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Nobody votes for higher rent, food, gas and crime …NOBODY. America better get a handle on this rampant cheating or the country is going down in flames faster than the f*****g Hindenburg. This is TREASON people. If Americans can’t rely on free and fair elections then there won’t be an America. (i.postimg.cc)
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– BenDoverAssho 145 points 66 days ago +146 / -1

Red states need to become more independent from the federal government and form alliances with other red states for mutual aid and support. Immigration is one area they can unify and secure the southern border. If a person is young and fit enough, consider enlisting in to your state's State Militia. Joining and supporting your state's " Secession Movement " is another activity to get involved in as well.

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– SecedeNOW 69 points 66 days ago +69 / -0

This exactly. They can gradually kick the feds out, agency by agency one by one and refuse all federal aid.

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– RosettaStone 41 points 66 days ago +41 / -0

Especially, kick out the Department of Education.

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– Worldtraveler0405 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

Because this will lead to education at home e.g. home-schooling?

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– DonuteaterReturns 2 points 66 days ago +3 / -1

It'll let states write a better curriculum. Public schools should be somewhere you can send your child without worry.

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– Worldtraveler0405 1 point 65 days ago +1 / -0

That's easy. No LGBTQIA+ agenda or state-endorsed mental slavery.

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– Talen_Card 1 point 61 days ago +1 / -0

"Common core education" needs to be ended.

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– mareecopa 12 points 66 days ago +12 / -0

This will put the red states at disadvantage. The feds dole out a lot of gibs. See the recent FTX scandal or other shenanigans in Silly Con Valley

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– RosettaStone 28 points 66 days ago +28 / -0

It will make for some interesting confrontations, when a group of red states take the position, "We've opted out of federal 'benefit' X, so we demand that the federal taxes in our state be reduced by our portion of the budget of service X."

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– mareecopa 23 points 66 days ago +23 / -0

This, effectively, is a secession.

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– RosettaStone 28 points 66 days ago +28 / -0

Or a return to the original form of the Republic, with the States being much more independent.

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– mareecopa 18 points 66 days ago +18 / -0

I would take that. Fuck the Feds. All the woke agenda is being pushed by the federal government via different DEI programs which get in the way of doing business. Trump couldn't notice that?

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– HeftyAdministration8 12 points 66 days ago +12 / -0

A lot of the problems in America today are due to the growth of the federal government. Who wins the presidency has become a life-or-death struggle because he impacts so many policies nationwide.

If the federal government was cut back down to size, it would be more "shaking my head at the jerk in the oval office" and less "FUCK I'm being forced to live a way I don't want." That would be true no matter who got elected/selected/whatever.

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– War_Hamster 7 points 66 days ago +7 / -0

The way it is done is very important.

Gotta start with nullification.

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– kekkekthefrog -14 points 66 days ago +2 / -16

won't happen. Republican lead state could not survive without fedral benefits. That's the dirty secret no one wants to talk about

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– Kaarous 11 points 66 days ago +12 / -1

Utterly false. The idea that red states are net takers of taxpayer money is based on counting federal military bases as receivers of federal dollars.

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– TheNorseman 6 points 66 days ago +6 / -0

Yes they could, we done it before.

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– BenDoverAssho 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

I'm not going to argue which state gets more federal money, instead, let's talk basic principles. I think red states are better off going through a period of financial " discomfort" but eventually becoming financially independent from the federal government rather than sucking the government teat and becoming evermore dependent upon a non-representative authoritarian Socialist government. In addition, it may be possible to avoid a civil war, if red states can retain their conservative ways without too much interference from the central government. In the long run, the Union may hold together a little bit longer if the conservative states can maintain some distance from a meddlesome central government.

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– Rosarian 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

They can relocate welfare recipients to blue states and stop the gibs. A lot of the illegals would either stop coming or only enter via blue states.

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– BenDoverAssho 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

You're absolutely right. Generous welfare benefits are like a giant shit magnet. California is a prime example.

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– kissprinciple 6 points 66 days ago +8 / -2

So red states will be at a disadvantage if they stop the things that are destroying America?

Money comes with strings attached. This is not a hard concept.

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– mareecopa 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

GOP has no intention of stopping the gravy train of woke BS. They even think they are getting a good deal laundering $1B for a hundred bucks. We are so efficient! Even the corruption is streamlined!

Can I have some of your money?

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– kissprinciple -2 points 66 days ago +1 / -3

Before you were wrong, now you're just incoherent. I look forward to your next comment.

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– mareecopa 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

How much did Mitch get from the FTX scam?

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– RosettaStone 2 points 66 days ago +3 / -1

User name checks out.

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– Trailjogger11 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

Natural resource red states can just take back federal lands and mineral rights to reduce reliance on fed bucks.

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– Standtogether 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

It will.

Theyll just have to set up a parallel federal government to dole out their own gibs ...wait a second.

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– DixMcCoy 1 point 66 days ago +2 / -1

Lincoln was a petty despot... and I'm a yankee.

That is all.

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– donald1771 -22 points 66 days ago +6 / -28

Bitch puhlease. As soon as a bad storm hits your house and blows it away, you gonna come running to suckle from the FEMA tits, just like Dasantimonious did after hurricane Ian

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– TheNorseman 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

What world are you living in?

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– donald1771 -5 points 66 days ago +3 / -8

florida. Sanctimonious the clown went kissing Biden's boots as soon as he needed FEMA money praising him and kissing his ass

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– Exsultate 28 points 66 days ago +32 / -4

Blue states cannot survive without Red state money. Liberals are parasitic. They cannot survive without an underclass to exploit. If liberals have no labor force they can't steal their hard-earned money to give to the underclass for their votes. This why cheating is now occurring due to the fact there is not enough underclass to actually win through voting hence all the illegal immigration. These bastards have sold their souls to satan a long time ago. It's time to get rid of them.

