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No, Trump didn't commit actionable treason or espionage (www.americanthinker.com)            STUPID  S.O.B.  
posted ago by Lostmanyfriends ago by Lostmanyfriends +2326 / -2
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Thelongrun 113 points ago +113 / -0

"One former CIA head even put out a tweet effectively saying that Trump should be executed for treason."

The C.I.A have form, when it comes to this.

JFK.

The C.I.A needs to be JFK'd.

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Thelongrun 26 points ago +26 / -0

Believe it or not, it wasn't Brennan. It was Hayden.

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Thelongrun 5 points ago +5 / -0

You are right. The Company is for life.

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DaBirdisDaWord 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yo you watch Prison Break?

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Thelongrun 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've never seen it, I know of it, but I haven't watched TV for a long time now... I just checked it out on Wikipedia... looks good...

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TNVol 8 points ago +8 / -0

George Bush has entered the chat

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TheWinningNeverStops 5 points ago +5 / -0

They love killing presidents

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Thelongrun 6 points ago +6 / -0

They do. And they've had so much practise.

I pray every day for President Trump's safety.

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deleted 4 points ago +7 / -3
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Mouthpounder 3 points ago +6 / -3

Yeah you gonna do it yourself haha

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4DHopscotch 61 points ago +61 / -0

Republicans: On defense since 1988.

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Retard_Strength 33 points ago +33 / -0

The Harlem Globetrotters play the Washington Generals every game. and every game the Washington Generals lose. and after every game they all share the same locker room. and the crowd still cheers.

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NvJohansson 5 points ago +5 / -0

HG are 16, 462 - 6 vs the Generals.

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10MeV 7 points ago +7 / -0

So, you're saying there's a chance!?

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NvJohansson 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hummingbird Grapefruit missed three center shots (hail Mary's)in a row at the end of their last defeat. Yeah there's always a chance. Trump was a win against all odds in 2016 as per the msm, wasn't he?

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FreeThought 20 points ago +21 / -1

It’s called “eternal defense.” They’ve done nothing since the 19th century.

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Xanisor 9 points ago +9 / -0

They get more money when losing. Just like a bad wrestler.

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Geralt_of_Rivia1 4 points ago +4 / -0

That isnt when Nixon was nearly impeached over bullshit.

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Viewer01 33 points ago +33 / -0

Its like being the only reasonable person at the Salem witch trials.

or the only one not going along with chicken little's bull shit.

Trump could probably actually call up the militia and shoot them all and we probably wouldn't believe a word of it even if we saw the video.

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NovaLegion 38 points ago +39 / -1

idk bro I've seen women on reddit and I think the salem witch trials were probably not wrong

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Viewer01 11 points ago +11 / -0

Who knows, maybe the original trials were just doing away with actual bitches, and historians through the years thought the claims of mind control and other sorcery was misinterpreted as witches.

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THERMONUCLEARMAGA 8 points ago +8 / -0

It was gas lighting from the medical industry. Herbalist's actually cured people stopping them from paying to have themselves be tortured in progressive medicine.

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minotaurbeach 8 points ago +8 / -0

It was a group of young [12-16years old?]girls that collectively made accusations and got people killed.

The first victim was a 40 year old widow, that won her case, but the girls fell down in court, saying she was using powers to choke them, and she was hanged as a witch.

They accused adults in the village they did not like.

A few men were killed too-Before it was stopped, the girls were separated and questioned- and they found that their stories did not match up.

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THERMONUCLEARMAGA 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just like Juicy's "lynching." The "victim's" are megalomaniac's high off the current crisis. The fake crisis was witch attacks. The reason the hegemony wanted "witch's" hunted was because herbalist's provided actual medicine and it was a convenient way to not only scare people from them, but actually murder their competition for them.

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NvJohansson 4 points ago +4 / -0

There was also a huge perversity factor involved in it. The witch Hunters got off seeing the naked in court to prove they were witches and seeing them tortured naked

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SaddleTramp 3 points ago +3 / -0

They weren't.

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InTrumpWeTrust3 -1 points ago +2 / -3

The thing is even if Trump was selling nuclear information on the side, he's the friggin President, he can do what he wants.

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BasicKekinomics 23 points ago +24 / -1

Wood's core argument against Trump is that a president's plenary power does not extend to nuclear secrets. The reason, Wood says, is that the Atomic Energy Acts of 1946 and 1954 produced a super-category of classification involving anything nuclear, one that overrides even the president. That's untrue.

Congress cannot override the president's plenary power. Presidents can voluntarily respect a national security law, but they do not have to abide by it. Again, plenary power means, as Wikipedia summarizes, "a power that has been granted to a body or person in absolute terms, with no review of or limitations upon the exercise of that power."

