In a sick way they put in this much effort, this quietly, to kill us. Kind of impressive. Also, since America is King right now all eyes are on us.
Imagine the world if we embraced our founding fathers ideals. American Renaissance, Alex Jones used that word and it rings in my head whenever I think of it.
I really don't believe "use the guns" is going to solve anything once you go in the specifics.
Like who are we killing with the guns? Say tonight 600 individuals each assassinate all branches of government. From president, to senators, to congressman, to supreme court justices. All of them shot dead on their bed. Tomorrow will be a national mourning and when the FBI crackdown the 600 assassins will all be caught and executed.
But where do we go from there? Is the whole american democracy system brought down because of this national tragedy? I don't think so. I think within a month the empty seats will be filled with new politicans, we get a temp president from line of succession, we will have new justices appointed. What we really accomplished was essentially getting previously unelectable people elected because the old guard perennially senators were killed. Is that what's going to fix America? Count me skeptical.
If those aren't our target then who? Your liberal neighbour? Your local governor? Big tech pharma CEOs? That's just mean even less impact.
Then you're a fool. Annihilating the entirety of the government overnight would collapse it and cause a power vacuum. Allowing the rank and file to take care of the treasonous officers that we have now. The fbi would be shot on site and any who dare protect them would be taken care of.
We don't need to assassinate anyone, we need to defeat the military or convince the lower levels to turn on the higher levels. We then have a dictatorship for a few years and occupy the country while we implement policies that move the Overton window rightward while purging communists from the institutions. After a few years we relinquish power with an amended constitution that clarifies past amendments and places further restrictions on government power and start over like its 1789
So use your guns to takeover military bases one by one or what? Like we cut through the fence and just march in or?
Even if we forgo that ridiculous scenario and say all lower level personels already default to be on our side and wouldn't obey order from superior to kill fellow citizens and would rather shoot their general dead instead. Great so now citizens and military grunts all with guns and tanks all gather at capitol and clear out Congress, retire the president this afternoon.
Okay so the ruling class, Pelosi and her ilk basically all quit and don't show up for work ever again after today. You guys will then do what exactly? Who knows how to run a country next Monday? Who drafts the amendment and do rest of the country get to have an opinion? I'm guessing no since it's a temporary dictatorship. Then when you all voluntarily step down few years later do Pelosi come back as Speaker or we elect new people?
we run the govt the way we want. leave out all the commie and socialist crap and model it with the Bible on top of everything. Revert back to Common Law
There's plenty of current and former elected officials that are capable and willing to run the country and implement the changes we want. It will be a soft dictatorship where freedoms like speech religion and right to bear arms are mostly respected but left wing activities will be scrutinized and inhibited if it looks like they're planning a counter-revolution
After the Overton window has been moved back and this country is on a better path then we can have real elections where it doesn't matter as much who wins because the government will have it's power restricted to a point where it will never become as powerful as it is now. It will be up to armed patriots to ensure that the amended constitution is followed
Let's clarify this. Who steals elections again? Not just Democrats, but also Republicans we don't like? Why not just say - everyone is terrible but me. Just like the commie faggots on Reddit do. Swell.
What I just said was: You sound like a victim - a fucking weak crying faggot. Any time you lose, you scream and cry about how unfair it is. Regardless of who is on the other side. YOU SOUND LIKE EVERY REEEEEEING COMMIE LIBERAL FAGGOT YOU MAKE FUN OF.
and you sound like you got salt in your vagina. youre the dumb fucking frog sitting in hot water making fun of the other frogs who are like hey lets gtfo this isnt safe. you sound like a cunt with excuses for doing fuck all the last 2 years.
I'm not worried at all. Jeff Sessions is working on it behind the scenes. And the white hats have killed and replaced all of hollywood with stunt doubles. Right? Look it's not my fault that you're a low IQ faggot who thinks exactly like a dopey Leftist. That's for you to fix. Maybe you'll have more time when 8th grade is over.
I think deranged is a good description, and you are likely an escapee from some mental institution. Or maybe you were just kicked out - or kicked in the head one too many times. Perhaps you are just a leftist terrorist shill with nothing better to do today.
there was a red wave, 'fortification' and fuckery stamped it out and now there needs to be accountability for the sabotage from 'leadership' as a lot of the warchest was spent fighting maga candidates
And they will change nothing. You can't take over the GOP. They lie cheat an steal just like the Democrats. They pander to get your money and votes an shit all over you again an again an again. We needed a new party after 2020 an now it might be to late.
