He got them to fake a pandemic to usher in no excuse mail in voting to beat him. Making the fraud completely obvious. What we do with that is a separate issue but I'd call that pretty earth shattering.
He fundamentally changed relations with China (while in office). He went 4 years without war. He stopped the rocket man, and for a time started to mend relations between North and South Korea. He got NATO countries to pay their fair share. Gas prices were driven to a recent time low, and the stock market climb from the whole time he was in office until he left. He stopped the lip service about our southern border and began to build a wall severely limiting the flood of illegals. HE began a process of reducing regulation by requiring a 2 for 1 policy for every new regulation; eliminate 2. These are just what I remember of the top of my head - seems earth shattering? But, your right about the our voice part.
Understood, all these things were great, but many were the result of common-sense governing.
His North Korean meeting, however, was something I thought was the greatest thing he did. He showed courage, he demonstrated to the world that America was once again a force for good, and he could have made the biggest differences for millions of Koreans living there.
But all said, the biggest threat Trump posed was that MAGA was growing exponentially.
Think it may be too late at this point... only way out is for the next generation to see how bad it gets and then revolt, the Baby Boomers made weak generations, and it's time to reap what was sown.
Let's just hope we don't enter into a dark age in the meantime.
The next generation? What are you even talking about? The Republicans have nothing. The Democrats have preschool all the way up to the presidency and every lever of power in between all the way across the world. They even have the church. You have nothing, you have lost.
I am waiting for word from higher up before I start doing anything. You start "revolts" now, you'll get us all locked down and losing our "rights" that we have right now. Don't do anything violent revolting. Peaceful (not antifa-peaceful either) protesting okay - nothing violent.
I may be pretty well read on Roman history, so please give more detail than the previous non-sequitur.
I'll make it easy: the man was an aspirational tyrant and his officers loved him because he rewarded them well with spoils. He also won battles, which tends to be popular.
The above was almost not true, as he got lucky a few times.
Gotta give him credit for how he beat Pompeii, because he was the underdog there.
These shill lovers here don’t have a clue what war would mean. We’d get picked to death by vultures from the outside while destroying our productivity, our big advantage over everyone. It’s a shill theme that has won out here and it sucks.
The swamp is deeper than anyone thought. We have corrupt politicians on both sides. All 3 letter branches are corrupt, a corrupt SCOTUS, a corrupt media, a corrupt world.
Not deeper than anyone thought. Lots of us who have been studying the machinations of the Deep State have known about it for decades but were called all kinds of names when we sought to bring attention to it. Now you reap what you sow.
There is no "overwhelming" the fraud. No matter how much turnout we generate, they will simply drag out the "counting" until they can generate enough votes to just barely overcome it and win.
Trump didn't win in 2016 because he overwhelmed the fraud. The dems were so overconfident that it was "her turn" that they didn't put their full effort into the steal...they didn't think they needed to.
The FBI decided not to investigate Hillary. Do you think that President Trump had the ability to arrest Hillary? In your own words what does Drain the Swamp mean?
As commander in Chief of the military he could have brought Hillary up on treason for selling uranium to foreign powers and selling state secrets.
Run for president? Trump doesn't need to be president at this point he has so much power if he would just use it to consolidate and coordinate us. No one else is in that position. He could tell us all to go on our phones and change our default search engine away from Google and that company would lose hundreds of billions overnight. His economic power and influence is unparalleled. He has an army but he refuses to use any of it for whatever reason.
There are some people who think Trump is controlled opposition. I see the logic, but I haven’t seen any evidence. I lean to him not being. Regardless, I don’t think he has what it takes to REALLY drain the swamp. Here we are getting conquered by the globalists… the blue states are effectively conquered….and we lack true leaders or the proper fortitude to stop it. The globalists are gonna kick things into high gear in 2023. Maybe the pain they inflict will be the catalyst we need. I campaigned for three Republicans this election but I am now certain voting harder isn’t going to save us.
I love Trump, but I just can't be a part of another rigged game. I will focus
on my own town and try to live my best life. Getting involved in national politics
is over for me since the GOP is powerless and gutless to stop the cheating.
You cannot escape it. None of us can. There is no rock to crawl under. There are ways to fight and win, but it requires that we adopt different strategies than we'd like or imagined having before. Once we all understand that, the path forward will become clear.
A different strategy would be to try and outcheat them or resort to violence. We are not cheaters and pulling out your guns will just get you killed or jailed unless you got everybody helping you. Sadly, we don't have that help. People are too comfortable. It will take decades for the weak to die off so that we can rebuild. I will be dead by then.
I guess we’ll have to just turn to the people rather than politicians, the people whom:
Governour Morris, signatory to the US constitution, described as “King” of America,
And who George Washington described as “The only keepers” of the constitution.
Our nation is a nation of self government. We handed over every little responsibility, authority, and power for the sake of convenience. Well, it’s becoming rather inconvenient, and it’s time we took it back.
no he was a highly influential and educated man who was already a leader then became a revolutionary with other extremely educated and influential people
I had the same realization this election... It's done, or at least I'm done. I'll be dead or too old to give a shit soon. This shit isn't getting fixed for decades unless some game changing event occurs soon. Otherwise it's the slow spin down the drain...
The billions go into the more authoritarian side in favor of centralized power because that is the easiest way to ram through multinational agendas.
This pairs up perfectly with the "jabroni" role the republicans serve which is ostensibly fortress america, even though it hasn't been since the hard gangster right wingers in the 50's and 60's. In reality they just grift off of american pride to get their RNC donations and roll the fuck over to act as a fake counterbalance.
The first step is get the fuck out of the red hat vs blue hat system. Its controlled and designed to maintain status quo. They are all your enemy.
Second step is stop thinking laws will save you. Their strategy is to infect key positions in the state such that laws matter to only you (not them). Once this is in place they will tell you up front they are about to break the law, do it, and throw you in jail for life for pointing it out (or doing thr same)
The country is fragmenting and its getting to the point where people really do not have any legal recourse to stop people that are hated from repeatedly being installed into power.
This is playing with fire and it doesn't end well for them in the long run.
That sounds good but there's mathematical proof that our election system WILL result in a two party duopoly. Trying to make a third will fail, it has nothing to do with how right that might be and everything to do with math. You run within either party or you lose. There's a reason there are negligible independents.
Best bet is, like Trump, running from within one party and doing everything to take it over. You can take over a party, but you can't start a new one without chaos on that side for at least a decade. We, very obviously, can't afford that.
Why not? It's better to have the Dems win a couple back-to-back elections and then have a MAGA party ready to dethrone the GOP, rather than continue in the GOP which is a den of snakes.
That sounds good but there's mathematical proof that our election system WILL result in a two party duopoly.
You’re thinking of Duverge’s Law. It’s true only in first-past-the-post voting systems. Changing to another type of voting can prevent that tendency and make 3rd parties relevant.
Elections in the US are first-past-the-post, and you're not changing that without a constitutional amendment which would be impossible in this climate. Think about it, why would the two ruling parties vote in favor of losing their duopoly?
They're going to pass all kinds of homo shit thru the house and senate like banning guns, probably free speech, mandating you chop your balls off and go trans, mandating yearly clot shots or no paychecks, mandating you house some illegals. I can't wait. LFG
When I moved to this town long ago I'd live in many places with lots of different rules about registering to vote. So I took everything: drivers license, current power bill, credit card bill, birth certificate ... everything. They signed me up.
Fast forward to the first election I voted in in this state: I again took all kinds of paperwork since they hadn't given me a vote ID card like in other states. The old lady at the sign-in desk laughed when I started pulling documents out of my folder: "You don't need any of that," she said. "Just gimme your name."
I was shocked. "I could give you any name. How do you know I'm giving you my real name? What if someone has already come in here and gave my name?"
She laughed again. "Oh, that kind of thing won't happen here," said the old blue-haired lady in this blue town in this blue state.
Fast forward to when I recently went to the town office to TAKE MY NAME OFF THE VOTER ROLLS. [Yes, I really did that ... after being harassed 5-8 times per day for over a year by Demoncrats calling wanting to bring me absentee ballots, come over to help me fill one out, pick it up and deliver it for me ... Bullshit. I complained to the town, to the state, nobody gave a shit. So, I'm done. Maybe I'll sign up again next time.]
Sooo, when I went in to take my name off the rolls I had to submit a signed statement and bring a ton of ID documents and answer a bunch of questions to verify who I am.... yet for voting in this town I ONLY had to state my name?
