Elections are a state matter. They cheated to get into power in swing states an changed all the voting laws to remove all safe guards. They are playing for keeps. Now you cant change election laws cuz you'll never win in swing states again. Its over. You arent going to win the senate or presidency again. We secede or they pick off states one at a time till only a few are left standing. Republicans were trying to get favorable media coverage while they were fighting a war without shots fired. They planned to get smoked in 2020 an secede. So they rigged the election an they're picking off states one by one instead. Honestly it was brillant. Everyone knows the US is going to breakup. Now we have to secede but they stole AZ NV GA MI an PA an all their GDP.
Last I checked, only Floridas results reflected the polling data for the red wave. Everywhere else there was some shenanigans, voter fraud, and the red wave “disappeared”. That’s not very promising even in a “secession” scenario.
I somewhat disagree here. Just play their game. The republicans in California started ballot harvesting and did decent in 2022 (picked up unexpected seats). If they pick up their game they can compete.
While I agree it’s difficult, it’s not unwinable. Just play their game, but better.
go to low information areas, and harvest ballots (most swing states this is legal now)
keep pushing the base to vote on Election Day
focus on Latinos as a voter group
the dims won’t be able to compete. By losing the low info voters, they’re fucked. Just point to the gas prices and say “we will lower your gas prices”. Everyone on the planet knows that’s a socialist / dem thing to switch to “green energy”. It’s an easy pitch if you get out there.
How do you explain over 100% turnout in certain counties in 2020 except by using other methods than just voting? The sooner we learn they won’t let us have a fair election, the sooner we can get to demanding proper election reform.
How does one even begin to play a game in which the house always wins? It’s their table, their chips, their cards, and you’re just an outsider trying to beat them at their own game.
We need more Trojan horses, less talking heads, if we hope to win the game and not get kicked out and banned from participating.
Let’s be honest: a man with as much wealth, patience, determination, and influence as Trump is having a really hard time flipping a few tables (some could argue he hasn’t flipped any, but I’d argue he has flipped over some if TDS, 3 impeachments, and “mean tweets” is any indication).
Somehow you expect me to magically have the money, resources, manpower, and influence to just “flip a switch” and make things work properly. If Trump alone can’t do it, maybe we need to start crowd-sourcing, but I get it:
you don’t want to do anything until you see something else happen, I’m in the same boat. We’re all in the same boat. I’ve been involved locally, donated directly to candidates who shared the America First agenda. And have been disappointed at the RINOs taking the lead in my local elections as well, with coordination with establishment democrats.
At this point, we’ve all seen what happened to our supposed “red wave”, and we know the election system hasn’t been fixed in any meaningful way. I’m not resorting to committing any comments [online] until I see more action from the collective. I would be setting myself up for an “entrapment” to post anything online besides hoping for the best and preparing for the worst.
This is a correct metaphor for the situation. You can't "pLaY tHeIr gAmE!!!!" They control everything. You can't out-cheat them when you are always playing their system. The only way to "beat" a dean of cheaters would be like Zatoichi in the yakuza house. Until people realize this, nothing will change.
Exactly, it's not like their election cheating is a grass roots thing. Their operation requires the coordinated buy-in of those in power. Without controling those who count the votes, you can't play their game.
It's the same problem with people who want you to go toe to toe with Antifa. It's not a symetric fight. Antifa is not the problem, it's the cops backing up Antifa that are the problem, and they're loyal to their pensions which are controlled by the Dems.
Start thinking asymetrically, you can't use your enemies tactics against them, you need to do something else.
Which ones are you citing? Cause most of those were bad data, sorry to say. I know one used primary registration against actual election numbers and bad data like that got Guiliani laughed out of several courts. That was a distraction (not sure if manipulated into it or not) to defer from real tactics. Ballot harvesting was a huge one. Because a real vote gotten under iffy circumstances is much better then a fake vote, since any audit will turn up a ballot made by a real person, and if you track down said person they will confirm they voted as the ballot said. We wasted time looking for bamboo paper when the real trick was done before that ballot even made it to the voting center.
If that was the case, they wouldn’t have any reason to oppose a ballot audit. Looking at Arizonas 2020 audit, there was a ton of interference and feet dragging on just obtaining the ballots, then obtaining the machines, and then obtaining router logs to said machines. If it were just ballot harvesting, none of the prior things would have been a problem.
You assume that they don't have an ideological obsession with opposing anything we support. You'd be wrong. For most of the left, the ones not partaking in the theft of elections, they will oppose ballot audits simply because we support them. That's all the reason they need.
You might have been right for most of the time, but they certainly didn’t oppose the “release the kraken”, “military is going to intervene in the 2020 election”, or “QAnon” movement, in fact, they welcomed it because those things made us look ridiculous and they knew it.
As a matter of fact, it’s the very reason they didn’t take Trump seriously at all through most of 2016, even supporting him because they thought he was going to lose to Clinton. All the polls assumed Clinton would win, and even Establishment Republicans like Ben Shapiro was assuming Trump was going to lose that night.
