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CmonGubMintGibMe 243 points ago +246 / -3

Even the churches have been infiltrated by leftist faggots.... God help us.

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MythArcana [S] 128 points ago +128 / -0

Yes, yes they have. And some like the Methodists got a head start before anyone knew what woke even was.

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Aoikaze2000 80 points ago +80 / -0

That's why the Methodist church is either losing the non-woke churches or going to be splitting where the Bible based ones leave the woke ones.

Having grown up Methodist, I can tell you that the woke pastors are utter garbage and wouldn't know what a Bible was if they were standing at the pulpit.

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Oback_Barama 123 points ago +123 / -0

Hint: if your church is supporting killing babies, it’s not Christ that they consider King.

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Stolen 34 points ago +34 / -0

Mainline Churches are now calling Christians Demonic. Welcome to the rapture.

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Throwingway22 23 points ago +23 / -0

Time for another crusade.

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DJTrump 21 points ago +21 / -0

The next crusade will be fought by the hosts of Heaven. So it'll be won quite easily, when the time comes.

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Throwingway22 15 points ago +15 / -0

No one can no the time nor the place. Waiting on heaven to fight your battles for you isn't pious by any means.

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FloridaMan1776 7 points ago +7 / -0

Deus Vult brother!

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SeawolfEmeralds 16 points ago +16 / -0

Thanks I was just about to hide the 1st comment and go searching for something that could clarify the l path

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BeNotAfraid 12 points ago +13 / -1

There is - and always has been and always will be - one church. She is not a denomination, an organization, or hierarchy, She is the Bride of Christ. You're admitted by the blood of the Lamb, and she shall never be overcome. She will be persecuted, maligned, and infiltrated, but she remains intact until the Bridegroom come for her. Maranatha!

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AlGonkwin 6 points ago +6 / -0

It’s the “infiltrated but intact” thing which seems to present the biggest practical difficulty. Nobody ever goes the extra step and explains how something can be “infiltrated” so that the positions of power are filled by evil men who change the doctrine, so when one approaches one confronts both heterodoxy and hereropraxis…but still “intact”. It would seem that any definition of “intact” which made room for wrong preaching and wrong worship is a useless definition of “intact”.

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BeNotAfraid 5 points ago +6 / -1

I see what you mean. It's because the Body of Christ is not a visible organization. There is a difference between believing Christians and professing Christians. Visible congregations contain the church, but not everyone sitting in a pew on Sunday morning is a true believer. Christ knows those who are His, and will keep them for Himself.

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rayrax -1 points ago +1 / -2

Communism in a nut shell.. It's always the end of the world. There's always a "coming". And you fake "Christians" have been pussified into hiding in your closets and allowing evil to flourish.

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kr0m 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol, subverted. the catholic church was created as a power structure, with a hierarchy of centralized leadership, from the beginning. fundamental tenant of being an american conservative is considering government a necessary evil, with emphasis on the evil, implying you want to keep it minimized. it's why we favor states rights over tyrannical federal control.

the catholic church IS a government. it always has been. with governments, it's not a question of IF it becomes corrupt. it's a question of WHEN. and with the catholic church, it was corrupt at the moment of its inception.

also the the idea that somehow the protestant churches are more into mysticism is weird since the catholic church just made shit up for their lore, that isn't in the bible. hell they practically canonized dante's inferno, a fucking work of fiction. they worship saints and keep body parts of them to fucking idolize? molesting boys and covering up and protecting the priests by using their corrupt ties with city officials to just be allowed to move the priest somewhere else so he can fuck more boys. the idea that the catholic church had to be 'subverted' when it's just a force of fucking evil, is hilarious.

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rayrax 1 point ago +1 / -0

You've only read the communist version of history.

They openly brag about Pius XII being the last "christian" pope.. etc.. You're an ignoramus.

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kr0m 1 point ago +1 / -0

oh ok.

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potbelliedgoblino 31 points ago +31 / -0

The reason the younger generations are leaving God and the church in catastrophic droves is because of the churches. It’s like going to a kindergarten class as an adult. Our ancient ancestors would walk out of the majority of modern churches and be appalled we call that religion and spirituality, including Jesus. His word wasn’t mean for you to get a pat on the head like a dog once a week.

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wat_meme 25 points ago +25 / -0

Our pastor calls it the "10 points to living a more godly life" sermons. Little scripture, lots of anecdotes and lines from "popular" authors.

People need to find a church that does expository preaching.

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DJTrump 15 points ago +15 / -0

Teaching should be bible based. All of it. There's only 1 book needed.

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MythArcana [S] 4 points ago +5 / -1

It's comical how some of these denominations have "supplement material" that go with the Bible (which is probably edited heavily anyway). I'm thinking of Mormonism and the Presbyterians off the top of my head.

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kr0m 2 points ago +2 / -0

it's comical how people even consider mormonism a 'denomination' of christianity in the first place. calling that shit 'supplementary material' is putting it lightly. everyone gets their own planet when they die? some guy just talks to god and writes down new rules?

that's typically called a fucking cult. there are a lot of christian based/christian spin off cults. like the one River Phoenix and his sisters/brothers grew up in. where the cult leader bases his bullshit off of christianity. we call them cults. but for some reason, we call mormonism a sect or denomination. what a fucking joke.

