Lake Campaign Calls for Redo of Maricopa County Due to Widespread Vote Machine Malfunctioning on Election Day
Hundreds of people per malfunction location could have either left the line or didn’t show up as they heard about the hours-long wait times.
Need that magic .5% for recount first, I think.
Recounts are pointless most of the time - the only thing recount is providing is hand recount of the paper ballot. The people stealing the elections usually do a good job providing right amount of ballot.
What's not discussed enough is signatures verification audit, also called canvas.
As Dr. Frank says, recount is useless. You're just counting the same counterfeit ballots as they counted the first time.
REVOTE or Canvass only 2 paths now.
Better than nothing but you right. Last time we were so shocked by the number we thought it was computers adding votes when it was but using mail in ballot dumps adjudication which I bet has a rejection of red votes much higher than blue. All it takes is a few % point spread out
Yeah, we've learned a lot in the past 2 years.
Wouldn't surprise me if we start getting some reports of some cheaters caught in the act soon. We had a lot of eyeballs.
they were caught last time, and nothing happened to them. remember the suitcase full of ballots that media was denying? remember judges being intimidated? remember all those witnesses being completely thrown out by judges who were shitting themselves out of fear?
Just saying man, the left plays hard ball. Our side is sticking to self imposed rules that don't exist for anyone else.
A lot of the reason we've failed is because we assume people are on "our side".
Truth and transparency vs Institutional corruption is a tough one, when you have to go through the institutions to get justice.
But we're better positioned now then we were then. Let's see what happens over the next few weeks.
yep, chain of custody is already fucked
make chads great again
Chads will always be great. Especially those that hang well.
They find counterfeit ballots with every single canvass in every single State.
It's the voter rolls that are the key.
I've got a great link on this one:
https://electionfraud20.org/canvassing/
Check Florida, and then tell me what DeSantis has done about this.
Dr. Shiva found a lot of signature verification BS in 2020
A LOT
That is true, gives dems time to cover their crimes.
Do 3 audits. 1 by a red state like florida, 1 by a blue state like california and 1 by arizona
Well you see, floridas audit that found 80% of dem ballots to be fake doesnt count because cali and arizona verified the count.
Yes but it will take florida 2 hours to their 2 weeks
Yes all of the above. The fraud is obvious. The citizens of Arizona will probably bend over and take it up the ass because almost all Americans are fucking pussies
Are you American?
Doesn't have to be to know that.
Yup. Home of the corrupt elections & congress
He's sounds vaccinated.
The problem is, I think the six days of counting after election day wasn't just counting. I think they were covering their tracks with most of that time expecting a contested election and a recount. She might have them in the machine malfunctions though since they only occurred in Republican districts. Hard to make a case that was just a glitch when it was over 30% of the machines being down for hours. If you counted all the machines down times the hours, it's over half of election day easily. That's half a day of Republicans being disinfranchised from their vote.
The 19" paper was the main culprit in the issues. You don't have to prove that was malicious. It happened and voters were disenfranchised.
The case for a redo is reasonable. Do we have a reasonable court? Because I don't think you'll see the same State Legislature who failed to fix election laws do the right thing.
There ARE reasonable courts in AZ. The question is whether we get one. Lake didn't get a reasonable judge when they asked for voting to be extended by 1 hour in Maricopa to compensate (a difference that probably would've swung the election), and that honestly probably works in her favor.
Important to note that AZ is in the ninth circuit, in which Trump appointed a lot of judges to and shifted the balance. Now, are they Barret/Kavanaugh federalist society disappointments? Guess we'll find out.
3 hour extension which was a fraction of the time the machines were down. Machines were down from 6am to 2pm. Missed all the morning and lunch time for people that work. That is 100k voters easy.
When you kill your enemies. They win.
