There's smart people around. There's got to be a way to figure it out.
Split everybody in two camps. If you don't belong here, get the fuck out. We can either motivate them the hard way or the easy way. Honestly, I'm ok with either. GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.
If they don't want to get out, stack the bodies. Works for me.
Doubt it'll happen. There are too many people who are 'peaceful patriots' who don't want violence. You'll end up with a civil war among MAGA folk if it comes to that.
What the hell are you talking about? We're not talking about nicknames or calling him "Lion Trump"... we're talking about party mascots ie. donkeys, elephants and lions, which are symbols of strength, leadership and peace within the Christian religion.
We aren't in disagreement, you're just misunderstanding the conversation. The whole point of this thread is about a 3rd political party. Parties have mascots ie. donkeys/elephants, which is why the Patriot/MAGA/America First Party... whatever people want to call it should adopt a lion as theirs, because:
lions are the king of beasts
Jesus was called the "Lion of Judah"
lions symbolize strength, leadership and peace, they are righteous
Nobody is trying to call Trump, "Lion Trump", I've literally never heard that. He just uses the symbol for his campaign, most likely for the reasons above, and some dopey nickname people gave Ted Cruz doesn't override thousands of years of Christian symbolism. If you think otherwise, then we are in disagreement.
I read your past history comments and I absolutely agree with you on all of your comments
If that's how you feel, then quit downvoting me. This isn't Reddit.
Eagles are trash. The bald eagle has great PR, people think it's some kind of noble, majestic alpha predator. Bullshit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen bald eagles eating roadkilled deer or bags of garbage.
LMAO I wish my guy but I'm certain this poll the half the people who want a third party want literal Socialists. Like in their minds its not commie enough. We need more taxes and more free gibs from the government.
This. If the momentum keeps up it might be a better home for MAGA than the republican fuckfest we currently have. At least we won't have to deal with rinos.
A third party will take time to develop critical mass. But if you do not start it, it will never happen. So either get on board or continue to come here and whine about muh RINOs and muh communists. Get off your ass and be a part of the change you want to see.
This right here. If there is a third party, it needs to be a left wing party so it splits their vote, not ours.
For those clamoring for a MAGA party, look at it this way. Say you have "purple states" which are 55% republican and 45% democrat. Now introduce another right wing party in there. The Democrats will keep their 45%, but the 55% that was Republican would be 40% Republican and 15% MAGA. A lot of conservative boomers and Gen X still remember that Ross Perot split the vote on conservatives and put Bill Clinton in the White House. If you toss Perot's voters in with the people that voted for Bush Sr, Bush Sr. gets re-elected. Instead, we got Clinton who weaponized the IRS and ATF as well as stacking other agencies, sold us out to China and the whole Chinagate shit, obliterated militias across the country, and so on. Clinton put us on the road to where we are right now.
As a Canadian, do not split, your fucked then. We have like 5 parties and then 2 more started, I voted for one of those new parties, that said everything I wanted to hear, but then we didn't win a single seat. Take the Republican party back, kick out the RINOs.
I spent the night with girl once in Vancouver BC on election night, flipped on the TV. Holy Hannah, ya'll have a LOT of Parties. It was fascinating to watch, the girl got pissed I was glued to the TV...hahahahaha
We need a third party where one of the primary principles is no more omnibus bills and pork riders. Single issue votes only, otherwise it's an automatic no vote.
Yang's "Forward" is just a stealth rebranding and expansion of the Lincoln Project. It will be packed with never-Trumpers. Miles Taylor, the anonymous NYT op-ed writer that trashed Trump in 2018, is already on the team.
People are stupid. There are 2 political parties, because there are those who attack the constitution, and there are those who defend it. The names are irrelevant. If the parties disappeared tomorrow, nothing would change. The founders put forth a document that outlines government in the most logical and ethical way possible. You either understand that or you don't. That isn't to say, those who attack the constitution don't understand it. Some are evil, some are ignorant. The fact is, none of that changes by starting a new political party. The way I look at it, there are those besieging the castle where the constitution is kept, and there are those defending. Forming companies and platoons within that defense makes sense, but the names make not difference. You're defending or attacking. That's it.
Political parties are one of the key reasons we are where we are.
Remember the advice of the Founding Fathers, and George Washington in particular regarding political parties?