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Destineed369 4 points ago +5 / -1

Look I have faith in the lord too but this is a stupid take. Unless I am misunderstanding you. How do you teach geometry and calculus or chemistry or any by using only the Bible? Or did you mean the only religious book needed was the Bible? In that case I’d still disagree.

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Long_time_lurker 4 points ago +5 / -1

I think they mean the only one used in a sermon.

That said, there are 66 books in the canon and several more deuterocanonical works. If you haven't, read Sirach sometime, in particular.

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Guruchild 5 points ago +7 / -2

Orthodox.

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wat_meme 3 points ago +4 / -1

Or Reformed.

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TrumpBump333 2 points ago +3 / -1

All Bibles are by the Catholic Church. I wager King James merely translated it to English.

Source: Council of Carthage 397AD

Please come back to the true Church, people.

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Morris_The_Grey 1 point ago +1 / -0

King James was a genius. He had two groups of monks and scholars work on a translation much to the chagrin of the Vatican. Then the two groups came together to compare their work and compile their translated Bible. The monks also study earlier translated Bibles from monks who were of course tortured and imprisoned by the Vatican in the past.

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wat_meme 0 points ago +1 / -1

All Bibles are written by the men God chose to write His words. King James translated his own version. Wycliffe was the first to translate the Bible into english from the Latin Vulgate. Tyndale first translated the Bible into english from the original languages.

That the Bible was not available for the common man for so long is a travesty.

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AQuietVoice 1 point ago +2 / -1

Lutheran Church Missouri Synod

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wat_meme 1 point ago +2 / -1

My husband went to one several years ago and although he disagreed with a few smaller things, he said that reverend brought the Word every week.

At this point we should also include the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA).

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AQuietVoice 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am an LCMS Pastor, and I have said that the day my denomination embraces wokeness as a synodical policy is the day I become a Lutheran sectarian.

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DiscoverAFire 1 point ago +1 / -0

PCUSA is leftist garbage. Married homosexual pastors, abortion as a sacrament, everything above the church level is ruled by leftist pastors who can't find a church that would tolerate them. Our church wanted to leave the denomination, and we had to buy the church land from them, despite the land being donated to the church by our members 150 years ago.

I was pushing the leadership to give PCUSA the finger, but they are too conflict-avoidant.

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Bidens_leg_hair 1 point ago +1 / -0

SSPX is in schism. Try the FSSP

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Dictator_Bob 16 points ago +16 / -0

Grandma was a Methodist. So I'm partial and wanted to find a new Methodist church here in town. I look up my local one and they've converted to a Pride Parade with a woke pastor who has pictures of himself and his wokeness everywhere.

I just want to study the Bible. Not be preached to about accepting fetishes and letting kids be cut up. I don't care about the fetishes except that belongs out of government and in the bedroom. I am willing to fight for that alone because it is wrong to push sexuality on other people all the time, not just some of the time or for gays.

For the kids though? I'm grinding up millstones and I have one for that pastor now.

This isn't ok and the Methodist schism needs to happen.

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vongregormench 19 points ago +19 / -0

I don’t care about the fetishes

Except you’re talking about a church organization. The Bible is filled with statements about sexual immorality and how it is sinful. You should never be a part of a church that goes against god’s directions.

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Dictator_Bob 3 points ago +9 / -6

I still don't care about your fetishes dude. I'm not going to. It's not my business nor will it be. No matter how much you want me to quote verse on the topic: keep your dick in your pants and out of my face or I will knock you out, period.

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Destineed369 1 point ago +3 / -2

I agree here though. I have zero interest in other people’s sex lives. The fact that anyone thinks other people have any interest in their sex life blows my mind. Even more so when that persons identity revolves around their sex life.

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Dictator_Bob 2 points ago +2 / -0

And then they demand it be codified in law and impressed upon all others without their consent: they are mandating sexual assault through civics. It is why we rightly call them lunatics and not liberals. There's no peace here and no political solution. Which is why our adversaries are promoting this as they do not want a political solution they want our nation to break apart.

It is why the Russians spent so much money on LGBTQIA+++ and BLM. Even Mueller reported on that.

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DixMcCoy 10 points ago +10 / -0

This isn't ok and the Methodist schism needs to happen.

Oh, I have an idea, you can write a list of complaints...and nail them to their door, like a Protestant? I'm sure the irony would be lost on them, though.

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Dictator_Bob 3 points ago +3 / -0

I am already planning on this.

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Destineed369 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don’t disagree with some of your statements. However, why do you need a church to study the Bible and teachings of Christ? Religion has always been a control tool. It has left the faithful behind, much like the democrat party has left behind classical liberals. Your faith isn’t in a building, although I do get wanting to be near those of similar thought.

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Dictator_Bob 3 points ago +3 / -0

temple ye are

Ok sure and when among two others to worship He is present and the church has a foundation. We should still seek out fellowship; the sabbath was made for man.

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vongregormench 6 points ago +6 / -0

I have seen Methodist churches go independent or create other affiliations to get out of a church that condones sin.

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DRKMSTR 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've seen good methodist churches (they explain their methods don't make them "more saved" but they do it out of respect and to use actions to physically remind them of different things)

I've seen bad methodist churches....well, everyone has seen a bad one.

Thankfully good ones still exist.

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nomoreprinkles 7 points ago +7 / -0

Our neighborhood Baptist church loved spouting "turn the other cheek!" during the violent homicidal riots. Willing to bet Jesus wouldn't have asked his followers to perish from the earth.

