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Globohomo_Erectus 137 points ago +137 / -0

Pretending the faggots at big tech will allow a Taiwanese emoji to be anywhere near popular

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Nyranger16 16 points ago +17 / -1

China is the worst. That said, Taiwan isn't exactly a bastion of freedom. Their president is a hardcore liberal and they damn well wouldn't come to our aid (conservatives).

I support them because their existence is an f u to China, but that's literally it

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elcomedian 11 points ago +11 / -0

Wtf is China? You mean west Taiwan?

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thegyropath 11 points ago +11 / -0

I mean a large majority of the electronic chips we use are made in Taiwan, which is also another reason we need to support them because even if we're having manufacturing done here for those in the future, the time it takes to build up a plant is well, not quick to put it simply.

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thegyropath 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm pretty sure Taiwan makes a huge number of consumer grade chips; such as ones that would go into vehicles and other day to day items. But I could be wrong but to my understanding TSMC is the largest chip manufacturer in the world.

That's why during 2020/21 is was harder to get certain electronics due to the fact they were having a massive drought, since these fabs require a lot of fresh water to operate.

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Canadianon777 3 points ago +3 / -0

I believe that TSMC - Taiwan Semiconductor is one of two manufacturing bottlenecks in the semiconductor market, I don't know enough about chips to say, but my understanding is that TSMC and a Dutch company I believe are the two choke points in global supply, including to the US. Perhaps this issue needs a bit more digging, but if US chip manufacture requires components from either of these two for any reason, it makes the Taiwan issue extremely hot, because neither the US nor the CCP can afford to let the issue go, because victory in the AI and robotics arms races would therefore depend upon control of Taiwan.

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elcomedian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Devils advocate: that’s like saying we should support China because they make 95% of our pharmaceuticals

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thegyropath 3 points ago +3 / -0

On the reverse, pharmaceuticals to my knowledge don't require as much to start up with making as a chip fab does, so I'd say they're nothing alike.

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AngeredKabar 14 points ago +14 / -0

New hotness is Kosovo.

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NADSAQ 7 points ago +7 / -0

get in on the ground floor selling kosovo themed shanghai shit

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suitwo_wtr 5 points ago +5 / -0

Exactly, they will ignore it to the best of their ability. And the puppet has already made it clear that they are preparing to build chip factories which is clearly in response to this.

The NPCs will respond as they always do and be their tribalistic selves. I can already predict what they will say:

Oh you care about the wellbeing but not Ukraine huh. Why do you like Russia so much huh.

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patrioticwinning3 1 point ago +1 / -0

We all know it will be the chicom imagry :p

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caKAG 1 point ago +1 / -0

No way Hollywood, especially Disney, will be showcasing the Taiwan Flag. They wouldn't want to upset their Chinese Overlords and the money they give them. They will bend over backwards to support China.

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King4 98 points ago +100 / -2

I never stood with Ukraine, but I actually do stand with Taiwain. Taiwan preferably should be the one rulling all of china, and like give indepdence to Tibet and maybe other regions in the persian regions.

But if that cant happen and the CCP remains, taiwan should be its own recongized indepedent country just like Trump and Pompeo wants.

We need more DE-CENTRALIZATION of global political power, NOT more centralization.

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pikX 25 points ago +25 / -0

it's all about the sides and effects. taiwan is one of the ones using our flags to display their desire for freedom, and their enemy is the one that has our government in their pocket, not the other way around like ukraine.

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Rosarian 2 points ago +2 / -0

Cold hard cash is why the government gets into any war

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EagleI 1 point ago +1 / -0

This!

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SeawolfEmeralds 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well this place got real real today. Great work peds!  I didn't realize the simplistic joy in seeing 2 people pick apart the developing proxy award shows would have been such a joy until I saw it done in a way that exposes and destroys the ww3 axis power (usa/west/China)

It drew this seminy impossible map of the world that obliterated borders and it became the true way it is, the way it has become a war without borders

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BizzLostHisPassword 16 points ago +17 / -1

I stand with Taiwan too, but putting it in a social media bio/title is just cringe.

