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live3ordye 77 points ago +78 / -1

Where can I get a copy of the 'corn-themed' Doom game?

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anticlown 48 points ago +48 / -0

its called chex quest

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x79q3pb 28 points ago +28 / -0

Oh my heart! The joy of pulling that completely iconic and actually fun and enjoyable game from a cereal box, forever burned into memory.

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JesusMaga 20 points ago +20 / -0

Here’s a link that will explain what ChexQuest is for all you poor souls who missed out

And Here it is on Steam

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Drewniverse 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wtf? Lmao. I promise I would have gotten that if they sold it in my county.

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PapaPepe 12 points ago +13 / -1

I dunno about a Doom because that game is clearly Wolfenstein

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Meathe 20 points ago +20 / -0

Wolfenstein had a blue status bar, with the current weapon selected on the right bottom corner. Doom had the grey status bar, with yellow ammo tallies on the right.

The characters were meant to be related, so the head pics for status are really similar.

(no downvotes, though- I had to fire them up to check)

(edit) - Definitely Doom based - higher res image here

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Bearing51 64 points ago +65 / -1

$100k+ farming equipment relying on 20+ year old computer systems. Figures John Deere would be this fucking cheap about their products.

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IHateThisTimeline 31 points ago +31 / -0

Because if comes from "Chyna"

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chuckachookah 34 points ago +34 / -0

I think it's more that John Deere is a legacy company and has gobbled up "tech companies" to try to maintain their market position. Many (not all) of the companies are either: trash, unproven garbage based on narrow business ideas or try to put John Deere into the "subscription" revenue model that so many investors now demand.

Sadly, this is a similar version of "you will own nothing".

Some farmer friends of mine have told me "I can't even work on my own machines anymore". And, not because it's "all computers" and they don't have the know-how, but because everytime they try to work on these machines, anything they do will invalidate their warranties and/or they have to have the machine "phone home" to John Deere.

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1in1024th 28 points ago +28 / -0

John Deere mad when farmers "learn to code"

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chuckachookah 24 points ago +24 / -0

KEK!

Indeed. I do find that it strange that anyone would discount a human that has literally grown up a) solving problems every single day and b) are essentially engineers (1/3rd mechanical, 1/3rd electrical, and 1/3rd biological) somehow are too dumb to figure out coding.

My farmers are maybe the best figure-outers I know.

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Standingoak 10 points ago +10 / -0

Coder/hackers be called Tractor Improvement & maintenance engineers with mobile offices.

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Tbonius45maximus 6 points ago +6 / -0

Thats why people buy john deere and immediately install topcon gps system because deere is trash

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TaQo 4 points ago +4 / -0

Investors can suck an egg... We the people resoundingly say, "Fuck you" to any and all subscription based models that directly impact our livelihoods. We will go around you and never pay you a thin dime. (By the way, fuck you to Autodesk, & Adobe...I'll never buy your crap again!) The idea that you eat before I can work with your shitty software is repugnant. I'm sure others agree.

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chuckachookah 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree with you. I was pointing out whats happening. Blackrock-types are not interested in any thing except money and/or cronyizing everything with the SWAMP

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Stlpoolguy 24 points ago +24 / -0

John Queer actually

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Ghostberserker69 23 points ago +23 / -0

Nothing runs like a queer

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DONT_reply_with_THIS 6 points ago +6 / -0

The good old days.

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SickOfSatanism 19 points ago +19 / -0

Hahahahaha if you think that's bad wait until you learn what state and federal organizations use. Government, contractors, etc.

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Bearing51 19 points ago +19 / -0

Oh I'm very aware. We're still relying on web portals built using IE7 and any additional security breaks the programs. There are many devices who are "secure through obsoletion" that I've seen as well. It's quite pathetic.

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SickOfSatanism 9 points ago +9 / -0

I guarantee you there are still Ti-99s and other 80s computers out there that rely on cassettes still running some automated systems.

There was an airport I read about a while ago that still had one running its timetable board. It was replaced but it was running for decades.

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Bearing51 7 points ago +7 / -0

Fascinating. That also says a lot about our older technology when it was built to work.

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LadyOfLorien 3 points ago +3 / -0

I mean.... if it ain't broke, why replace it?