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– TheNorseman 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Obviously because liberals don't work.

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– Granny 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Well Texas better go on high alert, because they're trying to turn Texas blue!!!

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– Badfinz_FL 0 points 66 days ago +1 / -1

when you control the majority of the fed government you can make the $$$ got wherever you want. No one to stop you.

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– YukFoo -7 points 66 days ago +4 / -11

FYI, other than TX- every other red state gets more money from the feds than they contribute in tax revenue.

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– Exsultate 4 points 66 days ago +5 / -1

Lay off the MSM Pravda.

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– comlib -1 points 66 days ago +3 / -4

But it's true.

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– YukFoo -6 points 66 days ago +3 / -9

It took 15 seconds to fact check: https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700

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– YukFoo -10 points 66 days ago +2 / -12

Sorry. It is objectively true. Try looking it up yourself before impugning people who actually know what they're talking about.

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– HoganP 3 points 66 days ago +5 / -2

It's objectively false because it's stupid, contrived pseudologic. It's meaningless correlation intended only to rationalize whatever bullshit the left is peddling when it is mentioned.

State governments recieve federal funding for a variety of things and the federal government funds things independent of the state governments within states. This will all vary depending on how the federal government determines all of that administratively, with spending legislation, etc.

Separately, individuals and businesses within states have income confiscated by the federal government based on the tax code. None of it is a "contribution" by the states in any form as states do not pay taxes.

Not unlike the gender wage gap, one really has nothing to do with the other, but it is nothing more than an appeal to emotion in the form of something that sounds like logic to people too stupid to actually evaluate what's being suggested. And it's always followed by some even greater feat of lefty bullshit they are trying to justify.

Government spending is not an excuse for more government spending. Taxation isn't an excuse for more taxation. Everyone in the states being mentioned would be in favor of reducing the size and scope of the federal government as a solution to this, if a solution was actually being proposed when it is posited. It never is.

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– YukFoo -2 points 66 days ago +1 / -3

That is all very nice. Now pretend you live in Mississippi or WV and all of your federal dollars just disappeared. Now what? Because the current tax revenue is about half of the federal spending. Where do you make up that money? Or what do you give up? Your roads are already shit. Are you really going to replicate the air traffic control system? What will you do for rail service? How about things like federal courts? How will you adjudicate disputes between your state and others? Or plaintiff that live in other states. Face it, it's a LARP. And the money isn't there- probably even for a net payor of federal revenue like Texas. Because there is too much infrastructure that belongs to the federal government. And then the border states will be saddled with the expense of border security. That alone is billions of dollars. Good luck!!

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– HoganP 3 points 66 days ago +4 / -1

Do you even know what "LARP" means? Because there's nothing in a discussion about taxation or federal spending that involves Larping. Nothing.

Again, only lefty idiots accept this bullshit as a real metric, much less actually posit it in a discussion of anything real. Taxation on individuals is entirely independent of federal spending done in states and federal subsidies of state governments. One has nothing to do with the other.

But like the good little lefty shill that you are, you completely skip over that and extoll the virtues of federal spending. You are failing abysmally at making the argument you seem to think you are making.

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– ultrachaosMAGA 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

People are leaving out..that the majority of federal aid that goes to red states..goes to the blue cities in those states

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– YukFoo -2 points 66 days ago +2 / -4

No they're not. The money goes to fund projects and programs statewide. Their may be some correlation due to concentrations of the population- but the money is routed through the states for the most part.

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– HoganP 1 point 66 days ago +4 / -3

Found the lefty.

This is a bullshit metric that is nothing more than a rationalization for leftist fantasy, whatever it may be that day.

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– YukFoo 1 point 66 days ago +3 / -2

Fuck you faggot. I'm MAGA, just not a LARPer. Prove me wrong. And BTW, you may notice I'm not the one LARPing over these secession fantasies. Don't you ever get tired of people endlessly jerking each other off to the fantasy-du-jour? Counties cannot secede from states. States cannot secede from the country. There's not going to be a shooting civil war. There is no possible way that anything like this happens. Yet at least one a week someone gets out a bottle of lube and passes it around and they all jerk one another off while spinning titillating tales of the coming secession. And meanwhile, the MAGA movement slips further and further behind while these guys honk their little tin horns and spray each other with their squirt flowers.

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– HoganP 1 point 66 days ago +2 / -1

Go off, Cletus. And learn to read. I wasn't talking about any of that so not sure what it is you think you are responding to.

And I did prove you wrong in my other comment. In detail.

ONLY lefties posit the bullshit you did that I was responding to and it's ONLY ever used to justify lefty bullshit. I call em as I see em.

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– YukFoo 0 points 66 days ago +2 / -2

Maybe you should ask your helper read this exchange to you and explain it in shorter words you're able to understand?

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– HoganP 0 points 66 days ago +1 / -1

Hello, Fucktard,

I'm not discussing anything you went off about. Now you're just skipping all of it with an ad hominem.

Get something real, asshole, then come at me with an attitude. Don't get salty with me because I called you on your bullshit and handily shut it down.

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– Kornilovist 1 point 66 days ago +2 / -1

You can't possibly be MAGA with your attitude.

Nope, you're just a run of the mill RINO trying to find his next paycheck from the Feds.

You know what is a LARP for those who are MAGA?

Winning rigged elections. Biggest LARP there is after 2022.

But in come RINO fags like you, who are only part of the movement to get people elected.

It's an impossibility. Arizona showed very clearly. No matter where the vote stands on election day they will just adjust it as necessary afterward.

So then you will deny that there is fraud, and for those of us that have been here for 2 years your true RINO nature will shine through. Denying fraud is like running around saying hamburgers eat people. You sound like a f*cking lunatic.

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– YukFoo -1 points 65 days ago +2 / -3

Is it too much to ask for proof? Or do you just expect me to believe you because you said it?

