If all the republican voters went behind Palin she would have won. Ranked choice voting actually gave us a real good chance as we had 2 different candidates that both had like 26%. Would have had more than 50% but many didn't pick Palin as their second choice and picked the dem over her.
The GOP guy threw it.
Without ranked choice voting Palin and the GOP guy would have split the vote and never had a chance. His voters are fucking stupid and didn't support Palin after he lost and like 30% of his voters went to the other party
Alaska has an incredibly tiny population though not much over 700k. Makes it far too easy to game the system like they are doing without much to do about it.
The problem is that Republicans that really don't like Palin will vote for their guy first and then second choice the Democrat. And then Palin told her voters not to enter a second choice. She lost this on her own. Ranked choice can't save us from bad candidates that scare off voters.
That’s not quite how it works, you only vote once but put the candidates in the order of most to least want. If your first choice loses it goes to your second. Should mean the person most wanted will win but with Dems cheating and gop stupidity can make things turn out horrible
That’s more than one vote. And your opponent will use it to vote for the candidate your side runs but isn’t as popular. They understood this. Now Alaska will be giving more handouts to the do-nothing drunken natives, only not just the oil dividend, they’ll be giving them reparations for what Russians did.
But it is still only counted as one at the end. Only one vote is added to the total not 4. The total number of votes doesn’t double in each round they do.
The issue gop has is they will never have the same guts or intelligence to use the system to our own advantage where the left will on top of their 20 other ways of cheating
Like I said ya Gop dropped the ball hard on learning to win with this system where liberals didn’t. Though honestly no idea if that was something that could happen but not even putting dem on you ticket is a valid strategy gop could have aimed for along with ensuring regardless of outcome that they made sure their voters put the other rep second
You're wasting your breath. Too many Republican voters have been told that rank choice voting is evil, which is why we keep losing in rank choice elections. Palin even told her people not to rank a second choice, and Republican voters that didn't like her ranked a Democrat as their second. Palin lost this all on her own.
I dunno about other states but in Alaska it was revealed that it was literally put in place by Murkowski's former staffers explicitly for the purpose of keeping her "elected". More to the point it seems as if the GOP is determined to try and split the vote whenever possible, whereas the Dem's seemingly only ever put forward one candidate, thus ensuring that even though the dem's lose the popular vote by miles they stay in office because the republican votes get split between two or more different candidates.
The Alaska election system uses a jungle primary and the top 4 candidates go on to the general election. If GOP wants to have a primary, chances are that both make it to the general.
Welcome to RINOs were with Democrats. Hello Uniparty. That in the RCV there is cheating by throwing away the ballot if not all the 'choices' were made. Usually Rep ballots get tossed.
Rank in theory shouldn’t have that issue because even in a split the remaining votes should go to the higher republican, but thanks to the stupidity of gop you get situations were enough reps won’t put the other rep as their second choice giving the dem victory
It gives an enormous advantage to a minority party. In a normal election Democrats are about 35% of votes in Alaska. But, here because most voters didn't put a second choice, their votes are eliminated from the pool if their first choice is eliminated. Since the 2 Republicans split the vote the Democrat always advances. At that point they pick up votes from RINOs who rank Democrats over America First politicians.
There was an election in Australia using RCV where a guy was elected after getting like 0.2% of the vote.
Its a terrible terrible system. You'll never see these Democrat activist groups pushing RCV push for it in a blue-dominated state.
Yeah, but Democrats put Democrat first and RINO second and RINOs put RINO first and Democrat second.
This is exactly how Murkowski won.
RCV favors the middle of road candidate because they pick up the most 2nd choices. In a potential race between Democrats, RINOs, and MAGA, that is RINO.
That's always been the purpose of RINOs. They are the "sensible" opposition to Democrats that exist to make sure nobody who will actually drain the swamp is elected during the periods when propaganda fails and the electorate is fed up with Democrats.
Murkowski was already ahead with just first-choice ballots counted in the Nov. 8 election. Before the elimination round, Murkowski had 43.4% of the vote to Tshibaka’s 42.6%.
you can argue whatever but the truth is Tshibaka just didn't get the votes, old 1st past the post way or this new way.
Lisa won because she got democratic and leftover republican votes. Democrats don't put up an actual candidate instead vote for her. It's a corrupt system to keep her in place. She would lose in a proper primary system.