That’s the thing, you can’t just assume they’re going to oppose something because the other side supports them. If the Democrats knew the audit would vindicate then, they would have cooperated and you know it.
As soon as we start playing their game and have success they will just change the rules again. They already break the laws that are on the books and our side does nothing. We have to accept the fact that we have a useless political party and the people who are currently in charge are part of their plan. We need to clean house and anyone that is not being aggressively attacked by the media is a shill. We don’t need anyone who is willing to compromise with the enemy on any level and know if someone from our party sides with the democrats it means they really are one. We cant go to battle when we have traitors in our ranks. And yes, democrats think we are the enemy so it is time we start treating them as such.
Well, we have to differentiate between desperate attacks and “strawmen”. Calling Bush a “N-zi” in the early to mid-2000s is an example of a establishment straw man, impeaching Trump 3 times in four years (2 times more than 2 other presidents and 3 times more than 42 of them) is an example of a desperate attack.
We can’t let ourselves be fooled that all negative media attention are equal to all Republicans.
Here’s the thing. If we don’t vote, they don’t have to cheat. If they don’t cheat (and they won’t once they see the count legit works out for them) they have an audit proof election. You keep claiming cheating then they’ll probably spring for the audit themselves and again, will get somebody who’s actually got integrity. Said person then has no choice but to say the truth: election wasn’t fixed. And now you have no chance to do anything, the masses think poorly of people who contest probably legitimate elections. And yes, optics matter. Lot of people here waiting for a rise up that won’t happen cause you don’t get a massive rise up when people think “I mean my vote was counted, it was a fair election, did these fuckers calling for action EVEN VOTE?!? Yeah screw their plan.”
Exactly my point. I will deny them the ability to use my vote for fraud if I vote, and if they do use my vote for fraud then I have legal standing to go after them.
Don’t let them win without having to cheat every election, and eventually enough people will start to see through it while we collect the evidence. If we don’t have the money and influence like Trump, the next best thing is having numbers on our side.
I didn’t want to imply a literal fight, in case some glowie was reading my comment. However, my fight in me is ready for whatever it takes to see a new America First Party rise like a Phoenix out of the old order.
I think we all are waiting for some signal to move, and maybe it might be the 2024 primary results, maybe it might be the general election. Maybe it might even be before that or after. We can only prepare for our calling when the time comes, the hour and place of which we know not.
Kari Lake needs to get a few hundred supporters to take action and glue themselves to the entrances of that building -- doors, doorknobs, handrails, stairs...everywhere.
How does secession legally work? Is this the same thing as Confederate of States? If so, we need 26 states to sign on to COS & only have 19 - plus if we keep losing at the state level (due to their theft) - we will never get to that 26 number.
I think it starts out with states like Florida (and Arizona if Lake wins) where you already have competent leaders implementing it. Then you compare data from these states with other states or data from that same state vs data from previous years and massive irregularities begin to appear until it becomes too apparent to ignore. Something along those lines.
True but we need to demand reform. I'm not sure how effective making calls and writing letters will be since all that was done in 2020 and the RINOs ignored us. We need data - undeniable proof. Give the RINOs something to work with. Empower them.
They’ve already picked their lot, and it’s not with us. They’re allowing the cheat to happen as long as we continue to field competitive candidates that outshine their establishment puppets. I really hope Lake wins, but she’s going to be a one-woman army against a fortified swamp, and I have the feeling she won’t get much done because they won’t work with her, just like how half of Trumps admin was backstabbing Trump by leaking stuff, sabotaging directives, or simply refusing to follow orders.
Look how effective Matt Walsh has been in getting republican leaders to do his bidding in creating laws to fight the tranny agenda. I really think the key is to empower our reps to take action like he has done. You have guys like Josh Hawley trying to pass laws to make insider trading in congress illegal. Remove all the things that keep RINOs satisfied with the status quo. Its a big mess to clean up but we have to start somewhere.
You’re comparing “apples” to “orange man”. Matt Walsh is establishment. Remember, Trump couldn’t get his Republican Congressional Majority to vote for 5 Billion dollars for a Mexico border wall the whole two years until Jan 2019 (and resorted to rebalancing his budget to scrap together money for a wall) but when it came to Ukraine, they happily voted for $100 Billion+ in 9 months.
Yeah, Matt Walsh got a some lawmakers to pass mostly superficial bills, and he got more lawmakers to pander to their electorate by forwarding bills to the floor for “debate” and nothing else, but it feels like cheap wins. The Democrats like to be able to campaign on “suppressed rights”, and the Republicans can pander to their base with mostly meaningless laws that are all bark and no bite. Don’t ask Republicans to actually pass bills with teeth, or else they’ll deflect by saying the “government shouldn’t have to write more laws, we want a small government not a big one”, which is gaslighting for “we will pass laws that only have rhetorical significance but doesn’t move the needle on cultural issues our constitutions care about.” Whatever happened to all those bathroom bills we were ferociously debating in 2014/2015? What about traditional marriage? What about ending our spiraling national debt? Those are all issues that have been abandoned by the Republican Party at some point.