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oldhankdonald 5 points ago +5 / -0

I understand using social media bios is cringey in general but if PDW stands for anything after MAGA it’s fuck the CCP.

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BloodElfSupporter 15 points ago +15 / -0

As a Taiwanese American, I say thank you. I’m glad there are pedes who actually understand the difference between Taiwan and Ukraine.

My real allegiance is to my country, the USA, but as a naturalized citizen who still has family in Taiwan I’m glad there are other Americans who can understand the struggle Taiwan has faced/is in right now.

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Electricutie 4 points ago +6 / -2

I'm a Canadian chink, my parents were both from mainland china, and though I've always been very pro-Taiwan (even gotten into a few arguments with my parents about it) I've also been against the ukrainian government from the start of this war and even more against the siphoning of tax dollars to fund it.

And it honestly feels a bit paradoxical to me. I've always argued that we need to break up authoritarian governments, and the smaller and more local governance the better. I want Taiwan to be free and independent. I think most of its people want that. But... is it not just more funding of foreign proxy wars? I don't know.

Is the argument that ukraine's government is bad but taiwan's is good? Or that the people of ukraine want to be part of russia but the people of taiwan don't want to be part of china? It sounds kind of right, but it also doesn't seem quite that black and white.

My parents always argued that Taiwan was always part of china originally, and that there was an agreement to 'give it back'. But that so many people in that 'it' don't want to be given back, surely that needs to mean something, right? But then, I think of all the other places that have a sizeable population which wants to leave, like Scotland or my own country's Quebec and Alberta...

Honestly I have no idea. I'm extremely pro-Taiwan and anti-commie, but I'm also someone who strives to eliminate double-think and hypocrisy in my own ideas and beliefs when I can. And this is a bit of a bump in the road for me.

Or is it just simply that we shouldn't go to war with russia but we should go to war with china, therefore proxy war via ukraine is bad, but proxy war via taiwan is good?

I mean, I'd rather go to war with the WEF but china's up there too.

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RexCollumSilvarum 4 points ago +4 / -0

My parents always argued that Taiwan was always part of china originally, and that there was an agreement to 'give it back'. But that so many people in that 'it' don't want to be given back,

This seems to be a very CCP-centric framework through which to look at things; I wonder who got your parents to see it like that. As you know, Taiwan is the Republic of China -- or what is left of the Republic of China after the communists took the entire remainder of the country. Either Taiwan is the legitimate ruler of all of China and should be taking the mainland "back", or Taiwan is an independent country that the CCP continues to attempt to take over.

The 'give it back' concept makes no sense. Who would Taiwan be given "back" to? The CCP never owned Taiwan.

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Electricutie 1 point ago +2 / -1

They don't see it as giving it back to the CCP, but giving it back to china. They view it simply as making the country whole again. I think for most people like them (not commies, but not anti-CCP) it's got nothing to do with who's in charge or which party is which. To them it's no more complicated than "china is china".

I've tried to discuss with them why I'm so against the commies and their authoritarianism, but they just have a completely different perspective of governance, as I think a lot of mainland chinks probably share. Their argument is always that china is so much larger with so many more people that an 'iron fist' is necessary to keep everyone together and keep order. I argue that if it it takes that much authoritarianism and evil to keep something together, it should be broken apart.

But they're adamant that it remain whole. No matter the cost, I think. I don't agree with this position, but I do at least understand it. And it does remind me of the Lincoln quote, about doing whatever it takes to keep the union intact, with or without slavery. I don't necessarily agree with that sentiment, either, but I get it.

At the end of the day though, I'm firmly in favour of limited local governance. Fuck CCP and fuck WEF.

