We need a national contest to create a perfect voting system ..3 months of entries and 3 months of scrutinizing the finalists, big cash prize and faith restored in voting
.just the idea that our military has to oversee the elections with cyber security teams means we are waaaaay out in the weeds
It's the national guard, not "the military" but the feds have sunk their claws into the guard so deep that the two are virtually indistinguishable now anyway.
Just like everything the central authoritarians in federal government have brought under their influence.
The nat guard is so compromised that it is time for states to begin authorizing regular militias.
Yes and it needs to be fixed immediately. And every other topic we have talked about since 2020 has been a complete waste of fucking time and if we don't get to it immediately after they steal these fucking midterms we won't be able to get Trump in either. They will fucking give it to Hillary Clinton
Give a $1 bill with every mail-in and absentee ballot... those have a unique serial number... ballot harvesters would be tempted to steal the ballots, or open them up to remove the dollar, throwing ballot harvesters off their game
None of those ballots can count if there's no dollar
all ballots to be placed in clear bins and counted AT EACH INDIVIDUAL POLLING PLACE in full view of witnesses and in front of Internet cameras that are accessible to everyone.
Like France Canada and so many others do. You show up, show ID, you put an X on a piece of paper, you tear off the serial number and put it in one box, drop your ballot in the sealed box next to it without anybody else touching it. And you leave.
Results are in 15 minutes after the polls closed...
It's mind-boggling that the left peddle the bullshit that it takes an extra week to count votes with computers than it does by hand.
You mean like the chicken farm in Arizona that burned to the ground because it was stuffed with counterfeit paper ballots controlled by that one Dem donor that Greg Phillips from True the Vote said he could use to track the fraud? Those paper ballots?
Blockchain is the only way forward. Fortunately, Trump's man Peter Theil has the patent.
This. So many blockchain advocates push for it but fail to understand how easy it is to change and corrupt the actual blockchain. We implemented blockchain at our company as a POC and several of us were able to alter the blockchain within hours.
It’s scary because there will be totalitarian control wher Anyone who questions the Blockchain security will immediately be called a conspiracy theorist and election denier because “science “.
There are many different implementations of blockchain. It makes no sense to generalize in this way. The people making POCs at your company are just idiots. No one at your company can manipulate the bitcoin blockchain for example. It is concensus driven across millions of nodes and vast amounts of compute
I have limited knowledge in the space, but you're describing mining for "proof of work" style crypto-currencies, not transacting with that currency. For the obvious analogy, you don't need to head into the Earth, pull out tons of ore, refine it, and cast it onto bars every time you want to use gold to buy something. That's just how gold enters the market. Once it's in the market, it's very easy to just exchange it for goods. I think that takes place on the currency's blockchain ledger, and is requires very little energy compared with mining.
There are ways to hack/manipulate voting machines which don't have a connection. There was (may still be) a method on some voting machines where an attacker could enter the voting booth and switch all votes the machine tallied or will tally by leveraging physical access to it.. and do so in the average time it would take someone to vote.
No? wtf do you think 'cyber' means? What exactly are these national guard guys going to do, and if it's acceptable to employ national guard troops to secure the elections, why aren't they being stationed inside the precincts that have thrown out observers, papered over windows and delayed counting to cheat in the middle of the night?
I said they aren't - and that's based on me watching live on tv in 2016, 2018 and 2020 that uniformed cops were forcibly removing lawfully required observers so the cheating could get underway in the middle of the night. Other than you saying so, why should I believe this time will be different? Tell me how many National Guard troops I should expect to see in Philadelphia tonight enforcing proper vote counting and preventing cheating? I'll wager that number is zero.
Military Take-over by WOKIES - is concerning....Not Trusting this "new" development___Citizens of each state must be there to Oversee
"Cybersecurity units from the National Guard will be activated in 14 U.S. states to help counter any threats to election officials’ networks ahead of, during, and following the Nov. 8 elections, according to reports.
The 14 include battleground states Arizona, Iowa, and Pennsylvania, as well as Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, North Carolina, New Mexico, New York, Washington, and West Virginia, Politico reported."
Why are there cybersecurity NG units being activated, when we've been told that these things can't be hacked, have no internet connectivity, have no modem, etc.
National Guard Cybersecurity Units Activated in 14 States Ahead of Midterm Elections: Reports
By Mimi Nguyen Ly November 6, 2022 Updated: November 6, 2022
Cybersecurity units from the National Guard will be activated in 14 U.S. states to help counter any threats to election officials’ networks ahead of, during, and following the Nov. 8 elections, according to reports.