I disagree, we take the party and then we smash it to pieces. The whole purpose of this election was to let the red wave narrative go for as long as possible, to build up massive hype and then crush it and hopefully black pill as many people as possible. They want to kill any fighting spirit that's left and then in 2024, end maga once and for all.
The GOP knows you hate McCarthy, McConnell, an Rona. 75% of the GOP just gave you McCarthy, McConnell, an Rona. You're not taking over shit. Rinos control party infrastructure. They grift to get your money an they use that money to fuck you over in the primary. If your guy wins the primary they fund your opponent in the general. Ron Paul tried for years and failed. The Teaparty tried an failed. Maga tried an failed. How many years do you think we have before America collapses to keep trying a strategy that failed for 14 years straight. You're no closer now than you were then.
There is no other way to get someone like Trump in as president if they're not on the republican ticket. If Trump were to run as an independent he wouldn't be allowed to debate anyone. We have to infiltrate the enemy... Just like we did with Twitter
If Trump formed a new party he would have 15% of the vote in polls. He'd be admitted into presidential debates. As it stands it's all pretty pointless. They fortified AZ NV GA MI an PA. Trumps odds of getting into the white house with rigged n fortified swing states is imo less than 1%
I don't think just because you have 15% you're automatically guaranteed to debate. The last time we had a third party to debate was Ross Perot and that was in the '90s
How many years do you think we have before America collapses
Im ready. Will be hell for a decade but lets get this fuckin party started. Gut the corrupt politicians and and bullshit govt agencies, and nuke the fed.
Unfortunately the power structure of the corrupt GOP might be too entrenched to simply take it over. I tended to say the same thing that "we need to take it over rather than start a new party" but I'm quickly seeing that the corruption is so rampant and power is so entrenched that it might be impossible.
I love when leftists say “lol trump is going to destroy the GOP” like that’s a bad thing. Just like he destroyed Hillary’s political career I hope he destroys the GOP.
Why does anyone here think that MSN has anything worth listening to? Have we suddenly forgotten the tremendous amount of gaslighting they do, or how half the shit they put out is outright fabrication? The entire article is nothing more than an attempt to convince MAGA people that they 'failed' even though the right now controls the House and Biden is a lame duck.
Yet again, the left (The Hill?? C'mon man!!) is trying to insinuate a fracture point in rightist ranks: "conservative and faith-based voters". We've got MAGA welding our ranks, and they're trying to pretend it doesn't exist so they can go back to chipping away at our bloc. Fuck the left—they don't define our movement, WE DO.
Classic uniparty that says fuck the voters after they get power. The dem base has the same problem when they try and get universal healthcare or roe v wade codified, Obama told them to "fuck off, you get what you get".
Conservatives are told they'll only get some investigations here and there. They can't even withhold votes on spending or the debt ceiling to get their agenda. We still have Obamacare because weak rinos decided to keep it.
It's The Hill, so it's Leftist propaganda, of course.
And one clear propaganda goal is to drive a wedge into the real-life rift in the Republican party, between the RINOs and the true Conservatives.
But the more important propaganda payload is contained Trojan Horse-style. It's designed to pass straight into the subconscious of the reader.
The way the article does that is to state the propaganda, not as a conclusion, but as an assumption -- a fact that we are all supposed to just accept as obviously true.
You can see that propaganda is a number of places, in points stated as a given:
After the predicted "red wave" failed to materialize... and... [Republican voters hold Mitch McConnell] responsible for an inexplicable and humiliating loss.
The goal is to demoralize us, and to convince us that Trump is not the winner we believe he is.
But the fact remains, there was a huge Red Wave. The Republicans took back the House, despite massive election fraud by the Democrats. Trump's picks won, 219 out of 235. And the few high profile "wins" the Democrats managed to grab required them to cheat so big that it was a big Red Pill for all Americans.
The Left is desperate for us to think we are losing, so that we'll stop doing what we're doing.
They want us to resort to violence, so we'll lose the support of the American people.
Barring that, they want us to forget about implementing election integrity measures, like we've been doing. Honest elections is the thing that scares them the most.
