All we need is one state - just one state - to completely follow up, demand a recount and expose the fraud. Then hopefully the domino effect will work its magic on the remaining voting fraud states.
The audit showed many signs of fraud. In a typical election you could have things like missing signatures thrown out, but like you said the laws were changed to make these valid ballots. This has to change in order to fix this.
The former AZ audit is exactly why this time other counties are like fuck this shit not again and now we have a race that isn't conceded nor is it certified which is an order of magnitude better than it was before. The entire reason the other audits went no where was because the elections were long over and certified which means any audit results were for informational purposes to guard against future elections. Well it looks like Kari and her group came prepared and here we are with a great chance of her pulling this out of the fire.
because the elections were long over and certified which means any audit results were for informational purposes to guard against future elections.
Once they got those "W's" on the scoreboard, it was over. The courts didn't want anything to do with overturning an election and of course some are compromised. For the same reason. law enforcement isn't going to come in like storm troopers and muscle any election change. This time however they've finally got a wrench tossed into the cheating engine before certification.
This is why the media always pushes their predictions as the truth and tries to force a candidate to 'concede because its obvious you lost or else we will call you an election denier!!!'. Once you concede its over.
I’ve always said, a great way to get people to see your point of view is to call them short-sighted smooth brain retards. Ever think maybe YOU’RE the faggot? And if you think Mail in voting and ballot harvesting is the only issue, then you’re also retarded. Mail in voting and ballot harvesting isn’t an issue at all if we actually did those things to the degree that they do. The bigger issue is the voting machines, the voter rolls, adjudication, and the bought and paid for attorneys general, sos, and judges.
and the very real blackmail and threats held over the heads of both individuals and entire American cities if they do things like, say, hold an audit of said election.
🤣 exactly the general response I expect from the people here
Keep losing and come back to your comment and take a long hard look. Call me what you want, but I'm consistently correct. Nothing will change until there is fear of repercussions.
Also using this space for another prediction, Lake will begin asking for donations at some point. We aren't far out now. And you fucking retards will take the bait.
You didn’t address anything I said. Go ahead, make your case. Tell me how Mail in voting and ballot harvesting is more important than everything I mentioned. It’s almost like you didn’t even read my comment. I never said she was going to win and I never said I would donate. I don’t donate my money to anyone because I don’t trust any politician, EVER. Including trump and Kari lake. But my point still stands.
Well, we’re basically at that point now. We can only change election laws if we take back power. And we can only take back power by winning obviously rigged elections. So we either do what is necessary to win elections, or we use physical force.
Until someone with either a law enforcement or military background gets on the mic and says "I've got the proof, here it is
Ron DeSantis sounds like the perfect candidate. Banning ballot harvesting and cleaning voter rolls, for instance, in counties like Broward, did his election a great service.
Having spent some time in Arizona and knowing some of the people there I'm going to say if it can't happen there it can't happen anywhere. It was quite a while ago but these were the most based people I ever met
But I'm talking about the people and they were deporting illegals themselves and packing heat without a permit before anyone had ever heard the term constitutional carry
I say the same thing. This is anecdotal but I literally spent a few years traveling the country.
Arizona is based as fuck. It's a literal desert.
When I wandered around aimlessly for a few days in Tucson I talked to every passerby. They were ALL mega based.
Yesterday i went to Kroger in TN to pick up some stuff and while waiting in line i talked to like 3 people. They don't like Trump. When I walk down the aisles I sing "Donald trump is coming back. Donald Trump is coming back. He loves us. This I know. Donnnnnald Trump. Donald trump" everyone scowls at me. White, black, Mexican doesn't matter.
I see a guy taking his shopping cart back to the rack and I think "ok he's a good Samaritan" I say "god bless you and god bless Donald trump" he gets mad and says "If only, God would hate Donald Trump."
I pull up at a stoplight near a family of Hispanics I yell out "Donald Trump is coming back for us all!!!" She yells back "fuck Donald Trump" in front of her 3 kids.
This is several miles outside nashville. It's depressing.
But the builder I sat next to at the bar yesterday. Building nice near million dollar homes. He was impressed with me. He said "you get it" as we discussed social credit scores, destruction of the nuclear family, and the like.
"Never give up. Don't never give up. " Jimmy Valvano. He woulda voted DJT BABY
You can't judge the whole state of New York, by looking at New York city. If you are judging the state of Tennessee by (Little California) Nashville, you are fucking up.
Singing about a president might be the other. Don't be surprised if people look at you like that nutjob lefty who thought she was Mary Poppins the censorship office.
Exactly! It takes a while to escape the metropolitan beehive. Concerning voters in the cities potentially voting MAGA instead of Wokeness. This concerns Nashville and Memphis too.
My friend -I wasn't going to reply but I actually thought about you before deciding I'm going to do you the favor of telling you the truth.
While we agree politically and I consider you an ally I think you may want to re-evaluate your behavior.
