Not hating on any innocent civilians. I'm hating on the dumb Reddit tards who wave Ukraine flags in the West here and wear masks and try to fly over there as mercenaries.
I’m fully in favor of Redditors and others going to Ukraine to fight. Changing your profile pic and adding hash tags does nothing. If you feel strongly about it, put your money where your mouth is.
Agree - but I will say this. Taiwan manufactures more than 60% of the world's computer chips and more than 90% of the most advanced ones.
Our politicians put us in this predicament where we moved all of manufacturing capabilities offshore.
If we don't do anything then we need semiconductor fabs in the USA ASAP, which is definitely the better long-term solution. Short-term if China were to take over Taiwan, they will have a huge strategic advantage against us both economically and militarily.
Again - this is all the fault of politicians, environmentalists, and globalists selling out our country for so many years. We should be self-sustaining for all key components of society.
This isn’t a talking point it’s a fact. CHIPS act is a scam and just a funnel for Nancy Pelosi to get rich.
In truth, government needs to get the F out of the way and just make it easier for us to manufacture here. Environmentalists ran off all our manufacturing. But that will never happen under the rule of DNC and RINO uniparty.
In truth, government needs to get the F out of the way and just make it easier for us to manufacture here.
If only we had a president who sanctioned subsidized cheating countries to the point where it becomes viable to pay americans to manufacture products here...
USA economy will be fucked for the next decade if Taiwan is lost to CCP. It takes a decade to build a chip fab facility and in that time China would own the semiconductor market. Taiwan built them on the island to hold the developed world hostage if China actually invaded.
World war 3 type conflict would be the only way to save US manufacturing at this point. They'll never stop sending factories and Jobs overseas for any other reason.
I don't think so. They want to talk aggressive and if they made Pelosi back down then they'd act even more aggressively.
They lost massive amounts of face and their netizens were literally crying en masse after Pelosi landed. Because they said they were going to take big actions including shooting down or intercepting the plane, and they've announced for a long time that if any military jet enters Taiwan then they will immediately invade and take back Taiwan by force. They exposed themselves as being all talk and their population is pissed at the CCP.
Hence why they are blowing up a lot of fish at the moment. They got called out and faced a lot of pressure, so filming themselves launching rockets into the sea to try to act tough.
As much as I dislike Nasty Nancy I think this was just an excuse for China. There have been lots of similar visits in the past with nothing approaching this level of response. Analysts have been predicting China would move on Taiwan for the last couple years.
I think what probably happened is that by the time they realized how much it was going to piss Xi off (or be used by Xi for propaganda, anyway) it was too late to call it off, because in many ways that would be even worse: make us look like little bitches.
Yes Americans might say "well that's just nancy, that doesn't represent us) but China wouldn't see it that way. They'd say (or see it as) the US backing down more broadly.
The real mistake here is our woke leadership not having been prepared for this day. We have known for decades that we were on a collision course with China one day. But instead of preparing for it, we sold them our secrets, we shipped our industries over there, and paid them trillions to build their economy and military. And LGB and Traitor Milley have been liquidating real patriots from our military over a fake clotshot. We are in a weaker position militarily than we've been since the end of the Cold War.
Someone needs to stop China, but I am not sure now is the time. Too early, or too late? Not sure.
Same. They have big strategic importance, have been good allies and culturally and politically align with us. Out of all of the conflicts we've had recently, can there be one more in our interest than defending Taiwan?
The main issue that came out of this is that no one even tried to shoot the missiles down and I heard reports they didn't even trigger the air raid siren so people are mad and view the Taiwanese government as weak now.
The CCP fired missiles over Taiwan last week so I'm not sure why this is being reported as a novel occurrence. Eastern shore, Northern shore and Western shore received missile splashdowns.
China is poaching Taiwan to retaliate so that China can rain down an onslaught in return. I mean, they've encircled the entire fucking island. China desperately wants Taiwan to make any kind of military assault. It's like the bully waving his hands in your face saying he's not touching you.