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okboomer59 13 points ago +13 / -0

Sell your coat and buy a glock

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MythArcana [S] 6 points ago +7 / -1

I'll tell you what, things were much easier to understand in the Old Testament having to deal with this stuff. We could all debate for hours about what to do be doing by reading the New Testament. I'm kind of the flaming sword type myself, and it's difficult to feel love for your enemy when they are doing what we see today.

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Prussian_Pepe 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'll tell you what, things were much easier to understand in the Old Testament having to deal with this stuff.

What part of the old testament? The rules that the Levites wrote down? Like how it's wrong to eat pork? Or wear clothing of mixed materials or how to shave your head? Or the part were the many prophets all get murdered by the Jewish leaders for telling them that they have fallen away from God? That they are worshiping false gods and ideas. And that they were literally worse than Sodom ever was. Which part? Cherry picking is a bitch. Because no normal human has ever full-filled the law, so all of humanity should just be condemned and destroyed if we are following the law. I guess that's easy, Gonna pull out a flaming sword, might as well fall on it yourself first, because you're a sinner too.

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MythArcana [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Here is an example of my point:

Old Testament:

Exodus 21:23-25 "But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."

Leviticus 24:19-21 "Anyone who injures their neighbor is to be injured in the same manner: fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. The one who has inflicted the injury must suffer the same injury."

New Testament:

Matthew 5:38-39 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Romans 12:17-19 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”

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DJTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

King David had too much blood on his hands to be able to build the temple. All that killing was justified though it wasn't like he had sinned, he did what needed doing. He just couldn't build the temple.

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MythArcana [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

King David really blew it with Bathsheba and what he did to gain her hand in marriage, but if that didn't happen, there would have been no King Solomon. The Lord works in mysterious ways.

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Long_time_lurker 1 point ago +1 / -0

Follow that line a bit further and you find Jesus, too, at least in Matthew's geneology.

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MythArcana [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

That is correct. The Jews yearned for another King David from the true bloodline for many generations that was promised by God through the prophets. When they finally got their true King, they wanted Barabbas in the end instead. There is absolutely no wonder why God was angered with these people so many times throughout the Old Testament scriptures.

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Brellin 50 points ago +50 / -0

Yuri Bezminov warned about this decades ago. The subverters and infiltrators don't go for the "progressive" lefty institutions because those people are stupidly easy to lead around by the nose by just promising things you never plan to deliver on. By contrast the places with the most focus in terms of infiltration are conservative outlets, religious institutions, and traditional academics. Once those has been subverted everything else falls into line, because at that point the conservative and religious right no longer exists anymore.

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AlGonkwin 6 points ago +6 / -0

Listening to him made me accept that the KGB had been really successful in its ops against the Catholic Church and that’s a big reason it’s in the sorry state it’s in today. My grandma was a fire-breathing anti-Catholic and even she never dreamed there would be a pope who denied the existence of hell, Jesuit preachers extolling the goodness of gay sex, and a “married” gay couple giving the homily at a big Chicago parish.

I think, in the final analysis, Soviet influence has to figure in. Doesn’t matter that the Soviets are gone, the balls they started rolling are still rolling and globohomo is happy to pick up the slack.

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kr0m 1 point ago +1 / -0

no, it's not the reason. conservatives believe government is a necessary evil, with emphasis on evil. you want to minimize government as much as possible. that's why they put emphasis on state's rights vs a tyrannical federal rule in the constitution. seems pretty obvious that the last place you'd want government would be in religion.

and yet, the catholic church was built as a power structure. you have a hierarchy of leadership where everyone answers to the level above them, going all the way to the pope. with a typical protestant church you just have a preacher and if you don't like him you find another church. with the catholic church you have opulent cathedrals, guys speaking in latin to lend an air of authority and mystique, fake lore they added which wasn't in the bible (like the hierarchy of angels and demons which they greatly expanded on just as one example), worship of false idols in the form of saints' relics, a pope and bishops wearing robes that cost thousands of dollars, and absolutely 100% it's built as a form of government with centralized leadership.

it was corrupt and evil and designed as a power structure from the beginning. they went around killing people who still went by texts they considered non-canon. the whole purpose for them was to unify early christianity, with them in charge. how is it any wonder that you have a system where the church will just move around pedophile priests to cover up their raping of small boys? it was sick at it's inception and the fact that it has an internal system of governance guarantees it always will be.

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MoreTorbaLessKushner 6 points ago +7 / -1

And what is the end goal?

Pillaging the resources and creating mass graves.

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DixMcCoy 7 points ago +7 / -0

You forgot the slavery / labor pool of Gulag, fren.

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Auroraalpha 6 points ago +6 / -0

Also, they are the first lined up against the wall and shot. Because when they realize the magnitude of what they've done, they might become revolutionary. And that cannot be tolerated.

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DJTrump 4 points ago +4 / -0

They are too stupid and traitorous to keep around. The elites have no tolerance for weak pathetic dullards once they are in control.

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DixMcCoy 4 points ago +4 / -0

They make Hubbard look legit.

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americandrunk 6 points ago +6 / -0

Indeed. All churches need to be cleansed.

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Tejas_Pepe 6 points ago +6 / -0

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves Matthew 7:15-20

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americandrunk 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well said.

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eureka_stockade 74 points ago +77 / -3

Can you imagine the punishment that awaits these liars?