Their was still massive fraud and two weeks of "counting". Too many of our elections are charades, but that doesn't mean you stay home, we have to learn from Brazil's example.
Gtfo RINO scumbag. And you morons slamming Alaskan’s have zero idea what you’re talking about. Every election since Lisa took over from Frank has been corrupt as fuck. My small town of 5 thousand voted 90% Trump and we hated that crooked cunt Murkowski. This ranked voting, which no one wanted either, is responsible. They very few Dems in town (all Federal workers) voted for this cuntbag too by ranking her 2 with a Dem who had zero chance just to fuck with us because Lisa is anti Trump and a uniparty hack.
Begich lost to Sarah Palin TWICE, yet he stayed in anyway to split the vote. Palin destroyed Lisa Murkowski's dad's career, and McStain and McConnell gave her the VP slot so they could feed her and her family to the media wolves as vengeance. She is not part of the Swamp, the Swamp hates her and she is a big Trump supporter.
At this point pass as much climate giveaway nonsense as possible. Sooner we let the Democrats collapse the country the sooner people will wake up and finally start doing something to put these communists in the ground.
They will get a few RINOs in the house, easily. Some are always retiring, and can be bought off, or blackmailed. That's why the had to keep the house numbers low, so they could do it.
In this case, Murkowski got some of that FTX scandal money through McConnell. Why haven't we heard anything about the donations made to Murkowski's campaign that were illegal?
Tshibaka should have pulverized Murkowski, especially after the bullshit that hag pulled in DC. Tshibaka couldn't pull it off, because she was a terrible candidate.
Trump fucked up another pick and there is no denying that. Of course nobody here will ever admit any of Trump's fuck ups.
She's lived in Alaska since before her first birthday, so she isn't a carpetbagger. Which makes me think the rest of your statement is bullshit . . . which it is.
They should stop the state oil-wealrh payments every Alaskan resident receives, since they seem to love leftists now. Why should the people there benefit from oil?
If you protest you'll be attacked and killed by Antifa on one side and by the police on the other side. Then the FBI will hunt the survivors down like dogs. Things are gonna have to get a lot worse before anybody's ready to do anything.
If you don't protest you'll be attacked and killed by Antifa on one side and by the police on the other side. Then the FBI will hunt the survivors down like dogs. You need to sack the fuck up and stop being cowards.
How? One of the few states that I would expect to go that way. Is this the Eskimo vote? Do they know how their self reliance will be fucked by these people? I don't get it.
Fucking scam. Don't they have a run off??? So, less people vote for the RINO and she wins? and a 65% Republican state has a Democrat congresswoman because 4 other Republicans split the vote and the Dems win? Fuck Alaska it's fucked.
RCV needs to go - that is the demorats game. We need one candidate, one vote, one day to vote, paper ballots and hand-counting to be done before sun-up the next day!
Establishment Begich voters voted Democrat second place instead of Palin. Democrats voted Murkowski #2, but the fix was in from turtle man anyway. Welcome to the uniparty establishment Alaska.
Ranked choice voting... where you let democrats decide which GOP candidate wins.
Yang’s Forward Party is pushing this hard, we better wake up to it https://thefulcrum.us/ranked-choice-voting-2658767364
Even with "ranked choice voting" they didn't "win reelection"; they "stole reelection."
More redpill videos and info here:
https://patriots.win/p/15HIhWzTCT/
Yeah as bad as RCV is, they “found” enough votes to put that evil woman back in office.
If all the republican voters went behind Palin she would have won. Ranked choice voting actually gave us a real good chance as we had 2 different candidates that both had like 26%. Would have had more than 50% but many didn't pick Palin as their second choice and picked the dem over her.
The GOP guy threw it.
Without ranked choice voting Palin and the GOP guy would have split the vote and never had a chance. His voters are fucking stupid and didn't support Palin after he lost and like 30% of his voters went to the other party
Without RCV they would have a primary like literally every other state.
Only way RINO and a DEM can win in Alaska.
Alaska has an incredibly tiny population though not much over 700k. Makes it far too easy to game the system like they are doing without much to do about it.
He told his voters to rank the dem second, not palin. It’s retarded.