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– Kornilovist 0 points 65 days ago +1 / -1

Hereistheevidence.com

Get back to me when you've read them all.

Please kindly debunk each one you shill POS.

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– YukFoo -2 points 65 days ago +1 / -3

Do you not understand that mail in ballots take longer to count than same-day votes? And that many states prohibit the counting of mail-in ballots until Election Day. Many legislatures passed laws in the wake of the 2020 debacle that also requires signature matching on mail-in ballots, slowing the count of those votes even further. Finally, the Dem's vote by mail at a rate of 3 or 4 to 1 over Republicans. So the count heavily favoring Republicans on Election Day is no surprise. Nor is Dem's making up ground as mail-in ballots are counted and signatures verified.

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– Kornilovist 1 point 65 days ago +2 / -1

Do you not understand that one vote taking longer to count than another is BS? Even in your own statement you allow that some states count early votes prior to election. Further, in the most recent Arizona fraud are you not aware that Maricopa county held the day of ballots to last?

Your assertion is simply fiction.

Its all the same ballot.

Further, do you not understand that every state has different guidelines for which votes are counted and when per election, so that this blanket explanation is BS?

Your entire premise for this argument is a f_ing lie. Please show me the evidence that all states count all mail in ballots only after all day of ballots are counted. I want to see the actual guidance from Secretaries of State to election workers, per state.

This is fiction. Total fiction until I see the actual in print guidance to state election workers to count only day of before counting only mail in.

You are 100% full sh*t and you won't do the research to convince me because you aren't here to convince anyone, even yourself. You are almost certainly a contractor paid by some federal agency or affiliated quasi government agency /NGO to come on here and push propaganda talking point filth.

I provided you specific evidence above that your assertion is false, in my very first sentences, please now provide me with all the evidence that it's true.

Anything broadcast on any propaganda medium is a priori thrown out as an unreliable source. I want to see the state government documents for 2022.

I'm waiting.

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– libman 0 points 66 days ago +2 / -2

You are a Bidenland whore, and the enemy of MAGA.

Secession is Nuclear MAGA. #Rexit

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– YukFoo -1 points 66 days ago +2 / -3

Fuck you Libman. You live in a homeless encampment in NJ, with the other stumble-bums. So I understand how limiting that must be in developing any sort of mildly sophisticated perspective or understanding.

Secession is purely a LARP- you're just too deluded to realize it. Your personal secession from civil society is a great example how attractive and practical it is as an alternative. Lots of MAGA patriots can hardly wait to live in a homeless camp, shitting in a bag, eating at soup kitchens, showering once a week at the men's shelter and making a subsistence living online.

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– libman 1 point 66 days ago +2 / -1

You'll be hearing from my attorney.

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– preferredfault 0 points 66 days ago +1 / -1

While technically true, it's actually not objectively true, for many reasons. Firstly, a lot of red states spend money on things that don't even entirely benefit the state. For example, when the federal government built highways, a lot of those must be then maintained by the state, but most of those highways are primarily used to haul goods through the state, to liberal states, while the state itself must still financially take care of those roads.

A lot of things that come from these red states, end up in places like NY, where they're sold for high prices. So these liberal states take what is effectively cheap stuff, and inflate it into expensive stuff. Now think about how that effects how much money a state seems to be producing.

On top of that, a lot of businesses are HQ'd in liberal states. Like Comcast. Yet they are clearly funded by customers nationally. But their tax dollars get attributed to liberal states, as if that money is being generated solely from the state they are HQ'd in.

And a lot of liberal states act as ports for the import/export of goods to/from the USA, which also comes with fee's and taxes that get attributed to that state. You're not really getting anything into or out of this country without NY and CA getting a piece of it for themselves.

So all in all, what really happens is a lot of value and product that doesn't come from blue states at all, ends up attributed to blue states, because they're siphoning it from other states. Think when a person in NY orders a steak that came from a red state cow and pays taxes on that meal everywhere down the line of that chain. Or when crops grown in a red states end up getting exported through a port in a blue state. Stuff like that. It's actually insidious.

And another part of it is that liberal states have deliberately stifled red states. Think the rust belts that were destroyed by Clinton's trade policy. Towns and industries just left in the dust to rot, never recovering, while large liberal cities were allowed to be built up with urban sprawl, with much of their value false and inflated. That is also an issue of its own that is coming home to roost for liberal cities.

I mean look at NY for example. Their property values are extremely inflated. But big stores still operate in these areas, paying hundreds of thousands of dollars a month just to operate out of these locations. They might be barely churning a profit. But the prices of goods don't just go up locally for that company, but everywhere, which is what helps to keep paying those crazy high storefront prices.

Like when a bunch of thugs decide to ransack walmart in CA, red states are paying for that too, in the form of higher prices for general goods, along with other companies paying it too in the form of higher prices for goods due to other increased expenses, like company insurances.

Same with all those railway robberies that have been taking place. It all gets written off into the cost of doing business, which ultimately becomes part of the base cost of any and all goods sold anywhere and everywhere.

And even though liberal states appear to pay more in federal taxes, TX actually pays more in federal taxes than NY and CA combined. This is because while they pay a lot in federal taxes, they also get a lot back in federal taxes.....almost all of what liberal states pay, ends up back in their pockets.

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– YukFoo -1 points 66 days ago +2 / -3

Congratulations. You have crammed more stuff that is wrong into your manifesto than I have ever seen before. Truly a remarkable feat!

Let me hit a few highlights:

"And even though liberal states appear to pay more in federal taxes, TX actually pays more in federal taxes than NY and CA combined. This is because while they pay a lot in federal taxes, they also get a lot back in federal taxes.....almost all of what liberal states pay, ends up back in their pockets."

This is laughably false. If California was a country, it'd have the 5th largest economy (3.37 trillion) in the world behind the US, China, Japan and Germany. Texas would be 10th with a relatively paltry $2 trillion. New Yorks' economy would be 12th at $1.7 trillion. So I will need to see more evidence of your claim that the $2 trillion in economic activity in Texas generates more federal tax revenue than the $5 trillion in combined economic activity of CA and NY.

