Especially when Russia now has a lot of those trillions of military equipment. First we gave shit to the cartels, then to the taliban, now to Russa... All under fucking democrats.
And zionist neocons took us into the wars in the middle east. It was both parties but they led the charge. They paved the way with PNAC all through the late 90s.
we didnt give it away .. it was stolen the moment thst daughter fucker biden stole the election ... next is world war III nukes coming if we keep allowing democrats taking control of our lives
Those regions are full of Russians, and the Azov nazis were abusing Russian people who live in those regions over their heritage. Russia liberated them.
That was part of it. A major part was recognizing those territories as independent nations due to the failure to implement the Minsk accords, which Ukraine negotiated for, and those independent nations asking for assistance and protection from the constant bombardment and slaughter of their civilians by terrorist forces in the Ukrainian military.
That's how Russian propaganda likes to skew reality. In real life Russia has sent FSB and GRU operatives to Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine, ordered them to capture administrative buildings and declare fake republics.
Russia also stockpiled a ton of NATO war implements and soldiers on the Russian border. How they did that, we'll never know. The Wests best guess is, magic.
Wait, wait, wait... you're saying that the Russians invaded and defeated Ukraine, and DIDN'T take the territory, but instead SUED FOR PEACE and kept Ukraine whole as long as Ukraine agreed to treat the people as equal citizens and stop oppressing them?
Gee, kinda sounds like your entire premise about Russia just looking to gobble territory is complete BS, doesn't it?
Your shekels aren't going to be deposited on this one, you miserable curr of a shill.
The goal of these Minsk agreements was to legalise Russian-controlled warlords and infiltrate them into parliament of Ukraine so they can block any efforts to join NATO. When this plan did not work out, Putin decided to start full blown invasion.
Men can agree with other men based on rational principles.
Like Putin's transitioning Russia away from communism and to the largest Christian resurgence in world history, 13% flat tax, pro-business and pro-family policies, banning faggot grooming of children, sound money, defeating Islamic terrorism (funded by the west), reducing corruption and alcoholism, and standing up to GloboHomo.
What principles do you support Ukraine for? Lenin and Khrushchev's theft of Russian land? Breaking promises on Crimea Republic autonomy (1995)? Banning democratic secession referendums? Using nazi-wannabe thugs and bombing freedom-fighters? Being the child prostitution mecca of Europe? A stagnant communist economy? Worst corruption in Europe? Blowing up nuclear power plants? Banning people from speaking their native language? Being in bed with Biden, Kerry, Romney, and other US Swamp crime families? Stealing US tax dollars?
You are indeed a GloboHomo communist shill who just likes the taste of BidenZelensky's dick.
Obviously you live in a homeless camp because your mental illness prevents you from holding the sort of job that would enable you to afford an apartment or a room. So you strut around amongst the stumblebums and other crazies muttering to yourself about the paradise that is Russia and how the world is trying to deny it the glory it is due.
This is your theme. It dominates your posting here and your life in the homeless camp. That is the very definition of an obsessed shill. That you somehow believe that perceived wrongs from Lenin's day are justification for the invasion of a sovereign nation today. They are not, by any rational metric. And everyone can see quite plainly that Putin (butthurt after the embarrassing collapse of the USSR) seeks to recreate the the old Soviet Union by conquering client states and installing puppet governments so that they serve as a buffer to the West. Putin is obsessed with Ukraine.
There are medications that can help you. And even though you describe yourself as the "world's greatest" tax protester, (which is shorthand for 'freeloader') there still are free mental health services in NJ for the indigent and bums like you. You should seek those out before you have a complete break with reality and are involuntarily committed.
I don't need anyone to agree with me, shit stain. Particularly when most people already agree that you one of the more effeminate homosexuals on this board. Right, sweetboy?
Wow imagine that. Sovereignty and countries/regions voting their own destiny, rather than being ruled by a NATO, UN, or EU globohomo unelected organizations.
They don't care about the dangers of nuclear war because they assume they'll be safe in their bunkers until the radiation levels drop to crawl out and take over again.
Can you even imagine living in an area where there is a constant ethnic battle that has been going on for decades fed by the CIA and corrupt governments.. The USA did this in several other areas like Bosnia and the people suffered far more then was needed to resolve the local pissing ground fights..
The phoney referendums are neither here not there to NATO. Nobody (on Team NATO) acknowledges the referendums, or the result, or the Russian proclamation that those parts of Ukraine are now sovereign Russian territory.