The 14 include battleground states Arizona, Iowa, and Pennsylvania, as well as Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, North Carolina, New Mexico, New York, Washington, and West Virginia, Politico reported.
Brig. Gen. Gent Welsh, the commander of the Washington Air National Guard, said at a virtual media briefing on Nov. 4 that not every state is doing it, but states that are activating these units “have invested in cyber talent and cyber missions for years,” according to outlet Statescoop, which reports on technology-related news in government.
“If you don’t have a cyber unit in your state, you’re not in a good position to help them protect elections,” Welsh said.
He added that the National Guard’s participation in election cybersecurity activities “does add an air of credibility to what’s out there,” noting that the National Guard “is still one of the most trusted institutions in the United States.”
‘As Secure Elections as Possible’
The plan comes after eight states received support from cyber units in the National Guard during the primary elections that took place earlier this year.
According to the outlets, there are 38 dedicated cyber units within the Air and Army National Guard across the United States that work to help state and local officials on cyber-related issues, such as network assessments and risk mitigation. The cyber units collectively comprise more than 2,200 personnel.
“Our goal is to make sure we have as secure elections as possible. We are at the really beginning stages of this,” said Air Force Maj. Gen. Rich Neely, head of the Illinois National Guard, Statescoop reported.
National Guard officials will receive security updates from the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) in their work to support the elections, Politico reported.
According to its website, CISA was created in 2018 during the Trump administration to work with government and industry partners to defend against current and predicted threats to cyber and physical infrastructure, including election infrastructure.
No Indication of Potential Disruption: CISA Director
CISA Director Jen Easterly has repeatedly said she doesn’t expect any major disruptions to the midterms.
She said at a Nov. 1 event hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies that there is “no information credible or specific about efforts to disrupt or compromise” election infrastructure and that she was “very confident that we have done everything we can to make election infrastructure as secure and as resilient as possible.”
Meanwhile, Neely said that he and his team are “not expecting to see anything.”
“But much like we did after Jan. 6, if the Guard’s called in, the Guard responds as needed,” he said as reported by Statescoop. “We’re not expecting anything with what we’re seeing.”
Army Maj. Gen. M. Todd Hunt, the adjutant general of the North Carolina National Guard, said at the Nov. 4 media briefing that his state has a joint cyber mission center that will facilitate communication between the state’s cyber unit, its departments of Information Technology and Emergency Management, as well as federal contacts from CISA, the Department of Homeland Security, and the FBI.
According to the outlets, Hunt said there will be 25 National Guard members on duty in the cyber unit for North Carolina on Election Day, up from the usual core team of 10. The extra members will include federal and emergency management partners.
“We will surge during the election to ensure that we have 24-hour coverage throughout this whole process,” Hunt said, according to Politico. “We are citizen soldiers, we live in this state, and we do have a vested interest in our state elections as well as our federal elections.”
Out of all the "tech" professions, It does seem by far to be easiest for anyone to become a "cybersecurity professional" doesn't it? Programming, design skills, technical knowledge? Nah... You just have to learn to be like MUH SECURITY POLICIES WE NEED SECURITY POLICIES and get a cert or two and you're qualified for a ton of "cybersecurity" jobs out there (though there are plenty of real ones that require some actual knowledge).
AND THEN add to that how practically anyone in cybersecurity knows you can make 3X+ the money in the private sector, and look at what that leaves you for the Guard: a bunch of fat POG pseuds who consider themselves L337 h4xx0rs, took the clotshots, couldn't make it in the real industry, and who unironically enjoy serving Joe Biden.
lol I got the actual CEH cert once (let it expire in favor of CySA+).
What a fucking joke ECCouncil is--exam was full of ESL shit, I didn't do a single bit of hands-on practice and still passed, AND I believe they're literally headquartered in fucking India too. The continuing education shit was just a huge money-grabbing scam way more than CompTIA's is.
The fact that the approved 8750 certs don't include stuff like OSCP tells you all you need to know about the level of expertise in DoD cybersec. Then you figure the Guard is even more amateur than the real Army people, oof.
Epoch is banned by all of the usual suspects and blacklisted by most advertisers, so they have to make money somehow. They're the only newspaper I get the physical copy of.
One thing though is that the vast majority of NG Cyber Units work on the defense side of the house. They'll learn about the offense side of the house so they become familiar with that perspective but their primary job is defense.. whether that be proactive or reactive. But they don't look at it from an "information" security standpoint.. they look at cyberspace as a battleground where their task is to outright deny the enemy freedom of maneuver and capabilities in the first place which in turn defends the information. Think of it as a slightly-purple blue team. They won't hack adversary offensive infrastructure but will draw it in so they can capture samples, RE it and build a better defense against it.
