I had an uncle that worked for the IRS his entire life. He was a Republican. He also worked in the Cincinnati branch when Lois Lerner was doing her thing. He kept his head down and wouldn't discuss anything he saw there for fear of reprisal and because he was only a year or two from retiring. He passed on over two decades ago. He didn't live much after retirement. He also has an adult daughter with a developmental disability that relied on his benefits. I think the stress got him.
*Robinhood was literally about robbing tax collectors.
It's false that rovbinhood was about taking from the rich, because Robin hood himself was a rich kid taking vengeance for his family's wealth being stolen.
The only story communist Hollyweird hasn't tried to remake lately.
Yes in those days tax collectors were allowed to squeeze extra money beyond what the Roman authorities required to be paid into the Roman treasury.
Today Federal tax collectors are not allowed to keep collections for themselves. They turn the funds into the Treasury, after which the government gives the money to Ukraine, Israel, etc, which kicks much of it back to government officials who then keep it for themselves.
Obviously the Roman system had fewer moving parts.
The tax collectors were allowed to tack on an extra fee to pay their bills, since they weren't getting paid by the Romans. But those extra fees became larger and larger so the tax collectors could live lives of luxury, and they'd tell the centurions you didn't pay your taxes if you didn't pay whatever fee the tax collector set.
So you have greedy men betraying their community for the powers that be. Sounds like RINOs.
Jesus called Matthew away from his profession, called him to repentance, and recomissioned his as a discipline never to greedily steal for the state ever again. Perhaps it's not possible to be redeemed and evil simultaneously. Then there is the notorious story of Zacchaeus who was required to return everything he had stolen in order to prove his repentance.
Zacchaeus was not required to do anything, Luke records that Jesus only told him that He wanted to dine with him. Zacchaeus gave half of his goods to the poor voluntarily and unprompted.
Good works can be an indication that one has been born again, but the only sign commanded to prove repentance is baptism.
It wasn't a cut of the taxes, it was a cut on top of the taxes.
Romans say "this guy owes us 5%". Tax collector goes and tells him "You owe the romans 6%" ... or 8% or 10%, entirely up to the tax collector and how rich he feels like being at the expense of his countrymen.
It’s essentially the same. No tax farmer is going to work for free; that’s how the tax farming system was designed
Seems unfit, but it’s essentially no different than any other middleman
It was an extortive system, which accomplish two things for the roman’s; they got paid, and the tax collectors took the heat. It was a good system, too, for the tax collectors as they got rich
Most middlemen don't have a state-enforced monopoly, a state-enforced requirement that you purchase the product, and state violence on tap to jail you until you pay whatever they unilaterally decide.
It was advantageous for the romans and the tax collectors, but that's just political insiders teaming up to shank the outsiders. Sure, a vaxx mandate is good for the pharmaceutical companies, investors, and the politicians getting lobbied - but that doesn't excuse the abusiveness of the system.
The story of Robin Hood once referenced often by the left is no longer. As it is a story not only of taking from the rich and giving to the poor: it is a story of the tax collectors and the state. The historical truth is that the tax collector consumes what wealth the poor have created.
Luke 3:12-14 Some tax collectors came to be baptized. They asked him, “Teacher, what should we do?” He told them, “Don’t collect more money than you are ordered to collect.” Some soldiers asked him, “And what should we do?” He told them, “Be satisfied with your pay, and never use threats or blackmail to get money from anyone.”
That was because they were under oppressive Roman rule and they were the enforcers of the unjust laws, and got filthy rich off that exploitation and cruelty towards their own people.
If Rome was in decline and people seeing degener you in the open and thier taxes wasted why would they want to pay it? The fucking roads here being worked on since covid started its just a money sink for citizens.
Now you never see a physical person because it comes smooooooth out of your paycheck via direct deposit. Now that hate has transferred to law enforcement.
Edited my w4 2 years (happy 2019 for me) in advance to assist with the attempt at tax strike I kept hearing should be happening. pay my dues at the end of the year because I feel alone in this desire to starve the beast. still paying 0 to the fed through the year till tax time comes. its fun math i suppose to figure out what to set aside
It still is a shamed career. Quick raise your hand if you know an IRS agent IRL!
I had an uncle that worked for the IRS his entire life. He was a Republican. He also worked in the Cincinnati branch when Lois Lerner was doing her thing. He kept his head down and wouldn't discuss anything he saw there for fear of reprisal and because he was only a year or two from retiring. He passed on over two decades ago. He didn't live much after retirement. He also has an adult daughter with a developmental disability that relied on his benefits. I think the stress got him.
*Robinhood was literally about robbing tax collectors.
It's false that rovbinhood was about taking from the rich, because Robin hood himself was a rich kid taking vengeance for his family's wealth being stolen.
The only story communist Hollyweird hasn't tried to remake lately.
My grandmother was. Good woman but, things have changed so..
I wouldn't hang out with anyone who works for the IRS, I'd be ashamed. Tax collectors are lowest of the low. Prostitutes get more respect
prosties > Democrats > RINOs > IRS
lol
Yes in those days tax collectors were allowed to squeeze extra money beyond what the Roman authorities required to be paid into the Roman treasury.