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SickOfSatanism 2 points ago +2 / -0

Because when it breaks, there sadly aren't replacement parts for it anymore, or very few people that know how to fix it. I only know of the Ti-99 because I had one.

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LadyOfLorien 2 points ago +2 / -0

So replace it when it breaks and let it plug along til then.

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markolbb 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yup. We're still on Windows Server 2003. SMB1. HTTP (not https). Don't even patch our Win7 clients. It's fuckin alarming.

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MawaDeBlanco1 1 point ago +1 / -0

You must work for a small family owned business that hasn't updated from XP-pro and still uses punch cards.

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unfourtunate_son 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nuke weapons ... we are talking 8" floppys

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telan 3 points ago +3 / -0

Simple system, not online...no problems there. As long as the sites are actually monitored and the workers aren't sleeping or letting in delivery people.

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unfourtunate_son 1 point ago +1 / -0

Chips / boards no longer mfg software so old nobody writes it

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20KAG20 2 points ago +2 / -0

The university foundations department I work with couldn’t send me files to a reporting system I built because the files were exported to excel 95 and it wasn’t compatible. It was impressive.

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SickOfSatanism 2 points ago +2 / -0

I recently had to recover a database that for some reason a company was using since before Windows 95.

I had to find an extremely old version of the software that could read it and get it running using DOSbox, then they could export it to a newer file type, then keep updating it from there.

Wasn't excel, it was some super weird software where there must be half a dozen people that still use it. We had to figure it out because someone sent us important data through the mail on a floppy.

Having a dusty old system in a back closet is one thing, but using early 90s/late 80s software and still actively trying to use it in an industry just to make a nightmare for everyone else... Wtf...

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OZ00MSTALLGEESE 5 points ago +5 / -0

lol youd be suprised how many things still run on CE

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MawaDeBlanco1 1 point ago +1 / -0

All GPS navigators do. you can hack them really easy. Garmin, et al. of course there is no wifi capability, but hey, it's something to hack.

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ascension4humanity 3 points ago +3 / -0

Could easily be replaced with open source to add the features that you need. https://www.repair.org/

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FrontTowardLeft 49 points ago +49 / -0

My uncle had a John Deere tractor that was so old he could change the piston rings right in the field, and then keep right on plowing.

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 46 points ago +46 / -0

Most tractors back then could be stripped down to practically nothing, whatever busted part fixed, then put right back to work. Betting you could even weld a cracked chassis right there on the spot if you had to.

Of course, back then tractors were a lot smaller, and the typical family farm was only about 40-80 acres or so of plowing. I remember even back in the late 1980s as a farm kid, most farms still got by just fine with ancient-but-serviceable four-row harvester outfits for corn, and with 8-row harvester rigs being considered big-time investments that you'd spend an unheard-of $50k+ on. Same with soybeans, and hay rakes/cutters (alfalfa/timothy) would cut a then-impressive 12-16' swath, which was fine for most operations. You'd buy these things expecting them to last 30-50 years of general use with regular maintenance.

Nowadays you have rigs that will cost you something akin to a big mortgage ($750k +), and the dealer won't even blink when they tell you that you'll be back in 10 years to replace it. Oh, and you get to pay for software subscriptions, else the thing dies and becomes a giant unusable hunk of metal, rubber, and plastic. That last bit is why a lot of smaller outfits are telling JD, Case, and the like to go fuck themselves, instead buying Kubota, Mahindra, and other not-as-complex brands.

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QuickHands 16 points ago +16 / -0

If you can find the time, please post on here more often, we need your insight around here! There's so much so many of us don't know about farming, food supply, equipment, etc, and you seem to know a ton.

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 12 points ago +12 / -0

I only live on a homestead... compared to a lot of my neighbors, I don't know shit.

Best thing I can think of is to find homesteading groups on places like MeWe or Minds, and hook with the people there. You can learn a lot from 'em... I know I have.

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LadyOfLorien 5 points ago +5 / -0

Didn't Rush use to plug Mahindra?

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 2 points ago +2 / -0

I believe he did.

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MawaDeBlanco1 3 points ago +3 / -0

I still just use a Ford 640 (hundred series) and a 2 bottom plow. Wish it had a Sherman step down but she's still doing the job. I rebuilt the 3pt hydro unit from a vhs tape demo and wooden step gauge for the adjustments. some will know what I am talking about...