"And another part of it is that liberal states have deliberately stifled red states. Think the rust belts that were destroyed by Clinton's trade policy. Towns and industries just left in the dust to rot, never recovering, while large liberal cities were allowed to be built up with urban sprawl, with much of their value false and inflated. That is also an issue of its own that is coming home to roost for liberal cities."

You made an excellent point. The ag industry is the most subsidized industry in the country (except oil and gas). From discounted crop insurance, to dairy subsidies, to crop subsidies to being paid NOT to grow (CRP, CREP) farmers are sucking on the taxpayer's tit. So it figures that they'd oppose anything that anything that looked like free trade where they have to carry their own weight. Capitalism is about competition. And that should not mean the government is in the business of picking winners and losers. But there are a lot of people in the energy and ag sector rattling their beggars cup under Uncle Sam's nose.

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– Objectivism 13 points 66 days ago +13 / -0

Technological independence is all that matters long term. This is good, also join a freedomcell or the digital independence project or similar orgs too. The future will be defined by technological battles.

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– BenDoverAssho 6 points 66 days ago +6 / -0

Yep. We are seeing that now with 5th gen information warfare. Sadly. Conservatives seem to be decisively outgunned in this particular arena right now. I hope that can change, eventually.

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– BenDoverAssho 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

When corruption is so widespread as to encompass nearly all sides, it heralds the impending collapse and destruction of the society. I wish I knew how many more years we have. I suspect, less than 8-10.

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– Kornilovist 2 points 65 days ago +2 / -0

By 2030 the US will be a Communist dictatorship. You, and your guns, will have done nothing to stop it.

All they will do is gaslight you that it hasn't happened.

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– nomoreprinkles 12 points 66 days ago +12 / -0

Red states cooalition should always come first over any national interest.

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– BenDoverAssho 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Absolutely! The current. " installed" illegitimate regime does not represent the American citizen.

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– Azill 7 points 66 days ago +7 / -0

join or die

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– RedPillMAGALegend 38 points 66 days ago +41 / -3

Sooooooo time to round em up, shoot a few, and make public hangings great again? Asking for lots of frens

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– RuprechtThaMonkeyBoy 15 points 66 days ago +15 / -0

Front-End Loader time! Give generations 100 years from now the excitement of digging up bones and misgendering people.

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– RedPillMAGALegend 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 :::you can fit plenty of cucks in this baby:::

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– Objectivism 33 points 66 days ago +33 / -0

Newsflash. You need to start acting as if there isn't.

This isn't the check engine light, it's the car won't start.

Not dooming. Countries are just like men - mortal. We're just dying. It's ok. But you need to stop clinging to the hope used to slowly march us leftward in pendulum swings.

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– BenDoverAssho 16 points 66 days ago +18 / -2

The average age of Empires is roughly 250 years. They tend to collapse through overreaching for power and too much expansion. Looks like America meets the criteria at this point. The dismal recruiting numbers for the military that we are now seeing is a telling indicator of the decline. Not even it's own citizens think the country is worth fighting for, ( at least not with the current installed, illegitimate regime. )

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– Kornilovist 15 points 66 days ago +15 / -0

They don't want people, not in the military, not in the country. They are trying to kill us as fast as they can because they think machines and foreigners will be more obedient.

You aren't witnessing collapse. You're witnessing a monstrous transformation into a purely evil empire set on destroying humanity.

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– BenDoverAssho 7 points 66 days ago +7 / -0

As things turn from bad to worse, people will become more resistant and fight back. It just hasn't gotten bad enough yet. They will keep people fat, dumb, and happy while they build all the infrastructure for a totalitarian surveillance Police State. Once all the pieces are in place. THEN the real bad shit will start happening. We haven't seen anything yet.

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– Kornilovist 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

You have been fed a steady diet of pure propaganda about history.

Your perception of what causes any revolution is warped.

Has COVID madness caused even the slightest diminishing of Xi's power? Sure there are riots. And so what. His strength over his own party only grows.

Has starvation done anything for North Korea?

How about sanctions on Iran or Venezuela? Yes, there are protests, and yes they are always put down by force.

It is state weakness, not state oppression or social maladies, that causes a revolution. Foreign powers can weaken a state (say, with sanctions) but it takes revolutionaries having an enormous advantage in cohesion over the state to make any difference in outcomes.

The US police state is unlikely to ever fall far enough to ever be weak. In fact its power alone is what is deliberately causing national suffering. If it grew weaker, national suffering would naturally subside.

Its even worse when we consider ourselves. Conservatives are the most disorganized resistance you can think of. We don't even have a political party that speaks for us. We are nothing, disorganized gnats on the back of an elephant.

Before 2022 I was hopeful that Conservatives would at least slow down this evil beast, but after 2022 it's clear we're just couch potatoes getting mashed into what jar the state wants to place us. We have no backbone and easily find excuses to do nothing. I hope Kari Lake can still change that but so far it looks like she too is just a pretend firebrand.

It stems from the fact that we have zero leadership that actually want to fight. Almost all our leaders are just in politics for personal advancement, and that means working within the system.

This system is evil. No one who can lead us should even want to accept working in it.

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– BenDoverAssho 2 points 65 days ago +2 / -0

You're correct. Most Americans are fat, dumb, and living in ignorant bliss. There doesn't seem to be any organized Resistance or leadership so far. 2022 elections came and went with what looks like another Steal, but again, the Leftist propaganda machine gave a " plausible" explanation to mollify just enough people into acceptance. I doubt that 2024 is going to be any different. It's not looking good.

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– Kornilovist 3 points 65 days ago +3 / -0

While they are literally being poisoned to death, no less.

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– Kornilovist 2 points 65 days ago +2 / -0

"Most" of any population on the planet lives as you describe.

