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SwampView 31 points ago +31 / -0

Certainly a possibility with a sealed warrant.

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HCQ_ZPAK_ZINC [S] 20 points ago +20 / -0

So Trump should demand both warrants be released. It will trigger the hell out of them.

XD

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Badradness 12 points ago +12 / -0

Affidavits

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K-Harbour 5 points ago +5 / -0

Let’s be precise in our wording:

We need to see the “oath(s) or affirmation(s)”.

https://patriots.win/p/15JAT5Vsdt/where-is-the-oath-or-affirmation/

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Gadsden 4 points ago +4 / -0

Bet they wish they'd found something.

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RabidZoo 5 points ago +5 / -0

You don't have to "find" something when you're the one inserting it into the folder yourself.

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IHaveEvidence 26 points ago +26 / -0

Fuck the warrant

I want to see the signed and sworn affidavit that the warrant was based on

And the name of the affiant

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K-Harbour 7 points ago +7 / -0

EXACTLY. ^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^

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deplorablebot 4 points ago +4 / -0

True but the parameters in the warrant should be telling also. For instance, is it reasonable to be looking for documents in Melania's panty drawer?

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2016TrumpMAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

There was a warrant. What there was not, was the affidavit.

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OPsMom 8 points ago +8 / -0

Didn't they claim to provide a copy of the warrant to Trumps legal counsel?

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Joe_Snow 18 points ago +19 / -1

Trump's attorney said she wasn't given a copy, they made her "view it" from 10 feet away

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OPsMom 10 points ago +10 / -0

Ah... I know the FBI claims one was provided. This is very fishy.

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Azarak 6 points ago +6 / -0

They also claimed to have provided the 'receipt' of items taken.

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K-Harbour 6 points ago +6 / -0

Let’s be precise in our wording:

We need to see the “oath(s) or affirmation(s)”.

https://patriots.win/p/15JAT5Vsdt/where-is-the-oath-or-affirmation/

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anotherthing 0 points ago +1 / -1

This is correct. It's the language of the 4th Amendment, which has been expanded on in the last few decades to include what was signed off on by the judge as well as the reason it was taken to a judge.

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MJPalazzolo 2 points ago +2 / -0

You mean like those four sycophants on the 'payroll' at the F.I.S.A. Court, who signed off, four times, on some asinine warrant applications regarding the Russian hoax?

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wadewatts 2 points ago +2 / -0

I wonder how many panties they took and if the receipts list the color and where they were sniffed for legal purposes prior to seizing them. I wonder if the warrant required this per Brandon's orders.

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ShiningShrine 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump's attorney did not say that. The only source we have for that statement is Eric trump.

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keeponwinning 2 points ago +2 / -0

They made multiple statements, and had multiple attorneys site. Initially the feds refused, then let them view one from a distance (how childish is that?), but eventually one of Trump's attorneys was given a copy at the very end they said on with Dinesh, though they didn't say they were allowed to keep it we assume they were. We still need the judge to release the court's copy, because who knows if the one the feds gave to Trump's attorney is the same.

Then there's the sealed affidavit which the doj is not asking to be released. That's the $$$.

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ShiningShrine 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you can source otherwise please do

The warrant is sealed to the public and the affidavit is protecting the source

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keeponwinning 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump Lawyer Christina Bobb Gives Her First-Hand Account of the FBI Raid on Mar-a-Lago

"wouldn't give it to me initially" "they eventually showed it to me" "then they gave me a copy of it after the thing was over"

This is just the warrant, not the affidavit of course, which is still sealed.

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Asilimum 1 point ago +2 / -1

No, they got a copy of it and also a copy of the receipt

Trump would be writing about a missing warrant and receipt if he didn't have them

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Block_Helen 1 point ago +1 / -0

OP is a little confused. Trump's lawyers were allowed to see the warrant (from 10 feet away, reportedly). They were NOT allowed to see the legal basis for the warrant that the judge signed off on.

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TheNotSoEvilEngineer 15 points ago +15 / -0

It was a sealed warrant, so there was no reason given in the document.

Basically they can abuse the shit out of it and just go on a fishing expedition cause you don't have a limit on what you can search if you don't disclose what you are looking for.

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OPsMom 3 points ago +3 / -0

Ahhhh... I see.

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ShiningShrine 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's sealed to the public not the parties involved.

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Pissonit 2 points ago +2 / -0

I read they only let them look at it and didn’t leave a copy……Who knows🤷‍♂️

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Gyrfalcon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Garland stated in his presser that it was given to Trump’s attorney.

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one3five 7 points ago +7 / -0

it's written in crayon

something like this

Mr. Orange Man Bad, open the door or we'll huff and puff and blow your house down!

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Vox_Dobad 4 points ago +4 / -0

But then they'd just get distracted and blow each other

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wadewatts 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also "bring panties back for Brandon to sniff"

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thatsnotminesir 7 points ago +7 / -0

Ex-cop here. I have written and served search warrants many times.