It is when you consider Taiwan manufactures more than 60% of all semiconductors. That’s one reason some producers like Samsung and Intel are making some big domestic plants because of the concern of an Asian war.
Hey there, Mr. chonky_tart. I see you've got a fire in you, and that it is great. I don't know that you and I would disagree on much, but we would, certainly, at some point. Thanks for the good reads (your comment history). I hope to see your name pop up more often, YOU NOOB. (Am I still a handshake? Dang.)
We had no defensive treaties with the belligerents going into WWI or WWII, beyond lend-lease but that wasn’t a treaty. Those were our problems because of losing major trading partners and allies along with major shifts in power paradigms in different areas of the world.
You'd be saying it's "not our problem" if china up and invaded the west coast simply because it's liberal.
Should have smothered it in the cradle, the right answer is not retreating and letting them stomp all over region, then again that's the typical response I expect from my fellow countrymen nowadays, turn a blind eye to everything.
lolol... wat? China is on the verge of a horrific collapse and cannot succeed in taking Taiwan. There is no way they'd try unless you're counting on Biden being bought off to allow it. I'd love to hear your basis for saying this.
They can't support their basic resource needs should a conflict arise. Their short range navy isn't capable of protecting oil shipments. They'd face massive energy shortages and starvation in very short order as a consequence of invading.
Militarily, the island isn't easy for anyone to invade. It's geography made the US think it'd be more costly to invade than Normandy when it was under Japanese control.
Then there is the inferiority of their military tech and much poorer quality navy.
Then there is the fact that Japan and likely Korea, if not Australia and other allies, would join in against China if they were in conflict with the US over Taiwan.
China actually knows this, which is why they did nothing when Pelosi is coming, despite saying they'd retake Taiwan by force if military planes ever entered, and saying they would intercept/shoot Pelosi's plane. Their only weapon is bluster, which just got exposed.
I am with you. Lets rip that bandaid off. Problem is right now America looks fucking weak due to Biden and most of the Democrats are working for the Chinese
Don’t pull the trigger quite yet, Xi… your Manchurian candidate is almost done completely draining our strategic oil reserves and bankrupting our country
That is incorrect. China would lose a significant portion of its military in an attempt to take over Taiwan. Taiwan is armed to the teeth, and has a military that is (by some miracle) kind of comparable to China, not to mention better trained. China invading Taiwan would be theoretically possible but it would also destroy the country in the process due to how difficult it is to do so.
There's no point in nuking the island because they would destroy the chip facilities. Taiwan has positioned itself perfectly on the political stage, to make it almost impossible for China to do anything.
A blockade - an act of war that would result in the already crumbling Three Gorges Dam being destroyed and the might of most of the world crashing down upon China? Yeah, I have, why?
Sorry? Do you have any basis for this comment whatsoever?
I think your misunderstanding is massive. 1) China behaves worse when you don't resist; 2) China would have massive difficulty taking an isolated Taiwan, even if they used their full force, and are incapable of taken Taiwan defended by allies; 3) China would be rapidly resource starved as a consequence of getting cut off in response to an invasion. In short they'd be devastated and humiliated, and that would be amplified given they're already near collapse.
Your unsupported pro-CCP post reminds me that I recently heard wumao/CCP shills like to go to left- and right-wing sites like P.W. "Oooh the CCP will be angry, get scared western devils!"
You see what the chi comes already do to their own citizens? It'll be thrice as bad for the Taiwanese. China is a vengful regime. Damned if you do damned if you don't. Suffering is the only thing in Taiwan's future. At least take as much of China down with you as you can on the way out if it comes to that.
China 1.1 replacement rate.
China 15 Trillion clean up bill for their environment.
China total economic collapse in less than 2 months.
China Richest 10,000 Chinese trying to leave China permanently.
Also China paper tiger saber rattling.