How are you going to make a difference when they cheat to win and face no consequences? You would be better off working more to make more money so that you don't notice the 40% deduction. I love your spirit, but supporting a rigged game is crazy. Better to starve the Republicans of all funds, so they have a reason to fight to save their own positions.
How are you going to make a difference when they cheat to win and face no consequences?
Yet. Face no consequences yet. The more the cheat goes on, the more obvious it becomes. The more obvious it becomes, the more people get red pilled. Hell, I thought elections were on the up in up until 2020. It was only after that election did I realize that 2016 had the fix in for Hillary, but the part they were missing back then was the "stop the count and inject more Xeroxed ballots panic button". They fixed that in 2020.
Keep Fighting. The swamp has painted themselves into a corner. The swamp no longer has a long term winning strategy. The only way they can continue to hold power is to continue to cheat. The more they cheat the more they are exposed. The more they are exposed, the less the populous has faith in elections. And when enough no longer have faith in elections, then new leadership will be selected via other methods (God save us all).
Our only losing move is to roll over and just stay silent as they get away with it.
Have you looked at any local newscast? Listened to top Conservative radio? Heard a peep out of the Republicans. Not one of them is talking about the Democrats cheating. It's bizarre. They are afraid to call them out. There is no
pushback for the fraud. Even if there was, the DOJ, the FBI, and even the military are no help. There is no magical super hero that is going to fly in and make the cheaters pay for their misdeeds. We are in a life cycle that took 200 years for weak men to make a weak country. It may take a hundred years for strong men to build it back up again.
They are afraid of being called “election deniers”. They dont want to be grouped in with us crazy “conspiracy theorists”. That, or they are in on the steal.
Fear of being called names (why did we do away with dueling? They "duel" in a sort of way, in the 'hood, just less honorable) or being in on it [the stealing].
This is where they used Q to kill us. Right now a subset of this board is full of flat-earthers talking about lizard men and clones. And the machine did a wonderful job of making sure they and the grifters got the spotlight, and with it the association. “The election was stolen: says the guys raiding pizza places and looking for Jewish space lazers. Thiers evidence of voting fraud: says the con artists ‘releasing the krakken!’, frauds bigots and kooks, all of them.” And they hammered that till the layman began to associate the one with the other. Those stations with with wider audience, if they talk about these things, the audience starts to cringe. The sponsors start looking dodgy. So they don’t.
A lot of people on here, feeling righteously angry, said “fuck optics, they don’t matter.” And they did. They always fucking did and that battle was conceded to the people who are experts at using those to win.
Until they ban/stop tools that can expose them.. freedom of information comes to mind. We've seen this phenomenon happen as of recent with some social media outlets. We've also seen this type of "censorship" in other countries. Its very much possible and those who don't believe it are in denial. Talk to any immigrant who came from a communist country and they'll tell you what's up.
This is a revelation to people who have known about our federal system their entire lives but, somehow, convinced themselves that electing one guy president would be all that was required to reverse a century of progressivism and half a century of rank corruption.
It starts at "home". And if you don't particularly like your "home" but you live there for economic reasons or you're struggling, save and get the hell out.
Vigorously research where you're going to call home.
I recall sometime in the mid 2000s in my little town I grew up in that neighbors grew older and the people that moved in just didn't talk to one another... it was strange.
I'm now in the former category. Gonna move somewhere, try and make a difference in a place I feel comfortable investing my time, money, and energy into.
Thanks. I predict the next decade will be the decade of the "carpet baggers".
We have the technology to be so interconnected, yet, as time goes on, it seems like we are less connected to each other in the ways that are actually significant moreso than ever.
I sent some pretty decent money to MAGA politicians to help them get elected. Then, I probably drove friends and family nuts to make sure they voted. My daily conversations with my friends was about politics and not much else. The efforts have not been rewarding at all. I'm done.
Well props to you for the energy. I think there has to be other things that are useful that we can put our energy towards that can shift things culturally and politically. You definitely dont need to be driving family nuts or only talking about politics.
He must know that they are planning the same thing in 2024. I don't feel like he would just waste so much time and energy running for reelection without some sort of plan to stop fraud.
Lol.. He was the president with a lot of power and couldn't do anything. What plan he possibly could have in 2024?now all the government agencies can work in unison and no one will call them out. It also looks like after 2018, 2020 and 2022, they have mastered the art of steal.. They have gotten so much better and efficient at it that no plan will work anyway.
Because they have mouths to feed and will stomp on anyone's neck that gets in the way.
Keep in mind, they couldn't even handle rock dwellers in countries that wipe their ass with their bare hands. Wait til these dumbass low IQ servants fuck around and find out. The largest armed army is US civilians. Thank God for our 2A and our founders.
We have land. We have guns. They will shit their government issued chonies when we organize. They're dead-ass head shaved goons. They haven't won a war in almost 70 years.
Tree of Liberty is parched. Thirsting. In our lifetime? Maybe not. In my son's or his children? Probably. They will be ready and it will be glorious. History will tell that McVeigh was an underachiever and peaked too soon.
they keep fucking around but they don't seem to be finding out. how much worse could things possibly get?
white minority is basically here at this point, and will exponentially get worse as we turn into a brown shithole day by day. stolen elections. destroyed economy, rapidly vanishing middle class. wages have been completely stagnant for decades despite record profits year over year. small business industry is dead. the first amendment is dead, the second is basically just a shell of what it should be, and will only get worse. our women are completely worthless broken whores. our children are flooded with cult fetishistic tranny and anti-white propaganda from birth. our wars are fake and gay and serve globalist interests, in fact everything we do serves purely only globohomo interests, wef interests and climate change dogshit interests, all of which have only one consistent effect: the diminishing of our quality of life... i could go on, and on, and on. so, when do they find out?
History will tell that McVeigh was an underachiever and peaked too soon.
I've been saying that for awhile now, usually to mixed results.
He's no Marvin Heemeyer... But I think McVeigh (assuming he wasn't some asset running a flag) & Uncle Ted (Kazcynski, not Nudge) were in some way able to see beyond the bullshit.
McVeigh said he didn't know there was a daycare center in the Oklahoma City complex, didn't he? The mistake on both sides at Waco was not thinking of the children. I suppose there is a prevailing attitude, even in warfare, people try to maintain a set of morals - to draw a parallel - like Mike from Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul - no innocents / kids, that sorta thing.
The Uniparty doesn't seem to care for such subtleties. Hilldawg wanted to drone Assange just because he leaded an actual journalistic outfit that accepted whistleblowers and leaks? Obammy droned people with scant evidence. A guy that talked to a guy who was linked to ISIS? It's depressing to think about, really.
Honestly we’d be better off with Hillary than Biden. She’s power hungry, less likely to be controlled by others, Biden is a dementia addled puppet with Obama, Xi, Schwab, and Soros hands firmly up his ass.
What makes you think that? I mean, I'd love some Q meme-tier bombs to be dropped but it's almost certaintly just about his run, probably going to claim that since we won the house it was cause of his endorsements and yada yada.
yep. it would be a complete wipe out. sadly. a third party lead by trump wouldn't appeal to democrats, all it'd do is split the vote
i say this while realizing both paths are completely hopeless and pointless though. it wouldn't really change anything one way or another, voting is no longer a path to self-governance for sane white men, period
Not sure why the downvotes. It is. It mathematically is. Every third party in US history destroys that side until one is ground into dust, and it takes a while. WEF would just be laughing at us while their cronies destroy the USA in the meantime. Look at what they got done in just 2 years. Imagine 12.
I'll break Chauvin out, you get the fentanyl. u/Mungo, wear your Sunday best cause you're going to be all over the news, bud!
If you look at the prison where the J6 people are being kept, it's not that large of a complex, assuming there isn't a shit-ton of sub-level construction. Just a thought.
two years of pedo joe, two cycles of election cheating, two years of masking, two years of insanity, numerous lives ruined over vax mandates, etc... we're already at the significantly deteriorated stage, people just keep accepting it as the new normal and saying "when it gets worse..."
This, things are bad and we're all disappointed, but things can be a lot worse. Frankly many of us have too much to lose until the system does in fact falls completely. No one should stay quiet, we're all within our right to express our beliefs. We see what is happening before our very eyes and can make our own conclusions. However, making any drastic decisions based on what we think can happen is just not practical, let alone announcing it on a public forum..
Trump was pretty open about not liking people who fail / get caught. What's he supposed to do sacrifice himself over a bunch of people that accomplished nothing and didn't even take advantage of COVID to wear masks. Trump is doing what he can and that's working to take away some of the social control away from Dems. After the election we were severely hindered from any meaningful organization by being tied into the main tech companies that censored communication.