The Left would rather have us panic, and switch our focus to cheating in the elections instead (you may have noticed comments and posts pushing this idea on this forum), because they can always use their unlimited money to win in a cheating contest.
If the GOP doesn’t address Democrats Election Fraud in Congress and at the Precinct level. The party is going to be dead. Nothing else matters than stopping Democrat Fraud.
If this isn't a call for term limits, then I don't know what is. But I don't see that happening.
The only way I see to solve the problem is to make recalling a candidate much easier. If after one year you don't do what you promised you would do, then the people who put you in office can kick you out. This would have to done at a state level.
Some said they don't need voters anymore because they have dominion.
I want to add my 2 cents. They don't need voters' money anymore. They get enough from foreign donors, super PAC, big tech, lobby, corporation.
The wealth of individual donors and big techs dwarf what we can donate. FB founder spent $400m in 2020 for ballot harvesting and we only got $200m to fight with election fraud and greedy heartless backstabber RNC stole all our $200m.
They only need us as tax slaves and birth machine. They just want us to believe we have freedom. It is a show.
oh The Hill is wrong. We did win. I'm not demoralized at all. Those who are demoralized are paying too much attention to what establishment wants us to think.
Democrats are the only reason anyone should vote for Republicans... but if they don't even oppose democrats than there is no longer any reason to even vote for Republicans
Well...good. I'm not interested in religious leadership. I'm interested in economic and border security.
Why people need to shove religion down peoples throats, just like gay people and vegans won't shut the fuck up about their lives, I'll never know. But god damn they've got to learn they aren't the center of the universe.
The issue I have now as much as I hate the McFailures I dont want to see this turn into a pissing match for the next 2 years, so we go into 2024 divided.
That was the thinking 3 weeks ago. Bannon had a good analogy when he commented on why he had Ronna McRomney on his show a week before the election.... something to the effect of 'you argue in the parking lot, you go inside to the wedding together, then you argue at the dinner'.
Well, I'm at the dinner and I'm already pissed she rented a Prius, packed a suit I don't like, took my Trump wine out of the trunk, but now I find out the bitch pre-ordered me the vegan option. These 3 people did all they could to LOSE.
These assholes ran ads against MAGA GOP candidates in the primaries, pulled funding for the candidates that made it anyways, Ran ads against GOP candidates in the general, blamed Trump when those candidates lost, and rewarded themselves with continued leadership. The GOP establishment HATES YOU.
they dont need voters any more. they have dominion.
This. When is enough, enough?
https://imgur.io/fnLbYyj?r
stealing one election is casus belli.
They’re not as infiltrated by the Communists as we are. Yet.
In a sick way they put in this much effort, this quietly, to kill us. Kind of impressive. Also, since America is King right now all eyes are on us.
Imagine the world if we embraced our founding fathers ideals. American Renaissance, Alex Jones used that word and it rings in my head whenever I think of it.
I really don't believe "use the guns" is going to solve anything once you go in the specifics.
Like who are we killing with the guns? Say tonight 600 individuals each assassinate all branches of government. From president, to senators, to congressman, to supreme court justices. All of them shot dead on their bed. Tomorrow will be a national mourning and when the FBI crackdown the 600 assassins will all be caught and executed.
But where do we go from there? Is the whole american democracy system brought down because of this national tragedy? I don't think so. I think within a month the empty seats will be filled with new politicans, we get a temp president from line of succession, we will have new justices appointed. What we really accomplished was essentially getting previously unelectable people elected because the old guard perennially senators were killed. Is that what's going to fix America? Count me skeptical.
If those aren't our target then who? Your liberal neighbour? Your local governor? Big tech pharma CEOs? That's just mean even less impact.
Then you're a fool. Annihilating the entirety of the government overnight would collapse it and cause a power vacuum. Allowing the rank and file to take care of the treasonous officers that we have now. The fbi would be shot on site and any who dare protect them would be taken care of.
We don't need to assassinate anyone, we need to defeat the military or convince the lower levels to turn on the higher levels. We then have a dictatorship for a few years and occupy the country while we implement policies that move the Overton window rightward while purging communists from the institutions. After a few years we relinquish power with an amended constitution that clarifies past amendments and places further restrictions on government power and start over like its 1789
So use your guns to takeover military bases one by one or what? Like we cut through the fence and just march in or?