Yawn wake me when we get to kill the yellow dog eating fuckers.
Until then let them wallow in their commie utopia.
There are missiles which do not explode and cause billions in dmage. They have high powered microwave generators on board and cause crazy electrical damage to sensitive components, such as chip fab facilities.
Taiwan really needs to be intercepting these missiles from the coast. If Biden had any balls and realized how seriously it would disrrupt world order if China took over Taiwan, we would have our navy parked right off of Taiwan and deployed batterries of anti-missile defenses at the coast. Ukraine is nothing compared to this. EU is more than capable of handling that if you forced them to get off their ass.
Thanks Nancy.
I want to see all the Ukraine loving fags head over to Taiwan now to actually defend freedom and democracy.
Not one of them will go.
They must feel very confused today lol like father's day in Harlem
The culturally appropriate term is "Babydaddy's Day"
bigot
democrats accuse Republicans of being russians
but Democrats are the party of China
working for the ccp
And Russia pre-2014. Don't forget Hilldawg's reset button...
Not for long they aren’t, China’s economy is about to experience what America did during the Great Depression.
We keep hearing of the impending collapse in China, but it has yet to materialize
I never said collapse, I said economic turmoil.
If China collapses as a result of that turmoil is another story entirely.
Not hating on any innocent civilians. I'm hating on the dumb Reddit tards who wave Ukraine flags in the West here and wear masks and try to fly over there as mercenaries.
I’m fully in favor of Redditors and others going to Ukraine to fight. Changing your profile pic and adding hash tags does nothing. If you feel strongly about it, put your money where your mouth is.
But don’t expect anyone to come save you.
I respect the fools that actually go. The pure keyboard brigade? Not so much
Check out Ukraine On Fire if you haven’t already. Obviously it’s just extra credit for you, obviously you’re well researched as it is.
The very people that the Azov Nazis were trying to kill off
I thought more than a third of those forces.
You make a good point.
The Ukranians don't support Ukraine. They give all kinds of intel to the Russians and welcome them as they roll through their town.
BASED
kiss the tip of my dick FBI
Well of course not. They weren’t invoked by the Jewish overlords.
Only retards will leave the US to fight now.
I'm starting to think the "good guys" didn't win all those wars...
Thanks uniparty
Agree - but I will say this. Taiwan manufactures more than 60% of the world's computer chips and more than 90% of the most advanced ones.
Our politicians put us in this predicament where we moved all of manufacturing capabilities offshore.
If we don't do anything then we need semiconductor fabs in the USA ASAP, which is definitely the better long-term solution. Short-term if China were to take over Taiwan, they will have a huge strategic advantage against us both economically and militarily.
Again - this is all the fault of politicians, environmentalists, and globalists selling out our country for so many years. We should be self-sustaining for all key components of society.
Same with the fertilizer shortage.
We invested in the CHIPs act, right? So politicians can fuck off with this this talking point.
This isn’t a talking point it’s a fact. CHIPS act is a scam and just a funnel for Nancy Pelosi to get rich.
In truth, government needs to get the F out of the way and just make it easier for us to manufacture here. Environmentalists ran off all our manufacturing. But that will never happen under the rule of DNC and RINO uniparty.
If only we had a president who sanctioned subsidized cheating countries to the point where it becomes viable to pay americans to manufacture products here...
USA economy will be fucked for the next decade if Taiwan is lost to CCP. It takes a decade to build a chip fab facility and in that time China would own the semiconductor market. Taiwan built them on the island to hold the developed world hostage if China actually invaded.
World war 3 type conflict would be the only way to save US manufacturing at this point. They'll never stop sending factories and Jobs overseas for any other reason.
"they" are the same people that would start the war in the first place, so unlikely.
Gotta kick out the false government to get real change.
Sure you're right but that's still less likely than them starting WW3
If China does invade, it's the cunt rag's fault for visiting (WHAT THE FUCK FOR?) and Taiwan's fault for allowing the bitch to visit their country.