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Major_Nutt 3 points ago +3 / -0

My family uses Mahindra utility tractors, non-ag purposes. And those things are fucking tanks. India knows how to build a proper machine.

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MarcusAurelius 39 points ago +39 / -0

Why we also need right to repair for our stuff.

You will own your own tools.

You will be able to fix your stuff yourself.

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VolareVia 3 points ago +3 / -0

And you will own plenty.

And you will not be happy, but satisfied.

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OneBigMaga 35 points ago +35 / -0

When a company tells me I don't have the right to repair the equipment I buy from them, I stop buying equipment from them.

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Cantshadowbanthemall 31 points ago +31 / -0

As a reminder: Fuck John Deere with a cactus

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Joshua55 26 points ago +26 / -0

I knew a farmer in IL who had a barn with about 10 vintage John Deere tractors in perfect condition from the early 1900s to the mid 1950s. He repaired them all and restored them himself.

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20KAG20 3 points ago +3 / -0

I wonder what the CEO of JD back then would think about today.

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AngeredKabar 22 points ago +23 / -1

All these unnecessary computerized systems are an attempt at a subscription based service model.

Airgap is the primary security model for industrial computers, obscurity is the second. Beyond that nothing is patched, everything is wide open. A lot of time they have UART pins out in the open if you take the case apart and you can open a shell with root privilege but this require physical access to the computer and you gotta solder some wires.

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residue69 8 points ago +8 / -0

Pogo pins and a 3D printed clip is my goto for UART pads.

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Electricutie 16 points ago +16 / -0

In response, the company has put out a press release announcing the rebranding to "Joan Deere", a more inclusive and gender-neutral name which better reflects modern society.

On a totally unrelated note, this now means any criticism directed towards Joan Deere is now transphobic and subject to heavy fines from the IRS death squad.

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impera 14 points ago +14 / -0

When the DMCA was being floated, scenarios like this vendor-lockin case were being postulated by all the dissenting voices.. which of course were scoffed at as preposterous, paranoid, something incredibly unlikely to ever happen.

And then of course, it happened after the bill was passed. Crime was always the intent.

Look at this whining - 'farmers cant be trusted!'. What is exactly the doomsday scenario here that is apparently worth throwing out the property rights of farmers, by corporates with no claim to these rights... the existential horror of farmers repairing their own tractor? Their own augurs, their own silos, plows, and harvesters? Why is that so spooky?

If you didn't want them to own the property, then stop selling them the stuff.

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CmonPeopleGetReal 5 points ago +5 / -0

The farmers can't be trusted to keep shelling over 5 figures to John Deere every year for software. HONK HONK

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BillGateCanSuckIt 1 point ago +1 / -0

But they can be trusted to continually buy Roundup ready crops and Monsanto poison.

Bill Gates, the largest shareholder has been poisoning farmers for decades. Interesting that people are upset only about the vax, but Roundup, is completely trustworthy

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CmonPeopleGetReal 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do you know how much Glyphosate gets spread per acre of crop?

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CommieCrats 8 points ago +8 / -0

time to bust out the clysdales and ride the spades together

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Standingoak 3 points ago +3 / -0

Mennonites check in

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AlbertaHandstand -5 points ago +2 / -7

Go back farther....say pre 1860's....

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GrayManNumber333 8 points ago +8 / -0

Doom. It’s always doom.

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sustainable_saltmine 8 points ago +9 / -1

you'd think instead of using hacks on conventional OS they'd be developing something completely proprietary.

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JeremiahKassin 13 points ago +13 / -0

Nah. That costs money. They're only in the business of making money, not spending it.

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TruckFudeau 7 points ago +7 / -0

Excuse me while I go work in my backyard garden for a while....

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n4freedom 6 points ago +6 / -0

Almost all IoT is like this. Get smart devices out of your sphere everywhere you can.

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x79q3pb 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wish I knew this was a problem years ago. I'd have done some jailbreaking for my farmer bros.

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Dieselslacker 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have been thinking about learning how to crack ECM on big trucks. It's a high demand market

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IMadeThisToCorrectU 2 points ago +2 / -0

the biggest issue you are gonna run into making money there is its illegal to modify emissions components, and ECM counts

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LadyOfLorien 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's only illegal if you get caught.

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Dieselslacker 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not so worried about making money, I just want to be able to do it.

