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PartandParcel 128 points ago +133 / -5

What fight? Ukraine stands no chance against Russia even with Xiden funding the proxy war. The whole thing is a money laundering psyop.

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ProphetOfKek 76 points ago +78 / -2

We paid 50 billion to bring fag marriage to Ukraine

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Elencher 44 points ago +46 / -2

For 3 days before Russia removes it again, to the cheering applause of the 90% of Ukranians who aren't on board with globohomo.

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voiceofsanity 10 points ago +12 / -2

Fake news, it was just a petition, marriage laws can't be changed when martial law is declared.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 5 points ago +5 / -0

No, we only paid for a civil partnership so far. Zelensky wants more money to actually allow them to marry.

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ProphetOfKek 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh! Well then by all means, let’s drain the treasuries!

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Yawnz13 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Losing"

Funny, I don't see many pictures of bodies from either side, be they soldiers or civilians.

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Yawnz13 0 points ago +1 / -1

Might be a war crime for belligerents to take them.

Poor excuse. Why would we assume that only "belligerents" or reporters are the only ones capable of taking pictures? Who's going to arrest someone even if they were?

Neither source is going to be worth a shit here. We've already seen plenty of lies about the war (Snake Island, Ghost of Kiev, etc.)

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Yawnz13 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Opinion"

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doug2 2 points ago +2 / -0

LOL

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Grindelwald 21 points ago +21 / -0

But I see signs, bumper stickers, lemonade stands and flags all over town supporting Ukraine's plight over the evil Putin.

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Taco_of_Kiev 29 points ago +29 / -0

I love debating those people. Had an argument yesterday. Then: “so you support Putin?”

Me: “no, I simply don’t give a shit. Not my country. Let me ask you something… would you consider Afghanistan to have been an incredibly costly and expensive blunder?”

Then: “yes.”

Me: “you are aware we’ve sent more money to Ukraine in the last six months than we spent for the first 6-7 years of that war?”

Them: “but don’t you even care about democracy?”

Me: “who? Ukraine? Ukraine isn’t anything even close to a democracy, they’re a single party oligarchy.”

Them: “Arrghh! What the fuck are you talking about?”

Me: “Zelensky literally banned all opposition parties a month or two ago. Do you have any idea what the hell you’re talking about? Next you’re going to start with the ethnic cleansing denier crap, aren’t you?”

Them: “I have to go”

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Grindelwald 8 points ago +8 / -0

I think Zelenskyy has been given orders to catch up with Trudeau.

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Pickinpox 1 point ago +1 / -0

Guarantee it was a stipulation that Dems put in before the funding would go thru.

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AngryAsian 6 points ago +7 / -1

Ask them if they remember Kiev trying to fuck up the Russians in Crimea essentially forcing Russia to enter Ukraine. And when they admit they dont, be like, dude that was like 5 years ago. Can you really not remember past the last tiktok you watched

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conservativefrank 3 points ago +3 / -0

I remember talking to someone who voted for Obama. I asked him why he liked Obamacare. He didn't know what it was. When I explained it, he replied, "Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????"

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voiceofsanity -11 points ago +2 / -13

Let's talk about democracy in Russia.

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Taco_of_Kiev 20 points ago +20 / -0

Personally, I think (as did the founders) that democracy (as a form of government) is a guarantee of tyranny. I’m fine with it being eradicated.

We’re a constitutional republic with a democratic VOTING process to select REPRESENTATIVES. The constitution doesn’t compel government to guarantee the states a “democratic” form of government, it specifically charges them with guaranteeing a republican form of government.

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Zepp87 7 points ago +7 / -0

Last time I told a libtard something along those lines, "so you want nobody to vote, quite fascist of you"

Literal facepalm moment.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 3 points ago +3 / -0

Two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

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Talon54 8 points ago +8 / -0

Why? We don't live in a democracy either. Have you ever actually read the Constitution? We live in a constitutional republic.

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UsernameChexOut 7 points ago +7 / -0
  1. I would argue that Russia not having "democracy" is overall a good thing for the country.
  2. "Democracy" in its purest form is a cancer. The inventors of democracy fucking knew that and the founding fathers were acutely aware of that as well. Hence why we don't live in a "democracy" now.
  3. I think when people put "democracy" up on a pedestal, what they are imagining are these "libertarian" principles of freedom and liberty and choice. However, what they ACTUALLY end up advocating for is "democracy" in its sickest form where 50% + 1 person end up effectively enslaving everyone else.
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Pickinpox 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why?

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voiceofsanity -11 points ago +3 / -14

Not opposition parties, but pro-Russian opposition, i.e. traitors paid by Russia. Other normal opposition parties continue to work as usual.

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Taco_of_Kiev 13 points ago +13 / -0

They banned 11 parties. There is no legal opposition.

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voiceofsanity -7 points ago +4 / -11

There were 5 fractions in parliament of Ukraine (Rada). Only one of them is banned. These 11 you are talking about are communist and socialist pro-Russian ones only. https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/two-more-pro-russian-parties-banned-in-ukraine.html

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voiceofsanity -7 points ago +1 / -8

A significant number of Ukrainians identify as Russians.

It does not mean that all of them are not loyal to Ukraine and support Russia. Many Russians fight in Ukrainian army.

These parties were able to exist before the war, during a wartime, when martial law is declared some democratic rights can be temporarily limited.

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FormerGraveheart 9 points ago +10 / -1

^ Pro-Ukraine shill.

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Trump420__MagaKing -1 points ago +2 / -3

How dare he state facts!

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 4 points ago +4 / -0

My small town had a tranny street violinist playing and pledging to donate all of his tip money to "help Ukraine".

Top that one!

🤡🌎

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RedditIs4Retards 18 points ago +19 / -1

It's always funny to me that people claim Ukraine is destroying Russia... While Zelensky keeps begging for money and help, and legalizing fag marriage

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conservativefrank 3 points ago +3 / -0

Begging from his mansion while telling Americans we spend too much time worrying about inflation.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 2 points ago +2 / -0

Misleadia gaslighting and propaganda is effective and useful idiots are dumb.

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Goldlight 14 points ago +14 / -0

it's mostly just get shelled by russias for 3 days straight and then be overrun after you've already lost 40% of your unit

from what I've been told the ukrainian army is just conscripts at this point and most of their regulars and veterans are dead which means they really can't do anything but defend

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Pickinpox 7 points ago +7 / -0

Well there are adept at hiding in civilian quarters and shelling from there

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Goldlight 1 point ago +1 / -0

I guess that's why the russians didn't fully encircle those two cities north of dontesk

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UsernameChexOut 4 points ago +4 / -0

Based on what I gathered from my research on this:

  1. seems like Russians tend to wait until 70-80% of the units are gone before they attack
  2. It does seem like the regular Ukrainian army is mostly done at this point. Based on my understanding, the only remaining trained military left is artillery, leadership, drone pilots, etc. Basically back line personnel. Front line seems to be all conscripts now. Really the only thing that they are accomplishing at this point is funneling more bodies in there so Russians spend a bit more time bombing them to get to that 70-80% mark.
  3. The only personnel remaining with fighting experience are the nationalist battalions which are now mainly used on the back line to stop the conscripts from retreating.
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Jimmyprawns 3 points ago +3 / -0

Seems like the greatest ally Putin has right now are all the libtards who are 'supporting' Ukraine. They've propped up a paper tiger regime and set it up for public failure, embarrassment and destruction, while lining their own pockets, and virtue signaling at fuzzy balls level 5. All while offering up the Russian army's only speed bump to them on a silver platter to be liquidated. Because let's face it, there was never any real intent to back Ukraine in any meaningful way. And deep down inside, the DNC still has a hard on for Putin.