Like the public/private InfoSec fields in recent years it's a mixed bag.
You get people that don't know shit but managed to squeek through the military training by the skin of their teeth and then you get those savants gifted with the right kind of autism who "get it" and who are passionate about it.
The problem is most of the time their leadership are from the former demographic.
And the problem with military cyber is that type of leadership drives the latter demographic out after their first term or two.
Some of the cyber training is an absolute filter of capabilities.. one of the military cyber courses is 5x SANS certifications in a DoD setting/classroom with multiple GSEs and experienced and accomplished military cyber instructors in 10 weeks followed by a rigorous demonstration of applied knowledge from those certifications in an exercise lasting several 24/7 weeks. 80% do not make it through the SANS certification phase in class sizes of about 10 with nearly a 1:1 instructor to student ratio.
Source: I've been through all that and got out after my first or second term.
Additionally, I work a lot with NG Cyber Units in various collaborative efforts. Whenever we have them we use them as extra manpower.. and on day one I'm picking out all their autists and assigning them to the investigative rabbit holes that have the highest potential for returned value while assigning the former demographic to handling administrative taskings.
I completely agree with you on paper ballots only and only one day of voting.
The "network" is only the tip of the iceberg with elections though. Many districts do have completely disconnected voting machines that stay disconnected throughout the election but there are anomalies. The bigger "network" concept here is the "network" of people surrounding the election and those fraud networks of people and the "network" of how votes are counted and tallied..
The use of the word "networks" doesn't imply that every voting machine in the country has an active connection.
I can also tell you from a position of authority on the subject matter that my state will be performing digital forensics examinations in districts which previously had statistical anomalies in past elections and that those investigations are ongoing and likely will continue throughout November.
I'm hoping to use any findings from this election to push even harder for paper ballots in next election. 2020 we were caught with our pants around our ankles.. this year I've worked it so that at least in my state we have laid the groundwork to catch fraud and gather enough evidence to not only figure out how they did it but also attribute it to identities and organizations.
I'm not saying trust the plan at all. I need patriots like you and everyone else to keep applying pressure for paper ballots where you can and whenever you can. That pressure is how I was able to set up the current investigation in the first place.
A lot of it is custom tailored for the DoD and the challenges the DoD faces and doesn't necessarily translate well into the civilian sectors nor does it set them up to integrate well with the civilian sectors. The few courses which are built around an industry-standard certifications like SANS are the exception.. but most leave the individual without much of anything they could put on a resume. Even the SANS training is given a DoD twist.
I get a lot of interviewees from the military with a cyber background who don't interview well because they don't speak the same language. They usually know the material but I have to dig it out of them but luckily I have the same background as most of them so I speak their native tongue.
Was wondering this too. Maybe like a temporary SOC. I have no idea how voting machines work, but my guess is the voting machines will connect to the internet >> pipe all traffic to a primary state collection center. I mean they don't physically load up the machines, driving them to a primary site for someone to log into and count?
Maybe they'll setup to collect and inspect traffic coming into that primary site. Make sure data hasn't been manipulated, and make sure only traffic from legit voting machines are accepted. Then also monitor the network (which idk if it'd be an existing state govt network or temporary network+datacenter setup specifically for midterms?) for any intrusion attempts. Which hopefully would only be a few custom secure ports/protocols open..not a website 80/443 running ftp, some other java web service on 8080 and some other garbage.
There are still a ton of way's you could fuck with the data. As a red teamer, I'd really like to see the full process of how some of these states go through the full electronic voting gambit.
The 14 include battleground states Arizona, Iowa, and Pennsylvania, as well as Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, North Carolina, New Mexico, New York, Washington, and West Virginia.
at best any electronic election equipment should be stand-alone. never networked and never have ANY CHANCE of being able to connect to the Internet or even a LAN. If you have a modem or router in the device, it can be hacked and connect to a network, someone can re-enable the antenna and broadcast. Also, any and all USB/SD card or other input ports on the machines should come with a lockable seal covering them up and rendering them unusable except in times where software needs to be debugged (and that is done under CLOSE supervision with all activities logged and the previous versions of any software preserved).
We need to end this concept of a voting industry. there should be no moneymaking off elections so there would be less motivation to cheat.
Shut down the servers at 2-3 AM when the Dems are losing by more than 10 points. Hold large white signs to cover the windows. Go break urinals in Atlanta. Help move boxes of ballots from under tables. Rerun ballots that are 100 % Democrat. Detain citizens that want transparent and honest elections.