The problem is that Republicans that really don't like Palin will vote for their guy first and then second choice the Democrat. And then Palin told her voters not to enter a second choice. She lost this on her own. Ranked choice can't save us from bad candidates that scare off voters.
Can you elaborate why rcv helps democrats but not republicans?
Because only Republican states are stupid enough to have it?
Because everyone gets to vote more than once. Which is a crime in 48 other states.
This right here 👆👆👆
That’s not quite how it works, you only vote once but put the candidates in the order of most to least want. If your first choice loses it goes to your second. Should mean the person most wanted will win but with Dems cheating and gop stupidity can make things turn out horrible
That’s more than one vote. And your opponent will use it to vote for the candidate your side runs but isn’t as popular. They understood this. Now Alaska will be giving more handouts to the do-nothing drunken natives, only not just the oil dividend, they’ll be giving them reparations for what Russians did.
That’s still not quite right no new votes are being added just moved around.
You have four candidates, you alone rank them 1,2,3, and 4. You have voted four times.
Thats not quite right. 1+1+1+1=1. Sincerely Democrat voter.
But it is still only counted as one at the end. Only one vote is added to the total not 4. The total number of votes doesn’t double in each round they do.
The issue gop has is they will never have the same guts or intelligence to use the system to our own advantage where the left will on top of their 20 other ways of cheating
Yeah but only one of the votes gets counted! Aha! Haha! Ha!
Think of this like having several tours.
What about those who refuse to rank a second vote . They screw everyone else .that’s what happened
Like I said ya Gop dropped the ball hard on learning to win with this system where liberals didn’t. Though honestly no idea if that was something that could happen but not even putting dem on you ticket is a valid strategy gop could have aimed for along with ensuring regardless of outcome that they made sure their voters put the other rep second
You're wasting your breath. Too many Republican voters have been told that rank choice voting is evil, which is why we keep losing in rank choice elections. Palin even told her people not to rank a second choice, and Republican voters that didn't like her ranked a Democrat as their second. Palin lost this all on her own.
It is evil, and she had help.
Everyone including Republicans. They just chose not to use the system to win.
In one rcv election you run several tours at once. Is this illegal to have several tours?
I dunno about other states but in Alaska it was revealed that it was literally put in place by Murkowski's former staffers explicitly for the purpose of keeping her "elected". More to the point it seems as if the GOP is determined to try and split the vote whenever possible, whereas the Dem's seemingly only ever put forward one candidate, thus ensuring that even though the dem's lose the popular vote by miles they stay in office because the republican votes get split between two or more different candidates.
Its GOPs fault to put several candidates to split votes between. If voters put all GOP candidates first, votes will not be split.
If dipshits in Alaska also didn't use rcv and just voted ONCE for ONE candidate and left the rest blank, rcv would die on the vine.
Don't leave it blank, write in Harambe as 2nd.
Your vote just gets tossed if your candidate didn't make it. RCV is designed to destroy fairness.
This. Came here to say this. When your enemy makes a move you calculate and counter appropriately. Duh! Dipshits for sure.
The Alaska election system uses a jungle primary and the top 4 candidates go on to the general election. If GOP wants to have a primary, chances are that both make it to the general.
Welcome to RINOs were with Democrats. Hello Uniparty. That in the RCV there is cheating by throwing away the ballot if not all the 'choices' were made. Usually Rep ballots get tossed.
Rank in theory shouldn’t have that issue because even in a split the remaining votes should go to the higher republican, but thanks to the stupidity of gop you get situations were enough reps won’t put the other rep as their second choice giving the dem victory
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The GOP isn't determined to split the vote. Voters are. They don't want GOP candidates, but the GOP runs them aside outsiders anyway.
It gives an enormous advantage to a minority party. In a normal election Democrats are about 35% of votes in Alaska. But, here because most voters didn't put a second choice, their votes are eliminated from the pool if their first choice is eliminated. Since the 2 Republicans split the vote the Democrat always advances. At that point they pick up votes from RINOs who rank Democrats over America First politicians.
There was an election in Australia using RCV where a guy was elected after getting like 0.2% of the vote.
Its a terrible terrible system. You'll never see these Democrat activist groups pushing RCV push for it in a blue-dominated state.
I consider this as an advantage, you want the MAGA party over GOP, right? So, you put MAGA first, libertarian second and GOP third.