I'm not as angry at them as I am at those of us who do care.

We care and we should know better after 2022.

Elections aren't real. They can't change anything, they only exist to provide an excuse for the dictatorship to abuse us.

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– Shalomtoyou 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

Which involves collapse.

I think they think "Once we collapse it, people will come to us on their knees and agree to be our slaves forever!"

Of course, it might be Once it collapses, people come with guns and kill every last one of these scumbags. And starve to death afterwards.

I don't know if their transition will work as well as they hope.

Kind of like the transgendered.

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– Kornilovist 7 points 66 days ago +7 / -0

They've been running this show for hundreds of years, they know just how to manage us.

For example, DeSantis is on their team, he's the mobster that promises you protection after his buddies burn down your shop.

Now they produce a bunch of popular culture in both general media and alternative media about "collapse". A bunch of doom porn. For the normies it's scary, they don't want collapse and are motivated to promote order. For you, it's a distraction, you are just going to wait for things to fall in your lap.

Neither.

They could reverse the economic problems in a few months with supply side economics and flexible foreign policy. But they are choosing not to, not because they can't, but because they feel no need whatsoever.

No one is tearing down the state, it's only growing stronger. As they lose people they'll just replace with foreigners and machines.

Literally the only defeats for them in the last 2 years have been Afghanistan and Elon Musk's Twitter purchase. That's it. Ukraine will be an L eventually, as will Taiwan, and so what? Collapse from that? No way.

All they have to do is install digital currency before the dollar reserve status dries up and they'll be able to weather that too. You can control inflation with a currency driven command economy. No one's allowed to spend more than their fair share.

I honestly expected conservatives to fight in 2022. We didn't. No one cares. We're pushovers.

So where the hell do you see collapse?

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– Shalomtoyou 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

Ah, you mean the mine shaft gap?

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– BringTheCat789 8 points 66 days ago +8 / -0

All of the LGBTQ shit is manufacturered by our enemies in order to facilitate our demise.

Don't you find it odd just how aggressively it is being pushed nowadays, even in places you'd least expect?

Meanwhile, our enemies all categorically forbid LGBTQ shit in their own countries.

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– BenDoverAssho 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

True. The Left is never satisfied. Conservatives think they can reach a compromise, but it's never enough for the Left. We started out with the courts forcing gay marriage on us, ( California voters voted against gay marriage, but the courts overrode the will of the people), and now we are looking at the Left pushing mutilation tranny surgery and pedophilia acceptance on society.

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– FliesTheFlag 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

all categorically forbid LGBTQ shit in their own countries

reminds me of this, https://mexicodailypost.com/2021/06/05/multinational-companies-notably-failed-to-update-logos-for-pride-month-on-their-middle-east-and-asian-pages-where-lgbt-people-face-the-most-oppression/

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– DixMcCoy 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Don't you find it odd just how aggressively it is being pushed nowadays, even in places you'd least expect?

Yes. https://www.adl.org/i-am-jazz

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– Worldtraveler0405 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

Not to forget, more and more adolescents, teenagers and adults are less willingly to vaxx themselves, on the so called "prevention" of CoViD. More and more see the BS of it, including the QR-mass surveillance and testing as well. Y'know, like: "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!"

I know many people my age (age 20-35) that did have a double vax ... have declined a booster, or a 2nd bOoStEr.

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– Mountaineer 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

Based. The America we wanted is already over.

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– SaltyTitties3 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

This.

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– GenericInsult 33 points 66 days ago +34 / -1

"Nobody votes for higher rent, food, gas and crime"

I beg to differ. Democrats do it every time.

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– Shamb3 12 points 66 days ago +12 / -0

People who don't pay for their own rent, food and gas or make so much money these are not issues for them do often times vote for Democrats.

Some of them also have misplaced sympathy for the criminal over the victims and live in nice areas where they are not the victims. I know, I live in a nice suburb surrounded by some of these people.

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– rex888 2 points 66 days ago +5 / -3

Sadly lots of boomers have become freeloaders addicted to social security handouts.

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– Parabellum76 3 points 66 days ago +5 / -2

At least they paid in when they used to work, nowadays most people try for welfare, disability, etc from day one and never work a day in their life.

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– CastleRock 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Because welfare, disability and OnlyFans pays better than a full time low wage gig

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– DixMcCoy 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

I hope the IRS goons go after the OnlyFans whores. Friend of mine said supposedly some OF thots eventually make actual porn and sell it to studios or...? I dunno, it ends up on pornhub and places like that, apparently!

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– Geralt_of_Rivia1 2 points 66 days ago +3 / -1

Social security would be solvent in and of itself, and is a "small" enough program that it has legitimate arguments for it - it isnt like it pays out 10k a month or something, the maximum possible Social Security benefit for someone who retires at full retirement age is $3,627, average is $1,827 per month

They paid into the program and can live in a 55+ trailer park until they die because of it. Still not a great program for those who actually put money into a 401k like I did, but still, it has some arguments for it, and solvency is not an argument against social security itself

The issue with social security is that medicare isnt solvent, and medicare only exists by borrowing against social security

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– YukFoo -1 points 66 days ago +2 / -3

Those boomers paid for their Social Security and Medicare. Handouts are different than the return of your own money.

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– HelluvaEngineer 2 points 66 days ago +3 / -1

Nope. That money was spent a long time ago, and they didn't care at all. My payroll taxes fund their retirement.

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– YukFoo -1 points 66 days ago +2 / -3

Bullshit. That is like saying I'm not entitled to the dollar bills that I deposited in the bank because they were disbursed long ago and supplanted by dollars from newer depositors. If you put $100,000 in a bank and they lend it to someone buying a house- are you shit outta luck?

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– deleted 9 points 66 days ago +9 / -0
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– Mountaineer 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

Latest Thing™ is always, always more authoritarian horseshit.