It's actually a court friendly setup, since it does not have to prove fraud or malfeasance. Just incompetence with an objectively damaged party. It doesn't have to be entirely republican impact either; any voters in those areas were disenfrachised. And the dem party sued to prevent them from extending polling hours. Who knows how cucked the courts are in AZ though (pretty cucked apparently).
Exactly.
The burden of proof is relatively low here, as disenfranchisement did, indeed, occur.
I'm pretty confident they've already got a ton of affidavits.
Exactly, disenfranchisement has been a big issue w courts these last few years.
They need enough affidavits to materially impact the election. If the difference is 20k, they need 20k affidavits of people that didn't end up voting.
Are you sure you'd need that many affidavits?
Here's why I ask; I'm helping organize my country for a multi-state canvassing effort. We're only shooting for 100 affidavits per county before going to the sheriff.
I think the term used was "preponderance of evidence".
Hey hamster I'd love to help...I want to get involved and I'm tired of sitting on the sidelines.. Time to jump in..how can I get involved?
So in 2020, we ran into the argument, in the courts and on TV, that of course there was fraud. There is always fraud, but was it determinative, and do you have evidence to prove it?
So yes, you will need as many votes plus 1 as the margin of steal, affidavits from voters who never got to vote, to request a do over.
Now, 100 avidavits should be plenty of suspicion to launch an investigation, but if you want to do a redo, I think you need the numbers up front for a Civil rights/ voter suppression lawsuit. And it needs to be heard and awarded before the new officials are sworn in. The other tactic of the uniparty is to delay the legal process until its moot.
I think you are right. You just need to show that a lot of people were disenfranchised and they can assume many others were affected also. There’s no way to track down absolutely everyone affected anyhow.
There's the real question.
The fact the JUDGE didn't do anything, says everything.
The court system in America is Very Broken.
If things descend into violence it’s the fault of the courts as much as the corrupt politicians etc. Courts are supposed to be the remedy for such corruption.
They were printing up the necessary margins as well
I hope so.
Re-do, not recount.
The .5% is the threshold for an automatic recount. While it would still be persuasive to be as close as possible, a request for a special election doesn't rely on that.
That’s for an automatic one. Nothing says other circumstances don’t qualify for it. The fact that Hobbs never recused herself is insane. Each team and independents to count and verify each signature
still cant fathom how the secretary of state, running for Governor, can run and certify the election her own election.
If the situation was reversed and Lake was in charge the Dems would have never allowed it
Yeah, remember when they forced Sessions to rEcUsE hImSeLf due to the appearance of impropriety? Hobbs should have had to recuse herself from the position of S.O.S.
Sessions was not forced to do anything.
He was the original Deep State snake.
Typical dickless Republicans, give up everything, get nothing in return, then have the audacity to ask to be reelected to the same bent-over-asscheeks-spread position just to resume the status quo and repeat the cycle
The uniparty would never allow it
Well there was that situation with Kemp's first gubernatorial election. Dems cried foul but nothing came of it.
Just like the Maricopa election officials having an anti-MAGA PAC.
Could in a court of Law, Bias and Voter Intimidation be proven when Slobbs called us Neo Nazi on Twitter?
Perhaps, but no need.
There is irrefutable evidence that Election Day issues caused many to be disenfranchised.
But if you wanted to prove malice, how about Steven Richard's anti-MAGA PAC.
When has there ever been a case like that and did the voters win? What did they do?
Yes, there have been redos.
I'd have to spend time I don't have to look up examples, but we discussed this after the 2020 debacle.
no problem
There is a need. She’d still be overseeing things in a redo.
You may have a point here. I'm not sure who would oversee a redo,
If it's just one county, the crooks in Maricopa might be the issue, but I'd hope a court with the balls to order a redo would ensure bipartisanship (as if the GOP are the good guys).
I think this only gets fixed if patriots get so loud they can't be ignored.
Kemp in GA was in the same position in 2019.
Which is dumb, but this is still even worse.