Singing "Donald Trump is coming back" to strangers , Saying god bless you and donald trump", yelling at wetback families at stoplights etc to people you don't know who are going through the motions or in line to buy food in the supermarket is not normal behavior. Even I would think you're a weirdo.
A lot of these people know 0 about politics unfortunately and many are brainwashed. Some probably agree with you but you come across as very odd.
Is it the worst thing in the world? No. I wouldn't dislike you for it or anything but like it or not it isn't normal behavior and you're going to be judged by the normies for it.
Keep your power level in check, please don't make us look bad or crazy. When dealing with normies you have to be an ambassador of virtue and common sense and sanity.
Recount is useless. The method of cheating most commonly involves ballots that aren't legitimate being submitted. We need a new election with voter ID laws and an end to indiscriminate mail-in voting. If you wish to vote absentee, you should have to go to the DMV or somewhere in advance and prove your identity in person, then be handed a ballot. Doing it any other way is truly absurd.
Many folks said the same about 2022, that no election matters unless we right 2020, or at least install laws that make 2020 impossible. Not enough states did that, because most of those states are blue or RINO led. Trump has no chance if this doesn't get resolved. They'll always find just enough votes. Everytime it's close, the dem wins, except boebert. That whole race was odd. Why concede if you're down ~500 votes? And he doesn't want a recount? That's strange. Kinda like Hillary not wanting an audit but complained about Russia hackers hacking the elections.
Yes, in the past I agreed with your sentiment but now I am not sure. We have counties refusing to certify bogus elections, we have MAGA candidates beating Dems in blue districts....no I believe if 2024 is stolen from Trump there will be a riot but if DeSantis is somehow the nominee and it is stolen from him, the country will go absolutely bananas because the normies can think "Well, they stole it from Trump but that's ok because he was mean so who cares anyway" but DeSantis is the "nice" face of MAGA and if he gets robbed people will finally see what's up and the resulting pain will be glorious.
Desantis doesn't have half the support Trump does. If Paul Ryan and the fags at Lincoln project endorse desantis, that should be the only red flag we need
You're pushing desantis over Trump, gtfoh. It's Trump until Trump can no longer run. Desantis is young and if he is smart, can be president until 2035
In NO FREAKING WAY am I endorsing DeSantis over GEOTUS.....Please reread my comment. It says if the Dems steal it from GEOTUS people will be mad but they will "understand" because MSM "Orange Man Bad" reporting but if they steal it from DeSantis folks will realize the steal was always on because DeSantis is the "nice" side of MAGA. No, I am Trump MAGA first, last and always.
They can control Desantis. He does not have his own money to fight. Trump would have been destroyed long ago without his billions.
Now as for the Fox watching normie Conservatives, some are becoming Never Trumpers.
I dunno, the pain another Dem administration would bring might take us beyond irreparable. I would be mad as hell because we blew an opportunity to give GEOTUS the second term that was stolen from him while abandoning Florida to the Swamp.
DeSantis will do the same thing. He's a Trojan horse. Normally they'd use a guy like him to just run clock and not set back their agenda, but they're close enough to accomplishing their goals that he'll be used to finish us off.
All that is true. And it certainly doesn't help that most Republican politicians are in the pocket of the Deep State. It's simply not in their interest to actively push for electoral reform.
This. Give up the house to a dozen RINOS who will frustrate the agenda to keep up appearances? No problem. Give up real power where it matters? No way.
It likely will be adjudicated by the Courts. We haven't had much success in even getting a hearing on the evidence, but the fraud in this case is so obvious with malfunctioning machines on election day - who knows?
Unfortunately malfunctioning machines aren't evidence of fraud. There's over 175,000 voting precincts in the U.S... odds are exactly 100% that something goes wrong somewhere. Everyone that wanted to vote still had avenues to vote.
I'd look at the data... number of people who voted, compare it to other years and compare it to registered parties, most all people vote for how they're registered. Find a discrepancy somewhere that doesn't add up.
many registered voters were flat out rejected for voting... told to go elsewhere, and then rejected for voting in other locations because it wasn't their assigned polling location. this is on video.
ballot machines were used out of certification. legal docs have already been filed proving this. many polling sites had 50% or more machines not working. one site had only a single of 4 machines actually working.
ballots for multiple counties were printed on paper that isn't even the right size... too big to feed into the ballot machines.
ballot harvesting was caught on video, and ballot harvesting is illegal in AZ.
rasmussen is reporting that a whopping 85% of arizona voters have no confidence in the midterm election.
I don't think any of that is actually true... but I'll happily take some links... stuff like twitter screenshots, infowars or gwp links just don't have much credibility outside of far right websites, so let's try to avoid them.
Here's a link to a 22 page PDF compiled by attorneys that were sent by the RNC to rove among voting sites in Maricopa County on Election Day. (I know, weird the RNC actually does something positive, eh?)
If you read these reports, submitted by attorneys talking to Republican poll observers, and come away thinking that the Maricopa election was a legitmately conducted election, I'll be completely amazed.