Please realize that they are using hope against you. Just like the Q LARP. If you keep believing there is some plan to save America, it buys them time to gain more control before the people fully wake up and revolt.
Someone ought to hack the Dominion Machines. We already know those machines have Wi-Fi connections, give them a taste of their own medicine. Make the results so impossible that a 3rd party audit has to happen, or just steal the other way.
Would that have worked in Arizona, where they simply stopped counting so that they could manufacture enough votes to win? The Republicans won the midterm popular vote for the first time: getting enough votes is not the problem.
We have to make it painful for them to cheat. When we catch them, the justice system is willing to look the other way, so we have to find another way to make them uncomfortable. Non violently of course.
Irregularity isn’t enough, we’ve seen that time and again. The bitch about statistical improbability is that it’s still possible. One in a million does mean it will happen once in a million times. What you need are statistical impossibilities, and they are smarter than that when it comes to not making those.
From an outsider's perspective (from Australia), I agree. Forget about Kanye, forget about twixter, no one should be caring about that over your rigged election system.
Sad. The only thing at this stage to work is for citizens to rise up & force a change... unless Kari's attorneys can get a judge's ear & have him/her force the certification to be stayed until Kari's complaints are addressed. The Democrats could easily get that. I don't know if Kari's lawyers even tried.
Should have done something in 2018 when they stole those midterms. Then we got completely shafted in the general election, nobody did anything. Now we just lost three states and a ton of seats during a "red wave" from the same cheating that goes unchecked. We aren't voting our way out of this mess.
It’s imbecilic for Trump to announce his candidacy again in the midst of ongoing Fraud and not have a pointed and specific message to address these Democrat demons that stole his 2020 win too.
Trump really had only two options: give up or “die” fighting. Even if you wanted to argue that this is Trumps last stand at the Alamo, at least he’s willing to go out guns blazing. Maybe we can learn a thing or two from that, rather than knock it.
Don't hold your breath Kari, ain't nobody going to do nothing. The new conservative movement is the same as the old conservative movement, lose with dignity, slowly move left, ever leftward, moving left at the conservative pace.
For sure, diversity too. If you can't fix it, feature it. The pedophilic, Hispanic, communist country of the future will be acceptable to future conservatives. The 2nd amendment will be restricted to 2 shot capacity 22 pocket pistols.
There’s no Voting your way out of this. There’s no cheating your way out of this they’re better at it. They are organized well financed(with our money and a bottomless supply) and vertically structured. They are in every strata of government, every branch. Thus far they’ve kept the farce that we live in a Republic, now they’re doing it right in your face. Do you think they’ve not war gamed all scenarios and are prepared for it. Look what just happened in Arizona, all the planning, work to get out the vote and all they had to do was throw gunk into the physical voting machines, that’s seriously evil genius.
I say let’s exhaust all legal peaceful avenues and when that fails then this a possible road map https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
Kari, was going to help you but you said remain calm you had this shit. Thanks, now go get them. Try throwing that sweet puss you have everybody on here wanted at them. Thanks again. You win
Never forgive, never forget. If the RINOs think that we’ll forget what they did and and just allow them back into power, they got another thing coming. They’re going to have to cheat their way for the rest of their miserable lives if they hope to have any power moving forward, and it’s going to get exposed more and more every time they cheat.
I think some people can’t wrap their heads around the fact that it’s this corrupt. Others prefer to stick their heads in the sand rather than face the music.
Hard to do anything about it when the seeds.of fraud were all sewn.years ago.
Think about it, they had Hobbs and Blogdovich or whatever that worthless nunchukas AG in place before they attempted major fraud knowing they had to have those two pawns for it to work.
Now that Blogdovich is unelectable anywhere they are replacing him with a Dem AG to make the fraud permanent.
Arizona is fucked and the GOP is doing nothing about it.
Notice when a race is important to the Dems they send their best attack dogs and lawyers like Elias. What has the GOP done? Fucking nothing. Lake is using volunteer attorneys......the GOP is giving states away on purpose.
This is happening all over the country - not just AZ. The RNC/GOP knows damn well what is going on & is INTENTIONALLY sitting on their hands & allowing this to happen.
She needs to press on the absolute Truth: Katie Hobbs deliberately, knowingly, intentionally, ordered the sabotage of fully 50% of all the polling places on election day. Outright name and accuse her.
Spineless conservatives. You knew the game plan, you knew what was going to happen, you did nothing. The scoreboard is the only thing that matters in the end. Crying about it makes you look pathetic.
Secession is the only viable path forward. We have a year and a half to strategize a path forward. Believe it or not, we have the numbers because millions refuse to vote. This is the base that wants something better than the UniParty in office. Libertarians, Classical liberals, Anarchists and Patriots and Conservatives can unite to leave the Union.
As you people make memes, progressives move to swing states to turn them. It was a winning strategy on top of cheating. You will never have those states again. So our move must be a checkmate!