These regions effectively now have the same status as Crimea (Russia says it’s part of Russia; NATO doesn’t acknowledge the claim), and Team NATO hasn’t been too worried about Ukraine using its munitions there, so I don’t see that it will consider these ‘new Crimeas’ as any more off-limits.
If we are to be taken seriously about election fraud, people here need to stop pretending that a vote with 98% approval during a conflict with people fleeing and the area being under enemy occupation is legitimate. You are making us look like crazy assholes.
It's amazing how far down you have to scroll to find a reasonable comment. This site suffers from serious Ukraine Derangement Syndrome. They point at the anomalies in our election, but have no doubt about the 96% result there. Fucking idiots.
It’s cognitive dissonance. If they acknowledge the fraud, they have to acknowledge that maybe Putin isn’t the good guy they have been led to believe he is.
Hard to call it an invasion if it was a democratic exodus. The whole thing is like if Europe granted Florida independence, when neither the US nor a large plurality of North Florida wanted that independence.
Not much of a dilemma, all of NATO is ready to fold already and it's not even winter yet. No one is gonna vote to send our troops there alone a month before midterms.
So yeah I am pretty sure I know what is going to happen. Media and politicians complaining.
There's no problem; peasant votes don't mean anything in "our democracy". The "our" means a handful of globalist oligarchs and celebrities, not the peasants.
In fact, I've only been subjected to about 30 seconds of MSNBC in the past month or two. During that random 30 seconds, they delegitimized the votes and stated the obvious opinion to viewers as fact without providing substantiation. I can only deduce there were no global oligarch "ours" polled, rendering the peasant votes illegitimate in "our democracy".
One of the proposals I heard was Snake Island as a “warning shot.” I don’t think they’ll do it near the border by Kharkiv, as it’s too close to Belgorod. Regardless, the fact that Russia is entertaining the idea of using nukes suggests the war hasn’t gone how they planned
It’d be far less controversial to have Ukraine cede those territories via peace treaty than for Russia to stage a referendum and then annex the territories.
Im starting to think a nuke or two would actually go a long way towards cleaning up the region. Japan rebuilt, nobody is running around with a 3rd eye or extra heads from the radiation. Maybe the middle east, Ukraine, Turkey, and the rest in that area could use a makeover.
Hahahaha.... everyone know Russia's overarching strategy is to drown the enemy in the blood of Russian conscripts. This war is no different. Those most recent conscripts are dead men walking. Why don't you just move back to Russia, loser? With your contempt for Ukrainians, they could definitely hook you up with a sweet gig in the military.
This election had more bullshit than 2020, but because the news says Putin is a bad dude, half this board starts fighting over the first to lick his boot.
I guess people here are willing to accept fake elections so long as they like the results of the fake election. Sounds like another group of people I know..
Thank you. When has a 96% result ever been a fair election. Bullshit. People here should know better than to believe a KGB dictator would run a fair election in a war zone.
If your state was arbitrarily assigned to be a part of Mexico (except Mexico was a lot more hostile and corrupt), wouldn't 96% vote to return to the US?
This board is full of Russian agents promoting Putin's propaganda. Honestly, it is remarkable how so many people bite. All they have to do is sprinkle in some Biden/WEF/Globohomo intrigue and everyone forgets that Russia is an invader and that Ukrainian patriots are defending their soil with their own blood. I cannot think of a more MAGA thing to do. And every swinging dick on this site would do the exact same thing were the US to be invaded. I cannot imagine anyone here tolerating foreign troops on our soil, nor appeasing them with a phony annexation vote.
Exactly right. Libman is a classic example of either a Russian agent or a useful idiot. He posts Russian propaganda non-stop and it's hard to tell if his rude arrogance or his abject ignorance is more off-putting.
He is a Russian citizen too. He prattles on about how great Russia is- yet he lives in a tent in a homeless encampment in New Jersey, rather than back in Russia. It seems to me he know exactly what kind of repressive, undemocratic, authoritarian, shithole Russia truly is.
Both are anti-communist nationalist patriots fighting the GloboHomo.
How would Trump supporters feel if the American Union gave all US South to Mexico, everyone there was made 70% poorer, everyone was forced to speak Spanish (schools, government offices, etc), calls for secession referendums to rejoin US were crushed by force, MS-13 gangs would beat you up for not being Mexican enough, and Mexico made a deal to put Chinese nukes there pointed at the rest of US?
Oh please! An armed Russian soldier comes by some farmers house and tells the peasants he wants them to vote on whether to give their land to Russia- you think that doesn't have a coercive effect on the result? That's a fucking joke.
It's been Russian land longer than USA was a country. (It was conquered by Catherine The Great from the Turks and settled by Russians.)