The Dems have 'helped' Ukraine the way an enabler 'helps' an addict destroy themselves. Not enough money to over-dose? Here take a few thousand bucks and party yourself into oblivion, maybe even take a few other addicts with you on your way to the reaper.

Instead of letting them get a bloody nose, loose a few acres and find a new status quo, maybe even encourage them to "clean their own bedroom," we've egged them on and on and on. We've effectively backed them into a corner out of which total subjugation is now their only available timeline.

Meanwhile, the vultures of this world are having a black market feeding frenzie. I would argue to all the tards that the Israelis involved are buying up what they can to keep the Palestinians from getting it using it against them but there is way too much flotsam afloat around this ship wreck for anyone to make a dent. There will be plenty of toys in circulation for a couple decades worth of bad actors across the globe. And all of it will have serial numbers traceable to NATO member countries.

All the cold war leftovers were wearing out and drying up so something had to be done I guess. Something to make the west look bad and cause more damage than a pile of 50yr old, rusted AKs.

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UsernameChexOut 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yup, that is very good and thoughtful analysis. The left at this point is Putin's best friend. They are destroying their own countries by more and more spending and also as you said, backing Ukraine into a corner where the only resolution at this stage is Ukraine being completely overrun. They could've walked away from it by recognizing Crimea, losing 2 provinces and not joining NATO. They could've laundered their money in peace for eternity. Now, it's really just a matter of time until Ukraine runs out of bodies to stock the trenches with, at which point the whole country will collapse.

Almost everyone will benefit from this. Western leaders will get massive kickbacks, Putin will get Ukraine and a better economy (stronger currency and money money for gas and oil), Zelensky and his oligarch buddies will rob the country blind and then run off to US and UK right before the Russians take the country. Really, the only losers here are the people, both in Ukraine sand in the West. People in the US sand Europe will get shit economy and become poor. And Ukrainians will end up dying in the trenches so everyone else can get rich. Fucking idiots.

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Goldlight 2 points ago +2 / -0
  1. would explain why it's taking so long
  2. didn't the soviet NKVD do this too?
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UsernameChexOut 2 points ago +2 / -0
  1. Yup, it doesn't make sense to move any faster. Urban fighting is difficult and bloody. No need to storm cities and lose your own troops when the retarded enemy brings their troops to you and puts them into trenches in the middle of an open fucking field to get pummeled by artillery. The best thing for Ukraine to do would be to give Russia all the land and hole up in the major cities. That's how you know this war is a joke for Ukrainian and NATO leadership because they aren't actually doing anything productive. They are just using the people as speed bumps so they can launder money for a few more months.
  2. Yup, believe so during WWII. You get shot if you retreat.
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Goldlight 1 point ago +1 / -0

For 2 I just remember there being 'blocking detachments' for soviet soldiers to prevent retreat, not sure if they were shot or not though.

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MR_ROBOT1776 3 points ago +3 / -0

Reeeee you’re not allowed to say this! Russia has collapsed already and is doing way worse than anywhere on Earth!

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bubadmt 59 points ago +60 / -1

Looks like they need another 40 trillion dollars!

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x79q3pb 16 points ago +17 / -1

Just give them every dollar, accelerate!

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bubadmt 13 points ago +13 / -0

Zelensky to be appointed chair of the Federal Reserve and the US Treasury.

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x79q3pb 5 points ago +5 / -0

Give him World Bank and IMF too.

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DieHeretic 4 points ago +4 / -0

He's already got the most important box ticked, might as well hire him on.

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flyover_deplorable 44 points ago +44 / -0

I thought they already won?

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BoughtByBloomberg2 37 points ago +37 / -0

Of course silly. That's why all the soldiers are going home.

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CrispyQuesoSalami 7 points ago +7 / -0

Yep.

The Russians have lost over 6 gorillion men, 2.17 gorillion BMPs/Tanks and other PutPuts. They've lost so many planes, that they're in the negative, so at least the next 1 gorillion planes they manufacture will just spontaneously combust.

At least half of the remaining Russian troops have asked for a sexual audience with Zelensky, where they will kneel and sign affidavits of defection.

Nicholas Cage and the ghost of Sean Connery are actually on the ground in Ukraine, and they are carrying out super extra deep black operational movements [SEDBOM] under the command of Sean Penn and Ben Stiller to sabotage Russian rocket systems. And I assure you...this has been SO EFFECTIVE.

Half of all Russian military age males alive today, are dead. They cannot fill their ranks anymore even with a draft.

It's fucking OVER! Russia is fucked! Bro!

But Ukraine still needs the rest of your money, because otherwise democracy as we know it is fucking finished.

Slobber Ukraini!

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catsfive 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, to Bandera where they belong.

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GenericInsult 19 points ago +19 / -0

I know right? All we hear from our never-lying MSM is that Ukraine is crushing Russia every day.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 5 points ago +5 / -0

I was talking to some old dude the other day and he brought up Russia getting their asses kicked in Ukraine. The misleadia has these idiots fully programmed to believe anything.

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rcstl 2 points ago +2 / -0

ever-lying MSM

FIFY

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BurgerMan 3 points ago +3 / -0

Just more 40 billions (10% for the big guy) and victory is within grasp.

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Induceddrag 1 point ago +1 / -0

We have given the Ukrainians more than the entire Russian annual military budget.

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Julius_Severus2 34 points ago +37 / -3

Idiots think the American government is helping Ukrainians by using them as cannon fodder in a proxy war

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ultra-tera-maga 20 points ago +21 / -1

"Straight white male Christian's killing straight while male Christian's? Shut up and take my neighbor's property!"

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Bobf 33 points ago +34 / -1

My favorite part of this war was when the rainbow reddit warriors got pulped by russian missiles. Kids: don't take selfies in a war zone!

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x79q3pb 15 points ago +15 / -0

Shhhh, let them!

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EDDIT_IS_CUCKED 8 points ago +8 / -0

Thanks for the reminder. That certainly was an ironic turn of events for those reeeetards.

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CrispyQuesoSalami 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yet....totally expected.

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ThinkingAboutYou 3 points ago +3 / -0

Anyone have any videos of reddit trannies being slaughtered? Could use a good laugh right now

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President_Elect_Marx 25 points ago +25 / -0

Time for more American libs to join the fight!

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AllYouHaveIsYourself 10 points ago +10 / -0

Remember when some fucking Redditor freaks "joined" the fight at the beginning and ended up disclosing positions for themselves and Ukrainian soldiers?

The purple haired basement dwellers need to know their place, which is behind the computer screen watching Hentai, while elbow deep in Doritos.

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President_Elect_Marx 4 points ago +4 / -0

I would not encourage them to know their place.

They need to know they’re strong and can make a difference!

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ascension4humanity 4 points ago +4 / -0

True. But not as entertaining. ;)

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Jimmyprawns 2 points ago +2 / -0

A pretty high percentage do just that as a matter of fact.

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antifaforjail -8 points ago +1 / -9

That would the perfect dream! Russian scumbag terrorists and mentally-ill, America-hating leftoids killing each other. Now that would be entertaining!

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ThinkingAboutYou 5 points ago +5 / -0

Ahhh someone is sad they can't simp for ukraine and keeeeeeeev anymore

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antifaforjail -4 points ago +1 / -5

Why would you be upset that leftoids and commies kill each other?

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BeefyBelisarius 5 points ago +5 / -0

Russia gave up communism back in the 80s. That's why western commies hate them so much.

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antifaforjail -3 points ago +1 / -4

Sure sure, buddy. What's next? Will you tell me that a man cutting his dick off makes him a woman?

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BeefyBelisarius 4 points ago +4 / -0

I see you're a product of public schools and too young to remember the end of the Cold War.

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antifaforjail -3 points ago +1 / -4

I see you're a product of public schools...