Wood cites Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518 (1988) to argue that nuclear secrets override the president's power. He contends that "[t]he 1988 Supreme Court case Navy v. Egan confirmed that classification authority flows from the president except in specific instances separated from his powers by law." Wrong again.

The Egan decision examines only whether a civil service board can review a "laborer's" being denied national security clearance. In that context, the Supreme Court was clear about the president's plenary power, unimpeded by congressional acts:

The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U.S.Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U. S. 886, 367 U. S. 890 (1961).

In sum, the only proof you need that Trump declassified the documents is the fact that, when he was still president, Trump treated them as declassified. Biden cannot criminalize Trump's actions by later re-classifying the documents (and there's no evidence that he did). And of course, if there were nuclear codes, they are changed regularly and would certainly be changed from one administration to the next, meaning that any information Trump has is as useful as the cartoon in an old Bazooka bubble gum wrapper.

shills btfo

it's like the author specifically wrote this to refute the handshakes that have been descending upon this place the past few days

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BigIronBigIron 6 points ago +6 / -0

Actual nuke codes:

00000000

P7P7P7P7P7P7

This message will self-destruct in 10 seconds

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zooty 5 points ago +5 / -0

I'm presuming you're not just joking but for anyone not aware...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsei3aqTKGo

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Vox_Dobad 1 point ago +1 / -0

12345

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BobSux 3 points ago +3 / -0

It’s really simple.

In the Constitution, the executive power is vested exclusively in the President. Congress can try to pass whatever legislation that they want, but legislation doesn’t override the Constitution. Congress simply can’t take executive power away from the President.

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45ForEver2024 -3 points ago +2 / -5

I guess we will find out what the supreme court says.

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laxslash 21 points ago +21 / -0

What do you mean by "actionable?" He didn't commit ANY espionage or treason.

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InTrumpWeTrust3 -2 points ago +1 / -3

I actually don't agree, honestly with most of the nuclear if a country really wants to get it they can just put the resources in it. Trump did a smart business move here, likely getting us cheap gas and making some money in the process.

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MAGAzineman -3 points ago +2 / -5

How does him keeping nuclear documents get us cheap gas?

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MostEffectualTopKek 2 points ago +2 / -0

What nooooocleur documents does he have ?

You fucking soy boys latch onto everything while the media and the pollies like Pelosi laugh and make bank off you.

When you look in the mirror, aren't you sick of seeing a sheep ?

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MAGAzineman -3 points ago +1 / -4

Dude you realize I was just replying to the guy above me. WTF dude.

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InTrumpWeTrust3 -1 points ago +1 / -2

Not keeping them, rather giving them to the right people

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Arkanicide2022 12 points ago +12 / -0

But muh orange man bad!

Really solid article that dismantles the lies.

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VarusSPQR 12 points ago +12 / -0

People need to stop making legal arguments. The law no longer applies in this third world shithole.

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Remove-All-Communist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Absolutely. So why the fuck are all Conservatives following the laws when the Leftist cucks are not? It's because we will beat them legally and we will put them all in prison legally and we will hang the traitors, legally. We do what's right and it will pay off in the end. If for some reason, that doesn't work and we gotta get nasty and get things done, God will have our backs and we will defeat this evil. YES, THESE LEFTISTS ARE STRAIGHT UP EVIL. The Lord is on our side and we have the higher ground.

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Vox_Dobad 1 point ago +1 / -0

I get where you're coming from, but I think it's important to cover the legitimate bases too. It's not unlike the importance of voting, even though we know the system is largely rigged.

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BerkeleyKM 10 points ago +11 / -1

I’m indifferent to any analysis about Trump. He’s the rightful president and he needs to replace the foreign usurper Xiden. The means of him repositioning himself is up to them. Hopefully they will not resist a peaceful impeachment of the White House steward and eventual reelection of Trump. This new sham appears they will not agree to peaceful terms.

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Dirk_Nager 9 points ago +9 / -0

God bless you folks you still have the energy to refute all of the nonsense

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XDingoX83 9 points ago +9 / -0

I said this a few days ago. Anyone in this world of classified information knows all the rules regarding classification comes from the president therefore they can never be in violation of it. When you read into programs you have to read the executive order that creates these classification systems. People are fucking retarded.

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HankScorpio 7 points ago +7 / -0

No Trump didnt pay a foreign agent to interfere in an election. No the FBI under Trump didnt use a GOP funded and foreign agent created dossier to justify spying of the presidential campaign of the Democrat Party. The DNC did that.