Ukraine is a prison invented by Russia-hating Bolsheviks.
Russia is A LOT richer and less corrupt than Ukraine. The standard of living in Ukraine is about 1/4th of Russia. Ukraine did nothing to move away from communism except change the street names. It's the child prostitution capital of Europe. Everyone with a brain wants to leave it.
Anyone with a brain wants to leave it? What do you think of the 300,000 educated, affluent Russians who left between February and the week before Putin's mobilization? How about the 200,000 that have fled the country since Putin's mobilization? The 1500 millionaires who have left so far? The 1000 Western companies that have decamped Russia? Today there are miles-long lines of cars at the border full of people desperate to escape from Russia. Spare me your lies. Russia is a shithole. You should know that, because you fled Russia yourself.
You are a paid GloboHomo commie shill, and should be banned from this site.
No person could genuinely think that Putin, with his 13% flat tax and 22 years of pro-market reforms, is same as the USSR. Russians have access to Western media and the Internet. Russians are free to leave the country.
Russia had good relations with all its neighbors that don't have nazi-wannabe street gangs attack Russian speakers and aren't trying to get nukes pointed at Russia.
Western commies outright stole the assets of Russian citizens. Fleeing the country is how they get it back.
You are also twisting facts about my personal life. I am a very successful software developer, early dot-com entrepreneur, and a Bitcoin pioneer.
I didn't flee Russia; my parents fled communism. Russia has been moving away from communism. USA has been sliding in the opposite direction.
Imagine thinking those referrendums were not only legal, but fairly carried out in the middle of a war zone where most of the population was evacuated... You'd have to be POWERFULLY retarded to not be concerned with that... like, Joe Biden voter stupid.
Idiots on this site expect others to believe us about voter fraud here, but they all buy the 96% election result in a war zone administered by a KGB dictator. Getting sick of the stupidity here on this issue.
Right there with ya bro. These dumb faggots got owned by the Russian (communist) psy op and they can't let it go. That sunk cost... People like that, who get duped and just keep doubling down, are weak-minded fools. They aren't real MAGA.
I just didn't expect to see so much of it on here. I used to think we were better at sifting through propaganda. People here are falling for the Russian propaganda on Ukraine hook line and sinker.
Yup, the psy op successfully locked in on the whole "traditionalist Christian" mindset of conservatives and exploited the shit out of it. It also made the conflict black and white, where Ukraine was Nazi globohomos to a man and Russia was pure conservative Christians. Totally absurd. The control of information and spread of bullshit lies is intense, too. These dumb faggots STILL think Russia is winning and any evidence to the contrary is either fake or all part of the plan. It's just like the Qtards who thought Trump would stage a coup any day now and return to the White House.
I think it has more to do with the fact that the MSM is supporting Ukraine so strongly as the Current Thing so everyone here instinctively reacts against it. But being against something just because the MSM is for it isn't necessarily a logical way to think. The MSM may be for it for its own agenda reasons, but that doesn't mean that we should always be against everything they support, even for the wrong reasons. You don't sacrifice truth and what's right just because of what your enemies are supporting for whatever reason.
Yeah, the left and media current thing'd Ukraine pretty hard. It is definitely hard to be technically on the same side of that sort of bullshit. But now you have far leftists like Chomsky saying Ukraine should give up their territory to end the war because muh war is bad. So now the far left is technically on the side of the dumbasses supporting Russia! What a twist.
Personally I used to be sympathetic to Russia, a bit. But this war reveals what a complete shit-house they are and how retarded Putin is.
Yes, exactly right. Nice that there is are at least a few reasonable voices on this issue left on here. It has been driving me crazy how nuts everyone on here went on this issue.
Secession has been MASSIVELY popular in Crimea for 30+ years.
Donbas and other regions of Novorossiya were conflicted, but secession became more and more popular as Ukrainian promises fell flat. Russia had massive pro-capitalist reforms under Putin and massive economic growth, while Ukraine remained a stagnant corrupt shithole...
First of all, you wouldn't be calling me "товарищ".
I know Russians that live in Ukraine.
They were once fooled into hating Russia, and that siding with the West is their road to riches. No one believes that anymore. The EU is shrinking, not growing. NATO countries are moving away from capitalism. Eurasia is the future.
You are truly delusional. But there are medications that can help you. Maybe get out of that homeless camp and into the mainstream for some treatment. Perhaps you should go back to Russia? I'm sure they could fix you up with a job in their Army and you could live in a tent AND get paid for it.