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MythArcana [S] 29 points ago +30 / -1

Gonna be some crispy libtards in this generation for sure. Hillary will bring the hot sauce. 🔥💥

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eureka_stockade 12 points ago +12 / -0

Indeed.

Perversely, at least Killary makes no pretence of being Christian.

The coals that demon Pelosi must be heaping on her head, calling herself a Catholic, fronting up for Holy Communion, and defending late-term abortion as "sacred ground".

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Traiya 15 points ago +15 / -0

God is pro choice... with consequences.

He gave Adam and Eve the ability to choose to eat the fruit that he told them not to... but the consequences of that has affected all man kind.

People have the choice to kill their children, and hell will be that much hotter for it.

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eureka_stockade 8 points ago +8 / -0

Fair point.

Mind you, "pro choice" was always dishonest. These people advocate so vociferously for abortion, not for "choice" - it's almost a sacrament to them.

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IT_WAS_THE_RUSSIANS 8 points ago +8 / -0

Its all optics. "Anti-life" could never have gained support as a movement, so they needed the proper wording. Even then, they're not nearly as successful as they could have hoped.

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eureka_stockade 4 points ago +4 / -0

Not in America.

But here in Australia, in Western Europe, I presume in Canada and New Zealand, they could not have been more successful. Their diabolical position has become society's default.

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Hades440 6 points ago +6 / -0

Just look at how they treat the places that help women who chose not to abort their babies. If the main concern was choice, they wouldn't attack and burn down the pregnancy centers that are saving babies.

On the other hand, if the main concern was abort abort abort, then it makes perfect sense.

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eureka_stockade 4 points ago +4 / -0

Absolutely the case.

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MythArcana [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Their body, their choice. Your body, their choice.

Every time.

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Aoikaze2000 13 points ago +13 / -0

I always wondered what blaspheming the Holy Spirit looked like... kinda wished I didn't know what it is now.

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eureka_stockade 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yes. It's terminal unrepentance.

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TerribleParable 6 points ago +6 / -0

I pray for them to come to their senses, we all deserve death, we should fear the One who can destroy our soul

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eureka_stockade 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well put.

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NotDangerousGame 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think I'm going to go read inferno again.

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DixMcCoy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nel mezzo del cammin di nostra vita

mi ritrovai per una selva oscura,

ché la diritta via era smarrita.

spez: I can't get newlines in quotes, wth is up with the markdown interpreter or am I tarded?

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kr0m 0 points ago +1 / -1

it's a work of fiction. why do catholics act like it's canon? and if it is considered canon, why does the catholic church feel the need to constantly add new lore that's not in the bible? to keep their grip of power over the flock or what?

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NotDangerousGame 1 point ago +1 / -0

What the fuck are you talking about? Who on gods green earth thinks inferno is a documentary? Who in the Catholic church teaches inferno as doctrine? Also, who brought up catholics anyway?

Maybe make sure you're not about to prove how ignorant you are before you speak authoritatively on something.

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Lol_Garrus 56 points ago +58 / -2

If your church hasnt celebrated the repeal of roe v wade, and/or is doing things like whats mentioned in this article; you need to find a new church, immediately.

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Long_time_lurker 18 points ago +18 / -0

Mine posted a nice article celebrating the repeal and warning us that the fight is not over, it has just moved to the states.

I then posted it on a local bulletin board and I think I triggered the neighbor who appears to be an RBG simp.

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KekistanPM 11 points ago +11 / -0

Mine not only celebrated it, but they spent millions of dollars from tithes and offerings building an entire campus devoted to helping expectant mothers come to term and getting them on their feet.

And while lives are being saved at that campus, all the haters do is complain "but they're forcing Christianity on them!!! and the pastor wears a nice looking suit! and I saw a youtube video that proves he's a fraud!" Those people would sooner starve to death than even listen to someone speak the Gospel at a soup kitchen.

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MythArcana [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

This would be the best thing to do.

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2ScoopsMAGA 4 points ago +4 / -0

Agreed. My old church posted some praise for the repeal on Facebook but they railed against Trump for 4 years. I think they should be forced to give him credit or at least utter the phrase, “Thank you God for sending Trump.”

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Morris_The_Grey 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is it a black or white church?

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2ScoopsMAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

75% black and a bunch of Hispanic. Pastor is white as anything and caved to the BLM movement. You guessed it.

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Morris_The_Grey 2 points ago +2 / -0

Some idiots are just so brainwashed that whitey is out to get them. I was never afraid or cautious of Asians and whites. It was always Hispanics or blacks.

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jtt888 2 points ago +2 / -0

My priest/pastor made sure to email the same day to church members how it was a blessed day and mentioned it in his homily that Sunday. I shook his hand before mass and we both agreed it was a good day when we found out. Now there's more work to do.

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MoreTorbaLessKushner 29 points ago +38 / -9

Churches or Synagogues?

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MythArcana [S] 13 points ago +15 / -2

Asking the real questions.

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The_Litehaus_Abides 16 points ago +16 / -0

I wonder if he shut down his church for covid? Our most basic 1st Amendment rights were violated because of that scam.

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_Eric_Ciaramella_ 7 points ago +7 / -0

Probably still makes them wear a mask

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Icanteven 9 points ago +9 / -0

I'm sure he feels the same way about laws that infringe on gun rights, or laws that infringe on other personal freedoms. Right?

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cciv 8 points ago +8 / -0

Atlanta? Nuf said.