There are two documents in the search warrant. The Search Warrant itself, and the Affidavit in support of the search warrant.

The affidavit has all the details of the probable cause needed to obtain the search warrant and spells out specially what you are looking for.

The search warrant itself has no details of the probable cause or what your are looking for.

The affidavit can be sealed and held confidential because it contains info that could jeapordize the investigaton if given to the suspect. NOT the warrant itself.

When you serve the warrant. You MUST give them a copy of the warrant. NOT the affidavit. If the person is not home, you have to leave the a copy of the warrant at the location of the search. If you don't, everything found in the search is fruit of the poisonous tree and cannot be used in Court.

There is absolutely NO reason that that a copy of the warrant should not be given to them. The warrants do not contain the sensitive info. The affidavit does.

Refusing to provide a copy of the warrant make the search null and void. Refusing to give it to the attorneys is even worse. Nothing found in that search would be admissible in court.

They are lying. And they had no intention of using anything found in an actual criminal case.

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Crappydatum 4 points ago +4 / -0

See my post above

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Smurfection 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yep. I think this is why the FBI only let Trump lawyers see it from 10 feet away and didn't leave a copy. It was weird how Merrick Garland said he left a "property receipt" that was required by law but he said the FBI didn't leave the warrant. That to me is an indication that there wasn't any warrant at all. The DOJ and FBI were hoping they'd find something and then they were going to draft a warrant based on what they found and pretend it was written before.

Also, ya'll know, Joe Biden was in on this too and that Judge Reinbutt most definitely knew it was a fill-in-the-blank warrant.

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ShiningShrine 6 points ago +6 / -0

Video of Trump's lawyer Christina Bobb acknowledging not only that Trump's team has the warrant, but also the receipt for what was taken, skip to 1:50 for the confirmation: https://youtu.be/jD-cxlF7dNI

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Sylvester1212 5 points ago +5 / -0

DEA did that to me. Case was dropped after all the laws they broke but it gave the wonderful state of Florida enough information to open a real case off the illegal DEA case. 5 years in prison for growing plants.

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Badradness 5 points ago +5 / -0

FBI faggots are definitely creating the next traitor hoax against the rightful president.

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mugatucrazypills 5 points ago +5 / -0

They can make 2 fakes

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diogenesofthearch 7 points ago +7 / -0

Just show up with a truckload of false ones where finding the real one will be like trying to find the flag in all the goo in a game of Double Dare.

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OPsMom 3 points ago +3 / -0

I loved that show.

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Testosteroneape2000 5 points ago +5 / -0

Trump is waiting for the retrospective warrant so he can release the security footage.

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keeponwinning 5 points ago +5 / -0

I expect you are right. First to make sure the court's copy matches, so he's not caught in a gotcha where they claim he faked his. Then when the court's warrant says they can only search locations A,B, and C, and he has CCTV footage showing they were in additional locations D, E, and Melania's underwear drawers, that's going to be some primo campaign footage.

There's a possibility that the court's warrant says they can search everywhere, which would be nuts. Normally warrants are a bit more narrowly tailored if the intent is to hold up in a subsequent prosecution. If the intent is to find other things for unrelated crimes and prosecutions though you don't care. In that case it would indicate the raid was about jan 6.

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mightyclaw 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's why they made the lawyer stay 10 feet away: it was actually Epstein's client list.

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mainsoda 4 points ago +4 / -0

Why else would they not let anyone look at it for days?

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LordStirling 4 points ago +4 / -0

That’s what I was thinking. They wouldn’t show Trump team a warrant because they wanted to see what they could find and then write the warrant to claim that’s what they were looking for all along.

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ravonaf 4 points ago +6 / -2

And what exactly is anyone supposed to do about it? Vote "harder" yet again?

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The_Left_The 3 points ago +5 / -2

We're supposed to become the people who count the votes.

Unlike you, who has done literally nothing other than cry into your soy that someone else isn't fixing your problems for you.

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ravonaf 3 points ago +4 / -1

How did counting the votes work out for you in 2020?

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The_Left_The 4 points ago +5 / -1

The reason we lost 2020 was because we weren't the ones counting the votes, idiot.

For some reason, you decided that it was more important to talk tough and then sit at home instead of actively working the polls and throwing out fake votes.

And because you were defiling your mobility scooter with your jacking off, the deep state was able to cheat without anyone to stop them.

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ravonaf 3 points ago +4 / -1

No. The reason we lost was because we didn't AUDIT the votes. Counting the same fraudulent votes over and over again won't make a difference. But people who don't understand the process don't get it. But go ahead. Count the same fraudulent votes again and keep calling me names. See if you get a different result.

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obamagavemeaphone 1 point ago +2 / -1

"We're" waiting for ((you)) to lead the way... show us how it's done... you glowing faggot fuck!

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ravonaf 1 point ago +2 / -1

No answers, just insults. Got it.

