10k after bills, we won't mention record inflation)?!!!
Meanwhile, you'll have to go through unpleasant shit just to get over there. You'll be fighting to possibly start WWIII for a county that hates your white fucking guts and would have never let you have this job in the past for various reasons, but at least you'll know you've progress money laundering, pedophilia, death, Communism, tyranny, globalism, and death!!" - Basically, what the recruiter said but in a shorter way
This veteran just points and laughs when I hear about their recruiting failures.
Fuck recruiters.
Same. Fuckers had it coming.
35k is a fucking joke, That’s why he told him to fuck off. If you want a stressful job with woke idiots and someone screaming at you constantly for 35k just go be a Sous chef.
35k is the bonus.
Why would anyone voluntarily join the military? The gig is up. Nobody with half a brain wants to die in globalist wars for people like Joe Biden.
that's were the draft will come back, and they have been discussing that, trannies and gays first, then the can say they fought for their rights
I'd rather wear a duck costume and spin a sign than go to Ukraine for Uncle Joe's PC war.
Plot twist, duck guy was already discharged because he refused to take the clot shot.
We offered him 35K to take a vaccine - risk his life; risk his life fighting for us; get indoctrinated into LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ. Flipping a sign is a better deal.
"Hello sir, how would you like to kill foreigners on the other side of the globe who are no threat to the US, in order to profit the military industrial complex and spend the rest of your life with PTSD, if you survive? Oh and if you do a great job at it don't worry, you'll never be promoted, because we only give promotions to trannies and diversity hires now."
Such an enthralling offer. I have no idea why the recruitment numbers are low!
Based duck.
So the Army is now actively recruiting high school drop out furries? Race to the bottom going great!
There is no military anymore you fucking idiot. There are only guinea pig positions so you can be a fucking pin cushion for big pharma. Why would you join a fake military controlled by fucking slimy jews from israhell. America doesn't even print it's own fucking money so it does not control it's military. You are a slave to fucking kykes until you take action against them.
The army should get rid of all non officer positions and replace everything with automation.
I should not have to pay for retard Jamal to move around cargo when a robot could do it twice as well
Real Americans will defend it themselves if needed. Fuck the woke military.
Missed opportunity to say "duck off"