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MythArcana [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's a whole lot of no good going on in that place, let me tell you. It's going to be Atlantis if they keep this up much longer.

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South_Florida_Guy 6 points ago +6 / -0

That sounds like the climate change hoaxsters that start out with their desired conclusion and then make the "data" come out with the results they want.

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Mark4-40 6 points ago +6 / -0

Laws that restrict freedoms are not on the side of God? Lol... Guess he never read the OT.

If this is the case, it's not wrong to lie, steal, or murder, right? Or better yet, storm the capital with our friends any time we feel like.

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DixMcCoy 1 point ago +2 / -1

Probably not.

I haven't been inside church (it was Catholic) in a very long time, like, since 8th grade?

I miss the hymns and stuff, if I had to say. The time to go around and reflect upon the Beatitudes was pretty decent, too.

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deletedandreacted 24 points ago +26 / -2

A lot of “churches” are so far away from God you may as well be at a tranny convention.

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cook_does 5 points ago +5 / -0

A lot of smaller churches are dying. But it’s not all doom and gloom, some are still doing it right

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DixMcCoy 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm glad I decided to not go to seminary, that I can tell you.

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Aditon 24 points ago +25 / -1

Satanic Projection at its height

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superwookee 27 points ago +27 / -0

Satanic inversion.

All sin is the inverse of who God is.

Satan cannot create only corrupt.

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MoreTorbaLessKushner 16 points ago +17 / -1

Correct.

One of my favorite interpretations of Satan was in The Passion of the Christ. He is depicted as androgynous, and expresses himself by twisting God's creations. As Jesus is getting whipped by the Romans, He sees Satan in the crowd of observers. His face has a blank expression, and he's holding a baby. The child turns to look at Jesus, and has this demonic, perverted smile, as if saying, "look at how much my dad loves me, while yours has you tortured and killed".

That scene stuck with me. The typical pop culture depiction of the Devil is a joke. Satan is really the essence of corruption. He hates all that is pure. He isn't some red dude with horns and a pitchfork.

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superwookee 11 points ago +11 / -0

The Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled Was Convincing the World He Didn’t Exist (or that he's a harmless cartoon)

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Powdered_Sugar 22 points ago +23 / -1

Read "The Antichrist" by St. Robert Bellarmine.

Modern "Christianity" will fall and be suckered in by the Anti-Christ at the end. It's unfortunate, but that's what happens when you stop following God and start trying to find your paradise in the world.

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Recyclops 21 points ago +21 / -0

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (KJV)

3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

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Recyclops 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm very confused. Are you saying, "Easy times make weak men, that then look for easy solutions, that then make them even weaker" ? I am, admittedly, not the sharpest knife in the chandelier, and can't decipher the meaning of what you wrote.

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Recyclops 1 point ago +1 / -0

I understand. Thank you for explaining. 🐸

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CentralAmericanPede 17 points ago +18 / -1

The left does not leave any powerful institution alone. The right needs to be more vigilant. Whats actually demonic is feminism. Feminism is one of the most evil ideologies in existence, and yet “churches” like this celebrate it.

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radioactivedk 3 points ago +3 / -0

The churches suffer “democracy” for the same reason politicians do. Females outlive males and make up the majority of voters and congregations.

Although I do see a lot of former feminist consuming red pills, far too many who I thought of as very conservative just cannot give up the indoctrination from the 60s-70s. Hell, I had a LDS teenager spouting the most nonsense I’ve ever heard about the repeal of Roe v Wade to my kid and cut that right off.

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DixMcCoy 15 points ago +15 / -0

William Murphy, lead pastor at the dReam Center Church of Atlanta, told the congregation, “All the guys, let’s all, let’s all set appointments to get vasectomies.”

OK, go ahead. Not a real church btw

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MythArcana [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

Here we are in Georgia again, home of the former Georgia Guidestones and stolen election.

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SouthernParadise 8 points ago +8 / -0

And they wonder why it seems to get hotter in my state every year. Hint: it’s not climate change. Evil has overtaken the younger generation “institutions”. I am loathe to call them churches because they are the furthest thing from them. We are in the Bible Belt, yet the Bible is not what they follow. And when they do manage to eek out a quote, it is so far removed from its intent, that it is blasphemous. Every Sunday morning you see them all gather like roaches following the food crumbs…then they all wind up in Walmart, and Costco, yelling at people and acting like pure trash. Church in the south is more of a virtue signal than about listening to a meaningful sermon; asking for forgiveness of sins, and receiving the Eucharist. It’s all gone so wrong. I’m not a perfect catholic…I have a lot to atone for. But I know the difference between good and evil.

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MythArcana [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's a sign of the times, I'm afraid. Israel and Judah also went through these changes many times over through the ages, but people just weren't getting it even to the very end where they were scattered across the earth.

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DixMcCoy 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also, how do rabbi have herpes? With presentation on their mouths? Very sick twisted shit.

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Elephant_Trump 13 points ago +14 / -1

I was a devout catholic up until about 2016 or 2017. between all the bleeding heart leftism, the wokisim and our most recent two "popes" I said "fuck that shit... I'm out."

I'm still a Christian, but I'm not actively in any church or religion.

before it is suggested, I have tried both sides of Christianity. I was raised as a Baptist for the first 17 years of my life. I converted to catholicism, of my own volition, starting at at 17.

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LadyOfLorien 7 points ago +7 / -0

Check out the FSSP.