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obamagavemeaphone 0 points ago +1 / -1

Lead us... faggot. Or stfu

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ravonaf 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, I don't think so. Why would I want to lead someone with no answers who is full of anger and nothing but insults. You need to chill dude. Calling people names over and over again isn't a good look.

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obamagavemeaphone 0 points ago +1 / -1

tl;dr

((you)) can't come here and say that nothing's going to get done because nobody's doing anything because everyone is just sitting around complaining about shit and then when ((you)) get called out for being a faggot who's just sitting around not doing anything bitching about how nothing's being done and how ((you)) need to lead us instead of being a fucking faggot... then ((you)) bitch about it. I'm not reading any your drivel shit. shut the fuck up!

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ravonaf 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can do anything I want as long as I don't break the rules. Just like you can rant and rave and call me faggot over and over again. I think, since you are such an internet tough guy. Why don't you make me shut the fuck up.

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obamagavemeaphone 0 points ago +1 / -1

👌🤡 Ok Faggot 🤡👌

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jhewish 3 points ago +3 / -0

There was a warrant with a private citizen assigned to it, wifredo ferrer, an obama faggot.

The name was then hidden again.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64875382/parties/united-states-v-seald-pen-register/

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ShiningShrine 3 points ago +3 / -0

Video of Trump's lawyer Christina Bobb acknowledging not only that Trump's team has the warrant, but also the receipt for what was taken, skip to 1:50 for the confirmation: https://youtu.be/jD-cxlF7dNI

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HCQ_ZPAK_ZINC [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

The affidavits will probably state that it was the fake news NY Times article with the toilet notes pictures that triggered the whole thing.

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Crappydatum 3 points ago +3 / -0

As of the time of the interview, Trump's lawyer had the warrant. The question remaining is, at 06:30 when the FBI first showed up and she arrived an hour later and ASKED for the warrant, did they just show it to her from ten feet away, or did they hand it to her?

My guess, they NEVER gave it to her for the 9.5 HOURS they ransacked the house. As they were LEAVING they Finally gave her a copy of the warrant.

Why is this important? Because as a lawyer, she could have been analyzing the warrant and parsing its language to determine what was and more importantly WASN'T included in the search. They knew damn good and well they were going to exceed the letter of the law on the warrant, so they waited until after the fact to let her have it, now that it was too late! This is also why they refused to let them observe the search in real time, because she LEGALLY could have challenged them every step of the way ensuring that they were following the warrant's language to the letter.

If the police show up at your house with a warrant to search your bedroom, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A SWORN AFFIDAVIT, but then find something in your garage that's incriminating but unrelated, they can then do Lawfare and acquire another warrant to "legally" search your garage, even though their first search was completely illegal. Then lawyers get to fight over it in court. Likely the police / state will lose but the damage is done, especially in the court of public opinion.

https://youtu.be/jD-cxlF7dNI

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Crappydatum 2 points ago +2 / -0

Example REAL search warrants and affidavits

https://evawintl.org/wp-content/uploads/18-Appendix-B-Search-Warrants.pdf

The affidavit is key, because someone swore an oath that what they were claiming was true. The only reason to hide the affidavit is because they want to hide the identity of the signer. Their "mole".

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MJPalazzolo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Correct. The deep state had to first successfully conduct the ruse and retrieve deliberately planted documents before they could tailor the "warrant" to fit the "crime".

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HCQ_ZPAK_ZINC [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Bingo!

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Shaffro 2 points ago +2 / -0

The commies are fabricating more fake documents.

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magalee 2 points ago +2 / -0

My goodness.. These democrat retards are beyond incompetent. LOL!

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CaJuN-Polak 1 point ago +1 / -0

My suspicion, as well.

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SirSelrahc 1 point ago +1 / -0

Here is the issue..... they allowed them in because they SAID they had a warrant. If they never saw it... if there never was one... its not the FBI fault. The FBI will simply say they LET us in. We were welcomed.

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Crappydatum 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kind of like inviting a vampire into your house?

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SirSelrahc 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly lol. +1 for cultured frens

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Thebillster 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wonder if it was even a criminal search warrant and not a bs administrative search warrant. That is a thing.

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LoobintheToobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just like the elections...

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UberPatr10t 1 point ago +1 / -0

You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means…

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2016TrumpMAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

There was a warrant. What there was not, was the affidavit accompanying the warrant.

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skumario 1 point ago +1 / -0

They can do forensics/dating of the document.

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ChynahIzAzzhole 1 point ago +1 / -0

You god-damned right. That's way the Presidents lawyer was hown the warrant... from 10 feet away and NOT given a copy.

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hillaryforprison 1 point ago +1 / -0

YES. Obama's birth certificate artist is on the job.

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PunishedSnek 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thought experiment: if a deranged FBI agent on his day off, dressed the part, showed up with his badge and weapon at your house and insisted he had a sealed warrant and could enter and search your house. What do you do?