Today Federal tax collectors are not allowed to keep collections for themselves. They turn the funds into the Treasury, after which the government gives the money to Ukraine, Israel, etc, which kicks much of it back to government officials who then keep it for themselves.
Obviously the Roman system had fewer moving parts.
The tax collectors were allowed to tack on an extra fee to pay their bills, since they weren't getting paid by the Romans. But those extra fees became larger and larger so the tax collectors could live lives of luxury, and they'd tell the centurions you didn't pay your taxes if you didn't pay whatever fee the tax collector set.
So you have greedy men betraying their community for the powers that be. Sounds like RINOs.
Lest we forget that Jesus called a tax collector to follow him and he become one of the Twelve…
Jesus called Matthew away from his profession, called him to repentance, and recomissioned his as a discipline never to greedily steal for the state ever again. Perhaps it's not possible to be redeemed and evil simultaneously. Then there is the notorious story of Zacchaeus who was required to return everything he had stolen in order to prove his repentance.
Zacchaeus was not required to do anything, Luke records that Jesus only told him that He wanted to dine with him. Zacchaeus gave half of his goods to the poor voluntarily and unprompted.
Good works can be an indication that one has been born again, but the only sign commanded to prove repentance is baptism.
So what you are saying is that out of 87,000 armed iRS agents, one will be a good person?
I’m annoyed that they are using the Bible to justify hatred of tax collectors.
Romans used a tax farming system. A tax collector was basically a private collection agency that kept a cut of the taxes as compensation.
They were hated for the same reason we hate the IRS; no one likes to pay taxes
It wasn't a cut of the taxes, it was a cut on top of the taxes.
Romans say "this guy owes us 5%". Tax collector goes and tells him "You owe the romans 6%" ... or 8% or 10%, entirely up to the tax collector and how rich he feels like being at the expense of his countrymen.
It’s essentially the same. No tax farmer is going to work for free; that’s how the tax farming system was designed
Seems unfit, but it’s essentially no different than any other middleman
It was an extortive system, which accomplish two things for the roman’s; they got paid, and the tax collectors took the heat. It was a good system, too, for the tax collectors as they got rich
Most middlemen don't have a state-enforced monopoly, a state-enforced requirement that you purchase the product, and state violence on tap to jail you until you pay whatever they unilaterally decide.
It was advantageous for the romans and the tax collectors, but that's just political insiders teaming up to shank the outsiders. Sure, a vaxx mandate is good for the pharmaceutical companies, investors, and the politicians getting lobbied - but that doesn't excuse the abusiveness of the system.
Why does that annoy you?
Genuinely interested here.
Jesus also said render unto caesar, what is caesars.
I take this to mean, separate yourself from govt issued currency. Change my mind.
Pretty much. The ‘Kingdom of God (or of heaven)’ as the spiritual concept central to Jesus’ teaching, is still misunderstood to this day
Taxation is theft.
Inflation is taxation
The story of Robin Hood once referenced often by the left is no longer. As it is a story not only of taking from the rich and giving to the poor: it is a story of the tax collectors and the state. The historical truth is that the tax collector consumes what wealth the poor have created.
Robin Hood never robbed from the rich to give to the poor, that's communist propaganda.
Robin Hood robbed from the government and returned it to the overtaxed citizenry.
Yes.
"government"
He already said "the rich"....
Government has no money. They take yours and spend it. They aren't rich. They are parasites.
In Rome in those day actors were considered subhuman. Cannot actually deny this logic.
Let’s get biblical. Biblical. I wanna get biblical. Let me hear your Bible talk.
Rip ONJ
I’ll show myself out.
Go to your county clerk office. Gauranteed 100% women. They couldn't find a single male willing to fuck people in the ass.
There are work opportunity tax credits to hire women/minority/veterans first. One of the many devices to implode workforces..
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Not the only thing I would restore from the Bible back onto society.
That’s only because they didn’t have the FBI back then
It's partly because they extorted everyone for more than they were supposed to collect.
that was the tax farming system
already a thang
And yet, there is also the fact that at the end of the day, Jesus did eat with Tax Collectors, and was widely criticized for it.
That was because they were under oppressive Roman rule and they were the enforcers of the unjust laws, and got filthy rich off that exploitation and cruelty towards their own people.
USURY IS NOT CHRISTIAN
Well, that's was different. That was tax collectors working for a burgeoning oppressive regime which despised the population it ruled over...
Oh.
If Rome was in decline and people seeing degener you in the open and thier taxes wasted why would they want to pay it? The fucking roads here being worked on since covid started its just a money sink for citizens.
i'll bet that back in the day tax collectors had some of that sweeeet early life....
In the Good old days they would shoot revenuers.
Can we all apply and then use those guns to hunt down commies?
Now you never see a physical person because it comes smooooooth out of your paycheck via direct deposit. Now that hate has transferred to law enforcement.
Edited my w4 2 years (happy 2019 for me) in advance to assist with the attempt at tax strike I kept hearing should be happening. pay my dues at the end of the year because I feel alone in this desire to starve the beast. still paying 0 to the fed through the year till tax time comes. its fun math i suppose to figure out what to set aside
You're already flagged in the computer. Just have to get an agent on you.
Yup you're flagged for sure. But fuck 'em, make them work for your money.
sounds fine by me