And what's wrong with Lithuanian public schools? They don't teach that globohomo bullshit there, unlike in yours...

...too young to remember the end of the Cold War.

True. But my whole family were living on the shitty side of the Iron Curtain for a significant portion of their lives, and they can attest - russians never stopped being commies. It's true that they made some changes economically, but mentally they were always the commies. And are now - stronger than ever.

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Klown_Schwab 15 points ago +20 / -5

I don't want to be one of those FACT CHECK wankers but gatewaypundit has a history of publishing... questionable... stories

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fat50 15 points ago +16 / -1

They're right more than they're wrong.

That's more than what we can say about the MSM.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tabloids are now more accurate than the mainstream misleadia.

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CommieCucker 6 points ago +7 / -1

When you're prolific, that'll happen -- nothing wrong with vetting the stories, but Jim Hoft is the guy that runs it, and he's tight with Bannon (who is arguably more MAGA than Trump)

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RaberContour 4 points ago +6 / -2

Ok, but this isn't one of them. If you support us funding the war in Ukraine, you're a traitor

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WhoWillJesusDestroy 4 points ago +5 / -1

No reasoning with boomers. Nothing gets them going like the youth getting blown apart for globohomo while they watch sportsball

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TheImpossible1 2 points ago +4 / -2

It's not boomers who are supporting this. It's women.

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LordCommissarYarrick 3 points ago +4 / -1

They have telegram links and rumble videos on the article, which is more than what they normally have. And Ukraine has been getting its ass beat.

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chinita_atx 1 point ago +2 / -1

I've seen a lot of videos of Ukrops refusing to fight because they have no weapons. It's usually (1) they only have rifles to fight artillery (2) their officers left them (3) they have no food (4) they've run out of ammunition.

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SomaliSwede_RapeBaby 15 points ago +21 / -6

GO RUSSIA!

-The Confederate States of Texas

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libman 14 points ago +18 / -4

Both Russia and we are fighting the GloboHomo commies.

Ukrainian Bolsheviks stole Russian regions and people without their consent.

Novorossiya (including Donbas) was stolen in 1917. Crimea was stolen by Khrushchev (a Ukrainian) in the 50s, and again in the 90s.

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Klown_Schwab 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Ukrainian" Bolsheviks

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libman 4 points ago +5 / -1

"Ukrainian" Bolsheviks

Yes. What else do you call people like Khrushchev (who stole Crimea), Brezhnev, etc...

The vast majority of ethnic Russians supported the Whites over the Reds in the Russian Civil War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War

In Ukraine it was one gang of commies vs the other: Symon Petliura (nationalist commies), Olga Taratuta (anarchist commies), Nestor Makhno (even-more-anarchist commies), Grigory Zinoviev (Lenin's commies), etc, etc, etc.

Ironically it was Russian White Guard Officers that didn't speak a word of Ukrainian that made Kiev's last stand against communism after the Imperial Germans and their puppet Skoropadsky had fled.

The Reds were Russia-hating ethnic minorities and malcontents, funded by Russia's enemies abroad (ironically from both sides of WW1). Trotsky and most other Bolsheviks were paid by England. Lenin was more German than anything else, paid and sent to Russia by the Kaiser.

Over-represented among the Reds were ethnic Ukrainians, Georgians, and especially Jews (my own ethnic group). Ashkenazi Jews were the most effective Revolutionaries due to thousands of years of natural selection favoring both intelligence and chutzpah, fueled by centuries of political conflict with the Russian monarchy.

NONE of the top Revolutionary terrorists were Russian. The most important among them was of course Trotsky. Dmitry Bogrov (who assassinated Stolypin in Kiev) was a Ukrainian Jew.

NONE of the top Soviet leaders were ethnically Russian. Lenin was a mix of many ethnicities (German, Swiss, Swedish, Chuvash, Kalmyk, Ashkenazi, and a little Russian). Stalin was Georgian / Ossetian. The rest were Ukrainians.

Yeltsin, Putin, and Medvedev were the first ethnically Russian leaders of Russia in a very, very long time...

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Klown_Schwab 2 points ago +2 / -0

especially Jews (my own ethnic group). Ashkenazi Jews were the most effective Revolutionaries due to thousands of years of natural selection favoring both intelligence and chutzpah, fueled by centuries of political conflict with the Russian monarchy.

Marx hung around with Moses Hess.

Both were trying to solve the JQ. (This was common parlance at time - eg The Jewish Question.. The Irish Question...)

Hess started out as a socialist but decided the Jews will never be able to integrate into Europe so he started Zionism and said it's better for Jews to leave and start their own country.

Marx took the opposite approach - workers of the world unite = abolish ethnic and religious distinctions = Jews "integrate"

imo that's why Jews were so overrepresented in the early Bolshevik revolutionaries (although they were later purged by Stalin)

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antifaforjail -8 points ago +1 / -9

Damn, what a retarded take: russian commies "fighting" globohomo commies...

Comedy gold right here.

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libman 5 points ago +6 / -1

Brainless paid trolls calling the 21st century's greatest ANTI-communist heroes """commies""" should get the belt sander, arms and legs first.

Calling Putin """commie""" is like calling George Washington a British Monarchist!

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antifaforjail -6 points ago +1 / -7

Brainless putler dick suckers thinking that a terrorist state, which has just recently been the most disgusting communist regime, and now has president who weeps for Soviet Union, calling it's dissolution "a greatest geopolitical catastrophe of 20th century"; it's average citizen longing for the "great Soviet times" is now suddenly, somehow "anti-communist". Now that's another nugget of comedy gold!!

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libman 3 points ago +5 / -2

Brainless putler dick suckers

If you hate Putin, you hate Trump, period.

Both are pragmatic compromise candidates against the commies.

Both are fighting the exact same enemy.

thinking that a terrorist state,

The Swamp is a terrorist state.

It overthrows governments and installs puppets all over the world.

It steals trillions of dollars a year from its own people to bomb Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Yugoslavia, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

It had control of Russia through Yeltsin in the 1990s, and it stabbed his supporters (like myself) in the back!

Russia ended the Cold War, but NATO (like the SJW movements) have no brakes - they keep growing and turn into cancer.

It funded the Chechen terrorists that killed hundreds of Russian civilians in the 90s.

It funded the people that did 9/11.

It funds the billion-dollar lie factories that attack Trump and Putin 24/7.

which has just recently been the most disgusting communist regime,

Russia-hating scum imposed that regime. Tens of millions of Russians died fighting against it. Russians finally prevailed in 1991.

and now has president who weeps for Soviet Union, calling it's dissolution "a greatest geopolitical catastrophe of 20th century";

Have you never heard of the Russia that existed before 1917?!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire

Putin is the Russian equivalent of MAGA.

His role model is Stolypin, famous for hanging communists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Stolypin

(Until he was assassinated in Kiev, and it wasn't by a Russian...)

The 20th century has obviously been a great geopolitical catastrophe for Russia.

But no one is talking about the parts that don't want to rejoin Russia (Alaska, Finland, Poland, Ukraine Proper, etc, etc, etc).

We're only talking about SELF-DETERMINATION - for the Russian parts that do want to rejoin, or at least be independent from Western empires (like Belarus, Kazakhstan, etc).

it's average citizen longing for the "great Soviet times"

GloboHomo propaganda.

The majority of Russians voted against the Communist Party in every free election they ever had, retard.

is now suddenly, somehow "anti-communist".!

You are an illiterate retard.

Yeltsin literally killed Communist usurpers in 1993!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis

Maybe you also think Pinochet and Trump are communists too...

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antifaforjail -4 points ago +2 / -6

Thank you for your attempt at propaganda. Sadly for you I'm immune to your russian bullshit (which, in fact, is really similar to that of leftists).