You see, there is no reason to be in a political party if you are there to represent your constituents. The only time you need to be part of a party is if your views may be antithetical to your constituents, and you need extra support in the form of money.
Political parties are exactly like corporations, only that the product being sold is politicians.
Donors = Shareholders
Party National Committee = Board of Directors
Party Leadership = Executive Officers
Party Politicians = The Products
Voters = The Consumers
Andrew Yang and Christine Whitman are currently trying to form a Third Party. Of course, that attempt will fall flat. But we'll have to hear their "Rah, Rah BS" for yhe next three months or so while they try to become Prom King and Prom Queen of their Forward Party.
Family, God and country, peace through strength, a world of sovereign nations and self determination, hard work makes happy people.
I want to see a party name that pays respect to the concept of local governance at the county and community levels. People need to better engage in their local politics so that it impacts the broader (not higher) levels of government.
Just occurred to me. Andrew Yang just started one called the Forward Party. Someone needs to clue him in, the word "Forward" is a Communist Slogan going back to Lenin days. Anyone ever heard of The Great Leap Forward in China? Someone should send him a tweet and let him know. Amazing what can learn paying attention in History class.
The modern democrats are made up of the fringes of the green party. So-called "progressives" would have been ideal. Except Clinton's party choked them out.
We desperately need an alternative to the Uniparty.
In these times of biblical levels of betrayal, we must start afresh, and toss out the traitors. The false president, Congress, top ranks of the FBI, DOJ, tranny admirals - wash it all away. We need an American revolution to remove the criminals.
We don’t need a third political party. We just need to get rid of the two we have and let the country be run by a small group of white Christian nationalists.
The best time to start a third party is when the Right holds a HUGE majority in both chambers of Congress and the other branches of government. Room for drastic change
And that third party is MAGA
America First Party.
“ You’re either with us or you’re against us.”
Normally I would say that's an extreme position... but it do be like that. It's the leftist extremists that have put everyone in the corner.
You're either FOR America or you're not. If you're not, you're an enemy of America. Basically just that.
Revoke citizenships. Execute criminals. Deport aliens.
America First.
Good luck executing/deporting about 100 million people, though. Even if their numbers aren't as big as claimed, they're still awfully big.
There's smart people around. There's got to be a way to figure it out.
Split everybody in two camps. If you don't belong here, get the fuck out. We can either motivate them the hard way or the easy way. Honestly, I'm ok with either. GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.
If they don't want to get out, stack the bodies. Works for me.
Doubt it'll happen. There are too many people who are 'peaceful patriots' who don't want violence. You'll end up with a civil war among MAGA folk if it comes to that.
maybe wirh the help of 33,000 smart gullotines and mass graves that can fit 5 to 10 bodies each in every state deployed since 2015ish?
Form your mouth to God’s ears.
The Patriot Party.
The American Conservative Party, ACP
45 ACP?
andre yang disagrees he has a 3rd party now
The lion is our mascot.
Lions sleep the day away, and it’s taken by Lying Ted Cruz
What else are they supposed to do in the African Sahara during the heat of the day? Get a 9-5 job?
No it isn't. The lion is king of the jungle, a leader of men, which is why Trump uses the imagery so much, as he should.
The Lion Trump has been trying hard to stick, but it doesn’t resound. Sorry….Lying Ted Cruz beat ya to it.
What the hell are you talking about? We're not talking about nicknames or calling him "Lion Trump"... we're talking about party mascots ie. donkeys, elephants and lions, which are symbols of strength, leadership and peace within the Christian religion.
“What the hell” then close with “Christian religion”…nice.
We aren't in disagreement, you're just misunderstanding the conversation. The whole point of this thread is about a 3rd political party. Parties have mascots ie. donkeys/elephants, which is why the Patriot/MAGA/America First Party... whatever people want to call it should adopt a lion as theirs, because:
lions are the king of beasts
Jesus was called the "Lion of Judah"
lions symbolize strength, leadership and peace, they are righteous
Nobody is trying to call Trump, "Lion Trump", I've literally never heard that. He just uses the symbol for his campaign, most likely for the reasons above, and some dopey nickname people gave Ted Cruz doesn't override thousands of years of Christian symbolism. If you think otherwise, then we are in disagreement.
If that's how you feel, then quit downvoting me. This isn't Reddit.
EAGLE
Eagles are trash. The bald eagle has great PR, people think it's some kind of noble, majestic alpha predator. Bullshit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen bald eagles eating roadkilled deer or bags of garbage.