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pikX 0 points ago +1 / -1

there's something interesting to think about with that last line. who gains what in a war like that? if either china or russia falls, guess who is right next door to take over? that or the wef gets it. if the wef goes down, what happens? people get to buy their farmland back? i know it isn't that simple, but no matter what happens, if our enemy falls, our other enemy takes a large amount of the spoils. now, i know china and russia do share some alliance with each other, so they would likely fight to protect each other, which is its own whole can of worms. the best you can hope for is anything in u.s. soil to go back to the u.s..

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Rosarian 1 point ago +2 / -1

Taiwan has immense economic and strategic value to the US, and the Ukraine has none.

Most US wars are over money, if you delve into the real history.

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elcomedian 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ukraine has economic and strategic value to the US politicians

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Rosarian 3 points ago +3 / -0

That is why they are interfering there instead of Taiwan. I guess Taiwan didn't bribe them enough.

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TransracialActivist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Even though my own family is from Ukraine, I think it makes more sense for America to support Taiwan over Ukraine.

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EagleI 6 points ago +6 / -0

I dont want to go to war over it, but Taiwan makes way more sense than Ukraine. China is our biggest threat. Taiwan actually seems to support us. They make chips that are valuable to us. Ukraine is a globalist battleground where our politicians money launder.

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ProphetOfKek 3 points ago +5 / -2

We should rename taiwan China and call mainland China west-China.

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IncredibleMrE1 19 points ago +19 / -0

Or call mainland China "west Taiwan"

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ProphetOfKek 6 points ago +6 / -0

Even better

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catvideos3 33 points ago +35 / -2

Taiwan is actually useful. We should defend Taiwan. Ukraine is useless and a money pit.

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FromSethWithLove 17 points ago +17 / -0

Useless? Ukraine apparently supplies all of our gas and oil, wheat, fertilizer, aluminum, beef, chicken, semi conductors, real estate, used cars, and everything else made unaffordable by Putin's Price Hike

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ImNotaRussianBot 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol, Ukraine must be a glowing country with a booming economy! Oh wait...

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BallsackPaneer 27 points ago +28 / -1

We ain't got time for no Taiwan freedom around here. - Staci "Antifa Snackvan" Abrams.

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TrumpoWon2020 7 points ago +7 / -0

Snackvan 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Dictator_Bob 25 points ago +26 / -1

Will Rage Against the Machine come out for Taiwanese independence even after they abandon Tibet?

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leakmouth 33 points ago +33 / -0

They’re waiting for Colbert to tell them which machine to rage against

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Dictator_Bob 13 points ago +13 / -0

LOL

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DrJosephWarren 7 points ago +7 / -0

Damn near perfect commentary. Actually, it is perfect.

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RexCollumSilvarum 4 points ago +4 / -0

Rage In Favor Of The Machine will not be coming out for anything other than what the globalist want them to.

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Sea_Still 14 points ago +16 / -2

I don't give a fuck about either one of them

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3-10 13 points ago +13 / -0

I am pro-Taiwan, but you know that the NPCs will start talking like they've supported Taiwan and independence since 1949.

I mean, I haven't forgot that the Institute Pacific Relations was a bunch of Communists who with the help of the Democrats in Congress enabled Mao and his mass murderers to take power.

https://www.conservapedia.com/Institute_of_Pacific_Relations

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muppeton 9 points ago +9 / -0

I remember when the liberals used to be very pro-Tibet. Now you never hear anyone speak of it anymore.

I wouldn't be surprised if the media started hyping up anti-Taiwan propaganda and paint the people as a bunch of nazis.

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3-10 2 points ago +2 / -0

Azov Battalion looks on in disappointment

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Eric42 4 points ago +4 / -0

NPCs support who they are told to support. I doubt media will push for Taiwan independence, so they won't support them.