Hobbs called all Trump supporters Nazis, was talking directly with counters during the process who supported her openly on social media. She had a judge tell people to go home and stop voting, and that's ontop of 10-20% of machines not working and nobody having any idea of their vote was actually counted.
And Stacy Tank threw a fit claiming the election was rigged. It maybe it was. Kemp is a piece of crap.
She is right It was rigged, but it was rigged in her and the democrats favor and she still lost.
Did that election take a week?
Whole election system is broken and easily subject to fraud. True disaster.
Hobbs doesn't Certify the Elections. AZ Has other people that do that.
She is the overseer and has ultimate control over the counties whether it is obvious or not.
I'm not saying she doesn't all Im pointing out is She doesn't sign off on it. The Election Officials do that. It should be illegal for a SOS to run in an election they manage. It's too easy for them to cheat the system. Or work it in some way to have an unfair advantage.
China does it don’t they? True The Vote says so
They also had a judge tell people to go home on election day.
That was weird because if one fake person made a fake claim in a blue area, they always move heaven and earth to extend the voting.
Yeah, remember that troll in 2020 who memed about voting via cell phone and how the Left then came after him?
Ricky Vaughn? He's been charged with a crime over that.
What about for the widespread fraud instead?
She needs to get proof first, that's how it works.
I watched the end of the board meeting today. The board members are all shills for the establishment. Some even joined anti-Kari and anti-MAGA pacs. They refused to acknowledge anyone's complaints. They said "change the law" or "we will fix it next time."
These people are truly evil.
I’m sure they said “change the law”. These people need to be bent over
They can only keep this charade going for so long before something breaks and someone does something regrettable.
It's laches or the case is moot or no standing. Or some other trick not to evaluate the case at all.
In theory AZ Supreme Court is still controlled by GOP - all 7 were appointed by Republican governor. 5 of them by Ducey.
In real world that's not worth anything - judicial branch doesn't want to get their hands dirty saving elections.
Ok, so those 5 that Ducey Bought off cannot be trusted due to Ducey being Owned by the Mexican Cartels...
Good to know....
A suit was filed over this very issue in Maricopa County on election day and a "totally fair and impartial" judge refused to extend voting hours. This new lawsuit will probably be heard by the same judge, lol.
Can’t extend voting hours because we let you vote by mail for a month.
So someone who’s kid is waiting for them on a street corner or who had to poop or to go back to work didn’t care? It shouldn’t take hours to vote.
And some people have jobs and missing work for the elections would have gotten them fired. I have sympathy for anyone in that boat.
Ok, do us all a favor and stay in your fantasy world where people take a day off to vote on election day, and have all the time in the world to wait from 6AM to 2PM and then some to vote because the machine wasn't working.
But will it happen…
Hard no.
“No Standing” ™️
I’ve been standing for a while man
I hope so but I doubt it
She's not asking for a recount. She's asking for a new election in Maricopa. Gien that there were a third of the machines not working and a judge refused to allow voting times to be extended, this is not an unreasonable request. It may actually have legs. Get it in front of a different judge and see what happens.
Need arest Hobbs for election fraud. Redo election
Good luck. That was the point. Im sure the RINOs that just got elected across leadership positions will be all over this
Who they gonna petition for a recount? Some asshole democrats?
Can't recount if they didn't really finish the first count.
Agree, but never gonna happen.
Riggers gonna rig
Joggers gonna Jog…
Stacey Abrams gonna obese
How about banning democrats from working the polls permanently?
Republicans were barred for a period of time.
I get it, I really do, but the time to really hammer this sentiment home is on election day (I know it was to a slight degree). Not after you lose and NOW you want to act. It looks tacky. I mean so does cheating but then again these things should have been fixed over and over before we got to this point anyways. It’s just all fucked.
Maybe we used to worry about looking tacky, but now I'd wager that barely any of us (true MAGAns) care about the optics. We just need to go full-force ahead and ignore the Left. They're the tacky ones after all, with their trannyfag 'admiral', and bald faggot Department of Energy groomer, and satanic fag monkeypox czar.