And no, if I hate the terrorist state of russia that doesn't mean that I don't love America, Trump and all that they stand for.

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libman 3 points ago +4 / -1

"Lol" is not an argument.

There are no logical arguments for Kiev stealing parts of Russia and suppressing secession referendums.

You had 30+ years to come up with one. You've failed.

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antifaforjail -5 points ago +1 / -6

Russian propaganda is also not an argument. Try again.

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libman 3 points ago +4 / -1

Calling a rational, factual, sound argument """foreign propaganda""" and ignoring its substance is a classic communist thought-termination cliche.

You and your fellow sockpuppets have no counter-arguments, ever.

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antifaforjail -5 points ago +1 / -6

Also calling propaganda "rational, factual, sound argument" doesn't make it actually rational, factual and sound. It just makes you a liar and a commie.

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antifaforjail -5 points ago +1 / -6

Because there's no "counter-argument" to blatant, leftist-like propaganda spewed by russian terrorists. There's no negotiation and no discussion with terrorists.

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antifaforjail -5 points ago +1 / -6

Answer me this then: would you still fellate putler if he invaded US?

Oh, silly question... Of course you would...

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libman 2 points ago +4 / -2

Answer me this then: would you still fellate putler if he invaded US?

"This is an apple" - pointing at an apple, growing on an apple tree.

"Would you still call it an apple if it had horns and went moo?"

"No, I wouldn't, I'd probably call it a bull. But this is an apple."

🙄

I support SELF-DETERMINATION for all regions.

Always have. Always will.

It has nothing to do with Putin.

https://mises.org/wire/hoppe-my-dream-europe-which-consists-1000-liechtensteins

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libman -1 points ago +1 / -2

Russian propaganda is also not an argument.

If Russia says 2 + 2 == 4, will you claim it's 5?

A brainwashed retard like you probably will...

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GodEmporerTrump 13 points ago +14 / -1

Soon as ground freezes Russia will face fuck them, ground is too wet for mass travel right now

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chinita_atx 11 points ago +12 / -1

The Russians are already doing that right now with artillery. One Ukrop said that they are getting hit with 6,500 shells 24/7 for 6 days straight. He said when artillery stops then the planes come. There are videos of the simultaneous hits on the defense lines of Ukraine. It's terrifyingly beautiful. Mainstream media won't cover it because they don't want to have to discuss that Russia is the master of artillery bar none. They're beating NATO and NATO weapons via Ukraine.

Russia came in soft thinking Ukrainians would be reasonable and treat them brotherly-like. When the Russian POW execution videos started coming in, that steeled their reserve and even those against the war in Russia was just like "get it done". The Donbass wound has been festering for 8 years.

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ThinkingAboutYou 7 points ago +7 / -0

Russia is still going soft on them. They have power, internet and running water.

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BillionsAndBillions 2 points ago +2 / -0

Vogue photo shoots and Bono concerts...

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catsfive 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's how we know it's an SMO and not an invasion.

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FormerGraveheart 1 point ago +2 / -1

I want to see these videos: do you have any links?

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antifaforjail -11 points ago +2 / -13

Why do you cheer for russian terrorists?

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FormerGraveheart 10 points ago +11 / -1

Why do you shill for the globohomo Ukrainian government?

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antifaforjail -10 points ago +1 / -11

"Ukrainian government"

"Globohomo"

Pick one.

You're free to explain me how being against faggotry, communism, authoritarianism and other bullshit which happens in current unelected US government, is "being globohomo"?

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TheRougarou 6 points ago +6 / -0

The legitimately elected government of Ukraine was overthrown years ago by the CIA and US politicians, and the Zelenski puppet regime was installed so that corrupt politicians could use the count to as a money laundering piggy bank. It is the literal definition of globohomo. Not to mention they are cross dressing nazi faggots. I hope Putin hangs them all.

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antifaforjail -4 points ago +1 / -5

CIA and US politicians

Didn't know that were there over 2 million of CIA agents and US politicians in Ukraine, but thank you for your information.

Zelenski puppet regime

Ironic words are ironic. Ukraine is a country which never had president serving two terms. Compare that to the terrorist state of russia which is run by unelected pedo emperor putler for decades now:

He served two terms, then installed his butt buddy medvedev, because putler couldn't serve two consecutive terms then yet. Then increased the term duration to 6 years, rigged elections to win again two times in a row, and now recently single-handedly changed the system so he could serve two more 6 year terms.

Not to mention his only friends are literal authoritarian dictators of Belarus and North Korea.

So tell me, which of the two actually is a regime?

Also, why are you pro-war then? And if you kiss putler's ass, does that mean that you're pro-election rigging?

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libman -1 points ago +1 / -2

This retard can't read.

PUPPET means controlled by an outside government, as Zelensky clearly is. It has nothing to do with being popular (Putin has >80% approval rating) and getting reelected over the liberals and commies.

You are pro-war, retard. We are pro-referendum, which Ukraine should have allowed 30 years ago. Like Brexit. The GloboHomo Empire started this war, because it knows it would lose a democratic referendum.

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libman -1 points ago +1 / -2

You are too retarded to be considered human.

The Ukrainian government is controlled by the forces of Globalist Homogeneity (GloboHomo), like EU, NATO, WEF, World Bank, etc. The new mixed-economy ComIntern 2.0.

They overthrew the Ukrainian government twice when people who weren't entirely their puppets got elected.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 7 points ago +7 / -0

Is that you, Zelensky?

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BillionsAndBillions 3 points ago +3 / -0

Handshake defend Ukraine passionately. He forget use articles when speak English. Is American Trump supporter. You believe, yes?

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antifaforjail -8 points ago +1 / -9

Is that you, gay pedo putler, who kiss little boys?

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libman 5 points ago +6 / -1

Is that you, gay pedo putler, who kiss little boys?

Putin has an (ex)wife and at least two kids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Putina

22 years of being in front of cameras 10-50+ hours a week.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_kissing

Innocently tummy-kissed one toddler, as a normal Russian parent might.

Retards spewing kidsniffer Biden's propaganda shouldn't be talking...

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antifaforjail -8 points ago +1 / -9

Many closeted homos, like you, have wife and kids. So?

Retards spewing kidsniffer Biden's propaganda shouldn't be talking...

And I like how retarded you've become: "It's not okay for Biden to be a pedo because I don't like him (nobody does), but it's okay for putler to be a pedo because I like him very much!! In fact, I like him so much I can justify terrorism, war-mongering and genocide he is doing, because I like him so much!"

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libman 7 points ago +8 / -1

but it's okay for putler to be a pedo

Zero evidence Putin is a pedo.

Plus he's not the type.

He spent his youth being a Soviet Spook (like how Trump was a New York Democrat, or George Washington was a British Officer before he was anti-British, except Putin had no choice). What do you think Soviet Spook agencies do to pedos?

Ukraine is famously the child prostitution brothel of Europe.

Russia has famously implemented very strict child protection laws under Putin.

because I like him very much!!

If you were literate, you would see that I supported right-of-Putin opposition in every election.

In fact, I like him so much I can justify terrorism, war-mongering and genocide he is doing, because I like him so much!"

Retards throwing words like monkeys throw poop.

Russia spent 30 years trying to diplomatically solve Ukraine stealing half its territory from Russia against the will of the people that live there!

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BillionsAndBillions 1 point ago +1 / -0

How many more U.S. tax dollars you need, Ukraine? $100B? $500B? You will win, any day now, for democracy, yes? Maybe $5T? It's just 2 generations more of filthy Americans' tax dollars. Here, take it. Take it all.