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Jan6Insurrectionist 6 points ago +6 / -0

They don't care.

It's kind of a miracle they didn't just hang him anyway to prove they can.

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RogueLeaderX 6 points ago +6 / -0

CIA isn't concerned about National Security. They're concerned about their own power.

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Diana 6 points ago +6 / -0

Real reason for the timing of the raid:

Aug 2 (Reuters) - Republican voters on Tuesday chose a raft of candidates supporting Donald Trump's 2020 election 'falsehoods' in multiple party primaries for the November general election - a stark display of the former president's grip on his party.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-looms-large-voters-five-states-choose-candidates-congress-governor-2022-08-02/

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vitalsine 5 points ago +5 / -0

I took a peek at Twitter via Fritter, and Dems are insane. They really think the real president is gonna face some sort of punishment. Between this and CDC vanquishing their mask mandates, keep an eye on the suicides this month, especially since Dems think the new suicide hotline is useless lol

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SecedeNOW 5 points ago +5 / -0

Lots of empty skulls on the left trumpeting about the Atlantic article - another commie rag that's always wrong about everything.

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Boruzu 4 points ago +4 / -0

How about he didn’t commit ANY of those things.

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Bramage 4 points ago +4 / -0

OMFG I HATE the Left...they are so very stupid.

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Ex-libtard 4 points ago +4 / -0

lol no shit

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GuestRanch 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's still not clear if criminal charges will be filed. There's that fork in the road... then another fork would be conviction.

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Whitespace 1 point ago +1 / -0

If the charges are laid in DC, filing charges and conviction would be the same event.

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ThorsonTT 4 points ago +4 / -0

According to the Ministry of Truth and Love, we're all guilty of treason.

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US3RNAM3 3 points ago +3 / -0

Orly!? Ffs

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BoDude 3 points ago +3 / -0

Bull Shit

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emjayt 3 points ago +3 / -0

Leftists never let pesky things like reality and truth get in their way.

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Canadiapede7 3 points ago +3 / -0

They are gonna have some random "former" Trump supporter go crazy and kill Trump because of this Treason BS then use that to take all the guns away. This way they can still say look these Republicans are too dangerous.

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Melania2032 3 points ago +5 / -2

Yeah but the check marked liberal Phd gender studies professor on Twitter, with They/them pronouns and a Ukrainian flag in the Twitter bio said he’s finished this time!! Brian Stelter told me the walls are closing in!! Rachel Maddow said this is the beginning of the end!! Surely these folks would not lie!!

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sweeswee14 11 points ago +11 / -0

Rachel Maddow actually cried, literally shed tears, when mueller said there was no collusion with trump and russia. Think about that in the starkest terms. Why would you cry when you find out your President DIDN'T collude with a foreign nation? That is how clownworld works. Everything is backwards.

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BlitheringIdiot 5 points ago +5 / -0

It's the poison of hatred.

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VarusSPQR 3 points ago +3 / -0

It doesn’t matter if he’s guilty. They will do everything they can do to rig it. They want him dead. They want us dead as well. He’s just in the way.

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CDXX 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, fuck em. We don’t die.

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GrayManNumber333 2 points ago +2 / -0

Or anything even close.

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Glad_to_be_here 1 point ago +1 / -0

Until they say he did.

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BloodDe 1 point ago +1 / -0

Someone break the bad news to Rachel Maddow

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frogface 1 point ago +1 / -0

But He grabbed a pussy ! RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE !

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friarfox 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's not like Trump gave the Russians 20 percent of our uranium which of course is totally fine. Ask Hillary.

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SacredBandOfPedes 1 point ago +1 / -0

I know that there are many folks that are guilty of sedition.

Past and current members of our government, and government adjacent folks (Democrat and Republican party officials).

Also a shitload of "journalists".

Big Media and internet site executives.

Many lobbyists as well.

I hope their crimes eventually catch up to them all.

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Anyone 1 point ago +1 / -0

Anyone believes anything these retarded democraps spew out their asholes??? If you do your as mentally ill as a tranny.

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PandoraBoxed 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can all of the media 'personalities" who are repeating "espionage" be sued by Trump for defamation? Wouldn't the Alex Jones/Sandy Hook trial case set precedent? Any lawyers here?

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conservativefrank 0 points ago +1 / -1

If he did, every other President did too.

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warlord30 -2 points ago +5 / -7

Are we still reading the American Thinker lol?

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NeverInterruptEnemy 8 points ago +9 / -1

I’m not sure why not.

Is it getting in the way of retards posting infowars and gateway pundit?

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off_teh_copium 2 points ago +3 / -1

because some here believe any old shit if it supports the cause, use promocode RUDY20