It's almost like we gave away $100 billion plus a trillion tons of military equipment for nothing. Weird.
No refunds.
Especially when Russia now has a lot of those trillions of military equipment. First we gave shit to the cartels, then to the taliban, now to Russa... All under fucking democrats.
In all fairness Republicans took our money to build the equipment.
They pocketed a lot of that money too.
And zionist neocons took us into the wars in the middle east. It was both parties but they led the charge. They paved the way with PNAC all through the late 90s.
Should duck tape Mitch McConnell and Graham, put them in a box and ship to Russia
But in all fairness.... it was intended for OUR use or at a minimum deterrence.
someone's got to build it
It could be worse, we could give away our petroleum reserves to the Chinese.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Why-Is-The-US-Sending-Its-Emergency-Oil-Reserves-To-China.html
Oh it is worse.... if it's something that shits on Americans.. expect it.
It's not just Russia getting those weapons:
https://www.voanews.com/a/cargo-plane-crashes-in-greece-explosions-keep-firefighters-away-/6662040.html
A plane from Ukraine crashed in Greece headed to Bangladesh loaded with 11 tons of munitions.
Glad you pointed that out. I specified Russia because:
"Russia bad" - Every libtard and warmonger out there
No refuns from joggers
adidas has entered the chat
Well can we at least get a Poseidon to cleanse DC?
What if I have a receipt
Don’t make me tap the sign
https://www.digitalmomblog.com/no-regrets-memes/
“No regrets”
we didnt give it away .. it was stolen the moment thst daughter fucker biden stole the election ... next is world war III nukes coming if we keep allowing democrats taking control of our lives
Not for nothing. The Biden’s are much richer now!
10% for the big guy.
i don't know why this myth is still going the rounds! Giuliani told us it was actually 50%!
These regions have been bombed by 'muh keev" since 2014. Donbass, crimea, ect have always wanted to go back to Russia.
These regions were what this "war" was all about anyway.
For 8 years Ukraine has been oppressing these people, now Russia can protect them. War is Over. YAY!
Those regions are full of Russians, and the Azov nazis were abusing Russian people who live in those regions over their heritage. Russia liberated them.
if by "abusing" we mean sniping them on the way to school, then yeah.
But on 24 February Putin announced "denazification" of the whole Ukraine
That was part of it. A major part was recognizing those territories as independent nations due to the failure to implement the Minsk accords, which Ukraine negotiated for, and those independent nations asking for assistance and protection from the constant bombardment and slaughter of their civilians by terrorist forces in the Ukrainian military.
That's how Russian propaganda likes to skew reality. In real life Russia has sent FSB and GRU operatives to Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Ukraine, ordered them to capture administrative buildings and declare fake republics.
So the Minsk accords were faked by the Russians, then? Ukraine didn't agree to them, sign them, and fail to implement them?
And every nation in the U.N. went along with it, including us? We helped the Russians fake the Minsk accords?
Russia also stockpiled a ton of NATO war implements and soldiers on the Russian border. How they did that, we'll never know. The Wests best guess is, magic.
Minsk accords were forced on Ukraine by military power, after limited invasion of Russian regular forces and defeating Ukraine military near Ilovaisk.
Wait, wait, wait... you're saying that the Russians invaded and defeated Ukraine, and DIDN'T take the territory, but instead SUED FOR PEACE and kept Ukraine whole as long as Ukraine agreed to treat the people as equal citizens and stop oppressing them?
Gee, kinda sounds like your entire premise about Russia just looking to gobble territory is complete BS, doesn't it?
Your shekels aren't going to be deposited on this one, you miserable curr of a shill.
Notice also that of all of the shills on this board right now, almost all of them, except for Anaconda and his alts, are pro-Ukraine shills.
It was years ago and Russia denied involvement back then, claiming it were "local coal miners and tractor drivers"
The goal of these Minsk agreements was to legalise Russian-controlled warlords and infiltrate them into parliament of Ukraine so they can block any efforts to join NATO. When this plan did not work out, Putin decided to start full blown invasion.
No
Yes
George Washington had outside help too.
(France, the Netherlands, Spain, and Russia sided with US over Britain.)
Does that make the US Revolution illegitimate?!
Go back to reddit, communist scum.
And all those Nazis fled to Western Europe hiding as refugees.
Another success!
like 700 000 of Russian men who fled last few days
Zelensky's cock tastes that good does it, globohomo?
You haven't seen the video of the Russian soldiers droned by blowing each other, I assume?
I don't watch gay porn, so no. You on the other hand, just outed yourself... go back to Reddit.