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– AmericanDude76 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

Not the majority, there are not 51% of people anywhere who vote for that kind of BS. Yes a ton of people are dumb but not that dumb!

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– Badfinz_FL 3 points 66 days ago +4 / -1

BALLOTS do it every time

Learn the difference

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– rex888 3 points 66 days ago +5 / -2

It's mostly dead people voting demonrat. With a few joggers, groomers and illegals

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– 1GodRules 22 points 66 days ago +22 / -0

No comment.

The U.S. is already gone.

The globalist trash has infiltrated our entire way of life.

They control our elections, so by default they control the politicians.

They control our health services.

They control our judicial system to Include the UnSupreme court.

They control our military.

They are so deeply embedded in our society we have lost control and are no longer of the people, for the people, but instead are told what we can, or can't do, where we can, or can't go, etc. etc.

Sadly I don't think a lot of people are going to wake up in time.

The vaccine passport crap is nothing more than an open prison cell and control device.

Our only hope is patriots wake up the moment these criminal demons say they're coming for our guns.

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– Kornilovist 6 points 66 days ago +6 / -0

No need to come for your guns if they can stop you from ever using them with a few information operations and demoralization.

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– 1GodRules 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

Possibly true, but the only ones falling for the propaganda are usually the ones that are already brainwashed.

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– doomerglowie 10 points 66 days ago +10 / -0

Not to dispute fraud, because it's real, BUT

people on ebt and gibs do vote blue because government gibs got adjusted heavily for the biden inflation so they don't feel it.

They use public transportation so gas doesn't matter

They already live in crime infested cities and are the ones causing it so they don't care

They get rent assistance or free housing so they don't care.

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– Bax101 9 points 66 days ago +9 / -0

News flash: Its already going down in flames. Especially when you start listening to all the economic and industrial news. It's all irreversible at this point. I keep hearing 2023 is going to be terrible.

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– mateus 8 points 66 days ago +8 / -0

Nobody....NOBODY? LoL Where have you been?

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– BoatingAccident 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

Not in my office building that’s for sure.

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– Snoman 8 points 66 days ago +8 / -0

Until we take to the streets and peacefully begin to protest nothing will change.

These people must be confronted, there is not other alternative.

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– ragnarokrobo 13 points 66 days ago +13 / -0

Peaceful protests do nothing.

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– Neptunes_rings 9 points 66 days ago +9 / -0

Worse. They get infiltrated and J6d

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– Kornilovist 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

Ha, they know we'll just wait for the next "election" then say "ah shucks".

Until you hate I mean truly hate this government absolutely nothing is going to change.

No one fights to make their life better. That's what everyone who keeps their heads down wants. Those who fight are angry, not rational.

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– Snoman 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

I’ve been watching a bit of GB News lately https://youtu.be/qa-Vp-DCjF4

They’re dealing with similar issues and just going along w/it with little resistance, just compliance and complaining.

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– SavingPrivateGrace 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

I was hoping with my vote that the GOP would win the House. Now we need them to meet and lock themselves in to that House for a peaceful protest, as long as it takes to solve our Presidential Elections, using their position of power and skills we voted for them to use. Not that I'm being lazy about protests, I just think we need to do things very different and in a different kind of protesting way.

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– Snoman 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

We have to focus on multiple fronts, not just the DC swamp.

We can address the election issue at the state level, all Politics are Local.

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– SavingPrivateGrace 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

Not for those States who were lost to corruption. They will never address the election issues. I could address multiple fronts but the topic is free and fair elections.

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– m1lkb0ne 7 points 66 days ago +7 / -0

In Brazil, they've taken to the streets. They've set up camps in front of military barracks throughout the country. Trucker and farmers are on strike, and it's starting to affect shipping. I thought we should have been doing that here, but not much happened.

What they didn't do was go to the Plaza of the Three Powers in the federal district and try to enter the buildings. On that front, they're trying every legal option available to them, and the reaction is exposing the tyrannical nature of the commies in charge.

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– Kornilovist 3 points 66 days ago +4 / -1

Bolsonaro has an organization, Trump had a Twitter account.

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– m1lkb0ne 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

Bolsonaro is trying not to appear as leading the resistance. He's mostly staying in the Palace of the Dawn and remaining quiet. It seems the people organized themselves through WhatsApp groups, and there are no identifiable leaders. Individual funds are pooled through Brazil's central bank payment app, Pix. Livestreamers and alternative journalists put their Pix account numbers on the screen and ask for donations. Others donate food, water, generators, etc.

Brazil has the advantage of a more coherent culture than ours, a Constitutional provision for military intervention, and a mostly patriotic military. The federal police seem to be avoiding confrontation, and the protestors are non-violent. They aren't even using profanity. They're just not having any of it.

Will they succeed? No one knows, but at least they are trying. If you try, you may lose, but if you don', you're guaranteed to lose. If Lula "goes up the ramp" on January 1st, will they back down, or escalate? Who knows, but I hope it doesn't come to that.

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– Kornilovist 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

I hope it does come to that, because if it doesn't Brazil has surrendered to globohomo tyranny. Nothing like a good purging of Communists to brighten your future.

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– m1lkb0ne 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

Exactly. Most of Latin America has already fallen, but Brazil is the largest and most populous country in the region, so it has the potential to lead the rest out of Communist slavery, and perhaps even be an example to us.

As the protestors say, "O Brasil não será uma Venezuela. (Brazil will not be a Venezuela.)" "O poder emana do povo! (Power emanates from the people!)" and "O povo brasileiro é soberano. (The Brazilian people are sovereign.)

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– CaptainButthurt 7 points 66 days ago +8 / -1

Balkanization is the only way we can save a sane piece of the Republic. The others will wither and die. Red states need to prepare for this eventuality.

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– BillionsAndBillions 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

Think more locally: red counties.