Even if we forgo that ridiculous scenario and say all lower level personels already default to be on our side and wouldn't obey order from superior to kill fellow citizens and would rather shoot their general dead instead. Great so now citizens and military grunts all with guns and tanks all gather at capitol and clear out Congress, retire the president this afternoon.
Okay so the ruling class, Pelosi and her ilk basically all quit and don't show up for work ever again after today. You guys will then do what exactly? Who knows how to run a country next Monday? Who drafts the amendment and do rest of the country get to have an opinion? I'm guessing no since it's a temporary dictatorship. Then when you all voluntarily step down few years later do Pelosi come back as Speaker or we elect new people?
we run the govt the way we want. leave out all the commie and socialist crap and model it with the Bible on top of everything. Revert back to Common Law
There's plenty of current and former elected officials that are capable and willing to run the country and implement the changes we want. It will be a soft dictatorship where freedoms like speech religion and right to bear arms are mostly respected but left wing activities will be scrutinized and inhibited if it looks like they're planning a counter-revolution
After the Overton window has been moved back and this country is on a better path then we can have real elections where it doesn't matter as much who wins because the government will have it's power restricted to a point where it will never become as powerful as it is now. It will be up to armed patriots to ensure that the amended constitution is followed
Wtf are you idiots talking about?
They have mail-in ballots
Let's clarify this. Who steals elections again? Not just Democrats, but also Republicans we don't like? Why not just say - everyone is terrible but me. Just like the commie faggots on Reddit do. Swell.
dominion goes to the highest bidder in every election. im not sure wtf you just said.
What I just said was: You sound like a victim - a fucking weak crying faggot. Any time you lose, you scream and cry about how unfair it is. Regardless of who is on the other side. YOU SOUND LIKE EVERY REEEEEEING COMMIE LIBERAL FAGGOT YOU MAKE FUN OF.
That's what I'm saying.
We are victims fuck face
WAAAAAAAH I'M A VICTIM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
and you sound like you got salt in your vagina. youre the dumb fucking frog sitting in hot water making fun of the other frogs who are like hey lets gtfo this isnt safe. you sound like a cunt with excuses for doing fuck all the last 2 years.
I'm not worried at all. Jeff Sessions is working on it behind the scenes. And the white hats have killed and replaced all of hollywood with stunt doubles. Right? Look it's not my fault that you're a low IQ faggot who thinks exactly like a dopey Leftist. That's for you to fix. Maybe you'll have more time when 8th grade is over.
Everyone just deport this faggot. He believes no fraud has ever happened in this country. Pathetic fed.
I was just wondering what would happen if two pro Trump candidates battled each other. Which one would steal the election?
You sound vaccinated
Nope. Pureblood. Can you handle someone disagreeing with you? Doesn't seem like it.
Damn you really are a faggot
I think deranged is a good description, and you are likely an escapee from some mental institution. Or maybe you were just kicked out - or kicked in the head one too many times. Perhaps you are just a leftist terrorist shill with nothing better to do today.
Is it incorrect?
Do you think Democrats are stealing elections?
there was a red wave, 'fortification' and fuckery stamped it out and now there needs to be accountability for the sabotage from 'leadership' as a lot of the warchest was spent fighting maga candidates
And they will change nothing. You can't take over the GOP. They lie cheat an steal just like the Democrats. They pander to get your money and votes an shit all over you again an again an again. We needed a new party after 2020 an now it might be to late.
I disagree, we take the party and then we smash it to pieces. The whole purpose of this election was to let the red wave narrative go for as long as possible, to build up massive hype and then crush it and hopefully black pill as many people as possible. They want to kill any fighting spirit that's left and then in 2024, end maga once and for all.
The GOP knows you hate McCarthy, McConnell, an Rona. 75% of the GOP just gave you McCarthy, McConnell, an Rona. You're not taking over shit. Rinos control party infrastructure. They grift to get your money an they use that money to fuck you over in the primary. If your guy wins the primary they fund your opponent in the general. Ron Paul tried for years and failed. The Teaparty tried an failed. Maga tried an failed. How many years do you think we have before America collapses to keep trying a strategy that failed for 14 years straight. You're no closer now than you were then.