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antifaforjail -2 points ago +1 / -3

Let's see:

You let the evil empire of Soviet Union to flourish from 1922 to 1991, even though you had a four year window after WWII (1945-1949) to nuke this bullshit. Then it, thankfully, dissolved and there was hope for sane and normal Russia for once in this our lifetimes. Boris Yeltsin was the first president and those times looked hopeful, so I'm gonna give them a benefit of the doubt during his presidency from 1991-2000: 9 years.

Then the pedo putler came into power and it went downhill from there. So, 22 more years of letting the evil empire to flourish. So you have at most 91 years worth of "dollars" to pay for your inaction to destroy this evil empire.

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BillionsAndBillions 1 point ago +1 / -0

You entitled brats deserve nothing from me or any American.

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BurgerMan 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's what i've been thinking. Right now Russia is more on the defensive with small gains but that will change when they're able to put on the move heavy weaponry.

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voiceofsanity -1 points ago +5 / -6

Ground was already frozen in February when invasion started, looks like it did not help.

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Dild0Baggins 4 points ago +4 / -0

I’m not sure it’s still applicable, but historically Russia has been slow to mobilize initially but hits like a sledgehammer once they’re rolling.

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FormerGraveheart 2 points ago +2 / -0

It did help, shill, they moved fast at that time.

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TommyJarvis 10 points ago +11 / -1

Zelensky complained Europe was “dragging its feet” on paying for his war.

His troops are starving he says. It’s hell.

Where they fuck are the billions and billions were giving that criminal going?!

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chinita_atx 3 points ago +4 / -1

Elensky was ready to make a deal with the Russians in Istanbul back in March. The US and the UK told him not to do it and promised him all sorts of goodies. They did give him what they promised but it was never going to be enough.

Whatever people think of Putin, the man is methodical and deliberate. He was not going to war with the West unprepared. He waited 8 years to come because he was preparing his economy to take a hit. And by the way, Russia is the only country in the world that has a military academy solely dedicated to logistics. They have mechanics fixing their tanks in the field. They have trains that provide showers, laundry service and meals to their troops. They even have mobile bakeries that provided their special bread for easter to their troops and to their people in the Donbass.

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Elencher 1 point ago +2 / -1

Vodka and caviar ain't cheap.

Actually that's not true in Ukraine, they're both crazy cheap over there.

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FuckChinaJoe 0 points ago +1 / -1

$40 billion becomes $4billion from US to Ukraine, $400 million after Zelensky, $40 million after tax, $4 million received by military, …, $4 cents each soldier.

Pentagon “spent” $5 million on a program playing rock-paper-cissors, which is the same as randomly generating a number among 0,1,2. The program can be made in 10 minutes by a pupil.

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sovereign_citizen 8 points ago +11 / -3

The Russians are killing around 1000 a day. For readers in the United States this means that Ukraine has suffered more KIA in one week than the United States forces in Iraq loss during the entire conflict in Iraq (2003-2014).

Good God! They are losing in a week the amount of soldiers the U.S. lost in all of Afghanistan and Iraq

If you look at the videos of the battalions they look like just ordinary men. Farmers and such who are not equipped to combat the superiority of the Russian Army. It's sad to think such circumstances will likely continue to spring up around the world as small groups of individuals fight the globalist as they march headlong into WW3 for their "Great Reset".

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chinita_atx 4 points ago +5 / -1

Douglas McGregor and other watchers of this war say that the infantry fighting has been done mostly by the militias of the DPR and LPR with the help of the Chechens and Wagner. They get artillery support from RF, scouting and probing from VDV / O Group, and air cover from the Russian Aerospace Forces.

There has recently been a spate of videos of Russian POWs getting executed. Ukrainian soldiers are really not right in the head. I think it's from the cell phones of all the dead Ukrainians. Russians who originally just blamed Azov and the neo-Nazis, now have hate for ALL the soldiers of Ukraine. They're all the same. Azov do not have the artillery that keeps on shelling the civilians in the Donbass. It's the regular military who's doing it. Just something to remember when the US gets rid of Elensky and replaces him with Zaluzhny, the Chief of the General Staff.

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Elencher 4 points ago +5 / -1

Um...did you see which side has the jewish fag busy leaglizing gay marriage in the middle of a war? Those small groups of individuals are fighting for the globalists.

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sovereign_citizen 1 point ago +2 / -1

I suspect many know this but they are fighting for their homes, their lands, their pride, and their country as they used to remember it. Many in the U.S. would do the same if say Russia invaded through Alaska or China through the open border along Mexico.

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Elencher 3 points ago +4 / -1

And that is the saddest most fucked up part of this whole situation and why its terrible these people are getting used as pawns. They don't want to be ruled by a jewish fag installed by the Obama admin who lets his country be used as a NATO staging ground, and they don't want to be ruled by Russia either, but here there are caught between giants fighting.

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Skepticuck -6 points ago +2 / -8

The problem is that it has somehow become fashionable to be a Putin simp. And accordingly, people give no thought whatsoever to what is actually happening. Fuck the Russian invaders. Send them all home in body bags.

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Skepticuck -1 points ago +2 / -3

Fuck you, you lily-livered dick sucker. You're just another phony patriot and Russian simp that sides with an invader over those defending their homeland. I hope your boyfriend gives you monkey pox tonight while he has you bent over the sofa, stretching your hole.

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BillionsAndBillions 2 points ago +2 / -0

Go on supporting Zelensky sending every last Ukrainian man to his death when he could have sued for peace months ago, and allowed Donbas and its Russian people to rule themselves. You don't have to simp for Russia to understand this.

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Skepticuck -1 points ago +1 / -2

How about I come over to your house, move into the spare bedroom. Help myself to your fridge and maybe even fuck your wife. That sound OK to you? And then maybe after all that, you can negotiate with me over the terms of my living there. You are out of your fucking mind. Any patriot worthy of the name would sooner die than to appease the invaders.

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FormerGraveheart 0 points ago +1 / -1

Maybe you should leave then, Ukraine shill.

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Skepticuck 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe you should go suck the monkey pox out of Putin's dick, faggot.

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ultra-tera-maga 1 point ago +3 / -2

All for the Greater Good of authoritarian's being able to get their jollies off to all their sadistic whims.

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idrago01 7 points ago +9 / -2

the money we send over there just needlessly prolongs this pointless war just for the benefit of the globohomo's so that they can cover up whatever fuckery they were doing in ukraine, 1000 KIA per day is awful

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voiceofsanity -12 points ago +3 / -15

Russia can end this pointless war anytime, withdraw troops and pay contribution to Ukraine.

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idrago01 9 points ago +10 / -1

let russia and ukraine decide their own geopolitical issues, this doesn't concern america and we should not be interfering

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Elencher 6 points ago +7 / -1

And then globohomo expands in Ukraine, the west keeps running their biolabs, the Ukrainian people get enriched by muslim immigrants under their jewish run government.

How bout Russia is busy doing God's work while we sit here trying to take our country back since our government is busy supporting all this evil.

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voiceofsanity -1 points ago +3 / -4

the Ukrainian people get enriched by muslim immigrants

Russian army has lot of muslims, so no big difference

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chinita_atx 3 points ago +5 / -2

And let Ukraine, armed and trained by NATO continue to shell the Donbass, which they've been doing for 8 years?

The Donbass militias beat Ukraine 2x, hence the 2 surrender dox which are known as the Minsk Accords. What did Ukraine do? Used the ceasefire to get trained and armed by NATO to attack the Donbass again. Donbass residents have been asking Russia for help for 8 years. When you see videos of the residents of the cities that have been liberated, their constant comments to the Russians are -- we've been waiting for you for 8 years. It's heartbreaking.