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me-no-likely3 9 points ago +9 / -0

I know it’s about to be a major NPC talking point, but I’ve always been pro-Taiwan because Taiwan founded by enemies of Communists and being in their side is being on the right side. Plus our economic future is going to reach third world status if the CCP seizes advanced chip production. In addition, the idea that the USA is a Super Power completely disappears if they seize Taiwan. We’re literally hanging by a thread at this point. We’ll be full 3rd world and literally eating our neighbor’s leftist ass for dinner

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Shamb3 2 points ago +2 / -0

Didn't ccp take over China after ww2? The people who fled to Tiwan were in charge and had a lot of losses in the war then CCP who barely did anything swooped in and took power.

IMO it's even money if the US Democrat / Communist party would defend them.

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RexCollumSilvarum 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is the correct understanding. The Republic of China (our ally in WWII) was pushed further and further out by the Communists until all they held was Taiwan (which was returned to them by the Japanese after WWII). The CCP has never controlled Taiwan, yet claims to want to take it "back". That logic is itself CCP propaganda.

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MobileDev4Trump 9 points ago +9 / -0

I just hope we get those Arizona chip manufacturing plants up and running before Taiwan gets invaded. We'll probably have to hire a lot them to save the industry.

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youknowthething76 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly why not just bring the people with the specific knowledge here? That's one immigration exception I'm willing to make

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MobileDev4Trump 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've read an article about how we were trying to send people over to Taiwan for training but no one wanted to do it. It's really sad we've become a service industry that produces nothing but I guess that's a result of our reserve currency status.

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BabbleRabble 8 points ago +8 / -0

Nope. Commies don't support real freedom fighters.

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pizz11 2 points ago +2 / -0

This right here. If Taiwan was for freedom why are the dems supporting them?

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AE1989 7 points ago +9 / -2

It's all so tiresome

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Newuser99 5 points ago +5 / -0

I love Taiwan. Fuck China

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SuperPendejoBros 5 points ago +5 / -0

Taiwan is the real China.

The fact Ukraine is being funded and Taiwan....China has their hand up our collective ass.

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TioVanilla 5 points ago +5 / -0

If CCP declared, then Vietnam, Japan, So Korea will fight too, so we will too. Edit: which is why CCP will cuck out

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cantrememberpassword 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'll stand with Taiwan. Somehow this tiny nation has held off Chinese invasion for generations. Seems like the left calls Taiwan the Hawaii of China. Which is strange.

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leakmouth 4 points ago +5 / -1

Sorry. The Ministry of Truth just informed me that we’ve always been at war with Taiwan.

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FreedomDeliveries 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nope. you will not see this. Hilariously backward that we've sent 500+ billion to one of the most corrupt countries on earth, one that we have little to no official ties to, and yet Tiawan, a country we have a formal treaty with, and an agreement with China about that China has already broken, is actively ignored and suppressed. Free Taiwan is America First policy and as such the chinese controlled anti-americans hate it. I wouldn't be surprised if Pelosi is going over there to meet with the Chinese dictators and talk about ways they can have Taiwan.

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BasedBabe1776 4 points ago +4 / -0

No. The establishment will never talk about free Taiwan so neither will the sheep. They are in too deep with China. Keep moving.

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RedPillosopher1776 4 points ago +4 / -0

I doubt it since the left sucks communist chinas cock.

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johnqpublic864 4 points ago +4 / -0

Funny, but I doubt it.

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Pray_for_Trump 4 points ago +4 / -0

In actuality we really NEED to stand with Taiwan. Ukraine is a SH--HOLE, but Taiwan has immense strategic and economic value to the USA and the Pacific Ocean as a whole.

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buckeyeminuteman 4 points ago +4 / -0

Taiwan I can get behind. Ukraine is a quagmire of corruption.

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Captain-D 3 points ago +3 / -0

Free Tibet

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Hickory 2 points ago +2 / -0

Vote for Ross Perot :)

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DRKMSTR 3 points ago +3 / -0

The major difference is Taiwan isn't anywhere near as corrupt.

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44-MAGANUM 3 points ago +3 / -0

I would be happy to see people switch their Ukraine profile pics to Taiwan pics, if social medial gods will allow it. Even though they are bandwagonners, they can be useful bandwagoners.