There is no other way to get someone like Trump in as president if they're not on the republican ticket. If Trump were to run as an independent he wouldn't be allowed to debate anyone. We have to infiltrate the enemy... Just like we did with Twitter
If Trump formed a new party he would have 15% of the vote in polls. He'd be admitted into presidential debates. As it stands it's all pretty pointless. They fortified AZ NV GA MI an PA. Trumps odds of getting into the white house with rigged n fortified swing states is imo less than 1%
I don't think just because you have 15% you're automatically guaranteed to debate. The last time we had a third party to debate was Ross Perot and that was in the '90s
Its 15%. Ross had 20-25% support. I was rooting for him an i was like 6 lol. Ross was ahead of his time.
Historically independent parties haven't amounted to any significant victory in a major US election.
It's far easier to contrast GOP to MAGA and switch voters to a reformed MAGA GOP. This debate was already had and this was agreed on.
And you got no where. Rinos still control everything.
Im ready. Will be hell for a decade but lets get this fuckin party started. Gut the corrupt politicians and and bullshit govt agencies, and nuke the fed.
Unfortunately the power structure of the corrupt GOP might be too entrenched to simply take it over. I tended to say the same thing that "we need to take it over rather than start a new party" but I'm quickly seeing that the corruption is so rampant and power is so entrenched that it might be impossible.
Nobody said it was going to be simple to take over.
Collapse of government from egregious mismanagement and out of control corruption is most likely how the West will end.
like Ron Paul in 2008?
ron paul never had the momentum of maga, or even the third party support like ross perot did
When the GOP asks me for donations again, my response will be for them to "Drop Dead".
McTrash
McFaggot
McLuntz
Drop dead what turtle bitch will be doing before long. Can't wait
They are not wrong about the blame is on McConnell, McCarthy and McDaniel
Why are they all McSomething? McCain was also a turd nugget. Seems any modern day politician McSomething is a turd nugget.
A mcfaggot or a mcgroomer or a mctarget.
They continue to rely on the feeling that "well, at least we're not as bad as Democrats."
Good at lying and raising money though
I love when leftists say “lol trump is going to destroy the GOP” like that’s a bad thing. Just like he destroyed Hillary’s political career I hope he destroys the GOP.
Trump needs to get more involved in primaries in 2024
These evil politicians hate Middle Americans. All of them, the whole UNIPARTY
I wrote 12 letters to the GOP telling them “Not one dime”. All in the donation requests envelopes. I had to pay postage.
I informed them i am not convinced they can do the job and they should get rid of Ronna.
Not one response but I haven’t gotten any donation letters since.
Fun fact, pede: If you mail it without postage they still get it... The USPS bills them for it.
Now I know.
Wrap up a big heavy book.. tape the prepaid envelope it and send it out. They have to pay for it. An old phone book works good too.
Good idea!
Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-establishment-to-conservative-and-faith-based-voters-drop-dead/ar-AA14Ajy4?cvid=3513f01ddec24eb89ab3604e5b13adc9
Why does anyone here think that MSN has anything worth listening to? Have we suddenly forgotten the tremendous amount of gaslighting they do, or how half the shit they put out is outright fabrication? The entire article is nothing more than an attempt to convince MAGA people that they 'failed' even though the right now controls the House and Biden is a lame duck.
The GOP establishment has been screwing us over and has hated us for decades. That's no secret.
So such an article is not surprising.
Yet again, the left (The Hill?? C'mon man!!) is trying to insinuate a fracture point in rightist ranks: "conservative and faith-based voters". We've got MAGA welding our ranks, and they're trying to pretend it doesn't exist so they can go back to chipping away at our bloc. Fuck the left—they don't define our movement, WE DO.
I don't just hold them responsible, I hold them in the UTMOST CONTEMPT. Traitorous scum, seditious criminals, no different than commiecrats.
Depressed does not remotely describe my and my circle's emotions. Bunker buster the swamp.
MOABs
Classic uniparty that says fuck the voters after they get power. The dem base has the same problem when they try and get universal healthcare or roe v wade codified, Obama told them to "fuck off, you get what you get".
Conservatives are told they'll only get some investigations here and there. They can't even withhold votes on spending or the debt ceiling to get their agenda. We still have Obamacare because weak rinos decided to keep it.
It's The Hill, so it's Leftist propaganda, of course.