Don't worry folks, The Pre-Ops are securing the election for you. Nah bro, they aren't like the post-ops. Nah bro this is different than last election.
they dont want to give up the electronic voting and counting.
it should be 1 day, paper+pencil voting, hand-counting.
but somehow that is not an option for authoritarians, how surprising.
"Cybersecurity units from the National Guard will be activated in 14 U.S. states to help counter any threats to election officials’ networks ahead of, during, and following the Nov. 8 elections, according to reports.
The 14 include battleground states Arizona, Iowa, and Pennsylvania, as well as Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, North Carolina, New Mexico, New York, Washington, and West Virginia, Politico reported."
National Guard? Had to help a NG unit put back together a mk 19 they'd stripped in a Charleston mall one time. Not putting my faith in the NG , they'd be in Silicone Valley if they were worth a shit at cyber security.
Seems like hand counting would circumvent all of this.
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no early voting or mail in ballots. If you can't prioritize your time properly, we don't want your opinion.
in person
with ID
on paper
ink stain on skin after
counted the same day
NO COMPROMISES
But then how will the Democrats cheat?
Democrats won't exist.
🚁
And Republicans would have no choice but work for their constituents instead of being uniparty shills.
All Democrats have is a lot of money and the "the most sophisticated voter fraud system this country has ever seen." Joe Biden
We need a national contest to create a perfect voting system ..3 months of entries and 3 months of scrutinizing the finalists, big cash prize and faith restored in voting
.just the idea that our military has to oversee the elections with cyber security teams means we are waaaaay out in the weeds
And at this point who in their right mind trusts the military?
Came here to say this. Hopefully some based underling will spill the beans after the fact.
It's the national guard, not "the military" but the feds have sunk their claws into the guard so deep that the two are virtually indistinguishable now anyway.
Just like everything the central authoritarians in federal government have brought under their influence.
The nat guard is so compromised that it is time for states to begin authorizing regular militias.
Wait, you wanna vote about how we'll vote? Seems like extra steps.
Yes and it needs to be fixed immediately. And every other topic we have talked about since 2020 has been a complete waste of fucking time and if we don't get to it immediately after they steal these fucking midterms we won't be able to get Trump in either. They will fucking give it to Hillary Clinton
This could be simplified with better voter ID.
Give a $1 bill with every mail-in and absentee ballot... those have a unique serial number... ballot harvesters would be tempted to steal the ballots, or open them up to remove the dollar, throwing ballot harvesters off their game
None of those ballots can count if there's no dollar
Not just ignore it and let whoever they want vote by mail.
and NO OFF-SITE COUNTING
all ballots to be placed in clear bins and counted AT EACH INDIVIDUAL POLLING PLACE in full view of witnesses and in front of Internet cameras that are accessible to everyone.
This. Retards shouldn't have the right to vote.
Perfectly clear... why they couldn't allow paper ballots long term
Don't forget VOTER ID
...and the death penalty for voter fraud.
It should be considered a treasonous offense.
Like France Canada and so many others do. You show up, show ID, you put an X on a piece of paper, you tear off the serial number and put it in one box, drop your ballot in the sealed box next to it without anybody else touching it. And you leave.
Results are in 15 minutes after the polls closed...
It's mind-boggling that the left peddle the bullshit that it takes an extra week to count votes with computers than it does by hand.
Don't forget the $100s of millions or more likely being paid under the table for all of the voting code "glitches" that aren't detected.
"But our elections aren't connected to the internet".....
You mean like the chicken farm in Arizona that burned to the ground because it was stuffed with counterfeit paper ballots controlled by that one Dem donor that Greg Phillips from True the Vote said he could use to track the fraud? Those paper ballots?
Blockchain is the only way forward. Fortunately, Trump's man Peter Theil has the patent.
Block chain is still open to fraud. Also show proof of your previous assertion. Keep in mind server fights in Germany don’t count.
Other pede above had much better idea. Need paper, ID, thumb ink….
But no electronic bullshit.
This. So many blockchain advocates push for it but fail to understand how easy it is to change and corrupt the actual blockchain. We implemented blockchain at our company as a POC and several of us were able to alter the blockchain within hours.
It’s scary because there will be totalitarian control wher Anyone who questions the Blockchain security will immediately be called a conspiracy theorist and election denier because “science “.
There are many different implementations of blockchain. It makes no sense to generalize in this way. The people making POCs at your company are just idiots. No one at your company can manipulate the bitcoin blockchain for example. It is concensus driven across millions of nodes and vast amounts of compute
Idiots? Name calling, how nice. Yet you're wrong.
I'm well aware of how blockchain works, thanks for the kindergarten version. We still hacked it.