EDIT: That's why one of the goals of the SMO is (was?) demilitarization. Russia wouldn't be able to leave Ukraine if Ukraine is still able to attack the Donbass. Either that or have a buffer zone which would reflect the max distance of available artillery which is 300 km of the ATACMS of the HIMARS, which Ukraine doesn't have yet but is expected to be given/sold in the future. But now, it's looking like whatever territories Russia is occupying now will be annexed. ANY Ukrainian is now allowed to ask for Russian citizenship.

Russia will be rebuilding the cities that they have liberated, see Mariupol. Elensky asking for money to rebuild is another grift.

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Skepticuck 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Russia will be rebuilding the cities that they have liberated, see Mariupol"

Liberated? They reduced it to rubble. Which is the only way the Soviets (and now Russians) know how to fight. Stand off and shell until everything is destroyed. Destroying is not liberating. The people that used to live there have no homes or businesses to return to. Do you really think the incompetent, corrupt Russian regime that has been sanctioned into economic desperation is going to be spending a lot of time and money rebuilding Mariupol?

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voiceofsanity -4 points ago +3 / -7

"Donbass militia" is a propaganda fake, actually it was Russian regular forces disguised as militia.

When you see videos of the residents of the cities that have been liberated, their constant comments to the Russians are -- we've been waiting for you for 8 years. It's heartbreaking.

Some commie old farts who media propagandists managed to find. Many more are killed, tortured or had to flee from Russian invaders.

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FormerGraveheart 0 points ago +1 / -1

Who do you think you're convincing here? Everyone knows you're just spouting propaganda.

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Skepticuck 2 points ago +2 / -0

We get it. You're a Russian simp.

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libman 2 points ago +3 / -1

Ukraine started this war, Ukraine will pay reparations to the people of Crimea and Donbas for refusing to let them vote on independence and oppressing them for 30+ years.

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voiceofsanity 0 points ago +1 / -1

Why did Russia refuse people of Chechnya (Ichkeria) to become independent? When will Russia pay reparations to Chechen people?

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libman 7 points ago +9 / -2

But the paid GloboHomo trolls here said Ukraine was winning, reeeeee!

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WinterSoldier82 6 points ago +7 / -1

NATO is Corn Pop.

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libman 6 points ago +9 / -3

NATO was a bad empire - since 1992.

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chinita_atx 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yes, should've been disbanded. MartyrMade said what a way to reward a people who waged a relatively bloodless revolution on their own country, by continuing to consider them as enemies by not disbanding NATO.

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MythArcana 5 points ago +5 / -0

Bomb Donbass for eight years, be the Dumbass.

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king07828 5 points ago +6 / -1

Is Zelensky saying that they can't beat Russia, but that they'll keep laundering US tax dollars as long as Biden keeps paying them to?

If R's take over Congress, are there going to be hearings to track where these dollars went with indictments and convictions for bribery and treason?

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chinita_atx 2 points ago +3 / -1

The money mostly goes to DoD and to MIC. We are replacing the materiel we give by buying new stuff. Rs and Ds get the kickback from MIC. They're all corrupt.

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monkadelic 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wish I had your optimism.

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SneezerAugustus 5 points ago +6 / -1

Make Ukraine Russia Again

Then hang every globalist remaining.

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libman 1 point ago +2 / -1

Make Ukraine Russia Again

Russia doesn't want Ukraine Proper.

Ukraine Proper is basically East Poland.

It's a piece of Rus(sia) that was colonized by the Catholics (Polish, Lithuanians, etc) gradually around 1300-1600. Eventually the Orthodox population rose up against the Catholic nobility that was imposed on them and it rejoined Rus(sia). But a Polish creole dialect remained - that's what "Ukraine" is.

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DieHeretic 1 point ago +1 / -0

"I realized I had fucked up when my one bestie Jonas I volunteered with got hit directly in the face with a Russian RPG and didn't immediately respawn. That and the Azov Regiment guys thinking we were all women and took turns assraping us before we were sent to the front."

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SirSelrahc 4 points ago +4 / -0

Oh no! This is bad! We need to send another 1B$ to Ukraine ASAP!

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Bullet3250 3 points ago +4 / -1

Ukraines ONLY path to victory... is to end all hostilities instantly.

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preferredfault 3 points ago +5 / -2

They're sending them to get shelled -- with little to no weapons, not even a map -- in their own civilian vehicles! If you can't equip men like soldiers, then they're not soldiers.

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anatidaephobia 5 points ago +6 / -1

You destroyed Europe and gave half of it to communists while saving the communists from being slaughtered by Europeans. Stop sucking communist dick.

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chinita_atx 0 points ago +2 / -2

You cultivated and armed Nazis ostensibly to fight communism but kept feeding them even after the Soviet Union fell. Now you're just Nazis. Stop sucking Nazi dick.

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anatidaephobia 2 points ago +3 / -1

Into the wood chipper you go, commie scum.

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1776timesinfinity -2 points ago +1 / -3

There is no woodchipper. You're a powerless, angry loser on the internet. You have no real means to avenge yourself against anyone you hate.

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BillionsAndBillions 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do you?

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1776timesinfinity 0 points ago +1 / -1

I don't hate you.

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BillionsAndBillions 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do you have the means if you did?

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ascension4humanity 4 points ago +4 / -0

Whose goal? In World War 2, the goal of the Rothschild’s was to have us kill each other so that we didn’t hang them. They achieved their goal.

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Flptplt 3 points ago +3 / -0

What about all those mainstream media reports of heroic ukrainians taking out entire battalions of Russian soldiers with a single rifle?

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doug2 3 points ago +3 / -0

Gayest fakes war ever

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Kornilovist 3 points ago +4 / -1

According to a Ukrainian military report to Zelenskiy allegedly intercepted by Russia and published on rusvesna.su, Ukraine has lost 191,000 wounded and killed. It's military is at 43-48 percent of its assigned manpower. Of the most recent reservist call up, only 20% remain.

Zelenskiy announced he has canceled all Ukrainian offensives for the year. This only a week after saying Ukraine was about to liberate Kherson in a new offensive.

They should never have been planned. Whoever is planning Ukrainian military operations (Russia alleges its the US and Britain) is doing a terrible job accepting reality. It's unsurprising.

A military that insists men can be women can't be expected to plan rational military operations.

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Skepticuck -1 points ago +3 / -4

Those were lies when the Russian propagandist wrote them.

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voiceofsanity -1 points ago +3 / -4

published on rusvesna.su

another Russian propaganda source detached from reality

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Groundpounder 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don’t interrupt the NPCs while they are deleting “I Support Ukraine” files to make room for the “I Stand with Taiwan” download! 😡

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Elencher 2 points ago +2 / -0

We won't see I stand with Taiwan, the NPC programming channels are all run by the CCP.

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GhostOfMyFormerSelf 2 points ago +3 / -1

I thought we sent them over 80 Billion dollars worth of support so far. Why are these assholes are fighting in their boxer briefs. What could have caused them such hardship? There was no money for pants?

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voiceofsanity -4 points ago +1 / -5

Because these are actors pretending to be Ukrainian soldiers, and Russia did not bother to issue them appropriate pants, that's it.

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GhostOfMyFormerSelf 3 points ago +3 / -0

No. These are not Russians. These are Ukrainians that Zalinski has put up to this in order to garner more sympathy for his unwinnable situation. Thanks for the down vote.

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voiceofsanity -1 points ago +1 / -2

How can you distinguish exactly?

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GhostOfMyFormerSelf 2 points ago +2 / -0

That you downvoted me? Easy.

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voiceofsanity -1 points ago +1 / -2

No, how can you tell exactly based on this video if people present there are Ukrainians and not Russians?

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GhostOfMyFormerSelf 3 points ago +3 / -0

Because Russians don't fight in their boxers. Only Ukrainians would do such a thing because their leaders squander their aid money on cocaine and hookers instead of buying them pants.