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Scooby 3 points ago +3 / -0

I support Taiwan. Fuck Ukraine.

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TheImpossible1 3 points ago +5 / -2

I hope both collapse.

It'll be funny watching Intel get fucked.

We believe in a future that's female

Intel, 8th March 2022.

Maybe they should beg women to save their factories from the PLA.

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Tyrone_biggums 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wasn’t Intel one of the only tech giants—or the only one—not to instate a covid injection mandate?

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FormerGraveheart 1 point ago +1 / -0

That may be, but AMD is the one without their own fabs, using TSMC's fabs in Taiwan. I hate Intel too, and have ever since their anticompetitive behavior in the early 2000s, but AMD is fucked if TSMC goes down.

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gillonba 3 points ago +3 / -0

What, leftists standing against a communist country? Not likely. Very low IQ meme! Sad!

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DonttrustChina 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol, no way. Defending Taiwan and fighting communist expansion is actually in American interests, they'll roll over and let China have it.

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Undying 2 points ago +2 / -0

I actually do stand with Taiwan. Any freedom loving country is ok in my book.

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HKgoneWild 2 points ago +2 / -0

Folks "stand" with so many people without even realizing that they're bent over a barrel.

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Wintergreen 2 points ago +3 / -1

I stand with Taiwan because it is an actual, functional Westernized Republic. Also you don't see the degeneracy coming out of them the way you do the rest of the West. Also, the semiconductors.

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BigRedPillMachine 2 points ago +2 / -0

Taiwan has more of a history independent of China than Ukraine has ever had from Russia. Red China is more butthurt because they never truly finished off Kai Shek and his government.

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Julia_J 1 point ago +2 / -1

What has "history of being independent" have to do with it? Time is just a number. With your logic, you can claim the US still belongs to the UK and that it's independence is invalid because the country is so young.

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SboneyLovesGod 2 points ago +2 / -0

Taiwan is actually a country, a government, worth defending. Ukraine may have innocent civs, but obviously the govt is majorly corrupt.

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Genericwhitemale 2 points ago +2 / -0

They're not even in the same league. Taiwan won't get 1/10 of the attention. Lets see Bing add a "war in Taiwan" flag on their homepage. Oh and the other 100 companies, lets see them add a "support Taiwan efforts" banner on their sites.

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detransthrowaway 2 points ago +2 / -0

except that one actually has a point.

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Suture_Self 2 points ago +2 / -0

They aren't going to stand with Taiwan. The media will somehow twist the story and make Taiwan the bad guys. Either that or they'll cover it up and they just won't mention it at all. They aren't going to be programmed by China to stand against China.

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ClownWorldTimeline 2 points ago +2 / -0

Taiwan is based AF. I love them. NPCs will probably start calling them racist names soon.

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DroolBuckets 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have had the Taiwan flag up since February. Biden has tripled-down that he does not support Taiwan independence. We just need to give them a hypersonic missile capable of hitting Three Gorges Dam.

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Easzq8 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nah, NPCs side with China.

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Chuj 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lol. A shame to cover the face off the girl in blue, though. I so love her look of incredulity

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Striganos 2 points ago +2 / -0

HAha seriously the dems will never be against china.

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MAGA-Fett 2 points ago +2 / -0

I believe in the One China policy. That Taiwan is the legitimate government of all China.

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FerkenBlerkin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Even a broken clock's right twice a day. We need an independent Taiwan.

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Not_your_King 2 points ago +2 / -0

Taiwan is not Ukraine, China is not Russia. You all are siding with the Woke Commie Cult. Where'd you get this meme the Pentagon?

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crackerstacker 2 points ago +2 / -0

Taiwan is to a much higher degree a place worth fighting for tho.

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AgnesDomini 2 points ago +2 / -0

Except Biden administration on record saying not for Taiwan independence...