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Dieselslacker 4 points ago +4 / -0

I hate how difficult it is to deal with software on various manufacturers. John Deere is particularly aggravating

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K-Harbour 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good thing our voting systems are more secure……

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markolbb 4 points ago +4 / -0

And the whole "Right to Repair" movement goes way beyond just tractors. Its your phone, your car, most places that technology exist have become or will eventually become a right to repair issue.

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DestroyerofCobwebs 4 points ago +4 / -0

Won't be long before John Deere gets with the program and starts using a fully hardened bus with end to end encryption and custom control modules that can only be addressed by a computer with the appropriate encryption key.

Auto manufacturers are already at that point, largely due to the EPA. So far these systems have proven to be uncrackable.

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OKRancher 3 points ago +3 / -0

They wouldn’t sell me one.

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BillGateCanSuckIt 1 point ago +1 / -0

Michael Hastings would beg to differ

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GivingTheBird 4 points ago +4 / -0

Read this here and read this well:

  • "Right to Repair" is an absolute sleeper issue that we must capture before it can become bipartisan or be coopted by the commies.
  • All conservatives should be harping on R2R, as caring for and maintaining your family, property, church, etc., is the kernel of conservatism.
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vfr2imc 2 points ago +2 / -0

The problem with right to repair is that people still want their warranty honored after they completely destroy their own property under a crappy repair.

You can’t have both things.

Think about a company’s position: hey we opened this up to do a warranty repair and we found some Doritos inside. Uhhh did you try to do this yourself, because we’re not doing this under warranty if you beat the shit out of it.

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GivingTheBird 1 point ago +1 / -0

The problem with Right to Repair is the issue is so unexposed and poorly defined that your concern is arguably intractable. That is but one reason why we need to get on it first. Warranties seem like they could use refactoring too. Manufacturer influence and control post-sale needs nerfing or it will be rolled into the subscription model and used to drive home the WEF reality of the average person owning nothing.

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CommieCrats 2 points ago +2 / -0

potato 🥔

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SenorButtplugs 2 points ago +2 / -0

Most under rated song ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNVXg-4LGrw

It saved my life. Srsly.

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gaijin_ronin 2 points ago +2 / -0

I could have told you that. I used to work for IBM a several years ago and POS/ATM/VENDING machines run Win ME some Win 2k, Government machines run various ancient and outdated kernel of different operating systems. Ever seen machines run O/S 2 warp in the wild? Yes...in 2014. Hell I even seen a hospital call center and patient RX refill server running Windows NT 4. I get stability of some systems being better than others but I was amazed when I found all this out during training. We even had to carry around diskette drives with us to use some diagnostic tools and firmware update routines.

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NotAnotherNPC 2 points ago +2 / -0

Where do I sign up to help them hack their fucking tractors?

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MawaDeBlanco1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Windows CE?...you mean GPS Navigon/Garmin native software OS anyone can access? 15 years ago?

Unpatched Linux? WTF?

Who writes this retarded bull shit? and why is it on this site?

Is anybody really that retarded to believe this?

I seriously thought we were smarter than this...SMDH...

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Wupta 2 points ago +2 / -0

I see a golden opportunity for competitors to step in and take mega business away from John Deere.

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JeremiahKassin 2 points ago +2 / -0

YES!

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NotAntifa75 2 points ago +2 / -0

I remember when Microsoft pushed Windows CE for embedded applications, and I said it would not end well.

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mcoulton 1 point ago +1 / -0

DefCon?

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iSignedUpForThis 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is fantastic news.

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CrowTrol 1 point ago +1 / -0

Louis Rossman approves this message!

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YouTubeSucksDicks 1 point ago +1 / -0

But can it run Crysis?

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MagaChamp253 1 point ago +1 / -0

Windows CE was shit when it RELEASED. Why it's even in use in a 'critical' system' now, is beyond me.

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f_bastiat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lmao wait until you see how outdated building automation is. I do commercial HVAC, theres still BAS systems running on DOS, the lighting, HVAC, door locks, etc.

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VolareVia 1 point ago +1 / -0

Day after day I'm becoming convinced that the only thing John Deere makes that isn't shit is rock trucks. And it's the one thing that CAT sucks at making.

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chahn1138 0 points ago +1 / -1

GREAT NEWS!

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DudeNoOne 0 points ago +1 / -1

Hell yeah