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– YukFoo -1 points 66 days ago +1 / -2

They'd starve. The population (meaning money and tax base) is in the cities and suburbs. Same is true for most of the red states. With the exception of Texas, most of their economies are miniscule. I don't see how this could work.

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– DixMcCoy 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Red rural counties export food to urban areas for bigly profits.

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– YukFoo -1 points 66 days ago +1 / -2

Look around the world and show me one agrarian economic powerhouse.

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– BillionsAndBillions 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

You think there will be an economy of any considerable size once the Reset is complete? Red counties are where food is grown. Starve? Stay in your city.

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– YukFoo -3 points 66 days ago +1 / -4

Of course there will be. Most of our economy has a global orientation already. It will only accelerate. And blue states have food too. As do Canada and Mexico. And the red counties/states will need to sell crops to pay for everything else they need. And if a state secedes, what makes you think they will be granted passage to an outside market or port? Are you going to be able to drill for and refine oil to power tractors? What's the plan for obtaining fertilizer? A state that has seceded is now an international border. Better negotiate a good trade agreement.

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– BillionsAndBillions 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

Blue states and the entire western world are banning fossil fuel powered everything, banning fertilizer, seizing farmland. You think they'll really have an all battery / solar / wind powered agricultural and transport system in place to power a growing, accelerating global economy? Delusional. We're in controlled decline, with the goal of establishing a global system of slavery, managed by the few elites. I'm sure any resistance to this trajectory on the part of red counties is futile, and should be totally abandoned.

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– YukFoo -2 points 65 days ago +1 / -3

A few questions: First, who are thee global elites and what evidence of a plot to implement global slavery do you have? Second, who is banning fertilizer? Third, who is seizing farmland and why?

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– BillionsAndBillions 2 points 65 days ago +2 / -0

You're far too ignorant for me to continue this conversation. Enjoy your fantasy land.

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– Meddlesom 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Red states huh? What are you going to do about the blue cities in your red states? The cancer is already there. What is texas going to do with its 49% leftist population?

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– BenDoverAssho 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

In Medieval times, how were castles conquered?

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– Meddlesom 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

In a way that you didn't need to fuckin balkanize and directly give the globalists their endgame win. You secessionist faggots still haven't realized that the new world order WANTS this country to break up into smaller, more manageable pieces.

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– BenDoverAssho 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Don't worry about secession. Secession is just one step on the path to civil war. Here is why: The Global-Leftists are never going to let it happen, or if they do, it won't be long before they continue to try and take over total control. At best, the Secession Movement may provide a brief period where Red States can consolidate and organize as a counterforce to the tyrannical federal government. Eventually though, there's going to be an armed struggle for power. One side will prevail and will exterminate the other side. It's going to be a, " kill or be killed" type of situation. Think Bosnian War 1992-1995.

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– RonBohr 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

farts

-- the GOP

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– Kornilovist 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Best post.

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– Muricasfucked 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

That's where you're wrong. A LOT of brainwashed retards are still voting blue.

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– Nimble_navigator92 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

It's because the media legitimately has at least half the country convinced that the economy is doing well, we are not in a recession, crime is low, and high gas prices are good because of climate change...

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– Steve56775 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

This election proved beyond any doubt that this cannot be fixed at the ballot box. We are going to need boxes made of pine.

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– yurimodin 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

Unfortunately 😞

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– DixMcCoy 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Hold up there, according to what that Torba guy said a few months ago, this post would have you banned from the website Gab.

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– BlackCrimesMatter 5 points 66 days ago +5 / -0

Cumface Obama made sure we have no more fair elections. Until his crimes come to light in a very public trial, and he goes to jail - nothing will happen.

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– RedDog4Eva 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

It started long before him. It was just very well hidden from a vast majority.

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– YouNeedVPN 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

Lol.

This country was sold in 1923, and utterly destroyed in 1965.

We're now living with the children of those immigration changes, and it shows.

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– Stanwyk74 4 points 66 days ago +5 / -1

When your holy sacrament is abortion you will vote for any craziness

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– sandinyourteeth 4 points 66 days ago +5 / -1

To all the MF'ers who voted for Obama and PedoJoe because they didn't want anyone calling them a racist,

🖕🏿

Sincerely...🖕🏿

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– Badfinz_FL 4 points 66 days ago +5 / -1

you can't win a presidential election without 270

This country can't stand more and more democrat "leadership" no way

this corruption and mail in ballots need to be erased from all 50 states.

3 simple things:

  1. Voter ID
  2. Paper ballots
  3. Vote the day of the election - unless in military stationed abroad - in person
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– WhiskeyGiGi 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Hand counted at the precinct level! We need to be counting our own votes!

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– JuicyfearsMAGA 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

Those commiting voter fraud, every person from the top donor and globalist or politician down to the poll worker or volunteer who assists in it. Every last one needs to be punished according to the Constitution

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– MegoThor 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

There ISN’T an America. That country died.

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– nomoreprinkles 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

Communists don't ever envision themselves on the giving end and always assume they'll be the ones receiving. So yes they do vite for higher rent and taxes - because in their mind everything stays the same for them , everyone else has to foot the bill.

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– AlbertSnow 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

Nobody SANE votes for...

FTFY

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– she-nani-gan88 4 points 66 days ago +4 / -0

I think we lost her in 2020

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– RedDog4Eva 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Yep. To me, that was the final death blow.

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– Philhelm 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

There's still vengeance.

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– Granny 3 points 66 days ago +4 / -1

Oz did win the Senate race in PA. I watched it closely. Fetty started out at 61%, then as the counting went on, with every update Fetty dropped a bit and Oz was rising. Slow but steady all evening. Just at the point when Oz would have overtaken Fetty, by golly Fetty got a little bump! Over and over. Every time Oz was about to overtake him, Fetty would get a little bump! Many times Oz was within a half a percentage, then the next update Fetty would get a few fractions. This was not organic, no it was totally improbable. Obvious manipulation.