And this is only some of the observations, from some of the attorneys, and some of the poll workers, election judges, and poll observers on that day. I hope you can find time to at least scan this document; it's worth it, I promise.
You need data that supports eye witness testimony. If video evidence disputes eye witness testimony, then it's thrown away. Put it in front of a judge, but if it's like 2020, it'll be dismissed as frivolous.
I'd like to gently point out that my link was provided in response to your post:
I don't think any of that is actually true... but I'll happily take some links... stuff like twitter screenshots, infowars or gwp links just don't have much credibility outside of far right websites, so let's try to avoid them.
We were discussing what you thought was true, and your reply switched switched to what you think will hold up in court.
I'm still curious: do you, personally, find the 22 pages of attorney observations from poll observers to be credible? Can you really read that, and believe that the Maricopa midterm election was legitimately conducted? I'm not badgering; I'd really like to know (if you don't mind.)
the fucking videos have been released. they're all over social media. you think someone went to the polling site, dressed up as a fake poll worker, and faked a whole argument?
that's not how sourcing works you fucking idiot. primary sources are still primary sources regardless of who posts them.
a primary source posted by alex jones or "some random twitter user" is de facto more reliable than a secondary source posted by fox or NYT. didn't you go to first grade?
The difference here is that more than 50% of the machines in one County - Maricopa, had a problem and many people couldn't vote given the length of time required to vote and they had jobs.
If they get enough affidavits from people who couldn't vote because of the malfunctions, maybe it will work. Who knows.
BTW, I upvoted you, not sure why you are getting downvoted - you have a legitimate point of view.
What a stupid argument. When they register fake people or swap addresses to mail ballots to no where they can just as easily adjust voter registration. Literally a few lines of code.
Arizona's been a red state for decades, you would think there would be at least one person still around who could identify fake people being registered. The problem is that there's never that evidence.
They did the exact same thing in 2020 and they told voters with malfunctioning machines "your ballot image has been saved, even of your vote has not registered. If you choose to leave now without getting back in line to revote your vote will be adjudicated" which people thought meant a human would look at the image and pick who they voted for. In actuality, the ballot images were replaced by the machine based on server provided instructions as to which bubbles to fill in in the new "adjudicated" ballot image.
In 2022, many understood the scam and voters were not asked to let their vote be "adjudicated". Instead, they either didn't vote or they put their ballot in "box 3" which we know were later never counted because as observed by observers they just dumped them into duffel bags of already counted ballots.
So Arizonans in some ways "beat the cheat" on the machines except many just gave up and went home or their "box 3 vote" was never counted.
This is just day of voting. The fraud in early voting is also off the chain, with ballots mailed out to irrelevant addresses in batches and ballot mules stuffing ballots.
All in all, the system is completely fraudulent and definitely neither covert nor smooth.
But all you need to convince many is iron discipline in the propaganda, most politicians (who are corrupt), and above all the FBI. If they refuse to acknowledge all the evidence there will still be fools and shills like you that refuse to accept the obvious.
it was cool to watch the state legislatures in 2020 election hearings start to pay attention when evidence was laid out, and you could see them perk up as they realized what happened. lets fuckin go!
I keep seeing this, but I don’t know that “their” control over the process is that complete anymore. You didn’t see county governments publicly holding up certification in 2020.
Katie the Hobbgoblin is such an ugly ass bitch. That's how you know these people are evil, the corruption shows through in their looks. There is not a single decent looking Democrat female out there, not one, all wicked gross women.
It's been confusing because of some early and false reporting. Cochise and Mohave said they're delaying, that was solid info. There was some question about Yavapai, but it's now clear they're delaying until Nov 28.
It's been confusing because of some early and false reporting. Cochise and Mohave said they're delaying, and there was some question about Yavapai. But Yavapai has now said they're delaying until Nov 28.
You're welcome. About party affiliation...I still have a hard time wrapping my brain around the fact that four of the five members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors are Republican, and so is the Maricopa County Recorder, Stephen Richer.
So in AZ, some of the worst damage to election integrity is being done by Republicans (it's a sad state of affairs.) The uniparty is alive and well...
As far as I'm concerned, we have the Federal Workforce and The People and the Federal Workforce is at war with us as to who rules this country. We have the numbers, which they are trying hard to diminish and weaken. We have the numbers and the Patriots but a whole lot of people are are still sleeping.
We have the numbers and the Patriots but a whole lot of people are are still sleeping.
Agreed, I know a frustrating number of conservatives (mostly older) that still think news only becomes real when it's covered by the main stream media (Fox in particular.)
And that's sadly ironic, given that almost all of the personal video statements I've seen (of disenfranchised Maricopa voters) look to be made by older white conservatives...the same group of people I have the hardest time convincing that serious election fraud is affecting election outcomes.