People pretending to be the opposite sex is the ultimate in tackiness. Fuck 'em.
I guess I am just a sucker for decorum. Otherwise, what am I trying to preserve at this point? I want to win, but not at the cost of becoming “them.” At this point, in clown world, nothing seems to matter anymore, and we all just seem to make it up as we go along.🤷🏻♂️
I understand that, fren. We just need to pivot from our complete strategic failures.
Agreed.
Lake has been calling out fraud from day one of the election.
Sure, but it was lackadaisical at best. It’s been more of a “lets wait and see, before we react” than anything else. The cheating should have been hammered as is was brought up. I mean, I seen posts of the fuckery here, but she wasn’t hammering it. You needed to take that cheating momentum even if you won and keep the energy up.
The underlying problem if it all is that the historical cheating was never rectified and no one was held to account, so they will keep doing it.
How is that supposed to happen on Election Day when the bulk of Votes are still coming in?
The malfunctions the day of were well known, referencing the source material. The time to shut it down was at that time, not after you lose.
How exactly? Kari Lake can't stop that. I was listening to as it happened. The guy that is charge of that ( I forget his name) just had people fix the printer machines while tell people to drop in box #3.
His boss is Bill Gates https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/decision/arizona-county-quick-to-bat-down-election-misinformation/75-75b489e2-fdd1-4ace-bd1c-aa80ba7bb657
Kari Lake can't just phone this guy and tell him to stop.
And now you can’t do anything but cry about it, because no one “cares” and no one is going to do anything about it.
And now the major problem is that both sides will try and keep having elections until their guy wins. This shit needed to be fixed long before we got to this point.
Now everyone is going to start the cycle of jerking off to another two years of “two weeks ™”. At this point it is maddening.
Whatever. Are you voting for Trump or not?
Of course I am, in the same fucking broken system as last time around.
Good
That’s cute. Problems should have been fixed before the election. But instead of ripping apart our leadership, we’re pointing the finger at democrats again as if they’ll suddenly find Jesus, admit everything, and stop doing what they’re doing. Ire needs to be redirected at the Republican legislatures across the country who did absolutely nothing (some did) to remedy the situation. Not sure who they are
Redo of count or the election?
Is anyone even reporting this besides the westernjournal that no normie reads? I agree with the others - no one will care about this request, Maripoopa will NEVER hold a new election, and even if she gets within .5% recounts never make any difference. No way in HELL will the riggers let her win. Not under ANY circumstances. And there are NO CONSEQUENCES EVER for the uniparty.
This is hard for me to wrap my mind around. I keep thinking in terms of "the right way to do things" and "cause -> effect" however when lawless people are breaking all the rules, what is left?
Shooting, that's what's left. I pray that is a long time off, and that we solve our electoral problems peacefully. War is so horrible that it is a virtue to be patient even when election cheating is going on. The main thing is exposing the wrongdoing and informing the people. Fixing it will happen either peacefully or not, but whatever happens needs to be the will of the people.
Yeah, I feel the same way. It just seems to be true that these people are getting away with whatever they want. Maybe eventually it devolves into violence as the final and only answer. But I sure as hell hope not. I keep saying we just need to find a way to out ground game them. But will we?
Ok, so shooting.....
Can you at least name 1, just ONE POINT of all the fucking LOGISTICS that it takes to even begin going down that road???
No! NO you cannot, because you DON'T KNOW SHIT!!!!
Now stop asking for Kinetic actions of you Can't even begin to fathom the fucking Logistics.....
I’m not asking for kinetic actions. I’m specifically praying that they are a long, long way off, or else unnecessary.
So cool it, fren!
Ah yes, abandon everybody and run like a coward, and then wonder why NoBoDy Is DoInG aNyThInG.
You would have never made it past any Armed Forces indoctrination. Probably would have screamed "I'm a 711" and gotten sepped for being a desertion risk.