If you're a blockchain expert and can totally hack it then why not hack bitcoin and be billionaires?
Are you retarded?
Someones angry. Im sure a kindergardener could hack your companies PoC fakechain. No one doubts that... stop making maga look so dumb
You sound vaccinated
Yes, I should absolutely take advice from a retard. Congrats on being able to put 3 words together. Your handler must be so proud of you.
Each block chain transaction uses as much energy as 50 days of power for the average US household.
https://www.cnet.com/personal-finance/crypto/bitcoin-mining-how-much-electricity-it-takes-and-why-people-are-worried/
Mining and transacting are different things.
How does mining verify transactions?
A transaction is considered verified once the miner solves a cryptographic (mathematical) puzzle.
https://consensys.net/knowledge-base/how-does-a-blockchain-work/
I have limited knowledge in the space, but you're describing mining for "proof of work" style crypto-currencies, not transacting with that currency. For the obvious analogy, you don't need to head into the Earth, pull out tons of ore, refine it, and cast it onto bars every time you want to use gold to buy something. That's just how gold enters the market. Once it's in the market, it's very easy to just exchange it for goods. I think that takes place on the currency's blockchain ledger, and is requires very little energy compared with mining.
Verifying transactions takes most of the energy. Blockchain is just energy intensive.
Yea, so much theater for election security but they don't seem to want to implement any simple, cheap fixes that are used around the world
Did they ever answer why cybersecurity is needed for voting machines that are supposedly not connected to the internet?
Depends what the meanings of "connected" and "internet" are.
Can you define "are" too while your at it? All this is so confusing...
To make sure nobody sees the extra ballots they are injecring into the vote counts
You can hack things wirelessly and physically as well.
Hell the machines might have built in cheating like we know they do
Proven they do
Fair
Stop asking questions!!
There are ways to hack/manipulate voting machines which don't have a connection. There was (may still be) a method on some voting machines where an attacker could enter the voting booth and switch all votes the machine tallied or will tally by leveraging physical access to it.. and do so in the average time it would take someone to vote.
OK, so how are national guard dudes working remotely going to do fuck all about that?
Not all cyber work is remote.
And not all military cyber work is overt.
No? wtf do you think 'cyber' means? What exactly are these national guard guys going to do, and if it's acceptable to employ national guard troops to secure the elections, why aren't they being stationed inside the precincts that have thrown out observers, papered over windows and delayed counting to cheat in the middle of the night?
Who said they aren't being stationed inside precincts?
I certainly didn't say that.
In fact, I ran out of manpower to monitor precincts and had to ask around for more bodies.. guess who I went to?
See my other comments on this post for more context.
I said they aren't - and that's based on me watching live on tv in 2016, 2018 and 2020 that uniformed cops were forcibly removing lawfully required observers so the cheating could get underway in the middle of the night. Other than you saying so, why should I believe this time will be different? Tell me how many National Guard troops I should expect to see in Philadelphia tonight enforcing proper vote counting and preventing cheating? I'll wager that number is zero.
I don't work for the state of Pennsylvania so I cannot comment on that. That state is fucked so I believe you may be correct.
Time to refill the bloody bucket up there, IMO.
Tyrants do not willingly relinquish power.
History tell us this.
That is why the Founding Fathers inserted the Second Amendment into the Constitution.
These units are not there to help us. Don’t trust them.
Is this 'trust the plan' national guard types, or 'boot on your neck' national guard types.
They are from the government and they are here to help.
Need to go check the QTARD site brb!!
Anyone still serving under an unelected pedophile is compromised
Cyber, so, you do the math. Let's see. We had "boots on the ground" types all thru the first half of 2020. How'd that work out....
PATRIOTS ARE IN CONTROL
LINK: https://www.theepochtimes.com/national-guard-cybersecurity-units-activated-in-14-states-ahead-of-midterm-elections-reports_4844950.html
Epoch Times - One of excellent sources of TRUTH
Military Take-over by WOKIES - is concerning....Not Trusting this "new" development___Citizens of each state must be there to Oversee
"Cybersecurity units from the National Guard will be activated in 14 U.S. states to help counter any threats to election officials’ networks ahead of, during, and following the Nov. 8 elections, according to reports.
The 14 include battleground states Arizona, Iowa, and Pennsylvania, as well as Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, North Carolina, New Mexico, New York, Washington, and West Virginia, Politico reported."
Why are there cybersecurity NG units being activated, when we've been told that these things can't be hacked, have no internet connectivity, have no modem, etc.
Oh wait.
They are the hackers.
Exactly this. Deployed to ensure they steal it again.
Stop noticing things!