This was done on purpose. They needed a reason to get aggressive and Nancy gave them the reason.
This is so obvious they are on the same side. Not tricking anyone.
Nancy must be aligned with the "not Taiwan now" faction in the CCP. She gave them a boost and pushed some fence sitters into willing attackers
I don't think so. They want to talk aggressive and if they made Pelosi back down then they'd act even more aggressively.
They lost massive amounts of face and their netizens were literally crying en masse after Pelosi landed. Because they said they were going to take big actions including shooting down or intercepting the plane, and they've announced for a long time that if any military jet enters Taiwan then they will immediately invade and take back Taiwan by force. They exposed themselves as being all talk and their population is pissed at the CCP.
Hence why they are blowing up a lot of fish at the moment. They got called out and faced a lot of pressure, so filming themselves launching rockets into the sea to try to act tough.
As much as I dislike Nasty Nancy I think this was just an excuse for China. There have been lots of similar visits in the past with nothing approaching this level of response. Analysts have been predicting China would move on Taiwan for the last couple years.
I think what probably happened is that by the time they realized how much it was going to piss Xi off (or be used by Xi for propaganda, anyway) it was too late to call it off, because in many ways that would be even worse: make us look like little bitches.
Yes Americans might say "well that's just nancy, that doesn't represent us) but China wouldn't see it that way. They'd say (or see it as) the US backing down more broadly.
The real mistake here is our woke leadership not having been prepared for this day. We have known for decades that we were on a collision course with China one day. But instead of preparing for it, we sold them our secrets, we shipped our industries over there, and paid them trillions to build their economy and military. And LGB and Traitor Milley have been liquidating real patriots from our military over a fake clotshot. We are in a weaker position militarily than we've been since the end of the Cold War.
Someone needs to stop China, but I am not sure now is the time. Too early, or too late? Not sure.
...or it was a deliberate provocation.
Yup, previous visits were never leaked to the press like this one was... They were always kept secret until near when the politician arrived...
Time to start changing our pics to the Taiwan flag boys
I support the new thing!
I support the current thing.
Ohhhh are you saying we should get ahead of the cUrReNt tHiNg and we take over ship of support Taiwan? I vote for the "Taiwan #1" meme to come back.
Unlike Ukraine, I actually support a war to protect Taiwan from China.
Taiwan has a functioning republic and are strategically important to us.
Plus we need them to contain China.
Same. They have big strategic importance, have been good allies and culturally and politically align with us. Out of all of the conflicts we've had recently, can there be one more in our interest than defending Taiwan?
I’d much rather die fighting for Taiwan than fighting for Ukraine.
It'll forever be on my leather pilot's flight jacket, tho
If you want peace.
Prepare for war.
And if you want war, best be planning for the coming fuck ups
New US Army slogan - when you prepare for war, make sure you make-up does not clash with your dress.
Pelosi's visit seems to be the excuse being used to justify the heightened drills.
Totally not planned.
Yeah I suspect she was paid to travel and made some deals while there to fatten her coffers
The main issue that came out of this is that no one even tried to shoot the missiles down and I heard reports they didn't even trigger the air raid siren so people are mad and view the Taiwanese government as weak now.
That's sure convenient.
The CCP fired missiles over Taiwan last week so I'm not sure why this is being reported as a novel occurrence. Eastern shore, Northern shore and Western shore received missile splashdowns.
China is poaching Taiwan to retaliate so that China can rain down an onslaught in return. I mean, they've encircled the entire fucking island. China desperately wants Taiwan to make any kind of military assault. It's like the bully waving his hands in your face saying he's not touching you.
They are, they banned people from having "assault rifles" even though they have a military aggressor right next to them.
It's not a question of if, it's a question of when
And if the blue and yellow crowd changes their profile this time
and still not our problem
It is when you consider Taiwan manufactures more than 60% of all semiconductors. That’s one reason some producers like Samsung and Intel are making some big domestic plants because of the concern of an Asian war.