No one is asking you to take up muskets, you are called to do what the fuck your founding fathers told you to do. You are being called to abolish and dissolve the government that no longer represents or works for you. Trump has no path to victory in 2024.
The policies republicans have to run on should only include defeating global governance, getting ahead of digital currency system and the IRS and getting your energy dependence back. There is literally nothing else more important than getting ahead of Communism.
You have no common unity with half of the country, what the hell are you waiting for? A pandemic could not even unite you.
The presidency, Senate and House are lost to time. Face it, you never thought your government would steal your voice, erase your women and fuck your kids…If you’re not careful, white skin will be ethnically cleansed.
Kari Lake lost Arizona because she was naive. She went in like a lion and lost. In the end, she is still needed on our side. She has to understand the stakes and accept that there is no saving America, there is only secession.
Texas has planned a 2023 secession. If other states join, your combined GDPs will be in the trillions and your children’s children will not be in debt Washington DC keeps putting them in. You have maybe 3 million active duty soldiers, under 1 million work in intelligence. If you still think you can’t secede and form your own militaries knowing how few soldiers are in active duty, you are the problem.
The time to move with oneness is NOW!!! The New California movement on Twitter and Unite2Divide on Twitter are baby movements that watch Texas and want to model their moves so other states may follow. Jasmyne Contours on IG is the only secessionist/maga conservative researching this stuff for everyone who refuses to look at your own state constitutions.
Secede or not!!
We have now moved onto foot stomping over the election
The left was never going to play fair in 2022. The legal route was never going to work. You can have all of the facts together and the best legal team in the world, but a leftist adjacent judge or DA will spike your case faster than China can drop social credit scores.
Katie Hobbs took money from FTX the worst FRAUD in history.
Hobbs is taking the governor office thru FRAUD and no one in the Media will report on it or do anything about it.
Katie Hobbs should end this NOW.
We will descend into a cold war, the lefties will try to make everyone go back to sleep as they turn the slow boil off , they will then try to convince conservatives to just accept the new " normal " .the cold civil war needs to escalate
Anyone in these states with terrible bad fraud issues who isn’t flooding poll worker positions and precinct captain positions with friendlies isn’t getting the point.
Doesn't make a difference. We had plenty of patriots in my blue state rise up & man the polls. But the RNC in the state didn't engage in Get out the vote or put any money behind the candidates. The whole system is rigged & the RNC is in on it.
Lost a lot of faith in her over the last couple of weeks. She's no different than any other republican - big on words, small on action. We and everyone knew what would happen, it happened. She did NOTHING before that...now she's just building her brand as a fighter, when she's no more of a fighter than Ted Cruz.
America already is remembere the 2020 steal nothing will change untill the people decides too take matters in our own hands nobody is coming too rescue any of us we’re on our own
She is 100% right and I've been saying it since 2018. Election reform should be our one and only focus.
Elections are a state matter. They cheated to get into power in swing states an changed all the voting laws to remove all safe guards. They are playing for keeps. Now you cant change election laws cuz you'll never win in swing states again. Its over. You arent going to win the senate or presidency again. We secede or they pick off states one at a time till only a few are left standing. Republicans were trying to get favorable media coverage while they were fighting a war without shots fired. They planned to get smoked in 2020 an secede. So they rigged the election an they're picking off states one by one instead. Honestly it was brillant. Everyone knows the US is going to breakup. Now we have to secede but they stole AZ NV GA MI an PA an all their GDP.
This is exactly right ^ Once they’ve stolen a state they fortify it so that state has cheat backdoors forever built in
Last I checked, only Floridas results reflected the polling data for the red wave. Everywhere else there was some shenanigans, voter fraud, and the red wave “disappeared”. That’s not very promising even in a “secession” scenario.
I somewhat disagree here. Just play their game. The republicans in California started ballot harvesting and did decent in 2022 (picked up unexpected seats). If they pick up their game they can compete.
While I agree it’s difficult, it’s not unwinable. Just play their game, but better.
the dims won’t be able to compete. By losing the low info voters, they’re fucked. Just point to the gas prices and say “we will lower your gas prices”. Everyone on the planet knows that’s a socialist / dem thing to switch to “green energy”. It’s an easy pitch if you get out there.
How do you explain over 100% turnout in certain counties in 2020 except by using other methods than just voting? The sooner we learn they won’t let us have a fair election, the sooner we can get to demanding proper election reform.
I agree you need to demand election reform. That said, you have to play the game to get the power to enact change
How does one even begin to play a game in which the house always wins? It’s their table, their chips, their cards, and you’re just an outsider trying to beat them at their own game.
We need more Trojan horses, less talking heads, if we hope to win the game and not get kicked out and banned from participating.
Well, you flip over the table.
Let’s be honest: a man with as much wealth, patience, determination, and influence as Trump is having a really hard time flipping a few tables (some could argue he hasn’t flipped any, but I’d argue he has flipped over some if TDS, 3 impeachments, and “mean tweets” is any indication).