National Guard Cybersecurity Units Activated in 14 States Ahead of Midterm Elections: Reports
By Mimi Nguyen Ly November 6, 2022 Updated: November 6, 2022
Cybersecurity units from the National Guard will be activated in 14 U.S. states to help counter any threats to election officials’ networks ahead of, during, and following the Nov. 8 elections, according to reports.
The 14 include battleground states Arizona, Iowa, and Pennsylvania, as well as Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, North Carolina, New Mexico, New York, Washington, and West Virginia, Politico reported.
Brig. Gen. Gent Welsh, the commander of the Washington Air National Guard, said at a virtual media briefing on Nov. 4 that not every state is doing it, but states that are activating these units “have invested in cyber talent and cyber missions for years,” according to outlet Statescoop, which reports on technology-related news in government.
“If you don’t have a cyber unit in your state, you’re not in a good position to help them protect elections,” Welsh said.
He added that the National Guard’s participation in election cybersecurity activities “does add an air of credibility to what’s out there,” noting that the National Guard “is still one of the most trusted institutions in the United States.”
‘As Secure Elections as Possible’
The plan comes after eight states received support from cyber units in the National Guard during the primary elections that took place earlier this year.
According to the outlets, there are 38 dedicated cyber units within the Air and Army National Guard across the United States that work to help state and local officials on cyber-related issues, such as network assessments and risk mitigation. The cyber units collectively comprise more than 2,200 personnel.
“Our goal is to make sure we have as secure elections as possible. We are at the really beginning stages of this,” said Air Force Maj. Gen. Rich Neely, head of the Illinois National Guard, Statescoop reported.
National Guard officials will receive security updates from the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) in their work to support the elections, Politico reported.
According to its website, CISA was created in 2018 during the Trump administration to work with government and industry partners to defend against current and predicted threats to cyber and physical infrastructure, including election infrastructure.
No Indication of Potential Disruption: CISA Director
CISA Director Jen Easterly has repeatedly said she doesn’t expect any major disruptions to the midterms.
She said at a Nov. 1 event hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies that there is “no information credible or specific about efforts to disrupt or compromise” election infrastructure and that she was “very confident that we have done everything we can to make election infrastructure as secure and as resilient as possible.”
Meanwhile, Neely said that he and his team are “not expecting to see anything.”
“But much like we did after Jan. 6, if the Guard’s called in, the Guard responds as needed,” he said as reported by Statescoop. “We’re not expecting anything with what we’re seeing.”
Army Maj. Gen. M. Todd Hunt, the adjutant general of the North Carolina National Guard, said at the Nov. 4 media briefing that his state has a joint cyber mission center that will facilitate communication between the state’s cyber unit, its departments of Information Technology and Emergency Management, as well as federal contacts from CISA, the Department of Homeland Security, and the FBI.
According to the outlets, Hunt said there will be 25 National Guard members on duty in the cyber unit for North Carolina on Election Day, up from the usual core team of 10. The extra members will include federal and emergency management partners.
“We will surge during the election to ensure that we have 24-hour coverage throughout this whole process,” Hunt said, according to Politico. “We are citizen soldiers, we live in this state, and we do have a vested interest in our state elections as well as our federal elections.”
I trust the cyber security skills of these guardsmen as much about as far as I can throw them.
I have been learning cyber sec for under a year and am already more certified in the field then these “cyber sec experts”
The whole field is a joke filled with do nothing good enoughers
Out of all the "tech" professions, It does seem by far to be easiest for anyone to become a "cybersecurity professional" doesn't it? Programming, design skills, technical knowledge? Nah... You just have to learn to be like MUH SECURITY POLICIES WE NEED SECURITY POLICIES and get a cert or two and you're qualified for a ton of "cybersecurity" jobs out there (though there are plenty of real ones that require some actual knowledge).
AND THEN add to that how practically anyone in cybersecurity knows you can make 3X+ the money in the private sector, and look at what that leaves you for the Guard: a bunch of fat POG pseuds who consider themselves L337 h4xx0rs, took the clotshots, couldn't make it in the real industry, and who unironically enjoy serving Joe Biden.
Amen brotha.
Actual “hacking” like enterprise or APT penetration testing is hard as shit.
But that’s why our goverment systems are all compromised. Real hacking is hard, ALOT to know and you need creative thinking skills
We have low skilled CeH script kiddies pen testing the governments systems and certifying them as safe. It’s insane……
lol I got the actual CEH cert once (let it expire in favor of CySA+).
What a fucking joke ECCouncil is--exam was full of ESL shit, I didn't do a single bit of hands-on practice and still passed, AND I believe they're literally headquartered in fucking India too. The continuing education shit was just a huge money-grabbing scam way more than CompTIA's is.