Edit: LMFAO! Little faggot with the rage downvote after he outed himself!
There's two less gays in the world thanks to Ukraine, and NATO weapons!
Probably better than Putin's shit-smeared asshole where your tongue resides.
Men can agree with other men based on rational principles.
Like Putin's transitioning Russia away from communism and to the largest Christian resurgence in world history, 13% flat tax, pro-business and pro-family policies, banning faggot grooming of children, sound money, defeating Islamic terrorism (funded by the west), reducing corruption and alcoholism, and standing up to GloboHomo.
What principles do you support Ukraine for? Lenin and Khrushchev's theft of Russian land? Breaking promises on Crimea Republic autonomy (1995)? Banning democratic secession referendums? Using nazi-wannabe thugs and bombing freedom-fighters? Being the child prostitution mecca of Europe? A stagnant communist economy? Worst corruption in Europe? Blowing up nuclear power plants? Banning people from speaking their native language? Being in bed with Biden, Kerry, Romney, and other US Swamp crime families? Stealing US tax dollars?
You are indeed a GloboHomo communist shill who just likes the taste of BidenZelensky's dick.
Obviously you live in a homeless camp because your mental illness prevents you from holding the sort of job that would enable you to afford an apartment or a room. So you strut around amongst the stumblebums and other crazies muttering to yourself about the paradise that is Russia and how the world is trying to deny it the glory it is due.
This is your theme. It dominates your posting here and your life in the homeless camp. That is the very definition of an obsessed shill. That you somehow believe that perceived wrongs from Lenin's day are justification for the invasion of a sovereign nation today. They are not, by any rational metric. And everyone can see quite plainly that Putin (butthurt after the embarrassing collapse of the USSR) seeks to recreate the the old Soviet Union by conquering client states and installing puppet governments so that they serve as a buffer to the West. Putin is obsessed with Ukraine.
There are medications that can help you. And even though you describe yourself as the "world's greatest" tax protester, (which is shorthand for 'freeloader') there still are free mental health services in NJ for the indigent and bums like you. You should seek those out before you have a complete break with reality and are involuntarily committed.
Made another account just to make it seems like someone agrees with you huh?
Go back to Reddit, faggot.
I don't need anyone to agree with me, shit stain. Particularly when most people already agree that you one of the more effeminate homosexuals on this board. Right, sweetboy?
Made up numbers.
And those who fled are not men.
You are also not eager to die for mother Russia as I can see.
I hate all governments, retard.
He was registering his contempt for the joggers of Ukraine.
It’s a long way from over.
It's okay to know peace
This is now very likely to go way past these regions in the long run. If Russia's 5th column doesn't succeed in sabotaging the nation.
Wow imagine that. Sovereignty and countries/regions voting their own destiny, rather than being ruled by a NATO, UN, or EU globohomo unelected organizations.
Remember when Chechen people voted their own destiny out from Russia, Russia brutally bombed & killed them, but somehow it's not ok for Ukraine.
So? Now Chechens are volunteering for the mobilization in far greater numbers than required.
Aren’t the majority of Chechens Islamists?
Questioning election integrity is forbidden!
NATO is as useless as used toilet paper 🧻
Turn it over -- use both sides
Did they never ask, for what am I chosen?
Lol 😂
Because they naturally give off a specific odor or because they prefer to wear a specific scent?
Criminal cartel aka NATO created this disaster. Purposely. Sick death cultists.
They don't care about the dangers of nuclear war because they assume they'll be safe in their bunkers until the radiation levels drop to crawl out and take over again.
Can you even imagine living in an area where there is a constant ethnic battle that has been going on for decades fed by the CIA and corrupt governments.. The USA did this in several other areas like Bosnia and the people suffered far more then was needed to resolve the local pissing ground fights..
Why yes, yes I can
And now they're doing it here.
Really good discussion of Serbia/Kosovo and Western intervention and media manipulation on The Duran today. https://rumble.com/v1mkkmc-russia-serbia-and-the-weight-of-chains-wboris-malagurski-live.html
Bob Saget!
Fuck Salt!
Don’t talk shit about Total!
That reminds me of an old friend from Russian boarding school who would yell that shit in the hallways and get written up. Good times.
If you shell your countrymen, they might secede.
And now they’ll rush out to declare that Biden just ended WWIII and saved the planet
Guess who is getting natural gas this winter?
The phoney referendums are neither here not there to NATO. Nobody (on Team NATO) acknowledges the referendums, or the result, or the Russian proclamation that those parts of Ukraine are now sovereign Russian territory.