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_M_A_G_A_ 5 points ago +5 / -0

Or a church run by the ICKSP.

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superwookee 3 points ago +4 / -1

Look into Reformed theology. It's completely different from Baptist and Catholic viewpoints. Based closely on the teachings that came from the Reformation.

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barwhack 3 points ago +4 / -1

Try unadorned: restoration-style. [bible.ca] is all right. Look up some 2nd temple theology too [bible project], for a better historical grounding; that kept me alive, anyway. I can't really defend popes, but I've found Christ quite the right amount of off-putting, from every approach I've tried... He's just unexpected enough to actually fit the mold of a Transcendent.

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yurimodin 2 points ago +3 / -1

Missouri Senate Lutheran is probobly what you are looking for.

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TenaciousDT 3 points ago +3 / -0

:)

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froggy_face 2 points ago +2 / -0

*Synod

Lutheran Church Missouri Synod (LCMS)

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elleand202 1 point ago +1 / -0

Synod (sorry for being pedantic)

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FLLovesTrump 11 points ago +11 / -0

Woke Church, funny way to say Tax Evasion and Money Laundering.

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MythArcana [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head here.

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Redpill_Hippie 11 points ago +11 / -0

As the churches have been infiltrated by the LGBT+ and pushing for a toned down Gospel without any fire or brimstone (can't have people upset they are going to Hell), these churches have become more and more secular and an abomination in the eyes of God.

People need to recognize the enemy. I read and posted this article earlier, hoping people would see it and know we need to take steps to fix the church too. Glad to see it stickied.

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MythArcana [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

The Old Testament is chock full of eras that we are seeing today. I love flipping through Kings to see how one ruler did reasonably well, then another one took over and blew it for everyone. What we're seeing today is like going from Solomon to Ahab in 18 months. XD

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PatrickHangry 4 points ago +4 / -0

I like that analogy. If we're currently living under Ahab, there'd be only one more ruler to go before God responds to Hezekiah's prayer by sending the Angel of the Lord.

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MythArcana [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Honestly, it gives me hope that nothing lasts forever, which is exactly why God capped our lifespans at 120 years after the Great Flood.

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PatrickHangry 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, it seems like the same mercy as withholding the Tree of Life from those suffering under the grip of sin.

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Yawnz13 10 points ago +10 / -0

I've seen the angle from atheists who try to equivocate a miscarriage with an elective abortion, but this is just fucking dumb.

laws that restrict and take away freedoms are never on the side of Jesus and a God of justice

So since laws that outlaw murder, rape, arson, and theft all restrict my freedom, they aren't on the side of Jesus? Okay, gotcha. Since this retard wants to take this debate to the peak of absurdity, might as well throw it back in his face.

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RStroud 2 points ago +2 / -0

I would suggest that the laws are man's rules for himself. God doesn't care if it is legal or not.

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Yawnz13 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, but I'm more pointing out the absolutely absurd nature of this line of logic.

Most rational people understand that no person is "truely free" i.e. that they should be allowed to do whatever they want without consequence. By the logic presented by this particular member of the Episcopal clergy, they are basically renegging on their own supposed belief in God by espousing the idea that any law that "restrict and take away freedoms is against God".

Now I don't know how one attains a clergy position in the Episcopal Church, but you'd think there would be some kind of training/instruction on such matters as agency, law, morality, etc. and that oen must adhere to the principles taught in said training in order to be in the clergy.

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RStroud 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think the the better take is that separation of church and state doesn't preclude prohibitions based upon religious beliefs. And, a democratic nation's laws should absolutely reflect the moral beliefs and will of its people (whether they be inspired by man or gods). Separation of church and state was intended to prohibit the imposition of religious tests, observances, duties etcetera.

The idea that representatives and officials must check their religion and conscience at the door is a grave error. The secular state should not be concerned of whether men are influenced by Jesus, Buddha, Marx, or Aristotle. Even the atheists should argue that all of these purported sources of wisdom are of equal provence, philosophical words written by men.

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Yawnz13 1 point ago +1 / -0

The idea that representatives and officials must check their religion and conscience at the door is a grave error.

Absolutely, and that sort of idea completely misrepresents both the literal text of the Establishment Clause as well as the basic historical premise behind it being the very first part of the First Amendment.

Being against abortion isn't even expressly limited to those of a religous/theist persuasion, as any atheist (let's be honest, atheism is a religion in its own right) should understand that a fetus is both a human genetically and is genetically distinct from either parent, thus logically can not be a part of the woman's body. Therefore, abortion can not logically be "My body, my choice".

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Long_time_lurker 8 points ago +8 / -0

It's funny that they look at Jesus helping those caught in sin and then ignore the part at the end about "go and sin no more."

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Pepper2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Love thyself as thyself and do not cut thine dick off

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TenaciousDT 3 points ago +3 / -0

LOL, Amen

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DixMcCoy 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, NGOs are bad for the country. The ones that tell people south of the border to come here and such. Akin to Lutherans bringing xenos from abroad several decades earlier but worse.

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MythArcana [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I suppose it's one thing to attempt to bring those people to the light and get them on the right track, but it's a whole other thing to infuse the congregation with these people as is and expect everything to turn out great. We all saw what happened with schools, work and government, churches can be equally vulnerable to this indoctrination.

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Friendly_B 4 points ago +5 / -1

My pastor doesn't want us to bring in people to service for the purpose of convincing them of anything.