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voiceofsanity -1 points ago +1 / -2

It is not based on facts, it is based on your beliefs.

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TheCandorist 2 points ago +2 / -0

They are losing readiness of like a battalion a week with 1000 a day losses. Is that casualties or deaths? If it's deaths they are probably having at least 3000 a day removed from combat

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jermzdeejd 2 points ago +3 / -1

I wouldn't be surprised if America gives money to Ukraine and Ukraine pays Russia with it.

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ascension4humanity 2 points ago +3 / -1

Russia seems to be buying some of the weapons.

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DieHeretic 2 points ago +2 / -0

You know it.

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chinita_atx 1 point ago +2 / -1

HIMARS and Caesar. Some reporters claim so but the Russian military itself is mum.

There are 20 HIMARS AFAIK in Ukraine. 6 have been claimed as destroyed by the Russians. 1 sold for 800K USD. So there are 13 left. And those 13 are being operated by Americans. Yes, there are active American servicemen in the field in Ukraine.

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Sgtt 2 points ago +2 / -0

"soldiers complain that they were sent to the front with no proper weapons or equipment just to be pounded by Russian artillery. "

So where's all that USD we sent at, Joe Biden?

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GCTX1 2 points ago +2 / -0

I wonder if it’s because they changed their gay marriage law in the middle of a war.

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Overtaxed 2 points ago +2 / -0

Guess we better send another 10B...

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JoeBidensDementia1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't worry, Ukraine! We're sending our best fighters as reinforcements!

Redditors, hooooooe!

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drmrboy 2 points ago +2 / -0

The scam is over now? We can focus on our problems here now? Oh, who are we kidding. 🙄

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NaggerPlease 1 point ago +1 / -0

Daily I see on yahoo and other cucked networks how “ukraine” is winning the war, which is bullshit. Russia has them in the run, cucklensky is doing vogue covers, politicians are visiting and U2 had a concert.

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MobileDev4Trump 1 point ago +3 / -2

They ran out of human shields to hide behind

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redditresearches 1 point ago +2 / -1

Sorry, still not our problem.

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AmerikaUberAlles 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yet Reddit is absolutely convinced Ukraine is winning. 95% of footage posted in the "combat footage" sub is Ukrainians destroying/killing Russian targets. If you even suggest the Russia is winning you are labeled a traitor and Russian propagandist.

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DrVSGGEOTUSPhD 1 point ago +1 / -0

Those poor bastards. So terrible. None of this needed to happen

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Guffman 1 point ago +2 / -1

Stick a fork in Ukraine... it's done already.

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BunnyPicnic 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is no grind. Russia is using their old cold war equipment and their little grunts. Russia might not be able to go full on blitzkrieg, but they have one of the top militaries in the world. They could bombard the country, but they don't really want to, or they would have. Our military is full of women and trannies. I can't wait for ww3.

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ryry117 1 point ago +1 / -0

If my country legalized fag marriage I'd desert the military too...

…oh wait.

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voiceofsanity 0 points ago +1 / -1

It is not legalized, it was only petition to legalize.

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AnotherDeadVoter 1 point ago +2 / -1

I hope Russia corners him and he eats his own gun that he LARPs with.

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sovereign_citizen 3 points ago +4 / -1

He's probably not even in Ukraine. He's probably making videos from his basement like Pedo Peter does.

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TommyJarvis 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ppsh, he’s playing a part in all this. Putin wouldn’t touch him.

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ArcticDark 1 point ago +1 / -0

Easiest way to minimize suffering of the average person, and soldier alike, is that Ukraine needs to capitulate. Sorry but even wunderwaffen HIMARS, decent as they are, are not turning the tide.

Nothing short of direct intervention by major European/US coalition forces will change the outcome of this.

If Ukraine's "sovereignty and autonomy" means so much, declare war on Russia and settle it. If it doesn't, which it clearly doesn't, then exacerbating war is the evil thing to do.

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voiceofsanity -1 points ago +1 / -2

If every Russian soldier surrenders, then war can be ended quickly, without excess suffering.

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ArcticDark 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm speaking from the reality of the situation and likely endings, not fantasy.

Ukraine is just scamming and laundering weapons and money from the West at this point. Some 70% of weapons aren't even making it to the frontlines. Even if you're pro-Ukraine, which I suspect is likely true, a 3 of 4 chance of weapons' simply disappearing into thin air, showing up on the black market, or moving off to the middle east is a terrible look.

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voiceofsanity 0 points ago +1 / -1

There is no proof of disappearing weapons. Only verbal claims.

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libman -2 points ago +1 / -3

If every Russian soldier surrenders, then war can be ended quickly, without excess suffering.

That would be like USA surrendering to Cuba. But it's not just about the power difference.

Ukrainians are fighting to deny other Ukrainians the Right to vote to leave Ukraine.

Russians are fighting because their lands and people were stolen by puppets controlled by an aggressive Empire, and that Empire is surrounding them with military bases and nukes. The Empire funded terrorists that killed thousands of their civilians (ex Beslan), etc. It even got Russia banned from the Olympics!

That Empire was the lesser evil between 1945 and 1991, but not since.

Russians will not surrender.

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voiceofsanity 1 point ago +2 / -1

Russians are fighting because their lands and people were stolen by puppets controlled by an aggressive Empire, and that Empire is surrounding them with military bases and nukes. The Empire funded terrorists that killed thousands of their civilians (ex Beslan), etc. It even got Russia banned from the Olympics!

Everyone steals Russian lands, but somehow Russia became the largest country on this planet. By "returning back stolen lands that always belonged to Russia". That's obvious bullshit.

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libman 0 points ago +1 / -1

Everyone steals Russian lands, but somehow Russia became the largest country on this planet.

Communist logic. It's ok to rob a rich guy, because he has more money.

Look at a map, retard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire

Russia was a lot larger in its peak, before being destroyed by foreign powers and foreign agents like Lenin and Trotsky.

Regions that want to leave should be allowed to leave (Finland, Estonia, Poland, East Poland aka Ukraine Proper, etc).

But regions that want to stay should be allowed to stay.

THIS IS ABOUT SELF-DETERMINATION!

By "returning back stolen lands that always belonged to Russia". That's obvious bullshit.

For the trillionth time:

THIS IS ABOUT SELF-DETERMINATION!

History, language, culture, economics, etc are just explanations for ignorant Westerners as to WHY those regions want to secede from Ukraine.

Because Western propaganda is telling them that Ukraine is a paradise, and Russians are illiterate orcs that steal washing machines from 2000 miles away.

Those Bolshevik and now GloboHomo lie factories spent billions of dollars inventing the Ukrainian language and re-writing the history of Rus to support their lies.

That's fine, they're not the first nation to exaggerate or fabricate their national myth. But the people in each region should decide for themselves if they want to be a part of that astroturfed fiction called Ukraine or not.

THIS IS ABOUT SELF-DETERMINATION!

If Moscow wanted to secede from Russia, they should be allowed to do so.

If fucking Lesotho wanted to join Russia and Russia agreed, they should be allowed to do so.

THIS IS ABOUT SELF-DETERMINATION!

THIS IS ABOUT SELF-DETERMINATION!

THIS IS ABOUT SELF-DETERMINATION!

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CentralAmericanPede 1 point ago +1 / -0

If they had done this from the getgo, this would have been over months ago.

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namaste_trump 1 point ago +2 / -1

more tax payer money going to Fukraine?

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SevenThunders 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't understand the Putin love at this point. Frankly I hate both Zelensky and Putin. They are both corrupt oligarchs. I prefer peace over the destruction of innocent lives. I mourn both Russian lives lost and Ukrainian lives lost.

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voiceofsanity 0 points ago +1 / -1

Russians are aggressors, they chose to start this war. Ukraine had no choice.