Basement campaigning is a keystone of the Democrat party these days. Don't waste your money talking to the plebs, just focus on bribes, money laundering through crypto/Ukraine, and keeping the MSM full of TDS propaganda.
They won't need to with the amount of RINOs infesting Congress these days. It'll be the same globalist shit with the "bipartisan support" sticker on it.
The fact we put him in office is 2016 and nothing was done to protect the elections federally is insane. There’s no way he didn’t see that coming. He knew they wanted him out no matter what. And when I say they I mean RINOS & Dems
Said the same thing. He won in 2016 because they didn’t expect to have to cheat so much. Every stage with Republican leadership should push election integrity hard.
Oh they cheated in all the old fashioned ways: the MSM and eGOP backstabbing.
The Ron Paul containment strategy.
If a poll has Ron Paul winning, ignore it. Better yet, talk about the #2 and #3 winners as if they were #1 and #2 right in front of their own viewers.
Ignore Ron Paul in debates or only ask him "questions" that are really just criticizing his platform
Steal his idea of micro-donations (Obama) when it starts working out. Despite Ron Paul getting more donations, just pretend Obama did it first!
Manufacture hit pieces on him with no ability to counter
Every one of these tactics were used against Trump in 2016, but they didn't count on him using Twitter to bypass their bullshit. Trump had already built up a nice Twitter following even before running, so it was the perfect weapon. He knew how to game the media so even though they despised him, they couldn't resist talking about him (court attention at all costs). This was the first candidate to truly take advantage of the decentralized flow of information via the internet rather than bending the knee to our Information Overlords in the MSM.
Besides getting the Big Tech companies to lock down their own platforms for political reasons, they ultimately fixed the voting problem by 2020, using COVID as a trojan horse to ram in their mail-in ballot scams. Even if you discount cheating, it still puts the vote in the hands of the least educated, least informed, and least motivated among the voting population. Which is exactly the people globalists want choosing their leaders.
I think for a lot of us pedes in our low 30s, Ron Paul's treatment in 2008 was our first GOPe/uniparty redpill. They pulled out all the stops to ensure a true grassroots guy could NOT be the nominee.
But Ukraine can get how many billion in weapons and cash?
Seems like the time to use rope has passed by a long time ago.
Nothing more annoying than hearing co-workers talk about their favorite sportsball variation, tho. Or the new season of Unoriginal Cocksuckers II or We Turned The Hobbits Black or whatever the hell...
Sad isn't it? My coworkers don't bring up politics for the most part. Some used to occasionally make subtle anti Trump comments. Most just talk about sports and the latest shows they've discovered on their favorite streaming service.
I have recently noticed a shift in the ones i interact with often. Few months ago they were repeating MSM talking points about Russia/Ukraine. As billions keep being sent to Ukraine and no turning point, they seem to be waking up to the idea that the media lies and corruption is everywhere. They've started making jokes about Putin and stuff Biden lies about - like student loan forgiveness and the "inflation reduction act" making inflation worse.
No idea if they voted R or D.. Honestly think many were moderate dems that now find themselves at a fork in the road. They don't seem to like Trump's personality but who knows.. They may be voting R now or in the future. Likely won't matter come 2024.. They chose to care more about sports/entertainment than our country.
Imagine how many people have felt this way throughout history, just to die for nothing.
Gnosticism is looking like the truth. I wouldn't say all of creation is "evil", but the physical universe will ALWAYS be under the control of the "fallen one" (the Demiurge/Satan).
We’ll love it, because we won’t have a choice, and the mind adapts.
At this point I doubt freedom can prevail, so it would be prudent to disengage from politics, and preferably leave. Sadly, freedom has no other sizeable refuge on Earth.
If you want to win you have to fight like you can and act like you will. Doesn't mean that alone is enough for victory, but it's a prerequisite for winning.
Trump and MAGA brought the fight, and brought the votes. Democrats brought the fraud, and the ballots. Ultimately those who count the ballots control the elections, and too many people bought into the lie that the burden of proof lies with the voter, when in fact it lies with the election officials.
AZ should have to prove that those voting machine malfunctions didn't alter the outcome of the election, nor did mixing the uncounted ballots of those voters with already counted ballots.
Trump is saying the right things, he's just not saying all of what needs to be said. We too need to force that issue of moving the burden of proof back into their court.
Not give up exactly, just withdraw from a losing battle. Save yourselves, make babies, preserve the spirit of freedom, and maybe it will bloom again in a few generations. If we survive the collapse, that is.
Yep. Biden wouldn't even bother, he would boot Harris and bring in ol Nancy nephew Newsom and then step down making him president
One LUCKY generation is going to be the one that restores HONOR and LIBERTY to this republic... I'm 45. Doubt it'll be this old wardog Marines gen that gets to sink its teeth in the machine... I wrote a book about it if yall wanna read. Would make a bad ass movie ;)
Totally. It’s this fear of maga that is driving everyone on the other side. That fear of maga is stronger than the economy of the overall our well-being of our country.
You would think, but we don’t have people organizing the right like the left does.
Our “leaders” don’t do that because in reality there is one party. We’re just being strung along as opposition to make it look legit.
There are too many RINOs. Time to burn it all down, Trump. Start your own political party. The “right” is always going to lose against the rigging unless the person they’re putting in is part of the club.
We simply don't have the numbers, or the energy. The average Republican voter is over 50. There are hardly any young people in the movement. The left has hordes of 20 somethings that believe in the cause and are ready to go at a moment's notice.
I think Joe Oltman is organising that. But remember the Canadian truckers… They were organised, determined, peaceful… And Trudeau froze their bank accounts, impounded their trucks, shot their dogs, jailed the leaders and threatened to take their kids away.
Peaceful protests achieve nothing if the government works in unison and decides not to listen.
All Republicans do this shit. The minute things get bad, they get giddy because they think that helps them. Think about inflation, for example. Did you hear a single Republican candidate giving out his plan to reduce inflation? No, all they did was say "Inflation is bad, so you should vote for me!"
Voters want to hear solutions, merely screaming "THINGS ARE BAD" isn't enough.
Not all of us... then again I got out in 2007. Some of us did some fucked up shit in Iraq and Afghanistan and it only served to let us know we can operate in utter chaos and thrive (at least stay alive and put hate on target) so if anything id say itll be fucking glorious if shit went POP.
Glory to a Marine is ... its sexual. I'll say that much. Lol fuckin love yall pede mfers
I can't imagine that the average grunt is a soy traitor like most of the generals they have are. Hopefully there are still some military generals who love this country still.
The one with the tranny admiral? How many actual decks has this admiral swabbed? You know, ship hulls take a lot of abuse, they have to be cleaned, it's hard work.. how much of that?
Oh, started in the bullshit Public Health Service Commissioned Corps. Guess I missed the chance to finish my degree and be in the NOAA Commissioned Officer Corps, show mental illness, and be given free shit.
Fuck the military, we need to form a national militia and take these faggots down, we aren’t going to win by delegating our duty to people who will never fight for us.
I looked up the numbers....he was tweeting 5 times a day on average at the start of 2016, and by the end of 2020 he was tweeting 35 times per day on average. HUGE numbers, absolute gigachad.
if only trump had a time machine and could have predicted covid, and that theyd force mail in voting then do fraud. Trump could have forced every state to change their voting laws because elections are controlled at the state level and not federal
As an outsider it seems cucked of Texas, Florida and the centre of your country to not plan and threaten secession. The east and west coasts will implode in a generation and come scamping back within 50 years, just fucking secede you pussies.
Lets have a forensic audit not run by Katie Hobbs and see who really won. The election should be done again in December seeing Katie Hobbs sabotaged it on election day.
We did, but elections are rigged here nonetheless. Either they take out the « wrong » candidates by scandals or lawfare, or they split the opposition into factions to make sure selected candidates win. Also, no one can check the vote totals beyond the local city hall (if that), beyond that it’s centralised by the government and completely opaque. To challenge an election result you’d have to consolidate results from every city (collecting them manually), assuming all cities accurately report it… Also no FOIA. In a nutshell, the insiders can make about any result they like.
He'll rant about the awful state of the country, about how his term was so successful... you know, his usual script. Then that the country needs him to fix it and he's running again and he needs us all to defeat the fraud by voting for him even though the fraud will outdo whatever voting for him we do because that's the goal of this kind of fraud.
So, basically nothing of substance that will actually effectively address the fraud.
2020 broke him, I’m starting to think. It’s understandably important to him but he never moved on enough to really think about the future and it shows.