Somehow you expect me to magically have the money, resources, manpower, and influence to just “flip a switch” and make things work properly. If Trump alone can’t do it, maybe we need to start crowd-sourcing, but I get it:
you don’t want to do anything until you see something else happen, I’m in the same boat. We’re all in the same boat. I’ve been involved locally, donated directly to candidates who shared the America First agenda. And have been disappointed at the RINOs taking the lead in my local elections as well, with coordination with establishment democrats.
At this point, we’ve all seen what happened to our supposed “red wave”, and we know the election system hasn’t been fixed in any meaningful way. I’m not resorting to committing any comments [online] until I see more action from the collective. I would be setting myself up for an “entrapment” to post anything online besides hoping for the best and preparing for the worst.
This is a correct metaphor for the situation. You can't "pLaY tHeIr gAmE!!!!" They control everything. You can't out-cheat them when you are always playing their system. The only way to "beat" a dean of cheaters would be like Zatoichi in the yakuza house. Until people realize this, nothing will change.
Exactly, it's not like their election cheating is a grass roots thing. Their operation requires the coordinated buy-in of those in power. Without controling those who count the votes, you can't play their game.
It's the same problem with people who want you to go toe to toe with Antifa. It's not a symetric fight. Antifa is not the problem, it's the cops backing up Antifa that are the problem, and they're loyal to their pensions which are controlled by the Dems.
Start thinking asymetrically, you can't use your enemies tactics against them, you need to do something else.
Except when we (MAGA Republicans) stuff the ballots it would then suddenly become illegal!!! Just watch!
Problem solved, which is still my point
Which ones are you citing? Cause most of those were bad data, sorry to say. I know one used primary registration against actual election numbers and bad data like that got Guiliani laughed out of several courts. That was a distraction (not sure if manipulated into it or not) to defer from real tactics. Ballot harvesting was a huge one. Because a real vote gotten under iffy circumstances is much better then a fake vote, since any audit will turn up a ballot made by a real person, and if you track down said person they will confirm they voted as the ballot said. We wasted time looking for bamboo paper when the real trick was done before that ballot even made it to the voting center.
If that was the case, they wouldn’t have any reason to oppose a ballot audit. Looking at Arizonas 2020 audit, there was a ton of interference and feet dragging on just obtaining the ballots, then obtaining the machines, and then obtaining router logs to said machines. If it were just ballot harvesting, none of the prior things would have been a problem.
You assume that they don't have an ideological obsession with opposing anything we support. You'd be wrong. For most of the left, the ones not partaking in the theft of elections, they will oppose ballot audits simply because we support them. That's all the reason they need.
You might have been right for most of the time, but they certainly didn’t oppose the “release the kraken”, “military is going to intervene in the 2020 election”, or “QAnon” movement, in fact, they welcomed it because those things made us look ridiculous and they knew it.
As a matter of fact, it’s the very reason they didn’t take Trump seriously at all through most of 2016, even supporting him because they thought he was going to lose to Clinton. All the polls assumed Clinton would win, and even Establishment Republicans like Ben Shapiro was assuming Trump was going to lose that night.
That’s the thing, you can’t just assume they’re going to oppose something because the other side supports them. If the Democrats knew the audit would vindicate then, they would have cooperated and you know it.
As soon as we start playing their game and have success they will just change the rules again. They already break the laws that are on the books and our side does nothing. We have to accept the fact that we have a useless political party and the people who are currently in charge are part of their plan. We need to clean house and anyone that is not being aggressively attacked by the media is a shill. We don’t need anyone who is willing to compromise with the enemy on any level and know if someone from our party sides with the democrats it means they really are one. We cant go to battle when we have traitors in our ranks. And yes, democrats think we are the enemy so it is time we start treating them as such.
Correct in pointing out that cheating by our side will not work.
Well, we have to differentiate between desperate attacks and “strawmen”. Calling Bush a “N-zi” in the early to mid-2000s is an example of a establishment straw man, impeaching Trump 3 times in four years (2 times more than 2 other presidents and 3 times more than 42 of them) is an example of a desperate attack.
We can’t let ourselves be fooled that all negative media attention are equal to all Republicans.
Here’s the thing. If we don’t vote, they don’t have to cheat. If they don’t cheat (and they won’t once they see the count legit works out for them) they have an audit proof election. You keep claiming cheating then they’ll probably spring for the audit themselves and again, will get somebody who’s actually got integrity. Said person then has no choice but to say the truth: election wasn’t fixed. And now you have no chance to do anything, the masses think poorly of people who contest probably legitimate elections. And yes, optics matter. Lot of people here waiting for a rise up that won’t happen cause you don’t get a massive rise up when people think “I mean my vote was counted, it was a fair election, did these fuckers calling for action EVEN VOTE?!? Yeah screw their plan.”
My goal is to make sure they have to cheat in order to win from here on out. If the swamp rats are winning fair and square, that’s OUR problem.
And if we don’t vote, it will be.
Exactly my point. I will deny them the ability to use my vote for fraud if I vote, and if they do use my vote for fraud then I have legal standing to go after them.