In his view church service is concentrated devotional time meant for worship, praise, and learning. We are supposed to go out and spread our light in the community and keep church time for those who are already in the light and willing to learn and desiring to praise.

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FudgyFudgeBots 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is my problem with churches. God gave us a gift and rather than do what we need to do to take care of that gift, we make sure all our needs are met and the gift be damned.

Christian's could stop this nonsense in one day if pastors would actually lead.

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South_Florida_Guy 10 points ago +10 / -0

I fucking can't anymore with clown world

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MythArcana [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

It gets so tiring, doesn't it. Gotta find a way to rise above it somehow so that it doesn't corrupt the spirit and slip that black pill down the throat. I battle with this daily, but I go to bed knowing that this is God's will.

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yurimodin 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm not even 40 yet and the older I get I just mumble under my breath "God please rapture us out and burn this mofo to the ground already"

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NotoriousCIC 8 points ago +8 / -0

The left is pure evil and any church associated with that dogma is not or Christ.

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thisisatestof2 7 points ago +7 / -0

Of course the united “Church” of Christ is on the list. Probably one of the most woke religious organizations in existence in the US. They may say it, but they’re numbers mean very few people would hear it. Last I looked they only have about 700,000 members down from over 2 million in the 1960s or so.

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friendly_friends 6 points ago +6 / -0

Happy to be Orthodox. We aren’t changing shit. Ever.

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KonyHawk_ProSlaver 3 points ago +3 / -0

What denomination? Does it matter which? Any tips? I'm very interested in finding something more traditional than these woke churches that are rapidly uprooting from God's word

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friendly_friends 5 points ago +5 / -0

The Orthidox Church is the Eastern Orrhodox Church, a very challenging pill to swallow, but omce I studied all about it when trying to look into what I truly believe, and all the heresies from when after Jesus died that made Christianity what it is, and not merely some Jewish offshoot or cult, I found the true unbroken line of the Church, which the Roman Catholic Church broke away from, and which was the bulwark against barbarians and false religion all the way until the Crusades, and in pieces after. They held the last ecumenical council, which is when the rules are made, over 1000 years ago and would not change stances on abortion or homosexuality at all without one. And can you imagine a bunch of bearded male traditionalists allowing that into any part of their church?

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Lt-Aldo-Raine 6 points ago +6 / -0

These are not churches: these are social clubs with a cross on the door.

Attend a church that follows the word of God.

Thou shalt not kill.

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AIDS1255 6 points ago +6 / -0

Honestly i don't understand the purpose of a "Christian" church if you're not going to follow what the Bible says. I guess just tax evasion for liberal echo chambers?

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AIDS1255 3 points ago +3 / -0

Agreed. I'm still learning a lot, just started this journey thanks to my wife, but man today's world is very far from what the Bible says. Many churches included.

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6daysandrest 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree with everything here except the starting point. A person really needs to get a firm grounding in the Pentatauch before reading the Gospels. It provides vital context. It also provides the laws we are generally supposed to still live under.

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AntiCommie89 5 points ago +5 / -0

May God have mercy on your souls

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magnokor 5 points ago +5 / -0

Illogical.

The "churches" that are obsessed with "sponsoring" the arrival of Third World heathens.

They bring them in, set them loose, and take no responsibility when they hurt or kill the locals.

The "churches" that cry about a mass murderer getting sentenced, yet don't care about the victims.

Now the "churches" wanting babies to be killed.

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Dictator_Bob 5 points ago +5 / -0

Notice how none of the people in this debate want to debate when life begins. They want to pretend this debate itself is settled. So there's no reason to have it. You must accept their viewpoints on this and therefore they have no need to mention it in their rhetoric.

Does life begin at conception? At the heartbeat? At the first brainwave?

I don't know the answer to this and I'm not some complete piece of shit from a woke church. If I don't know it, then that human garbage pile doesn't either.

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Dictator_Bob 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sure, and where is that debate? It's assumed by them and we are supposed to shut up and take it?

The strategy they have depends on silencing the debate on when life begins. To do this they must ignore the topic entirely. Which they do routinely, which is what this is, never mind the obvious attempt to subvert the Christian church in America.

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RusherOfDin 5 points ago +5 / -0

These are probably the same faggot preachers dancing around in TikTok videos.

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barwhack 5 points ago +5 / -0

God is definitely pro-choice. The babies they murder will make some choices later, in the lefties' regards, "from the proxy bench", I think.

Enemies of humanity will own nothing, and die eternally.

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MythArcana [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

We were given free will to make our choices, this is true. It's also possible to make the wrong choices and repent with all your heart and ask for forgiveness. However, to deviate from the teachings of the Bible with "woke churches" by guiding people to do the wrong thing, I'd have to say our Holy Father ain't really too keen on that sort of thing.

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barwhack 2 points ago +2 / -0

The "sin that cannot be forgiven" is active rebellion...

Yup.

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Mew_Deuces 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's why we stopped paying our tithes and offering. I'd rather use that money to help God's people myself.

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airborne3502 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thankfully, if you're a believer, you don't have to go to a church, and pay the cover charge, if you don't want to.

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superwookee 8 points ago +8 / -0

Hebrews 10:25 disagrees with you

Not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.

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airborne3502 6 points ago +6 / -0

What church does John 3:16 refer you to?

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Mark4-40 3 points ago +3 / -0

Churchgoing isn't a salvation issue. It is a quality of life issue.