As much as I believe there was large-scale fraud in 2020, it's now clear that this narrative has backfired against us in a large way. Not only does it alienate moderate Republicans who think you're just being a sore loser and need to move on, but you're also indirectly telling your own voters that they shouldn't bother showing up because the vote will be stolen anyway. See the problem here?
Liberals are telling their voters it's all kosher, their vote matters, they can vote from home with mail-in ballots. Conservatives are telling their voters that voting is a fraud and votes don't matter, and if they vote by mail it'll get thrown out. It's not a winning strategy at all.
Even my uncle in law lib ass Capistrano beach CA living-but-bought-a-condo-in-nevada-to-avoid-high-california-taxes-his-dumbass-voted-for told me everyone in Reno where he lives 6mon +1 day a year... literally every yard had Laxalt signs... don't see reno going blue
Soon, another rigged election that we'll lose...then Rich Barris will tell us he's guaranteed to win....then some guy on Bannons War Room will remind us daily how they are committed to "counting every legal vote"....then nothing will happen
says the guy who had his presidency stolen and then walked off without calling to arms, despite being literally the only person in the country (at that point) who had the voice to do such a thing
because we have nothing else at this point. we don't have the voice to summon a million armed boots to take our fuckin country back. he did though, and he failed, or refused, to do anything with it. that's just a fact
Remember when all those leftists occupied the state house in Wisconsin 10 or so years ago? I'm thinking we need to do that in all these ballot harvesting states.
No shit, we all gonna go "awe shucks," like we expected to win this time or have a chance next time? She gonna release a Kraken? All that false bravado with zero back up plan... again...
So the result is the same whether you vote or not, but you get to think better about it? Good luck convincing working family men who need to take time off work to vote with this one liner.
Wow! It's like we did nothing about stolen elections the last several times and now we get to deal with it every time from here until the country collapses on itself like a dying star!
Tell her not to concede. Demand an audit. If we can prove a group of Republican voters were disenfranchised by being turned away from the polls, demand the election be nullified.
They're never going to stop going after him.
Or us.
He was just in the way....
Not anymore
He was in the way of their money laundering, for sure
Who inheeb really nose?
Tell that to the j-6ers.
Or Assange...
Or Snowden...
He wasn't really in their way, the big problem was that he was our voice.
And that's what the Elites could not/cannot accept.
Frankly, he made some important changes, but nothing earth-shattering.
That's not what they hated him viscerally for.
It's that for the first time, a strong, incorruptible leader gave MAGA a voice.
Like Kari Lake.
He got them to fake a pandemic to usher in no excuse mail in voting to beat him. Making the fraud completely obvious. What we do with that is a separate issue but I'd call that pretty earth shattering.
Trump didn't create the pandemic or the no excuse mail ins.
That was done because he had a very dangerous voice, and the MAGA movement was growing exponentially.
They had to stop it, immediately.
And hence, plandemic and vaxx.
That's what I'm saying.
He fundamentally changed relations with China (while in office). He went 4 years without war. He stopped the rocket man, and for a time started to mend relations between North and South Korea. He got NATO countries to pay their fair share. Gas prices were driven to a recent time low, and the stock market climb from the whole time he was in office until he left. He stopped the lip service about our southern border and began to build a wall severely limiting the flood of illegals. HE began a process of reducing regulation by requiring a 2 for 1 policy for every new regulation; eliminate 2. These are just what I remember of the top of my head - seems earth shattering? But, your right about the our voice part.
Understood, all these things were great, but many were the result of common-sense governing.
His North Korean meeting, however, was something I thought was the greatest thing he did. He showed courage, he demonstrated to the world that America was once again a force for good, and he could have made the biggest differences for millions of Koreans living there.
But all said, the biggest threat Trump posed was that MAGA was growing exponentially.
He was never in their way. Nothing is in their way.
So it's up to us to end this before it's too late.
revolt
downvoted by shills lol
Think it may be too late at this point... only way out is for the next generation to see how bad it gets and then revolt, the Baby Boomers made weak generations, and it's time to reap what was sown.
Let's just hope we don't enter into a dark age in the meantime.
The next generation? What are you even talking about? The Republicans have nothing. The Democrats have preschool all the way up to the presidency and every lever of power in between all the way across the world. They even have the church. You have nothing, you have lost.
Really practising your psyop training, huh?
I'd give that a 4/10.
As long as you're still drawing breath, it's never too late to conquer.
I am waiting for word from higher up before I start doing anything. You start "revolts" now, you'll get us all locked down and losing our "rights" that we have right now. Don't do anything violent revolting. Peaceful (not antifa-peaceful either) protesting okay - nothing violent.
Or our children.
If Caesar never crossed the Rubicon, he'd have been executed and nothing more than a footnote in Roman history.
Caesar crossing the Rubicon was a foregone conclusion. That decadent system was begging for either him or Pompei to become the tyrant.
We're nearing that point, but we're not there yet.
And we should all hope we never get there.
I don't know. This democracy thing is looking pretty shit in comparison to the tyranny of the Roman empire.
Yup, I hate democracy almost as much as I hate the American empire.
Let's go back to being a Republic. A Federal Republic, no less.
If you disagree with this, I'm going to ask you to change your username.
And there’s no Roman Empire to speak of today. Lasted much longer thank the American experiment has so far.
The Roman Republic lasted longer than our Federal Republic.
Theirs made it almost 500 years until descending into empire. Ours only lasted 72 years, but we still have the chance to restore ours.
pretending Caesar was somehow not a beloved man is fun
Beloved by whom?
I may be pretty well read on Roman history, so please give more detail than the previous non-sequitur.
I'll make it easy: the man was an aspirational tyrant and his officers loved him because he rewarded them well with spoils. He also won battles, which tends to be popular.
The above was almost not true, as he got lucky a few times.
Gotta give him credit for how he beat Pompeii, because he was the underdog there.
These shill lovers here don’t have a clue what war would mean. We’d get picked to death by vultures from the outside while destroying our productivity, our big advantage over everyone. It’s a shill theme that has won out here and it sucks.
Then run for President tough guy.
Someone ran for president campaigning on draining the swamp, and “lock her up”, all of that. What happened?
The swamp is deeper than anyone thought. We have corrupt politicians on both sides. All 3 letter branches are corrupt, a corrupt SCOTUS, a corrupt media, a corrupt world.
5D chess. Two more weeks.
Not deeper than anyone thought. Lots of us who have been studying the machinations of the Deep State have known about it for decades but were called all kinds of names when we sought to bring attention to it. Now you reap what you sow.
I thought it was that corrupt
It will be true going forward if it wasn't true last week. The days of voting our way out of this evil are long over.
Ah yes. (((Jared)))
Boop.
There is no "overwhelming" the fraud. No matter how much turnout we generate, they will simply drag out the "counting" until they can generate enough votes to just barely overcome it and win.
Trump didn't win in 2016 because he overwhelmed the fraud. The dems were so overconfident that it was "her turn" that they didn't put their full effort into the steal...they didn't think they needed to.
We need a new strategy.
Very well said, agreed!
The FBI decided not to investigate Hillary. Do you think that President Trump had the ability to arrest Hillary?
In your own words what does Drain the Swamp mean?
Not hiring John Bolton LOL Mike Pence, the former head of the CIA as secretary of state, pushing the creepy vaccine, want me to keep going?
As commander in Chief of the military he could have brought Hillary up on treason for selling uranium to foreign powers and selling state secrets.
Soon after the election he stopped the "lock her up" chants at rallies.
You do not deserve to have more downvotes that upvotes.
This is a very accurate observation.
He literally dropped the issue before even becoming President...
"Forget it. [Lock her up] plays good before the election. Now we don't care." -Trump, December 2016
It was never intended to happen. It was always meant to be a campaign slogan, nothing more.
That's too much to pin on one guy. Not really fair.
Shut up faggot. You are not half the man he was. He owes you nothing.
Run for president? Trump doesn't need to be president at this point he has so much power if he would just use it to consolidate and coordinate us. No one else is in that position. He could tell us all to go on our phones and change our default search engine away from Google and that company would lose hundreds of billions overnight. His economic power and influence is unparalleled. He has an army but he refuses to use any of it for whatever reason.
Maybe he's controlled opposition.
There are some people who think Trump is controlled opposition. I see the logic, but I haven’t seen any evidence. I lean to him not being. Regardless, I don’t think he has what it takes to REALLY drain the swamp. Here we are getting conquered by the globalists… the blue states are effectively conquered….and we lack true leaders or the proper fortitude to stop it. The globalists are gonna kick things into high gear in 2023. Maybe the pain they inflict will be the catalyst we need. I campaigned for three Republicans this election but I am now certain voting harder isn’t going to save us.