These regions effectively now have the same status as Crimea (Russia says it’s part of Russia; NATO doesn’t acknowledge the claim), and Team NATO hasn’t been too worried about Ukraine using its munitions there, so I don’t see that it will consider these ‘new Crimeas’ as any more off-limits.
That's what King George said.
If we are to be taken seriously about election fraud, people here need to stop pretending that a vote with 98% approval during a conflict with people fleeing and the area being under enemy occupation is legitimate. You are making us look like crazy assholes.
It's amazing how far down you have to scroll to find a reasonable comment. This site suffers from serious Ukraine Derangement Syndrome. They point at the anomalies in our election, but have no doubt about the 96% result there. Fucking idiots.
It’s cognitive dissonance. If they acknowledge the fraud, they have to acknowledge that maybe Putin isn’t the good guy they have been led to believe he is.
Yes, but if they use that thinking for their own purposes, they can't blame Dems for using that same thinking to defend the 81 million votes bullshit.
I don't know man, those votes stink more than arizona, or those chechnya counties.
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Hard to call it an invasion if it was a democratic exodus. The whole thing is like if Europe granted Florida independence, when neither the US nor a large plurality of North Florida wanted that independence.
Money laundering op over. Nothing to see here. Move on.
Not much of a dilemma, all of NATO is ready to fold already and it's not even winter yet. No one is gonna vote to send our troops there alone a month before midterms.
So yeah I am pretty sure I know what is going to happen. Media and politicians complaining.
There's no problem; peasant votes don't mean anything in "our democracy". The "our" means a handful of globalist oligarchs and celebrities, not the peasants.
In fact, I've only been subjected to about 30 seconds of MSNBC in the past month or two. During that random 30 seconds, they delegitimized the votes and stated the obvious opinion to viewers as fact without providing substantiation. I can only deduce there were no global oligarch "ours" polled, rendering the peasant votes illegitimate in "our democracy".
I also vote to join Russia
We can do better with Rexit.
https://patriots.win/search?params=REXIT
" to the extent that some of its members, having stripped their respective military structures of equipment and material, have nothing left to give. "
This has me most worried.
"vote"
Wednesday they get signed
One of the proposals I heard was Snake Island as a “warning shot.” I don’t think they’ll do it near the border by Kharkiv, as it’s too close to Belgorod. Regardless, the fact that Russia is entertaining the idea of using nukes suggests the war hasn’t gone how they planned
I don't think even Russia saw the Satan-controlled United States sending billions upon billions of printed money and weaponry to that shithole.
Never underestimate the MICs ability to waste taxpayer money
Or, the Big Guy's desire for his 10%.
It’d be far less controversial to have Ukraine cede those territories via peace treaty than for Russia to stage a referendum and then annex the territories.
They aren't going to explode nukes, Anaconda, you tard. They'll win it without those, because they very much to not want a nuclear war.
That tells me all I need to know. There is no need to stoop to the level of reiterating Russian propaganda
This site is full of Russian propaganda when it comes to Ukraine. It's shameful.
aka facts.
Im starting to think a nuke or two would actually go a long way towards cleaning up the region. Japan rebuilt, nobody is running around with a 3rd eye or extra heads from the radiation. Maybe the middle east, Ukraine, Turkey, and the rest in that area could use a makeover.
Lawl. Russia can't even defeat a third world country.
Ukraine was 100% defeated within a few days.
Russia is fighting the GloboHomo war machine, whose military budget is 17 times higher.
https://armedforces.eu/compare/country_NATO_vs_Russia
Russia still outnumbers them 10:1. This is embarrassing no matter what way you spin it
Retard thinks Russia's entire army is in Ukraine lmao
When did I say that?
200,000 Russian soldiers outnumber 50,000,000 Ukrainians and a billion other NATO member state population 10:1...
🤯
Lol what are you even talking about?
Ukraine has Western weapons. But make no mistake about it, it is Ukrainian blood being spilled.
Because Ukrainian cannon fodder is cheaper than trained monkeys.
Hahahaha.... everyone know Russia's overarching strategy is to drown the enemy in the blood of Russian conscripts. This war is no different. Those most recent conscripts are dead men walking. Why don't you just move back to Russia, loser? With your contempt for Ukrainians, they could definitely hook you up with a sweet gig in the military.
New sockpuppet account?
Do you even know what's happening over there?
tbf, neither can we.
Russia is desperate for these votes to be taken seriously. No one gives a shit and it’s moronic. Ukraines offensive will continue.
No, Ukraine took Lyman before the ink was dry on the paperwork
They voted at gunpoint. That is a sham. Not an election.