Even if the coming lawsuits by Kari Lake, Abe Hamadeh and others don't prevail, hopefully they push the reality of what's happening a little further into public awareness with some people. I'm sure pulling for some wins, though.
there has to be some wins -- any reasonably intelligent person realizes the many ways in which cheating takes place, but even more scary is the Federal Workforce is literally subverting the will of The People and if the Judicial Branch, which I already believe is a big part of the problem, doesn't start clamping down on this, the Judicial Branch will become as credible as mainstream media
first, fraud doesn't have to be found (but it will) . The legal battle is going to be about the disenfranchisement AND discrimination of voters -- serious violations of voter's Constitutional Rights.
The fraud found and the discrepancy of treatment of two different class of voters, such as mail-in ballot voters vs day-of voters is CLEAR. Thus the only real remedy is a new election. Hopefully the fraud found will be used as leverage to insist on one-day voting, ID, and polls stay open until last person in line when polls closed, votes.
The fact it’s taking this long means everyone is about to be disappointed. It doesn’t take 2 weeks to know that a new election must be administered.
No moron. I wasn’t talking about the election we all know is stolen. I’m talking about discarding the original election and re-administer. It doesn’t take this long to make a decision unless you want it to be like 2020 all over again.
Az Pede here, we are Maga Country! The libtards have invaded Phoenix and suburbs with their wokeism but the wild west is still alive. We are among the greatest frontiers that lived,with the cowboy mindset of God and country. We have only begun to fight.
People are talking about recounts and audits like Maricopa didn't have the world's most scrutinized audit that found tens of thousands of unconstitutionally counted ballots and nobody did shit about it. I hope this goes the way y'all want it but I can't be the only one getting tired of hopium. Two more weeks.... to hold off the actual revolution.
I just want to see Kari Lake fuck up her enemies and Globalists.
Please Lord. Get her in there.
She is the only political leader I now really like after Trump.
Yesterday I learned DeSantist was a Yale guy and fucked around with Skull and Bones. I read about his work in Gitmo. Now I do not trust DeSantis whatsoever.
I always thought he was pro baseball player and local business guy who made it as governor. I had no idea he was a Skull and Bones familiar involved in the Iraq War torture machine.
You vote your way in, you shoot your way out. We are in between those two options right now. But everybody knows the right has no balls, and will certainly not take the necessary step. The left place to win, the right place to lose with dignity
All we need is one state - just one state - to completely follow up, demand a recount and expose the fraud. Then hopefully the domino effect will work its magic on the remaining voting fraud states.
This is my hope too. đź•Š
Agreed with one addition:
*Recount + audit
Recounting counterfeit ballots could give us the same number of counterfeit/fraudulent votes.
We need a deep dive audit of everything, including the election machines. Similar to what happened in Antrim County Michigan 2020.
Audits before recounts. Always. You must prove the ballots are legitimate, the "voters" eligible, before you count them.
The audit showed many signs of fraud. In a typical election you could have things like missing signatures thrown out, but like you said the laws were changed to make these valid ballots. This has to change in order to fix this.
The former AZ audit is exactly why this time other counties are like fuck this shit not again and now we have a race that isn't conceded nor is it certified which is an order of magnitude better than it was before. The entire reason the other audits went no where was because the elections were long over and certified which means any audit results were for informational purposes to guard against future elections. Well it looks like Kari and her group came prepared and here we are with a great chance of her pulling this out of the fire.
Once they got those "W's" on the scoreboard, it was over. The courts didn't want anything to do with overturning an election and of course some are compromised. For the same reason. law enforcement isn't going to come in like storm troopers and muscle any election change. This time however they've finally got a wrench tossed into the cheating engine before certification.
This is why the media always pushes their predictions as the truth and tries to force a candidate to 'concede because its obvious you lost or else we will call you an election denier!!!'. Once you concede its over.
I’ve always said, a great way to get people to see your point of view is to call them short-sighted smooth brain retards. Ever think maybe YOU’RE the faggot? And if you think Mail in voting and ballot harvesting is the only issue, then you’re also retarded. Mail in voting and ballot harvesting isn’t an issue at all if we actually did those things to the degree that they do. The bigger issue is the voting machines, the voter rolls, adjudication, and the bought and paid for attorneys general, sos, and judges.
and the very real blackmail and threats held over the heads of both individuals and entire American cities if they do things like, say, hold an audit of said election.
🤣 exactly the general response I expect from the people here
Keep losing and come back to your comment and take a long hard look. Call me what you want, but I'm consistently correct. Nothing will change until there is fear of repercussions.
Also using this space for another prediction, Lake will begin asking for donations at some point. We aren't far out now. And you fucking retards will take the bait.
You didn’t address anything I said. Go ahead, make your case. Tell me how Mail in voting and ballot harvesting is more important than everything I mentioned. It’s almost like you didn’t even read my comment. I never said she was going to win and I never said I would donate. I don’t donate my money to anyone because I don’t trust any politician, EVER. Including trump and Kari lake. But my point still stands.
I don’t ever want to get to the point where we must cheat harder than they do.
Well, we’re basically at that point now. We can only change election laws if we take back power. And we can only take back power by winning obviously rigged elections. So we either do what is necessary to win elections, or we use physical force.