That thought makes me sick to my stomach.
I think Trump had a pretty good idea of what he was getting into, but perhaps he overestimated the amount of support he'd get from "republicans".
Especially the ones he himself appointed.
Absolutely.
Only silver lining in Az is it opens up Kari Lake for VP. Final fight for all the marbles.
You're not allowed to suggest that here
What could he have done that would be considered all the way in? They literally created a pandemic to stop him.
You don’t think Obama and his weather underground buddies weren’t prepared to detonate those pipe bombs?
Those bombs were never supposed to go off. They had a 1 hour kitchen timer on them but were placed a day before.
Or us
Or us.
its not just him, theyll go after any republican.
Trump is a better leader
I love Trump, but I just can't be a part of another rigged game. I will focus on my own town and try to live my best life. Getting involved in national politics is over for me since the GOP is powerless and gutless to stop the cheating.
You cannot escape it. None of us can. There is no rock to crawl under. There are ways to fight and win, but it requires that we adopt different strategies than we'd like or imagined having before. Once we all understand that, the path forward will become clear.
A different strategy would be to try and outcheat them or resort to violence. We are not cheaters and pulling out your guns will just get you killed or jailed unless you got everybody helping you. Sadly, we don't have that help. People are too comfortable. It will take decades for the weak to die off so that we can rebuild. I will be dead by then.
“Defending ourselves will just get us killed” - George Washington, never
George Washington fought with honor and for men of honor. We don't have those people in politics now.
I guess we’ll have to just turn to the people rather than politicians, the people whom:
Governour Morris, signatory to the US constitution, described as “King” of America,
And who George Washington described as “The only keepers” of the constitution.
Our nation is a nation of self government. We handed over every little responsibility, authority, and power for the sake of convenience. Well, it’s becoming rather inconvenient, and it’s time we took it back.
They will never do so willingly. So be it.
We have a few. You know which ones. It's very few, but not zero.
Washington wasn't just some guy
Oh, I guess we should just go to the gulag then. My bad.
i mean ill personally die at my front door but without distinguished and competent leadership we will all have to accept that
True, he was some guy that did something
no he was a highly influential and educated man who was already a leader then became a revolutionary with other extremely educated and influential people
I had the same realization this election... It's done, or at least I'm done. I'll be dead or too old to give a shit soon. This shit isn't getting fixed for decades unless some game changing event occurs soon. Otherwise it's the slow spin down the drain...
There aren't decades left. The third world invasion guarantees that.
To cheat you need money.
The billions go into the more authoritarian side in favor of centralized power because that is the easiest way to ram through multinational agendas.
This pairs up perfectly with the "jabroni" role the republicans serve which is ostensibly fortress america, even though it hasn't been since the hard gangster right wingers in the 50's and 60's. In reality they just grift off of american pride to get their RNC donations and roll the fuck over to act as a fake counterbalance.
The first step is get the fuck out of the red hat vs blue hat system. Its controlled and designed to maintain status quo. They are all your enemy.
Second step is stop thinking laws will save you. Their strategy is to infect key positions in the state such that laws matter to only you (not them). Once this is in place they will tell you up front they are about to break the law, do it, and throw you in jail for life for pointing it out (or doing thr same)
The country is fragmenting and its getting to the point where people really do not have any legal recourse to stop people that are hated from repeatedly being installed into power.
This is playing with fire and it doesn't end well for them in the long run.
That sounds good but there's mathematical proof that our election system WILL result in a two party duopoly. Trying to make a third will fail, it has nothing to do with how right that might be and everything to do with math. You run within either party or you lose. There's a reason there are negligible independents.
Best bet is, like Trump, running from within one party and doing everything to take it over. You can take over a party, but you can't start a new one without chaos on that side for at least a decade. We, very obviously, can't afford that.
Why not? It's better to have the Dems win a couple back-to-back elections and then have a MAGA party ready to dethrone the GOP, rather than continue in the GOP which is a den of snakes.
You’re thinking of Duverge’s Law. It’s true only in first-past-the-post voting systems. Changing to another type of voting can prevent that tendency and make 3rd parties relevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law
Elections in the US are first-past-the-post, and you're not changing that without a constitutional amendment which would be impossible in this climate. Think about it, why would the two ruling parties vote in favor of losing their duopoly?
Someone gets it finally
They're going to pass all kinds of homo shit thru the house and senate like banning guns, probably free speech, mandating you chop your balls off and go trans, mandating yearly clot shots or no paychecks, mandating you house some illegals. I can't wait. LFG
Assault weapons ban/buyback is top on their agenda.
I agree with this. They are going to inflict a lot on pain on us on 2023. It may be enough to force us to act with new ideas and renewed resolve.
You beat them at their own game. Only then can you change the laws and get shit back on track.
When I moved to this town long ago I'd live in many places with lots of different rules about registering to vote. So I took everything: drivers license, current power bill, credit card bill, birth certificate ... everything. They signed me up.
Fast forward to the first election I voted in in this state: I again took all kinds of paperwork since they hadn't given me a vote ID card like in other states. The old lady at the sign-in desk laughed when I started pulling documents out of my folder: "You don't need any of that," she said. "Just gimme your name."
I was shocked. "I could give you any name. How do you know I'm giving you my real name? What if someone has already come in here and gave my name?"
She laughed again. "Oh, that kind of thing won't happen here," said the old blue-haired lady in this blue town in this blue state.
Fast forward to when I recently went to the town office to TAKE MY NAME OFF THE VOTER ROLLS. [Yes, I really did that ... after being harassed 5-8 times per day for over a year by Demoncrats calling wanting to bring me absentee ballots, come over to help me fill one out, pick it up and deliver it for me ... Bullshit. I complained to the town, to the state, nobody gave a shit. So, I'm done. Maybe I'll sign up again next time.]
Sooo, when I went in to take my name off the rolls I had to submit a signed statement and bring a ton of ID documents and answer a bunch of questions to verify who I am.... yet for voting in this town I ONLY had to state my name?
What shit.
Just give up and continue to give 40% of everything you earn to pedophiles in Washington DC? No thanks.
How are you going to make a difference when they cheat to win and face no consequences? You would be better off working more to make more money so that you don't notice the 40% deduction. I love your spirit, but supporting a rigged game is crazy. Better to starve the Republicans of all funds, so they have a reason to fight to save their own positions.
Yet. Face no consequences yet. The more the cheat goes on, the more obvious it becomes. The more obvious it becomes, the more people get red pilled. Hell, I thought elections were on the up in up until 2020. It was only after that election did I realize that 2016 had the fix in for Hillary, but the part they were missing back then was the "stop the count and inject more Xeroxed ballots panic button". They fixed that in 2020.
Keep Fighting. The swamp has painted themselves into a corner. The swamp no longer has a long term winning strategy. The only way they can continue to hold power is to continue to cheat. The more they cheat the more they are exposed. The more they are exposed, the less the populous has faith in elections. And when enough no longer have faith in elections, then new leadership will be selected via other methods (God save us all).
Our only losing move is to roll over and just stay silent as they get away with it.
Have you looked at any local newscast? Listened to top Conservative radio? Heard a peep out of the Republicans. Not one of them is talking about the Democrats cheating. It's bizarre. They are afraid to call them out. There is no pushback for the fraud. Even if there was, the DOJ, the FBI, and even the military are no help. There is no magical super hero that is going to fly in and make the cheaters pay for their misdeeds. We are in a life cycle that took 200 years for weak men to make a weak country. It may take a hundred years for strong men to build it back up again.
They are afraid of being called “election deniers”. They dont want to be grouped in with us crazy “conspiracy theorists”. That, or they are in on the steal.
The last part.
Fear of being called names (why did we do away with dueling? They "duel" in a sort of way, in the 'hood, just less honorable) or being in on it [the stealing].
Why not both?
A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit in.
This is where they used Q to kill us. Right now a subset of this board is full of flat-earthers talking about lizard men and clones. And the machine did a wonderful job of making sure they and the grifters got the spotlight, and with it the association. “The election was stolen: says the guys raiding pizza places and looking for Jewish space lazers. Thiers evidence of voting fraud: says the con artists ‘releasing the krakken!’, frauds bigots and kooks, all of them.” And they hammered that till the layman began to associate the one with the other. Those stations with with wider audience, if they talk about these things, the audience starts to cringe. The sponsors start looking dodgy. So they don’t.