Yeah, but Democrats put Democrat first and RINO second and RINOs put RINO first and Democrat second.
This is exactly how Murkowski won.
RCV favors the middle of road candidate because they pick up the most 2nd choices. In a potential race between Democrats, RINOs, and MAGA, that is RINO.
That's always been the purpose of RINOs. They are the "sensible" opposition to Democrats that exist to make sure nobody who will actually drain the swamp is elected during the periods when propaganda fails and the electorate is fed up with Democrats.
so get more votes, make sure your candidate isn't the one knocked out in the first round.
Our candidate made it to the final round... all the Dems voted for the RINO.
Murkowski was already ahead with just first-choice ballots counted in the Nov. 8 election. Before the elimination round, Murkowski had 43.4% of the vote to Tshibaka’s 42.6%.
you can argue whatever but the truth is Tshibaka just didn't get the votes, old 1st past the post way or this new way.
Lisa won because she got democratic and leftover republican votes. Democrats don't put up an actual candidate instead vote for her. It's a corrupt system to keep her in place. She would lose in a proper primary system.
aka making sure their pick wins.
Their was still massive fraud and two weeks of "counting". Too many of our elections are charades, but that doesn't mean you stay home, we have to learn from Brazil's example.
The upward trajectory for unemployment in Alaska will be very dramatic over the next 2 years. Reap what you sow Alaskans
Arent a lot of them military too? I cant wait for AK to turn super woke.
Gtfo RINO scumbag. And you morons slamming Alaskan’s have zero idea what you’re talking about. Every election since Lisa took over from Frank has been corrupt as fuck. My small town of 5 thousand voted 90% Trump and we hated that crooked cunt Murkowski. This ranked voting, which no one wanted either, is responsible. They very few Dems in town (all Federal workers) voted for this cuntbag too by ranking her 2 with a Dem who had zero chance just to fuck with us because Lisa is anti Trump and a uniparty hack.
This.
Then why your state reps employ this fuck ass system? What you gonna do to make em pay for it?
OK, now do Murkowski fag.
Begich lost to Sarah Palin TWICE, yet he stayed in anyway to split the vote. Palin destroyed Lisa Murkowski's dad's career, and McStain and McConnell gave her the VP slot so they could feed her and her family to the media wolves as vengeance. She is not part of the Swamp, the Swamp hates her and she is a big Trump supporter.
Fuck off, Maltipoo.
doesn't matter - every democrat in congress votes the way they are told. peltota will vote 100% with dementia joe
Ah, so this is Anaconda's latest alt.
I don’t get why he’s still here tbh.
Deep state decides for Americans. Everything else is smoke screens and mirrors.
Fraud
Why on earth would you think they actually voted for this?
This swamp hag won't fucking leave.
The senate is looking weak for Republicans..too many RINOS that vote with the Dems..
They can get treaties passed.
I'm concerned with Climate BS.
At this point pass as much climate giveaway nonsense as possible. Sooner we let the Democrats collapse the country the sooner people will wake up and finally start doing something to put these communists in the ground.
Hello, carbon credits.
$2+ trillion/year heist.
They will get a few RINOs in the house, easily. Some are always retiring, and can be bought off, or blackmailed. That's why the had to keep the house numbers low, so they could do it.
You think there aren't 6 cucks that will vote with the left in the House? Are you retarded?
America is lost just stop caring.. i'll continue voting but I'm under not allusion that anything we do matters unless Trump wins.
In this case, Murkowski got some of that FTX scandal money through McConnell. Why haven't we heard anything about the donations made to Murkowski's campaign that were illegal?
Murkowski would would have been defeated, but alas, Trump's pick for Alaska was terrible.
I have already lost count on the number of terrible picks Trump has had through the years.
Trumps pick beat her in a straight up race. RCV won Murkowski the seat by letting dems vote twice.
Tshibaka should have pulverized Murkowski, especially after the bullshit that hag pulled in DC. Tshibaka couldn't pull it off, because she was a terrible candidate.
Trump fucked up another pick and there is no denying that. Of course nobody here will ever admit any of Trump's fuck ups.
Bro.... how do you think the other candidate got only 9% of the vote?
Cause DEMOCRATS VOTED MURKOWSKI!!!
Tshibaka locked the MAGA vote down! But MAGA is not majority. 30% RINOS and 30% Dems COMBINED to give Murkowski the win.