Ron DeSantis sounds like the perfect candidate. Banning ballot harvesting and cleaning voter rolls, for instance, in counties like Broward, did his election a great service.
He also fired a long-time elections worker who was in charge of administrating elections (broward)? And a source of longtime fraud.
Imagine how a few key firings can clean up a process...paging Elon..,
You want one of my name tags?
Having spent some time in Arizona and knowing some of the people there I'm going to say if it can't happen there it can't happen anywhere. It was quite a while ago but these were the most based people I ever met
Two words: McCain
McCain was the first time I was rooting for the tumor.
Now we have Fettermans neck tumor to root for.
Gross.
But I'm talking about the people and they were deporting illegals themselves and packing heat without a permit before anyone had ever heard the term constitutional carry
I agree. Saw relatives when I went to Phoenix this summer for a funeral. They are pretty fed up with what is going on in their state right now.
I say the same thing. This is anecdotal but I literally spent a few years traveling the country.
Arizona is based as fuck. It's a literal desert.
When I wandered around aimlessly for a few days in Tucson I talked to every passerby. They were ALL mega based.
Yesterday i went to Kroger in TN to pick up some stuff and while waiting in line i talked to like 3 people. They don't like Trump. When I walk down the aisles I sing "Donald trump is coming back. Donald Trump is coming back. He loves us. This I know. Donnnnnald Trump. Donald trump" everyone scowls at me. White, black, Mexican doesn't matter.
I see a guy taking his shopping cart back to the rack and I think "ok he's a good Samaritan" I say "god bless you and god bless Donald trump" he gets mad and says "If only, God would hate Donald Trump."
I pull up at a stoplight near a family of Hispanics I yell out "Donald Trump is coming back for us all!!!" She yells back "fuck Donald Trump" in front of her 3 kids.
This is several miles outside nashville. It's depressing.
But the builder I sat next to at the bar yesterday. Building nice near million dollar homes. He was impressed with me. He said "you get it" as we discussed social credit scores, destruction of the nuclear family, and the like.
"Never give up. Don't never give up. " Jimmy Valvano. He woulda voted DJT BABY
You can't judge the whole state of New York, by looking at New York city. If you are judging the state of Tennessee by (Little California) Nashville, you are fucking up.
Singing about a president might be the other. Don't be surprised if people look at you like that nutjob lefty who thought she was Mary Poppins the censorship office.
Exactly! It takes a while to escape the metropolitan beehive. Concerning voters in the cities potentially voting MAGA instead of Wokeness. This concerns Nashville and Memphis too.
Now?
My friend -I wasn't going to reply but I actually thought about you before deciding I'm going to do you the favor of telling you the truth.
While we agree politically and I consider you an ally I think you may want to re-evaluate your behavior.
Singing "Donald Trump is coming back" to strangers , Saying god bless you and donald trump", yelling at wetback families at stoplights etc to people you don't know who are going through the motions or in line to buy food in the supermarket is not normal behavior. Even I would think you're a weirdo.
A lot of these people know 0 about politics unfortunately and many are brainwashed. Some probably agree with you but you come across as very odd.
Is it the worst thing in the world? No. I wouldn't dislike you for it or anything but like it or not it isn't normal behavior and you're going to be judged by the normies for it.
Keep your power level in check, please don't make us look bad or crazy. When dealing with normies you have to be an ambassador of virtue and common sense and sanity.
Take care brother.
I always poll the people.
Not how to go about it. No excuse for acting like a kook. You are turning people against the cause and theyll associate kooks with Patriots.
I hope you can understand and accept the evaluation I gave you without being defensive.
Gonna keep doing my thing but I appreciate the feedback
WIsh you the best
There's your problem.
recounting doesn't remove the millions of fake ballots added after the election.
Hold the line az started 2020 Wisconsin provided now its in az court.
Recount is useless. The method of cheating most commonly involves ballots that aren't legitimate being submitted. We need a new election with voter ID laws and an end to indiscriminate mail-in voting. If you wish to vote absentee, you should have to go to the DMV or somewhere in advance and prove your identity in person, then be handed a ballot. Doing it any other way is truly absurd.
The American people are on a collision course with the Deep State.
When the Deep State rigs and steals the 2024 election, deep impact will be achieved.
2025 will be Year Zero for the Republic.
Many folks said the same about 2022, that no election matters unless we right 2020, or at least install laws that make 2020 impossible. Not enough states did that, because most of those states are blue or RINO led. Trump has no chance if this doesn't get resolved. They'll always find just enough votes. Everytime it's close, the dem wins, except boebert. That whole race was odd. Why concede if you're down ~500 votes? And he doesn't want a recount? That's strange. Kinda like Hillary not wanting an audit but complained about Russia hackers hacking the elections.