Fuck eagles.
I've seen bald eagles shred ducks. They are opportunists and will eat carrion as well as fresh kills.
Many think the wild turkey should have been the national bird.
Honey badger!!
i eat roadkill deer too. but i wont eat bugs, and neither do eagles
Do you eat them when they bloated and rotting?
nah
If we do that, we need to make sure Trump recruits true MAGA candidates to run. No more of this RINO bullshit
No more Pence no more Burr
LMAO I wish my guy but I'm certain this poll the half the people who want a third party want literal Socialists. Like in their minds its not commie enough. We need more taxes and more free gibs from the government.
Libertarian party was recently taken over by Ron Paul libertarians, it's worth a look.
https://twitter.com/lpnational
It’s a coalition of Ron Paul Libertarians and MAGA people. It’s fucking beautiful.
LP is the most viable it’s ever been
This. If the momentum keeps up it might be a better home for MAGA than the republican fuckfest we currently have. At least we won't have to deal with rinos.
No shit? During 2020 they embraced globohomo with the rest of the bugmen.
It was only this year that the LP party had their internal elections and the power change took place
Completely ignorant to the situation but that sounds sus.
iykyk, no cap
Can you put it in layman's terms?
If the Libertarian Party can be taken over from the inside, why not the Republicans too?
Libtardarians are almost as clueless as Libtards. They have no clue about reality and think Ayn Rand's world could function. smh.
Uniparty has locked in its hold over the electoral process. I dont see a way for a 3rd party to be successful in the current environment.
A 3rd party will easily just be subverted and infiltrated by this regime. If it can do so for both parties it can easily do it again
Or lawfare'd into oblivion.
A third party will be used to split the conservative vote and ensure Democrat rule...
Unless we beat them to the punch and meme a third progressive party into existence
A third party will take time to develop critical mass. But if you do not start it, it will never happen. So either get on board or continue to come here and whine about muh RINOs and muh communists. Get off your ass and be a part of the change you want to see.
It seems like you weren’t able to understand the point at all
Three won't work, we will need at least four that hold seats in Congress.
This right here. If there is a third party, it needs to be a left wing party so it splits their vote, not ours.
For those clamoring for a MAGA party, look at it this way. Say you have "purple states" which are 55% republican and 45% democrat. Now introduce another right wing party in there. The Democrats will keep their 45%, but the 55% that was Republican would be 40% Republican and 15% MAGA. A lot of conservative boomers and Gen X still remember that Ross Perot split the vote on conservatives and put Bill Clinton in the White House. If you toss Perot's voters in with the people that voted for Bush Sr, Bush Sr. gets re-elected. Instead, we got Clinton who weaponized the IRS and ATF as well as stacking other agencies, sold us out to China and the whole Chinagate shit, obliterated militias across the country, and so on. Clinton put us on the road to where we are right now.
"Third". I'd settle for a second.
So the other 33% must be benefiting from the economic and policy chaos lol
As a Canadian, do not split, your fucked then. We have like 5 parties and then 2 more started, I voted for one of those new parties, that said everything I wanted to hear, but then we didn't win a single seat. Take the Republican party back, kick out the RINOs.
I spent the night with girl once in Vancouver BC on election night, flipped on the TV. Holy Hannah, ya'll have a LOT of Parties. It was fascinating to watch, the girl got pissed I was glued to the TV...hahahahaha
Just get rid of the two parties we currently have and start over.
We need a third party where one of the primary principles is no more omnibus bills and pork riders. Single issue votes only, otherwise it's an automatic no vote.
Andrew Yang said he's starting a new "centrist party," that consists of 100% ex GOP. Nothing says centrist like only GOP + Andrew Yang.
They have no policies yet, but I assume a centrist party would be "pro choice + pro god."
Andrew Yang has a high risk of contracting monkeypox
Yang's "Forward" is just a stealth rebranding and expansion of the Lincoln Project. It will be packed with never-Trumpers. Miles Taylor, the anonymous NYT op-ed writer that trashed Trump in 2018, is already on the team.
Third parties never work. Take BACK ours.