The fact that the approved 8750 certs don't include stuff like OSCP tells you all you need to know about the level of expertise in DoD cybersec. Then you figure the Guard is even more amateur than the real Army people, oof.
Nice. Got my cysa+ about a month ago!
I’m itching to get my hands on the OSCP. I promised myself it would be a reward for slogging through my ccna and CASP.
The worst part of it all for me is I’m spending thousands out of pocket on these exams, and I’m self teaching.
Meanwhile these “public servents” get them paid for with my tax dollars AND they don’t actually learn the shit anyways!
Somone on here was ranting to me about how all the high up cyber sec mangers just have CISSP and no actual technical skills.
Your testimony seems to correlate this point lol.
Meanwhile Chinese highschoolers have completed hundreds of CTF boxes lmao
If you were a good hacker why would you work for the ng when you could work at Lockheed and make 300k a year.
Or better yet,
Work for the cartels and make millions……
Trust me, the best people at cyber security are by far always going to be the attackers.
I’m sure they are fine, but no way in hell they are anywhere near skilled enough to stop China or Russia from doing as they please.
Indeed I am.
Agreed.
God bless!
Thank you. retarded op posting paywall bull shit. Much appreciated.
Downvoted for paywall
Epoch is banned by all of the usual suspects and blacklisted by most advertisers, so they have to make money somehow. They're the only newspaper I get the physical copy of.
Ha having been in information security 25 years I'd love to be a fly on the wall and see what constitutes a national guard cybersecurity unit 🤤
Lemme guess a bunch of faggots in camo installing Kali Linux on old laptops and trying to run ms08-067 exploits against Win98 boxes?
One thing though is that the vast majority of NG Cyber Units work on the defense side of the house. They'll learn about the offense side of the house so they become familiar with that perspective but their primary job is defense.. whether that be proactive or reactive. But they don't look at it from an "information" security standpoint.. they look at cyberspace as a battleground where their task is to outright deny the enemy freedom of maneuver and capabilities in the first place which in turn defends the information. Think of it as a slightly-purple blue team. They won't hack adversary offensive infrastructure but will draw it in so they can capture samples, RE it and build a better defense against it.
Like the public/private InfoSec fields in recent years it's a mixed bag.
You get people that don't know shit but managed to squeek through the military training by the skin of their teeth and then you get those savants gifted with the right kind of autism who "get it" and who are passionate about it.
The problem is most of the time their leadership are from the former demographic.
And the problem with military cyber is that type of leadership drives the latter demographic out after their first term or two.
Some of the cyber training is an absolute filter of capabilities.. one of the military cyber courses is 5x SANS certifications in a DoD setting/classroom with multiple GSEs and experienced and accomplished military cyber instructors in 10 weeks followed by a rigorous demonstration of applied knowledge from those certifications in an exercise lasting several 24/7 weeks. 80% do not make it through the SANS certification phase in class sizes of about 10 with nearly a 1:1 instructor to student ratio.
Source: I've been through all that and got out after my first or second term.
Additionally, I work a lot with NG Cyber Units in various collaborative efforts. Whenever we have them we use them as extra manpower.. and on day one I'm picking out all their autists and assigning them to the investigative rabbit holes that have the highest potential for returned value while assigning the former demographic to handling administrative taskings.
I completely agree with you on paper ballots only and only one day of voting.
The "network" is only the tip of the iceberg with elections though. Many districts do have completely disconnected voting machines that stay disconnected throughout the election but there are anomalies. The bigger "network" concept here is the "network" of people surrounding the election and those fraud networks of people and the "network" of how votes are counted and tallied..
The use of the word "networks" doesn't imply that every voting machine in the country has an active connection.
I can also tell you from a position of authority on the subject matter that my state will be performing digital forensics examinations in districts which previously had statistical anomalies in past elections and that those investigations are ongoing and likely will continue throughout November.
I'm hoping to use any findings from this election to push even harder for paper ballots in next election. 2020 we were caught with our pants around our ankles.. this year I've worked it so that at least in my state we have laid the groundwork to catch fraud and gather enough evidence to not only figure out how they did it but also attribute it to identities and organizations.
I'm not saying trust the plan at all. I need patriots like you and everyone else to keep applying pressure for paper ballots where you can and whenever you can. That pressure is how I was able to set up the current investigation in the first place.
And when I can release the findings.. I will.
Cool. Sounds like their training is still better than a lot of private sector, and finding people with the mindset is still key.
I wouldn't say all their training is better.
It's usually more intense.