Yes, in the past I agreed with your sentiment but now I am not sure. We have counties refusing to certify bogus elections, we have MAGA candidates beating Dems in blue districts....no I believe if 2024 is stolen from Trump there will be a riot but if DeSantis is somehow the nominee and it is stolen from him, the country will go absolutely bananas because the normies can think "Well, they stole it from Trump but that's ok because he was mean so who cares anyway" but DeSantis is the "nice" face of MAGA and if he gets robbed people will finally see what's up and the resulting pain will be glorious.
Desantis doesn't have half the support Trump does. If Paul Ryan and the fags at Lincoln project endorse desantis, that should be the only red flag we need
You're pushing desantis over Trump, gtfoh. It's Trump until Trump can no longer run. Desantis is young and if he is smart, can be president until 2035
Trump 52% DeSantis 22%
As of yesterday's latest polling.
I expect DeSantis to close the gap but also mind the gap.
He's got all the corporations begging him to run but money can't buy Trump voters.
MAGA
Exactly, no amount of ad buys will get us to stray from GEOTUS.
Polls are bullshit.
In NO FREAKING WAY am I endorsing DeSantis over GEOTUS.....Please reread my comment. It says if the Dems steal it from GEOTUS people will be mad but they will "understand" because MSM "Orange Man Bad" reporting but if they steal it from DeSantis folks will realize the steal was always on because DeSantis is the "nice" side of MAGA. No, I am Trump MAGA first, last and always.
Was gonna say…. They don’t need to steal it from desantis….
They can control Desantis. He does not have his own money to fight. Trump would have been destroyed long ago without his billions.
Now as for the Fox watching normie Conservatives, some are becoming Never Trumpers.
DeSantis will legit lose because people like me won't vote if he's the nominee.
I dunno, the pain another Dem administration would bring might take us beyond irreparable. I would be mad as hell because we blew an opportunity to give GEOTUS the second term that was stolen from him while abandoning Florida to the Swamp.
DeSantis will do the same thing. He's a Trojan horse. Normally they'd use a guy like him to just run clock and not set back their agenda, but they're close enough to accomplishing their goals that he'll be used to finish us off.
All that is true. And it certainly doesn't help that most Republican politicians are in the pocket of the Deep State. It's simply not in their interest to actively push for electoral reform.
this. trump can win florida by 20 points, but that doesn't mean shit when other "swing" states can still be stolen.
or everyone will sit at home and watch Montell Williams while eating a $45.00 pizza
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Order out of chaos.
Just like Iowa caucus in 2020, they burn shit down then declare victory
That's great but they're going to do it in the primary.
Pretty sure that these are merely small delays, and that they will certify... unless of course, they have evidence of fraud.
Lake will not be governor. They cannot allow it.
This. Give up the house to a dozen RINOS who will frustrate the agenda to keep up appearances? No problem. Give up real power where it matters? No way.
Yep. All show. This will go nowhere. AG will sue the counties and threaten officials with jail time, and they’ll back down.
It likely will be adjudicated by the Courts. We haven't had much success in even getting a hearing on the evidence, but the fraud in this case is so obvious with malfunctioning machines on election day - who knows?
Unfortunately malfunctioning machines aren't evidence of fraud. There's over 175,000 voting precincts in the U.S... odds are exactly 100% that something goes wrong somewhere. Everyone that wanted to vote still had avenues to vote.
I'd look at the data... number of people who voted, compare it to other years and compare it to registered parties, most all people vote for how they're registered. Find a discrepancy somewhere that doesn't add up.
no...
rasmussen is reporting that a whopping 85% of arizona voters have no confidence in the midterm election.
Lawl of people they Polled. Only old people answer phone calls.
I don't think any of that is actually true... but I'll happily take some links... stuff like twitter screenshots, infowars or gwp links just don't have much credibility outside of far right websites, so let's try to avoid them.
Here's a link to a 22 page PDF compiled by attorneys that were sent by the RNC to rove among voting sites in Maricopa County on Election Day. (I know, weird the RNC actually does something positive, eh?)
https://files.catbox.moe/0n2ypl.pdf
If you read these reports, submitted by attorneys talking to Republican poll observers, and come away thinking that the Maricopa election was a legitmately conducted election, I'll be completely amazed.
And this is only some of the observations, from some of the attorneys, and some of the poll workers, election judges, and poll observers on that day. I hope you can find time to at least scan this document; it's worth it, I promise.
You need data that supports eye witness testimony. If video evidence disputes eye witness testimony, then it's thrown away. Put it in front of a judge, but if it's like 2020, it'll be dismissed as frivolous.
I'd like to gently point out that my link was provided in response to your post:
We were discussing what you thought was true, and your reply switched switched to what you think will hold up in court.
I'm still curious: do you, personally, find the 22 pages of attorney observations from poll observers to be credible? Can you really read that, and believe that the Maricopa midterm election was legitimately conducted? I'm not badgering; I'd really like to know (if you don't mind.)
the fucking videos have been released. they're all over social media. you think someone went to the polling site, dressed up as a fake poll worker, and faked a whole argument?
just look in this sub you fucking retard
How about something that isn't from this board? A credible source, for example.