A lot of people on here, feeling righteously angry, said “fuck optics, they don’t matter.” And they did. They always fucking did and that battle was conceded to the people who are experts at using those to win.
Until they ban/stop tools that can expose them.. freedom of information comes to mind. We've seen this phenomenon happen as of recent with some social media outlets. We've also seen this type of "censorship" in other countries. Its very much possible and those who don't believe it are in denial. Talk to any immigrant who came from a communist country and they'll tell you what's up.
Local always has been the way. Work your elections and be involved.
This is a revelation to people who have known about our federal system their entire lives but, somehow, convinced themselves that electing one guy president would be all that was required to reverse a century of progressivism and half a century of rank corruption.
It starts at "home". And if you don't particularly like your "home" but you live there for economic reasons or you're struggling, save and get the hell out.
Vigorously research where you're going to call home.
I recall sometime in the mid 2000s in my little town I grew up in that neighbors grew older and the people that moved in just didn't talk to one another... it was strange.
I'm now in the former category. Gonna move somewhere, try and make a difference in a place I feel comfortable investing my time, money, and energy into.
That's the way. Good luck with it, Pede.
Thanks. I predict the next decade will be the decade of the "carpet baggers".
We have the technology to be so interconnected, yet, as time goes on, it seems like we are less connected to each other in the ways that are actually significant moreso than ever.
Honest question, what do you mean "getting involved in national politics"? What were you doing that you wont be doing this time?
I sent some pretty decent money to MAGA politicians to help them get elected. Then, I probably drove friends and family nuts to make sure they voted. My daily conversations with my friends was about politics and not much else. The efforts have not been rewarding at all. I'm done.
Well props to you for the energy. I think there has to be other things that are useful that we can put our energy towards that can shift things culturally and politically. You definitely dont need to be driving family nuts or only talking about politics.
Pacing yourself is important or this shit will drive you crazy.
There is no way to say there has been no effect at all. But being burnt out is being burnt out.
This is true.
No way he can ever get to 270 now. They know how to stop the count.
Yep and people are okay with it now
Some of us are just resigned to accept that they control the counting and voting won’t work anymore.
Still we need to vote for our local elections.
If we dont vote they dont have to cheat.
If they dont have to cheat there is no evidence of cheating.
This stuff is important.
They cheat, but we can cheat better than them.
At least he's acknowledging it, I suppose.
He must know that they are planning the same thing in 2024. I don't feel like he would just waste so much time and energy running for reelection without some sort of plan to stop fraud.
He already wasted so much time and energy running for reelection in 2020 without some sort of plan to stop the fraud.
Lol.. He was the president with a lot of power and couldn't do anything. What plan he possibly could have in 2024?now all the government agencies can work in unison and no one will call them out. It also looks like after 2018, 2020 and 2022, they have mastered the art of steal.. They have gotten so much better and efficient at it that no plan will work anyway.
Yea the whole excuse people say about having the military behind him is a joke. Why would they allow 2018, 2020 and 2022 fraud?
Because they have mouths to feed and will stomp on anyone's neck that gets in the way.
Keep in mind, they couldn't even handle rock dwellers in countries that wipe their ass with their bare hands. Wait til these dumbass low IQ servants fuck around and find out. The largest armed army is US civilians. Thank God for our 2A and our founders.
We have land. We have guns. They will shit their government issued chonies when we organize. They're dead-ass head shaved goons. They haven't won a war in almost 70 years.
Tree of Liberty is parched. Thirsting. In our lifetime? Maybe not. In my son's or his children? Probably. They will be ready and it will be glorious. History will tell that McVeigh was an underachiever and peaked too soon.
they keep fucking around but they don't seem to be finding out. how much worse could things possibly get?
white minority is basically here at this point, and will exponentially get worse as we turn into a brown shithole day by day. stolen elections. destroyed economy, rapidly vanishing middle class. wages have been completely stagnant for decades despite record profits year over year. small business industry is dead. the first amendment is dead, the second is basically just a shell of what it should be, and will only get worse. our women are completely worthless broken whores. our children are flooded with cult fetishistic tranny and anti-white propaganda from birth. our wars are fake and gay and serve globalist interests, in fact everything we do serves purely only globohomo interests, wef interests and climate change dogshit interests, all of which have only one consistent effect: the diminishing of our quality of life... i could go on, and on, and on. so, when do they find out?
It won’t be in this life.
I've been saying that for awhile now, usually to mixed results.
He's no Marvin Heemeyer... But I think McVeigh (assuming he wasn't some asset running a flag) & Uncle Ted (Kazcynski, not Nudge) were in some way able to see beyond the bullshit.
McVeigh said he didn't know there was a daycare center in the Oklahoma City complex, didn't he? The mistake on both sides at Waco was not thinking of the children. I suppose there is a prevailing attitude, even in warfare, people try to maintain a set of morals - to draw a parallel - like Mike from Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul - no innocents / kids, that sorta thing.
The Uniparty doesn't seem to care for such subtleties. Hilldawg wanted to drone Assange just because he leaded an actual journalistic outfit that accepted whistleblowers and leaks? Obammy droned people with scant evidence. A guy that talked to a guy who was linked to ISIS? It's depressing to think about, really.
Ep. 1510 Syria, Trump, and the Kurds: Scott Horton Tells the Story(3:33)
Ep. 1839 War All the Time: The Perpetual War on Terror(11:46)
Mark Perry on Trump’s Decision to Withdraw from Syria(34:06)
Gareth Porter on the Military’s Efforts to Subvert the Afghan Peace Deal(35:05)
Ep. 1970 September 11 Remembered, Minus the Propaganda(21:12)
as long as he runs on an america first and anti-globalism platform, sign me up, desantis is not an option, fuck the RNC
As opposed to where we'd be without him?
Without him we would be in the middle of Hillary's second term and our country would be speaking Chinese.
Honestly we’d be better off with Hillary than Biden. She’s power hungry, less likely to be controlled by others, Biden is a dementia addled puppet with Obama, Xi, Schwab, and Soros hands firmly up his ass.
They are definitely making up for lost time.
and now we're speaking spanish. much better.
What makes you think that? I mean, I'd love some Q meme-tier bombs to be dropped but it's almost certaintly just about his run, probably going to claim that since we won the house it was cause of his endorsements and yada yada.
I’m hoping so.
Third party?
Third party is the best way to guarantee a Democrat win.
yep. it would be a complete wipe out. sadly. a third party lead by trump wouldn't appeal to democrats, all it'd do is split the vote
i say this while realizing both paths are completely hopeless and pointless though. it wouldn't really change anything one way or another, voting is no longer a path to self-governance for sane white men, period
Not sure why the downvotes. It is. It mathematically is. Every third party in US history destroys that side until one is ground into dust, and it takes a while. WEF would just be laughing at us while their cronies destroy the USA in the meantime. Look at what they got done in just 2 years. Imagine 12.
Does it really matter at this point, though? No matter what candidate we have the Dems will cheat their way to a win.
Hopefully not.
Hopefully he just says, "Go."
open season on libshits, no bag limit
Should I fill up my car tomorrow morning?
you should lead by example
I think we need someone more high profile to move the masses. I’ll be there.
I’ll be there as well
You think the riots around that were organic? They had billion-dollar NGOs organizing those.
they don't have anything more than we do, except willingness to go out and actually do shit. organic or not, they still showed up.
They have less then we do. No jobs, no families, no prospects.
It was always going to take more to provoke us then them.
You almost nailed it: no consequences.
just sounds like coping to me
Most of them, yes. Don’t discount the ones that are paid to start shit though. If it gets started it can take off.
Maybe they can be pushed into that scenario again, and people like us can actually react.
we had an entire summer to react and did nothing
I'll break Chauvin out, you get the fentanyl. u/Mungo, wear your Sunday best cause you're going to be all over the news, bud!
If you look at the prison where the J6 people are being kept, it's not that large of a complex, assuming there isn't a shit-ton of sub-level construction. Just a thought.
Apparently Mun is gonna go become a sacrifice
Yeah, but we go to work busy providing for our families. We aren't going to do shit until we can't do that....
last time we unified, one of us was killed, and a bunch of others had their lives ruined.
who's going to lead then? cause clearly it won't be trump, and i don't see anyone else even considering volunteering. the whole thing is a pipe dream
two years of pedo joe, two cycles of election cheating, two years of masking, two years of insanity, numerous lives ruined over vax mandates, etc... we're already at the significantly deteriorated stage, people just keep accepting it as the new normal and saying "when it gets worse..."