Don’t let them win without having to cheat every election, and eventually enough people will start to see through it while we collect the evidence. If we don’t have the money and influence like Trump, the next best thing is having numbers on our side.
To be clear, you’re suggesting we cheat even more than they do, to win?
That won’t actually work.
Well, it either “fight” for the Republic today or lose it all to a Great Reset tomorrow, what’s your choice?
Fight can have many connotations, hence your quotes.
Agreed that we the people must take action.
What that actually entails remains to be seen.
I didn’t want to imply a literal fight, in case some glowie was reading my comment. However, my fight in me is ready for whatever it takes to see a new America First Party rise like a Phoenix out of the old order.
I think we all are waiting for some signal to move, and maybe it might be the 2024 primary results, maybe it might be the general election. Maybe it might even be before that or after. We can only prepare for our calling when the time comes, the hour and place of which we know not.
It’s legal to ballot harvest. And yes, I’m suggesting we make it so ridiculous it stops.
The alternative is you and your family are shot on the street, with all your belongings taken from you by the people you’ll try to rise up against.
Ballots mean little when the counter discards (or adjudicates) them.
You’re right that liberty is not free though.
Kari Lake needs to get a few hundred supporters to take action and glue themselves to the entrances of that building -- doors, doorknobs, handrails, stairs...everywhere.
How does secession legally work? Is this the same thing as Confederate of States? If so, we need 26 states to sign on to COS & only have 19 - plus if we keep losing at the state level (due to their theft) - we will never get to that 26 number.
I think it starts out with states like Florida (and Arizona if Lake wins) where you already have competent leaders implementing it. Then you compare data from these states with other states or data from that same state vs data from previous years and massive irregularities begin to appear until it becomes too apparent to ignore. Something along those lines.
lake did win
If lake fights to the end, you mean
True but we need to demand reform. I'm not sure how effective making calls and writing letters will be since all that was done in 2020 and the RINOs ignored us. We need data - undeniable proof. Give the RINOs something to work with. Empower them.
They’ve already picked their lot, and it’s not with us. They’re allowing the cheat to happen as long as we continue to field competitive candidates that outshine their establishment puppets. I really hope Lake wins, but she’s going to be a one-woman army against a fortified swamp, and I have the feeling she won’t get much done because they won’t work with her, just like how half of Trumps admin was backstabbing Trump by leaking stuff, sabotaging directives, or simply refusing to follow orders.
Look how effective Matt Walsh has been in getting republican leaders to do his bidding in creating laws to fight the tranny agenda. I really think the key is to empower our reps to take action like he has done. You have guys like Josh Hawley trying to pass laws to make insider trading in congress illegal. Remove all the things that keep RINOs satisfied with the status quo. Its a big mess to clean up but we have to start somewhere.
You’re comparing “apples” to “orange man”. Matt Walsh is establishment. Remember, Trump couldn’t get his Republican Congressional Majority to vote for 5 Billion dollars for a Mexico border wall the whole two years until Jan 2019 (and resorted to rebalancing his budget to scrap together money for a wall) but when it came to Ukraine, they happily voted for $100 Billion+ in 9 months.
Yeah, Matt Walsh got a some lawmakers to pass mostly superficial bills, and he got more lawmakers to pander to their electorate by forwarding bills to the floor for “debate” and nothing else, but it feels like cheap wins. The Democrats like to be able to campaign on “suppressed rights”, and the Republicans can pander to their base with mostly meaningless laws that are all bark and no bite. Don’t ask Republicans to actually pass bills with teeth, or else they’ll deflect by saying the “government shouldn’t have to write more laws, we want a small government not a big one”, which is gaslighting for “we will pass laws that only have rhetorical significance but doesn’t move the needle on cultural issues our constitutions care about.” Whatever happened to all those bathroom bills we were ferociously debating in 2014/2015? What about traditional marriage? What about ending our spiraling national debt? Those are all issues that have been abandoned by the Republican Party at some point.
Red states need to consolidate and do what the blue states did. Fortify the lines now! Civil war to restore elections is just.
Ill take hopefully deluded over hopelessly demoralized
You mean accept reality?
Please realize that they are using hope against you. Just like the Q LARP. If you keep believing there is some plan to save America, it buys them time to gain more control before the people fully wake up and revolt.
Or you ballot harvest into power to ban ballot harvesting
Someone ought to hack the Dominion Machines. We already know those machines have Wi-Fi connections, give them a taste of their own medicine. Make the results so impossible that a 3rd party audit has to happen, or just steal the other way.
yeah! like in the movies huh? great idea. let me just whip out my hacking machine
I have a laptop. And I've seen Hackers. We're all set.
It's very hard to hack something you don't know the IP of or any internal details of. Human hacking is far easier
Would that have worked in Arizona, where they simply stopped counting so that they could manufacture enough votes to win? The Republicans won the midterm popular vote for the first time: getting enough votes is not the problem.
We have to make it painful for them to cheat. When we catch them, the justice system is willing to look the other way, so we have to find another way to make them uncomfortable. Non violently of course.