So what? Straight from the mouth of Jesus?
that's not how sourcing works you fucking idiot. primary sources are still primary sources regardless of who posts them.
a primary source posted by alex jones or "some random twitter user" is de facto more reliable than a secondary source posted by fox or NYT. didn't you go to first grade?
Like more people voting for treasurer than governor
Lol. Treasurer is a moderate republican aka UNI PARTY to this forum. Kari is a fire breathing MAGA... Arizona does not like Fire Breathing Maga.
I found these... dint' really read them, but one says it's not true that the treasurer had more votes: https://www.yahoo.com/video/posts-distort-arizona-vote-totals-192410125.html
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-arizona-kari-lake-votes-206018231574
The difference here is that more than 50% of the machines in one County - Maricopa, had a problem and many people couldn't vote given the length of time required to vote and they had jobs.
If they get enough affidavits from people who couldn't vote because of the malfunctions, maybe it will work. Who knows.
BTW, I upvoted you, not sure why you are getting downvoted - you have a legitimate point of view.
I often play devils advocate.
Not fraud. Disenfranchisement. There is precedent. Not that I’m holding my breath….. for two weeks
What a stupid argument. When they register fake people or swap addresses to mail ballots to no where they can just as easily adjust voter registration. Literally a few lines of code.
Arizona's been a red state for decades, you would think there would be at least one person still around who could identify fake people being registered. The problem is that there's never that evidence.
The parties are fake. So your whole argument lacks any kind of rational basis.
Republicans have no ideology except what the federal government orders them to do, and they don't care if they win or lose.
This is observable fact.
Glowies gonna glow
why would they make machines malfunction, if they can simply change the outcome, it doesn't make sense
They did the exact same thing in 2020 and they told voters with malfunctioning machines "your ballot image has been saved, even of your vote has not registered. If you choose to leave now without getting back in line to revote your vote will be adjudicated" which people thought meant a human would look at the image and pick who they voted for. In actuality, the ballot images were replaced by the machine based on server provided instructions as to which bubbles to fill in in the new "adjudicated" ballot image.
In 2022, many understood the scam and voters were not asked to let their vote be "adjudicated". Instead, they either didn't vote or they put their ballot in "box 3" which we know were later never counted because as observed by observers they just dumped them into duffel bags of already counted ballots.
So Arizonans in some ways "beat the cheat" on the machines except many just gave up and went home or their "box 3 vote" was never counted.
This is just day of voting. The fraud in early voting is also off the chain, with ballots mailed out to irrelevant addresses in batches and ballot mules stuffing ballots.
All in all, the system is completely fraudulent and definitely neither covert nor smooth.
But all you need to convince many is iron discipline in the propaganda, most politicians (who are corrupt), and above all the FBI. If they refuse to acknowledge all the evidence there will still be fools and shills like you that refuse to accept the obvious.
11/28 we will find out.
These delays are because their statistics show they can still generate ad revenue by keeping this thing going
so why the fuck didn't they do this in 2020?
Because many were caught off guard by the corruption that has entangled our election process.
More and more are waking up.
it was cool to watch the state legislatures in 2020 election hearings start to pay attention when evidence was laid out, and you could see them perk up as they realized what happened. lets fuckin go!
Because they were gutless.
AZ is lost forever if you let Hobbs steal it with this much evidence.
It will be certified by default on the 28th. This does nothing
Hey someone that knows about Arizona Law.
https://trendingpolitics.com/a-third-county-is-suspending-its-certification-of-arizonas-state-election-out-of-solidarity-knab/?utm_source=ElWiz
Refusing to accept a stolen election is white supremacy. REEEEEE
Seems the only Republican with balls in the USA is a woman
Just can’t see anything happening… if fraud is proven here it’ll open up everything else and they just won’t allow it…
“They just won’t allow it.”
I keep seeing this, but I don’t know that “their” control over the process is that complete anymore. You didn’t see county governments publicly holding up certification in 2020.
Katie the Hobbgoblin is such an ugly ass bitch. That's how you know these people are evil, the corruption shows through in their looks. There is not a single decent looking Democrat female out there, not one, all wicked gross women.
One look at Hobbs and you can tell shes a crazy evil cunt.
She’s got the eyes and glasses they all have.
Not to mention, shes ugly. If you walk into a classroom - who would you want to see as the teacher?
"People with glasses are smart." - Peter Griffin.
There doent appear to be muchof a backlash from the public over counties not certifying. That tells me that nobody voted for this bitch HOBBS.
Let me know when the state isn’t certified by 11/28
Conceding an election in this day and age is foolish
I first saw a post here that it was four states. then it was only two. Then four again. Now only three?
It's been confusing because of some early and false reporting. Cochise and Mohave said they're delaying, that was solid info. There was some question about Yavapai, but it's now clear they're delaying until Nov 28.