This election had more bullshit than 2020, but because the news says Putin is a bad dude, half this board starts fighting over the first to lick his boot.
I guess people here are willing to accept fake elections so long as they like the results of the fake election. Sounds like another group of people I know..
Exactly right. It's shameful.
Thank you. When has a 96% result ever been a fair election. Bullshit. People here should know better than to believe a KGB dictator would run a fair election in a war zone.
If your state was arbitrarily assigned to be a part of Mexico (except Mexico was a lot more hostile and corrupt), wouldn't 96% vote to return to the US?
No. You would always have more than 4% voting the other way no matter what. Especially on a controversial issue like that.
Very few people would choose a country with 1/3rd the GDP/capita that lied and oppressed them.
Maybe a few more percent were against, but realized it was hopeless and stayed home - or refugeed to the West.
That does not make the results illegitimate.
The vast majority is not in doubt.
The referenda in regions like Odessa will be.a lot more interesting.
This board is full of Russian agents promoting Putin's propaganda. Honestly, it is remarkable how so many people bite. All they have to do is sprinkle in some Biden/WEF/Globohomo intrigue and everyone forgets that Russia is an invader and that Ukrainian patriots are defending their soil with their own blood. I cannot think of a more MAGA thing to do. And every swinging dick on this site would do the exact same thing were the US to be invaded. I cannot imagine anyone here tolerating foreign troops on our soil, nor appeasing them with a phony annexation vote.
Exactly right. Libman is a classic example of either a Russian agent or a useful idiot. He posts Russian propaganda non-stop and it's hard to tell if his rude arrogance or his abject ignorance is more off-putting.
He is a Russian citizen too. He prattles on about how great Russia is- yet he lives in a tent in a homeless encampment in New Jersey, rather than back in Russia. It seems to me he know exactly what kind of repressive, undemocratic, authoritarian, shithole Russia truly is.
Is he Russian? He seems too ignorant of the region to be Russian, but maybe he is. He's certainly enough of a shill to be one.
Interesting. He really is one of the more annoying pro-Putin shills to interact with on here. Really arrogant and dumb.
Deport this communist troll.
What have I been """ ignorant """ of?
I am 50 IQ points and 50 book cases ahead of all of you.
I'm not even anonymous. Everything I say is easy to verify.
You are a pathological liar.
I haven't been a Russian citizen since 1999.
Supporting a homeless charity (in 2013-2015) is a great sin to these Christians... 🤐
I think they're here from Gab. Those idiots will do anything if you tell them it hurts Israel.
Trump supporters are Putin supporters, retard.
Both are anti-communist nationalist patriots fighting the GloboHomo.
How would Trump supporters feel if the American Union gave all US South to Mexico, everyone there was made 70% poorer, everyone was forced to speak Spanish (schools, government offices, etc), calls for secession referendums to rejoin US were crushed by force, MS-13 gangs would beat you up for not being Mexican enough, and Mexico made a deal to put Chinese nukes there pointed at the rest of US?
You cannot fake this level of support.
Oh please! An armed Russian soldier comes by some farmers house and tells the peasants he wants them to vote on whether to give their land to Russia- you think that doesn't have a coercive effect on the result? That's a fucking joke.
It's been Russian land longer than USA was a country. (It was conquered by Catherine The Great from the Turks and settled by Russians.)
Ukraine is a prison invented by Russia-hating Bolsheviks.
Russia is A LOT richer and less corrupt than Ukraine. The standard of living in Ukraine is about 1/4th of Russia. Ukraine did nothing to move away from communism except change the street names. It's the child prostitution capital of Europe. Everyone with a brain wants to leave it.
Anyone with a brain wants to leave it? What do you think of the 300,000 educated, affluent Russians who left between February and the week before Putin's mobilization? How about the 200,000 that have fled the country since Putin's mobilization? The 1500 millionaires who have left so far? The 1000 Western companies that have decamped Russia? Today there are miles-long lines of cars at the border full of people desperate to escape from Russia. Spare me your lies. Russia is a shithole. You should know that, because you fled Russia yourself.
You are a paid GloboHomo commie shill, and should be banned from this site.
No person could genuinely think that Putin, with his 13% flat tax and 22 years of pro-market reforms, is same as the USSR. Russians have access to Western media and the Internet. Russians are free to leave the country.
Russia had good relations with all its neighbors that don't have nazi-wannabe street gangs attack Russian speakers and aren't trying to get nukes pointed at Russia.
Western commies outright stole the assets of Russian citizens. Fleeing the country is how they get it back.