Hey there, Mr. chonky_tart. I see you've got a fire in you, and that it is great. I don't know that you and I would disagree on much, but we would, certainly, at some point. Thanks for the good reads (your comment history). I hope to see your name pop up more often, YOU NOOB. (Am I still a handshake? Dang.)
So against the US government? yeah id join in on that too. Need a reformation to become more constitutionalist and free.
We had no defensive treaties with the belligerents going into WWI or WWII, beyond lend-lease but that wasn’t a treaty. Those were our problems because of losing major trading partners and allies along with major shifts in power paradigms in different areas of the world.
You'd be saying it's "not our problem" if china up and invaded the west coast simply because it's liberal.
Should have smothered it in the cradle, the right answer is not retreating and letting them stomp all over region, then again that's the typical response I expect from my fellow countrymen nowadays, turn a blind eye to everything.
That’s what happens when the world turned their collective backs on us during Iraq.
Now we don’t wanna protect anyone anymore. If the world can’t handle us at our worst, then it don’t deserve us at our best.
Good.
Fucking invade it.
Waiting for WW3 fucking sucks.,
What must happen eventually, ought to happen immediately.
Then kill yourself?
Instructions unclear, shot local antifa goon.
It says that your government is actually committed to standing up to China? That's... not the own you thought it was, buddy.
They're banking on sending all of our white Americans to die to replace the country with illegals.
lolol... wat? China is on the verge of a horrific collapse and cannot succeed in taking Taiwan. There is no way they'd try unless you're counting on Biden being bought off to allow it. I'd love to hear your basis for saying this.
They can't support their basic resource needs should a conflict arise. Their short range navy isn't capable of protecting oil shipments. They'd face massive energy shortages and starvation in very short order as a consequence of invading.
Militarily, the island isn't easy for anyone to invade. It's geography made the US think it'd be more costly to invade than Normandy when it was under Japanese control.
Then there is the inferiority of their military tech and much poorer quality navy.
Then there is the fact that Japan and likely Korea, if not Australia and other allies, would join in against China if they were in conflict with the US over Taiwan.
China actually knows this, which is why they did nothing when Pelosi is coming, despite saying they'd retake Taiwan by force if military planes ever entered, and saying they would intercept/shoot Pelosi's plane. Their only weapon is bluster, which just got exposed.
I am with you. Lets rip that bandaid off. Problem is right now America looks fucking weak due to Biden and most of the Democrats are working for the Chinese
Something tells me if war breaks out, Congress will finally get its shit together and promptly remove Biden and Kamala from office.
Pelosi sucks, but in a wartime situation she is a better temporary choice than Biden or Harris.
If you're aware how the Ukraine war is a ponzi scheme, you should also be aware that WW3 would be a banksters' war just like WW1 and 2.
Weak on the world stage and suddenly it all goes to hell
Yeesh
Let all the blacks serve because it is racist to deny them their chance at glory
This is exactly what the Democrats want right before the midterm elections a crisis to explore to steal the election.
Don’t pull the trigger quite yet, Xi… your Manchurian candidate is almost done completely draining our strategic oil reserves and bankrupting our country
If China gets too uppity take out 3 Gorges. Let’s see how well they do without Wuhan, Nanjing, and Shanghai.
ooh china so scary.
they said they were gonna shoot her down.
still waiting
china is pussy. Putin is the only leader with balls left in the entire world.
Just give Taiwan a nuke. It would be hilarious.
The problem with Taiwan is that if China gets 100% serious they have no chance and they know it.
They aren't very keen on the Chinese being royally pissed off when the deed is done.
there's a particular dam I'd aim for if I were them....
They have specifically said they can take out the 3 gorges dam. It would be a suicide mission, but they think they have the air capability to do it.