Would work better than complaining online.
Irregularity isn’t enough, we’ve seen that time and again. The bitch about statistical improbability is that it’s still possible. One in a million does mean it will happen once in a million times. What you need are statistical impossibilities, and they are smarter than that when it comes to not making those.
"No Standing!"
-The USELESS SCOTUS who are christening America's voyage into the abyss.
From an outsider's perspective (from Australia), I agree. Forget about Kanye, forget about twixter, no one should be caring about that over your rigged election system.
But how to do it when the people who don't want electoral reform control the elections?
Sad. The only thing at this stage to work is for citizens to rise up & force a change... unless Kari's attorneys can get a judge's ear & have him/her force the certification to be stayed until Kari's complaints are addressed. The Democrats could easily get that. I don't know if Kari's lawyers even tried.
I hate you for agreeing with you
Not a single lawman in the land of earp.
The one time where I might have been okay with it if Kari had hired Democrat lawyers to do what they would have done if the parties were reversed.
When the system is no longer fair and balanced, it might be time to stop trusting it so much.
Too late
Hard to have standing before you lose. That's why its still working. Black pills come later...
WUT. you mean the day before it is all certified is to late?
Yeah, My favorite part was when they changed the time to meet for certification to happen BEFORE they were court ordered to hand over all records.
But hey, Let's just keep voting because it's not like it's changed anything.
does she have standing yet?
No, no it;s not. Coward!
Imagine thinking you can vote away pedophiles and war hawks.
And communists.
I already said pedophiles.
Should have done something in 2018 when they stole those midterms. Then we got completely shafted in the general election, nobody did anything. Now we just lost three states and a ton of seats during a "red wave" from the same cheating that goes unchecked. We aren't voting our way out of this mess.
The uniparty has been increasing their cheat skill with every election. We’re about one election behind with keeping up.
It’s imbecilic for Trump to announce his candidacy again in the midst of ongoing Fraud and not have a pointed and specific message to address these Democrat demons that stole his 2020 win too.
It's almost as if we're all being lulled into a trance, before being ritualistically sacrificed on the alter of the NWO.
Almost.
Trump really had only two options: give up or “die” fighting. Even if you wanted to argue that this is Trumps last stand at the Alamo, at least he’s willing to go out guns blazing. Maybe we can learn a thing or two from that, rather than knock it.
I think a strongly worded letter will be enough.
Crazy talk! Think of the optics! How about we settle for a cautious tweet instead?
Tweet???? No. We should only be posting out red pill blog posts on Truth Social for maximum echo.
Don't hold your breath Kari, ain't nobody going to do nothing. The new conservative movement is the same as the old conservative movement, lose with dignity, slowly move left, ever leftward, moving left at the conservative pace.
GOP ad, circa 2030
For sure, diversity too. If you can't fix it, feature it. The pedophilic, Hispanic, communist country of the future will be acceptable to future conservatives. The 2nd amendment will be restricted to 2 shot capacity 22 pocket pistols.
There’s no Voting your way out of this. There’s no cheating your way out of this they’re better at it. They are organized well financed(with our money and a bottomless supply) and vertically structured. They are in every strata of government, every branch. Thus far they’ve kept the farce that we live in a Republic, now they’re doing it right in your face. Do you think they’ve not war gamed all scenarios and are prepared for it. Look what just happened in Arizona, all the planning, work to get out the vote and all they had to do was throw gunk into the physical voting machines, that’s seriously evil genius. I say let’s exhaust all legal peaceful avenues and when that fails then this a possible road map https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)
They're trying to genocide most of the planet. They don't even consider our opinions.
Do you consider the opinions of pests before you exterminate them?
Kari, was going to help you but you said remain calm you had this shit. Thanks, now go get them. Try throwing that sweet puss you have everybody on here wanted at them. Thanks again. You win
Best and brightest legal team watching everything on election day, rest assured.
Keep your wine cold. 😎
Came here to make sure someone pointed this out.
Those who put faith in others are often disappointed.
refuse to do anything. The second amendment has a purpose.
Never forgive, never forget. If the RINOs think that we’ll forget what they did and and just allow them back into power, they got another thing coming. They’re going to have to cheat their way for the rest of their miserable lives if they hope to have any power moving forward, and it’s going to get exposed more and more every time they cheat.
I think some people can’t wrap their heads around the fact that it’s this corrupt. Others prefer to stick their heads in the sand rather than face the music.
Trump’s part of it too I think
Sadly he isnt the leader we need anymore. Good peacetime leader, but now we are at war. It may be a cold war, but its still war.
Hard to do anything about it when the seeds.of fraud were all sewn.years ago.
Think about it, they had Hobbs and Blogdovich or whatever that worthless nunchukas AG in place before they attempted major fraud knowing they had to have those two pawns for it to work.
Now that Blogdovich is unelectable anywhere they are replacing him with a Dem AG to make the fraud permanent.
Arizona is fucked and the GOP is doing nothing about it.