You are also twisting facts about my personal life. I am a very successful software developer, early dot-com entrepreneur, and a Bitcoin pioneer.
I didn't flee Russia; my parents fled communism. Russia has been moving away from communism. USA has been sliding in the opposite direction.
You know nothing about Crimea and NovoRossiya.
They are as Ukrainian as Virginia is Mexican.
Imagine thinking those referrendums were not only legal, but fairly carried out in the middle of a war zone where most of the population was evacuated... You'd have to be POWERFULLY retarded to not be concerned with that... like, Joe Biden voter stupid.
Ukraine had 30 years to hold those referendums.
Idiots on this site expect others to believe us about voter fraud here, but they all buy the 96% election result in a war zone administered by a KGB dictator. Getting sick of the stupidity here on this issue.
Right there with ya bro. These dumb faggots got owned by the Russian (communist) psy op and they can't let it go. That sunk cost... People like that, who get duped and just keep doubling down, are weak-minded fools. They aren't real MAGA.
I just didn't expect to see so much of it on here. I used to think we were better at sifting through propaganda. People here are falling for the Russian propaganda on Ukraine hook line and sinker.
Yup, the psy op successfully locked in on the whole "traditionalist Christian" mindset of conservatives and exploited the shit out of it. It also made the conflict black and white, where Ukraine was Nazi globohomos to a man and Russia was pure conservative Christians. Totally absurd. The control of information and spread of bullshit lies is intense, too. These dumb faggots STILL think Russia is winning and any evidence to the contrary is either fake or all part of the plan. It's just like the Qtards who thought Trump would stage a coup any day now and return to the White House.
I think it has more to do with the fact that the MSM is supporting Ukraine so strongly as the Current Thing so everyone here instinctively reacts against it. But being against something just because the MSM is for it isn't necessarily a logical way to think. The MSM may be for it for its own agenda reasons, but that doesn't mean that we should always be against everything they support, even for the wrong reasons. You don't sacrifice truth and what's right just because of what your enemies are supporting for whatever reason.
Yeah, the left and media current thing'd Ukraine pretty hard. It is definitely hard to be technically on the same side of that sort of bullshit. But now you have far leftists like Chomsky saying Ukraine should give up their territory to end the war because muh war is bad. So now the far left is technically on the side of the dumbasses supporting Russia! What a twist.
Personally I used to be sympathetic to Russia, a bit. But this war reveals what a complete shit-house they are and how retarded Putin is.
Yes, exactly right. Nice that there is are at least a few reasonable voices on this issue left on here. It has been driving me crazy how nuts everyone on here went on this issue.
The facts about Russia speak for themselves.
No one ever said it was black and white.
But the Ukrainian government is very well documented in its use of nazi-wannabe street gangs to oppress "disloyal" Russians in Crimea and Donbas.
And Ukraine is indeed a puppet state of the GloboHomo (NATO).
What "control of information"?
It's the American right-libertarians like Ron Paul and myself that are the biggest debunkers of Bidenland (Ukrainian) lies.
You lose every debate. No exceptions yet.
Russia is winning and there is no evidence to the contrary.
It just prefers to win slowly and more cheaply.
This is an economic war.
Qtards are a Democrat invention to make us all look bad.
No one can honestly support Trump and Bidenland / GloboHomo at the same time.
You are paid communist shills.
Russia is ANTI-communist, retard.
Sucking your own sockpuppet's dick?
These were fake votes with predefined results.
Clearly you've never been there.
Secession has been MASSIVELY popular in Crimea for 30+ years.
Donbas and other regions of Novorossiya were conflicted, but secession became more and more popular as Ukrainian promises fell flat. Russia had massive pro-capitalist reforms under Putin and massive economic growth, while Ukraine remained a stagnant corrupt shithole...
Почему вы так уверены, товарищ Либман.
First of all, you wouldn't be calling me "товарищ".
I know Russians that live in Ukraine.
They were once fooled into hating Russia, and that siding with the West is their road to riches. No one believes that anymore. The EU is shrinking, not growing. NATO countries are moving away from capitalism. Eurasia is the future.
You are truly delusional. But there are medications that can help you. Maybe get out of that homeless camp and into the mainstream for some treatment. Perhaps you should go back to Russia? I'm sure they could fix you up with a job in their Army and you could live in a tent AND get paid for it.
Ethnic Russians won the 2012 Ukraine election. There are a lot of them.
Sad that a sane comment is downvoted this far. This site suffers from serious Ukraine Derangement Syndrome.
Everybody on planet Earth knows this.