People are stupid. There are 2 political parties, because there are those who attack the constitution, and there are those who defend it. The names are irrelevant. If the parties disappeared tomorrow, nothing would change. The founders put forth a document that outlines government in the most logical and ethical way possible. You either understand that or you don't. That isn't to say, those who attack the constitution don't understand it. Some are evil, some are ignorant. The fact is, none of that changes by starting a new political party. The way I look at it, there are those besieging the castle where the constitution is kept, and there are those defending. Forming companies and platoons within that defense makes sense, but the names make not difference. You're defending or attacking. That's it.
i see it different there should always be 2 parties
1 saying the government should do x the other saying nope x is none of governments business
We don't need a third political party.
Political parties are one of the key reasons we are where we are.
Remember the advice of the Founding Fathers, and George Washington in particular regarding political parties?
You see, there is no reason to be in a political party if you are there to represent your constituents. The only time you need to be part of a party is if your views may be antithetical to your constituents, and you need extra support in the form of money.
Political parties are exactly like corporations, only that the product being sold is politicians.
Donors = Shareholders Party National Committee = Board of Directors Party Leadership = Executive Officers Party Politicians = The Products Voters = The Consumers
You see how this works?
AMERICA FIRST PARTY.
no we just need one party...The MAGA party
Andrew Yang and Christine Whitman are currently trying to form a Third Party. Of course, that attempt will fall flat. But we'll have to hear their "Rah, Rah BS" for yhe next three months or so while they try to become Prom King and Prom Queen of their Forward Party.
Fuckin Yang I forgot all about UBI Guy.
The rest of the country has too. About every six months, Yang attempts to stay relevant -- and he remains an obscurity.
Lather. Rinse. Repeat.
Lion party
Constitutionalists
Liberty is delivered from the barrel of a gun.
Family, God and country, peace through strength, a world of sovereign nations and self determination, hard work makes happy people.
I want to see a party name that pays respect to the concept of local governance at the county and community levels. People need to better engage in their local politics so that it impacts the broader (not higher) levels of government.
Just occurred to me. Andrew Yang just started one called the Forward Party. Someone needs to clue him in, the word "Forward" is a Communist Slogan going back to Lenin days. Anyone ever heard of The Great Leap Forward in China? Someone should send him a tweet and let him know. Amazing what can learn paying attention in History class.
The Forward is also a new york publication that started as a "Yiddish-language daily socialist newspaper" in 1897.
Green and Libertarian parties should form a coalition focused centrally on liberty. Sharing half power is better than no power.
Green party is authoritarian in nature...
Why are both left wing parties authoritarian? Nobody cares about the hippy vote?
What could be greener than a limited government? Trim the fat.
If that was the sole point of a Green Party, I’d agree. But they have a lot of absolute control concepts. Disappointing.
I refer to them as watermelons. Green on the outside and red (commie) on the inside.
The modern democrats are made up of the fringes of the green party. So-called "progressives" would have been ideal. Except Clinton's party choked them out.
Actually, we need a 2nd political party.
66% of Americans are White Supremacists and bigots!
We desperately need an alternative to the Uniparty.
In these times of biblical levels of betrayal, we must start afresh, and toss out the traitors. The false president, Congress, top ranks of the FBI, DOJ, tranny admirals - wash it all away. We need an American revolution to remove the criminals.
When the majority want a uniparty, the three letters will grow one.
Another corrupt party to fester in the swamp
At this point, I unironically want to see what an American Fascist Party could offer an average citizen.
"But a third party would let the democrats win!!! reeee!" - every. win reply to every time third party is brought up
And they're not wrong unfortunately
Sadly lefties vote in lockstep no matter what idiot is running. See all the people with D after their name that got elected.
We don’t need a third political party. We just need to get rid of the two we have and let the country be run by a small group of white Christian nationalists.
What about the founders? They were white nationalists whom governed in a secular manner.
The GOP and dems are colluding to destroy the country. They’re all grifters robbing us blind.
We should create a wedge between Squad and Bernie people.
Vote for AOC in the primaries if we have to.
Then have their vote split in the General.
Dominate them. 50/25/25 in the congressional alignment
obviously take presidency
Sounds like Limbaugh with Operation Chaos.
Another political party would be just dross if there isn't a movement to clean out the permanent Washington class.
America First! MAGA!
The best time to start a third party is when the Right holds a HUGE majority in both chambers of Congress and the other branches of government. Room for drastic change
Just remember:. Third party led to Ross Perot. Ross Perot 3way split led to Bill Clinton. No Bill means no Hilary. Be careful what you wish for!