This, things are bad and we're all disappointed, but things can be a lot worse. Frankly many of us have too much to lose until the system does in fact falls completely. No one should stay quiet, we're all within our right to express our beliefs. We see what is happening before our very eyes and can make our own conclusions. However, making any drastic decisions based on what we think can happen is just not practical, let alone announcing it on a public forum..
That wasn't unification. That was aimless tourism.
True
I remember a similar thread that talked about that a couple years ago. Something about "Will Be Wild". How'd that wind up again?
i'm sure the people who got locked up and abandoned by trump thought it was wild
Trump was pretty open about not liking people who fail / get caught. What's he supposed to do sacrifice himself over a bunch of people that accomplished nothing and didn't even take advantage of COVID to wear masks. Trump is doing what he can and that's working to take away some of the social control away from Dems. After the election we were severely hindered from any meaningful organization by being tied into the main tech companies that censored communication.
That’s not exactly loyalty.
pretty ironic for a guy complaining about desantis' loyalty lately, huh?
Will you follow?
like the people still locked up for jan 6th? pass. feel free to go on right ahead, since you're such a badass
faggot
keep crying, larper
"Someone do something!!!""
"NOOOOOO NOT THAT!!! you have to play by their rules!!"
do something then
That's the real question. Because we both know you're a pathetic little bitch.
Lone wolf is the safest way. Your friend will rat you out for a reduced sentence.
You need a lot of lone wolfs though, and there’s the rub. Cause the other guys are in packs.
Just need different strategies. Reminds me of that Finnish sniper in WW2 that took out over 500 enemy soldiers by himself.
Yes
Blackmail?
We've heard that one before lmao
Enough "tough guy" words. Shit or get off the pot.
As if we didn't see this coming when Hobbs refused to debate, or even leave the house.
And when she refused to recuse herself from overseeing this friggin election! !
Strange, isn't it?
Basement campaigning is a keystone of the Democrat party these days. Don't waste your money talking to the plebs, just focus on bribes, money laundering through crypto/Ukraine, and keeping the MSM full of TDS propaganda.
Its almost like the voters don't really matter anymore.
And they’ll take it away from you again in 2024
That's the idea.
We've become hopelessly corrupt.
Worry not my fren, the economy will get worse. They'll rule over dirt!
They don't need us anymore....
Watch them take the house too
They might allow us to have the house so they can say "sEe itS nOt RigGed"
Democrats don't concede power. It's not in their DNA.
They won't need to with the amount of RINOs infesting Congress these days. It'll be the same globalist shit with the "bipartisan support" sticker on it.
The fact we put him in office is 2016 and nothing was done to protect the elections federally is insane. There’s no way he didn’t see that coming. He knew they wanted him out no matter what. And when I say they I mean RINOS & Dems
I always said election integrity should have been his NUMBER 1 priority or he wasn't getting re-elected... Well, I guess I was right.
S.1469 - Prevention of Foreign Interference with Elections Act of 2019
Trump did that.
Are problems are domestic these days.
Said the same thing. He won in 2016 because they didn’t expect to have to cheat so much. Every stage with Republican leadership should push election integrity hard.
Oh they cheated in all the old fashioned ways: the MSM and eGOP backstabbing. The Ron Paul containment strategy.
Every one of these tactics were used against Trump in 2016, but they didn't count on him using Twitter to bypass their bullshit. Trump had already built up a nice Twitter following even before running, so it was the perfect weapon. He knew how to game the media so even though they despised him, they couldn't resist talking about him (court attention at all costs). This was the first candidate to truly take advantage of the decentralized flow of information via the internet rather than bending the knee to our Information Overlords in the MSM.
Besides getting the Big Tech companies to lock down their own platforms for political reasons, they ultimately fixed the voting problem by 2020, using COVID as a trojan horse to ram in their mail-in ballot scams. Even if you discount cheating, it still puts the vote in the hands of the least educated, least informed, and least motivated among the voting population. Which is exactly the people globalists want choosing their leaders.
I think for a lot of us pedes in our low 30s, Ron Paul's treatment in 2008 was our first GOPe/uniparty redpill. They pulled out all the stops to ensure a true grassroots guy could NOT be the nominee.
But Ukraine can get how many billion in weapons and cash?
Seems like the time to use rope has passed by a long time ago.
Nothing more annoying than hearing co-workers talk about their favorite sportsball variation, tho. Or the new season of Unoriginal Cocksuckers II or We Turned The Hobbits Black or whatever the hell...
Sad isn't it? My coworkers don't bring up politics for the most part. Some used to occasionally make subtle anti Trump comments. Most just talk about sports and the latest shows they've discovered on their favorite streaming service.
I have recently noticed a shift in the ones i interact with often. Few months ago they were repeating MSM talking points about Russia/Ukraine. As billions keep being sent to Ukraine and no turning point, they seem to be waking up to the idea that the media lies and corruption is everywhere. They've started making jokes about Putin and stuff Biden lies about - like student loan forgiveness and the "inflation reduction act" making inflation worse.
No idea if they voted R or D.. Honestly think many were moderate dems that now find themselves at a fork in the road. They don't seem to like Trump's personality but who knows.. They may be voting R now or in the future. Likely won't matter come 2024.. They chose to care more about sports/entertainment than our country.
GET THIS PEDE A BRICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s not up to him. Elections are controlled by the states
No one can literally be that stupid. Hmmm
Elections are run on the state level. So what can the President do?
S.1469 - Prevention of Foreign Interference with Elections Act of 2019
This was all over in 2020.
We were just refusing, rightfully, to lose hope.
January 6th protestors are still in prison without charge.
Im losing hope.
Imagine how many people have felt this way throughout history, just to die for nothing.
Gnosticism is looking like the truth. I wouldn't say all of creation is "evil", but the physical universe will ALWAYS be under the control of the "fallen one" (the Demiurge/Satan).
Yeah but how about a 24/7 live surveillance grid, where you can only buy and sell if you listen to your genocidal masters?
We’ll love it, because we won’t have a choice, and the mind adapts.
At this point I doubt freedom can prevail, so it would be prudent to disengage from politics, and preferably leave. Sadly, freedom has no other sizeable refuge on Earth.
Trump was telling us we would win, both 2020 election challenge and these midterms. He either lied or was willfully ignorant.
If you want to win you have to fight like you can and act like you will. Doesn't mean that alone is enough for victory, but it's a prerequisite for winning.
Trump and MAGA brought the fight, and brought the votes. Democrats brought the fraud, and the ballots. Ultimately those who count the ballots control the elections, and too many people bought into the lie that the burden of proof lies with the voter, when in fact it lies with the election officials.
AZ should have to prove that those voting machine malfunctions didn't alter the outcome of the election, nor did mixing the uncounted ballots of those voters with already counted ballots.
Trump is saying the right things, he's just not saying all of what needs to be said. We too need to force that issue of moving the burden of proof back into their court.
They want you to lose hope and give up.
Giving up wont make things any better.
Not give up exactly, just withdraw from a losing battle. Save yourselves, make babies, preserve the spirit of freedom, and maybe it will bloom again in a few generations. If we survive the collapse, that is.
And the mods here won’t sticky their names or how to help their families.
Looking out the window, sipping tea, chuckling as he says "Definitely saw that one coming!"
Really bad is an understatement.
Hahha wait till he gets 20% of the vote in 2024 and everyone buys it
Trump gets 100 million votes. Biden gets 250 million votes. No one questions it. The media celebrates historic voter turnout.
Yep. Biden wouldn't even bother, he would boot Harris and bring in ol Nancy nephew Newsom and then step down making him president
One LUCKY generation is going to be the one that restores HONOR and LIBERTY to this republic... I'm 45. Doubt it'll be this old wardog Marines gen that gets to sink its teeth in the machine... I wrote a book about it if yall wanna read. Would make a bad ass movie ;)
I saw an article today about him doing exactly this, but now. hahahahahaha
We’re in deep economic depression but somehow Biden is even more popular then ever and nobody wants any change. It’s beyond infuriating.
Totally. It’s this fear of maga that is driving everyone on the other side. That fear of maga is stronger than the economy of the overall our well-being of our country.
Optics. Fucking. Matter. A lesson we did not learn.
There are a lot of people out there scared of what they think MAGA ia.
578 trillion votes, you mean!
You forgot the part where Desantis gets 200 million
Time for those in AZ to March. This is ridiculous and a disgrace.
You would think, but we don’t have people organizing the right like the left does.
Our “leaders” don’t do that because in reality there is one party. We’re just being strung along as opposition to make it look legit.