Correct. Like I said, Tshibaka was a terrible candidate. Thank you for confirming that.
Sometimes I wonder if retardation is contagious cause more people seem to catch it every day.
She's lived in Alaska since before her first birthday, so she isn't a carpetbagger. Which makes me think the rest of your statement is bullshit . . . which it is.
I fucking hate everyone in my state that voted for ranked choice bullshit. Wish all of the transplants could be hunted and killed on the spot.
It was put in in 2020, so there’s a high likelihood that none of you really voted for it. The commies really had 4 years to plan and then pounce.
They most likely can
Thanks, McConnell! How many more years of her voting with Democrats? Holy shit, this is just the last straw.
Enjoy Alaska! Hope you love burn barrels.
Rank choice voting. Alaska is a bunch of fucking dumb fucks. Way to go ya bunch of morons
They should stop the state oil-wealrh payments every Alaskan resident receives, since they seem to love leftists now. Why should the people there benefit from oil?
Bitch McConnell would like to thank FTX money for making this steal possible
Are ya’ll ready to protest this shit yet, or do you need more time ?
2 more weeks…
If you protest you'll be attacked and killed by Antifa on one side and by the police on the other side. Then the FBI will hunt the survivors down like dogs. Things are gonna have to get a lot worse before anybody's ready to do anything.
There’s a J6 vigil in DC everyday https://j6patriotnews.com/ and no one is bothering them
If you don't protest you'll be attacked and killed by Antifa on one side and by the police on the other side. Then the FBI will hunt the survivors down like dogs. You need to sack the fuck up and stop being cowards.
Are you out protesting it daily?
Daily no, but I do have an interest when I take vacation soon.
Never ever EVER ranked voting.
By using other people's votes. How can a vote be used twice?
You vote for up to 4 people. If your 1st candidate loses your vote counts for your second candidate.. it's 4 votes that way.
Blue Alaskafornia
Damn ranked choice voting
How? One of the few states that I would expect to go that way. Is this the Eskimo vote? Do they know how their self reliance will be fucked by these people? I don't get it.
You're looking at a textbook example of how the Republican establishment are perfectly happy fucking everyone over, including other Republicans.
Fucking scam. Don't they have a run off??? So, less people vote for the RINO and she wins? and a 65% Republican state has a Democrat congresswoman because 4 other Republicans split the vote and the Dems win? Fuck Alaska it's fucked.
How much FXT campaign cash did Mitch give the bitch Murkowski?
"The McConnell-aligned super PAC Senate Leadership Fund has spent more than $5 million in ads" https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/25/alaska-senate-murkowski-mcconnell-trump/
Murkowski's questionable donations (FTX as we have found out!!!) should have removed her from the race!
Thanks to the Cocaine Turdle. Fuck the GOP.
shocked.meme
Incoming morons not understanding what happened, who refuse to take even 90 seconds to figure out how RCV works >_>
RCV needs to go - that is the demorats game. We need one candidate, one vote, one day to vote, paper ballots and hand-counting to be done before sun-up the next day!
Establishment Begich voters voted Democrat second place instead of Palin. Democrats voted Murkowski #2, but the fix was in from turtle man anyway. Welcome to the uniparty establishment Alaska.
The one race McConnel helped win.
Ranked choice is another way of stealing elections.
BS!
All of the Alaskan results were obviously rigged.
100%. They ran ads about how "it has always taken weeks to declare a winner." Uhhh, no, it fucking hasn't. Stop cheating, globalist commie fucks.
The algorithm has spoken.
Fraud. Ruins. Everything.
Thanks, McCuck.
Hope Alaska gets this fixed. So the dems got another seat.
need to remove their stupid ranking system ... its priority if we want to save AK from these rino/traitors
Lisa looks like a dried up man-gina...
I’m Alaskan an we got screwed. Many stubborn republicans refused to make a second choice in protest to the rcv , idk they even voted
Too bad the true winners won’t fight for their stolen election, like Kari Lake! We are going to have to figure out how to eat them at their own game!
Fraud.. 100 percent fraud
Time to break out the Heart Attack Gun.
Same old crooks get reelected. Fuck this country.
Announced the day before Thanksgiving...right when nobody is paying attention.
Stole..not won