That is incorrect. China would lose a significant portion of its military in an attempt to take over Taiwan. Taiwan is armed to the teeth, and has a military that is (by some miracle) kind of comparable to China, not to mention better trained. China invading Taiwan would be theoretically possible but it would also destroy the country in the process due to how difficult it is to do so.
I’m pretty sure half of its war effort would be a Taiwan invasion alone.
They would have to nuke the island, and I don’t think China wants to start a nuclear war.
There's no point in nuking the island because they would destroy the chip facilities. Taiwan has positioned itself perfectly on the political stage, to make it almost impossible for China to do anything.
Ever heard of a blockade?
A blockade - an act of war that would result in the already crumbling Three Gorges Dam being destroyed and the might of most of the world crashing down upon China? Yeah, I have, why?
Nobody is going to destroy that dam unless they want to die themselves. It's MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction.
I'm betting a lot of Taiwanese would rather live than die.
Actually invading Taiwan would be a bitch to undertake.
It’s heavily fortified and extremely mountainous. China would suffer millions if not tens of millions trying to take it.
Sorry? Do you have any basis for this comment whatsoever?
I think your misunderstanding is massive. 1) China behaves worse when you don't resist; 2) China would have massive difficulty taking an isolated Taiwan, even if they used their full force, and are incapable of taken Taiwan defended by allies; 3) China would be rapidly resource starved as a consequence of getting cut off in response to an invasion. In short they'd be devastated and humiliated, and that would be amplified given they're already near collapse.
Your unsupported pro-CCP post reminds me that I recently heard wumao/CCP shills like to go to left- and right-wing sites like P.W. "Oooh the CCP will be angry, get scared western devils!"
You see what the chi comes already do to their own citizens? It'll be thrice as bad for the Taiwanese. China is a vengful regime. Damned if you do damned if you don't. Suffering is the only thing in Taiwan's future. At least take as much of China down with you as you can on the way out if it comes to that.
Has the NBA sent their congratulations yet to China for their successful missile launch test?
Taiwan needs to start shooting missiles into China.
Yeah and 2 days ago taiwans head of missile defense and production was dead in his hotel, I do Believe.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-taiwan-defense-official-in-charge-of-missile-production-found-dead-in-hotel-report
China knows now would be the best time for them to strike and take Taiwan by force.
It begins.
China 1.1 replacement rate. China 15 Trillion clean up bill for their environment. China total economic collapse in less than 2 months. China Richest 10,000 Chinese trying to leave China permanently. Also China paper tiger saber rattling.
Yawn wake me when we get to kill the yellow dog eating fuckers. Until then let them wallow in their commie utopia.
There are missiles which do not explode and cause billions in dmage. They have high powered microwave generators on board and cause crazy electrical damage to sensitive components, such as chip fab facilities.
Taiwan really needs to be intercepting these missiles from the coast. If Biden had any balls and realized how seriously it would disrrupt world order if China took over Taiwan, we would have our navy parked right off of Taiwan and deployed batterries of anti-missile defenses at the coast. Ukraine is nothing compared to this. EU is more than capable of handling that if you forced them to get off their ass.
Fuck China, we need a strong leader that will remind China we will shove a nuclear suppository up those pinko commie asses.
(1) Nancy finds out about government interest in a chip company
(2) Nancy's husband buys stock in the chip company
(3) Nancy visits Taiwan and stirs up trouble with China
(4) China blockades Taiwan = no chips from Taiwan
(5) Guess who gets rich off of scarce microchips...
The United States will continue to enrich China through deficit trade at record rates
Fuck Joe Biden
learning from rocket man
lol
BUT CNN TOLD ME XI HAS CANVER
Ghost of Saipan will come to rescue.
Taiwan should nut up lol.
Almost like they ordered Nancy to visit to provide them an excuse.
That's how you know the Chinese won't do shit.
Over Taiwan?
Stop wasting money and hit the fucking island already. Get it over with