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SevenThunders 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree, but Ukraine could have abided by the Minsk accords and stopped shelling civilians in the breakaway republics.

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voiceofsanity 0 points ago +1 / -1

"shelling civilians in the breakaway republics" is a trope of Russian propaganda. Russian three letter agencies organized these events, sent their operatives to Ukraine cities and captured administrative buildings with help of some brainwashed stupid locals. It was a hybrid invasion, not a genuine independence movement. Ukraine had to respond and start anti-terrorist operation, which resulted in some collateral damage. But very frequently "shelling civilians" events were staged, Russians fired shells at residential areas, then Russian TV propagandists quickly appeared in these places and recorded how "evil nazi Ukraine bombs civilians".

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libman -2 points ago +1 / -3

"shelling civilians in the breakaway republics" is a trope of Russian propaganda.

AKA verified facts.

Russian three letter agencies organized these events, sent their operatives to Ukraine cities and captured administrative buildings with help of some brainwashed stupid locals.

Those "brainwashed stupid locals" are in majority in Crimea and Donbas.

That's why Kiev would rather provoke and pointless war than risk an honest vote on regional secession.

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libman -2 points ago +1 / -3

Russians are aggressors, they chose to start this war. Ukraine had no choice.

You are functionally illiterate and brainwashed.

All that Ukraine had to do was stop oppressing the regions that wanted to leave.

And it's not really about Ukraine - they are just puppets.

It's Russia that, after 30 years of aggression, had no other choice.

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voiceofsanity 0 points ago +1 / -1

All that Ukraine had to do was stop oppressing the regions that wanted to leave.

When Chechens wanted to leave Russia, Russia brutally opressed them, killed many children & women, leveled city of Grozny to the ground. Why it was ok for Russia but not for Ukraine?

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libman 0 points ago +1 / -1

When Chechens wanted to leave Russia, Russia brutally opressed them, killed many children & women, leveled city of Grozny to the ground.

For the trillionth time, I support secession referendums in every region of Russia, including Chechnya. All large countries should allow referendums every X years to confirm all regions want to remain voluntarily.

But the Chechen terrorists did not want a democratic referendum, they wanted an Islamic Caliphate spread by the sword.

These were international Jihadists, a Mujahideen 2.0, funded by the West (and Western allies like the Saudies and possibly Pakistan and Turkey). They wanted to take over the Caucus region, and would probably (re)genocide the Armenians and Georgians to fill in the gaps.

USA had a change of policy after 9/11, and suddenly nobody wanted to secede from Russia ever since.

Fly to Chechnya and ask the people if they want to secede from Russia. >95% will say no.

Fly to Crimea and ask the people if they want to secede from Ukraine. >95% will say yes.

Sugar Oil Money Daddy Putin bought them fair and square.

If/when the relative economic situation changes, secessions away from Russia will become more popular.

Why it was ok for Russia but not for Ukraine?

Same rules should apply to everyone.

Regional right to peaceful secession via referendums.

Ukraine is simply the country with the most popular secession movements.

When China's economy stalls (like Japan's did, but hopefully more-so), it will also fragment.

When NATO weakens, many of its members like Spain and Turkey will fall apart too.

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voiceofsanity 0 points ago +1 / -1

Sugar Oil Money Daddy Putin bought them fair and square.

Putin bought only the local warlord Kadyrov and his clan. Other Chechens are poor and live under Kadyrov's oppressive regime with tortures and people disappearing. Formal laws of Russian Federation don't work there.

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libman -1 points ago +1 / -2

Putin bought only the local warlord Kadyrov and his clan.

So let me get this straight. You support the Chechen warlords when they're paid by the West to literally kill Russian children...

But when they're paid by Moscow to be a kebab shop franchise and a tourist destination (a future Russia's Dubai), then they become the bad guys?!

Other Chechens are poor and live under Kadyrov's oppressive regime with tortures and people disappearing.

Yes, it's an, um, less enlightened Islamic culture, which still has more in common with Afghanistan than Europe.

A minute ago you wanted them to sever ties with the European Civilization (via Russia) entirely...

People are free to leave Chechnya and they are free to leave Russia.

Formal laws of Russian Federation don't work there.

That's called autonomy, idiot.

We could use more of that in the United States.

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voiceofsanity 0 points ago +1 / -1

So let me get this straight. You support the Chechen warlords when they're paid by the West to literally kill Russian children...

fake and Russian propaganda

But when they're paid by Moscow to be a kebab shop franchise and a tourist destination (a future Russia's Dubai), then they become the bad guys?!

They become traitors, because Russia repeatedly tried to destroy Chechen people for the last 200 years.

A minute ago you wanted them to sever ties with the European Civilization (via Russia) entirely...

They can contact European Civilization directly without shitty proxies

That's called autonomy, idiot.

That's called lawlessness.

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voiceofsanity 0 points ago +1 / -1

They wanted to take over the Caucus region, would would probably (re)genocide the Armenians and Georgians to fill in the gaps.

You are overestimating their capabilities, there were about 1 million of Chechens total, and many of them fled to Europe as a refugees.

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libman 0 points ago +1 / -1

That's exactly why it wasn't really about Chechnya.

It was an international Jihad to create an Abbasid Caliphate 2.0, stretching north into the Islamic and sparsely populated parts of Russia.

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Hibernatus 1 point ago +1 / -0

They are tasting what they were doing for 8 years to the Russian speaking Ukrainians of the west.

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voiceofsanity 0 points ago +1 / -1

All English speaking people should be ruled by the Queen of the United Kingdom!

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libman -2 points ago +1 / -3

No one should be "ruled by the Queen of the United Kingdom". 🗽🇺🇸🦅 #1776

Not even the English. The Queen is just a cultural institution, like a museum.

This isn't about language. This is about self-determination!

Arguments about history, genetics, language, culture, economics, etc only serve to explain why secession from Ukraine is so popular.

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voiceofsanity 1 point ago +2 / -1

So Ukraine self-determinated from Russia 30 years ago, and Russia does not like it.

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libman 0 points ago +1 / -1

So Ukraine self-determinated from Russia 30 years ago, and Russia does not like it.

Estonia, Ukraine, Russia, and most other SSRs "self-determinated" from the USSR. (Kazakhstan was the last.)

Russia (i.e. Yeltsin supporters like myself) were the most important of those secession movements, because without them none of the others would have been possible.

That doesn't mean Russia had no objections to Ukrainians stealing Russian lands, but it wouldn't have been a big deal if it was a friendly nation like Belarus, or at least a civilized nation like Estonia...

The more Ukraine fucked up as an independent nation, the more Crimea and at least some parts of Novorossiya wanted to leave it. They had no historical or cultural reason for being a part of that mess. Everybody wants a piece of that Siberian oil money...

Self-determination doesn't just apply to Texas-sized chunks with population of around 50,000,000...

Let a million new nations bloom!

Russia did the right thing and let Ukraine go.

Ukraine did the wrong thing and didn't let Crimea and Donbas hold a referendum.

Thus Ukraine is the aggressor, and deserved to be spanked until it agrees to hold referendums.

Those referendums should have been done a lot earlier, with international observers, and with every region having an option for choosing full sovereignty (not just choosing between Russia or Ukraine).

By refusing to do that for 30 years, Ukraine has lost a lot of influence in how those referendums would turn out. It also lost the ability to pressure Russia to allow similar referendums in regions that might want to leave Russia.

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GHOSTofKIEV 1 point ago +1 / -0

The ghost of hi-mars has singlehandedly destroyed 5,788 Russian artillery and missle defense systems, with just 10 rockets! At this pace, we will be marching on Moscow by the end of the month but we need lots of untraceable weapons, ammo, and cash pallets (unmarked bills only please).