And one clear propaganda goal is to drive a wedge into the real-life rift in the Republican party, between the RINOs and the true Conservatives.
But the more important propaganda payload is contained Trojan Horse-style. It's designed to pass straight into the subconscious of the reader.
The way the article does that is to state the propaganda, not as a conclusion, but as an assumption -- a fact that we are all supposed to just accept as obviously true.
You can see that propaganda is a number of places, in points stated as a given:
The goal is to demoralize us, and to convince us that Trump is not the winner we believe he is.
But the fact remains, there was a huge Red Wave. The Republicans took back the House, despite massive election fraud by the Democrats. Trump's picks won, 219 out of 235. And the few high profile "wins" the Democrats managed to grab required them to cheat so big that it was a big Red Pill for all Americans.
The Left is desperate for us to think we are losing, so that we'll stop doing what we're doing.
They want us to resort to violence, so we'll lose the support of the American people.
Barring that, they want us to forget about implementing election integrity measures, like we've been doing. Honest elections is the thing that scares them the most.
The Left would rather have us panic, and switch our focus to cheating in the elections instead (you may have noticed comments and posts pushing this idea on this forum), because they can always use their unlimited money to win in a cheating contest.
If the GOP doesn’t address Democrats Election Fraud in Congress and at the Precinct level. The party is going to be dead. Nothing else matters than stopping Democrat Fraud.
If this isn't a call for term limits, then I don't know what is. But I don't see that happening. The only way I see to solve the problem is to make recalling a candidate much easier. If after one year you don't do what you promised you would do, then the people who put you in office can kick you out. This would have to done at a state level.
Recall provisions can be added to any state level election . Judges, school boards, dog catchers, etc.. And get your asses out and vote it in!
I fucking hate these cunts so much.
Uniparty always wins, run third party? Only splits votes and uniparty still wins. Heads I win tails you lose.
I can remember how I got the least bit interested in politics. I'm only here for the human spirit.
Some said they don't need voters anymore because they have dominion.
I want to add my 2 cents. They don't need voters' money anymore. They get enough from foreign donors, super PAC, big tech, lobby, corporation.
The wealth of individual donors and big techs dwarf what we can donate. FB founder spent $400m in 2020 for ballot harvesting and we only got $200m to fight with election fraud and greedy heartless backstabber RNC stole all our $200m.
They only need us as tax slaves and birth machine. They just want us to believe we have freedom. It is a show.
Them first.
Incompetent? No.
Duplicitous? Yes.
Make gallows great again!
oh The Hill is wrong. We did win. I'm not demoralized at all. Those who are demoralized are paying too much attention to what establishment wants us to think.
Yes we did win. Nancy pissflapski is no longer speaker!!
And 10 people who voted to impeach Trump are gone.
Why not come up with a letter letting the R's in power knows that if they don't ditch these cucks in power than we will vote left next election.
Let's be honest, could it get worse any faster than it is?
Democrats are the only reason anyone should vote for Republicans... but if they don't even oppose democrats than there is no longer any reason to even vote for Republicans
Their garbage. The three mentioned are not worthy of their position.
Never forget that "The Hill" is mostly a left-leaning RAG.
Well...good. I'm not interested in religious leadership. I'm interested in economic and border security.
Why people need to shove religion down peoples throats, just like gay people and vegans won't shut the fuck up about their lives, I'll never know. But god damn they've got to learn they aren't the center of the universe.
The issue I have now as much as I hate the McFailures I dont want to see this turn into a pissing match for the next 2 years, so we go into 2024 divided.
That was the thinking 3 weeks ago. Bannon had a good analogy when he commented on why he had Ronna McRomney on his show a week before the election.... something to the effect of 'you argue in the parking lot, you go inside to the wedding together, then you argue at the dinner'.
Well, I'm at the dinner and I'm already pissed she rented a Prius, packed a suit I don't like, took my Trump wine out of the trunk, but now I find out the bitch pre-ordered me the vegan option. These 3 people did all they could to LOSE.
These assholes ran ads against MAGA GOP candidates in the primaries, pulled funding for the candidates that made it anyways, Ran ads against GOP candidates in the general, blamed Trump when those candidates lost, and rewarded themselves with continued leadership. The GOP establishment HATES YOU.
The browns