This is how I know you never served. Lmao what a faggot trying to act like you're a vet. You're not. Stolen valor coward.
Yeah, and every last one of them wants to go ""KINETIC"", like it's a NEW BUZZWORD that they just learned that comes from Military Jargon....
What pisses me off most is that they never ever consider the Logistics on any of it, just ""LETS GO KINETIC"", and I really don't believe they even know what that actually means.....
We sure do have a bunch of really Stupid Dumb Asses just supertyping whatever they can to stir the shit pot....
OK, butthurt guy, whatever makes you feel better about being called out as a saber rattler. You'll delete your comments anyway like "lock and load" u/HugeJasske.
Yeah but you're still not a vet. And certainly not a combat vet.
‘scuse me? I have a doppleganger?
What are you even talking about? You sound like a little kid having a temper tantrum.
And I just called for a pizza. So what?
Why this isn't in front of a judge puzzles me. A Judge is the only official who can order an election do over.
That begs the question. Has there ever been a do over for an election based on disenfranchisement via inability to vote because of machine malfunctioning?
If not, what do they do if people show up and none of the machines work?
Is she doing more than just holding a microphone up to her mouth?
Please don't let her turn into another Wendy Rogers.
Wendy “Mike “q-Tard” Lindell” Rogers!
I don't want to be cruel, but she shouldn't ask nicely. Makes her look weak, and she always looked strong and confident. Do what the democrats would do if it were them.
The “winning” side has no motivation for a new vote and there’s no one willing to force it to happen. This is why cheaters win.
I could be wrong, but i have not heard anything of any substance out of DC from the entrenched GOP frauds - crickets- they would rather lose control and maintain their own power, playing their games selling out the country AND their own constituents, than ever give Trump/Maga candidates a shot at disrupting their stranglehold on this nation. Their silence is deafening as to what WE already know is happening, both in Az and the rest of the country.
Yup, I am beyond done with the McLosers
That’s all she’s got? Should have been better prepared. Everyone knew this was coming. Just like in 2024 when it’s even worse than 2022 and this whole site is clutching their pearls because Trump loses. Do nothing and that’s what you’ll receive.. nothing
Sadly, at this point in time, this will be what will happen if nothing is sorted.
I'm sure the courts will go with one of their usual answers - "no standing" or "you should have brought this to us a long time ago" or "the point is moot now"
She can call for it all she wants, it’ll never happen because the Communists took control of Arizona
Recount? Are they even done counting yet?
I think they are still counting in places. Not sure about Maricopa. It was said that today is the deadline in Maricopa to cure a ballot so they should be wrapping it up soon if they are.
Yeah, with 75,000 Ballots that simply materialized out of thin air, and then the Mixed Bag of uncounted and Counted??
It's all just becoming way too obvious that they cheat as much as possible, whenever possible....
And, I'm betting that a good 80% of both of them were going to Keri, and not to Hobbs....
What's the 75k ballots? Haven't heard about this.
Ok, so about at the same exact time, they did a mix of Counted Ballots, and New Ballots....
And they also anounced that they had 75,000 Ballots that just sowed up and they didn't know where from or what precinct, or anything about them....
They just materialized out of thin air, is the idea I got from what the person was saying....
Right, I knew about the mixing of ballots. It was the "Third Box" ballots from people who couldn't get them tabulated in person because the machines were down on election day that reportedly got mixed with already counted ballots, was my understanding.
But there are also 75k ballots that just showed up and nobody knows anything about them? But of course.
Yeah, the ""3rd Box"", turned out that there were about 200 ballots extra in those boxes, meaning about 17.000 extra ballots in just Maricopa....
Add to that the 75,000 that magically appeared and bingo, Hobbs is Gov....
Needs an audit not a recount. Get an allied country to do it. (No not China)
calls for :D
Odds we'll see a redo are zero
I put forth that we add 'Leftist criminality', to the 'death and taxes phrase.