It's the software Pedes. Polls and counting centers may cheat, but ultimately the voting systems are rigged to guarantee the desired outcomes!!!

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– YukFoo -2 points 66 days ago +1 / -3

You are probably going to need a little more than that to set aside an election. How about Mastriano? Was that stolen too?

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– Groundpounder 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

Accept the unbelievable results, or the lockdowns and masks will be a thing again… for science and safety, naturally ☺️

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– CMDRConanAAnderson 3 points 66 days ago +4 / -1

So much ignorance to believe something like this. The midterms alone coming down to the wire was entirely staged, you can rig elections to make things look 50/50, they've been doing this in congress for decades now (Obamacare). There's no knowing what will happen in 2024 but I guarantee you Republicans will continue to rig elections so that they do not allow the MAGA movement to show just how impressive it really is. The Republican party will spend the next few years being incompetent and even more destructive to the US than the Dems were this entire time, all the while doing nothing regarding GND and CRT.

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– F0RMERCHILDSTAR 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

People who are already comfortable on the government dole do not consider economic policy when voting. They simply vote for more gibs until the system collapses.

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– dannypipes75 3 points 66 days ago +4 / -1

100%

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– PhantomShield72 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

The American Dream has already been smothered.

We are now in the "recussitation" phase.

It remains to be seen whether the body can be revived...

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– Kornilovist 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

Ha, the heart has been removed.

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– PhantomShield72 1 point 64 days ago +1 / -0

Yep, organs harvested and sold to the Chinese...

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– stinah 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

Maybe if the US government stopped wasting money and resources with military interventions in countries where we have no business getting involved....like Ukraine...and Syria....

How exactly is it acceptable that we have a base in Syria where Dick Cheney's company is stealing their oil?

What is the UN even for?

Not only is this country fucked, the whole world is under our hypocritical control,

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– stinah 3 points 66 days ago +3 / -0

also see:

Genie Oil & Gas Company behind the War in Syria https://cosmoschronicle.com/genie-oil-gas-company-behind-the-war-in-syria/

"With renowned figures in the political, financial and media sector on its board, Genie Oil has strategically entrusted in key people who will encourage the need for western intervention in their respective sectors while at the same time keep the talk of the disputed region out of the public spotlight."

"Rupert Murdoch

What more effective way to garner public support for starting another illegal war in the Middle East than by having one of the most influential media moguls on the planet banging the war drum on a near daily basis?"

Jacob Rothschild

That’s right, Jacob Rothschild, whose banking dynasty encompasses most of the world’s privatized central banks and monetary systems.

He is the youngest son of James Jacob de Rothschild, who was a patron of the first settlement in Palestine, who bought parts of the land from Ottoman landlords which now makes up present-day Israel.

Dick Cheney

When it comes to using political influence to snap up big oil contracts, look no further than Dick Cheney.

Cheney was the president and CEO of Halliburton from 1995 to 2000, one of the world’s largest oil and gas companies.

In 2001, he became the vice president of the USA under George W. Bush. Soon after, Halliburton just happened to be awarded a $7 billion contract in Iraq for which it was the only oil company allowed to bid.

James Woolsey

Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from 1993 to 1995, Woolsey maintains his power over oil policy as co-founder of United States Energy Security Council.

Back in 2003, Woolsey spoke about the need to exert pressure on North African and Middle Eastern regimes, specifically about Libya and Syria, which he described as rogue states.

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– stinah 6 points 66 days ago +6 / -0

People need to wake up and realize this all started with Republicans and George Bush/Cheney when they lied to the world to start the war of terror and got US 20 Trillion in debt. Now we are 30 Trillion in debt...and climbing every day no matter what we do because interest is now a larger portion of the debt than military expenditures.

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– Kornilovist 1 point 66 days ago +1 / -0

Nope. National Security Act of 1947. It ended in the 80s after publishing the "Crisis of Democracy"

America was a dictatorship well before Bush Jr.

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– Mystery_D 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

lmfao he gave him a sippy cup.

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– MAGATRON1 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

THE RULES ARE SET:

Go out and download yourself a copy of Saul alinsky's Rules for Radicals if for no other reason than to understand their main textbook. Then begin to implement their megamaniacal and manipulative dark psychology tactics on them. Obviously we need to do massive ballot harvesting where legal and even ________ _______ if it's not ______!

We are not the white hat wearing singing Cowboys that will shoot the guns out of the hands of the dastardly evildoers we are full on dark Maga! If that offends some of you "reach across the aisle", "bipartisan", "smiling politician, let's get work done; we're all Americans after all" a-hole Boomers; then get the F out the kitchen cuz you ain't no chef no mo!

I'm all in for boycotts targeting their businesses causing them all kinds of strife at their work by contacting the board of directors hedge fund managers anybody that will put pressure on businesses. I'm going to go full on spider monkey on the people that the big names listen to - these would be hedge fund managers and how I get to them is I find out who they're influenced by and then I will Target those people. I will make it so that these guys wake up sweating at night worried about boycotts and engineered online campaigns against their clients; I will arrange such attacks to be timed for their periodic reviews I will research all of this stuff.

And of course as I've said almost every time I post -- I plan on taking 10 days off from work as soon as early voting starts for 2024 traveling to a swing County and living in a weekly Stay Hotel perhaps with some others and straight doing work for 10 days beating the street collecting boxes of votes. This is what they do - we just laugh and get loud at bars after a rally throw back a couple beers and talk about what a bunch of faggots pantifa is, while 53% of us don't even vote. By the way voting records of if you voted is public information and goes back years so if you consider yourself some type of patriot with your American flag Punisher decal on your truck next to your various other stickers of guns you like I will expose you PLAY-TRIOTS.

Reeeeeeee

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– TheImpossible1 2 points 66 days ago +2 / -0

Women did. The polling that said we'd win easily was based on them doing the right thing, and of course they didn't.

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