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superwookee 2 points ago +2 / -0

John 3:16 concerns salvation.

And if you are saved you will show God love by obeying his commands.

Honoring the sabbath and not neglecting to gather yourself together with other believers.

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airborne3502 3 points ago +3 / -0

You and I have just interacted online.

We have met the command.

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superwookee 2 points ago +2 / -0

An incredibly loose interpretation that I cannot come close to agreeing with, but that's between you and The Creator.

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PatrickHangry 1 point ago +1 / -0

Our lives are just so much richer when we check the boxes on mere technicalities, that I can't bear to imagine what it would be like to fully engage with the heart of the matter. ;-)

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TenaciousDT 1 point ago +2 / -1

pwned

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MythArcana [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Good Book reads the same in my house as it does there, I don't need anyone else to read it for me. I do appreciate some sources that I consider experts and watch them accordingly, but there's no way I'm getting wrapped up with third-party ideologies when I'm absorbing the Word.

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0nlyL0s3rsC3ns0r 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is why you only go to an Orthodox church where literally nothing has been changed in dogma or in practice, from what was taught to us by the apostles.

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MadRussian 4 points ago +4 / -0

Synagogues of Satan.

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jnic815 4 points ago +4 / -0

God is pro-choice

Yes, he made his choice by planting that seed. Removing it would be going against it.

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Auroraalpha 4 points ago +4 / -0

Their lampstand will be snuffed out.

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The_Kuru 4 points ago +4 / -0

Did the faggot commie pope ever praise the end of the Roe v Wade?

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MythArcana [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

You'll have to ask Pelosi that one since she has to fly to Italy to receive communion since her local church won't give it to her.

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Nipplebuddy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Churches of Satan

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n3IVI0 4 points ago +4 / -0

Their god is pro-choice, because their god is Moloch.

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webthing 3 points ago +3 / -0

Everything is backwards in clown world. 🤡🌎

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RogueLeaderX 3 points ago +3 / -0

Do they worship Saint Hunter The Groomer at these churches?

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ERIC_CIARAMELLA 3 points ago +3 / -0

What part of "Thou shalt not kill" do they not understand?

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Arkanicide2022 3 points ago +3 / -0

Get behind me, Satan.

Jesus Christ

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SoldierOnFire 3 points ago +3 / -0

If your church did not celebrate the overturning of Roe v Wade, you need to find another church.

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Patriotarchy 3 points ago +4 / -1

I think it's about time the old testament made a comeback.

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yurimodin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hoes Stoned?

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Patriotarchy 5 points ago +6 / -1

I was thinking hellfire and brimstone, the odd flaming sword, but that works too!

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DixMcCoy 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hoes Stoned?

Not like Hunter Biden, either! Actual stones.

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MythArcana [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I read the entire Bible back in 2019, and I must say I enjoyed the OT immensely. Leviticus and Deuteronomy were a bit rough due to the sheer volume of repetitive details of Jewish rituals, rites, laws and minutiae of the Arc of the Covenant, but then it picked up in Numbers again for some prime entertainment after that.

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tb279 3 points ago +3 / -0

How could the Episcopal church write this with a straight face? "In a series of statements over the past decades, the Church has declared that “we emphatically oppose abortion as a means of birth control, family planning, sex selection, or any reason of mere convenience.”" But a few paragraphs later: "At the General Convention in 2018, The Episcopal Church called for “women’s reproductive health and reproductive health procedures to be treated as all other medical procedures.”"

We oppose abortion "until 2018." Or We oppose abortion, but we support reproductive health procedures.

https://www.episcopalchurch.org/ogr/summary-of-general-convention-resolutions-on-abortion-and-womens-reproductive-health/

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MythArcana [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

There were some comments in here that a lot of churches buckled down to the government during the covid lockdowns to stay open, and this woke crap might be an effect from pressure to close their doors. I honestly can't think of anything else since churches don't have ESG scores and that WEF woke crap shouldn't affect them any, but here we are...

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tb279 3 points ago +3 / -0

It is all about 'feelings' now. If you read the statement from the episcopal church, they talk about reproductive health care providing 'dignity.'

Dignity is a feeling. Abortion is taking away a life. Therefore, the church now believes feelings are more important than life.

Notice the left positions are frequently about feelings over good policy. Open borders: we don't want anyone to "Feel Bad" after they have made the long trip. Safe Spaces: Don't say anything offensive as hit may hurt someone's feelings.

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MythArcana [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

And all of that is included in the leftist ideology bag of tricks, the same package that captivates college students to adapt radical political and social ideas that are completely backwards from normality; i.e. Marxism and Wokeism. People become slaves to this thinking, as we have seen it applied everywhere else, and they lose complete focus of reality and ditch everything of morality into the toilet. It's just another way to kill off the family unit and to guide them away from Christ.

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rickynottricky 3 points ago +3 / -0

Satan is stupid, the Pharisees should have stuck with bilking conservatives, abortion-minded women have little "disposable" income.

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Antemalagon 3 points ago +3 / -0

God would never be prochoice, and i mean ever. Every life good or bad puts things in motion for Gods plan to prevail.

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PedemusPrime 3 points ago +3 / -0

That’s called blaspheming the Holy Spirit

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AZTrump2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don’t try to be pious, but if you act like abortion is sanctioned by God, you are a demon and cannot call yourself a Christian.