A lot of it is custom tailored for the DoD and the challenges the DoD faces and doesn't necessarily translate well into the civilian sectors nor does it set them up to integrate well with the civilian sectors. The few courses which are built around an industry-standard certifications like SANS are the exception.. but most leave the individual without much of anything they could put on a resume. Even the SANS training is given a DoD twist.
I get a lot of interviewees from the military with a cyber background who don't interview well because they don't speak the same language. They usually know the material but I have to dig it out of them but luckily I have the same background as most of them so I speak their native tongue.
Na it’s all about eternal blue nowadays you freakin boomer
Na it's all about CVE-2022-35804 now you freakin millennial.
kek, i think windows might have a security problem xD
Ahaha found the Guardfag!
<3
Was wondering this too. Maybe like a temporary SOC. I have no idea how voting machines work, but my guess is the voting machines will connect to the internet >> pipe all traffic to a primary state collection center. I mean they don't physically load up the machines, driving them to a primary site for someone to log into and count?
Maybe they'll setup to collect and inspect traffic coming into that primary site. Make sure data hasn't been manipulated, and make sure only traffic from legit voting machines are accepted. Then also monitor the network (which idk if it'd be an existing state govt network or temporary network+datacenter setup specifically for midterms?) for any intrusion attempts. Which hopefully would only be a few custom secure ports/protocols open..not a website 80/443 running ftp, some other java web service on 8080 and some other garbage.
There are still a ton of way's you could fuck with the data. As a red teamer, I'd really like to see the full process of how some of these states go through the full electronic voting gambit.
Monitor? I bet these pukes don't even know what tcpdump is
I have some insight into that stuff from some my contracting work with DoD.
If only you knew just how correct your guess is, lol.
Weird, i thought we had the most secure elections in the world.
All swing states?
Can you post the text of the article in here please? I don’t want to pay to read it.
Add a period after .com
You’re welcome
Why does that work?
shrug
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They wouldn't need to protect election networks if there were no election networks.
Why would we trust the military? Didn’t their leadership back the steal?
And we started trusting the woke military when? Not saying all is woke, but I don’t see this as a saving grace per se
The Cheat is deployed.*
at best any electronic election equipment should be stand-alone. never networked and never have ANY CHANCE of being able to connect to the Internet or even a LAN. If you have a modem or router in the device, it can be hacked and connect to a network, someone can re-enable the antenna and broadcast. Also, any and all USB/SD card or other input ports on the machines should come with a lockable seal covering them up and rendering them unusable except in times where software needs to be debugged (and that is done under CLOSE supervision with all activities logged and the previous versions of any software preserved).
We need to end this concept of a voting industry. there should be no moneymaking off elections so there would be less motivation to cheat.
And they're there to do what?
Shut down the servers at 2-3 AM when the Dems are losing by more than 10 points. Hold large white signs to cover the windows. Go break urinals in Atlanta. Help move boxes of ballots from under tables. Rerun ballots that are 100 % Democrat. Detain citizens that want transparent and honest elections.
There must be some white supremecies afoot 🤡 🌎
Sounds like a fortification attempt to me
Don't worry folks, The Pre-Ops are securing the election for you. Nah bro, they aren't like the post-ops. Nah bro this is different than last election.
I hope we don't have any last minute water main breaks or ANTIFA (mostly peaceful) riots that prevent people from voting in person tomorrow.
Gee, I didn't see any of this when Biden stole the election in 2020.
I thought the machines weren't hooked up to the internet?
To help democrats NOT us
they dont want to give up the electronic voting and counting. it should be 1 day, paper+pencil voting, hand-counting. but somehow that is not an option for authoritarians, how surprising.
I remember when that would make me warm and fuzzy.
Now it just make me feel ill.
Who activated them?
Imagine trump doing this… coup would have been stated no less than 100 times in headlines
Can't read it- which states are doing it?
Weird. I thought voting machines weren’t connected to the internet.
Epoch Times :
"Cybersecurity units from the National Guard will be activated in 14 U.S. states to help counter any threats to election officials’ networks ahead of, during, and following the Nov. 8 elections, according to reports.
The 14 include battleground states Arizona, Iowa, and Pennsylvania, as well as Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, North Carolina, New Mexico, New York, Washington, and West Virginia, Politico reported."
National Guard cyber? Don't hold your breath.
National Guard? Had to help a NG unit put back together a mk 19 they'd stripped in a Charleston mall one time. Not putting my faith in the NG , they'd be in Silicone Valley if they were worth a shit at cyber security.
The archive... https://archive.ph/uBB1S
Seems like a way to cover up fraud.
Sure hope they work as well as 2020.