There are too many RINOs. Time to burn it all down, Trump. Start your own political party. The “right” is always going to lose against the rigging unless the person they’re putting in is part of the club.
No. It's because the left normalizes violence. It's mainly an intimidation tactic.
The right doesn't need to use violence.
Take the Republican governors and secede from the federal government and blockade the blue states and federal land.
It won't be long before they start negotiating.
You think that can be accomplished without violence?
We simply don't have the numbers, or the energy. The average Republican voter is over 50. There are hardly any young people in the movement. The left has hordes of 20 somethings that believe in the cause and are ready to go at a moment's notice.
I think Joe Oltman is organising that. But remember the Canadian truckers… They were organised, determined, peaceful… And Trudeau froze their bank accounts, impounded their trucks, shot their dogs, jailed the leaders and threatened to take their kids away.
Peaceful protests achieve nothing if the government works in unison and decides not to listen.
The way he says it like well that sucks for you guys!
And the “Wow!” feels like “OMG!” or “No way!”
Are you surprised? I’m not surprised.
All Republicans do this shit. The minute things get bad, they get giddy because they think that helps them. Think about inflation, for example. Did you hear a single Republican candidate giving out his plan to reduce inflation? No, all they did was say "Inflation is bad, so you should vote for me!"
Voters want to hear solutions, merely screaming "THINGS ARE BAD" isn't enough.
Trump’s comment seems a little… casual. Doesn’t it? “Really bad” is not how I’d describe it.
Trump doesnt talk like commentators on this site.
almost like maybe the military should step in. WINK WINK!
Cucked blm loving military?
You forgot clot shotted
They destroyed America so thoroughly that there's no coming back.
The world is literally a giant slave plantation again. Mission accomplished, Rothschild/Rockefeller PARASITES!
Not all of us... then again I got out in 2007. Some of us did some fucked up shit in Iraq and Afghanistan and it only served to let us know we can operate in utter chaos and thrive (at least stay alive and put hate on target) so if anything id say itll be fucking glorious if shit went POP.
Glory to a Marine is ... its sexual. I'll say that much. Lol fuckin love yall pede mfers
Lay off the alcohol grandpa
Because I have a bong and a glass of whiskey does not mean I'm not lethal, nicca
I can't imagine that the average grunt is a soy traitor like most of the generals they have are. Hopefully there are still some military generals who love this country still.
They were retired under Obama.
Like General Flynn
Is there a place that tells accurate timeline of the story of what General Flynn did?
The one with the tranny admiral? How many actual decks has this admiral swabbed? You know, ship hulls take a lot of abuse, they have to be cleaned, it's hard work.. how much of that?
Oh, started in the bullshit Public Health Service Commissioned Corps. Guess I missed the chance to finish my degree and be in the NOAA Commissioned Officer Corps, show mental illness, and be given free shit.
the military is more likely to step in to stop Trump
*militia
Fuck the military, we need to form a national militia and take these faggots down, we aren’t going to win by delegating our duty to people who will never fight for us.
Go back to great awakening qtard
they are all vaxxxed now.
If only we had somebody in charge who could do something about it instead of fucking around for 4 years .....
man his twitter fingers were on fire tho
I looked up the numbers....he was tweeting 5 times a day on average at the start of 2016, and by the end of 2020 he was tweeting 35 times per day on average. HUGE numbers, absolute gigachad.
put on your thinking cap dude
Schumer warns Trump: Intel officials 'have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you'
GEOTUS, you can get 90,000,000 votes next time and still lose. His 74,000,000 in 2020 would have smoked Reagan’s landslide.
As an outsider it seems cucked of Texas, Florida and the centre of your country to not plan and threaten secession. The east and west coasts will implode in a generation and come scamping back within 50 years, just fucking secede you pussies.
Lets have a forensic audit not run by Katie Hobbs and see who really won. The election should be done again in December seeing Katie Hobbs sabotaged it on election day.
Another audit? How’d that go last time?
The votes are there. It’s the voters who aren’t. Until you get rid of universal mail in voting, it’ll keep happening.
yep. However, have hope. France had mail in voting. And even those faggots got rid of it.
We did, but elections are rigged here nonetheless. Either they take out the « wrong » candidates by scandals or lawfare, or they split the opposition into factions to make sure selected candidates win. Also, no one can check the vote totals beyond the local city hall (if that), beyond that it’s centralised by the government and completely opaque. To challenge an election result you’d have to consolidate results from every city (collecting them manually), assuming all cities accurately report it… Also no FOIA. In a nutshell, the insiders can make about any result they like.
I wonder what he is going to say tomorrow.
"I'm running in 2024!"
Nothing else of consequence and it won't be enough. That's my bet.
literally 2 more years of rallies and newsmax interviews lol
I hate to say it, but it’s cringey if it’s just an announcement after his post today saying it will change history.
He'll rant about the awful state of the country, about how his term was so successful... you know, his usual script. Then that the country needs him to fix it and he's running again and he needs us all to defeat the fraud by voting for him even though the fraud will outdo whatever voting for him we do because that's the goal of this kind of fraud.
So, basically nothing of substance that will actually effectively address the fraud.
We'll both see within 24 hours.
spez: I was right. We're fucked.
WWE wrestling.
gayfabe
2020 broke him, I’m starting to think. It’s understandably important to him but he never moved on enough to really think about the future and it shows.
Fuck off with that low energy shit.
Only liberals say “move on” from theft.
As much as I believe there was large-scale fraud in 2020, it's now clear that this narrative has backfired against us in a large way. Not only does it alienate moderate Republicans who think you're just being a sore loser and need to move on, but you're also indirectly telling your own voters that they shouldn't bother showing up because the vote will be stolen anyway. See the problem here?
Liberals are telling their voters it's all kosher, their vote matters, they can vote from home with mail-in ballots. Conservatives are telling their voters that voting is a fraud and votes don't matter, and if they vote by mail it'll get thrown out. It's not a winning strategy at all.
It's gonna be wild, and a trap, and I'm glad you are all here to fall into it. ADIOS!
Even my uncle in law lib ass Capistrano beach CA living-but-bought-a-condo-in-nevada-to-avoid-high-california-taxes-his-dumbass-voted-for told me everyone in Reno where he lives 6mon +1 day a year... literally every yard had Laxalt signs... don't see reno going blue
It was known Nevada has a Dem/union ballot operation.
Soon, another rigged election that we'll lose...then Rich Barris will tell us he's guaranteed to win....then some guy on Bannons War Room will remind us daily how they are committed to "counting every legal vote"....then nothing will happen
fuck you, do something.
says the guy who had his presidency stolen and then walked off without calling to arms, despite being literally the only person in the country (at that point) who had the voice to do such a thing
yall talk so tough on social media.
trump was screaming every day the election was stolen. he cant refuse the leave the white house.
because we have nothing else at this point. we don't have the voice to summon a million armed boots to take our fuckin country back. he did though, and he failed, or refused, to do anything with it. that's just a fact
In fairness if he had tried that his secret service agents would have insured he didn’t leave the room without a bag on his head.
Remember when all those leftists occupied the state house in Wisconsin 10 or so years ago? I'm thinking we need to do that in all these ballot harvesting states.
Smells like shit, I tell you…
Lin wood incoming
No shit, we all gonna go "awe shucks," like we expected to win this time or have a chance next time? She gonna release a Kraken? All that false bravado with zero back up plan... again...
Why vote?
Because if you dont vote then they win fair and square.
So the result is the same whether you vote or not, but you get to think better about it? Good luck convincing working family men who need to take time off work to vote with this one liner.
Holy shit. A mad lad genius everybody. Truly speaks words of wisdom.
I thought things were great out there, with stolen elections, outrageous inflation, risk of ww3, looking depression, and what not.
Now Trump has finally opened my eyes with this comment.
Wow! It's like we did nothing about stolen elections the last several times and now we get to deal with it every time from here until the country collapses on itself like a dying star!
Rational normies are facing a terrible reality right now. Either:
Americans really are stupid enough to vote this way legitimately.
OR
Our system is irreparably corrupt and rigged and elections are pointless now.
Either one is equally horrifying. But the answer is BOTH
That’s the chilling truth of it. Most elections aren’t fixed. They convinced the masses their way is better.
Help!
"Under communism, no one can hear you scream."
Vote Harder!!!
Unf
Tell her not to concede. Demand an audit. If we can prove a group of Republican voters were disenfranchised by being turned away from the polls, demand the election be nullified.
Even if legal, no judge would actually do it
What the actual fuck?!?