The reporting that Gila County was going to delay their certification was just bad info. They already certified on Friday, apparently. https://trendingpolitics.com/a-third-county-is-suspending-its-certification-of-arizonas-state-election-out-of-solidarity-knab/
I think there are four counties already
It's been confusing because of some early and false reporting. Cochise and Mohave said they're delaying, and there was some question about Yavapai. But Yavapai has now said they're delaying until Nov 28.
The reporting that Gila County was going to delay their certification was just bad info. They already certified on Friday, apparently. https://trendingpolitics.com/a-third-county-is-suspending-its-certification-of-arizonas-state-election-out-of-solidarity-knab/
thanks for the updates. I wonder about the party affiliation of the "election officials" in each district lol
You're welcome. About party affiliation...I still have a hard time wrapping my brain around the fact that four of the five members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors are Republican, and so is the Maricopa County Recorder, Stephen Richer.
So in AZ, some of the worst damage to election integrity is being done by Republicans (it's a sad state of affairs.) The uniparty is alive and well...
As far as I'm concerned, we have the Federal Workforce and The People and the Federal Workforce is at war with us as to who rules this country. We have the numbers, which they are trying hard to diminish and weaken. We have the numbers and the Patriots but a whole lot of people are are still sleeping.
Agreed, I know a frustrating number of conservatives (mostly older) that still think news only becomes real when it's covered by the main stream media (Fox in particular.)
And that's sadly ironic, given that almost all of the personal video statements I've seen (of disenfranchised Maricopa voters) look to be made by older white conservatives...the same group of people I have the hardest time convincing that serious election fraud is affecting election outcomes.
Even if the coming lawsuits by Kari Lake, Abe Hamadeh and others don't prevail, hopefully they push the reality of what's happening a little further into public awareness with some people. I'm sure pulling for some wins, though.
there has to be some wins -- any reasonably intelligent person realizes the many ways in which cheating takes place, but even more scary is the Federal Workforce is literally subverting the will of The People and if the Judicial Branch, which I already believe is a big part of the problem, doesn't start clamping down on this, the Judicial Branch will become as credible as mainstream media
first, fraud doesn't have to be found (but it will) . The legal battle is going to be about the disenfranchisement AND discrimination of voters -- serious violations of voter's Constitutional Rights.
The fraud found and the discrepancy of treatment of two different class of voters, such as mail-in ballot voters vs day-of voters is CLEAR. Thus the only real remedy is a new election. Hopefully the fraud found will be used as leverage to insist on one-day voting, ID, and polls stay open until last person in line when polls closed, votes.
When separate but equal isn't even equal
I'm old enough to remember when the left proclaimed that separate was NEVER equal.
I thought there was 4 now
One county out of 15 means that the state cannot certify.
Historically, your point is well made. If it does change, it will be Arizona. Hard to not be a doomer, I get it. What are you doing to change things?
This was my understanding lol
Hobbs investigated her voter fraud and said there is no problem.
2 weeks!
The fact it’s taking this long means everyone is about to be disappointed. It doesn’t take 2 weeks to know that a new election must be administered.
We know the count isn't coming out her way, you idiot. She is depending on the followup.
No moron. I wasn’t talking about the election we all know is stolen. I’m talking about discarding the original election and re-administer. It doesn’t take this long to make a decision unless you want it to be like 2020 all over again.
I thought it was 4
Az Pede here, we are Maga Country! The libtards have invaded Phoenix and suburbs with their wokeism but the wild west is still alive. We are among the greatest frontiers that lived,with the cowboy mindset of God and country. We have only begun to fight.
That lesbian goblina didn't win jack shit and everyone knows it.
Unfortunately, it will be a cold day in hell before Maricopa County even acknowledges there might be a slight problem.
Notice how they told her (Hobbs) to get rid of the butchy look and grow longer hair
Katie the bank robbing cunt thinks she can keep the money.
Looks like we have about a week and half left.
They are uniting and it’s a glorious sight to behold!
MOAR
People are talking about recounts and audits like Maricopa didn't have the world's most scrutinized audit that found tens of thousands of unconstitutionally counted ballots and nobody did shit about it. I hope this goes the way y'all want it but I can't be the only one getting tired of hopium. Two more weeks.... to hold off the actual revolution.
I just want to see Kari Lake fuck up her enemies and Globalists.
Please Lord. Get her in there.
She is the only political leader I now really like after Trump.
Yesterday I learned DeSantist was a Yale guy and fucked around with Skull and Bones. I read about his work in Gitmo. Now I do not trust DeSantis whatsoever.
I always thought he was pro baseball player and local business guy who made it as governor. I had no idea he was a Skull and Bones familiar involved in the Iraq War torture machine.
Im done with DeSantis.
So I pray Kari Lake rises.
So what’s the next step? Does AZ have to do a new election if not all counties certify?
Counties HAVE to by law certify by Nov 28th.
You vote your way in, you shoot your way out. We are in between those two options right now. But everybody knows the right has no balls, and will certainly not take the necessary step. The left place to win, the right place to lose with dignity