Notice when a race is important to the Dems they send their best attack dogs and lawyers like Elias. What has the GOP done? Fucking nothing. Lake is using volunteer attorneys......the GOP is giving states away on purpose.
This is happening all over the country - not just AZ. The RNC/GOP knows damn well what is going on & is INTENTIONALLY sitting on their hands & allowing this to happen.
She needs to press on the absolute Truth: Katie Hobbs deliberately, knowingly, intentionally, ordered the sabotage of fully 50% of all the polling places on election day. Outright name and accuse her.
Katie is a dum dum - not sure she really is smart enough to do the sabotaging. They told her to sit back, don't debate & we will take care of it.
Is there proof for that though?
The election result
We're past the need for proof. The only thing that wins now is rhetoric and action.
Spineless conservatives. You knew the game plan, you knew what was going to happen, you did nothing. The scoreboard is the only thing that matters in the end. Crying about it makes you look pathetic.
But but but Lake said they have people watching and if they try to cheat, they would be caught and punished!!!!
Lol what a joke.
Should have seen this coming.
Secession is the only viable path forward. We have a year and a half to strategize a path forward. Believe it or not, we have the numbers because millions refuse to vote. This is the base that wants something better than the UniParty in office. Libertarians, Classical liberals, Anarchists and Patriots and Conservatives can unite to leave the Union. As you people make memes, progressives move to swing states to turn them. It was a winning strategy on top of cheating. You will never have those states again. So our move must be a checkmate! No one is asking you to take up muskets, you are called to do what the fuck your founding fathers told you to do. You are being called to abolish and dissolve the government that no longer represents or works for you. Trump has no path to victory in 2024. The policies republicans have to run on should only include defeating global governance, getting ahead of digital currency system and the IRS and getting your energy dependence back. There is literally nothing else more important than getting ahead of Communism. You have no common unity with half of the country, what the hell are you waiting for? A pandemic could not even unite you. The presidency, Senate and House are lost to time. Face it, you never thought your government would steal your voice, erase your women and fuck your kids…If you’re not careful, white skin will be ethnically cleansed. Kari Lake lost Arizona because she was naive. She went in like a lion and lost. In the end, she is still needed on our side. She has to understand the stakes and accept that there is no saving America, there is only secession. Texas has planned a 2023 secession. If other states join, your combined GDPs will be in the trillions and your children’s children will not be in debt Washington DC keeps putting them in. You have maybe 3 million active duty soldiers, under 1 million work in intelligence. If you still think you can’t secede and form your own militaries knowing how few soldiers are in active duty, you are the problem. The time to move with oneness is NOW!!! The New California movement on Twitter and Unite2Divide on Twitter are baby movements that watch Texas and want to model their moves so other states may follow. Jasmyne Contours on IG is the only secessionist/maga conservative researching this stuff for everyone who refuses to look at your own state constitutions. Secede or not!!
please explain how AZ secedes now. with a puppet governor that stole the election?
Red State Secession - Retreat / Rebuild / Reconquer
It's real America's only hope.
We need to expel all the cities and refuse all immigration from communist states.
We have now moved onto foot stomping over the election
The left was never going to play fair in 2022. The legal route was never going to work. You can have all of the facts together and the best legal team in the world, but a leftist adjacent judge or DA will spike your case faster than China can drop social credit scores.
Katie Hobbs took money from FTX the worst FRAUD in history. Hobbs is taking the governor office thru FRAUD and no one in the Media will report on it or do anything about it. Katie Hobbs should end this NOW.
We will descend into a cold war, the lefties will try to make everyone go back to sleep as they turn the slow boil off , they will then try to convince conservatives to just accept the new " normal " .the cold civil war needs to escalate
Demanding is symbolism over substance.
Communists had to cheat. They needed our covid tax money to rebuild the burned downed blue cities BLM and Antifa destroyed.
Anyone in these states with terrible bad fraud issues who isn’t flooding poll worker positions and precinct captain positions with friendlies isn’t getting the point.
Muh local party is clean but the national elections are corrupt are the people thinking it’s going to fix itself
Doesn't make a difference. We had plenty of patriots in my blue state rise up & man the polls. But the RNC in the state didn't engage in Get out the vote or put any money behind the candidates. The whole system is rigged & the RNC is in on it.
Lost a lot of faith in her over the last couple of weeks. She's no different than any other republican - big on words, small on action. We and everyone knew what would happen, it happened. She did NOTHING before that...now she's just building her brand as a fighter, when she's no more of a fighter than Ted Cruz.
No , that was in 2018 Kari.
Well none of this was surprising.
2 more weeks and none of you will do anything
wE aRe LoSiNg oUr DeMoCrAcY emphasis on 'OUR,' it's a big club and you aren't part of it
I see that she’s starting to capitalize like GEOTUS. Nice.
America already is remembere the 2020 steal nothing will change untill the people decides too take matters in our own hands nobody is coming too rescue any of us we’re on our own
By the time that this is fully understood, the 2A will be eroded down to featureless bolt actions.
Imagine following the tyrannical laws of an illegitimate government.